KTM - ABS and Cornering ABS Explained | Motorcycle Stability Control
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- Опубліковано 26 чер 2017
- Motorcycle Stability Control ensures more safety while braking. MSC is based on an angle-and-tilt ‘philosophy’ to ensure that the rider is supported in ALL situations under braking. Not only during slowing down and acceleration in a straight line but also in corners while leant over. MSC also reduces the uplift when braking hard in corners to help keep a tighter line. The additional electronic control of brake distribution between the two wheels ensures that the braking forces are applied as smoothly as possible and the motorcycle is further stabilized.
Cornering ABS has a complex and difficult job. It must determine not only wheel speeds, but also cornering forces and lean angles, and constantly and rapidly calculate what proportion of full braking force, called for by the rider, may be applied to the individual brakes. This requires accurate and fast-acting sensors, computing power, and actuators, along with complex software. - Авто та транспорт
To all the people saying ABS is for the noobs : the best pilot is the alive one.
ABS is for noobs.
Imo the supersport ridden raw is the way but I ride it as a toy not as a commuter so I don't ride in the wet and at night. I assume if you use it as a commuter you want all the aids in the world to handle every condition except snow.
Yannis Tocreau i agree with you.. We all want to be safely reached the destination..
Authentic Max if abs really that noob, then why you still riding with helmet and other protecting gear? Dont use it, its also for "noob"
I don't.
Well respect for the driver driving the non ABS bike to have willingly, (and expertly) fell for the sake of our knowledge!
well i have been struggling all my life
to get sixpack abs.....
hemanth kumar ha ha....
Hans Irshad u r from ?
shafeed p.y US
Hans Irshad keep it up brow....
oh fucking american.....
Really good technology but...
They are cornering at completely different angles. 1:50 The non ABS is nearly knee down, the ABS is nearly up straight
I think that's where they started breaking, the guy looks like his kneeling but is in fact dropping? As you can see the abs bike stand up due to the abs braking
To be fair the rider knows hes going to lowside and has prepositioned himsrlf for the fall. Anyway at about 1:40 it looks like the new bike is lent over further.
They were trying make us fool...But its all depen on how u ride in cornering condition
shhhh don't ruin the brain washing
... and speed is also higher and the force on the lever is higher...
What ever technology comes in the real skill depends on the rider... technology just helps rider to give a better performance 👍👍
Without technology there is no rider and riders performance....
Yeah bro that's true
But technology does matter for the overall performance for the driver and the vehicle
Exactly 👌🏼
Is there any sort technology in RX 100
Answer is no and its is considered as best stunt bike
I have cornering abs with traction control on my kawasaki ninja, it save me from crashing a couple of times. I have 17 years of riding experience but you cant always control other drivers and oil spills :)
Sometimes applying certain technologies to two wheel motorcycles is far more difficult than it is applying them to four wheel cars. Whether this is ultimately a wise application or not, it is impressive that it has been created.
Didn't realize my bike had this,I thought it was just regular ABS. Although this explains why I didn't take a slide during a rainy day emergency maneuver. I felt the bike almost correct itself,thought I imagined it.
What bike do you have?
@@JWard2 KTM Duke 390
@@dasdovian7785 duke hasn't got cornering abs yet, only RC 390 and up has. The Duke shown here is a duke 890. 2023 duke will get the MSC Cornering abs
When you have a paid rider for falling on purpose 😂
LOL
1:48 he's leaning like 10 degrees more in the no abs example, lol
@@0xsergy and he turned the handlebars too
"I had no choice but to put her down." 🤣👏👏👏
But in reality you fall just like he did.
after years of hardwork... ive finally bought a bicycle with cornering abs.😅😅
Hahaha noob
Ahmed Rivnat tu madre
Isn't that tough on shoes?
wtf are this replys
😂😂😂😄
how come the angle of the no abs is way to low compare with the ABS?
Because it's marketing nonsense... They are promoting their own product... That means biased and exaggerated results
papalums the no abs one is going to fall straight away from leaning, the abs one is not going to let you slip down, but it will force you to go upright ASAP, the cornering abs will let you brake and still maintaining your lean angle..
it's quite scary to turn right
papalums so when the guy hits the ground it's a little less scary probably. if you were gonna purposely low side wouldn't you wanna be as close to the ground as possible to not turn it into a high side.
Sweet Daddy or the rider doesn't wanna high side.
Poor stunt guy 😅
hes dead
damn his leg
Well he got payed *ALOT*
No way he’s poor..
wantafanta01 we wouldn’t have walked away for shit with a cotton T-shirt (assuming this is on asphalt) if you’ve seen crashes where the asphalt eats up metal foot pegs you’d know a 2mm thick cotton shirt won’t do jack shit for you.
That is phenomenal! How many lives are going to be saved by this!!
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@@3Andone3 🤣
Ktm bikes are THE safest bikes... they often brake down beforr you can even get into an accident😂
Did you own one?
@@deathrodamus9608 honestly, no but ive stayed away from them based of what ive read
Read again my dude i have a bare bones version of the above
KTM EXC-F 500
Best fucking bike ever just take of it
There's a reason you see them picked for dessert rally races because you can ride them like total shit clean it off and they just don't care
Im a Suzuki/Honda guy
But i bought one new and will never regret it
@@Skhillz_FN lol i sell my ktm last week
Pretty shitty tho
Ktms dirt bikes are worth the money the street bikes are trash
abs and stability control save so many peoples :)
no it depends on a driver. if the drivers always thinking of safeness of his or her car. the abs and stability are always in control too. but if you are too lazy for your safety in your vehicle there's always a posiblity of accidents.
where? and when?
yahh not all the times always negligence.
Negligence is all in the head, stupid riders' gonna be stupid. I've seen way too many crash videos of stupid people locking up their brakes and wiping out. Too fast, not enough attention, not enough skill, it's the squid way. Stupid quick, unskilled, ignorant and dangerous. Picking a bike with ABS over one without is a good sign that maybe you're not one of these people, as you've chosen to pay extra for a safety feature.
@@Harambe_ If that was so, why aren’t there more people driving like crazy in cars? It’s not because I have abs in my car, Inlike to brake very late, knowing my car would handle it....
If I knew abs could save my life I'd go to the gym everyday.
lol nice one
Make sure you exercise in the corner of the room, seems to work the best.
Underrated comment and reply😂
Corner abs are the one u should do...
😂
Ok UA-cam I have watched this video
Now leave me alone
Well i dislike the Unperferable recommendation. So UA-cam won't show similar recommendation again lol
Hhhhh I am in 2020 😭
You guys brought me here again by replying on this
@@unknownrider6 xD
hahahaha brooooo
We all know ABS saves lives . Even the most experienced rider can sometimes not stop on time without ABS .
maybe,....for people who do not have the skills to manage normal brakes.
Had to watch this video as just changed my Kawasaki versys 650 to KTM 790 adventure! a huge upgrade from old to new!
This appears on my recommendations since weeks. Now that I opened it finally I hope youtube is being satisfied at last and stops recommending it to me.
This is the video that made me understand the ABS technology 👍😎✌
your testers should be given medals, KTM.
In what comparing two different bikes with two different geometries, two different set of tires and two different lean angle demonstrate the effectiveness of ABS ?
I just love those big Lenses cameras, what a amazing technology ❤
Lesson 1: never brake at a corner.
Lesson 2: keep a good distance from vehicles ahead so you don't have to break at a corner.
Lesson three: Run straight into the deer crossing the road at night.
@@ExpressionOfNothing*Lesson 3: don't ride when it's pitch black!
Lesson 4: you save some money
@@masterraisernetwork1799 😂😂
lesson 5 dont ride a bike
Now imagine how good he would ride if all his gear was Orange.
abs cornering technology includes also the balancing of both brakes (rear and front), the technology that press only one brake work and balance both the brakes ?
the video is ultimate to understand and best way to watch
actually ABS and MSC really keeps you safe i love it!
@ 1:44 motorcyle with no ABS and MSC that situation happened to me once i almost flew off a 15ft cliff -_- i could've died though because my motorcycle don't have ABS and MSC
"...technology has allowed us to build more intelligent motorcycles"
human rider intelligence : -- meh -- -
Huuuuuh?
Wait what? Calculating a differential equation If (A) = Noob and (T) = time left to live then (C) 12000000MPH that's the speed of light or the fastest speed there is divided by 1 of the 4 working brain cells (( the one that is still talking to the others) They used to keep me up all night arguing) anyway, God I am glad we are done with that. So it is long and complicated but any help is appreciated.
The same with abs at cars
Car guys were like i am better and no need and and and
Nowdays these people are dead or in hospital in silence so no problem there anymore need sone time and cornering abs and abs is a must buy for motorcycle even gor the „pros“(Noobies)
great video and the content as well, it's informative
Needed to know about this thank you 👍
The lean angle was greater on the non abs bike than the abs bike.
nah, it was the same entry angle, it only shifted when he applied front brake
Who convinced the rider to brake in a corner with no abs😂
convinced with da money
Huh I also brake in corners and have no abs lol
Creates a saver ride agreed, but does it make a safer rider, or a complacent one.
Wow. This will save lives. Go go go ktm
No wonder I'm so lame at doing corners... Been skipping my sit up routine.
Even before abs was applied on motorcycle..cornering depends on the riders ability..
Su Alteza el Rey not all the time, a really experienced rider vs a rider who knows the basics of cornering. The old time rider will take for time to brake than the normal rider who used abs due to the fact the computer is faster to process data than that old time rider.
@@Dan_Moto i would rather take my time than relay on someone else just saying and ik abs is actually pretty safe but i won't take chances
Yes just like old time 🗿
Back then you need skills
Experienced rider himself is an AbS.
The skills and reflex can make him brake equivalent to abs.
Kya apache rtr 180(2017)model mein Abs off krne ki setting hai..?
so, according to the thumbnail, without ABS you can lean the bike like a demon ! #troll
G FR the thumbnail shows the moment the motorcycle goes down.
@@nikitaalyani4521 it's pun intended
MR. UNBOX didn‘t got that the #troll was invisible to me😂
i don't know about abs but i know to control sliding
Its more like, Assholes Brake System its anti socialdarwinism like seat belts.
The no abs clip is my biggest fear of riding motorcycles!
i lived through it despite abs...tyres where too cold and the bike dropped down a cliff, fortunately without me. still: abs is no guarantee for a safe stop
does this MSC cornering ABS comes in ktm 390 2017
ASOMBROSO! Q amor a la combinación de tecnología y dos ruedas, me encanta KTM
I ❤️ KTM
1:50 wtf who front brakes in a corner when bike is on angle
every capable rider
@@DerpEye lol K rossi boy
I see you don't ride 😂
can we add cornering ABS for KTM-250 ??
Awesome tech. But, if you're running into a corner too hot, it will probably be hard to train an experienced rider to try and stick to the line around the corner. Wouldn't you automatically react to stand the bike up and ride it out?
Just slow down and don’t stop slowing down until ur rolling safely most people just let go too much of the break which makes them fall over cause the bike catches traction faster than they would braking. Weird concept but what ever lean angle u create, don’t let go of either of brakes to fast. That’s most from my falls of 12 years of experience !
It's just a sale ...
At hi speeds a required skill is to know how to make your rear tire spin slightly slower than the front one it's hard.
I think abs disconnects you from the tires just like on a car it's all about skills and practice not abs ..
?question
Can you make a skid like when we where 7 years old. On a abs?
the real question is why would you want to skid on your bike. that's the least efficient way to break. If your tire isnt spinning it takes longer to stop.
I my opinion, abs allow more people to ride a motorcycle with less training. But I'm convinced that a pro rider could corner and stop a motorcycle just as good with or without abs or at least really small difference.
And what happens when the technology fails, which it most certainly will sooner rather than later. Less tech = less stuff that can go wrong. My advice is to learn to ride a motorcycle with minimal tech. That way, you will have muscle memory for whenever something do go wrong and better suited to handle any situation.
It's not worth to break bones to collect muscle memory. Also it's better to have hi-tech and not relying on it entirely.
On ktm rc 390 2017 have cornering abs?
cornering abs is present in duke 390?? also or not?
I like no abs
Makes you feel the bike more and become more skilled
DK : just pull handbrake and turn right to go left😂🔥
We ain't drifting here
@@frustratedgamer5131 I mean, they were doing rear tire brake skids so like 50% of the way there.
Now I understand what is ABS thanks KTM
Besides video🤗🤗
That background voice killing💝👌👌💗
"KTM cornering ABS explained" - > so, how does it work?
Exactly, not a word about that.
Secret
It s magic
takes imput from suspension and a gyro to properly modulate your break imput in a turn as to not make you run wide or lowside
1:50 the difference in lean angle lol
so when i get me one of these i can ride the Isle of Man TT?
WOW the technology is so SMOOTH
What I learned.....Don't brake in corners.
At least no front brake.
Yep! At least you can die with glory and honour if you meet an obstacle!
Changsoo Hahm do u Even ride a bike ?
Changsoo Hahm u can pull it in a corner !!!!!
unless you are on a bmw with telelever suspension
Which models have cornering abs?
Bavani Sankar this is India not us hahaha
2017 Duke 390 has cornering ABS
@@aakashdeep5238 doed 2018 duke 125 have it? I got it but not sure
BMW with riding modes PRO (they call it ABS PRO) and KTM like @Tim J said...
Now THAT'S impressive!
Thanks... Abs is mandatory on all motorcycles those are above 125cc in India from April 2020
SALUTE TO TEST RIDER✊✊😍
A genuine motorcyclist know when the motorcycle brand is trying to fool the riders.
@ 1:48
The NO ABS lean angle is a little bit low... Can you see it?
In what distance does it brake at a speed of 100 kilometers?
2:12 The No ABS leaning angle is way too low than the ABS ...comparision invalid
The angle isn’t too low he is falling...
So funny when this came up on UA-cam recommended at first glance I thought they were talking about six pack abs 🌚😂
Ahh Twitters alert comedy's dead 🙄
i had ridden motorbike with no abs (just abs, not abs cornering) for years and not even one crash when i was cornering, but when i rode abs motorcycle for a few days i crashed on cornering.. my left collarbone broken.. for now i don't trust abs anymore since then, i think the abs not good for hard late braking style on cornering.. or..anyone can give advice..? should i use abs..?
Best video I've ever seen.
and I've fucked up my wrest in a corner with a fucking scooter
fallen from the bike was scripted... 😁
Bhai bahot information mile video se
I always turned abs off when hitting a track, even on normal used abs off most of the time for me
I'm not as rich as you
In order to avoid these kind of accidents, Just Walk
You talk about abs....man my bike has no brake,no seat,no light,no engine am I pro??🤔🤔🤔
you are a bmx/trial rider
@@javirub97 my question was am I pro ,legend or something else
The ABS on my RC390 doesn't inspire confidence. I get very little feedback and it feels like I'm never going to stop. I upgraded to EBC brake pads, which helped with deceleration, but I still don't feel any tire bite... it feels really weird.
So why some of the units of KTM doesn't have abs like rc200 here in philippines
Cornering abs will contribute to the worlds overpopulation
That yamaha tenere is gorgeous!
slow mo please of the front wheel with ABS Cornering
I learnt one thing dont brake at corners
Just drift man 😂
Never crossed my mind that a made in India motorcycle can be this advance.
Leol Mondhol no longer, the factory is getting moved.
Leol Mondhol but their engineers and headquarters are still austrian. would you be surprised a phone thats made in chine could develop fingerprint securities? i wouldnt because apple's iphone are made in china although designed in california
Leol Mondhol noo lol its austrian its assembled in india . these Bikes are designed by ktm austria
Griffin Muffin you know why right? It's cheaper to pay an Indian engineer than an Austrian engineer that's why they do that. My VW is the same way, made in Germany, assembled in Mexico because they can pay Mexicans minimum wage to assemble the car rather than paying thier own workers 5x+ that amount, same with india.
Only the small capacity ktms such as the Duke 390 , 200 and may be 125 are manufactured in India
My sdr 3.0 lost the brake during folds because the six asses abs working bad. I've never been so afraid to ride a motorcycle. I hope the dealer will fix the problem. I have already made 2 turns in the other lane. It's crazy
As a conclusion which one is best: ABS or cornering ABS??
ABS is nice technology.... but I noticed that while performing for ABS and cornering ABS the biker leans back to straight while breaking .... but not did it for no ABS breaking demonstration.... cheating? did any one noticed this?
It's very simple: ABS is to prevent a locking tyre. If you lean and break so hard/ fast that thy tyre locks up, you fall.
Braking with C-ABS is like normal braking which always leads to the bike going straight and upright unless you force it to corner under braking
Well front brake is possible abs or no abs on a dry tarmac like in this vid. Problem is even with the wet surface you are done even with abs if engaged to hard at cornering. Trail braking is almost always done with rear brake. And this video of tight turn with front brake is nonsense.
This video was literally created with the sole intent of selling ABS. Obviously they're going to make ABS into the hero of their skit.
All this technology fails on gravel and cement spread roads esp in Indian roads. All of these technologies shown are only effective if the tyres grip on the road properly, the abs and mcs is contingent on tyre grip hence ineffective on tyre skidding.
I suppose if you switch it to rain mode, then it's also very effective on surfaces you mentioned
vinay savla ..exactly right ..
vinay savla U seem to be a knowledge one. What's ur field?
MotoK tips Learn to ride on bad roads LoL!. But ur right.
vinay savla Well, it's better than nothing right?
useful for all the riders which dont know how to corner, get scared and brake while cornering.. technology should not replace skills if you ride à bike you have to know how to brake by yourself
i totally agree with ABS on road!
if abs is not safe for riding, than why the fuck they still seliing non abs on market
Cheaper and lighter bike without it, and a lot of stupid people who macho talk about only needing skill, and worrying about the ABS system failing. In my country ABS isn't mandatory, but if the bike has an ABS option, they're not allowed to sell the non-ABS version, so most new bikes have ABS. You also don't want ABS on enduro/cross, and at least want to be able to disable it on dualsports and adventure bikes, because you want to be able to lock up brakes in the dirt.
aldiego adi in the EU ABS is now mandatory on all new bikes!
Because some idiots are bound to buy a motorcycle 500 dollars cheaper without ABS
If you're going to be a cheap ass you might as well buy used... (I did, with ABS).
At least for Harley many prefer non-ABS because their abs fail and unreliable.
The cornering is so fcking diff w/ abs and non abs..whats up dude....😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Can you still do stoppies on a abs bike?
EPIC! awesome video.....
meanwhile in 2030: i ride this 100% self driving bike, it is so much fun, i am so fast and skillfull on it.
years ago they used to say if you dont know how to drive practice...... there is a few million people driving with out abs or electronic and they still dive and brake in corners with out falling down .... abs its good .. dont take me wrong the problem is the drivers... inexperience drivers how drive superpower motorcycles with no freedom to test on the road so they can learn......... in European if you go 140 its ok in england America australia you are criminal and you may going to lose your licence 99% ... thats the real problem .... think about autobarn in Germany and then you may going to lern something!!!!! fake drivers !!!!!
nikkos zampelis 😂 have a ride in india ... you'll feel no less than in a rally championship .. its a nightmare and still few go 200
You can be as pro as you want but believe me, you simply DON'T brake hard when it's wet and you're on a turn. It's easier (but still not easy) to brake on straight roads but the ABS will always stop your vehicle faster. This can make a big difference, for example stopping just in time instead of smashing into the car in front of you.
if you go 140 in a 120 its -4 points and a 250+ euro ticket
Lukas Van Leeuwen lol es sind 20 Euro mehr nicht
Compromising Human Skills Making More Dependent On Technology.Earlier I Used to Remind All The Way I Go after Using G-Maps Cant Go Any Where Without It.
Test was right one aspect: Left corner are risky because room for error is narrow. With GPS is possible to warn driver and even slow down of speed for safety by automatically.
I drive in winter in north and not want any help system. They couraged take more risks.
I`m master of braking and never lose control.
Who else thinks this ads is BS??
Abs is good but it doesn't mean without abs is no good.
It's like saying get a car with automatic transmission because it's less work and manual transmission are dangerous to drive.
Horrible analogy but ok