Are Trans Athletes Cheating?

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  • Опубліковано 1 лис 2023
  • Welcome to our pilot episode for Assumptions where we have Trans Athletes confront assumptions about gender Identity in athletics. Come back in two weeks for our episode on Asexuals!
    🎙THE PODCAST
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    🧨HUGE thank you to the Athletes that joined our discussion:
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    🎥Crew
    ▸ Creator, Director, Writer, etc - Anthony Padilla
    ▸ Executive Producer - Anthony Padilla, Alessandra Catanese
    ▸ Producer - Nicole Blacklock
    ▸ Director of Photography/Gaffer - Josh Kirkwood
    ▸ Camera Operator - Matthew Faulkner
    ▸ Social Media Manager - Mallory Myers
    ▸ Post Supervisor - Mike Criscimagna AKA Mork Crispy
    ▸ Head Editor - Patrick Horba
    ▸ Editor - Ash Duckworth
    ▸ Sound Mixing - Major Latimer
    ▸ Sound Supervisor - Gareth Hird
    ▸ Sound Editor - Jandre Van Heerden
    ▸ Assistant Editor - Levi Villalpando
    ▸ Social Media Editor - Cassie Korn
    ▸ Production Coordinator - Joshua Dozier
    📢BE ON THE SHOW
    ▸ If you are part of an underrepresented subculture or live a lifestyle you feel is not widely understood and would like to be interviewed by me, email inquiry[at]pressalike.com with your subculture in the title of the email.
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    0:25 TRANS WOMEN HAVE A BIOLOGICAL ADVANTAGE OVER CIS WOMEN
    4:29 THERE SHOULD BE A 3RD CATEGORY FOR TRANS PEOPLE TO COMPETE IN
    11:51 TRANS WOMEN HAVE HIGHER TESTOSTERONE THAN CIS WOMEN
    14:32 A MESSAGE FROM ANTHONY
    16:02 TRANS WOMEN HAVE HIGHER TESTOSTERONE THAN CIS WOMEN (CONT)
    21:55 PEOPLE TRANSITION STRICTLY TO DOMINATE AT SPORTS
    27:11 THESE ISSUES DON'T APPLY TO TRANS MEN ATHLETES
    29:12 TRANS PEOPLE WON'T STOP MAKING SPORTS POLITICAL

КОМЕНТАРІ • 4,3 тис.

  • @allshookup1640
    @allshookup1640 6 місяців тому +190

    I would LOVE to see people with chronic pain. As a chronic pain suffers hearing people talk together would be great.

  • @_mels_hellscape_
    @_mels_hellscape_ 6 місяців тому +3015

    Thank you for bringing a conversation to the athletes themselves rather than pitting people against each other (not gonna mention names, but we know who). - trans woman & former athlete

    • @gianlucaangeli2905
      @gianlucaangeli2905 6 місяців тому +187

      It's not really a conversation when nobody disagree with you or challenge what you propose as "fact".
      I don't think you would have liked a 30 minutes video of people agreeing that trans woman shouldn't compete against biological women.

    • @MicrowavedFurby
      @MicrowavedFurby 6 місяців тому +41

      What happened to sex and gender being different?

    • @_mels_hellscape_
      @_mels_hellscape_ 6 місяців тому

      3 trans athletes had a conversation. you dont have to watch if you dont want to.@@gianlucaangeli2905

    • @ThomAvella
      @ThomAvella 6 місяців тому +179

      @@gianlucaangeli2905 "biological women" 🚩🚩🚩🚩

    • @Joel1038
      @Joel1038 6 місяців тому +72

      @@ThomAvella if you cant define a biological woman then you cant define a trans woman

  • @whimsical_bee
    @whimsical_bee 6 місяців тому +787

    I would love to see an episode on Indigenous people. First Nations people, no matter what country, get so many assumptions made about them (I'm saying this as an Indigenous Australian, trust me, I know and hear it all the time). Anyway thanks for making this series!! These conversations are really important to have, especially when it comes to trans people. The fear mongering going on against trans people lately is horrendous. ❤️

    • @jaibird98
      @jaibird98 6 місяців тому +24

      That would be amazing to see on a channel with his reach! I'd love to see a discussion from indigenous people from different places (canada, australia, etc) and see how things are different and the same, depending!

    • @WolfQveen
      @WolfQveen 6 місяців тому +3

      I would love to see that too!

    • @karlahabbershaw1971
      @karlahabbershaw1971 6 місяців тому +7

      I love this idea, I am not a person of Native, Indiginous, or Inuit decent but I love hearing the stories from creators who are. There is so much lost history, stories, cuture there.

    • @karlahabbershaw1971
      @karlahabbershaw1971 6 місяців тому +7

      Some interesting assumptions might be "Native Americans are mostly gone" or "Pow-wows are only for Natives of a specific tribe" or "Native Americans don't believe in modern medicine" or "Native, Inuit, Indigenous, and "Indian" all mean the same thing" - these are some things I have heard Native and Inuit creators speak about before.

    • @WillTw12
      @WillTw12 6 місяців тому +1

      This would be awesome! Maybe comparing the varying experiences of each native group and their individual tribes

  • @Kyactrix
    @Kyactrix 6 місяців тому +397

    Hearing people who are ACTUALLY TRANS talk about this is so refreshing, because not once did any of them start getting defensive, yell, interrupt or talk over each other, or storm out of the conversation when it didn’t go their way. It’s so nice to see people who are able to have a calm and insightful discussion about this. I hope that people who praise discrimination start to watch your videos. And thank you to the man and two women who gave such a great discussion.

    • @frankcaggiano8282
      @frankcaggiano8282 6 місяців тому +92

      That's because there was noone arguing against them. This is just an echo chamber, it has no bearing on reality because there is no challenge. It's just people saying things, without any sort of challenge or debate this is just a cash grab video for y'all tik tok addicts.

    • @timothyyu6558
      @timothyyu6558 6 місяців тому +7

      @@frankcaggiano8282There’s still beauty in these kind of videos even if it’s an echo chamber.

    • @frankcaggiano8282
      @frankcaggiano8282 6 місяців тому +1

      @@timothyyu6558 for sure, but the intent is to just push the narrative and spread misinformation and emotionally charged ragebait, which I think is irresponsible.

    • @wootkennziz6914
      @wootkennziz6914 6 місяців тому +57

      @@frankcaggiano8282 That's literally the only chance we get to talk about it. All other scenarios we just get shut down or silenced because no one dares to listen to what we have to say.

    • @frankcaggiano8282
      @frankcaggiano8282 6 місяців тому +35

      @@wootkennziz6914 this is so patently false it hurts. Literally every second tik tok is about trans this, twitter posts about trans that, it's talked about HEAVILY on every social media platform on the planet. Let's be real here

  • @viknightingale552
    @viknightingale552 6 місяців тому +876

    I stopped playing sports bc Im trans. I miss playing soccer competitively, but I know that there are no co-ed sports available for me. I'm a trans man. If I played in the female team, I'd kick their asses. If I played on the men's team, I could be comfortable, but would they? Personally, I think CO-Ed sports are important. Not just competitively, but to promote healthly activities to transfolk, who may feel turned away by fitness due to how other people view them.

    • @viknightingale552
      @viknightingale552 6 місяців тому +76

      As a trans dude, I'm perfectly comfortable with my body I just don't like when others judge my body because it makes me anxious.

    • @geogass
      @geogass 6 місяців тому +32

      I totally agree with you @viknightingale552 ^^
      And I would like to add : I'm waiting for the day where the trans category in sports would be finally created.

    • @ananonymousalienkitten1399
      @ananonymousalienkitten1399 6 місяців тому +34

      I agree. I see co-ed sports as a necessary step to challenge discrimination and encourage the rawness of competition.

    • @eddiestefon7041
      @eddiestefon7041 6 місяців тому +40

      Being a trans guy on a men's team, you would have to work 5x as hard to be at their physical levels and that'd be unfair to you. That's why I quit sports because the disadvantages were too large to ignore.

    • @ihavenoidea2805
      @ihavenoidea2805 6 місяців тому +70

      ​@@eddiestefon7041would you though? trans men who are on testosterone have similar hormone levels to cis men, so they'd have to put in about the same amount of effort as far as I know

  • @niclynn
    @niclynn 6 місяців тому +975

    i would LOVE to hear from autistic adults!!! i myself am one of them, and i feel like there’s many misconceptions about us

    • @saxenart
      @saxenart 6 місяців тому +29

      Same! I’m autistic and ADHD.

    • @fil0sofia
      @fil0sofia 6 місяців тому

      I came here to say the same thing!

    • @fil0sofia
      @fil0sofia 6 місяців тому

      @@saxenart Hey, me too. :)

    • @Nicky2414
      @Nicky2414 6 місяців тому +3

      I'm all for it as a person with Aspergers.

    • @saxenart
      @saxenart 6 місяців тому

      @@Nicky2414 aspergers is just autism. Please don’t use aspergers anymore because it’s a natzi term and an outdated term. It’s not in the dsm-5 and it’s not used to diagnose people anymore.

  • @NicolettePaigeTMusic
    @NicolettePaigeTMusic 6 місяців тому +28

    I love the “I Spent A Day With” series and it’s so cool to see people that have been there talk together about things they have in common! I would love to see an “Assumptions” about people with Chronic Pain or an Invisible Illness as someone who deal with both I have had so many assumptions about me that just are not right or make no sense.

  • @XXXXXMIKIXXXXX1
    @XXXXXMIKIXXXXX1 6 місяців тому +186

    I love this idea Anthony, experiencing the conversation between people with shared experiences is completely different to watching them be interviewed.

  • @youjustlostthegame4418
    @youjustlostthegame4418 6 місяців тому +1402

    Anthony has always been great about giving people a platform to have their voices heard. This new format with multiple people conversing on a topic that relates to and affects them is just another incredible way to hear all walks of life. I'm a cis white male, so this topic (and other topics related to discrimination) doesn't necessarily relate to me personally, but I believe it's always a good move to listen to the feelings and perceptions of people that are on very different paths in order to keep an open mind and stay empathetic.

    • @p-__
      @p-__ 6 місяців тому +8

      My farts are better than Anthony's farts

    • @captaineggy4680
      @captaineggy4680 6 місяців тому +1

      @@p-__ fr 👃🏻👃🏻👃🏻

    • @Seaweedgirl1
      @Seaweedgirl1 6 місяців тому +37

      I would argue that this topic absolutely relates to you! Cis white men are the primary target audience for sports. Even if you're not a sports fan, you're very likely to be around them. You can be the voice supporting trans athletes that we need!

    • @mroselli
      @mroselli 6 місяців тому +1

      @@Seaweedgirl1 no, people don't want mentally ill men that think they are woman in womans sports. In fact, we don't want them around woman at all.......Woman have spoken outright on this...Teams have walked off the playing felid bc of this and we support them.

    • @TheSpeedDemonMMA
      @TheSpeedDemonMMA 6 місяців тому +2

      What does cis mean

  • @dinonuggett
    @dinonuggett 6 місяців тому +1975

    I am under the assumption that this will be an amazing series

    • @p-__
      @p-__ 6 місяців тому +4

      My farts are better than Anthony’s farts 💨

    • @AugustTheStag
      @AugustTheStag 6 місяців тому +8

      I see what you did there!

    • @Bunny_Bill
      @Bunny_Bill 6 місяців тому +4

      I adore your pfp

    • @ambientjohnny
      @ambientjohnny 6 місяців тому +1

      There is no internal feeling that is exclusive to men or women (or boys/girls), what makes anyone a man or a woman is being either male or female and reaching adulthood. Their sex and stage of physical maturity makes them men or women, not some "feeling" they have.
      Believing there is some "essence" specific to males or female as far as feelings go, that can manifest "in the wrong body", is akin to a religious belief, having faith in something that is impossible to prove or disprove. The thing is though, that no one on the "trans" side can actually even explain what this "essence" is, they can't even explain it to themselves yet have convinced themselves that the feeling they have means they "are in the wrong body" - without realising that their discomfort simply stems from not realising that they view conforming to sexist stereotypes as legitimate measures of manhood or womanhood. That is why every explanation given of WHY a male "can't be a man, but is instead woman" etc. relies upon listing stereotypical stuff, or, in some cases is completely abstract and refuses to actually provide any explanation of what they mean, simply stating they "know" that what they feel means what they say it does, even though they can't actually provide a definition of it. "It's hard to explain but I know I'm right" is an attitude one constantly comes up against - a religious faith in something they can't define.
      This idea that the terms "man" and "woman" carry all this baggage, sexist stereotypes, that people need to live up to or feel comfortable with is a complete fabrication coming from the "trans" side. You lot want a term to reflect aspects of your personality as well, you want to create more boxes to put people in, as you won't accept simply just being a man or a woman based on being born male or female (and reaching adulthood, obviously people are boys and girls before becoming men or women), but believe you need this "freedom of expression" to broadcast what sexist stereotypes you feel more comfortable with - thinking the world needs to adopt the sexist view you lot have (you fail to see just how much you have in common with Conservatives).
      Replacing objective definitions which are based in physical reality, with entirely subjective metaphysical claims, is not logical in any way, is not morally superior, and is demonstrably harmful, not least to female rights and protections, but also to practically anyone that buys into it as it warps people's perception of the underlying issues. It hinders people in their quest for individuation, creating this false narrative of them becoming more "authentic" when the total opposite is true, they believe they need validation from others in order to be happy etc. instead of being encouraged to find more inner strength and resilience with less reliance on how people see them. Demanding to be legally recognised as the opposite sex of what one is, is in no way shape or form more authentic than accepting the physical reality one is born into.
      This "woman is a social construct" thing IS the part that validates and perpetuates sexist stereotypes - woman isn't a social construct in that sense, it is a word society has chosen yes, but to describe a PHYSICAL state of being, not anyone's emotional states or where they fall on some spectrum of masculinity or femininity. There is a fundamental misunderstanding here of what the definition of man and woman means. The notion that people need to live up to sexist stereotypes of what "real men" or "real women" are, is complete fantasy. The fact that many people act as if sexist stereotypes were valid ways of measuring "real men" or real women" is a problem with the individual and their sexist bias, not with the terms themselves, as the terms themselves have none of the expectational baggage that people who internalise sexist stereotypes associate with them.
      A woman, is an adult human female, it is not an "identity" or a feeling, dress, attitude etc., that whole line of thinking is regressive in the extreme. Claiming there is some "essence" to "womanhood" that also males can access, but the reality is that women do not have to look or act any certain way, or act out some ludicrously sexist idea of the “social role of a woman”, all females who reach adulthood are women regardless of how they feel or look, and the one thing they ALL have in common, the one experience they ALL share, is that they are FEMALE, they do not have to "identify" as anything, they physically ARE women because they are female.
      Why should MALES be allowed access to SINGLE-SEX spaces/sports reserved for FEMALES based on their "gender identity"? If sex and gender are separate, then a male announcing his "gender identity" is "trans woman" does nothing to change their sex, they are still MALE - so why should they be afforded rights reserved for the opposite SEX? The movement is regressively sexist, and misogynistic.
      Why do you believe females do not deserve any spaces free of males? What is hateful about upholding female sex-based rights that were fought long and hard for?
      Believing sexist stereotypes define men and women, instead of their biological sex, is unquestionably sexist to the core, because you are saying men and women are not actually free to behave however they want but need to conform to these sexist stereotypes in order to be men or women - if you say no they don't have to act any sort of way as a man or woman, and being a man or woman has nothing to do with biology - then what are you describing by calling someone a man or woman? If you think it doesn't describe biology, and doesn't describe anything about their looks or behaviour, then what on earth are you basing defining anyone as a man or woman on??? Why would a man need to become a "trans woman" in order to be their "authentic selves", why can't they just be a very feminine man and dress/act however they want?

    • @AugustTheStag
      @AugustTheStag 6 місяців тому

      @@ambientjohnny you are wasting your useless breath.

  • @atlastheclouded
    @atlastheclouded 6 місяців тому +111

    Been hearing about this issue for years. Never seen a group of trans athletes actually get to talk about it directly

    • @Nocturne22
      @Nocturne22 5 місяців тому +25

      It's awful that this issue directly affects THEM but they never get too talk about it themselves.

    • @benjaminfranklin8412
      @benjaminfranklin8412 4 місяці тому +7

      Hearing them talk about the topic and make really bad arguments is helpful. They presented their best arguments and revealed how weak their arguments are. A sex-segregated category for women (individuals born with a female reproductive structure) and an open category is the only way to go.

    • @benjaminfranklin8412
      @benjaminfranklin8412 4 місяці тому +3

      @@Nocturne22 Hearing them talk about the topic and make really bad arguments is helpful. They presented their best arguments and revealed how weak their arguments are. A sex-segregated category for women (individuals born with a female reproductive structure) and an open category is the only way to go.

    • @amandamcgovern5744
      @amandamcgovern5744 3 місяці тому +4

      Yes and every argument was dishonest/ full of fallacies. Seriously. Every point. Name the STRONGEST point you think they made. Go ahead.

  • @XxjeffersonDkidxX
    @XxjeffersonDkidxX 6 місяців тому +65

    Anthony took the "is not my place to talk" to a whole new level,dude is straight up no in the conversation.

    • @p-__
      @p-__ 6 місяців тому +2

      my farts are better than Anthony’s farts.

    • @liliveliz4153
      @liliveliz4153 5 місяців тому +8

      He is providing his platform for needed conversations, while also giving people the protagonism they deserve.
      Something so basic and respectful, yet not many people do it.

    • @user-il3mv5kt3s
      @user-il3mv5kt3s 5 місяців тому +1

      ​@@liliveliz4153lol this room is full of people with the same opinion. Straight away it lost me.

    • @CoffeeSteve7224
      @CoffeeSteve7224 5 місяців тому +2

      @@user-il3mv5kt3s because they're the ones affected by legislation and hatred the most. Ofc it's going to be similar opinions. Plus they're the ones who are trans. This series is supposed to be a conversation (not a debate, there's a difference between the two) about assumptions and misconceptions about groups of people.

  • @darcy230
    @darcy230 6 місяців тому +744

    I love that it was just them in the room (no offense to Anthony lol) because it felt like u k it wasn't an interview although they were answering questions, it was almost like it was just them chatting in a safe space with no judgement and thats why i love this set up. Well done to the three of u for speaking up about it and not letting the fear of judgement get to u and well-done to Anthony for the set up ect good job!

    • @p-__
      @p-__ 6 місяців тому +2

      My farts are better than Anthony's farts.

    • @wasd3108
      @wasd3108 6 місяців тому +27

      he uploaded an echo chamber conversation, didn't partake cuz this needs opposition, and Anthony only ever nods and asks questions and reiterates what someone already said or assumes what they're gonna say in next 1min

    • @bean6725
      @bean6725 6 місяців тому +80

      @@wasd3108Although this only had people from one side, there is a reason for that. It’s not meant to be an argument it’s meant to show a side that is often silenced. The women here are athletes who have done research on this topic and are therefore credible. It would be more of an echo chamber if they were only giving opinions and not stating facts. The whole point of Assumptions is to clear up any confusion that there is about a minority group. It would be kind of silly to include people who cannot relate and people who have different experiences.

    • @wasd3108
      @wasd3108 6 місяців тому +12

      @@bean6725 "It would be kind of silly to include people who cannot relate and people who have different experiences." experience the facts or relate to the facts? ;D Ends in bias. Love it

    • @bean6725
      @bean6725 6 місяців тому +40

      @@wasd3108 Yes it ends in “bias” because this is not a debate. No matter who is talking, there will always be “bias”. I’m using quotes around the word because you are getting their individual lived experiences confused with the word itself. The difference here is that you see their experience as biased. I can see your point though because everyone is more likely to form opinions based SOLELY on their own experiences. But they aren’t just doing that. If they were taking a stance but not providing any evidence/support, it would be a biased claim.

  • @johnlagoss5932
    @johnlagoss5932 6 місяців тому +647

    I mean.. sounds like the solution is improving technology and healthcare for trans people's affirming care.

    • @carmen3091
      @carmen3091 6 місяців тому

      No bc trans "affirming" care is harming and killing trans people and kids

    • @snowballeffect7812
      @snowballeffect7812 6 місяців тому +25

      @@carmen3091 all the evidence points to the opposite, actually.

    • @briansupermega5692
      @briansupermega5692 6 місяців тому +15

      @@snowballeffect7812what how? Can u see this evidence.

    • @MicrowavedFurby
      @MicrowavedFurby 6 місяців тому +34

      Why are sex and gender only different when it's convenient for them?

    • @caiofranco2664
      @caiofranco2664 6 місяців тому

      im sorry@@MicrowavedFurby

  • @_DUCKCHASER_
    @_DUCKCHASER_ 6 місяців тому +10

    I was so caught off guard when Anthony popped up midway through. I WAS INVESTED IN THE CONVO!

  • @housematesforlife
    @housematesforlife 6 місяців тому +7

    We loved the interview with DID systems. Would love to have a conversation like this between plurals, especially also with those who identify as multiple outside of the clinical context. That would help so much against stigma and pathologisation of the condition, and give people a better understanding of plural to plural interactions!

  • @FairFeline
    @FairFeline 6 місяців тому +631

    When you said you were doing a Asexual verion next week, I audibly squealed!

    • @KiahRenamae
      @KiahRenamae 6 місяців тому +24

      I am so excited!!🖤🩶🤍💜

    • @hhkanu
      @hhkanu 6 місяців тому +16

      ace rep omg

    • @lilyofluck371
      @lilyofluck371 6 місяців тому +8

      lowkey excited - ace ally

    • @p-__
      @p-__ 6 місяців тому +5

      My farts are better than Anthony's farts

    • @Silvyya
      @Silvyya 6 місяців тому +1

      yayyyy

  • @luismaciel5086
    @luismaciel5086 6 місяців тому +398

    I really like how great this conversation flows from point to point. They are also very good at taking turns talking. AND they are great at slowly showing their own selves, what they do, and their experiences!

    • @Madblaster6
      @Madblaster6 6 місяців тому +29

      That’s because it’s not a debate

    • @MicrowavedFurby
      @MicrowavedFurby 6 місяців тому +21

      Why are sex and gender only different when it's convenient for them?

    • @nestorv7627
      @nestorv7627 6 місяців тому

      It's just a circle jerk of people agreeing with each other

    • @lokeyartist
      @lokeyartist 6 місяців тому +33

      @@MicrowavedFurby they are always different what do you mean?

    • @wigglewaggle3606
      @wigglewaggle3606 6 місяців тому +12

      @@lokeyartistThen how are there are no biological differences between biological women and trans women?

  • @kiteofdark
    @kiteofdark 6 місяців тому +46

    I don't really care about this issue since I don't watch sports but I think it would be more interesting for a discussion to take place rather than 3 people agreeing with each other for 30 minutes. It just feels like I am missing info because I don't know anything about sports.

    • @p-__
      @p-__ 6 місяців тому

      My farts are better than Anthony’s farts 💨

    • @calci2679
      @calci2679 3 місяці тому +6

      I feel like you wouldn’t say this about people you agree with

  • @Le_Magpie
    @Le_Magpie 6 місяців тому +22

    I would love to see an episode with Autistic individuals, there are a lot of Assumptions that I would love to see discussed.

  • @MadArtLang
    @MadArtLang 6 місяців тому +166

    I don't know if you already did these groups of people, but could you do episodes about:
    1. Teachers
    2. Polyglots
    3. International Students who attend foreign schools.
    4. International Teachers AKA American teachers who teach in Asia
    5. People who survived near death experiences
    6. People who survived extreme natural disasters
    7. Burn victims and amputees, physically disabled people due to an incident
    8. Su!c!de attempt survivors
    9. Homicide detectives and examiners
    10. Animators
    11. Hospice care workers
    12. P*rn actors
    13. Farmers
    14. Physical Trainers
    15. Former Spies
    16. Martial Art Experts
    17. Uber & Lyft drivers
    18. Sex Therapists
    19. Acupuncturists, Massage Therapists, Reiki Practitioners, Chiropractors, Physical Therapists
    20. Local State, County, City, Politics
    21. Visual Artists
    22. Social Justice Activists
    23. Terminally Ill people
    24. Animal Rescuers
    25. National Park Workers
    26. People who are raised by LGBTQ+ parents
    27. Indigenous people who have lived on reservations
    28. Race car drivers
    29. Lifeguards
    30. Professional Sports Athletes ie. Football or Soccer players
    I know super random list and you probs already did some but here ya go!

    • @noahvercetti7959
      @noahvercetti7959 6 місяців тому +5

      This a new series and the only groups he conformed is gay posters and furries

    • @probablyparker4044
      @probablyparker4044 6 місяців тому +22

      @@noahvercetti7959and asexuals as well! But these ideas are great too

    • @WolfQveen
      @WolfQveen 6 місяців тому +1

      yessssssss

  • @DSQueenie
    @DSQueenie 6 місяців тому +198

    I’m 1:41 in and already I’m realising the the biggest issue with this whole thing is no one reads the medical data. The reason British Cycling moved to ban trans women in women’s competition was because they did further research and felt that in their sport a year of HRT was not enough to nullify the advantage an athlete got from male puberty. Further research is being conducted but it is happening in a sport by sport basis, which is fair.

    • @rachele183
      @rachele183 6 місяців тому +29

      It was also due to focus groups just asking people what they thought in a community that is not known for being kind towards trans women which was their main statement on the news when they announced it
      There was also alot of criticism on the study they did as there is simply not enough significant data due to lack of trans women competing to reach much conclusion and outright ban and trans cyclists such as Emily Bridges were already parcipating in a study that was leading towards the opposite conclusion as their study
      Also the olympic regulation has always been 2 years of hrt before competing where it is know there is little biological benefit after that time period
      So it's odd they studied on one year and decided that's final and ban them no matter how long right?

    • @isoutoforbit
      @isoutoforbit 6 місяців тому +45

      He's created an echo chamber, not one of them cares to present opposing data because they all represent a single position.

    • @lilaclunablossom
      @lilaclunablossom 6 місяців тому

      It's funny how you transphobes can NEVER explain what these "advantages" actually are.

    • @DSQueenie
      @DSQueenie 6 місяців тому +1

      @@rachele183 are you implying that female cyclists are not known for being friendly towards trans women? Because from the Sky News announcement they only asked other women competitors.
      You’re not wrong on that point, however as pointed out in this video there will probably not be any significant data for several decades if we are going just by pure numbers because their just are not that many trans athletes competing and there probably never will be going by demographics if that stays the same as it is now.
      The Olympics want the individual sporting bodies to regulate their own sports with their own studies, while it has it’s own opinions it is only a competition at the end of the day not a governing body. If it was then sports like synchronised swimming and boxing wouldn’t have been single sex for so long.
      If you go back and watch both the British Cycling and World Athletics announcement they both say they they are conducting further studies and open to more data. Going by the British Cycling announcement thought it seems clear to me they were most worried about legal challenges, I’m guessing from “cis” women, which is why they rushed into these bans.

    • @DSQueenie
      @DSQueenie 6 місяців тому +4

      @@isoutoforbit first off I’m a woman and second off I’m very open to new data and studies proving me wrong. I gain no pleasure from seeing people be excluded because sport participation is a human right.
      In an argument it’s the group challenging the status quo who present the data technically, however the point of my comment wasn’t to reference any particular study but to point out that what she said was inaccurate. These governing bodies changed their policies due to doing their own studies. The same can’t be said for these states and their new anti trans laws which from what I can see are mostly political posturing.
      Each sport has a duty to do their own research and come to their own conclusions. For example the ISU didn’t change their trans inclusion policy and their will be many sports that won’t have to either.

  • @krazyleprechaun2360
    @krazyleprechaun2360 6 місяців тому +8

    I'd love to see people with invisible disabilites who 'seem normal' or 'dont look autistic' for example, deaf or blind people who maybe dont look it I feel like theres a variety of disabilites people experience but arent always visibily that thing

  • @shwedoo-6035
    @shwedoo-6035 6 місяців тому +8

    I do like this type of format because it's different than usual. It's not a debate, it's more like a documentary. Hearing their points of view is appreciated.

  • @Luro_TheGrem
    @Luro_TheGrem 6 місяців тому +187

    Please do Assumptions on Trans men and Trans masc individuals. So many ppl have said shit like " your just a tomboy" "you didn't have a dad that's why..." Yada yada yada. Id love to see trans masculine and trans men talk about it.

    • @p-__
      @p-__ 6 місяців тому +3

      My farts are better than Anthony's farts.

    • @Mars-jf4gy
      @Mars-jf4gy 6 місяців тому +42

      Yes! Especially feminine or gay trans guys who don’t fit that narrative whatsoever.

    • @TheTruePlague
      @TheTruePlague 6 місяців тому +2

      thats like 1% of the 1% so prob wont happen fun fact 99% of the population never was in a mental health facility remember to diversify your friend group a short term happynes/=longterm

    • @umtic
      @umtic 6 місяців тому +16

      ​​@@TheTruePlaguethat's not really 1% of 1%, but about 50% of 1%. also your fun fact has nothing to do with this unless you are trying to pursue an agenda

    • @TheTruePlague
      @TheTruePlague 6 місяців тому +2

      @@umtic how is 0.5% of the global population trans athleats

  • @abbywelberg6766
    @abbywelberg6766 6 місяців тому +222

    If someone was transitioning for the sole reason to play sports and nothing else that would be weird and is not a thing. No one is putting themself through that just to maybe be better at a sport. They just want to do what makes them happy, who are we for making others feel less than because they are going through a different journey.

    • @Araanor
      @Araanor 6 місяців тому +90

      Their pursuit of happiness shouldn't trump every one elses.
      By letting a transwoman compete in womens sports, it makes all the hard work and effort of the other women meaningless.
      Feminists should be enraged!

    • @mythicalthings1796
      @mythicalthings1796 6 місяців тому +63

      ​@@AraanorCategorically wrong

    • @carmen3091
      @carmen3091 6 місяців тому

      I don't identify as a feminist bc that group has been corrupted too.
      That's the thing, men are dressing like women and claiming that makes them a woman. No real commitment needed to walk into a locker room and expose yourself in front of kids in spas. It happens.

    • @potatobro_the_fifth2045
      @potatobro_the_fifth2045 6 місяців тому +23

      ​​@mythicalthings1796 how their right look at Fallon fox in mma broke a woman's skull a ridiculous advantage in sports

    • @NatalieRoman
      @NatalieRoman 6 місяців тому +48

      @@potatobro_the_fifth2045 So I’m not sure if you are aware, but orbital fractures tend to happen in a sport where two competitors punch each other in the face over and over. Just a thought.

  • @bigfatboi544
    @bigfatboi544 6 місяців тому +8

    This feels like something that buzzfeed would upload

    • @tristanpesic4436
      @tristanpesic4436 4 місяці тому +1

      Fr tho

    • @calci2679
      @calci2679 3 місяці тому

      Buzzfeed is shallow as hell. This is not

    • @bigfatboi544
      @bigfatboi544 3 місяці тому

      @@calci2679 it "feels" like. The topics are kinda weird. Nothing can be worse than buttfeet.

  • @shrekxrohankishibe
    @shrekxrohankishibe 6 місяців тому +13

    I’m disappointed in these people. They deny the fact that biologically trans women DO have an advantage.
    Your bone structure, lung size, size of hands and feet, bone density, strength, etc. They are so biased that they deny reality and choose to go with feelings. How about you start listening to us women who are the victims of your feelings instead of denying reality.

  • @Deadlyvoltage3
    @Deadlyvoltage3 6 місяців тому +9

    Picking such a controversial one as episode 1 is ballsy

  • @LabiLabi777
    @LabiLabi777 6 місяців тому +463

    Thanks for doing this, Anthony. I can't believe you went from belting the Pokémon Theme Song in a cringey movie to giving a space to oppressed groups of people. Keep up the good work🙌

    • @p-__
      @p-__ 6 місяців тому +5

      My farts are better than Anthony’s farts 💨

    • @Ray-lw2rh
      @Ray-lw2rh 6 місяців тому +5

      Cringey? Without that video you probably wouldn’t be here right now. That video alone is what made a lot of people get into UA-cam.

    • @michaelg6455
      @michaelg6455 6 місяців тому +25

      Oppressed?

    • @mshoney9301
      @mshoney9301 6 місяців тому +38

      @@michaelg6455 did they stutter

    • @michaelg6455
      @michaelg6455 6 місяців тому +25

      @@mshoney9301 they are the opposite of oppressed, they are celebrated and given special treatment. Just because some people don’t like you doesn’t make you oppressed.

  • @Leafy222
    @Leafy222 6 місяців тому +2

    I would love to see a video centering immunocompromised people; there's a lot of assumptions made not just about how immunocompromised people should feel during an ongoing pandemic, but even before the pandemic as well.

  • @JohnH100-ih3he
    @JohnH100-ih3he 23 дні тому +5

    Can we have someone unbiased at the table please

  • @WishGender
    @WishGender 6 місяців тому +13

    Anthony out here doing this conversation the right way. Jubilee does it for the clicks and arguments, but Anthony is doing it for the sake of conversation

    • @jolynecujoh2694
      @jolynecujoh2694 3 місяці тому +3

      i feel like this and jubilee are just 2 different formats. anthothy's channel has and probably always will be about giving people a voice. meanwhile jubilee's version is a debate. i dont think it means that either one is wrong.

    • @WishGender
      @WishGender 3 місяці тому +1

      @@jolynecujoh2694 sure. I just mean that trans rights shouldn't be a debate, which is what jubilee is doing

    • @jolynecujoh2694
      @jolynecujoh2694 3 місяці тому +3

      @WishGender while i wholeheartedly agree that trans rights need to exist, i also believe that all opinions should be heard regardless of how wrong we perceive it to be

  • @antiquatedgraves9426
    @antiquatedgraves9426 6 місяців тому +30

    I'm so frustrated that this exact video has an unwanted PragerU detransition advertisement slapped directly underneath it. These algorithms are such nuclear waste.

    • @christiankilduff1281
      @christiankilduff1281 3 місяці тому +1

      Womp womp

    • @antiquatedgraves9426
      @antiquatedgraves9426 3 місяці тому +1

      @@christiankilduff1281 Careful, the school you're teaching at could fire you over that dirty language. lol

  • @orioncourts
    @orioncourts 6 місяців тому +91

    I'm so glad to see people like Anthony use their platform and influence for important things like this.

    • @p-__
      @p-__ 6 місяців тому +1

      My farts are better than Anthony’s farts 💨

    • @mroselli
      @mroselli 6 місяців тому

      the important part is to get mentally ill men that think they are woman OUT of woman's sports or any area deemed solely for woman!!! There's over 4 billion woman on this planet and the mentally ill group isn't even a fraction of a half percent of that......this group of men should not be allowed to bully their way into these areas and disrupt woman's lives.!!!

  • @sozio1124
    @sozio1124 6 місяців тому +10

    Gotta admit, I havent watched the whole thing but I don't want to either. It's great to give people a platform but all they do (up to 7mins) is confirming each other. There's a lack of discussion. Put people with different opinions in a room and let them discuss. That'd be way more interesting

    • @Izzy-wl7gl
      @Izzy-wl7gl 6 місяців тому +4

      The "different opinions" in this case would just be people debating if these 3 people exist. Human rights isn't a debate, we should be encouraging the talk of "different opinions" as if it isn't purely about debating these peoples lives with people that have no knowledge what it means or what it is like to be trans

    • @sozio1124
      @sozio1124 6 місяців тому +2

      @@Izzy-wl7gl That's not the people I'm talking about. It's about if trans women should participate in the women's category because of biological advantages so take someone who works in that field or is highly experienced. I'm not an expert so I won't express any opinion, but an actual expert could. And even if he'd be against trans people, there would at least be a discussion.

    • @Al_-cf1dj
      @Al_-cf1dj 6 місяців тому +1

      ​@@sozio1124yeah, I still think it's pretty inevitable that transphobes are gonna sneak into that discussion

    • @sozio1124
      @sozio1124 6 місяців тому +3

      @@Al_-cf1dj It really isnt. Anthony hand picks the candidates and he could make a picture of that person for himself. Not everyone who is against trans people is transphobic

    • @Al_-cf1dj
      @Al_-cf1dj 6 місяців тому

      @@sozio1124 true but I think it's valid to allow the people who are being talked over to share their perspectives without being pushed against (though I do think a sort of fact check with information popping up on screen would be helpful)

  • @dodonixx953
    @dodonixx953 6 місяців тому +14

    This comment section is gonna hell or the most wholesome place ever.
    ...
    Probably both.

    • @p-__
      @p-__ 6 місяців тому

      My farts are better than Anthony's farts.

  • @chinaqueen2588
    @chinaqueen2588 6 місяців тому +69

    Lia Thomas, Rachel McKinnon, and Chris Bruce

    • @chinaqueen2588
      @chinaqueen2588 6 місяців тому +2

      0:06

    • @xp8343
      @xp8343 6 місяців тому +1

      Yes

    • @AliceMGT
      @AliceMGT 6 місяців тому +4

      Lia thomas hasnt won like that in forever since her transition's progressed iirc

    • @Con_blue
      @Con_blue 6 місяців тому +14

      Exactly. I was like "what? Do they live under a rock and never heard at least of Lia Thomas?"

    • @Con_blue
      @Con_blue 6 місяців тому +2

      @@AliceMGT Yes maybe because they are not a good athlete anyway. They tied with the biologically female athlete that one time even though Lia was way bigger. When Lia was in men's sports they were not doing well at all as an athlete.

  • @fauna22
    @fauna22 6 місяців тому +3

    I’ve been watching your stuff for a long time Anthony but I’ve never actually subscribed for some reason. As a trans woman I loved this open and honest conversation that allowed people actually affected by these issues to speak on them. This video made me finally subscribe

  • @TheKantoguy123
    @TheKantoguy123 6 місяців тому +14

    I am amazed that Anthony has been doing this behind the scenes while working on Smosh at the same time. I am also glad that he is shedding light on this topic.

  • @rasengdori13
    @rasengdori13 6 місяців тому +40

    LOTS of people giving their take in these comments for a 30-minute video uploaded 12 minutes ago.
    "I'm not transphobic, I'm just not comfortable watching a full video with trans people discussing their rights before forming my opinion on their entire community."

    • @p-__
      @p-__ 6 місяців тому

      My farts are better than Anthony's farts.

    • @Jordaninspace
      @Jordaninspace 6 місяців тому +1

      Literally, they see trans people and instantly combust. They claim to not be afraid of trans people when called transphobic, yet they're too uncomfortable to sit down and watch a damn UA-cam video

    • @Mars-jf4gy
      @Mars-jf4gy 6 місяців тому +8

      “I’m not transphobic, but I prefer my misinformation over actually looking into the topic because it makes me uncomfortable to admit that I may be incorrect. Instead, I will say that everyone else is incorrect for introducing facts about the topic into the equation.”

    • @nozers
      @nozers 6 місяців тому +6

      The same reason why i wont watch a 30 min video of transphobes discussing a topic is why I wont watch this. Its all bias information and a pointless echo chamber

    • @rasengdori13
      @rasengdori13 6 місяців тому +8

      @@nozers Imagine equating a discussion of people wanting human rights to a discussion of people wanting to take away human rights 💀

  • @youtubeuserremainsanonymou9022
    @youtubeuserremainsanonymou9022 6 місяців тому +44

    Other communities to consider for assumption-ADHD and Deaf People.

    • @Mars-jf4gy
      @Mars-jf4gy 6 місяців тому +10

      Autism as well.

    • @EastonFields-boopabeep
      @EastonFields-boopabeep 6 місяців тому +4

      I’m so excited for what this video can bring to this channel I wanna consume all the info

  • @uelld.8371
    @uelld.8371 6 місяців тому +6

    If people are too afraid to even make an open category competition that doesn't limits the athlete based on their s.e.x./gender, then they're either have "no balls" or being a "pssy".

    • @tennisthelegend
      @tennisthelegend 2 місяці тому

      because its unfair for women if a woman goes against a man in boxing then shes gonna be knocked out straight away

  • @jackiecat101XD
    @jackiecat101XD 5 місяців тому +2

    As a person with chronic autoimmune illness, I would love to hear from people with these illnesses like me: Lupus, RA, MCAS, and others. Chronic pain/fatigue. I'd love to hear from people who do drag, I'd love to hear from inter-cultural/lingual couples, (couples who learn each other's language), people with a cognitive disability, and rehabilitated felons. This series could really go on forever.

  • @unlitrash
    @unlitrash 6 місяців тому +15

    i was really confused when i saw the video format i thought it was jubilees but i definitely want to give this a try if this is something anthony is willing to keep up as a series, im on a road trip rn but i cant wait to watch it when i get home!

    • @carmen3091
      @carmen3091 6 місяців тому +1

      It's an echochamber

    • @van7915
      @van7915 6 місяців тому +1

      @@carmen3091 its not supposed to be a debate. Stop being a debate pervert

    • @carmen3091
      @carmen3091 6 місяців тому

      @@van7915 pervert? Lol no need to be dramatic

    • @umtic
      @umtic 6 місяців тому +2

      ​@@carmen3091that's the point. it's meant to be an echo chamber

  • @Holics94
    @Holics94 6 місяців тому +130

    This is so refreshing to see. A panel of marginalized people that don’t need to compete with people who don’t believe they should exist. This show is what jubilee fails to be

    • @carmen3091
      @carmen3091 6 місяців тому +9

      1. They aren't marginalized. They're doing too much. 2. No one thinks they shouldn't exist. Yall are so dramatic with statements like this. People in countries outside the US, Canada and the UK? they are the ones who don't want you to exist!

    • @iPancake3
      @iPancake3 6 місяців тому

      @@carmen3091 There are so many people in the US, Canada, and UK that don't even believe being trans is /real/.

    • @flameobmo
      @flameobmo 6 місяців тому +31

      ​@@carmen3091bsffr did u saw all the laws passed thats directed towards trans people?

    • @muyleche9820
      @muyleche9820 6 місяців тому +4

      @@flameobmo Can you list the codes for some of them? I'd like to look into those myself

    • @LaughingOrange
      @LaughingOrange 6 місяців тому

      @@carmen3091 1. Those are trans women, who are a group that is currently marginalized in most countries.
      2. There are lots of people who don't think they are real women, and should "return to being the men they once were"

  • @heatfromsapphire
    @heatfromsapphire 6 місяців тому +3

    Thank god that people who would be affected by the decisions regarding this issue are the ones talking about this topic. I know next to nothing in regards to this topic, so this also gives me an opportunity to learn more about the topic, even though I’m already on their side for the equality they’re fighting for.

  • @muddybubble3292
    @muddybubble3292 6 місяців тому +4

    Try telling me you are retiring from UA-cam without telling me you're retiring from UA-cam

  • @BritneeFuckingStar
    @BritneeFuckingStar 6 місяців тому +107

    As a trans woman I would like to share my opinion if that's okay with the general public. I wouldn't go as far to say that trans women are cheating or that they should be banned from sports, but I do think that all athletes, trans or cis, should complete against other persons that match them in physical endurance, strength, and skill. To compete against someone that is lesser in any of these aspects is an unfair advantage over your opponent. This is why certain sports have different classes depending on the physical build of the athlete. If a cis woman has the physical build of a cis male then she should compete against those athletes. Same for a trans woman and vice versa for cis men who have a physical build of a cis woman. Same for trans men. Sports aren't really about showcasing your individuality, their about showcasing a specific set of skills. Unless it's an artistic sport like dancing or something like that, then it really doesn't matter that much.

    • @nijirosbug1340
      @nijirosbug1340 6 місяців тому +15

      I 100% agree as a trans guy

    • @lynab7964
      @lynab7964 6 місяців тому +6

      Facts

    • @Pollicina_db
      @Pollicina_db 6 місяців тому +23

      Thank you so much for this comment. The thing people, be it cis or trans, don’t understand is that gender and sex are and should be two seperated things. Its a biological fact that we are either born as (I mean our sex is either) female or a male and it doesn’t affect only the genetalia, but our entire development of the body. No matter what our gender is or how much somebody operated their body or shifts hormones the body remains. Its really, really not fair to have a trans woman compete with a woman if their physichal capablitiles don’t match.

    • @Gingermycat
      @Gingermycat 6 місяців тому +11

      Thank you yeah I was going to comment the same thing. They didn't touch on if you transitioned after puberty. The whole testing for hormones to me doesn't stop your muscles and build you got when you "were" the other sex. This is the only thing I have been lost on. If anyone can help me understand why it's ethically ok for a tans person who went through puberty the other sex doesn't have an advantage scientifically.

    • @lizziedoesthings1450
      @lizziedoesthings1450 6 місяців тому +14

      My problem is I know this wouldn't be implemented fairly. They aren't about to use fairness as a reason to make a basketball league for short people you know? It will just be used as a way to push marginalized people out of the spotlight like how chess and disc shooting are separated by gender when there's no biological disadvantages at play. Similarly they aren't going to make cis women take tests to see who they should compete against, it will always always be the trans women who need to take blood tests and stuff. The marginalized will always be seen as taking something that doesn't belong to them, even if they've earned it

  • @aster_11
    @aster_11 6 місяців тому +6

    Anthony this new series sounds amazing, I'm so excited to see what's coming up in the future! (Also I'm so excited to see Shubble)

  • @clockguy5436
    @clockguy5436 6 місяців тому +8

    The part that kind of - for lack of a better word, "enlightened" - me was at 16:56 when they pointed out that during the time of slavery, black men and women had to adapt to survive, thus making them stronger, faster, and more athletic. And then that fact somehow became a point of unfairness in sports, that "they were bred to be stronger and faster than white men and women." And it's like those people who banned men and women of color were saying "How dare you use the athelticism you adapted and evolved from our oppression of your race to get ahead of us in sports."

    • @nightmares356
      @nightmares356 4 місяці тому

      If you think the human race evolves in such a small amount of time, you’re an idiot. It takes thousands of years for change throughout generations

    • @gjbsarmeri3957
      @gjbsarmeri3957 3 місяці тому +1

      That's false. The reason why black people are naturally stronger is not because of american slavery, it's because they evolved in a bit of a different way. Africa is full of wild and dangerous animals and most of those people had to resort to more "barbaric" stuff in order to survive for a long amount of years. American slavery lasted about 90 years, which is not nearly enough to 'evolve' in such way. One of the reasons why black slaves were sold by their black masters to whites and carried to the USA was because of their strength and endurance. They already were stronger and more endurable, not the other way around.

    • @clockguy5436
      @clockguy5436 3 місяці тому +1

      @@gjbsarmeri3957 Oh. That's a good point, thank you for clarifying.

    • @gjbsarmeri3957
      @gjbsarmeri3957 3 місяці тому

      @@clockguy5436 No worries. A lot of people don't really understand that slavery is not really what shaped modern black culture and their gene pools. It's the same with asians. For generations most of for example chinese people were trained through extreme discipline and respect. That's why many modern asians are like that as well.

  • @gee___beee
    @gee___beee 6 місяців тому

    Loved this episode!! Would also love to see somethings discussing assumptions of unhoused/rough sleeping communities, especially after the recent statements from the UKs Home Security stating that rough sleeping in tents was a lifestyle choice (paraphrasing). I've done housing/shelter work for the last 5 yrs, and have seen similar actions taken by my own local government. I think it would be a really impactful discussion and hopefully will make people question their own assumptions about unhoused folks --- much love n thnx!

  • @l30penguin
    @l30penguin 6 місяців тому +41

    I'm interested in knowing when they talk about how trans women not having a biological advantage and trans women not having any higher testosterone than a cis woman has, are they talking about trans women who have undergone HRT? Might seem obvious, it was just never mentioned so I wanna know

    • @DSQueenie
      @DSQueenie 6 місяців тому +30

      Yes they are talking about trans women athletes who are on HRT.

    • @GavHern
      @GavHern 6 місяців тому +24

      yeah the studies they’re referencing analyze trans women who have been on E for 2-3+ years I believe, which is around the point where you’d no longer have a male body to the standards of competitive sports

    • @p-__
      @p-__ 6 місяців тому

      My farts are better than Anthony's farts

    • @The6th03
      @The6th03 6 місяців тому +14

      @@GavHernI think issue is that trans women went through male puberty that means your bones are structured differently such as density, size and etc
      So even after testosterone dissipates. You inherently have an advantage. Yes by decreasing testorone you will some bone density and size. However, the bone density/size will remain much higher than significant percentage of women.

    • @tia8580
      @tia8580 6 місяців тому +10

      @@The6th03 This bone structure and density argument is completely null because the studies that have been done conclue that there is no advantage at all, that includes any possible advantage.

  • @andrewnaber5406
    @andrewnaber5406 6 місяців тому +124

    This is amazing Anthony! I can’t wait to get more of this series. You do such good work and inspire me to make good change in the world. Keep on being amazing Anthony ❤

    • @p-__
      @p-__ 6 місяців тому

      My farts are better than Anthony's farts

  • @transmaniandevil
    @transmaniandevil 6 місяців тому

    UA-cam has become my cable tv, I love watching “shows” like this on here! and as a trans person, I really appreciate these conversations!! thank you Anthony!

  • @atacothatgames
    @atacothatgames 6 місяців тому +16

    honestly i don't disagree with the message being spread here but it is not very productive as it isn't a debate, its just 3 people sitting down and agreeing with eachother for 30 minutes, pretty much just an echo chamber

    • @dikembeafrika8918
      @dikembeafrika8918 27 днів тому

      Echo Chamber. not sure what the 3 guests are trying to achieve. Over and Out.

  • @MrVmBear
    @MrVmBear 6 місяців тому +265

    Glad you are framing this conversation in a way where they get to lead the conversation on their terms.

    • @shrimpinainteasy7370
      @shrimpinainteasy7370 6 місяців тому +35

      This is sarcasm, right?

    • @Crqzy_Bot
      @Crqzy_Bot 6 місяців тому +1

      @@shrimpinainteasy7370No, trans people are always talked over in this conversation, one that contains only trans voices is actually a good thing.

    • @nickyheart
      @nickyheart 6 місяців тому +22

      ​​@@shrimpinainteasy7370why would it be sarcastic?

    • @gianlucaangeli2905
      @gianlucaangeli2905 6 місяців тому +55

      ​@@nickyheartbecause this style will just create echo chambers. It's not positive even if you agree with what they are saying

    • @ticklord
      @ticklord 6 місяців тому +28

      @@gianlucaangeli2905 You use that term, but I don't think you know what it means.

  • @johnlagoss5932
    @johnlagoss5932 6 місяців тому +24

    This is really great! I'd love to see some more sources on screen and in the description, this topic deserves so much more than half an hour

    • @reiha7320
      @reiha7320 6 місяців тому +2

      oh that would definitely be great

    • @briansupermega5692
      @briansupermega5692 6 місяців тому +6

      Especially since there is some missinformation. This topic deserves a simple fact check for some claims.

  • @Euge-fq7yf
    @Euge-fq7yf 6 місяців тому +11

    Great video! I’d love to see an Assumptions video about autism in the future

  • @AceAngelTTV
    @AceAngelTTV 6 місяців тому +10

    -says that if trans women had an advantage teams would be stacked with trans women. -proceeds to say there isnt enough trans women in sports to make teams. okay

  • @riss.h2478
    @riss.h2478 6 місяців тому +89

    Anthony Padilla is one of the nicest people and he makes me so happy ❤

    • @p-__
      @p-__ 6 місяців тому +2

      My farts are better than Anthony's farts

    • @riss.h2478
      @riss.h2478 6 місяців тому +6

      @@p-__ depends what you eat

  • @ZukiTV
    @ZukiTV 6 місяців тому +35

    And THIS is how you use your platform to elevate other's voices; especially the voices that always get ignored. Can't wait for more episodes of this series and I truly hope this becomes permanent.

  • @Plutoaster
    @Plutoaster 6 місяців тому +18

    Loved this episode! i'd love to hear more about disabled (visible and non visible) and neurodivergent people
    As an AuDHD woman, I think society doesn't even acknowledge us sometimes, and there's lots of ableism that we experience everyday without people even realizing that they're being ableist, either in the way they speak or in the way that facilities, companies, or people's perception make it hard for us to navigate life.

    • @gjbsarmeri3957
      @gjbsarmeri3957 3 місяці тому

      Because you're literally the same as everyone else just wit ha disability. You're not special

  • @frizzman1991
    @frizzman1991 6 місяців тому +24

    Great job! One may be tempted to ask where Anthony is, but this time it makes a lot of sense for him to sit it out. Excellent opening episode, cheers.

  • @Girlanime2001
    @Girlanime2001 6 місяців тому +21

    The way that no one watched the video BEFORE commenting is really funny and telling like half of your so called concerns are mentioned in the video, not saying you can't have your opinions or disagree but at the very least you should listen to what you are arguing against.

    • @nozers
      @nozers 6 місяців тому +5

      But i wouldnt watch a 30 min video of transphobes discussing trans sports. Its pointless and just an echo chamber. You need a debate type setting for these

    • @steviek27
      @steviek27 6 місяців тому +8

      @@nozersit shouldn’t be a debate, these real people are having their humanity stripped from them and they could lose everything, while the “other side” pushes them down. if u wanna watch that go watch middle ground by jubilee they love giving oppressors a voice🥰

    • @Eva-zo4sp
      @Eva-zo4sp 6 місяців тому

      because you completely disagree with them. There's plenty of people who are in the middle ideologically. Some people might not think about trans people at all or even be trans supporters but still believe all the misinformation around on this topic. Here, they can hear what trans athletes have to say about it, instead of what transphobic right wing politicians have to say about it. @@nozers

    • @wigglewaggle3606
      @wigglewaggle3606 6 місяців тому +4

      @@steviek27Giving everyone a voice is important…if you don’t like that then why do you live in America when that is one of the biggest values this country was built on.
      You don’t like people you see as transphobic, people who are actually transphobic don’t like trans people. If you think people you see as transphobic don’t deserve a voice then they can make the same assertion about you. Freedom of speech means freedom of speech for everyone.
      What if black people weren’t allowed to speak because they were seen as uncivilized? (Much like how you see transphobes as uncivilized.)
      What if women still weren’t allowed to speak or vote due to being seen as inferior?
      What if scientists who believed the Sun was at the center of our galaxy weren’t allowed to speak because they were seen as lunatics?
      Progress doesn’t occur in a society that censors free speech…look at North Korea.

    • @zodiac5403
      @zodiac5403 6 місяців тому +1

      @@wigglewaggle3606 That fact that you see the people who are actively discriminating as the same as the people who were and at time still are being discriminated against is wild. Transphobes are not the same as black people, women or scientists because while they were speaking for their rights and facts, transphobes are speaking against rights and only take parts of things to back up their claim and deny things when given clear evidence. This is like saying " but how can you see 2 sides of the debate if you don't give a Nazi a voice and only allow Jews to speak". It's not about civility it's about being downright immoral and cruel.

  • @turtlegirl13107
    @turtlegirl13107 6 місяців тому +31

    I would love to have a look at a conversation between people with multiple personality disorder. I’ve been curious about the differences in the ways they live their lives, and this series seems to be exactly what I need

    • @fil0sofia
      @fil0sofia 6 місяців тому +2

      Ooh that would be interesting. Bring back the DID people! :)

    • @ollieroo3334
      @ollieroo3334 6 місяців тому +7

      I doubt I would make it into the episode, but as someone with DID (dissociative identity disorder, formerly known as multiple personality disorder) I would LOVE to see an episode about and centering the voices of us, or even talk on the show my/ourself!

    • @hiimapotato123
      @hiimapotato123 6 місяців тому

      @@ollieroo3334In case you didn’t know if you want to check it out, Anthony did a video interviewing people with DID!

  • @jonteguy
    @jonteguy 6 місяців тому +7

    I love when people who don’t do sports wants to decide what is allowed in X sport.

  • @roderickbawcutt
    @roderickbawcutt 6 місяців тому +11

    The upcoming PWHL (Profesional Women's Hockey League) allows trans women and non binary people to play in their league and that alone is some amazing progress for allowing trans people in sports leagues

    • @carmen3091
      @carmen3091 6 місяців тому +3

      Another subsidized league. Lol the women's soccer being subsidized and them still being mad, "why don't we get paid more" lol

  • @emilygordon7522
    @emilygordon7522 6 місяців тому +15

    Are there any links to some of these cited studies by doctors that we can check out?

    • @user-db6dq6je3r
      @user-db6dq6je3r 6 місяців тому +9

      ​@urbanistiq8009 There's actually a fair amount of pay-walled research. There is a lot of greed in academic publishing which hurt researchers.

    • @nightmares356
      @nightmares356 4 місяці тому +1

      No there isn’t lol

  • @davkar6963
    @davkar6963 6 місяців тому +10

    hey real question,im trying to study anatomy and get good at it,this conversation is really interresting but i have a doubt,dont men have structural advantage on oxigenation,adrenaline, and processing high-heat,like seketon and shit? i still have to get a look at this because is a real hard thing to study
    sorry for the bad english yall

    • @p-__
      @p-__ 6 місяців тому

      My farts are better than Anthony’s farts 💨

    • @Hammusy
      @Hammusy 6 місяців тому +4

      That is right but no one want to hear the subjective infos and live with them

    • @kenzie4870
      @kenzie4870 4 місяці тому +2

      No you’re right but the issue is all the focus ends up on the hormones which is only half of the reason trans women have advantages. They forget that all the structural differences biological men are born with can’t and won’t disappear with the hormone treatment. So there is still an advantage

  • @freckled-jellyfish
    @freckled-jellyfish 6 місяців тому +6

    I don't quite understand why people feel the need for another channel doing videos with "the other side" or opposing viewpoint. There are already channels like that out there. It shouldn't be an issue having to listen to (in this case) trans people just talking about their experiences without some cis person interrupting them.
    I am a cis person but I find it so refreshing to just hear them talk without them having to justify every single question from someone else who might've been uneducated. Because most likely that's something they already have to deal with on a daily basis, why can't this just be a safe place for them to talk about what they feel.
    In Anthony's "I spend a day with" series technically there's not really two different viewpoints either most of the time. So why is that ok and this is suddenly a burden to watch ?

  • @enso8379
    @enso8379 6 місяців тому +51

    Love the new format. Thank you for all the work that went into it, and for the guests insights.

  • @PandaBearBat
    @PandaBearBat 6 місяців тому +33

    The only thing missing from this conversation is non Trans athletes. If your looking for assumptions having everyone at the table is more of a true conversation.

    • @umtic
      @umtic 6 місяців тому +9

      this channel is not a debate channel. It's a documentary channel

    • @varonica544
      @varonica544 4 місяці тому +9

      Still. Its just misinforming people. Because anyone with common sense knows that “trans women” definitely do have a advantage against biological women. Lia Thomas is a PRIME example.

    • @umtic
      @umtic 4 місяці тому

      @@varonica544 you clearly don't want trans people to exist then. I'm personally skeptical of idea of trans women competing against women, but I don't write trans women in quotation marks and I accept they are still women

    • @jackaleope
      @jackaleope 4 місяці тому +3

      @@varonica544be quiet.

    • @sondraann3025
      @sondraann3025 4 місяці тому +7

      ​@@varonica544finally. I was looking through the comments for someone to state the obvious

  • @LuminousStar.
    @LuminousStar. 6 місяців тому +7

    If Ben Shapiro was 'debating' against ppl like this, he would actually break down lmao

    • @Hammusy
      @Hammusy 6 місяців тому

      😅😂😂😂😂

    • @kylespevak6781
      @kylespevak6781 5 днів тому

      Not really, this is just an echo chamber. Caitlyn Jenner disagrees with them and is an Olympic gold metal athlete turned trans. Clearly has more merit than two people who run (and can't get notority without being trans) and a mid-bmx

  • @leticiahaertel5994
    @leticiahaertel5994 6 місяців тому +2

    As one myself, I’d love to see an episode of “assumptions” with people w/ narcolepsy ❤ looking forward to the next episodes!

  • @gurnoorsekhon6402
    @gurnoorsekhon6402 6 місяців тому +5

    Why is the reverse never seen? Where a female transitioned to male and then absolutely destroyed the competition? If there have been such cases, I would love to read those and be educated. Link them to me.

    • @zodiac5403
      @zodiac5403 6 місяців тому

      Patricio Manuel (boxer), Quinn (football), Ness Murby (olympic medal winner). Look them up. It's never brought up because that would go against their argument of "biological male better than female"

    • @CoraTerrion-lp7ki
      @CoraTerrion-lp7ki 6 місяців тому

      ​@@zodiac5403oh heck yeah, i was just about to type this comment

    • @gurnoorsekhon6402
      @gurnoorsekhon6402 6 місяців тому +1

      @@zodiac5403 what? Just checked. Ness Murby is Paralympic winner i.e. disabled AND was in the women's division. Quinn too played in the women's division. Patricio doesn't fit either. Ranked 111# in the division.
      I just googled but perhaps you have something more specific

  • @reiha7320
    @reiha7320 6 місяців тому +31

    Loving this! and looking forward to more of this series! i would be interested in an assumptions episode on kink with all that no kink at pride controversity and all.. also if at all possible an episode on did systems? although that might be hard to do.

    • @Mars-jf4gy
      @Mars-jf4gy 6 місяців тому +6

      I’d be really interested in that first topic. Though personally my opinion is to separate pride based on when kink is and isn’t allowed, so that everyone is of age and consenting to possibly see kink gear. I’ve heard a lot of interesting opinions on it though, I’d love to hear more.

    • @carmen3091
      @carmen3091 6 місяців тому +2

      Kink is too involved in the community. I am part of the community and have seen many others like me that don't like drag or a lot of the sexual parts about it during pride.

    • @carmen3091
      @carmen3091 6 місяців тому +2

      ​@MrRandomCan that's the thing, I can't even go to a pride event without feeling uncomftortable or seeing kids at the front of a drag stage. All this can't be avoided that's why I don't consider myself an active follower of the LGB community. I call it LGB like other gay people do for a reason....

    • @sushiroll3795
      @sushiroll3795 6 місяців тому +7

      The "kink at pride" discourse is so incredibly annoying because to bigots, every queer identity is considered a "kink."
      Also, if it wasn't for groups like drag queens (which aren't inherently a kink BTW), BDSM peeps, and leather daddies, the queer rights movement wouldn't be nearly as successful as it is.

  • @RobertDW1
    @RobertDW1 4 місяці тому +9

    When you got a man that was ranked somewhere in the 400’s in Swimming and then pretends to be a woman and gets 1st place it’s very clear he has a huge biological advantage.

    • @nullcoreproject
      @nullcoreproject 4 місяці тому

      were they on HRT? for how many months? those are very important factors, obviously a biological male that hasn't undergone HRT for a certain period of time will dominate biological females.

    • @RobertDW1
      @RobertDW1 4 місяці тому +3

      @@nullcoreproject
      No.
      FINA finally banned William Thomas.

    • @ranouma147
      @ranouma147 3 місяці тому +1

      @@nullcoreprojectThat doesn’t matter, male puberty brings the most advantages.

  • @lex_the_leo
    @lex_the_leo 6 місяців тому

    So, so excited for the gay pastor ep!!!
    I would LOVE to see a conversation about assumptions people have of ethically non-monogamous/polyamorous people!!

  • @sorekcazimi
    @sorekcazimi 6 місяців тому +26

    Great to see a video where trans athletes are able to chat amongst themselves/with people who are already acquainted with the topic!
    Also, not every discussion is a debate. It’s not an “echo chamber” when three trans people get together to talk ABOUT trans ppl’s concerns. It’s called having a fucking conversation.
    By this logic I hope you also spam “echo chamber” every time there are only cis people in a video about gender lmao

    • @ProfessorPrel
      @ProfessorPrel 6 місяців тому +3

      Too be fair, all of Anthonys videos are like this. He never really brings up any counterarguments to the people he talk to. Thinking he would do so now is unlikely based on all his other videos

    • @thetrain47539
      @thetrain47539 6 місяців тому +10

      Echo chambers are when you organise an entire conversation with just people who agree with you. That is EXACTLY what this is.

    • @CoraTerrion-lp7ki
      @CoraTerrion-lp7ki 6 місяців тому

      ​@@thetrain47539like every single time fox or literally any other conservative media outlet has talked about trans people? Like when they get all the cis people on tv and all tell us how trans=bad and cis=good.

    • @umtic
      @umtic 6 місяців тому +3

      ​@@ProfessorPrelit's because Anthony's videos are not about debating and reaching conclusions, but see views and life styles of people. do you want people to debate in documentaries?

    • @umtic
      @umtic 6 місяців тому +1

      ​@@thetrain47539yes and what's wrong with echo chambers?

  • @brittanyself7385
    @brittanyself7385 6 місяців тому +125

    As a female wrestler i can say men have the advantage physically. Men transitioning to women and wrestling women is unfair.

    • @gilbertnavarrette4806
      @gilbertnavarrette4806 6 місяців тому +42

      @@urbanistiq8009yeah but this is still someone who has first hand experience with stuff like this, but someone who just watches from afar

    • @ItsAK69
      @ItsAK69 6 місяців тому +25

      ​@@urbanistiq8009and you are?

    • @gilbertnavarrette4806
      @gilbertnavarrette4806 6 місяців тому +10

      @@urbanistiq8009*not someone who just watches from afar

    • @ohsupdom
      @ohsupdom 6 місяців тому +1

      ​@@urbanistiq8009​You have to be an expert to know that men are physically superior to women...?

    • @Redhood878
      @Redhood878 6 місяців тому

      I feel both are unfair if we say it for men u have 2 loop women into it 2

  • @dexterrkk3711
    @dexterrkk3711 6 місяців тому +2

    Bring a person who disagrees with you challenge (impossible)

    • @rhymerlegend2717
      @rhymerlegend2717 6 місяців тому

      Nah they would never shatter their echo chamber 😂

  • @videocam23
    @videocam23 6 місяців тому +4

    unrelated but the girl in the middle ???? her shoulders are so beautiful??? i didnt even know shoulders COULD be beautiful. awestruck truly....

  • @Jiddy12345
    @Jiddy12345 6 місяців тому +20

    Why would a person flip their entire world upside down trying to be their most authentic, genuine self just to win some swim meets? They wouldn't.

    • @MicrowavedFurby
      @MicrowavedFurby 6 місяців тому +6

      If trans people are very adamant about gender and sex being separate, why are they bringing gender into sports?

    • @Jiddy12345
      @Jiddy12345 6 місяців тому +4

      Gender and sex aren't the same thing... @@MicrowavedFurby

    • @Jiddy12345
      @Jiddy12345 6 місяців тому +1

      Of course not. They transitioned to see the reflection of themselves in the mirror they want to be. @@avamin0s

    • @wigglewaggle3606
      @wigglewaggle3606 6 місяців тому +1

      @@Jiddy12345You’re right. But since you’re right…there have to therefore be differences between cis women and trans women.

    • @Jiddy12345
      @Jiddy12345 6 місяців тому +1

      @@wigglewaggle3606 google is free and easy to use...

  • @MamaMushii
    @MamaMushii 6 місяців тому +10

    I would love to see people who left their religion. Any type of faith

  • @amandabisby3546
    @amandabisby3546 6 місяців тому +4

    This conversation definitely opened my eyes to some things, especially the first segment.
    However, I do wish another perspective could be shown separately as well since I did look up what was referenced in the first section and actually found the results on trans women having a biological advantage over cis women to be inconclusive rather than definitively debunking it from what I could find.
    Of course I do appreciate giving people a space to talk about their issues without feeling the need to defend themselves against an opposing side though, so that’s a refreshing take compared to Jubilee.
    It’s so important that people have the freedom to speak out without feeling judged so they can get their authentic thoughts out there.

    • @cngotham4111
      @cngotham4111 6 місяців тому +3

      Yes they straight up was wrong in certain topics which I already knew do to prior research.

    • @umtic
      @umtic 6 місяців тому

      this is a hard topic be accurate in research because there aren't much trans female athletes

    • @umtic
      @umtic 6 місяців тому

      ​@@cngotham4111it's okay to be wrong

    • @cngotham4111
      @cngotham4111 6 місяців тому

      @umtic it is but when your having a specific topic in hand with time to research before going then it's kinda bizarre.

    • @umtic
      @umtic 6 місяців тому

      @@cngotham4111 do people who interview others like Joe Rogan do any research beforehand? no they don't. you are too used to content that people like Oompaville does or Vsauce does it looks like, which is way different than these type of videos which are not meant to definitive or conclusive

  • @ickystickynicky4620
    @ickystickynicky4620 6 місяців тому

    As a huge fan of cal and someone who got to see him during his run across America I'm so happy to see him in a space like this!

  • @reialove7274
    @reialove7274 6 місяців тому +6

    Anthony and Ian is and always will be the GOATs 🐐 🙌 of UA-cam!!!
    im also excited about the Disney adults

  • @drewlovelyhell4892
    @drewlovelyhell4892 6 місяців тому +9

    1:09 Being biologically male in a female sport is "not an advantage"? That's unequivocally false. And to suggest that the teams aren't full of transgenders proves it, is fallacious.

  • @man-eater2634
    @man-eater2634 6 місяців тому

    Thank you so much Anthony for not only using your platform to bring awareness to the issue but also stepping back and having Trans people talk about this topic. It was nice to see someone take themselves out of a topic that doesn't affect them and allow others, those who are affected to, and bring their voices to light. I don't think you understand how much this means to people, including me.

  • @Nii_chi
    @Nii_chi 6 місяців тому +1

    wishing to have an assumptions episode with neurodivergent people just for more better understanding of their situation today as though it seems like the topic is getting more and more popular. I would also like to know their opinions regarding self diagnosing oneself with being neurodivergent. I hope more greatness like this will come from this series (just watched the other video about acesexuality and it is so amazing for anthony and his team to actually give these people more voices)

  • @d.-nf6lb
    @d.-nf6lb 6 місяців тому +44

    This is amazing, there are so many great groups you could bring to this show format

    • @p-__
      @p-__ 6 місяців тому

      My farts are better than Anthony's farts

  • @jimmyhyun8546
    @jimmyhyun8546 5 місяців тому +9

    By the conclusion of Thomas's swimming career at UPenn in 2022, her rank had moved from 65th on the men's team to 1st on the women's team in the 500-yard freestyle, and 554th on the men's team to fifth on the women's team in the 200-yard freestyle.
    She was mediocre under the men's side to beating 3 Olympians. But no advantage. BS.

  • @get.axolotld
    @get.axolotld 6 місяців тому

    Would love to see some of the people interviewed with different stigmatized disorders sit down together! Such as the folks from i spent a day with people with DID and the episode about Borderline Personality Disorder.
    Both disorders face alot pf stigma not only with the public but within the community of medical professionals meant to help treat us. (Like how many therapists will turn away patients with BPD.) It would be interesting to see those conversations and hear about their experiences living openly with those disorders.

  • @tynebaker
    @tynebaker 6 місяців тому +3

    Great work Nicole! This is an excellent new format. Looking forward to seeing more discussions like this one.

  • @mariestacey4665
    @mariestacey4665 6 місяців тому +8

    I love that you're starting this new series, and it's awesome that the asexual episode is next week!

  • @mxmangobutt
    @mxmangobutt 6 місяців тому +130

    So much better than Jubilee, thank you so much Anthony! I enjoy seeing this kind of content from you and your team! So cool that Nicole is part of such amazing pieces of media, conversation, and education! Love, love, love!!!

    • @p-__
      @p-__ 6 місяців тому +1

      My farts are better than Anthony's farts.

    • @carmen3091
      @carmen3091 6 місяців тому +23

      This was an echo chamber, not better than jubilee

    • @__hazel.
      @__hazel. 6 місяців тому

      @@carmen3091Jubilee platforms harmful people and tries to legitimize damaging opinions

    • @Fadzom
      @Fadzom 6 місяців тому +18

      Dude Jubilie makes conversation... this is an echo chamber... This whole video provided literally no value lmao
      this is a LITERAL ECHO CHAMBER

    • @tomtenisse823
      @tomtenisse823 6 місяців тому +14

      @Fadzom Dude. The purpose here is not to "spark debate", it is about making voices heard when a question concerns a specifik group (in this case trans athletes - therefore trans athletes speak in the video), talking about THE ASSUMPTIONS they face.

  • @johnscarce1612
    @johnscarce1612 6 місяців тому +1

    I would love to hear assumptions about schizophrenia. It’s just so insane to me that even in nursing school people learn about schizophrenic people and they think they’re like some weaker stumbling around in the world that need to be straight jacketed.

  • @bananaman5590
    @bananaman5590 12 днів тому +1

    As a customer male who’s been an athlete for his entire life, I can’t imagine telling someone they can’t play in a way that’s comfortable for them. I’ve seen hundreds of great athletes, and I can’t believe someone would want to take that spark away from them, that passion. That being said, this is a new topic, it’s not black and white. It’s important to have discussions and more importantly we have to try things, we’re not going to get rules and regulations down the first go. I’m not a trans person, I don’t know what trans athletes need, trans people do.

  • @trxpedminds3119
    @trxpedminds3119 6 місяців тому +21

    the video has been out for 7 minutes yet people already have opinions formed about it 💀 watch it before commenting mfs

    • @p-__
      @p-__ 6 місяців тому

      My farts are better than Anthony's farts.

    • @MicrowavedFurby
      @MicrowavedFurby 6 місяців тому

      If sex and gender aren't the same, why is this even a conversation?

    • @MicrowavedFurby
      @MicrowavedFurby 6 місяців тому +3

      @@avamin0s you need to go back to biology class

    • @MicrowavedFurby
      @MicrowavedFurby 6 місяців тому +4

      ​@@avamin0s That's exactly my point. It IS about penises/vaginas and chromosomes. What does a social construct have to do with an objective reality? We're not talking about concepts. You can very easily define male or female just by looking at whether or not their can bear a child for example. Why are we bringing feelings into a physical competition?