BJJ Self-Defense Course | Lesson 28: Two Hand Choke Escape

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  • @brandtlapko1963
    @brandtlapko1963 11 місяців тому +2

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  • @ninpowarrior
    @ninpowarrior 3 роки тому +1

    Awesome. Tks for sharing this amazing Course

  • @gailvalleymartialarts
    @gailvalleymartialarts 16 днів тому

    This is one of the classics but I really don't like it. I see many issues with it:
    1) Like you pointed out, if the attacker holds their hands straight out, it won't work. (I don't think you will be able to walk away like you suggested, because the attacker is likely to move forward while doing the move, or press you against a wall).
    2) It also won't work if they angle their arms a little, with their elbows together. I think this would be the most common way to do it.
    3) I don't think you'll be able to generate a lot of force with your throat or your adams apple. Yes you can use your entire body against the attacker's hands/thumbs, but you are leading with your throat and/or adams apple. These things are even weaker than thumbs.
    4) I don't think it makes sense to learn multiple defenses for slight variations, if the same defense could work for all the variations of the attack (and probably work better). I like how Ryan Hoover explains this in watch?v=cNfz8aS2MSg
    I haven't looked into this much, but I wonder if many of the classic standing self-defense techniques against surprise attacks need to be critically evaluated and tested. I've seen the critique from watch?v=eSxPYL10_so and I think it raises some very valid points (don't let the video title scare you off, it's actually a very interesting video. I'd love to see your response to it)
    Don't get me wrong, I really appreciate your channel, and I think the kind of Jiu-Jitsu you are describing is excellent. But there are some techniques that somehow found their way into Jiu-Jitsu self-defense that seem like they haven't been properly evaluated and pressure tested.

  • @lilith4961
    @lilith4961 2 роки тому

    At least for when you are not against a wall this makes a whole lot of sense

    • @345kobi
      @345kobi Рік тому

      You want one or a set of moves in both in the open and against the wall. Keep it simple, you will be in panic mode, so you want to have your move built in to , what We call, muscle memory.

  • @345kobi
    @345kobi Рік тому

    The attacker is superior to you or He wouldn't have attacked you. If you escape like this now you are starting over in fight with a guy superior to you. Plus if you are against a wall, which is often the case, this won't work at all.

    • @GracieSchwarzwaldJiuJitsu
      @GracieSchwarzwaldJiuJitsu  Рік тому

      1. We always assume the attacker is superior to us. Which is why we are focused on escaping the hold rather than trying to beat up our opponent.
      2. I've escaped the hold (in the most mechanically efficient way) so now my freedom is no longer hindered. How is that the same position as when I am being choked.
      3. Yes, this wouldn't work against a wall which us why there is a separate technique for that scenario.