Greaseweazle External 5.25 Adapter

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  • Опубліковано 24 лис 2024

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  • @rick420buzz
    @rick420buzz Рік тому +23

    Your opening theme reminds me of 80s tech/computer TV shows.

    • @justine1816
      @justine1816 Рік тому

      Definitely Mr. Wizard vibes, too

  • @PixelMaker04
    @PixelMaker04 Рік тому +8

    All your linux tool usage keeps inching me closer to turning one of my spare laptops into a full-time linux box for purposes like this as I get more original disks and creating backups for my vintage machines.

    • @bluephreakr
      @bluephreakr Рік тому +3

      Just start. Today. I would explain how but something I wrote was eaten by the UA-cam bots. Sad really, nothing offensive was written.

    • @PixelMaker04
      @PixelMaker04 Рік тому

      @@bluephreakr I used to have MXLinux on my mobile station a few years back. We've got Ubuntu workstations at my workplace, so might as well use it more than testing different distros.

  • @T3hBeowulf
    @T3hBeowulf Рік тому +14

    Nice showcase!
    I built up a floppy featherwing from Adafruit to gain access to Greaseweasel based on a previous video of yours. I didn't go with an external enclosure though, just embraced the "80s clear electronics look" and used a rainbow colored ribbon on the bare drive.
    It's delightfully janky but worked surprisingly well.

  • @panchenima
    @panchenima Рік тому +3

    Great and simple project, a more aggresive but cleaner option could be to adapt the Greaseweasel inside the caddy and go direclty with the drive interface, of course you're stuck with a permanent modified enclosure and a Greaseweasel inside but the resultant will be cleaner.

  • @NJRoadfan
    @NJRoadfan Рік тому +13

    The 37-pin version was the "official" IBM external floppy port. The original IBM PC floppy controller featured it, as did the external adapter for the IBM PS/2 series.

    • @TechTangents
      @TechTangents  Рік тому +4

      I didn't actually think to check if that was the same as the IBM pinout, that would be awesome if it is, I don't know if those drives are that common but that would be nice if so!

    • @NJRoadfan
      @NJRoadfan Рік тому +5

      @@TechTangents Years ago, I had the official IBM external 5.25" drive kit for the PS/2. Contained a adapter that plugged directly where the second 3.5" drive would go which attached to a ribbon cable that went to a dummy Microchannel card with the DC-37 plug. The external drive was built like a tank (typical IBM) and had it's own built in power supply.

  • @Anaerin
    @Anaerin Рік тому +9

    Fun fact: UAE (Or at least, WinUAE) supports using the GreaseWeazle natively for Amiga disks.

    • @tspawn35
      @tspawn35 Рік тому

      That doesn't surprise me only because the GreaseWeazle is how I get adf files on to a disk to use on my Amiga. WinUAE is used for so many things when it comes to the Amiga.

  • @pauledwards2817
    @pauledwards2817 Рік тому +4

    Certainly seems the best of the flux readers and so pleased to see it being used with the decoded img. So many times I have seen downloaded flux images that are unreadable when the fm/mfm could have been verified at the read time. The Gw does a good job writing too.

  • @UnbornApple
    @UnbornApple Рік тому +1

    This is rad. I set up my greaseweazle a few months ago. I ended up using an enclosure from an dead external USB CD-ROM drive. Unfortunately I couldn’t use the power supply because it would only put out 12 volts when it was connected to a USB. This is a much better solution.

  • @quatolive
    @quatolive Рік тому +3

    Very nice! I have a Greaseweazle and a 5.25" drive myself (NEC FD1157C), nice seeing a video being made about FluxEngine too!

  • @TheFlameeyes
    @TheFlameeyes Рік тому +1

    I remember thinking this was totally normal, because my sister's Amstrad 2286 had an internal 3.5"… and an external 5.25" on a Centronics port. I didn't even realize how odd it was until years later.

  • @genderender
    @genderender Рік тому +5

    Damn this is really neat. Would be really fun to see a greaseweasel driver for emulators. Wine has had CD rom support for years

  • @jeromethiel4323
    @jeromethiel4323 Рік тому +1

    Grease weazel is a crazy good name.

  • @AiOinc1
    @AiOinc1 Рік тому +1

    The Macintosh II and other NuBus Macs also had the ability to run a 5.25" floppy drive from a PC with a special card.

  • @Okurka.
    @Okurka. Рік тому +25

    Please use oval/oblong pads where possible if a board is going to be hand-soldered; that's a lot easier to solder than those tiny pads.
    Also, the Density Select trace is very close to pin 14 in the original design; there's enough space to route it differently.

  • @stargazersfield
    @stargazersfield 9 місяців тому +1

    Dude! A friend pointed me to your channel. Your videos are super helpful. Thanks. I wish I could absorb all the videos quicker. 😂

  • @SynthwaveDuck
    @SynthwaveDuck Рік тому +1

    This is a simple hack but a great achievement. It is a big coup for legacy access. Great job. Did not know of the Greazeweazel previously too. Thanks!

  • @ThatMatt85
    @ThatMatt85 Рік тому

    this is like a dream come true for me

  • @mrlithium69
    @mrlithium69 Рік тому

    I love this kind of kit

  • @Martipar
    @Martipar Рік тому +1

    Another great video making creating interfaces and adaptors for old kit. I have a Creative Audigy 2 ZS Notebook sound card which i acquired cheaply as it doesn't have the breakout cable and I cannot find one for sale anywhere, not even a clone. Is there any way you could look into making one and help those of us out without the skills to do so?

  • @joshuamacdonald4913
    @joshuamacdonald4913 Рік тому +1

    I have been thinking about making an external 5 1/4" drive but if I can find one of these I would prefer it.

  • @shaunclarke94
    @shaunclarke94 Рік тому

    Given that DB25 cable carries 5V and 12V power, you'd want to be damn sure that the pinout is correct before powering up a drive you aren't 100% sure of as otherwise damage is very likely.

  • @MarkTheMorose
    @MarkTheMorose Рік тому

    Golden Image; ah, a name familiar to UK Amiga users for their high quality mice, and other peripherals.

  • @peterwhite9546
    @peterwhite9546 Рік тому

    this has the same feeling to it as the 2011 macbook egpu mod

  • @hstrinzel
    @hstrinzel Рік тому +2

    Wow, quite something! Would this also be able to READ APPLE II 143K 5 1/4 inch floppies? Those had the "WOZ"-controller.

  • @tomlake2732
    @tomlake2732 Рік тому

    What I did was just connect the drive to the GW using a standard floppy cable, plugging the power supply directly into the drive and bypassing the external interface but keeping the case. Why introduce the needless complexity of an extra board?

  • @bennysnod4928
    @bennysnod4928 Рік тому

    I'm going to name my first kid grease weasel

  • @86Box
    @86Box Рік тому

    10:14 yo this emulator looks kinda cool 👀

  • @janpedersen9120
    @janpedersen9120 Рік тому

    anyone can make a link to that molex power angled connector? what ever i search on amazon og google never finds this used here.

  • @jscipione
    @jscipione Рік тому

    Handy if you have that external enclosure

  • @CRYPTiCEXiLE
    @CRYPTiCEXiLE Рік тому +1

    pretty neat !

  • @neverthere5689
    @neverthere5689 Рік тому

    Lol this is exactly what I need both the 5.25 drive the adapter and even the IMB version of DoS you used. I need disks so I can use my Pc-7500 and see if it’s workinf

  • @CoelacanthusHex
    @CoelacanthusHex 9 місяців тому

    Which Greaseweazle case do you use? I like. it's beautiful.

  • @richardepps8500
    @richardepps8500 Рік тому +2

    Greaseweazle!!!

  • @muttBunch
    @muttBunch Рік тому

    In the UK they pronounce it “tee ak” but the originals from Japan pronounce it “teek”. But either way, I dig the video.

    • @nickwallette6201
      @nickwallette6201 Рік тому +1

      Not sure what "the originals from Japan" means, but from my (limited) understanding of Japanese, there's really no way to end a word in a hard consonant "k" sound. In the basic sound primitives, there are vowels, the lone standalone consonant (that is, 'n'), and (what would be, in English) two- and three-letter combinations like 'wa', 'do', 'shi', 'kyo', etc..
      So, for a native pronunciation of "Teac", it would end up being "te-a-ku" (phonetically, "teh ah ku") or something similar.
      That said, AFAIK, the official pronunciation is "TEE-ack". I'm sure "TEEK" reads correctly somewhere in the world, but in US English, that would be either "Teec" or "Teak". Although I'm not sure what the origin of "Teac" actually is, and standard English rules (insofar as such a thing even exists) may not apply, so anything's possible, I guess.

    • @Sputnik1985
      @Sputnik1985 11 місяців тому

      In Japanese, teac is not pronounced as teek.
      Tee-ack or tee-ak is the closest.
      When written in katakana, it is "ティアック".

  • @MatroxMillennium
    @MatroxMillennium Рік тому

    I'm not sure about the 25-pin being the more common, I have three of these drives that use the 37-pin

  • @dsfdfssqdfsqfdfqsd4235
    @dsfdfssqdfsqfdfqsd4235 Рік тому

    Nice !

  • @UpLateGeek
    @UpLateGeek Рік тому

    I like to think that it's pronounced the way Big Clive pronounced grease as "greez", so it would be "greezweazle".

  • @lovemadeinjapan
    @lovemadeinjapan 7 місяців тому

    This looks so easy, where in reality it is not. I get to the point the drive starts spinning. Thats all. We need a good explanation about wiring, device ID's, cable twists, jumper settings, choosing the right drive, dealing with "no track 0 found" errors and such.

  • @Mr_Meowingtons
    @Mr_Meowingtons Рік тому +3

    im a bit nuts i would stick it right inside that box and add a USB port..

    • @tspawn35
      @tspawn35 Рік тому +1

      I did that with my GreaseWeazle. I use it was a 3.5 disk drive. Bought an enclosure that houses the GreaseWeazle and the disk drive. It's nice.

    • @cnvogel
      @cnvogel Рік тому +1

      💯% my thoughts :-) make a nice power input on the back, maybe even put a step down in it for good measure and use a 12V wall wart only 🤩
      But yes, this would maximize usability at the cost of defacing the original external drive enclosure… So I can understand why it’s not done.

  • @ZeroWalker26
    @ZeroWalker26 Рік тому

    Man that neat and handy to have awesome. Aslo want to ask what Linux do you use it looks so clean and neat.

  • @CounterStriker013009
    @CounterStriker013009 Рік тому

    Can use this tech to save the old data

  • @nil2k
    @nil2k 7 місяців тому

    I probably would have put the greaseweazle inside of the case and replaced the cable exiting the enclosure with USB.

  • @agentidle734
    @agentidle734 8 місяців тому

    Great work ! , Does this also work with a Commodore 1011 drive ? thx

  • @Good-eh8yv
    @Good-eh8yv Рік тому

    SK-6000 E Vintage Ergonomic PS/2 Computer Keyboard ..
    computer recognizes the device but it does not work / when I go to the drivers it appears missing. I've already scanned the internet and I can't find it. Could you help me?

  • @ButilkaRomm
    @ButilkaRomm Рік тому

    It is only for floppy imaging. You can not access directly the contents of the floppy disk with DOS or File Explorer, right?

  • @RetroJay1974
    @RetroJay1974 Рік тому +2

    I have an external 5.25 drive which has a 25pin lead. Where can I obtain these adapters already built? if not where can I buy the pcb? excellent design btw and thank you for making it :)

  • @cesar8ramirez
    @cesar8ramirez 9 місяців тому

    where can I find this drive model? If it's hard to find, which 5.25" floppy drive hardware do you recommend purchasing?

  • @thany3
    @thany3 Рік тому +1

    Does the greaseweasel not provide enough power by itself? It's on USB after all. It could pull 2A/5V (usually) and provide that to the disk drive. Surely that'll be enough for a disk drive?

    • @wmlindley
      @wmlindley Рік тому +1

      Some 5.25" drives also need 12V for the stepper motor.

    • @thany3
      @thany3 Рік тому +1

      @@wmlindley Easy to solve with a step-up converter, as long as the USB bus provides enough watts. And the little board looks like it still has plenty of space for that.
      And even if not enough USB power, you can always go USB-C 😎

  • @drzeissler
    @drzeissler 9 місяців тому

    I need something for Dos/Win9x max. Win2k and USB 2. Does the software work on this?

  • @scottiepal3029
    @scottiepal3029 7 місяців тому

    I want one. Where can I Get it. Because I’ve been wanting to do this. I don’t have an external 525 drive but I want one with USB.

  • @erikmerchant567
    @erikmerchant567 Рік тому

    Will this setup work for the IBM external floppy drives for the PS/2?

  • @Marshaluranus
    @Marshaluranus Рік тому

    the past is now old man

  • @zeku77777
    @zeku77777 8 місяців тому

    Where can I buy such an adapter?

  • @wearwolf2500
    @wearwolf2500 Рік тому

    I recall hearing that there are issues getting the flux data for 360k disks from 1.2M drives. Does something in the FD-55GFR/Greaseweasel/FluxEngine stack handle that or am I miss remembering? I'm looking to get a drive for imagining so it would be nice to know if I should really try to get an FD-55GFR in order to avoid the need to get a seperate 360k drive.

    • @brandonupchurch7628
      @brandonupchurch7628 Рік тому

      In general you can read a 360k floppy fine in both a 360k drive and a 1.2M drive but because the 1.2M drive will have a head half the pitch of a 360k drive, 360k disks written in a 1.2M drive may not work well in 360k drives or even another 1.2M drive.

  • @xero110
    @xero110 Рік тому +1

    While I have no desire to do so. Do you or the community in general, have an issue with reselling pre-built PCBs for an upcharge? I’ve seen some people selling projects like this. So as long as proper credit is given to the project, how do you feel about this?

  • @probablyanadult7354
    @probablyanadult7354 Рік тому

    Wonder if there is a power supply like the molex but with sata power.

  • @infinitecanadian
    @infinitecanadian Рік тому

    Why did you sound unsure that you were going to be able to release this?

  • @JimLeonard
    @JimLeonard Рік тому

    Can it write flux images back to a blank diskette?

    • @TechTangents
      @TechTangents  Рік тому +4

      I have done it with the Greaseweazle using a 360k drive to a 360k disk before but I probably wouldn't use this setup for writing disks with the 80 track drive since writing 360k disks is more useful. But writing flux back is definitely possible. I've read that it's not preferable to do it since you are combining the timing tolerance issues of the original drive that wrote the imaged disk and your drive's own tolerance issues. Personally I would still do it but just be aware of what problems can happen.

  • @perinoid
    @perinoid Рік тому

    An interresting material. Maybe not the adapter itself, for me at least, but FluxEngine - yes. I tried to compile it on my Linux laptop (my basic machine) but failed with the GUI 😕And the command line tool itself is not that useful.

    • @perinoid
      @perinoid Рік тому

      Aaaand - I did it. Pretty useful GUI. I wonder if they will expand the image database.

  • @LawnMowersThingsThatMakeNoise
    @LawnMowersThingsThatMakeNoise 9 місяців тому

    is there anyone in england that could build me a board for my 5.25 drive please ?

  • @jessederue1418
    @jessederue1418 Рік тому

    What linux distro are you running?

  • @the-retro-center-espanol
    @the-retro-center-espanol Рік тому

    Ver best way to keep my bitcoin Wallet XD

  • @JohnSmith-xq1pz
    @JohnSmith-xq1pz Рік тому

    I blame Apple 😉

  • @MrNeverseeme
    @MrNeverseeme Рік тому

    YYYYYYYYYYYY CANT IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII..................

  • @FargetNamesly
    @FargetNamesly Рік тому

    3 weeks no video, what am I paying for?

  • @Tuxy79
    @Tuxy79 Рік тому

    Noice

  • @jozsefizsak
    @jozsefizsak Рік тому

    Very good!