Ranking The Best QBs In The NFL Heading Into The 2024 Season | PFF
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- Опубліковано 29 тра 2024
- PFF's Sam Monson and Trevor Sikkema discuss the top-10 players at quarterback entering the 2024 NFL season.
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Props to the guy on the bottom for setting things straight.
Lamar is easily #2.
It brings me joy to see how mad Bills and Bengals fans get when they see Lamar (rightfully) ranked as #2
Is it because of his 2 mvps or the facts that Lamar is better than both of them.
@@jokerworld9707 If Lamar had Josh Allens numbers (4,000 yards passing and 44TD's) and did not win the MVP Ravens fans would lose their mind.
@@thesedaze2381 BUT, he HAS never come close to most QB"S stats on this list [PASSING ] , Yes he's a GREAT RB , still playing the QB spot ? Him with still with 1 of the BEST teams around him, 1 of the great kickers & a great HC . STILL can NOT win Play offs games at HOME ! 2 MVPS come with QB"S having OFF seasons & injuries for a lot of them ? Why he has won 2 MVPS awards in my mind !
Cry abt it@@robertd.7060
Not rightfully lololol
I don't understand the Allen over Jackson argument. Turnovers.
Jackson is the worst playoff QB in NFL history since he can't pass or make good decisions. Allen makes TO's yes but he has to put the team on his back like Brett Favre and play hero ball.
Touchdowns +playoffs
Josh Allen is trash without a true number one
Allen’s production is ridiculous even with the turnovers. IIRC, he was top 5 in EPA/play despite the turnovers, which is insane when you consider how much they negatively affect EPA. His positive impact far outweighs the negative, especially when his turnovers don’t often matter because they’re arm punts on 3rd and 4th down
@@excaliburofthelevant5750 We saw him without a #1 for 11 games last year, led league in tds
How is dak higher than Rodgers & Stafford
I understand Rodgers but Stafford is consistently underrated
Because he was playing like an MVP last season
@@Rekcha apart from when it really matters like always
I can’t wait until CJ STROUD proves y’all wrong.. this list makes no sense…😅
He’s in the top ten after one season. They’re showing him a ton of respect so what the fuck are you annoyed about?
Lamar is a top 2 QB in the NFL. That’s not even debatable when you really break it down.
6 tds and 6 int in the playoffs through 6 years
@@chopin1975-tq3gx he was in the AFC championship game last season. Where was your favorite QB?
Unless you count winning, or throwing receivers open, or accuracy, or reading defenses. Other than that Lamar is the greatest QB ever. Another Michael Vick. And in the end you and I will have as many rings as Vick and Lamar.
Joe Burrow in the Top 5 but can’t finish a season is crazy!
Crazy how you guys rank a qb #3 that hasn't been on the field for a complete season last couple seasons. That shizzzzzz baffles me
Y’all don’t even look at your own data and it shows. You should weight these players’ pff overall much much more than you do. You’re completely ignoring the main thing that put PFF on the map in the first place: data.
This is pure opinion and rubbish.
Purdy>Dak
I hate how the narrative with Herbert is oh he’s so talented yet, had only had one playoff appearance and blown it while also having a losing record, and at the same time kyler Murray is also in the same boat and people do nothing but rag on him.
Shows the media has zero consistency, even pff.
You don’t know ball
I agree. Herbert is severely overrated
you can not possibly think kyler is in the same situation as herbert, or even nearly as talented. Kyler's talented in his own ways, but herbert's pure talent is up there with mahomes and allen. The perfect stat to describe herbert is how he put up the most points in nfl history through 3 seasons, but at the same time his defense allowed the most points in nfl history through that same 3 year span. Once Herbert has a stable organization to support him, he will be touted as a unanimous top 5 QB. Mahomes is in his own tier. Tier 2 is allen, lamar, burrow. Tier 3 is headlined by Herbert, who is easily the closest out of any QB in the league to reaching that "Tier 2" status
Herbert’s team is awful. I’d be curious to see what he does with a decent supporting cast. Same with Kyler
Since 2020, Herbert has 18,134 (total yards), and 125 (td's). ⚡⚡⚡
Maybe in year 8 of Herbert’s career he’ll finally start producing results and everyone can put him in the hall of fame
Lol
Herbert has 18,341 total yards, and 125 td's going into year five (5). Harbaugh will produce the wins, and Herbert will be a superbowl winning mvp, on his way into the HOF. ⚡⚡⚡
@@montfordpointmarines9474 Herbert will retire without ever even winning his division because the guy in KC is so much better than him.
@@mathewjones8886 , you don't have to win your division to win the Superbowl. ⚡⚡⚡
@@montfordpointmarines9474 Actually, the stats say you do. Go and look at how often a wild card team wins the SB. It's not impossible but it makes things considerably more difficult and judging by the fact Herbert lost a playoff game in which he was gifted 4 first half turnovers there's nothing he done so far to suggest he's capable of winning three post season games away from home.
*lol they put the Raven's RB in their top 10 QBs*
I love how Lamar is only there because he’s got 2 mvps. The other guys were mid/liabilities and they just get benefits of the doubt
The only question I have is this. Joe Burrow has better targets than Brock Purdy, The edge at TE and RB would go to Purdy but Burrow has two receivers that would be the 49ers number 1. So on to the question. In the NFL (not college) what has Joe Burrow done in 4 years that Brock Purdy hasn't done in a year and a half. Since you cannot say Purdy has better weapons then you have to just judge them on the field. Both have come close in MVP. Both have lost a Super Bowl. Yet Purdy has a better QB rating, better win percentage, and done it all in less time than Burrow. Personally i think Mathew Stafford is better than Burrow. But Burrow is considered to be this great QB because he won a championship in college. Purdy is better than Joe Burrow in any rating you want to use, and he is a better runner than Burrow, I don't get it. (Maybe the college championship is why Trevor Lawrence is still ranked so high)
I didn’t see no drop off on production when Browning replaced Burrow at QB ..pull up the stats and see the real truth !
Browning plays his game well but a healthy Burrow would have taken that team to the playoffs. No doubt. Burrow can make throws no other qb can.
@@zachtooill Definitely not true any throw he makes mahomes and allen can make Herbert can too tbh
Browning is not a scrub he’s a backup to Joe but he would start over Lamar that’s what’s so funny he is way better passer than Lamar and Josh he had 91 touchdowns in high school
Do you really think they don’t know how well Browning did? And didn’t consider that when making the list?
@zachtooill there isn't a single throw Burrow could make that Mahomes and Allen couldn't match
lol Lamar over Josh is crazy. Dude got a Mickey Mouse MVP last year and people lose their minds
Micky mouse 😂 your white savior is an interception machine and before u bring up playoffs WHAT HAS JOSH DONE OUTSIDE OF THAT ONE YEAR .u wanna say Joe better than Lamar fine ( even tho he's 8-1 against him) least joes been to the bowl
@@Jamal_Hills_burner916how about watch a game clown. If Lamar was white you’d be calling him trash and if Allen was black he’d be the best thing ever. Every team in the league would draft Allen over Lamar
Exactly he won it last year by default, I don’t think he was even top ten in passing. The MVP’s need context and are still just people’s opinions at the end of the day. If you watch at all and are unbiased there’s no way you could say Lamar is better.
Lamar got 2 mvps. This dude still think Allen better.
Bruh just hate Lamar.
Allen puts up significantly more yards and TDs than Lamar and has much better playoff performances every year. The only argument to say Lamar is better is interceptions but if you add in fumbles they have almost the exact same turnover rate.
@@speezgaming0073 yards? What do yards mean?
Allen has more passing yards becuz he has more passing attempts.
Pretty simple.
If you compare their tds last year though, even though Allen had around 40 total tds, he only had 29 passing tds compared to Lamar’s 24 passing tds which isn’t that much of a difference especially considering Allen had over 100 more passing attempts
Allen - 579 passing attempts
Lamar’s - 457 passing attempts
Then you have to take into account ravens lead the nfl in redzone rushing tds, if Lamar wanted he could have kept the ball to run in for extra tds but instead he just handed it off to his rb which is why gus edwards was 2nd in rushing tds out of all rbs. Gus Edwards is a middle of the pack rb.
@@speezgaming0073 then when we look at playoff success, Allen is 5-5, Lamar is 2-4. He’s won 3 more playoff games than Lamar but Lamar also missed the playoffs in 2021-2022 due to injury.
They both have reached the AFC title game once.
So to say Allen is better than Lamar cuz he has 3 more playoff wins but is still .500 in the playoffs doesn’t really make much sense.
There is really no solid argument for Allen over Lamar except for the fact you like Allen better becuz he is whyte and Lamar Is blakc.
@@speezgaming0073 fumbles are really chance plays and aren’t really the qbs fault for fumbling. Unless the qb is juts holding the football so carelessly and the ball falls out his hand, I’m not really gonna hold fumbles against a qb.
But let’s get back to the significantly “more yards” and tds convo.
@@speezgaming0073 dude bulls have gotten knocked out in the div round the last 3 years 🤣🤣 no one wants to talk bout that.
Josh Allen can’t get over the hump.
He’s 0-3 vs mahones in the playoffs as well.
He’s only reached the AFC title game once, same as Lamar.
He has 0 mvps.
Like I said, there is no valid argument for Lamar at this point.
Tbh it really never was any point taht Allen was better than Lamar, he simply has the better team, but at least it was somewhat a reasonable debate in prior seaons,
But after this last season it’s not a debate.
No other qb with Lamar’s credentials has been disrespected like he is.
I would switch 5 and 10.
if the media and journalists voted for the mvp like they do in the nba Allen would have at least 2 MVP's, but the NFL mvp is a narrative drive award unfortunately. And idk how you have burrow and lamar above Allen...
No Lamar would still win lol , just like college
I’m not even a ravens or bengals fan but this is insane delusion. What narrative could the media possibly be trying to push against Allen? Lmao the media loves him
@@Mb-ce9dy They talk about his turnovers like its actually relevant; his offensive production cancels out his turnovers. thats usually the argument.
@@chopin1975-tq3gx when you turn the ball over as much as he does on a year to year basis they are absolutely relevant. I think he had a very good argument for mvp this past year but he definitely wouldn’t have 2. Also his offensive production doesn’t cancel out the turnovers because that’s not how football works
@@Mb-ce9dy it actually is.. he has the best td-turnover ration in the NFL by a large margin. Also a lot of his interceptions last year didnt turn into anything for the opposing team. A lot of arm punts
Jackson shouldn’t be top 6
You a little dumb, huh?
The reigning MVP - & one of three active QBs who have won the award - s/b outside the top 5?
Unplug and go outside, brother man.
Trailer 🗑 maga logic
@@thatdude659 fake MVP even Baltimore fans we’re 50/50 on him last season
Caveman
Lamar a fantastic passer of the deep ball? Cmon man, I’m a fan of Lamar but that’s just not true. If anything that’s more of his weakness as of late
Check his ranks he’s actually one of the better deep ball throwers in the league
3 seconds into this and I am LOST...CJ STROUD is definately in the top 5 , if not #4....What are you thinking
That you don't earn it in one year!
Dak and Rodgers?! LMFAO!!
Right lol. Dak at 6 is crazy
That’s PFF for ya!
This list is dumb.. CJ STROUD at 10??.. what are y’all looking at??..
Herbert and stroud are 2 and 3 Behind Pat. IQ, processing decision making and consistency got overlooked.
@@Chrism7178 Herbert makes a lot of bonehead plays and Stroud has not earned it yet.
@@thesedaze2381 Bonehead plays?.. That's a lie...lmao.. Come with a real argument bonehead plays?.. The guy thats top 5 in nFL history already in turnover rate?...the guy that leads the league in fewest intercepable pass %age?... Herbert haters always lying 😂
@Chrism7178 I'm a Herbert fan, but he is NOT TOP THREE. And bone head is not only int's. It's throwing a 20 yard incompletion when you needed two yards for the first. It's throwing a 7 yard completion on 3rd down when you needed 9 yards. If you say that doesn't happen YOU ARE LYIING.
@@thesedaze2381 LMAO...it's you lying for like Bruh...lol
😁
How in the world is Rodgers even ahead of Goff? You can only measure based off last season. Rodgers shouldn't even be on this list.
They keep making excuses for Herbert Allen is a top 10 Wr give him to Lamar and see what would happen Herbert folds when the pressure is on him and travor
and second, a guy coming off an injury shouldn't actually get ranked (it makes sense) WOW....Guess your going to be blown away when the Texans knock off the Chiefs as they Waltz into the SuperBowl...Tell me what teams defense will be able to stop the Texans from scoring 40 very game! NOBODY!
Where would Purdy be in this? Idk man
Purdy>Dak
I have Purdy at 4.
@@HERNANDEZ45308 I don’t care where purdy is as long as he’s ahead of Dak
Terrible rankings - Josh Allen is WAY better than Lamar
The Dak Prescott hype has to stop
Sorry but joe burrow and lamar are not better than Josh allen nonsense.
lol where are Josh Allen’s MVPs?
No way Jordan Love and Stroud NOT top 7 but Herbie Boy still TOP 5 ? based on what ? Tall White & Long Hair ?
And he doesn’t even have the long hair anymore 😂
@@DefyThemAll 😂😂😂😂😂
To be fair, Love only had one season and it was a very “up and down” season. He was really good, but he’s gonna be even better this upcoming year (assuming he doesn’t get injured)
Love has only had one good half season, and Stroud one great season, while Herbert has had multiple great seasons. Stop it
@@sprawlz6466bro legitimately almost made the NFC Championship in his first year as a starter FOH with that foo 😂😂
Herbert and the dang excuses. Can they just admit this guy is not that great. They were quick to toss Hurts to the curb but forever say this guy is amongst the tops.
Not having Jordan Love on this list is crazy
Clown show! Hurts is not a QB He doesn’t see it. Dak can’t win in playoffs. The guy turns into a pumpkin. Rodgers was good 3 years ago. Where is Purdy? All the guy does is win? He has more playoff wins than most on the list.
Purdy>Dak
This Dak Prescott BS has got to stop. I watched him get outplayed by Jimmy Garappolo for heaven's sake
Herbert > Burrow anda its no close
It's NOT close ???? 🤔 I think ur a little bias my friend
Herbert being #5 is goofy.
Josh Allen was the highest ranking QB last year incase everyone forgot. And he actually shows up in the playoffs and in losses.
lol. TheTURNOVER MACHINE. Also, he wears Velcro shoes.
@@AC-cl7tlfacts. Him wearing Velcro shoes should move him down a few more spots
@@AC-cl7tl didn’t have any turnovers in the playoffs.
That fumble kept them from a first down and missed throw underneath. You right no turnovers but bad plays cost him again. Fact is they lost to the chiefs because of Josh Allen making bad plays. So in the end everything you give him all the praise for is the exact reason he has no ring. Talk all that Brett Favre gunslinger shit you want, difference is Farve won a championship.
@@JG-ul3oy and no one else besides Mahomes has gotten one besides stafford. Josh shows up vs the cheifs does ur QB? Josh missed 1 throw the rest of them bounced off his WRs hands. Then his kicker missed a 43 yard fg to tie. It’s never been Josh’s fault they lose to the cheifs but he always atleast is there scoring TDs.
Lamar clears Allen & burrow easy
He is not close to either of them… you probably would get 14 on the wonderlic, just like Lamar.
"Rodgers, who knows what to do with him, right? 40 years old coming off an Achilles injury."
Proceeds to place him over a healthy Matthew Stafford who finished the season at an MVP pace.
Make it make sense, PFF. 🫤