In my fifth play through of the game, I decided to try to get the Maria ending. I knew that I had to protect her from Pyramid Head in the hospital hallway, so when I got down there and PH appeared behind us, I wheeled around and shot Maria in the face with a shotgun. Twice. I got the leave ending.
I just unlocked it on hard difficulty I’m pretty sure I kept her protected very well up until that point. Pyramid Head stabbed her four times and I ran like hell and still managed to get this ending. Very rewarding.
I didn't protect her in the hospital hallway (that part always makes me run in terror and leave her behind LOL) but still got her ending. * I WALKED around the hospital with her so she was always close to me, * Ran through SH but always stayed close/waited for her to catch up, * Checked on her in room S3 after every puzzle (about 5x total and spoke to her each time), * Tried to get into the door in the labyrinth twice, * I did protect her from other enemies though, * Idled for about 10 mins in the hospital stairwell. I avoided everything that triggers the other endings (hallway conversation, note on hospital roof, looking at Mary's photo/letter, the knife and the reading room tape). If anyone reading is having it could be that you're doing things right but putting too many points into the other endings.
This has to be the most cynical ending. James doesn't learn a thing and chooses to live inside a comfortable lie, replacing an actual human being as his companion with a hallucination who's tailored towards his base desires.
yo lo que no entiendo amigo es que el se va con maria y se la podria cojer onda podria tener sexo con ella tocarla pero nadie la ve solo el la ve es emfermo y retorcido.
Maria's not a hallucination. Human might not be the right word but she's still a physical being with flesh and blood and we see she has at least some self awareness in Born From A Wish where she's going through an existential crisis because she doesn't know what she is. She's so despondent she even considers committing suicide. A hallucination doesn't do that. She's a very tragic character.
Actually the cough of Maria at the end means that Silent Hill will punish James again for his non-redemption, making he live again the experience of the sickness of Mary, so he won't live forever happily with Maria, he'll watch her dying again, maybe he will kill her for the second time.
Martina Epi I know this is what’s meant to happen but I thought Maria was just an illusionary manifestation of James sexual repression of Mary, so is she actually a person or just a thought?
WallStreetBlues i think she is a thought, as a matter of fact, she survives cause he hang on in the idea of mary and the important she is for him. If you discard that idea, she does not survive, cause she is not a subject. This final just means that james will live for ever in a time bucle created by silent hill.
@@MrIcecolddd She is not real. I see her from two ways 1. She is created by James mind in order to replace the Mary figure 2. It is an illusion from the town That`s why she always avoided contacting with the other people in Silent Hill (Eddie, Angela, Laura) because she already knows that they weren`t capable to see her. Because she is a mental representation of James that the town had made for him. To punish him for killing Mary
Daniel Andres Cubides Rodriguez while yes mary is technically not a person in Silent hill 2 born from a wish dlc a prequal its shown she does have feelings and sentience she even contemplated suicide in the beginning of the dlc and at the end of the dlc because she’s confused on her own existence and why she is in silent hill and for the second time its her realizing the truth of her existence but deciding not to commit suicide to pursue her “Programing “for a lack of a better term for a chance at happiness
"James, do you really think I could ever forgive you for what you did?" God, the way her voice escalates from nurturing to accusatory to bloodthirsty in the span of one sentence still makes me shudder.
@@Benleyy To me it felt like they were going for a certain story direction for the voice acting in Silent Hill 2. Everyone has no emotion in their voices, but they're putting their all into it with lines like "For me, it's always like this," "I'm not your Mary", "Killing a person ain't no big deal," etc. I think they were meant to sound lifeless throughout the game on purpose.
You know what'd be really funny and ironic about this Ending? What if it's deliberately made out to foretell James repeating the same mistakes again but the opposite happens. What if Maria falls ill just like Mary and James runs for the pillow again. However, just as he is about to kill Maria he realizes that he's done this before. Perhaps this Ending isn't truly as bad as people think? Perhaps he stops himself and decides to see Maria out even if it means being at her side as she dies. Remember, regardless of whatever ending we get, the Pyramid Heads still kill themselves in acknowledgement of James learning his lesson after the dual PH battle. So even by choosing this Ending James has learnt something. Even with that sinister warning line at the end I cannot help but believe that James will not kill Maria. Perhaps she'll interrupt him as he's about to smother her and ask, "So, you're doing me in like your Mary?" And then he gives in and decides to spare her. As much as Leave Ending has James getting an innocent lil friend as redemption, Maria ending could offer a different kind of redemption. By repeating history over again and offering James the chance to literally stop himself from commiting the same heinous crime again. Too much speculation here. I just feel that spending the whole game caring for Maria and working towards this ending should amount to more than just "he never learnt anything" I like Maria, I think she might have been avoiding others because maybe she would be seen as something else by Eddie or Laura? Perhaps it's only when you get the Maria Ending that Silent Hill makes her a real person to walk away with.
yo amigo no entiendo este final , osea james queda loco solo el la ve y tocar , james queda loco y ezquisofrenico. yo creo que ni bien salga de la ciudad maria se va a derretir y desintegrar porq ella esta ligada al pueblo. james sin duda fue unhdp en este final jajaja,.
This game is so much cooler when you realize your small actions all mean something... toward the ending. I was blown away by that. In today’s games we don’t get that anymore. We get a game that boils down to a final choice that decides the outcome 99 percent of the time. But this game is molded by how you play. By how much you stay on course and focused toward Mary... and by how interested you are by examining her stuff. Or if you visit Maria more than once in the hospital... or try to return later after her second death... and how you treat your health during your playthrough and so on... it truly is catered to how you play and how you choose to handle what is happening. Do you learn and grow and overcome the guilt? Or do you choose to forget it and replace it... or do you choose to end it all together...? Always loved that. This game is truly a one of a kind classic that will always be appreciated.
Most players WOULD feel inclined to check up on the one familiar face in the game who acts friendly in this hostile environment. I really feel that this is the canon ending considering that James Sunderland is said to have gone missing in the 4th game, and the 'In water' ending kinda clashes with the pyramid head final fight theme.
I almost forgot I did this as a monologue in my HS drama class and one girl started crying because she had just lost her Mom and I had no idea. It went great but I felt like shit when she left crying
You're not responsible for other peoples stories in life, it was not something intentional towards her, it just means that the story resonated with her and how powerful the story is in this game because it connects with people.
This is what makes Sh2 so powerful. It plays on the true feelings of James and truly fleshes him out.He truly did hate mary, because he couldn't stand watching her suffering and it caused him so much pain.He loved her but he couldn't stand those last moments, leading him to killing her and ultimately feeling guilty.
Im not sure it does flesh him out though. We dont really ever see him going through the emotions of killing Mary. We also dont see the aftermath of what becomes of him. He broke the delusion, but we are left with more questions than before.
@@BenleyyThe aftermath is inferred, it's not stated. He rejected the truth when speaking with "Mary" so we can conclude that he'll reject the truth again. The line, "you better do something about that cough" is suggesting that James is not willing to accept Maria's illness, just like he wasn't willing to accept Mary's. No matter what ending you get, what James has done should be unforgivable. Only Mary herself has the power to forgive him, and without accepting the truth, James can never speak to the real Mary and reach that absolution. In the Maria ending, James is still ridden with guilt. All he has left is Maria, the amalgamation of all his harmful emotions regarding Mary. Every ending shows a different version of James, with Leave and Water being the versions where he has truly learned something. I can see how you'd reach the conclusion you did. I know people who are very adamant about being shown what happens in a story, while I enjoy things being left a mystery. It's all a matter of personal taste. I wanted to give some sense of closure to this ending by explaining it like this, it's not that I assume you don't understand it, it's that I can understand how this kind of inference is lacking so I just wanted to share my thoughts on it.
@@e300yt no, the in water ending that's most fitting for the song "promise" actually has a song called angel Thanatos or something which imo barely fits
@@eliot_3475 nah, You have even a God damn tittle of each song fit each ending - "Leave" with "Angel's Thanatos" - Thanatos is Ancient Greek's god of death. - "Promise" fit's "Maria" ending since it's gives a hope for new beginning with women looking like Mary. But will the Promise be unbroken? We don't know and so does James.
The town of silent hill itself have the power to materialise people desires and guilt out for people to face and overcome.People who are suffering somehow connected with silent hill and their inner world is given flesh and form.I wonder if the reverse can happen or not if happy people with positive thoughts can connect with silent hill. Would be interesting enough to see silent hill as a paradise or a happy town for once to break the tradition. Lol.
+zrifepsych That or the fact that monsters just never show up when she's around. Even flesh lips waits for her to lock the door before attacking James.
+LAMIAHERCULES I don't think it works when the people are happy or have positive thoughts, it's strongly implied that Laura (who has no "baggage" so to speak) sees the town normally, so chances are for these people the town is just normal for them.
James says that Mary has been dead for three years but he made it all up. I mean, he killed her... You think he would remember that. So him saying she's been dead for three years doesn't mean anything. To prove it even more, Laura received a letter from Mary that ended with her wishing Laura a happy 8th birthday. James then asks Laura how old she is and she replies, "I turned eight last week." That right there proves Mary died less than a week before the events of the game began.
Well, yeah. The "three years" figure came from the doctor's prognosis of how long she had to live; James deluded himself into believing she'd actually been dead for that long.
What James means by ”a long three years” is most likely how long Mary suffered until James killed her. That is why he says that to the illusion of Mary he meets on the roof.
@@fowreeeeeeeel Yes, that's exactly it. And another way to look at it is that, to James, Mary basically died when she first got sick. That was the beginning of the end. Also, I think my original comment was actually a reply to someone else, but I guess because it's so old, UA-cam doesn't recognise it as one anymore. Interesting, lol.
@@Rilumai Another thing about the Maria ending, for a split second you can see James eyes look down when he talks to Maria about how he wants Maria. Since James defeated the pyramids he doesn’t feel guilt nor desire for punishment, i think James is lying to himself in the ending, he is so desperate to be with Mary that he accepts Maria, but we can clearly tell he sees her as lesser, as an emotional punching bag. People say James is replacing Mary with Maria, when he clearly does not care about Maria at all in the ending, she is lesser. You can tell by the hate and anger in his delivery of ”you’d better do something about that cough” James has no sympathy, merely expressing his frustration and sadness about Mary’s passing on the person who he knows only exists to lure him, and he hates her for it (Maria) The ending is not about James being selfish, it is about him releasing his anger on the towns attempt to replace his Mary, James simply sees Maria as a pet he can abandon any time, he takes Maria with him to vent his anger as a part of his grieving process.
This ending is the only way out for Maria, a woman who has self awareness, feelings and consiousness, like any other human being, a fact that most people overlook totally, completely..! Even though the game provides you with "born from a wish" , JUST IN CASE you didnt realise that Maria is not just a test subject just for James to pass and then proceed and drown himself in the lake....!!
@@Kreamations She’s a demon she shapeshifts and she has more than 7 lives. Also the reason the town chose a reincarnation of Mary, “Maria” was to punish James and remind him of what he did to his wife. Maria exists to psychologically torture James.
@@BBoy4040that same side story makes it clear that she had self awareness and feelings, though. Performing tasks for Ernest, someone completely unrelated to James, while also contemplating her own existence until a dread realization that makes she point a gun to her own head, is something no mindless hallucination would do. That being said, these facts elevate the bleakness and sadness of the base story to an entire new level. Imagine waking up alone in a desolate hellscape only to realize this nightmare also happens to be a dead end.
Do you realize that this ending is the worst, because when James says ''You'd better do something about that cough.'' he is hinting that he would kill again ?
after getting that ending in the remake i had to watch this again, but the way he says it is indeed sinister, i remembered it way more compassionate there´s no doubt in the remake that he means ´i will kill you too´
I always had this theory that in the Maria ending, James is stuck in the Fog World Since well, considering that the ending is implying that Maria will get sick and James will live the same cycle again and again, then the town decides to punish him by trapping him in the Fog World, making him re-live the same experience again and again until he either decides to get redemption (Leave) or decides to face the consequences of his actions (In Water) That would explain why in SH4 it says that James disappeared in Silent Hill
@AquaCrescent you must protect Maria very well, and spend as much time as you can with her. at the hospital, you must go through every floor with her before leaving her in the room where she stays. BUT you have to go visit her many times... of course, you don't have to take all the 5 objects from the "rebirth ending" (to not obtaining it!). as well with the rest of the endings!!! good luck!!!
“Konami honey, did something happen to you? After you and Hideo Kojima stopped making silent hills? You were always so forgetful. Remember that time you could actually sell games?”
Pretty much. Also notice how Maria started coughing in the end. That whould inply that all the terrible things that happened with Mary are just going to repeat with Maria and either James' sorrow will lead him to his end or the experiences of this game will just continue to loop in his denial. To many this whould seem to be the next best ending of the game but to me this one's the worst. It's better for him to just end it in suicide rather than slowly drift into madness and live in torture.
Through my 2021 eyes, I look at the Maria ending differently. This is gonna sound weird but I think it can be interpreted as the healthiest ending. Indulge me here. What if Maria was not born from James's wish, what if she wash born out of Mary's wish? Maybe while struggling with her disease, seeing how unattractive it's made her, and how sexually frustrated SHE was, while witnessing James going out and about cheating on her, she thought: If I were to have a do over, I'd wear what I want, have sex with whomever I want, say exactly what's on my mind, and do whatever I wanted to do. She likes Silent Hill, so it's no wonder that it would be her choice of home. Maria behaves exactly like that, but she's not a bad person really. James views anything sexual as grotesque, all of his desires very much included. So it's possible that although he wishes Mary was more sexed up that's something he would view as a bad and ugly thing, so Maria isn't his imagination's creation. She's born from a wish, but the game doesn't specifically sate it's his wish. She's very forward about being scared of being left alone, something that makes James feel bad, so Mary wouldn't speak up about it. He obviously feels like he was getting a chance for "do over" if he chooses to, so that might be the case for her as well. Mary lived her life to please James, catering to his insecurities, never daring to look attractive enough to make him "work hard for it" or "fear that he may lose her". She was a Madonna through and through. People like that are often the way they are because they're more so molded by other's expectations and a need to please them rather than living their lives for themselves. Maybe she regretted doing that. There's irony in the fact that Maria constantly gets killed by the pyramid head, partly a manifestation of James's libido which she probably was tormented by during her illness. Freedom to do whatever she wants is something she could have had if she just wasn't such a darn "good girl". Maria is an amalgamation of the Madonna and the whore, more like a real multifaceted person rather than a stereotype, and is probably the real Mary. Except now, she's out for herself; even when she's seducing James it's hard not to think that she's doing it FOR HER. She wants to "get on that", she also scolds him for leaving her alone and kinda calls him a wuss. It's not necessarily about James's insecurities, it might be more about her saying what's on her mind and not thinking "Oh my gosh I'd be such a bad wifey if I did it". She had a very limiting existence just so that she could live up to that ideal version of a wife he had, which is ironically ultimately not what he really wanted, he's just ashamed of what he really wanted. James obviously thinks of his wife as a Madonna, even associates her with the virgin Mary. And while he has vividly depicted undisclosed sexual desires, seems like he views his wife in higher regard because he doesn't think she could possibly have the same urges he has. Putting someone on a pedestal like that is unhealthy for both parties and their relationship. If he ends up walking out with Maria it means that they both stop lying to themselves and abide by society's definitions of a "married couple". She is just as sexually charged as he is, she likes wearing short skirts and putting on makeup (It makes her feel sexy and powerful). And he likes to be with a more realistic person who admittedly might be a little harder to maintain, and harder to please, but won't make him feel like a disgusting person and an unworthy partner for desiring sex and a sexy partner as much as he does. He also starts saying what's on his mind rather than repressing, "Hey, your cough makes me uneasy, you should see someone about it". Not "Oh sweaty, it's okay I like it when you're sick because then I can take care of you", because GOD FORBID they both tell eachother the truth when it's unpleasant. They'll fight slot, perhaps even fall out of love with eachother and get divorced maybe. Or stay together and have a more fulfilling relationship because they chose to finally bring the real them into the relationship. Either way, it's the better thing to do. So yeah, this could all have no point and is entirely in my head, it's just that I view the relationship between James and Mary differently in 2021 than the way I did years ago. It's not healthy being a lovey dovey perfect couple because it's simply not the truth. Edit: And I guess the pyramid head being after her with gusto could be James's subconscious not able to reconcile with the idea that Mary can be a whore, not a Madonna.
Do better dude/sis. If you cannot tell maria is the female pyramid head you have a problem. Shes a psychological villan.just like men blame sex addiction (pyramid head) women blame pick mes (marias) "id never yell at you!why dont you want me"..."because youre not her" just as a mans fear is not being manly enough pyramid head...a womans fear is a man being seduced by a pick me when times get hard
And when he says you better do something about that cough, its like telling a woman she better not gain weight.or hes out.Undertones of abuse and superficial lust not love. This is not a new start,hes a villan
Well, this ending is about James sucumbing to his most basic feelings and instincts. And even at the begining of the game, James doesn't really like the way Maria tries to seduce him. So, it wouldn't be hard to believe that Maria is actually Mary, in a way, also giving in to her most basic, honest instincts. It's still a villainous ending though.
Random Procrastinator Theory Time! After watching the Rebirth ending after so many years...I think that with Silent Hill the way it is, that the Maria ending happens after the Rebirth ending in a timeline that was created by James's ritual to revive his dead wife. It's entirely possible, as Silent Hill has shown time and time again to have magical properties that could deny or defy death entirely. Maria could be the reborn Mary, but if she was reborn into a different time as Maria, James's suicide in In Water could have happened just after the event in Rebirth. So...here's a basic rundown: -James Collects objects (Towards Rebirth End) -James drives to lakeside and possibly a boat spotted on his way to the resort-thing (In Water End) -Takes the boat and rows into the middle of the lake to perform the resurrection ritual -Mary is reborn as Maria in another timeline, and wakes up a few hours before meeting James for the 'first' time (Born from a Wish) -James in the Rebirth timeline does not see his wife resurrected, and thus commits suicide...going into the In Water end -???? At some point, Maria could be created by his imagination, could be a rando-stripper who was repurposed for this role due to Silent Hill being the way it is, or could be a real person. I suppose that if James left Silent Hill with Maria, and it wasn't like the ending of the crappy first movie, then it is possible what I proposed up above. All things possible in Silent Hill. :P
Pretty sure the water ending is the ending that is the most canon. In all the other ending he leaves silent hill. But in both sh3 and 4 there are references of him disappearing.
Based on the letter she wrote and the fact that James commits suicide in the other ending, this would be a good ending if it wasn't for that cough at the end
But James got a letter that starts to vanish in the last part of the game, once you get the lakeview hotel the letter is blank, later is only an empty envelope and later there is no envelope, when I noticed it, it was kinda scary. The real letter is kept by Mary/Maria, really weird because it only proves they are one and the same. Leave ending along with in water ending: dying Mary gives James that letter. Maria ending, Maria gives James Mary's letter. Odd.
María carries the same desease as Mary? Maybe is the town that punish James from his sins, repeating the cycle of his wife's sickness, but now with María.
I think this is the best Silent Hill... the story and the meaning of the monsters, everything!!! makes you think if that really happened or it was only on his mind... things like examining Mary's letter just before the fighting against her, and the letter seems empty... because James gets "face to face" with her, and at the final of his way he has realized of what really happened with Mary... makes you think like that letter never existed in first place!!! that it was just an illusion of James..
This would make "In Water" canon as well. It is also hinted at in later games that James disappeared after arriving at Silent Hill. James would have had gotten the letter immediately after her death because Rachael was told to do so as soon as she died. She wouldn't have waited a whole three years to give it to him. It took three years for her to get sick and depend on him whole-heartedly. "It was a long three years." To James, the Mary he fell in love with died three years ago. I.E "Maria" died
Oh I'm very late to the party but Mary was never officially dead so Rachel technically never gave him the letter. When James meet her in the hotel, Laura says she losts one of the two letters she got from Mary. I think she stole both letters from Rachel when escaping the hospital; the second letter is the one Mary wrote to James. And the game ends when James finds it, therefore shattering his belief that Mary is still alive in Silent Hill. The letter he has at the beginning is probably just something that Silent Hill materializes along with Maria to lure in him. It is backed by the fact that the letter disappears from the inventory before the final boss fight: James is realizing it was all a delusion, therefore he doesn't need the fake letter anymore.
I’ve always fantasised that Maria was once a real person and that James was dating her in secret while Mary was in her early stages of being ill and that it was just a cop out for James to be using Maria in a way to make him forget his crimes and throwing away his old life for a new one with her. If this theory is true, then there’s a possibility that this is the canon ending.
I feel like Maria alludes to James spending a lot of time at the strip-club, maybe he became infatuated with a dancer while Mary was dying? The implication seems to be that James' begins to replace Mary way before she died, perhaps even before she got sick.
This ending is terrifying and here's why. Maria is obviously sick like Mary and she will die (4th time?). Or James, as he killed before, will kill Maria. There is a possibility he will go to SH again and repeat the same circle. But there is also a possibility that he won't return. And that is scary. There is the story of Walter Sullivan in the game and the parallel between him and James. I think James most likely will go raping and killing women that might look like Mary or Maria. In general, maniacs look very bland and ordinary like James. Women usually don't see them as a threat. So, I guess, this is the most terrifying ending in the best way possible. Bravo Team Silent!
The purpose of the article about Walter Sullivan in this game is only meant to foreshadow James's first encounter with Pyramid head, as Silent Hill 3 was created years later and the character (Walter) hasn't been created yet. Sorry, not trying to say your opinion is wrong, just want to correct the part about Walter's existence in this game
@@sunnycherylxx i can't agree. James basically refused to move on and decided to attach himself to an illusion; a delusion of his own desires. I cannot accept that as good.
Mary died less than a week before the events of the game... Because James killed her. Also, Maria isn't real. He made her all up to torment him for murdering his wife. She's also more beautiful than Mary because of James' sexual frustration... There are rumors that James even stuffed Mary's body into the trunk of his car which you can see at the beginning of the game. Masahiro Ito, the art director of the game, said he believed that Mary's body was actually on the back seat...
in the dlc "born from a wish" is ernest james mind and the open door at the end the fact that he accepts the creation of the figure of Maria? and so he meets her after in the main story?
"Don't make excuses, James *cough*" That cough...! It's a so powerful and yet so simple way to reveal this last meeting was actually Mary instead of Maria. It makes an exquisit logic of how the Town tries to punsih James no matter what: In Water and Leave Ending as a final attemp to seduce him to this "improved" version on Mary; and Maria Ending as a last punishment to James' non-guilty stand over his crime, through Mary's late grudge. Brilliant!
The Maria ending was also glitchy in my PS2 version. The first time I got it, my console crashed and I it deleted my data. Also one or two times I got it again the flashlight was on, just like in the PC version glitch. Guess it was from the original programming in the end.
We better try to see the good in the bad, I see this ending as a second chance not to be happy but to do the right thing, to let go the woman he loves and confort her until her last breath. To me Maria is Mary and she was cursed, no matter how many times she is murdered, she will come back unless her illnes takes her life for good.
@Will G Suicide is a unforgivable sin,i prefer Leave Ending because it's the best he move on with Mary and Maria and he killed Mary out of pity she was slowly dying that don't make him a murderer he also killed Eddie in self-defense!
James isn't bad, he's flawed. You gotta remember, he came to Silent Hill instead of simply embracing his new-found liberty, forgetting about Mary and moving on. The entire story is about James' reconciling with his guilt. I can't see James as anything other than a forlorn survivor if he decides to 'leave' Silent Hill, however upon choosing Maria in this ending and instead shedding his guilt, he simply resigns himself to lowly beasthood IMO.
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I am reading comments and one question comes to my mind. Why are you people so sure, that James didn't learn anything and will kill Maria like he killed Mary?
The implication of Maria's cough, and his tone. Also the fact that Maria exists as a distraction that James must overcome, and yet he embraces fantasy instead of reconciling his mistakes with Mary.
Was just playing for this ending in a strange twist got the in water ending if I'd of known what was gonna happen id of told my mum to hide the razors and the rope
![Silent Hill 2 - James meets Maria Scene Comparison [Enhanced Edition vs Remake]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/8dpfnPitBw8/mqdefault.jpg)
In my fifth play through of the game, I decided to try to get the Maria ending. I knew that I had to protect her from Pyramid Head in the hospital hallway, so when I got down there and PH appeared behind us, I wheeled around and shot Maria in the face with a shotgun. Twice.
I got the leave ending.
lmfao
I just unlocked it on hard difficulty I’m pretty sure I kept her protected very well up until that point. Pyramid Head stabbed her four times and I ran like hell and still managed to get this ending. Very rewarding.
@@BreathFreeAndRemainNameless heck ya
I just attempted this ending and I got the in water ending. For the second time.
I didn't protect her in the hospital hallway (that part always makes me run in terror and leave her behind LOL) but still got her ending.
* I WALKED around the hospital with her so she was always close to me,
* Ran through SH but always stayed close/waited for her to catch up,
* Checked on her in room S3 after every puzzle (about 5x total and spoke to her each time),
* Tried to get into the door in the labyrinth twice,
* I did protect her from other enemies though,
* Idled for about 10 mins in the hospital stairwell.
I avoided everything that triggers the other endings (hallway conversation, note on hospital roof, looking at Mary's photo/letter, the knife and the reading room tape). If anyone reading is having it could be that you're doing things right but putting too many points into the other endings.
I love the sinister tone of his voice there. "You better do something about that cough...."
Hell yeah i thought it was only me hearing that deep sinister tone :O
Pretty powerful ending D:
I don't know why, but I believe that Maria will end up the same as Mary, being sick. And it would be a punishment for James. At least I think so...
That'd be silent hills final punishment for James for not dealing with his problems and simply choosing an illusory replacement for Mary.
Rainbow Tea that’s what it’s suggesting, James hasn’t learnt anything and he’s going to have to relive every moment until he does!
@Ethan Johnson Maria's not real
This has to be the most cynical ending. James doesn't learn a thing and chooses to live inside a comfortable lie, replacing an actual human being as his companion with a hallucination who's tailored towards his base desires.
yo lo que no entiendo amigo es que el se va con maria y se la podria cojer onda podria tener sexo con ella tocarla pero nadie la ve solo el la ve es emfermo y retorcido.
And she's bound to die of illness, if James doesn't kill her first.
There's also the hint that the cycle may continue
@@chaoticdrawer1885 If it repeats will the next one have big boobies
Maria's not a hallucination. Human might not be the right word but she's still a physical being with flesh and blood and we see she has at least some self awareness in Born From A Wish where she's going through an existential crisis because she doesn't know what she is. She's so despondent she even considers committing suicide. A hallucination doesn't do that. She's a very tragic character.
Hey James you know what helps muffle the sound of a cough? A pillow.
LOL
Too soon man... Too soon
Bruuuuuuuhhh 😂😂😂😂
Bad this will haunt him forever.
Actually the cough of Maria at the end means that Silent Hill will punish James again for his non-redemption, making he live again the experience of the sickness of Mary, so he won't live forever happily with Maria, he'll watch her dying again, maybe he will kill her for the second time.
Martina Epi I know this is what’s meant to happen but I thought Maria was just an illusionary manifestation of James sexual repression of Mary, so is she actually a person or just a thought?
WallStreetBlues i think she is a thought, as a matter of fact, she survives cause he hang on in the idea of mary and the important she is for him. If you discard that idea, she does not survive, cause she is not a subject. This final just means that james will live for ever in a time bucle created by silent hill.
@@MrIcecolddd She is not real. I see her from two ways 1. She is created by James mind in order to replace the Mary figure 2. It is an illusion from the town
That`s why she always avoided contacting with the other people in Silent Hill (Eddie, Angela, Laura) because she already knows that they weren`t capable to see her. Because she is a mental representation of James that the town had made for him. To punish him for killing Mary
Daniel Andres Cubides Rodriguez while yes mary is technically not a person in Silent hill 2 born from a wish dlc a prequal its shown she does have feelings and sentience she even contemplated suicide in the beginning of the dlc and at the end of the dlc because she’s confused on her own existence and why she is in silent hill and for the second time its her realizing the truth of her existence but deciding not to commit suicide to pursue her “Programing “for a lack of a better term for a chance at happiness
@@danielandrescubidesrodrigu8863 Maria is actually ghost/spirit of Mary.
"you better do something about that cough" james you psycho killer
fafafafafafafafafafa better, Run run run, run run run awaaaay
lol I Know right
« If you don’t , i will «
@@anrhotimewolf5634 oh ohhhh yeah!!!
"You better do something about that cough." Oh man I forgot about this ending ... That is so sick and twisted at the end.
+animedudevid Its the way he says it...its so menacing
+animedudevid And then he has to start the cycle, all over again.
lorenzo romano every time you start the game...
Just like Dark Souls...
"James, do you really think I could ever forgive you for what you did?" God, the way her voice escalates from nurturing to accusatory to bloodthirsty in the span of one sentence still makes me shudder.
But SH2 got bad voice acting though lol yeah sure
@@BBoy4040 James acting sucks balls
@@BBoy4040it was pretty bad though.... it had its moments, and i prefer to play the OG game: but it wasnt good
@@Benleyy To me it felt like they were going for a certain story direction for the voice acting in Silent Hill 2. Everyone has no emotion in their voices, but they're putting their all into it with lines like "For me, it's always like this," "I'm not your Mary", "Killing a person ain't no big deal," etc. I think they were meant to sound lifeless throughout the game on purpose.
NEVER GONNA GIVE YOU UP NEVER GONNA LET YOU DOWN NEVER GONNA RUN AROUND AND DESERT YOU
You know what'd be really funny and ironic about this Ending? What if it's deliberately made out to foretell James repeating the same mistakes again but the opposite happens.
What if Maria falls ill just like Mary and James runs for the pillow again. However, just as he is about to kill Maria he realizes that he's done this before. Perhaps this Ending isn't truly as bad as people think? Perhaps he stops himself and decides to see Maria out even if it means being at her side as she dies.
Remember, regardless of whatever ending we get, the Pyramid Heads still kill themselves in acknowledgement of James learning his lesson after the dual PH battle.
So even by choosing this Ending James has learnt something. Even with that sinister warning line at the end I cannot help but believe that James will not kill Maria.
Perhaps she'll interrupt him as he's about to smother her and ask, "So, you're doing me in like your Mary?" And then he gives in and decides to spare her.
As much as Leave Ending has James getting an innocent lil friend as redemption, Maria ending could offer a different kind of redemption. By repeating history over again and offering James the chance to literally stop himself from commiting the same heinous crime again.
Too much speculation here.
I just feel that spending the whole game caring for Maria and working towards this ending should amount to more than just "he never learnt anything"
I like Maria, I think she might have been avoiding others because maybe she would be seen as something else by Eddie or Laura?
Perhaps it's only when you get the Maria Ending that Silent Hill makes her a real person to walk away with.
yo amigo no entiendo este final , osea james queda loco solo el la ve y tocar , james queda loco y ezquisofrenico. yo creo que ni bien salga de la ciudad maria se va a derretir y desintegrar porq ella esta ligada al pueblo. james sin duda fue unhdp en este final jajaja,.
Lautaro Ferrares I'm sorry but I'll have to translate this, no offense.
no me ofende pero no me das tu opinion cara de nano
I think you’re really onto something there.
That's what the end represents, he never learns anything and the cycle continues.
"You'd better do something about that cough......" Almost sounds like a threat........
Cuz it is.. well, maybe not a threat but a warning for sure.
He definitely killed her again when she got just as sick as Mary
"You should do something about that cough...."
-Corona 2020
We survivors Corona and without the shots we have Silent Hill 2 remake coming
This game is so much cooler when you realize your small actions all mean something... toward the ending. I was blown away by that. In today’s games we don’t get that anymore. We get a game that boils down to a final choice that decides the outcome 99 percent of the time. But this game is molded by how you play. By how much you stay on course and focused toward Mary... and by how interested you are by examining her stuff. Or if you visit Maria more than once in the hospital... or try to return later after her second death... and how you treat your health during your playthrough and so on... it truly is catered to how you play and how you choose to handle what is happening. Do you learn and grow and overcome the guilt? Or do you choose to forget it and replace it... or do you choose to end it all together...? Always loved that. This game is truly a one of a kind classic that will always be appreciated.
Most players WOULD feel inclined to check up on the one familiar face in the game who acts friendly in this hostile environment. I really feel that this is the canon ending considering that James Sunderland is said to have gone missing in the 4th game, and the 'In water' ending kinda clashes with the pyramid head final fight theme.
I almost forgot I did this as a monologue in my HS drama class and one girl started crying because she had just lost her Mom and I had no idea. It went great but I felt like shit when she left crying
I dont mean to sound insensitive bur you made a great choice.
You're not responsible for other peoples stories in life, it was not something intentional towards her, it just means that the story resonated with her and how powerful the story is in this game because it connects with people.
@@blackwaltz3135 youre a virgin
9:15 Maria: What is it?
Doc: It's not good news.
The letter at the end is still one of the only things in Silent Hill that gives me chills.
This is what makes Sh2 so powerful.
It plays on the true feelings of James and truly fleshes him out.He truly did hate mary, because he couldn't stand watching her suffering and it caused him so much pain.He loved her but he couldn't stand those last moments, leading him to killing her and ultimately feeling guilty.
Im not sure it does flesh him out though. We dont really ever see him going through the emotions of killing Mary. We also dont see the aftermath of what becomes of him. He broke the delusion, but we are left with more questions than before.
@@BenleyyThe aftermath is inferred, it's not stated. He rejected the truth when speaking with "Mary" so we can conclude that he'll reject the truth again. The line, "you better do something about that cough" is suggesting that James is not willing to accept Maria's illness, just like he wasn't willing to accept Mary's. No matter what ending you get, what James has done should be unforgivable. Only Mary herself has the power to forgive him, and without accepting the truth, James can never speak to the real Mary and reach that absolution. In the Maria ending, James is still ridden with guilt. All he has left is Maria, the amalgamation of all his harmful emotions regarding Mary. Every ending shows a different version of James, with Leave and Water being the versions where he has truly learned something.
I can see how you'd reach the conclusion you did. I know people who are very adamant about being shown what happens in a story, while I enjoy things being left a mystery. It's all a matter of personal taste. I wanted to give some sense of closure to this ending by explaining it like this, it's not that I assume you don't understand it, it's that I can understand how this kind of inference is lacking so I just wanted to share my thoughts on it.
you better do something about that cough....
RUN BITCH,RUUN!
He already tired of her in the parking lot 😭
“You better do something about that cough” and I was like “Maria, I know you’re not real but RUN FOR YOUR LIFE”
Why does one of the worst endings get the best ending music.
ShaDHP23 yes.. true
ShaDHP23 the music plays in almost all the endings
@@e300yt no, the in water ending that's most fitting for the song "promise" actually has a song called angel Thanatos or something which imo barely fits
@@eliot_3475 nah, You have even a God damn tittle of each song fit each ending
- "Leave" with "Angel's Thanatos" - Thanatos is Ancient Greek's god of death.
- "Promise" fit's "Maria" ending since it's gives a hope for new beginning with women looking like Mary. But will the Promise be unbroken? We don't know and so does James.
I really wish James could live happy in Love with maria, i love her and they make a good couple
Yea but she isnt real
@@beaconhousepechsfilm-makin8187 Yes she is. Being born by a magic town doesn't stop her from being real.
@@bongosmcdongos4190 she exists only in James head. Remember nothing in silent hill is physical. Everything is psychological
@LilMoonFlower if they are physical then how is Laura unable to see the monsters
"You'd better do something about that cough... cause my pillow are still with me."
The town of silent hill itself have the power to materialise people desires and guilt out for people to face and overcome.People who are suffering somehow connected with silent hill and their inner world is given flesh and form.I wonder if the reverse can happen or not if happy people with positive thoughts can connect with silent hill. Would be interesting enough to see silent hill as a paradise or a happy town for once to break the tradition. Lol.
Well, what about Laura in this game?
ciptandi she's just a kid. In fact it's heavily implied that the town is normal for her.
+zrifepsych That or the fact that monsters just never show up when she's around. Even flesh lips waits for her to lock the door before attacking James.
+LAMIAHERCULES I don't think it works when the people are happy or have positive thoughts, it's strongly implied that Laura (who has no "baggage" so to speak) sees the town normally, so chances are for these people the town is just normal for them.
Nathan Howard It most likely is just a deserted town to most people. People with darkness in their hearts are drawn to the town.
James says that Mary has been dead for three years but he made it all up. I mean, he killed her... You think he would remember that. So him saying she's been dead for three years doesn't mean anything. To prove it even more, Laura received a letter from Mary that ended with her wishing Laura a happy 8th birthday. James then asks Laura how old she is and she replies, "I turned eight last week." That right there proves Mary died less than a week before the events of the game began.
Well, yeah. The "three years" figure came from the doctor's prognosis of how long she had to live; James deluded himself into believing she'd actually been dead for that long.
What James means by ”a long three years” is most likely how long Mary suffered until James killed her. That is why he says that to the illusion of Mary he meets on the roof.
@@fowreeeeeeeel Yes, that's exactly it. And another way to look at it is that, to James, Mary basically died when she first got sick. That was the beginning of the end. Also, I think my original comment was actually a reply to someone else, but I guess because it's so old, UA-cam doesn't recognise it as one anymore. Interesting, lol.
@@Rilumai Another thing about the Maria ending, for a split second you can see James eyes look down when he talks to Maria about how he wants Maria. Since James defeated the pyramids he doesn’t feel guilt nor desire for punishment, i think James is lying to himself in the ending, he is so desperate to be with Mary that he accepts Maria, but we can clearly tell he sees her as lesser, as an emotional punching bag. People say James is replacing Mary with Maria, when he clearly does not care about Maria at all in the ending, she is lesser. You can tell by the hate and anger in his delivery of ”you’d better do something about that cough”
James has no sympathy, merely expressing his frustration and sadness about Mary’s passing on the person who he knows only exists to lure him, and he hates her for it (Maria) The ending is not about James being selfish, it is about him releasing his anger on the towns attempt to replace his Mary, James simply sees Maria as a pet he can abandon any time, he takes Maria with him to vent his anger as a part of his grieving process.
I think, in a sense, Maria IS Silent Hill. She is an incarnation of the entity over the town, ready to punish James over, and over, and over again.
Sounds accurate as theory. I've never thought about it
I like to think of this as one of the bad endings. James succumbs to the town's copy of Mary thus never really moving on.
This ending is the only way out for Maria, a woman who has self
awareness, feelings and consiousness, like any other human being, a fact
that most people overlook totally, completely..! Even though the game
provides you with "born from a wish" , JUST IN CASE you didnt realise
that Maria is not just a test subject just for James to pass and then proceed
and drown himself in the lake....!!
Maria isnt real
@@Kreamations She’s a demon she shapeshifts and she has more than 7 lives. Also the reason the town chose a reincarnation of Mary, “Maria” was to punish James and remind him of what he did to his wife. Maria exists to psychologically torture James.
@basedlander7836Her side story is literally called "Born From a Wish," she's not real bro
@@BBoy4040that same side story makes it clear that she had self awareness and feelings, though. Performing tasks for Ernest, someone completely unrelated to James, while also contemplating her own existence until a dread realization that makes she point a gun to her own head, is something no mindless hallucination would do.
That being said, these facts elevate the bleakness and sadness of the base story to an entire new level. Imagine waking up alone in a desolate hellscape only to realize this nightmare also happens to be a dead end.
Do you realize that this ending is the worst, because when James says ''You'd better do something about that cough.'' he is hinting that he would kill again ?
the last 4 seconds made this a bad ending
after getting that ending in the remake i had to watch this again, but the way he says it is indeed sinister, i remembered it way more compassionate
there´s no doubt in the remake that he means ´i will kill you too´
I always had this theory that in the Maria ending, James is stuck in the Fog World
Since well, considering that the ending is implying that Maria will get sick and James will live the same cycle again and again, then the town decides to punish him by trapping him in the Fog World, making him re-live the same experience again and again until he either decides to get redemption (Leave) or decides to face the consequences of his actions (In Water)
That would explain why in SH4 it says that James disappeared in Silent Hill
@AquaCrescent you must protect Maria very well, and spend as much time as you can with her. at the hospital, you must go through every floor with her before leaving her in the room where she stays. BUT you have to go visit her many times... of course, you don't have to take all the 5 objects from the "rebirth ending" (to not obtaining it!). as well with the rest of the endings!!! good luck!!!
Coolest, darkest ending of the game.
“Konami honey, did something happen to you?
After you and Hideo Kojima stopped making silent hills?
You were always so forgetful. Remember that time you could actually sell games?”
Pretty much. Also notice how Maria started coughing in the end. That whould inply that all the terrible things that happened with Mary are just going to repeat with Maria and either James' sorrow will lead him to his end or the experiences of this game will just continue to loop in his denial.
To many this whould seem to be the next best ending of the game but to me this one's the worst. It's better for him to just end it in suicide rather than slowly drift into madness and live in torture.
I played through this game again today, for about the 20th time. Now it seems like Konami knew about Covid-19 since 2001.
i think it will all starts again, he just get into loop. sad ;]
Through my 2021 eyes, I look at the Maria ending differently.
This is gonna sound weird but I think it can be interpreted as the healthiest ending. Indulge me here.
What if Maria was not born from James's wish, what if she wash born out of Mary's wish?
Maybe while struggling with her disease, seeing how unattractive it's made her, and how sexually frustrated SHE was, while witnessing James going out and about cheating on her, she thought: If I were to have a do over, I'd wear what I want, have sex with whomever I want, say exactly what's on my mind, and do whatever I wanted to do.
She likes Silent Hill, so it's no wonder that it would be her choice of home.
Maria behaves exactly like that, but she's not a bad person really.
James views anything sexual as grotesque, all of his desires very much included. So it's possible that although he wishes Mary was more sexed up that's something he would view as a bad and ugly thing, so Maria isn't his imagination's creation.
She's born from a wish, but the game doesn't specifically sate it's his wish. She's very forward about being scared of being left alone, something that makes James feel bad, so Mary wouldn't speak up about it.
He obviously feels like he was getting a chance for "do over" if he chooses to, so that might be the case for her as well.
Mary lived her life to please James, catering to his insecurities, never daring to look attractive enough to make him "work hard for it" or "fear that he may lose her".
She was a Madonna through and through. People like that are often the way they are because they're more so molded by other's expectations and a need to please them rather than living their lives for themselves.
Maybe she regretted doing that. There's irony in the fact that Maria constantly gets killed by the pyramid head, partly a manifestation of James's libido which she probably was tormented by during her illness. Freedom to do whatever she wants is something she could have had if she just wasn't such a darn "good girl".
Maria is an amalgamation of the Madonna and the whore, more like a real multifaceted person rather than a stereotype, and is probably the real Mary. Except now, she's out for herself; even when she's seducing James it's hard not to think that she's doing it FOR HER. She wants to "get on that", she also scolds him for leaving her alone and kinda calls him a wuss. It's not necessarily about James's insecurities, it might be more about her saying what's on her mind and not thinking "Oh my gosh I'd be such a bad wifey if I did it". She had a very limiting existence just so that she could live up to that ideal version of a wife he had, which is ironically ultimately not what he really wanted, he's just ashamed of what he really wanted.
James obviously thinks of his wife as a Madonna, even associates her with the virgin Mary. And while he has vividly depicted undisclosed sexual desires, seems like he views his wife in higher regard because he doesn't think she could possibly have the same urges he has.
Putting someone on a pedestal like that is unhealthy for both parties and their relationship.
If he ends up walking out with Maria it means that they both stop lying to themselves and abide by society's definitions of a "married couple".
She is just as sexually charged as he is, she likes wearing short skirts and putting on makeup (It makes her feel sexy and powerful). And he likes to be with a more realistic person who admittedly might be a little harder to maintain, and harder to please, but won't make him feel like a disgusting person and an unworthy partner for desiring sex and a sexy partner as much as he does.
He also starts saying what's on his mind rather than repressing, "Hey, your cough makes me uneasy, you should see someone about it". Not "Oh sweaty, it's okay I like it when you're sick because then I can take care of you", because GOD FORBID they both tell eachother the truth when it's unpleasant.
They'll fight slot, perhaps even fall out of love with eachother and get divorced maybe. Or stay together and have a more fulfilling relationship because they chose to finally bring the real them into the relationship. Either way, it's the better thing to do.
So yeah, this could all have no point and is entirely in my head, it's just that I view the relationship between James and Mary differently in 2021 than the way I did years ago.
It's not healthy being a lovey dovey perfect couple because it's simply not the truth.
Edit: And I guess the pyramid head being after her with gusto could be James's subconscious not able to reconcile with the idea that Mary can be a whore, not a Madonna.
I've always wondered what illness did Mary have?
Do better dude/sis.
If you cannot tell maria is the female pyramid head you have a problem. Shes a psychological villan.just like men blame sex addiction (pyramid head) women blame pick mes (marias) "id never yell at you!why dont you want me"..."because youre not her" just as a mans fear is not being manly enough pyramid head...a womans fear is a man being seduced by a pick me when times get hard
And when he says you better do something about that cough, its like telling a woman she better not gain weight.or hes out.Undertones of abuse and superficial lust not love. This is not a new start,hes a villan
Well, this ending is about James sucumbing to his most basic feelings and instincts. And even at the begining of the game, James doesn't really like the way Maria tries to seduce him. So, it wouldn't be hard to believe that Maria is actually Mary, in a way, also giving in to her most basic, honest instincts. It's still a villainous ending though.
@@mhz163 ligma
Isn't this strange how this is the only ending which the final boss is not maria, but actually Mary.
This was the first ending I got when I played this.
ラグナロク9900 You must have really cared about Maria cause that’s how you get this ending
@@aidanmercer9422 he loved her more than James lmaoo
Same, just finished the game yesterday and got the Maria ending
Random Procrastinator Theory Time!
After watching the Rebirth ending after so many years...I think that with Silent Hill the way it is, that the Maria ending happens after the Rebirth ending in a timeline that was created by James's ritual to revive his dead wife. It's entirely possible, as Silent Hill has shown time and time again to have magical properties that could deny or defy death entirely. Maria could be the reborn Mary, but if she was reborn into a different time as Maria, James's suicide in In Water could have happened just after the event in Rebirth.
So...here's a basic rundown:
-James Collects objects (Towards Rebirth End)
-James drives to lakeside and possibly a boat spotted on his way to the resort-thing (In Water End)
-Takes the boat and rows into the middle of the lake to perform the resurrection ritual
-Mary is reborn as Maria in another timeline, and wakes up a few hours before meeting James for the 'first' time (Born from a Wish)
-James in the Rebirth timeline does not see his wife resurrected, and thus commits suicide...going into the In Water end
-????
At some point, Maria could be created by his imagination, could be a rando-stripper who was repurposed for this role due to Silent Hill being the way it is, or could be a real person. I suppose that if James left Silent Hill with Maria, and it wasn't like the ending of the crappy first movie, then it is possible what I proposed up above.
All things possible in Silent Hill.
:P
This is great, makes me think of the Drakengard 1 endings branching out into different games with alternate timelines.
God, this is perfect. Reminds me of Source Code.
WROOOOOOOONG
Pretty sure the water ending is the ending that is the most canon. In all the other ending he leaves silent hill. But in both sh3 and 4 there are references of him disappearing.
to be fair it would make sense for james to want to disappear after killing somebody
so basically, shouldn't this be the bad ending? self endulging in fantasies, and refusing to acknowledge what he did to mary means he's in denial.
Look at his eyes when he says "I have you".
We have hard times.. But we have to pick what's right for us.
Based on the letter she wrote and the fact that James commits suicide in the other ending, this would be a good ending if it wasn't for that cough at the end
"James, do you really think I could ever forgive you for what you did?" "err..I hope a bit.."
But James got a letter that starts to vanish in the last part of the game, once you get the lakeview hotel the letter is blank, later is only an empty envelope and later there is no envelope, when I noticed it, it was kinda scary.
The real letter is kept by Mary/Maria, really weird because it only proves they are one and the same. Leave ending along with in water ending: dying Mary gives James that letter. Maria ending, Maria gives James Mary's letter. Odd.
"You better do something about that cough... or I will." *ominously equips pillow*
Mary straight up had the coronavirus
So James is basically in somewhat of a loop in this ending? Like anytime he doesn't learn, he gets a new women who dies like his wife and it repeats?
SOMEONE PLZ TELL ME THE MUSIC AT 8:40
And then he went to work at rooster teeth........,
Wait a minute....
Either way she always freakout and turn into this monster. I was like "yeah there she go again" lol
María carries the same desease as Mary?
Maybe is the town that punish James from his sins, repeating the cycle of his wife's sickness, but now with María.
I think this is the best Silent Hill... the story and the meaning of the monsters, everything!!! makes you think if that really happened or it was only on his mind... things like examining Mary's letter just before the fighting against her, and the letter seems empty... because James gets "face to face" with her, and at the final of his way he has realized of what really happened with Mary... makes you think like that letter never existed in first place!!! that it was just an illusion of James..
after all , the letter finally disappears altogether before final boss
This would make "In Water" canon as well. It is also hinted at in later games that James disappeared after arriving at Silent Hill.
James would have had gotten the letter immediately after her death because Rachael was told to do so as soon as she died. She wouldn't have waited a whole three years to give it to him. It took three years for her to get sick and depend on him whole-heartedly. "It was a long three years." To James, the Mary he fell in love with died three years ago. I.E "Maria" died
Oh I'm very late to the party but Mary was never officially dead so Rachel technically never gave him the letter. When James meet her in the hotel, Laura says she losts one of the two letters she got from Mary. I think she stole both letters from Rachel when escaping the hospital; the second letter is the one Mary wrote to James. And the game ends when James finds it, therefore shattering his belief that Mary is still alive in Silent Hill. The letter he has at the beginning is probably just something that Silent Hill materializes along with Maria to lure in him. It is backed by the fact that the letter disappears from the inventory before the final boss fight: James is realizing it was all a delusion, therefore he doesn't need the fake letter anymore.
There's no canon ending, and nobody cares what _SH4_ said. Stop with that shit.
I’ve always fantasised that Maria was once a real person and that James was dating her in secret while Mary was in her early stages of being ill and that it was just a cop out for James to be using Maria in a way to make him forget his crimes and throwing away his old life for a new one with her. If this theory is true, then there’s a possibility that this is the canon ending.
I feel like Maria alludes to James spending a lot of time at the strip-club, maybe he became infatuated with a dancer while Mary was dying? The implication seems to be that James' begins to replace Mary way before she died, perhaps even before she got sick.
Great ending
@9:18 Saw this ending ten years ago and I still find that line creepy.
The only ending I haven't been able to get.
This ending is terrifying and here's why.
Maria is obviously sick like Mary and she will die (4th time?). Or James, as he killed before, will kill Maria. There is a possibility he will go to SH again and repeat the same circle. But there is also a possibility that he won't return. And that is scary. There is the story of Walter Sullivan in the game and the parallel between him and James. I think James most likely will go raping and killing women that might look like Mary or Maria. In general, maniacs look very bland and ordinary like James. Women usually don't see them as a threat. So, I guess, this is the most terrifying ending in the best way possible. Bravo Team Silent!
The purpose of the article about Walter Sullivan in this game is only meant to foreshadow James's first encounter with Pyramid head, as Silent Hill 3 was created years later and the character (Walter) hasn't been created yet. Sorry, not trying to say your opinion is wrong, just want to correct the part about Walter's existence in this game
@@fajarfarrel932 Actually, that's not true: Walter is mentioned in a note in Silent Hill 2
James´s family when they saw him back, talking to nobody: 👁👄👁
This is as close one can get to a "BAD" ending in SH2.
It's still good in my opinion...if they left the last few seconds out then it would be even better
@@sunnycherylxx i can't agree. James basically refused to move on and decided to attach himself to an illusion; a delusion of his own desires. I cannot accept that as good.
@@erikkumitsubashi1048 that's true, I guess I just like it because we get to see Maria "alive" because she's one of my favorite characters
Promise
frightening... I think about this ending TOO much
It's been haunting me for years, no joke. This game did something to me LOL
Wow, so the town beats James in this ending?
What's the name of the song???
Mary died less than a week before the events of the game... Because James killed her. Also, Maria isn't real. He made her all up to torment him for murdering his wife. She's also more beautiful than Mary because of James' sexual frustration... There are rumors that James even stuffed Mary's body into the trunk of his car which you can see at the beginning of the game. Masahiro Ito, the art director of the game, said he believed that Mary's body was actually on the back seat...
I read a comment earlier on another video that this ending supposedly has dialogue from SH4?
in the dlc "born from a wish" is ernest james mind and the open door at the end the fact that he accepts the creation of the figure of Maria? and so he meets her after in the main story?
then 3 years later..
"Don't make excuses, James *cough*"
That cough...! It's a so powerful and yet so simple way to reveal this last meeting was actually Mary instead of Maria.
It makes an exquisit logic of how the Town tries to punsih James no matter what: In Water and Leave Ending as a final attemp to seduce him to this "improved" version on Mary; and Maria Ending as a last punishment to James' non-guilty stand over his crime, through Mary's late grudge. Brilliant!
The Maria ending was also glitchy in my PS2 version. The first time I got it, my console crashed and I it deleted my data. Also one or two times I got it again the flashlight was on, just like in the PC version glitch. Guess it was from the original programming in the end.
True, true. It was their fault for using an unfinished source code and Hijinx didn't wanna take two years to make an HD game properly.
We better try to see the good in the bad, I see this ending as a second chance not to be happy but to do the right thing, to let go the woman he loves and confort her until her last breath. To me Maria is Mary and she was cursed, no matter how many times she is murdered, she will come back unless her illnes takes her life for good.
Oh look! There is the Eddie-mobile!
My dude got a tulpa and everything, damn.
Name of the song that starts at 2:05 please ?
Does anyone know the song that plays at 8:40?
To get this ending can maria take damage from the chase with pyramid head ?
No
On easiest yes she can. Don't know about the other.
Its a big World.
I love this ending. Happy-ish ending lol.
epic game !:)
considering Mary's letter, James must not have been that bad of a person.
@Will G Suicide is a unforgivable sin,i prefer Leave Ending because it's the best he move on with Mary and Maria and he killed Mary out of pity she was slowly dying that don't make him a murderer he also killed Eddie in self-defense!
@@naotenhopoliticodeestimaca7934 He killed Angela also If you want to be honest about it.
James isn't bad, he's flawed. You gotta remember, he came to Silent Hill instead of simply embracing his new-found liberty, forgetting about Mary and moving on. The entire story is about James' reconciling with his guilt. I can't see James as anything other than a forlorn survivor if he decides to 'leave' Silent Hill, however upon choosing Maria in this ending and instead shedding his guilt, he simply resigns himself to lowly beasthood IMO.
the last line of her saying
"you made me happy"
always bums me out and gives me a lump in my throat.
Sam Raimi (version)
Silent Hill 5 : Inner Fears
Universal Pictures
Konami
Davis Films
Lionsgate Productions Inc.
CJ Da Silva's ''...I was weak..therefore I had to be punished before my sins.''
Michael Basset
Christophe Gans
Samuel Hadiyda(ramsete1987)c/oDCIT
directed by : Pang Brothers
Maria/Cheryl Mason
CJ Da'Silva(Alex Shepherd)
The game : 😊
The player : 😭😭😭
Can you still get this ending without going to wright direction that Maria said to you?
apparantly so, but I haven't tested that.
I am reading comments and one question comes to my mind. Why are you people so sure, that James didn't learn anything and will kill Maria like he killed Mary?
The implication of Maria's cough, and his tone. Also the fact that Maria exists as a distraction that James must overcome, and yet he embraces fantasy instead of reconciling his mistakes with Mary.
Best ending, Maria deserves it
Lol deserves what? To die?? cause that's what's about to happen 😂
someone tell me what the song is called please
"Promise".
Restless dreams. Promise isn't played at all during this. At least not till the credits show up.
jmemakaveli90 Darude - Sandstorm
Was just playing for this ending in a strange twist got the in water ending if I'd of known what was gonna happen id of told my mum to hide the razors and the rope
james.....dont do it!!!
This is not at all a happy ending when you really think about it. It might actually be the most tragic.
Mary Maria i take noght them
1/5/2010
I just wanted to see this ending on youtube because, based on how much I hated maria in this game, I would've never earned this ending myself.
only ending i haven't got now =\
6:30 thank me later