Galaxy Z Fold 5 one month later - SO close!
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- Опубліковано 28 чер 2024
- I’ve spent the last few weeks using the Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 5. And, yes, I’m normally an iPhone user. Does it impress me? Is it better than the Pixel Fold? I’ve discovered 6 things about the Z Fold 5 that you need to be aware of!
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CHAPTERS
00:00 - Intro
01:42 - The form factor
02:30 - Cover screen
03:59 - Internal display
05:09 - Multitasking
06:03 - Camera
08:16 - Is it the best?
Are foldable phones for you? If not... why?
Been in the Apple eco-system for years, I tried the Z fold 4, but it never became my daily mobile. Upgraded to Z fold 5 and loved it, its just lovely to hold.. Then...I tried the Google Pixel Fold, I sold the Z fold 5 and have stuck with the Pixel Fold, Is the Pixel fold perfect ? No, but it is really close. I now use it as my main mobile. With the 14 Pro Max now in a drawer.
The Pixel fold is much slower than the Samsung fold 5. All tests by other reviewers show that.
I did swap from the 12 pm to fold 4 last yr had and had that for like 7 months became too glitchy and traded it in for the 14 pm n I'm comfortable with it now. Prob wait til fold 6 or 7 that narrow display is not it😅
@@davidschalit907 pixel fold is truly 2nd rate compared to fold5.
The Google Fold has the largest bezels I've ever seen on a device and doesn't even open flat. Also has the most visible crease by a long shot. Just watched it get obliterated by the Galaxy Fold in the speed tests too. The Galazy Fold is undeniably superior
Lol, i know, absolutely no comparison.
Not to mention the overheating of the weakass Tensor chip
I mean if you consider the Microsoft Duo 2, then the Pixel fold has the second largest bezels
The fold also has screen mirror and Dex. Plug it into a dock and a TV and now you have one device that does everything and is totally mobile.
Not to mention half of googles own appps won’t scale up AT ALL, and on the Fold it does so almost consistently
Went with the Samsung Fold. BUT, I couldn't disagree with you more about the cover display. I LOVE that it is narrow and I can do everything with one hand. I'm the sort of person, which no matter what phone I have, I always end up scrunching the keyboard into the bottom corner as much as I can anyway. So this phone is perfect for me. It's perfect for doing things quickly and because of the smaller size, I don't end up wasting more time than I need to because it's too small to suck me in to something. If I want to waste time on the phone, it's because I made a conscious choice to open the big screen and spend time doing whatever. Not because my phone buzzed so I pulled it out to look at it, and then lost half an hour on social media. Samsung, if you're reading this never change it. My only complaint about the Fold is that I think it is still just a tad too thick when folded. Yes it's narrow so that helps, but it's still a huge bulge poking out of my pants!
Can't believe this guy can't type on front screen, he's kinda a boomer. 😂
After more than a decade on iOS I've converted to the Fold 5, great expereience so far. Easy to handle, love the cover screen width as its good one handed manoeuvering, good battery life, got my work done by multitasking .. positive so far. Looking forward to your next video Mark
I feel you, I moved from Apple to Android myself a few years ago because I felt Apple wasn't doing enough of a change and they still haven't all these years 🙃
I've done the same and have no regrets
I'm swapping today and I'm stoked. Going from a iPhone 12 Pro Max to Fold 5. I'm honestly kind of happy the Fold 5's outer screen is narrow as I have kinda small hands and struggled using the Pro Max with one hand.
iPhone releases have become so stale and unexciting and so is the first phone purchase in a while that I've been ecstatic for.
@@atmosphericentry0I'm doing the same upgrade. 12 pro max to Z fold 5. How is it?
@@JonCom3dy I love it! The transition from iOS to Android was a bit confusing at the beginning but now I'm completely used to the phone. I do a lot of reading so the fact it's pretty much a foldable ebook I always have on me is a huge plus. Also when I'm traveling I dont feel the need to bring a laptop or anything. Plus it just feels very premium in my hands. I was worried about the bulk but I don't even notice it. In fact, sometimes I forget it's in my pocket as it's so narrow. My only cons are I slightly prefer the iPhone cameras, and good cases are kinda hard to find (plus most of them have a one time adhesive for the front screen so you can't take them on and off). But those cons are minor to me and Samsung Care Plus was half off when I bought it so I pretty much use that as my case and have nothing on my phone.
The keyboard trick for cover screen use is the swipe feature which amazingly accurate! After starting to use the swipe feature it dramatically simplified and improved my experience
The Samsung is my pick over the Pixel. When watching a video in landscape mode, the speakers fire from left-right as it should be, not top-bottom as the Pixel does it.
How to make the narrow front screen useabke is learn to swipe type. I can do it faster than 2-thumb typing now.
Watching on my Z Fold 5 THIS PHONE IS FREAKING AWESOME
I've had the fold 5 for a month now. Complete game changer. Spreadsheets on the go on Microsoft 365, multitasking, consuming media, etc. It's a monster of productivity. There's just no going back to a slab phone, imo. I'd definitely suggest samsung's insurance, though. I've had no issues, but it eases my mind that should something break down or be damaged, I'm covered.
I'm still using the zfold 3 😊 still going strong 💪
Mark Ellis Reviews, ThanksMuch for sharing !
One of the best videos about the Z Fold 5, got mines a few days after launch. Im coming from iPhone family, and I must say I can never go back... Only thing i disagree with is the cover display, I love it with my small hands for quick use. Plus, its a cover display, not the main display.. Great video overall!
Thank you!
I've had iphones for over 10 years and grew tired of Apple and the minimal upgrades whenever a new device is released. I had the iPhone 12 Pro Max for almost 3 years and just decided enough is enough. I took the plunge and purchased the Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 5 and its hands down for me the most amazing device that I've ever owned. The skinny front display took some getting used to at first but once I got the hang of it I found this was no longer an issue. Best decision I ever made and have zero regrets
I agree, the narrow screen makes one hand use very easy. I you would make it wider the phone itself would be a lot bigger and less pocketable.
I wanted a tablet like screen for taking notes mostly and sadly samsung is the only foldable with a good stylus. They also have been doing foldables for longer so i get a better feeling of security that mine will last but thats totally just wishful thinking of course. And thats why i ended up woth the fold5 and put up with that slimmer screen. I will say the slimmer screen means you can multitask on the front screen pretty good actually, so another W there.
Admittedly, I have tiny hands, but I'm fine with typing on the cover screen. Plus like Apple the ecosystem that Samsung has makes switching from my Z Fold 5 to my giant Samsung Ultra Tab S8 seamless. But I can see why many people can't stand the narrow outside screen, that's a legit gripe for a lot, if not most people. Great and very fair and balanced review.
Great overview! One element to consider in your evaluation of the size of the cover screen: the experience would probably be much better for someone like me, a (self confessed older) female who has quite small hands. I haven't had a chance to try out the Z-fold 5 but that narrow screen is one of the reasons I am considering it! Thank you! 😊
Great input - and thanks for the kind words!
Just love the Fold, I have bought everyone, my only gripe was Fold 3 to 4, 4 felt very weak in the the day to day use, it was the 1st version that I sold on before I broke it, I am also an Apple fan & always buy the best top tier in them too, although interestingly though since Fold 5, I no longer have an uneven split of daily driver, I use both fairly equally, the only function that will always win is Apple music, it has always been my go to, with over 50,000 tracks downloaded with both phones being 1tb storage, the optimisation for iphone means I have more available memory left over than Galaxy Fold 5 has.
I'm definitely getting a foldable down the line. Just waiting for a Samsung with the right form factor -- or a pixel with the right software. Got a s23 ultra at the moment so Samsung would be best given the enhanced domestic trade in values.
thank you for your videos please tell which is better in term of sound quality sony wf-1000xm5 or nothing ear2? thank you
I have now gone from iphone to ZF5. Overall, its been a positive experience. You get used to the coverscreen, but spelling mistakes still happen.
Went with the Z fold for multitasking and ability to use pen which the Pixel can do neither. For me I think it has been the right choice. The comment you made about it fitting well in the pocket is spot on and I like it in the pocket better than my iPhone 12 pro max that I came from.
I love the form factor when it's closed. I actually returned the pixel 8 pro due to when I used the phone to scroll the phone was just way too wide. I love the narrow screen.
Great video
The outside display writing is difficult for bigger hands, for me with small hands is perfect.
Anyway, no manufacturer does software as good as Samsung does.
Cheers😊
I just got a fold 5 because it is more durable pixel fold. Yes I wish the font screen is a bit wider; but I altered the keyboard settings to make typing work
That small screen is excellent for reading (just change the font size), for using short cuts (turning on lights, shutting garrage, tv remote etc. etc.), looking at FB, X and other content. Caculator, bus passes , plane tickets ... You just have to use it yo. And here is a spoiler alert you CAN , yes You CAN write on the outside screen with your finger - try it!! So many options..
Hi Mark. Thanks for a great video as usual. Great to listen to a Brit. Looking forward to your review of the Honour V2 but like you said I think Samsung software is still the best. From the reviews I have seen so far, the phone doesn't multitask horizontally.
Thanks for the kind words!
I would be curious if the Z Fold 5 typing is better using Swype instead of trying to type on it cause it is more narrow? I use Swype for about 90% of my typing on phone, and I think that a narrower phone would make it easier for me to get around the keyboard. Might have to check it out more. I would also be curious about how you find using it within the Apple ecosystem, as in you cant really and if it has really impacted you or do you carry 2 phones like some of the other content creators
Mark, I think you a right about the Phone side, but you got to talk about the Spen little bit, I never into the foldable design but the pen does works better on the fold than old NOTE phone.
Bought a Flip3 last year to use with a business line. I liked it but did not love it, so I moved the business line to my iPhone 14 Pro Max as a second line and have kept the flip to use with wi-fi. Would love it if Apple would come out with a fold, but I can wait. The high cost of the Samsung makes the iPhone Pro models look cheap in price. I also have an iPad mini, so really little use for a fold at this stage. As for cameras, the Samsung pictures are impressive, but why not buy a separate camera for important picture taking. I have always thought of the phone cameras as nothing more than point and shoots and selfie and scanning devices.
Nice review. I prefer the smaller form factor when the phone is folded, so went for the Fold 5. Had an iPhone 12 Max, but really wanted a fold phone as being a software developer, I'm used to split/two screens.
With the online 30% discount from Samsung I could get the Fold 5 for $2k Canadian all in. And... there was also a 24 month interest free credit with Affirm. $83/month Canadian for two years. Sold.
Microsoft/Windows PC, Apple iOS iPad and now a Samsung Android phone :)
Yeah I have an ipad and windows laptop. Thinking about going from iphone 12 pro max to Z fold 5
I'm an apple fan but holding out for Honor's flip phone that they have said they are working on. If it's as thin and feature packed as the honor magic v2 foldable but in a flip form factor then I'd be willing to switch from everything apple.
Exactly. The pixel form factor is the best for a foldable.
Haven't had any issues typing on the cover screen and I have chubby fingers lol.
Had my Z fold 5 for 3 weeks now. My first foldable and a replacement for a Pixel 7 Pro. I watch several reviews of the Pixel fold and the Z fold 5 before buying.
Even though I like the P7P, I decided on the Z fold 5, based mainly on software, the folding format/hinge design, better heat management and the experience they have developing foldables.
I agree the front cover display could be 2-3mm wider. But I have very small hands and it isn't usually an issue.
I am waiting for the Pixel 8 Pro. It is reputed to be a massive upgrade and is only three weeks away. It will cost half the Fold 5 and have much better cameras, a new chip reported as the first in the world with integral thermal improvements. Android 14 on the P7P has increased battery life by 33% and smoothness, heat and speed on that old phone are now great.
Good choice, fold 5 light years better, seriously no comparison.
Fold 5 ... Closed it reminds me of a iPhone mini but then opens into a iPad mini
6:59 disable scene optimization and your issues with oversaturation will be fixed
I know you seem averse to using a different keyboard for the typing on the cover display but I've been using the fold for over 2 years now. Do yourself a favor and download GBoard and start swiping to type on the cover. Game changer!
Thanks!
That’s so kind - thank you 😊
I plan to go for a z fold mobile, after the 6 hits the market. if it will be a refurbished 5 or I wait 3 months for the price to go down to buy a 6 - I don‘t know yet - BUT it will be a Samsung foldable. Thanks for your thoughts.
the narrow front screen is great, the whole point is one handed use
We suppose to use S pen to do typing to reduce finger print on screen. But I highly recommended everyone learn finger dragging typing with one finger if you dont like or you don't have S Pen. Yes, it take practice, but it is faster than normal typing with two fingers. It is a new skill to use your drawing finger to do typing.
Fold 5 all the way, Samsung owns this market.
Also looking forward for the Honor phone…. Looks sick!
Hi Mark! As a iPhone 13 mini owner, I’m wondering if the external display of the fold is of similar narrowness. I love typing on my mini, if it’s similar that sounds great actually. Cheers.
Same
Great video Mark, but you're not fooling anyone! I bet you already have your order in for a 15 Pro Max, don't you?! Big folding phones.. nah, not for me. I like the little flip ones though.
Haha - glad you enjoyed it! And of course I’ve ordered the iPhone 15 Pro Max 😉
Z fold series is better and has better UI software optimization compared to ANY FOLDABLE especially the the pixel fold..
Samsung Foldable over the pixel fold. Love your content Mark. The keyboard width is t an issue for me. I have moved to the Z Fold 5 from IPhone 13 Mini. (Arguably the best IPhone) 😊 I get annoyed with android lack of auto correct on the keyboard.
Keep it coming man. Loving your content.
Thanks for the lovely words!
I just got the fold 5 I like the option of using dex I don't need a lap top
Beautiful review thanks❤ I go buy Samsung Galaxy fold 5
I bought it yesterday my dear brother
3 weeks ago I switched from a iphone 13 pro to a Z fold 5. Not sure I could go back to a normal slab phone now. Picked up my Mrs Pixel 8 pro the other day and weirdly it felt massive haha.
You like holding the slim fold and it also fits well in your pocket, but you also want a wide screen? How can you physically have both? Moreover Pixel doesn't even maximise the apps in the screen, then what's the point of having it large? To me, the Pixel isn't even a competitor.
Hi sorry to disappoint lol wouldn't go foldable at all , loving my S23 ultra to much and I don't need a big screen on my phone , p.s another great video
I do agree with Samsung about Fold 5 Screen size it's just Perfect,if you need large Screen buy one Tablet, Fold Phones they are not Tablet
Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 5 is the best foldable phone in the world
I'm just waiting for a foldable iphone, which I know comes off very apple sheep-like, but it's not for no reason. Part of it is like you said: they won't get into it until 'it just works'. Most of it, though, is that I currently get more productivity benefits from the ecosystem than the size of my phone's screen. Hence why I use a 13 mini. Going foldable would be the way to shift tablet-like tasks to my phone without it being so much of a brick, or at least getting more out of that added size and weight.
Left Apple bc they couldn't be bothered putting a 120hz display on anything non-pro, and the size of the iPhone Mini was the only acceptable size. The 6+ inch screen is ridiculous and not necessary on a single task-based product. The cover screen on the fold is equivalent to the 12 and 13 mini screen width, meaning 1 device replaced my iPhone Mini and iPad.
Samsung and Google have made some good progress, but the smartwatch, health services, and update method being hosted by carriers - meaning ATT can block updates if your device isn't on an active ATT line - all still need some work.
I think Samsung doesn't increase the width of the phone because they would have to make it shorter and it would be hard to incorporate the s pen. The pen would be too small and that's Samsung's staple on their flagship phones
narrowness is also a feature not a bug.
For me the big thing that’s put me off foldable phones is that crease down the middle. The fact I can see it so easily in videos means it’s going to be obnoxious in person. The moment they can find a solution to the crease, I’m diving right in
You don’t notice it once you use it
I've had a fold 4 since december and I still notice it regularly, especially when there is a light reflecting on the screen. I still think it's not that bad considering the good parts of having a foldable but it's definitely still there.
I've got fold 5 and I worried about same thing but I never notice it unless I look for it . And almost never even if I look for it when it unfolded and turned sideways . Loving the phone so far never want non folding again tbh
I wish I have this kind of phone😊😊❤
Whole heartedly disagree with you on the cover screen. I have large hands and only have had a few occasions where it's been a pain to use. But then I'm used it having had a few Folds before. If Samsung widens it I think it will ruin the usability (I don't like wide phones).
Love the rest of your review - such good content and well delivered.
Any time someone prefers the Pixel over the Fold, all they're saying is they don’t like foldables, they like regular phones and tablets when they care to have them. Even with countless downsides to the Pixel he still picks it because its front screen is more familiar.
The Pixel Fold is a foldable 🤨
@MarkEllisReviews It's like you're not hearing what I'm saying. The Pixel is a foldable that focuses more on its front facing screen than its inner display. The user experience is encouraged to use the front display more, and the inside is an afterthought. The Pixel doesn't fold open all the way, it's inside aspect ratio is awkward with barely any apps are optimized for it, it's performance is slower than the fold, it's battery life is next to nothing (if you're someone who uses it as a foldable and not a average phone), no stylus support for a "tablet" like phone, the durability test are embarrassing compared to the Fold, and it smells like expired catfood out the box. The only foldable the Pixel is beating is the iPhone 15 since it can't bend more than 1 nanometer without the entire back panel shattering.
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Best day ever.
The front display is absolutely fine, how on earth did you ever use the old nokia phones 😂. Its meant to be one handed. My partner has very big hands and he manages fine.
I like the front screen i can use it just fine and it discourages you to not be on your phone 24/7 like too many of us do but i do disagree i had a chance to use the Pixel Fold and from my experience this the Z Fold 5 is so much smoother and more optimized I havent seen black bars once on anything on this phone its just a better experience and lets not even talk about the Chipset I play PUBG on the highest settings for hours at a time and the ZF5 doesnt even get hot, now go try that on the Pixel and you will see what i mean lol
If I wasn’t knee deep in the Apple ecosystem, I’d defo go for the Pixel.
Thanks for the vid!
Get yourself a swipe keyboard and be happy.
Excellent review. Based on videos only (never actually held neither of them in my hands), I like the Pixel’s form factor much better.
But let’s be serious here- what is this unappetizing looking red thingy on the French fries ?
Thanks! It is as Currywurst! And it was delicious.
You should review the OnePlus open
Just waiting for PIXEL to place a better chip or Samsung to give us the correct form factor or 1+ to give us the BEST PRICE ❤
the 13 Mini is the greatest phone ever created. No folding, bending, twisting or fumbling required. Fits perfectly in one hand and does everything the new 15 pro max can do or this phone can do. 13 Mini army for life.
you cannot watch a youtube film or Netflix serie the way I do on my Fold 5. No way José.
My opinion is that if the regular iPhone is not too narrow, then the Fold is not too narrow either, as there is only a few mm of difference.
Mate, ive jumped between apple and Samsung over the years.... I binned my iPhone14 pro max for the zfold 5... Eh, more customisation, the fact it has two screens is a negative? Who cares about the elongated front screen! You can always open it! Duh!
Just switched to this phone after being with the iPhone for 12 years
I try not to be an early adopter of tech. For me the foldable phone is still very early in its life.
So I’ll wait for another year or so
Sensible!
@@MarkEllisReviews
I do like new shiny things mind you. But I have an Apple iPhone 14 Pro Max but day I might crave a bigger screen but I like the “ intimacy” of the 6.7 screen
I'd go with the pixel fold, if it had a better chip, the exynos 2 is not powerful enough for a foldable
For me, it's a no for all foldables, at least for now. For one thing, I've yet to see a foldable phone whose form factor and overall design would be appealing enough.
Also, and I fully appreciate it's a personal preference thing, I'm not comfortable with the amount of surfaces that can be either physically damaged or can give out if something goes wrong inside a device 🤷♀️
Exactly.
A mic measured comment - thank you!
@@MarkEllisReviews You're my favourite tech reviewer, even when it's a product I don't particularly care for. You always keep it simple (and I mean this in the best possible way) and offer balanced and reasonable arguments. Keep up the good work 👍
Ok boomer
@@kefinkamed thank you!
I was an Android user are the fiasco I have with the Galaxy note 4? I switched to IOS. I tried a Google Pixel 4 and found it was a good phone but the memory was too small. I was still within my 24 trail period and my phone company totally F-me into going back to IOS. But I’m limited on access to websites the use older technology. I work for a dealership and some of manufacturers websites won’t load or open with and IOS operating system. It doesn’t matter whose web browser I use. I tested a Z fold at my local phone store I was able to get onto every one of the websites I use. Yes I’m thinking about making the switch.
For the algorithm. 🤙
Swipe to text is my friend
Remote. Too narrow. Not everyone has child hands. Make it WAY wider!
Why doesn't anyone swip to text..... that's the point and quickly swipe text and you have bigger hands than me. It drives me crazy seeing you reviewers complaining about the cover screen soooooooo much....swipe to text and believe me it helps big time , especially if you have big hands
Samsung needs not touch the smaller front display. It’s perfect, you’re just fat thumbing it. The cameras both photo and video blow the iPhone out the water.
I switched from 12 pro max to the Z fold 5 and I like it. Until Iphone comes out with a fold, I’ll stay with Samsung.
Keyboard was annoying and I switched to Gboard and life is good.
I wasn't interested in folds pre-Google released the Pixel Fold and took the front display seriously. Sadly, the Fold4 I have has proven frustrating to the point of hate because of that front display. I want to avoid opening it repeatedly or using a swipe keyboard. This fundamental flaw is proven by every other fold having a wider front display. Over 80% in a poll on Twitter wanted a wider Fold 6 display. Poorly done, Samsung, poorly done.
Not only would a wider display be a big boost for use, but it would also allow a larger battery as per other folds and maybe even room for an S-pen silo. We can only hope that Samsung admits its mistake and gives us what the majority want. So they missed a sale for me, and I am now on the Pixel Fold and love the choice of having a usable front and inner display... the choice is great, not forced.
Other than that deal-breaker, the Fold 5 looks very good, just needs a bigger battery, 10X zoom, S-pen silo, better inner display (PPI of S23U is 50% greater) and more modern UW and 3X zoom lenses.
I have both. I got the pixel fold maybe 2 days ago and here's what I've discovered...where Samsung trips up? Google excels in spades and vice versa. If the pixel fold had the fold 5s battery life, fast charging and processing speed/power? Nothing would touch it. Same way if the fold 5 had better cameras, a wider screen and googles software. The pixel fold so far to me is the better foldable but the fold 5 is no slouch as well...can't lose with either.
Tech is all about compromises!
The pixel has poor software scaling which is crazy given its google. Fold for me.
Too bad neither the Honor or the Pixel Fold are not available in Canada.
That is indeed a shame.
A foldable phone that doesn’t open all the way is an automatic deal breaker. Pixel fold. Lol
I've once used google's tablet but it was out not working for half year time wtih no reason, their idea is good but QC may not be better than the giant Samsung.
Apple won’t want to affect iPad sales either
Every time you have to type you have to open the display…. Sounds awful
Zed 👍🏽
That crease would do my head in
The pixel fold has ZERO stylus support though. For a true productivity devise, it needs a stylus, and no one does that better than Samsung. The Pixel FF is great but sans stylus support, its a nonstarter.
+ s-pen
The Pixel by no means matches the Fold 5. If you think the cover screen is an issue, we'll just tick to a normal slab phone. You don't need to buy a pixel to get a wider display and not even use the inner larger display. It's frustrating that every reviewer is losing the point as to what a foldable is supposed to be. It's supposed to force you to use the massive display more than the outer display.
‘Triggered’, as the trolls say.
No, it is not meant to force you to use the inner display. That is a joke, and if that was what Apple created, a dodgy front display and said you are supposed to use the internal screen, they would be the laughing stock. You pay $1800 and deserve both screens to be great, and using free will, choose inner or outer with zero compromises. Wrong, wrong, wrong!
Your confused. You say the i phone 14 is two big to put in pocket, the fold can put in pocket but you want it bigger
Not sure where to start with this monstrosity of a comment.
It’s no longer about hardware for me. The eco system between watch, phone, tablet and pc and fitness keeps me with Apple.
Mate, I got into that way of thinking... Multiple apple let downs later, including my 2020 MacBook pro who's keyboard just went 'meh!' Samsung's ecosystem is just as good if not better.... Ever experienced the joys of Dex?
And don't forget... This is the same company that put my powermac out of commission by going intel... Then, go 180 again with their proprietary 'm' chips... At least Dick Turpin wore a mask while going on the rob!
I disagree - the pixel fold looks too wide open and looks uncomfortable to hold. Those thick bezels are ugly, resembling something from the last decade. Trust in quality is another issue. I would rather have something I can rely on and not doubt.