@ J K just an excuse for the first fake instructor to put his arm around a lovely lady ! lol yes this is much more practical not too much debate as to what's practical when your life in on the line .. imo of course be safe in your training ! !
This is the best training I’ve seen for those who are coming from nothing to something. Keeping it simple is truly the best bet. Thank you for helping others…
After how my week started this video just made it a lot better. Several of my new students came into my dojo(before they were my students) and put up quite the ego because they trained with each other using UA-cam videos before they decided to try to join my dojo. They tried to push around my White Belts until I came out of the office when I realized what happened. I remained calm and addressed them in a courteous manner(more to keep myself calm than anything else) asking them what their story was: what about martial arts interests you, why are you interested in this particular style, what do you plan on taking from what you'd learn here, why are you so confident in your ability when none of you have any form of formal training....you know the necessary questions(btw I apologize for this rant, there IS actually a point lol). After hearing them out, I thought about it and decided to see what they could really do. My style is a Japanese Jiu-Jitsu style, it's pretty combative in nature, which is why we use three different methods of sparring. One of those methods is minimal rules MMA(basically no dirty fighting techniques or anything that would cause immediate serious injury, everything else goes) I put these young men in that style of sparring and matched them up with some of my third and second Kyu students. I mean if they knew some black belt level stuff, then it should even out, right? Yeah….no....it was a massacre. These guys made all kinds of rookie mistakes, though every once in awhile they pulled off something that was actually really solid technique. One of them was a lot better than the rest of his friends, could've easily passed for actual training(I found out later that he was using an old outdated Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu black belt course instructional set of his uncle's for the majority of his training). I noticed he seemed to favor grappling, so I decided to freestyle roll with him to see how much he really knew and how he'd react under pressure, especially when dealing with techniques he was un familiar with and didn't know how to counter. Long story short he wasn't half bad, but he cracked under pressure really fast when I started using stuff that wasn't really common to Japanese or Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. My Judo/Sambo groundwork completely messed with him. We stopped rolling when it was clear he lost his drive. This guy, nineteen, fresh out of high school, and thinking he owns the world, was wrecked. Tears in his eyes, expression making it clear he felt humiliated. I almost felt bad for pushing him, but I had to assess his abilities and temperament. After all that I sat down with these guys, had all my students take a break and join us. I basically had all my students tell their own stories to these guys; like why they came to my dojo, what they had originally thought about my style before they experienced it versus their perspectives on it now, and what they took from their experiences in my classes. It was like a huge wake-up call for these young men. ANYWAY, finally to the purpose of this story, After a long talk, I decided to let these young men train in my dojo. It wasn't easy to get them to start from scratch and relearn everything from the beginning. UA-cam martial arts has made an appearance in my dojo pretty much once or twice a week for the past four months. This video is an excellent example of how people shouldn't be relying so heavily on this site for their instruction. Many of the techniques they'd learn on this site, when applied in a real world situation, often either don't work or make your situation even worse. I'm always going rounds with my newbes on this subject. I told them if they could ever beat me in a full contact freestyle spar, then I would admit I was wrong and stop pestering them over where they picked up whatever new random technique they brought to the dojo that week. Kudoes to anyone and everyone who actually took the time to read all this. Just sharing a fairly recent experience and how it relates to this video. My apologies to anyone who fell asleep half way through lol.
That is certainly true lol. I just gets me sometimes cause I remember myself at that age. Sometimes, for a life lesson to really sink in, it has to hurt. You have to really feel it to get it. We've all had life teach us some of those lessons.
This is true in a lot more fields than MA. Aside from my constant interest and on and off training in MA for the last 30yrs (8yrs solid training and the rest fitted in to the realities of working and raising kids), i'm also a chef. I find that a lot of kids think that YT will teach them enough or everything they need to know about cooking... professional cooking though, needs actual experience and cannot be learnt watching clips. In the same way, one may learn a lot about MA in YT, but combat requires proper training to be effective in.
Nice rant read the whole thing. I supplement my bjj schoolwith youtube videos but I evaluate if the instructors are shit or legit. I try the techniques and see what works. Sometimes I get gold stuff that way but from legit instructors. It can potentially be very dangerous to do dynamic body weight techniques live where you don't know the consequences. That is the main danger. But for sure you can learn a lot from legit video instruction. The other danger is people who can't distinguish legit from crap techniques. Another danger is that people will kill or injure other people by accident using legit techniques before they understand what will happen. Another problem is irresponsible people getting powerful techniques. Thanks for nice comment on this nice video. :)
I’ve been teaching Kenpo for 30 years. We practice escapes for chokes, holds, etc. Most are based at least in part on strikes. They work. But none are as effective as the Jiujitsu techniques we’ve stolen and incorporated into our teaching. Thank you for sharing your expertise.
Thats the sign of a good school. Not afraid to steal techniques. My itf school stole judo throws and juijitsu groundwork. Capoiras movements and balance and boxing. Because i quote. You will not always have room to kick. If your attacked its probably an ambush meaning they are already close. Itf is very good in a fair fight. No self defence scenario is going to be fair
It's good that you tell the public about the real world facts. I took 4 years of Gracie System Ju-Jitsu and later went to a Shorin Ryu Karate school . The instructor was going to demonstrate the Rear Naked Choke on me but when he did it I pulled back so he was on his heels. He panicked and tapped out real fast because he was going unconcious. He knew I could beat him after that.
Much better guidance than many of the videos that are out there. This is always a controversial subject. Many variables, and a situation that a receiver seldom wants to be in. Yes, much practice with professionals is the way to go, but when someone doesn’t have that, at least some guidance is better than none, or very bad guidance. Much appreciated.
My mentor in the US Army showed me similar escapes from rear naked chokes, and when I wrestled we used similar escapes for head locks. This is a very good video on defending against the rear naked choke.
Ever since I saw this video, I have been more confident in handling any situation against any bad guy or bad guys. One night I was in a really bad neighborhood, there were 5 guys all dressed in black walking behind me and getting closer. I immediately without hesitation took action and started running away from them to avoid hurting them.
Once my school friend was rear choking me...I didn’t know any defenses nor I watched any self-defense videos, but miraculously I performed your given tactics! I don’t even know how I was so smart back then, I slammed him and nailed him down twisting his arm in just inside 2 seconds or so....Wow! later he cried...😅
is it not a option to hold the wrist of the arm thats under your chin and with both of your two hands and lift your legs off the ground to force the wrist to support your entire body weight ??? their arm will fucking drop and you can possibly move into straight away breaking their arm if you have momentum behind it ?
@@likewaterjkd this is quite possibly the dumbest thing I’ve seen on here. Scenarios: 1. They are strong enough to hold you so now you’re making it easier for them to choke you since your entire body is now being suspended by your neck. 2. They are prepared for some sort of dead weight trick and crouch down as you collapse and now your on your butt and being choked. 3. You actually succeed in breaking the hold but dropped your entire body weight onto your tailbone and are stunned just long enough for your attacker to now attack you while you’re just sitting on the ground. 4. You fall forward and now you’re on your stomach while still being choked, but now they are laying on top of you.
Hard to explain. I was put in a rear necked choke at a bar once. He was a big guy. He picked me up off the ground. I extended my legs straightest on front of me as far as possible. Even at his size, roughly 100 pounds on me he still could not stay leaned back. I made him lean forward and I got down on 1 knee as we were coming down and tossed him over my right shoulder. I was then able to put him in a arm lock and put my knee in his throat. Yes I was shaking up. Practice all you can but it still doesn’t compare to a real life situation. When you train, train hard.
At 4:46, is he using the force of the leg sweep plus his hands pulling on the attacker's arm to pull himself out of the choke or is it the case that a person who is being made to fall to the floor will let go so that they can keep themselves upright??
@@RhodesRhodes I think so. Don’t try and learn to many techniques to get out of a choke hold just 1 or 2 and then keep practicing. If you try and learn to many you won’t remember them all in a fight. If you only practice 1 or 2 then it will become second nature when you are put on the spot in a real fight. I would say 9 out of 10 fights people will all ways try and put someone in a chock hold, Specially in a bar fight. I typically try and stay out of the way and let the bouncer do there job, but I have been attacked by bouncers from behind I guess because they thought I was in the fight. I’m 5’11” 168 lbs. I’m not a very big guy but I have thrown 300 lb guys over my head. It’s all about technique. If possible learn from a woman instructor if you are a small guy. I feel they are the beat teachers for small men to learn from because those woman teachers are not as strong as men and perfected the technique. I learned from men and woman. I got started late in life with MMA. Was 16 -17 years old. I was 135 lbs. the women helped me with the tosses more than the men could because the men were stronger and their technique was not perfected as well as the women. That’s just my opinion. It worked for me though. Practice on striking key points. I’m pretty quick even at 50 years old now it’s because I have practice key targets over the years and it’s all muscle memory now. I think and feel like I’m moving slow but when I spar my opponent tell me I’m fast as shittt. Most the guys I spare with are in their 20-30. I enjoy the exercise. Keeps my mind sharp. Keeps me motivated, going.
One time at bjj school I asked a fellow white belt guy to let me practice rear naked chokes on him and he became very hostile. He stopped talking to me until he saw what I meant. Funny joke though haha :)
These techniques do work. Some guy grabbed me from behind in a Pub fight & put the "choke" on me. I was able to get out of it using the step back technique exactly as demonstrated.
I don't know anything about martial arts. I been to a fights many times and best easy way to get out is just grab the balls and squeeze it hardest you can and that really 100000000% works.
5-6 seconds changes a lot in a fight or self defense which unfortunately mirror each other sometimes. Considering the speed of people and reaction times of other. A second or two can decide something like this. I agree. Train in it extensively. Know your body first and foremost. It will handle whatever comes if you train broad enough regularly. It becomes muscle memory. Not a thought but a natural reaction. No thinking or time is wasted, action vs opposite or equal reaction. Your muscles will remember this and react accordingly.
I have seen all but the chin into the arm work and fail. I studied Japanese Jiujutsu and we learned the same throws plus one of dropping to one knee and sharply twisting. The throws seemed to work best. Elbow to floating ribs works well too but you can only solidly reach it with people of a certain size.
These defenses take into consideration a person’s initial reaction to a choke. Very reasonable to use your initial reaction. Like he said, you only have 5-6 seconded before you lose consciousness. Unless you train to grab the crotch, it won’t be what you are going to do. You don’t rise to your expectations, but fall to your training.
I understand the reason for the technique basics. In most street fight scenarios this is an attempt to submit from a novice. In that stand up RNC scenario my set up as the perpetrator is a knee up into the tail bone and the RNC is a "lift" of their body up onto that knee... breaking, or crushing the hyoid bone is as much a part of the goal as any "submission." BJJ, and similar arts with a competitive, not battlefield, mindset see a carotid artery (blood flow,) or trachea (air flow,) knock out finish. Defensively one must understand the physiological dangers of the RNC to fully appreciate the danger of the move and what must be protected. From a skilled attacker it's a fairly quick, open hand sentry kill... the back elbow strike works well when it's focus is to twisting it straight back into the armpit like you want it to connect with their heart- to break the smaller ribs in that area. Broken ribs make that arm unusable.
Tucking the chin keeps you breathing by opening the airway - tensing the neck muscles Leaning forward uses "hip pivot" to 'turn' opponent over Backing up to leverage the opponent over you - still uses "hip pivot" to 'turn' opponent over The sweep (or "hook") will always come after taking control of the opponent's grapple - but the "leg hook grapple" is a tool used in taking controls (mostly before) of the opponent's grapple The "spin around" is to take controls of the opponent's grapple - with a grapple... That sets up for the "hip pivot" _ "hook" _ "spin around"
Awesome video excellent 👍 clear and cool reality explanation 🙏 sir. We are INDIANS, Andhra Pradesh state, East Godavari district. every one needs this techinic. We want more videos 💐
Techniques might work, for those in the game. For the average guy, probably not. In a fight there are many contributing factors, of which fear, startlement, maybe drugs and various degrees of intention and skill level difference of the assailant versus victim are some which come into play. The techniques shown here are realistic - as far as I can deem - but demands great deal of practice to pull off, no matter what.
Great points coach. I teach a lot of women’s self defense seminars and it’s amazing the things they think will work or were taught by people (including some martial arts schools).
You can also learn some of these in Judo, too. But I totally agree to learn these with an actual instructor. Chokes are dangerous, and the wrong choke can cause lasting damage if you don't know how to overcome it.
Actually, it's easier to throw someone taller than you in this manner, your center of gravity is below his. As a judoka, I had more trouble with short stocky guys than taller guys, had to use foot sweeps and hand techniques. Also if you can manage to turn into uke as in the final defense, his groin should be open to a strike. Not a fight finisher, but a great distraction.
I like the video. Even this defense isn't perfect because if the person manages to get his arm around your throat its over either way. but if you manage to get your chin down quickly enough you have some options and the options given in this video give you the most realistic chances of escape.
Thanks for this - you're right when atacker pulls the choke he's already pulling back - plus you're using a bigger guy than u so this also helps - tried this a few times - of course no guarantees but prolly one of the best defenses - thanks again!!
As a Wing Chun practitioner and instructor, we are taught to use contact reflexes (chi sao) to get to the opponent’s outside (blindside). I was able to use Escape 3 in a tournament in 2006. I thought I heard the referee’s whistle, so I stopped engaging and actually turned to face my corner. It turned out to be a person in the audience, so the guy put me in a choke and leaned back. I immediately tucked my chin, pulled his arm down, and turned toward his shoulder just like his technique, except I ended up accidentally tearing his shoulder. I still had the mindset that the ref blew the whistle, so I acted a little out of anger. Whoops. I love how your instruction is not just on “technique” but on the “principles” behind the technique: the “why” and not just the “what”. I believe we can all incorporate good teaching from sound systems/instructors regardless of style. I regularly train with boxers, jiu jitsu and krav practitioners. I have a prison corrections officer in my school who also trains grappling (required for his job). Absorb material, train hard, experience random attacks (stress test), enhance what works, throw away the crap that doesn’t. No egos. Keep up the great instruction! Love from my school in Philadelphia.
damn. it must take some good amount of skill for a comeback of that kind, i've been there with a tkd competition as well. i'm gonna get dissed because of taekwondo lol
Having been rendered unconscious by a "blood choke" in an actual street fight....I have carried since that day a small, very sharp knife, in the center of my back where it can be drawn with either hand. If anyone EVER takes my back and gets an arm around my neck again, I will deal with it in a very brutal fashion. ( Radial artery, brachial artery, axillary artery) then I will go for the big pipes. (Carotid and subclavian ) Never....repeat NEVER, underestimate how damn fast a properly applied rear naked strangle (compressing your carotid arteries) will cause unconsciousness.
I won't.., it's scary. I had someone I worked with walk up behind me and place me in a choke hold out of the blue, he did not apply any pressure or pull me back but I felt instantly if he did I would have been in great trouble., I didn't react, I knew I couldn't fight him he was too strong, but it scared me and made me realize how vulnerable I can be. He did it in front of three older males in the room and no one said anything, not even the one I felt closest too, I never want to be in that position again. It is something that is subconsciously constantly in the back of my mind and I don't trust man, til this day I don't know why he did it, but I believe he had a distaste or dislike of me.. I was kind of smart mouth and could be outspoken at this time, I was lost I had just got baptized and lost sight of who I was and what I wanted to become, so I did not always say or do the right things when pressure came.:) I liked him at first and I kind of wanted to date him, and he didn't take me seriously. He even left two disturbing message on my voicemail, that was vulgar, and sounded like he hated me, with sounds with a women in the background of them having sex..I don't know what was on his mind. I told my brother about him, but he is someone I hope to never encounter again or anyone like him. Anyway I'm sorry that happened to you, and I pray you continue to be blessed.
If you practice these moves enough you may become proficient enough to try them out on Ricky who's gona make you look good every time. A better defense is stay home and watch videos.
only way that I have found effective at escaping rear naked choke holds is to tuck chin,press back against attacker long enough for them to try to press forward, than drop and roll forward, they will let go or suffer sever damage as there head is smashed into the ground as u roll forward, now u must completely drop center of gravity as u roll forward, and when opponent out weighs you or is stronger it is criticle to first push ur weight back against them and trigger there natural response to push back thus using there strength against them, you must be clear headed and ready to drop center of gravity and roll forward immediately if u fell them trying to chock and drop back wards in able to get hooks in with legs and imobolize you, hope this helps please forgive my spelling and grammer mistakes lol
U'r Right, but for this to work, u must have some good takedown skills, like a judo practionner, remember u don't have a lot of time. For instance takedown shown in the video are wrong because requiring too much strenght, the coach needs some judo learning on top of his BJJ
There should be laws against posting misinformation on self-defense techniques. It's directly analogous to teaching so eone incorrect driving procedures. Both could wind up with someone thinking they're doing the right thing in a dangerous situation and risking their life. Top tip - for self-defense, train under someone who gas been in a real fight and does a real martial art.
It is a bit more difficult because there is no single body to determine what is correct self-defence. You would need the legislator to decide on what is good self-defence and then pass a law stating that only the techniques identified can be taught. You might end up learning Tai Chi...
The difference is in scale, as driving is something people do every day and has very high risk and huge fatality count, whereas assault and self-defense situations are extremely rare by comparison
@@bobgraham1791 That's why evidence-based approaches are so important; instead of relying on an authority we look towards the science. Granted combat sports like MMA aren't perfect "experiments" to a real fight but it's the closest thing we have; generally if it were any other field of study people would agree to work with imperfect evidence instead of throwing it all in the garbage and relying on blind faith in untested techniques, yet for some reason that's exactly what happens constantly in some martial arts circles.
The problem with focusing so much attention to grappling, is your mind adapts to counteracting locks with escapes, as opposed to causing maximum damage to soft tissue areas of the body. I'm a bodyguard for 12 years now and I've tried several actions and reactions in different real-world situations. Focusing on grappling or taking someone to the floor while the person is armed or there are multiple men or women working together for a malicious purpose or sadistic cause, is one of the most dangerous situations you could place yourself in. Yes, you will subdue the one person you're focused on counteracting, but the overall outcome will be devastating to you. Your environment and your given situation plays a massive role in what you should do versus what you were trained to do. Traditional martial arts has a strong foundation in my life but the street taught me what can be done and is nothing but marketed bullshit and i have the scars to prove it. Even as a cage fighter, i thought the octagon represented a place for no nonsense fighters to display real combat techniques and jiu jitsu certainly has it's place there but we forget that is still a controlled environment. On the street, in bars, moving through extremely dangerous regions and remote areas, focusing so much on choking, joint locks and ground work, will get you killed. You dont have to like what I'm saying, but it doesn't change the fact that it's the truth.
@@offdazaza2769 Actually my training at SABA is where i earned my competency. The streets of South Africa, in gelvan, helenvale, extensions and townships taught me what does and doesn't work when gang members and turf mongrels want to kill you for your phone or the change in your pocket. But thanks for the comment anyway. I appreciate the feedback
@@gerardleroux5784 its different, if some retard lunges at you, you could easily beat him with almost any martial art, yet if 4 people with switchblades come at you, it flies out the window and its all about survival
@@offdazaza2769 that's exactly what I've been saying Adrian. Focusing too much on developing your grappling skills will get you killed. Every type of fight we're in, requires a different set of skills and therefore you need to adapt to the given situation. Martial arts or any other systems of combat are only there for you to develop coordination and muscle memory to be better equipped at diffusing violent behaviour aimed at you. It does not guarantee a favourable outcome but through practice, you increase your chances of survival. To develop a skill set in one system of combat alone, is detrimental to your survival and you should rather focus on developing in an array of fields, including striking from boxing, power development in kicking from muay thai, etc. And then sparring everyday, with people of different shapes, sizes and strong points. Outside the cage, you need to get involved in advanced firearm training (tactical shooting), learn how to use your environment and clothing items to survive a knife fight (or panga-weapon attack like here in our modern jungle) by getting involved in Krav Maga or some military training. This whole thing of pursuing your black belt in one martial art or one system is outdated! You need to get involved in so much more to come out victorious, both inside and outside the ring.
@@offdazaza2769 as my tae wondo grand master loves to say he would rather not hav any training at all yet keep a cool head then know all these fancy self defense techniques and kicks yet freak out under pressure
The first problem is being in a position where your opponent can grab you in a rear naked choke. So 1: try to avoid being in that position. Tucking the chin in will help only if you are fast enough to get it in between his arm and your neck. As soon as the arm slips under it's basically game over, so you do not have 4 seconds, more likely 2 max, so even if you do you you already need to be moving. The variation of ippon seoi nage (the shoulder throw) is extremely unlikely to work, I would definitely not rely on that. Your turning outwards might. I understand you kept the speed down in order to demonstrate the technique, but you should show it full speed with a serious attack as well. And your version of that outward turn and trip was...let's say friendly.
Really liked the modest and humble way Sensei debunked those absurd and dangerous "self defense" techniques.👍 Those are good proven defenses found in almost all Judo, Jiu-Jitsu, Ju-Jitsu, BJJ schools.
Excellent. Finally a video with a real choke being used. At your level, i would like to see it done at full speed and aggression. Particularly when the choke is in at the neck, and the chin can't be used and you can't grip his arm. Assuming you have no karambit in each pocket ;)
When possible, push or pull first in the opposite direction of the flip, which causes the choker to lean into the flip, helping you to flip him. In high school a friend who was taking judo spent 20 minutes teaching me a couple of throws. A year later a guy much bigger than me started a fight and I used one of those moves to put him down twice. This stuff definitely works on untrained attackers, and if perfectly executed, can work on trained attackers.
Good stuff. Glad you showed people those non effective techniques. Sadly many videos out there like that. People have to be very careful learning the wrong methods of self defence. You need years and years of practice before you master the art of self defence. Training your mind and body from inside out. Once you are capable of defending your self effectively. Then you you start showing people how to defend them selfs. Hope those people who did those 2 videos will see their poor and dangerous self harming techniques.
Grabbing the attacker's arm is not only the best defense, it's also the most instinctive, and instead of building upon this instinct, they try to untrain it and replace it with low success techniques. And good luck significantly hurting someone's feet when they are actually wearing shoes.
Its not HORRIBLE in principle. The Stomping on the foot. Just really bad for the rear naked Choke. if it was a Bear hug or grab around the waist from behind it is worth a shot since it is right in line. And if your gonna do it you gotta REALLY do it. No step. you lift your leg up and stomp with ALL you got. A few times. And maybe try to head but them in the nose or face if you can with the back of your head. The Stomp does not have a Super high effective rate. Steel toes. Or fairly good boots or just some one really focused or hyped up on drugs could shrug it off. But its mostly about interrupting the attack. Not flat out stopping it. And its easy. Fast and worth trying. If you interrupt the attack. I.E. Get the grip to lossen. Or get them to lean forward a little or just get them to pause. You can procced with something else. Or just Buy time while you scream your head off for help. In a survival Situation you use what you got. And it is a Cliche because it CAN work. JUST not so great for rear naked choke.
The elbow defenses can work, I’ve used em, and knocked the shit out of a guy. I’ve been in a lot of real fights, tournaments, studied both striking and grappling arts. My experience, the average person cannot take a hit. Throws are great too, but takes a long time to get those techniques correct. Not everyone has the patience to learn them, either.
I agree. The elbow strikes (shown) are great distractions to set up throws. The other “self defense” techniques shown before that were BS, and the way the lady didn’t follow up with an actual technique beyond striking was silly. I do think the BJJ work (I play Judo and BJJ) but they would work better with strike. Be honest Professor, you weren’t really striking your blue belt.
*GREAT VIDEO. AWESOME TECHNIQUES, THAT OTHER MA CHANNELS ON YT DON'T USE IN DEFENSE OF A CHOKE. SADLY I LEARNED TO FIGHT ON THE STREETS OF DALLAS TX GROWING UP 80'S AND 90'S. FIGHTING BIGGER OR MULTIPLE ATTACKERS WAS A NORMAL EXPERIENCE FOR ME, SO I HAD TO LEARN THE HARD WAY TO DEFEND MYSELF. SELF DEFENSE IS A EVER LEARNING SKILL.*👍💪
if you don't see it coming you can't tuck your chin. Fighting you've got about 5 seconds of air supply, the more energy you exert the less air you have so you want to get out of this as quick as possible, no time to think. The best defense is to drop your weight or jump up to let gravity pull you to the ground, loosen the hold.
Exactly, why bother standing up? If someone wants to hug you like that from behind, why not just relax all your muscles and fall to the ground? The guy wont be able to hold you.
How do you defend a rear choke when they jump on your back wrapping their legs around your waist? no one is showing that in any the rear choke defense videos. Is it undefendable?
wrapping their legs around your waist? For sport/competition application (if the cross their ankles) lower them on their back cross your ankles on top of theirs and press down getting an ankle lock. This is why you only see pro fighters "hooks in" or body lock.
Ideally you never want to give up your back to an opponent, because they can go anywhere from the back and you have no clue what to expect. But thats not always an option, but you'll feel the intended choking arm let you go and you want to slip to the side of the arm or make sure you have full wrist control when they have that lock on you because they are weak with their arms extended while yours are tucked in. Its better to take a suplex and have the wind knocked out of you than to get caught it a choke
Of course there are defenses when your back is taken. They are more complex and involve many more steps than just escaping an RNC from standing though. Why are some of you talking about "crossed feet"? The OP said NOTHING about "crossed feet", only "legs around the waist". I read that as more of a body triangle situation than "crossed feet". And if you "know" the defense for "crossed feet" you should also know that it is NOT the same defense and is actually EVEN more complex than "hooks in".
Good to see some real Jiu-Jitsu guides out there. If a dude really knows how to choke, your chances of getting out of it alone are slim. A trained choker won't stay on his feet for long (I personally like to jump and scissor the chest of my opponent with my legs). Someone strong enough doesn't really have to rely on reaching your neck too, he will most likely take you out even if he caught your chin
Good stuff gentlemen. I have a concern about #3. If the guy knows what he's doing and has a solid lock on you it may be difficult to break that grip or slip it.
To be fair to the first technique, you were digging your chin into the forearm while in the referenced video the defender dug her chin into the crook of the elbow. Not sure how much more effective it would be, but I'm sure the middle of the forearm can take more pressure than the crook of the elbow. Your technique that you offered as an alternative was still superior though.
You have a few seconds if you are an experienced fighter or if your attacker is inexperienced. If those conditions are reversed, a rear naked choke could be instantly debilitating.
have had to actually use these deffense moves they do work so well they have no idea how the heck its do able, learned rule number one never let anyone get behind you your blindzone then your asking for trouble so rule one never let your back be a target, rule two practice till your body can just react to it if you need it.
Both of them were fake. It was like a bad household product commercial where the housewife smiles likes a jack o lantern while gesturing at the product. There is no way her chin would hurt someone his size (or smaller) enough to make them release. All they have to do is squeeze harder.
Thank you kindly for showing us these Amazing techniques...I'm always looking for ways to teach myself and my daughters self defence and ways to stay safe. 🙏🏼😊
I LOVE THIS VIDEO. My arguments ALWAYS. I am a Self Defense Coach at a local High School in Chicago, and also I train in many different arts, my 4 year old nephew in BJJ and also training in different arts as well. My husband has a Black Belt in Aikedo and also training in many different arts including KESYI and SPEAR System. You can see some of his videos on UA-cam. Many people teaches to hit the middle or they will say stomp the feet. It is DIFFICULT when you can't reach it or for someone that is the average Joe being ambushed from the rear. I am 5 feet so ALOT of people is taller than me. Of course my NATURAL reaction is to do the throw, but I teach to get the airway open and dropping the weight at the same time. To try to get the attacker off balance to escape. Thank You for making this video and I will be using this video in my class to show them the REALISTIC in a rear choke. Sharon Muhammad
I pressure tested this against a 250 lb MMA fighter and the airway opening simply did not work. No matter what I tried his arms would not budge and I wasted valuable time trying to drag his arm down. Even dropping my body weight was useless and am about 190lbs.
It's BJJ (Brazilian Jiu Jitsu) and is used by every MMA fighter in every competition on the Planet Earth,it was invented by the Gracie family and this is one of their black belts if you think that you know or can do better please invent your own Martial Art like they did.Then publicise it around the world and get every single professional MMA fighter to use it 24/7 in every aspect of training and competitive fighting and only then can you comment and expect anyone to listen to you!
I read an article a few days ago that said they were going to pass a law in Virginia that would make it illegal to teach martial arts. Sounded nuts to me but then most politicians are nuts.
I hope you are right but never underestimate the depths of depravity of politicians who would deny your right to self defense while they are protected by armed guards and the gates they live behind.
@The Basics Gracie Jiu-Jitsu Leesburg, Virginia What about being choked this way but while on the floor, both people on their backs? How do you get out of that?
I suggest To do as he said and start taking a BJJ class OR You have to be strong and have great reflexes at MINIMUM to get out of a RNC or your going out.
One more point, when you lower your chin and use your hands to pull his choke hand, open your mouth and bite his forearm as strong as you ever can.. don't leave keep biting till he bleed and you cut his artery vein.. remember jaws have brutal bite force.. with canine teeth piercing his skin, the offender will try to take his forearm from you.. that's when the same hand will have his fingers loosen, use both your hands and break anyone finger bone completely.. the offender cannot use his 1 hand even to touch you because of fracture in bone.. then you run.. report to police.. if police catch him, they find your bite mark in his forearm and arrest him easily..
also biting a arterie out in 5-8 seconds is hard enough not counting your windpipe getting crushed so if you open jaw 2-3 seconds before your windpipe is destroyed
I once got out the attempted (never let them lock you) rear choke of a school bully (not a professional fighter) by instantly shifting my bottom and backfisting his groin.
It’s easy to pick apart a defence when the defence that is being taught never went through any trial and error by the instuctor . Self defence techniques must be practiced over many years many repetitions meaning many tens of thousands of times of trying the technique under many different circumstances . Any technique can fail without this process. There are techniques which are well thought out and have a much higher degree of working because the principles and movements are anatomically sound , and the targets and weapons used were well thought out. The important thing when you are teaching self defence techniques to untrained people is to give them something simple, and effective, so they can get away from a threat as quickly and easily as possible.
Those were some nominees for worst fake self-defense instructors. Glad you called them out.
@ J K just an excuse for the first fake instructor to put his arm around a lovely lady ! lol yes this is much more practical not too much debate as to what's practical when your life in on the line .. imo of course be safe in your training ! !
This is the best training I’ve seen for those who are coming from nothing to something. Keeping it simple is truly the best bet. Thank you for helping others…
After how my week started this video just made it a lot better. Several of my new students came into my dojo(before they were my students) and put up quite the ego because they trained with each other using UA-cam videos before they decided to try to join my dojo. They tried to push around my White Belts until I came out of the office when I realized what happened. I remained calm and addressed them in a courteous manner(more to keep myself calm than anything else) asking them what their story was: what about martial arts interests you, why are you interested in this particular style, what do you plan on taking from what you'd learn here, why are you so confident in your ability when none of you have any form of formal training....you know the necessary questions(btw I apologize for this rant, there IS actually a point lol). After hearing them out, I thought about it and decided to see what they could really do. My style is a Japanese Jiu-Jitsu style, it's pretty combative in nature, which is why we use three different methods of sparring. One of those methods is minimal rules MMA(basically no dirty fighting techniques or anything that would cause immediate serious injury, everything else goes) I put these young men in that style of sparring and matched them up with some of my third and second Kyu students. I mean if they knew some black belt level stuff, then it should even out, right? Yeah….no....it was a massacre. These guys made all kinds of rookie mistakes, though every once in awhile they pulled off something that was actually really solid technique. One of them was a lot better than the rest of his friends, could've easily passed for actual training(I found out later that he was using an old outdated Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu black belt course instructional set of his uncle's for the majority of his training). I noticed he seemed to favor grappling, so I decided to freestyle roll with him to see how much he really knew and how he'd react under pressure, especially when dealing with techniques he was un familiar with and didn't know how to counter. Long story short he wasn't half bad, but he cracked under pressure really fast when I started using stuff that wasn't really common to Japanese or Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. My Judo/Sambo groundwork completely messed with him. We stopped rolling when it was clear he lost his drive. This guy, nineteen, fresh out of high school, and thinking he owns the world, was wrecked. Tears in his eyes, expression making it clear he felt humiliated. I almost felt bad for pushing him, but I had to assess his abilities and temperament. After all that I sat down with these guys, had all my students take a break and join us. I basically had all my students tell their own stories to these guys; like why they came to my dojo, what they had originally thought about my style before they experienced it versus their perspectives on it now, and what they took from their experiences in my classes. It was like a huge wake-up call for these young men. ANYWAY, finally to the purpose of this story, After a long talk, I decided to let these young men train in my dojo. It wasn't easy to get them to start from scratch and relearn everything from the beginning. UA-cam martial arts has made an appearance in my dojo pretty much once or twice a week for the past four months. This video is an excellent example of how people shouldn't be relying so heavily on this site for their instruction. Many of the techniques they'd learn on this site, when applied in a real world situation, often either don't work or make your situation even worse. I'm always going rounds with my newbes on this subject. I told them if they could ever beat me in a full contact freestyle spar, then I would admit I was wrong and stop pestering them over where they picked up whatever new random technique they brought to the dojo that week. Kudoes to anyone and everyone who actually took the time to read all this. Just sharing a fairly recent experience and how it relates to this video. My apologies to anyone who fell asleep half way through lol.
Well younger dudes are always like wolf pups they tend to bite once and a while, but it's the job of the alpha to put them in their place 😉
That is certainly true lol. I just gets me sometimes cause I remember myself at that age. Sometimes, for a life lesson to really sink in, it has to hurt. You have to really feel it to get it. We've all had life teach us some of those lessons.
This is true in a lot more fields than MA. Aside from my constant interest and on and off training in MA for the last 30yrs (8yrs solid training and the rest fitted in to the realities of working and raising kids), i'm also a chef. I find that a lot of kids think that YT will teach them enough or everything they need to know about cooking... professional cooking though, needs actual experience and cannot be learnt watching clips. In the same way, one may learn a lot about MA in YT, but combat requires proper training to be effective in.
Nice rant read the whole thing. I supplement my bjj schoolwith youtube videos but I evaluate if the instructors are shit or legit. I try the techniques and see what works. Sometimes I get gold stuff that way but from legit instructors. It can potentially be very dangerous to do dynamic body weight techniques live where you don't know the consequences. That is the main danger. But for sure you can learn a lot from legit video instruction. The other danger is people who can't distinguish legit from crap techniques. Another danger is that people will kill or injure other people by accident using legit techniques before they understand what will happen. Another problem is irresponsible people getting powerful techniques. Thanks for nice comment on this nice video. :)
Cool story bro.
I’ve been teaching Kenpo for 30 years. We practice escapes for chokes, holds, etc. Most are based at least in part on strikes. They work. But none are as effective as the Jiujitsu techniques we’ve stolen and incorporated into our teaching. Thank you for sharing your expertise.
Thats the sign of a good school. Not afraid to steal techniques.
My itf school stole judo throws and juijitsu groundwork. Capoiras movements and balance and boxing.
Because i quote. You will not always have room to kick. If your attacked its probably an ambush meaning they are already close. Itf is very good in a fair fight. No self defence scenario is going to be fair
Haha, love it!
It's good that you tell the public about the real world facts. I took 4 years of Gracie System Ju-Jitsu and later went to a Shorin Ryu Karate school . The instructor was going to demonstrate the Rear Naked Choke on me but when he did it I pulled back so he was on his heels. He panicked and tapped out real fast because he was going unconcious. He knew I could beat him after that.
Rear chokes are deadly and most of the time used as an ambush attack. The last two defense techniques are probably the most useful imho.
Thank you for exposing some of the garbage self defense on the web.
99% of Self Defense on the Web is garbage, no matter if it is shown by Black belts or not
There’s no way a woman can get out of a choke hold from a man without snappin their own neck.
@@batteriesnotincluded4715 have you tried it? When it's tested then it's legit.
@@batteriesnotincluded4715 she can but she would need alot of training
@@batteriesnotincluded4715 use gun, problem solved
Much better guidance than many of the videos that are out there. This is always a controversial subject. Many variables, and a situation that a receiver seldom wants to be in. Yes, much practice with professionals is the way to go, but when someone doesn’t have that, at least some guidance is better than none, or very bad guidance. Much appreciated.
My mentor in the US Army showed me similar escapes from rear naked chokes, and when I wrestled we used similar escapes for head locks. This is a very good video on defending against the rear naked choke.
Ever since I saw this video, I have been more confident in handling any situation against any bad guy or bad guys.
One night I was in a really bad neighborhood, there were 5 guys all dressed in black walking behind me and getting closer. I immediately without hesitation took action and started running away from them to avoid hurting them.
Once my school friend was rear choking me...I didn’t know any defenses nor I watched any self-defense videos, but miraculously I performed your given tactics! I don’t even know how I was so smart back then, I slammed him and nailed him down twisting his arm in just inside 2 seconds or so....Wow! later he cried...😅
is it not a option to hold the wrist of the arm thats under your chin and with both of your two hands and lift your legs off the ground to force the wrist to support your entire body weight ??? their arm will fucking drop and you can possibly move into straight away breaking their arm if you have momentum behind it ?
All martial arts are natural... It just took a long time for people to understand that.
@@likewaterjkd this is quite possibly the dumbest thing I’ve seen on here.
Scenarios:
1. They are strong enough to hold you so now you’re making it easier for them to choke you since your entire body is now being suspended by your neck.
2. They are prepared for some sort of dead weight trick and crouch down as you collapse and now your on your butt and being choked.
3. You actually succeed in breaking the hold but dropped your entire body weight onto your tailbone and are stunned just long enough for your attacker to now attack you while you’re just sitting on the ground.
4. You fall forward and now you’re on your stomach while still being choked, but now they are laying on top of you.
How many martial artists does it take to change a lightbulb? 100, one to do it and 99 to tell him it will never work on the streets.
LMAO, good one!
So what you're saying is it's better to be an electrician?
Hard to explain. I was put in a rear necked choke at a bar once. He was a big guy. He picked me up off the ground. I extended my legs straightest on front of me as far as possible. Even at his size, roughly 100 pounds on me he still could not stay leaned back. I made him lean forward and I got down on 1 knee as we were coming down and tossed him over my right shoulder. I was then able to put him in a arm lock and put my knee in his throat. Yes I was shaking up. Practice all you can but it still doesn’t compare to a real life situation. When you train, train hard.
At 4:46, is he using the force of the leg sweep plus his hands pulling on the attacker's arm to pull himself out of the choke or is it the case that a person who is being made to fall to the floor will let go so that they can keep themselves upright??
@@RhodesRhodes I think so. Don’t try and learn to many techniques to get out of a choke hold just 1 or 2 and then keep practicing. If you try and learn to many you won’t remember them all in a fight. If you only practice 1 or 2 then it will become second nature when you are put on the spot in a real fight. I would say 9 out of 10 fights people will all ways try and put someone in a chock hold, Specially in a bar fight. I typically try and stay out of the way and let the bouncer do there job, but I have been attacked by bouncers from behind I guess because they thought I was in the fight. I’m 5’11” 168 lbs. I’m not a very big guy but I have thrown 300 lb guys over my head. It’s all about technique. If possible learn from a woman instructor if you are a small guy. I feel they are the beat teachers for small men to learn from because those woman teachers are not as strong as men and perfected the technique. I learned from men and woman. I got started late in life with MMA. Was 16 -17 years old. I was 135 lbs. the women helped me with the tosses more than the men could because the men were stronger and their technique was not perfected as well as the women. That’s just my opinion. It worked for me though. Practice on striking key points. I’m pretty quick even at 50 years old now it’s because I have practice key targets over the years and it’s all muscle memory now. I think and feel like I’m moving slow but when I spar my opponent tell me I’m fast as shittt. Most the guys I spare with are in their 20-30. I enjoy the exercise. Keeps my mind sharp. Keeps me motivated, going.
Thank you for showing what doesn't work. Really clear demonstration on what does work.
Most Realistic approach, unlike so many other videos out there only for Show.
Thanks
TY Marco & Ricky for this correction to help keep people safe! 😎✊
Lol the slot machine:
"Its right on my hip bone."
Attacker: "yeah, i can live w that."
I always thought rear naked chokes where actually done naked no wonder I got kicked out of class 🤦🏽♂️.
One time at bjj school I asked a fellow white belt guy to let me practice rear naked chokes on him and he became very hostile. He stopped talking to me until he saw what I meant. Funny joke though haha :)
I believe here "naked" means you don't utilize the opponent's Gi (or cloth) , as you will when apply many other choke techniques.
Maybe you were just in the wrong room. Did they have a gymnasium?
(😅if u look it up it'll b somethin from history)
Only your rear is supposed to be naked.
Can only guess where ya hang your belt ... but don't brag, Bruh! lol Actually, excellent defense tactics.
Thanks!
Great advice, thank you for highlighting the good, bad and ugly
These techniques do work. Some guy grabbed me from behind in a Pub fight & put the "choke" on me. I was able to get out of it using the step back technique exactly as demonstrated.
Having been studying martial arts for over 25 years I agree with this man 100%
I don't know anything about martial arts. I been to a fights many times and best easy way to get out is just grab the balls and squeeze it hardest you can and that really 100000000% works.
Most importantly, avoid being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Keep a 360 degree awareness and be ready to run away.
@little drane Or live in an actual civilised country where you don't have to worry about this shit.
Whatever you're gonna use, you have to train in it, actively, so that it's instinctual when the time comes. 5-6 seconds flies by real fast.
Yep, doing it once in a class 5 years ago ain't gonna cut it.
5-6 seconds changes a lot in a fight or self defense which unfortunately mirror each other sometimes. Considering the speed of people and reaction times of other. A second or two can decide something like this. I agree. Train in it extensively. Know your body first and foremost. It will handle whatever comes if you train broad enough regularly. It becomes muscle memory. Not a thought but a natural reaction. No thinking or time is wasted, action vs opposite or equal reaction. Your muscles will remember this and react accordingly.
I have seen all but the chin into the arm work and fail. I studied Japanese Jiujutsu and we learned the same throws plus one of dropping to one knee and sharply twisting. The throws seemed to work best. Elbow to floating ribs works well too but you can only solidly reach it with people of a certain size.
Well Brazilian jujutsu evolved from Japanese jujutsu so most of the techniques are going to similar or the same.
These defenses take into consideration a person’s initial reaction to a choke. Very reasonable to use your initial reaction. Like he said, you only have 5-6 seconded before you lose consciousness. Unless you train to grab the crotch, it won’t be what you are going to do. You don’t rise to your expectations, but fall to your training.
Drop your shoulder and turn hard. If a choke is properly applied.
IT'S TO LATE!
YOU JUST LOST !
Thank you (both of you) because a real technique against a real menace...👍
Good video the key to success is to be aware and react before the choke is locked in. It is very difficult to escape it beyond that point.
Thank you very much. There is so much junk out there. We need videos like this to help us see what works and why it works.
sensei, your explanation is very good, it gives us tools to use them at a certain time.
I understand the reason for the technique basics. In most street fight scenarios this is an attempt to submit from a novice. In that stand up RNC scenario my set up as the perpetrator is a knee up into the tail bone and the RNC is a "lift" of their body up onto that knee... breaking, or crushing the hyoid bone is as much a part of the goal as any "submission." BJJ, and similar arts with a competitive, not battlefield, mindset see a carotid artery (blood flow,) or trachea (air flow,) knock out finish. Defensively one must understand the physiological dangers of the RNC to fully appreciate the danger of the move and what must be protected. From a skilled attacker it's a fairly quick, open hand sentry kill... the back elbow strike works well when it's focus is to twisting it straight back into the armpit like you want it to connect with their heart- to break the smaller ribs in that area. Broken ribs make that arm unusable.
Tucking the chin keeps you breathing by opening the airway - tensing the neck muscles
Leaning forward uses "hip pivot" to 'turn' opponent over
Backing up to leverage the opponent over you - still uses "hip pivot" to 'turn' opponent over
The sweep (or "hook") will always come after taking control of the opponent's grapple - but the "leg hook grapple" is a tool used in taking controls (mostly before) of the opponent's grapple
The "spin around" is to take controls of the opponent's grapple - with a grapple...
That sets up for the "hip pivot" _ "hook" _ "spin around"
Best exit...use chin tilt & 1 hand to relieve pressure using other hand to pull pistol or knife & engage.
Awesome video excellent 👍 clear and cool reality explanation 🙏 sir. We are INDIANS, Andhra Pradesh state, East Godavari district. every one needs this techinic. We want more videos 💐
Was shoked to see those bad technics being taught on other videos. What you showed made so much sense 😊👍
Always wear a spike collar, the sharp ends outwards.
And what about when they fully lock the rear naked choke?
Connor uk on the ground? You’re pretty much screwed
@@mikebell4396 much like Connor lol
you have your hands... Just TAP! pray that he's your friend.
Techniques might work, for those in the game. For the average guy, probably not. In a fight there are many contributing factors, of which fear, startlement, maybe drugs and various degrees of intention and skill level difference of the assailant versus victim are some which come into play. The techniques shown here are realistic - as far as I can deem - but demands great deal of practice to pull off, no matter what.
Great points coach. I teach a lot of women’s self defense seminars and it’s amazing the things they think will work or were taught by people (including some martial arts schools).
Very accurate and reflective if the real world scenario done by a professional!
You can also learn some of these in Judo, too.
But I totally agree to learn these with an actual instructor. Chokes are dangerous, and the wrong choke can cause lasting damage if you don't know how to overcome it.
Thks for showing how it should be done and exposing fake nonsense moves that could eventually get someone injured or killed. Take care and God bless.
Actually, it's easier to throw someone taller than you in this manner, your center of gravity is below his. As a judoka, I had more trouble with short stocky guys than taller guys, had to use foot sweeps and hand techniques. Also if you can manage to turn into uke as in the final defense, his groin should be open to a strike. Not a fight finisher, but a great distraction.
I like the video. Even this defense isn't perfect because if the person manages to get his arm around your throat its over either way. but if you manage to get your chin down quickly enough you have some options and the options given in this video give you the most realistic chances of escape.
Thanks for this - you're right when atacker pulls the choke he's already pulling back - plus you're using a bigger guy than u so this also helps - tried this a few times - of course no guarantees but prolly one of the best defenses - thanks again!!
Nice techinques but why does your partner at 4:48 breaks his hold on his own?
What about walking up the wall and doing a backflip over the attacker.
blah979 lol
That’s some movie stuff ahahah
And break your own neck if he's doesn't let go?
The preferred way to go for most people
redbelt
*The attacker actually followed and ran up the wall together with him.*
2:26 im pretty sure that lady's slot machine is the "S.I.N.G." technique taken from the movie Miss Congeniality.
As a Wing Chun practitioner and instructor, we are taught to use contact reflexes (chi sao) to get to the opponent’s outside (blindside). I was able to use Escape 3 in a tournament in 2006. I thought I heard the referee’s whistle, so I stopped engaging and actually turned to face my corner. It turned out to be a person in the audience, so the guy put me in a choke and leaned back. I immediately tucked my chin, pulled his arm down, and turned toward his shoulder just like his technique, except I ended up accidentally tearing his shoulder. I still had the mindset that the ref blew the whistle, so I acted a little out of anger. Whoops.
I love how your instruction is not just on “technique” but on the “principles” behind the technique: the “why” and not just the “what”. I believe we can all incorporate good teaching from sound systems/instructors regardless of style. I regularly train with boxers, jiu jitsu and krav practitioners. I have a prison corrections officer in my school who also trains grappling (required for his job).
Absorb material, train hard, experience random attacks (stress test), enhance what works, throw away the crap that doesn’t. No egos.
Keep up the great instruction! Love from my school in Philadelphia.
damn. it must take some good amount of skill for a comeback of that kind, i've been there with a tkd competition as well. i'm gonna get dissed because of taekwondo lol
Having been rendered unconscious by a "blood choke" in an actual street fight....I have carried since that day a small, very sharp knife, in the center of my back where it can be drawn with either hand. If anyone EVER takes my back and gets an arm around my neck again, I will deal with it in a very brutal fashion. ( Radial artery, brachial artery, axillary artery) then I will go for the big pipes. (Carotid and subclavian )
Never....repeat NEVER, underestimate how damn fast a properly applied rear naked strangle (compressing your carotid arteries) will cause unconsciousness.
6 seconds or less
I won't.., it's scary. I had someone I worked with walk up behind me and place me in a choke hold out of the blue, he did not apply any pressure or pull me back but I felt instantly if he did I would have been in great trouble., I didn't react, I knew I couldn't fight him he was too strong, but it scared me and made me realize how vulnerable I can be. He did it in front of three older males in the room and no one said anything, not even the one I felt closest too, I never want to be in that position again. It is something that is subconsciously constantly in the back of my mind and I don't trust man, til this day I don't know why he did it, but I believe he had a distaste or dislike of me.. I was kind of smart mouth and could be outspoken at this time, I was lost I had just got baptized and lost sight of who I was and what I wanted to become, so I did not always say or do the right things when pressure came.:) I liked him at first and I kind of wanted to date him, and he didn't take me seriously. He even left two disturbing message on my voicemail, that was vulgar, and sounded like he hated me, with sounds with a women in the background of them having sex..I don't know what was on his mind. I told my brother about him, but he is someone I hope to never encounter again or anyone like him. Anyway I'm sorry that happened to you, and I pray you continue to be blessed.
It's so funny when the attacker stands motionless like a closet and waits to be thrown.
If you practice these moves enough you may become proficient enough to try them out on Ricky who's gona make you look good every time. A better defense is stay home and watch videos.
only way that I have found effective at escaping rear naked choke holds is to tuck chin,press back against attacker long enough for them to try to press forward, than drop and roll forward, they will let go or suffer sever damage as there head is smashed into the ground as u roll forward, now u must completely drop center of gravity as u roll forward, and when opponent out weighs you or is stronger it is criticle to first push ur weight back against them and trigger there natural response to push back thus using there strength against them, you must be clear headed and ready to drop center of gravity and roll forward immediately if u fell them trying to chock and drop back wards in able to get hooks in with legs and imobolize you, hope this helps please forgive my spelling and grammer mistakes lol
U'r Right, but for this to work, u must have some good takedown skills, like a judo practionner, remember u don't have a lot of time. For instance takedown shown in the video are wrong because requiring too much strenght, the coach needs some judo learning on top of his BJJ
I like your video! You show the proper way to defend against a rare neck choke
Now these techniques are more practicle. Thank you gentlemen
There should be laws against posting misinformation on self-defense techniques. It's directly analogous to teaching so eone incorrect driving procedures. Both could wind up with someone thinking they're doing the right thing in a dangerous situation and risking their life. Top tip - for self-defense, train under someone who gas been in a real fight and does a real martial art.
It is a bit more difficult because there is no single body to determine what is correct self-defence. You would need the legislator to decide on what is good self-defence and then pass a law stating that only the techniques identified can be taught. You might end up learning Tai Chi...
The difference is in scale, as driving is something people do every day and has very high risk and huge fatality count, whereas assault and self-defense situations are extremely rare by comparison
@@bobgraham1791 That's why evidence-based approaches are so important; instead of relying on an authority we look towards the science. Granted combat sports like MMA aren't perfect "experiments" to a real fight but it's the closest thing we have; generally if it were any other field of study people would agree to work with imperfect evidence instead of throwing it all in the garbage and relying on blind faith in untested techniques, yet for some reason that's exactly what happens constantly in some martial arts circles.
The problem with focusing so much attention to grappling, is your mind adapts to counteracting locks with escapes, as opposed to causing maximum damage to soft tissue areas of the body. I'm a bodyguard for 12 years now and I've tried several actions and reactions in different real-world situations. Focusing on grappling or taking someone to the floor while the person is armed or there are multiple men or women working together for a malicious purpose or sadistic cause, is one of the most dangerous situations you could place yourself in. Yes, you will subdue the one person you're focused on counteracting, but the overall outcome will be devastating to you.
Your environment and your given situation plays a massive role in what you should do versus what you were trained to do. Traditional martial arts has a strong foundation in my life but the street taught me what can be done and is nothing but marketed bullshit and i have the scars to prove it.
Even as a cage fighter, i thought the octagon represented a place for no nonsense fighters to display real combat techniques and jiu jitsu certainly has it's place there but we forget that is still a controlled environment.
On the street, in bars, moving through extremely dangerous regions and remote areas, focusing so much on choking, joint locks and ground work, will get you killed.
You dont have to like what I'm saying, but it doesn't change the fact that it's the truth.
@Mr .Brickshithouse the streets taught him how to be a bodyguard
@@offdazaza2769 Actually my training at SABA is where i earned my competency. The streets of South Africa, in gelvan, helenvale, extensions and townships taught me what does and doesn't work when gang members and turf mongrels want to kill you for your phone or the change in your pocket. But thanks for the comment anyway. I appreciate the feedback
@@gerardleroux5784 its different, if some retard lunges at you, you could easily beat him with almost any martial art, yet if 4 people with switchblades come at you, it flies out the window and its all about survival
@@offdazaza2769 that's exactly what I've been saying Adrian. Focusing too much on developing your grappling skills will get you killed. Every type of fight we're in, requires a different set of skills and therefore you need to adapt to the given situation. Martial arts or any other systems of combat are only there for you to develop coordination and muscle memory to be better equipped at diffusing violent behaviour aimed at you. It does not guarantee a favourable outcome but through practice, you increase your chances of survival.
To develop a skill set in one system of combat alone, is detrimental to your survival and you should rather focus on developing in an array of fields, including striking from boxing, power development in kicking from muay thai, etc. And then sparring everyday, with people of different shapes, sizes and strong points. Outside the cage, you need to get involved in advanced firearm training (tactical shooting), learn how to use your environment and clothing items to survive a knife fight (or panga-weapon attack like here in our modern jungle) by getting involved in Krav Maga or some military training. This whole thing of pursuing your black belt in one martial art or one system is outdated! You need to get involved in so much more to come out victorious, both inside and outside the ring.
@@offdazaza2769 as my tae wondo grand master loves to say he would rather not hav any training at all yet keep a cool head then know all these fancy self defense techniques and kicks yet freak out under pressure
The first problem is being in a position where your opponent can grab you in a rear naked choke. So 1: try to avoid being in that position. Tucking the chin in will help only if you are fast enough to get it in between his arm and your neck. As soon as the arm slips under it's basically game over, so you do not have 4 seconds, more likely 2 max, so even if you do you you already need to be moving. The variation of ippon seoi nage (the shoulder throw) is extremely unlikely to work, I would definitely not rely on that. Your turning outwards might. I understand you kept the speed down in order to demonstrate the technique, but you should show it full speed with a serious attack as well. And your version of that outward turn and trip was...let's say friendly.
The first one is like “why are taking so much time to choke me..do it quick..ok let me help you “🤣😂
Really liked the modest and humble way Sensei debunked those absurd and dangerous "self defense" techniques.👍 Those are good proven defenses found in almost all Judo, Jiu-Jitsu, Ju-Jitsu, BJJ schools.
It all depends on the temperament and emotional control of the one who receives the aggression ...
Wait, patting the attacker on the arm or whatnot seems to work every time. That's what I'm going to do!
Yap, master Ken proves it wotks in every case he tested.
You may actually be surprised if someone actually does. People can be conditioned and not realize it. LOL
Also a few good pokes with my switchblade will make them let go 🤣
Excellent. Finally a video with a real choke being used. At your level, i would like to see it done at full speed and aggression. Particularly when the choke is in at the neck, and the chin can't be used and you can't grip his arm. Assuming you have no karambit in each pocket ;)
As a practioner of both Gracie JJ and Hapkido, this video is very good and practical.
I once walked into class and saw a guy getting choked and he was just t posing. Thats the ultimate defense
When possible, push or pull first in the opposite direction of the flip, which causes the choker to lean into the flip, helping you to flip him.
In high school a friend who was taking judo spent 20 minutes teaching me a couple of throws. A year later a guy much bigger than me started a fight and I used one of those moves to put him down twice. This stuff definitely works on untrained attackers, and if perfectly executed, can work on trained attackers.
It's difficult to use leverage if the attacker gets a good choke or sleeper hold.
Absolutely
Love your video, thanks for showing the real thing.
Good stuff. Glad you showed people those non effective techniques.
Sadly many videos out there like that. People have to be very careful learning the wrong methods of self defence.
You need years and years of practice before you master the art of self defence.
Training your mind and body from inside out.
Once you are capable of defending your self effectively. Then you you start showing people how to defend them selfs.
Hope those people who did those 2 videos will see their poor and dangerous self harming techniques.
Grabbing the attacker's arm is not only the best defense, it's also the most instinctive, and instead of building upon this instinct, they try to untrain it and replace it with low success techniques. And good luck significantly hurting someone's feet when they are actually wearing shoes.
I think the stepping on toes technique is used by girls wearing high heels, but not for guys
Its not HORRIBLE in principle. The Stomping on the foot. Just really bad for the rear naked Choke. if it was a Bear hug or grab around the waist from behind it is worth a shot since it is right in line. And if your gonna do it you gotta REALLY do it. No step. you lift your leg up and stomp with ALL you got. A few times. And maybe try to head but them in the nose or face if you can with the back of your head. The Stomp does not have a Super high effective rate. Steel toes. Or fairly good boots or just some one really focused or hyped up on drugs could shrug it off. But its mostly about interrupting the attack. Not flat out stopping it. And its easy. Fast and worth trying. If you interrupt the attack. I.E. Get the grip to lossen. Or get them to lean forward a little or just get them to pause. You can procced with something else. Or just Buy time while you scream your head off for help.
In a survival Situation you use what you got. And it is a Cliche because it CAN work. JUST not so great for rear naked choke.
That first black was like. “Ah ah ah ah...” lmao
The elbow defenses can work, I’ve used em, and knocked the shit out of a guy. I’ve been in a lot of real fights, tournaments, studied both striking and grappling arts. My experience, the average person cannot take a hit.
Throws are great too, but takes a long time to get those techniques correct. Not everyone has the patience to learn them, either.
I agree. The elbow strikes (shown) are great distractions to set up throws. The other “self defense” techniques shown before that were BS, and the way the lady didn’t follow up with an actual technique beyond striking was silly. I do think the BJJ work (I play Judo and BJJ) but they would work better with strike. Be honest Professor, you weren’t really striking your blue belt.
*GREAT VIDEO. AWESOME TECHNIQUES, THAT OTHER MA CHANNELS ON YT DON'T USE IN DEFENSE OF A CHOKE. SADLY I LEARNED TO FIGHT ON THE STREETS OF DALLAS TX GROWING UP 80'S AND 90'S. FIGHTING BIGGER OR MULTIPLE ATTACKERS WAS A NORMAL EXPERIENCE FOR ME, SO I HAD TO LEARN THE HARD WAY TO DEFEND MYSELF. SELF DEFENSE IS A EVER LEARNING SKILL.*👍💪
Beautiful simple techniques 👌👌
if you don't see it coming you can't tuck your chin.
Fighting you've got about 5 seconds of air supply, the more energy you exert the less air you have so you want to get out of this as quick as possible, no time to think.
The best defense is to drop your weight or jump up to let gravity pull you to the ground, loosen the hold.
Exactly, why bother standing up? If someone wants to hug you like that from behind, why not just relax all your muscles and fall to the ground? The guy wont be able to hold you.
@@dgeg1000 because he'll still choke you, but now you have no mobility.
How do you defend a rear choke when they jump on your back wrapping their legs around your waist? no one is showing that in any the rear choke defense videos. Is it undefendable?
wrapping their legs around your waist? For sport/competition application (if the cross their ankles) lower them on their back cross your ankles on top of theirs and press down getting an ankle lock. This is why you only see pro fighters "hooks in" or body lock.
Ideally you never want to give up your back to an opponent, because they can go anywhere from the back and you have no clue what to expect. But thats not always an option, but you'll feel the intended choking arm let you go and you want to slip to the side of the arm or make sure you have full wrist control when they have that lock on you because they are weak with their arms extended while yours are tucked in. Its better to take a suplex and have the wind knocked out of you than to get caught it a choke
Of course there are defenses when your back is taken. They are more complex and involve many more steps than just escaping an RNC from standing though. Why are some of you talking about "crossed feet"? The OP said NOTHING about "crossed feet", only "legs around the waist". I read that as more of a body triangle situation than "crossed feet". And if you "know" the defense for "crossed feet" you should also know that it is NOT the same defense and is actually EVEN more complex than "hooks in".
In response to Bo S, I saw this on "Fight Tips" during a sparring session with JuJu
Pull out your pocket knife after securing your breathing and go to town.
Good to see some real Jiu-Jitsu guides out there.
If a dude really knows how to choke, your chances of getting out of it alone are slim. A trained choker won't stay on his feet for long (I personally like to jump and scissor the chest of my opponent with my legs). Someone strong enough doesn't really have to rely on reaching your neck too, he will most likely take you out even if he caught your chin
Good stuff gentlemen. I have a concern about #3. If the guy knows what he's doing and has a solid lock on you it may be difficult to break that grip or slip it.
To be fair to the first technique, you were digging your chin into the forearm while in the referenced video the defender dug her chin into the crook of the elbow. Not sure how much more effective it would be, but I'm sure the middle of the forearm can take more pressure than the crook of the elbow. Your technique that you offered as an alternative was still superior though.
You have a few seconds if you are an experienced fighter or if your attacker is inexperienced. If those conditions are reversed, a rear naked choke could be instantly debilitating.
These are all great technique, Thank you.
have had to actually use these deffense moves they do work so well they have no idea how the heck its do able, learned rule number one never let anyone get behind you your blindzone then your asking for trouble so rule one never let your back be a target, rule two practice till your body can just react to it if you need it.
0:40 you can tell he was faking that it hurt.
Both of them were fake. It was like a bad household product commercial where the housewife smiles likes a jack o lantern while gesturing at the product. There is no way her chin would hurt someone his size (or smaller) enough to make them release. All they have to do is squeeze harder.
Thank you kindly for showing us these Amazing techniques...I'm always looking for ways to teach myself and my daughters self defence and ways to stay safe. 🙏🏼😊
I LOVE THIS VIDEO. My arguments ALWAYS. I am a Self Defense Coach at a local High School in Chicago, and also I train in many different arts, my 4 year old nephew in BJJ and also training in different arts as well. My husband has a Black Belt in Aikedo and also training in many different arts including KESYI and SPEAR System. You can see some of his videos on UA-cam.
Many people teaches to hit the middle or they will say stomp the feet. It is DIFFICULT when you can't reach it or for someone that is the average Joe being ambushed from the rear. I am 5 feet so ALOT of people is taller than me. Of course my NATURAL reaction is to do the throw, but I teach to get the airway open and dropping the weight at the same time. To try to get the attacker off balance to escape.
Thank You for making this video and I will be using this video in my class to show them the REALISTIC in a rear choke.
Sharon Muhammad
I pressure tested this against a 250 lb MMA fighter and the airway opening simply did not work. No matter what I tried his arms would not budge and I wasted valuable time trying to drag his arm down. Even dropping my body weight was useless and am about 190lbs.
It's BJJ (Brazilian Jiu Jitsu) and is used by every MMA fighter in every competition on the Planet Earth,it was invented by the Gracie family and this is one of their black belts if you think that you know or can do better please invent your own Martial Art like they did.Then publicise it around the world and get every single professional MMA fighter to use it 24/7 in every aspect of training and competitive fighting and only then can you comment and expect anyone to listen to you!
What's the difference between jiu jitsu and judo?
Just to clarify: The Gracies didn't invent a new martial art. They modified an existing martial art.
@@daltonschneider2045 well if you modify something you are creating something new
@@CursosEmStreaming so if I take pizza and besides the usual Ingredients add some seaweed (which no one does) it's a completely new thing?
@@daltonschneider2045 exactly !
I read an article a few days ago that said they were going to pass a law in Virginia that would make it illegal to teach martial arts. Sounded nuts to me but then most politicians are nuts.
good for those that have been taught.
Virginia has one of the world's largest military base there and martial arts schools are everywhere. That would never happen.
I hope you are right but never underestimate the depths of depravity of politicians who would deny your right to self defense while they are protected by armed guards and the gates they live behind.
Thanks. Unimpressive looking but practical and effective measures.
@The Basics Gracie Jiu-Jitsu Leesburg, Virginia
What about being choked this way but while on the floor, both people on their backs? How do you get out of that?
Easy. By pulling out your knife and stabbing them
I suggest To do as he said and start taking a BJJ class OR You have to be strong and have great reflexes at MINIMUM to get out of a RNC or your going out.
I always use the tickle technique, only a monster is not ticklish.
start taking off your pants and see how they run...
One more point, when you lower your chin and use your hands to pull his choke hand, open your mouth and bite his forearm as strong as you ever can.. don't leave keep biting till he bleed and you cut his artery vein.. remember jaws have brutal bite force.. with canine teeth piercing his skin, the offender will try to take his forearm from you.. that's when the same hand will have his fingers loosen, use both your hands and break anyone finger bone completely.. the offender cannot use his 1 hand even to touch you because of fracture in bone.. then you run.. report to police.. if police catch him, they find your bite mark in his forearm and arrest him easily..
not very smart tho, because u can apply the choke to their jaw and destroy it
@@solcoster8110 most smart move is to avoid any fights at all costs. If you ever get in one without any option left to survive just go for the kill.
so many idiots saying that OPENING your jaw and having your windpipe crushed
also biting a arterie out in 5-8 seconds is hard enough not counting your windpipe getting crushed so if you open jaw 2-3 seconds before your windpipe is destroyed
Can you do something with the sound, Please.
thank you, I have been wanting to study the "Gracie" method. I hope they have one in phoenix AZ
I once got out the attempted (never let them lock you) rear choke of a school bully (not a professional fighter) by instantly shifting my bottom and backfisting his groin.
That first technique with the blonde chick is hilarious - let's help the attacker sink in the choke some more!
Yeah like oh god it hurts...What a liar...Look at the size of that guy...He wouldnt feel that
Muchas gracias, muy práctico y profesional, saludos desde España, Alicante
My wife is Brazilian i love this art the best in the world thanks guys
It’s easy to pick apart a defence when the defence that is being taught never went through any trial and error by the instuctor . Self defence techniques must be practiced over many years many repetitions meaning many tens of thousands of times of trying the technique under many different circumstances . Any technique can fail without this process. There are techniques which are well thought out and have a much higher degree of working because the principles and movements are anatomically sound , and the targets and weapons used were well thought out. The important thing when you are teaching self defence techniques to untrained people is to give them something simple, and effective, so they can get away from a threat as quickly and easily as possible.
What if you can't stomp on their foot cuz of hard shoes?