How To Use IRLP

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  • Опубліковано 25 лис 2012
  • This short video describes how to use IRLP or "Internet Radio Linking Project" to connect to other IRLP repeaters Worldwide. Any radio that has a DTMF feature can use IRLP. In this video we connect to IRLP node 6789.
    According to the IRLP website it is recommended to say cq (just not cq cq cq like on hf) to attempt a contact over irlp rather than just saying "listening" or "monitoring" Also helps to state your location.
    Gentleman whom operates the IRLP node we connect to:
    • VK3RCM (operated by VK...
    My Antenna made by KB9VBR:
    jpole-antenna.com
    KB9VBR UA-cam:
    • KB9VBR J-Pole Antenna ...
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  • @dave8644
    @dave8644 3 місяці тому +3

    you are the only UA-cam channel, that offered this amount of information to viewers.🎊

    • @synonyx
      @synonyx  3 місяці тому

      I try to be as unbiased and honest as possible.

  • @brianshanahan3878
    @brianshanahan3878 4 роки тому +2

    I just got my license about a year ago and always wondered what IRLP was. Thanks for this helpful video.

  • @darrenhoey4667
    @darrenhoey4667 9 років тому +8

    Good video. I was wondering how irlp worked and you explained and demonstrated perfect and clear . Thanks

  • @jeep13ca
    @jeep13ca 4 роки тому +2

    Awesome video. Wish more straightforward videos like this existed for people getting into this.

  • @walkingmanvideo9455
    @walkingmanvideo9455 4 роки тому

    Insane how it all works. I just passed my Standard exam yesterday. I am now waiting for my license to arrive before I can begin to enjoy amateur radio. Thanks for this video, you answered all my queries on this area of ham radio.

  • @Phazon8058MS
    @Phazon8058MS 9 років тому

    Thanks for the demo! Today I managed to hook up my local node to the 9300 reflector for a 2M IRLP net.

  • @CliveSmith
    @CliveSmith 7 років тому +10

    Just getting back into amateur radio after 20+years absence. This video is an excellent tutorial on IRLP. Well done, and thanks! 73's G4VCP

    • @Sugarsail1
      @Sugarsail1 3 роки тому +1

      Me too, all this new fangled repeater linking stuff and digital radio is making me feel really old.

    • @englishandproud100
      @englishandproud100 3 роки тому

      @@Sugarsail1 you're not on your own! I'm wondering how to use this new fangled stuff too!

  • @MrVWQ
    @MrVWQ 9 років тому +1

    two people couldnt figure it out and disliked your video. Thanks for sharing.

  • @Aerospaceman
    @Aerospaceman 4 роки тому

    Excellent video on IRLP, I just had my first contact on echo link this morning via android. Your video clearly explained the IRLP process and etiquette. Thank You. 73.

  • @MrLneil
    @MrLneil 9 років тому +1

    Thanks. Just got back active after many years silent. I have really been missing all the great technology. Sure have a lot to learn. WB3KEF now relocated in Colordo.

  • @davidsanders2870
    @davidsanders2870 10 років тому

    Thanks for this IRLP demo. I've been wondering how it worked.

  • @MikeWood
    @MikeWood 7 років тому

    Was looking for a simple how to video on IRLP activation and your video came up first. Nice straight forward demo. 73, VE3MXU.

  • @jimthannum7151
    @jimthannum7151 9 років тому

    That was a great short video, concise and great demonstration of how to handle an IRLP call. This was shorter and better than most of the printed matter on IRLP. 73, KK4CSX

  • @gmctech
    @gmctech 6 років тому

    Great simple explanation... I'm not a ham but I love wireless comms and was wondering about irlp's.... now I'm down with its basics... :) again, thanks a bunch!

  • @bak2bassix
    @bak2bassix Рік тому

    Thanks for doing this. I’ve been Foundation licensed for a couple of months and not yet been brave enough to give it a try. Will do now though! Thanks again

  • @kk6ptx-932
    @kk6ptx-932 9 років тому

    Thank you for this tutorial. Extremely helpful.

  • @2000dcampos
    @2000dcampos 10 років тому

    Great video. Helped out a lot for my first IRLP contact today.

  • @jonswift1745
    @jonswift1745 11 років тому

    I know this video is almost a year old, but thanks for posting it. It's very helpful.

    • @jane5886
      @jane5886 3 місяці тому

      Here 10 years later :)

  • @garyscholze1
    @garyscholze1 10 років тому

    Thank you.. I only used irlp once and forgot how.
    Thanks again,
    Gary
    Kb3poq

  • @1billiedale
    @1billiedale 5 років тому

    Excellent explanation. Thanks for presenting it. Subscribed.

  • @davidallred6904
    @davidallred6904 7 років тому

    Brand new to HAM, Still waiting to get my call sign, actually. Thanks for the informative video. I've got 3 repeaters in my area that I can easily hit my with HT. Hopefully when I get my ticket I can use some IRLP nodes to make some contacts around the world. 73!.

  • @wa9neu
    @wa9neu 9 років тому

    thanks for this good video. I just upgraded to Extra class last month. I still enjoy vhf repeaters and I like walking. So I look forward to finding a repeater with echolink connection and talk away while walking or bicycling. Wa9neu in Cave in rock,Illinois

  • @rudypitte5032
    @rudypitte5032 8 років тому

    Simple and to the point. Nice vid. Tnx.

  • @ChuckRowe
    @ChuckRowe 8 років тому +1

    That's a great video. Thank you!

  • @donrice8176
    @donrice8176 8 років тому

    great to the point tutorial. Thanks so much!

  • @michaeldunn9018
    @michaeldunn9018 4 роки тому

    Thanks for the great and informative video!

  • @adrenalinowner7992
    @adrenalinowner7992 Рік тому

    Very good video, I’m still learning about Ham Operations, non licensed person here 73 🇨🇦 VE6HM is one of my home repeaters I listen to

  • @maxdaddy6434
    @maxdaddy6434 9 років тому

    Great vid for a newbie! Thank you!

  • @glennstevenson6242
    @glennstevenson6242 7 років тому

    Good stuff mate. Your video help me heaps to understand IRLP.
    Cheers from Glenn is VK.

  • @5150Jim
    @5150Jim 9 років тому

    TNX for the informative video. I looked you up on QRZ & I to have been to the W6RO station & have a QSL card from there, but as cool as operating from there.
    TNX again, Jim ka6aru

  • @zackcagley2192
    @zackcagley2192 10 років тому

    Excellent video!
    I'm traveling to Ohio for vacation and will be using IRLP to speak with a friend here in Prescott.
    Thanks! 73
    KF7RXT

  • @Michael-us3om
    @Michael-us3om 11 років тому

    New ham hear. Great FYI video. Thanks and 73.

  • @rjnmex
    @rjnmex 9 років тому

    Thank you! I'm new to IRLP and found your video very informative. N1CNY

  • @jackkelley890
    @jackkelley890 4 роки тому

    awesome video. This is exactly what I was needing. Keep sharing. 73s

  • @darrenhintze7646
    @darrenhintze7646 5 років тому

    Thank you very much! Awesome video!

  • @qingfengwang2404
    @qingfengwang2404 6 років тому

    Just want to say well done!

  • @mrsweetcracker
    @mrsweetcracker 11 років тому

    Thank for making this video!! I am a new Ham and I have been searching the internet on how to use the IRLP
    73
    Cody
    VA7ARF

  • @prephampaul
    @prephampaul Рік тому

    Well done! Added your link to our group HCOL page for a simple and complete guide to IRLP use!! 73

  • @tomsmall2479
    @tomsmall2479 5 років тому

    I was curious what IRLP represented in the Ham World - the presentation was very clear and detailed....73

  • @Hizan546
    @Hizan546 11 років тому +1

    Think of a node as a chat room sort of thing. Everyone connects to the same node to talk together - unless they're using RF to access the repeater, in which case they'd just use the repeater as normal.
    Connecting to a node allows you to speak and listen through another repeater by using a repeater which is local to you.

  • @JaimeRestrepo61
    @JaimeRestrepo61 8 років тому

    GREAT INFO!!

  • @HamRadioLiveShow
    @HamRadioLiveShow 3 роки тому +2

    Rory,
    I host a daily UA-cam podcast hoping to teach him radio to people. IRLP is a subject I would like to cover.
    I want to be sure it’s OK to use this video for my podcast from you. I think it is exceptionally well done. It’s nice to have someone do a video so precise that’s easy to follow along with.
    Thank you so much and all the very best to you and yours,
    Larry
    de K7HN

    • @synonyx
      @synonyx  3 роки тому

      Feel free to use it and share a link to it for credit, please.

    • @HamRadioLiveShow
      @HamRadioLiveShow 3 роки тому

      Absolutely. It will be on today’s show. I’ll have a link to your channel in the description.
      God bless you and great DX!
      Larry

  • @jessiestocks5144
    @jessiestocks5144 4 роки тому

    THANK YOU, iv been searching how to connect to echo link with a handheld but every one just videos them self talking or setting up their own node. thanks again.

  • @dave8644
    @dave8644 3 місяці тому

    thanks for the post📯

    • @synonyx
      @synonyx  3 місяці тому

      No problem!

  • @Quark.Lepton
    @Quark.Lepton 9 років тому

    Nice vid & very helpful & informative!
    Cheers & 73,
    de W6SJP

  • @synctothegid
    @synctothegid 10 років тому

    Thanks for putting this up. It really helped me to understand how to use IRLP. I really did not understand the methodology until watching this. Good job. 73 KD0YSC

  • @iamallears
    @iamallears 5 років тому

    Great video! Thank you for sharing! 73, NO4W

  • @synonyx
    @synonyx  11 років тому

    Yeah your node is one of the better ones with all the configured sound files! Maybe we can QSO on HF one day, 73' Craig!

  • @a-zmp
    @a-zmp 6 років тому

    Thanks. As a new ham this is the how to info that is hard to find.

  • @JimFariello
    @JimFariello 9 років тому

    Thanks, good video, N0USN.

  • @chrisr069
    @chrisr069 11 років тому +1

    Thanks for the video! QUESTION: Say you connect to the Victoria AUS node as you did 6789, would your CQ contact have to know the node number of YOUR local irlp repeater in order to transmit back to you?

  • @Camman010
    @Camman010 4 роки тому

    You can thank David VE7LTD for the IRLP. He invented it to contact with a friend in central BC Canada.

  • @GoGlennR
    @GoGlennR 10 років тому

    Thanks for the video clip. Helpful info.
    73's de DL8FG/Glenn

  • @synonyx
    @synonyx  11 років тому

    You must have took the test the same day I did. My buddy that took the test with me got KF7ZKG.

  • @ryantoomey611
    @ryantoomey611 3 роки тому

    The good old days before DMR talkgroups came along.

  • @petedamron
    @petedamron 7 років тому

    I have a question...
    I have a 250 watt cross. Band Repeater. Large coverage area.
    1. Can a Mobil radio access the irlp on the repeater access the internet gateway and go to another no repeater. Or are they only going to be allowed to connect and transmit on the irlp should we install one. I really don't understand the capabilities of an irlp is it going to be just radio two the irlp node and just transmitting on our repeater or can you give it a command two choose another note. Quite a large expense looking at the rack mount and the Linux system. Can you help explain this a little better I would appreciate it.
    N6ZLW
    Pete Damron

  • @rds801
    @rds801 9 років тому

    Thanks for this video. Is it a good idea to get permission before connecting to someones node? And can I connect to a reflector with my handheld the same as a node?

  • @Fraiyia
    @Fraiyia 5 років тому

    I was informed that in order to use the irlp it would need to be running alstar .I tried your instructions with by local repearter that indicates it has irlp and it doesn't work . I'm on Wb8grs . Any ideas ?

  • @purplemutantas
    @purplemutantas 11 років тому

    We just had an IRLP node installed here. On the node here 73 is used to disconnect from the node. I would imagine that 73 is standard. But I don't know for sure.

  • @rolfchristophersen2898
    @rolfchristophersen2898 10 років тому

    Hi, Nice job; I like the way you slowly demonstrated the actual process of IRLP using HAM radio two meters and the Internet linking. You'd be a good teacher! I'm just learning about IRLP. I do not have a key pad on my mic (MH-31). I was wondering if I could open PTT and the hold my telephone next to the speaker and key in the tones? Thanks from KD0EGD.

    • @kellingc
      @kellingc 9 років тому

      Radio Shack used to sell a DTMF pad that would just generate the tones. That wa back in the time of remote access to your answering machine, and not all phones may have been push button. However, it is easy enough to make. Each row and each column has a specific tone. When a digit is pressed, the junction of the row and column creates 2 ones. The decoder picks up the tones and determines where in the matrix the button press occurred. Building a unit might work better than trying to coordinate pressing the PTT button and then pressing the buttons on your phone, though in theory it would work.

  • @fdiaz05
    @fdiaz05 10 років тому

    I loved the vid but one thing I'm missing. What station were you connected to prior to jumping onto IRLP? was it a local repeater that was known to be IRLP enabled?

  • @barryeaton8063
    @barryeaton8063 8 років тому

    what type of band is on ur radio are fire company still uses 33 mhz out of maryland lol im getting in to ham radio my self just wanted to know what kenwood that is in what bands modes

  • @synonyx
    @synonyx  11 років тому

    Yes, but some repeater owners change the code. This is done in cases where the owner restricts access to their repeater.

  • @2wrdr
    @2wrdr 3 роки тому

    Hopefully getting my 1st license next Saturday. Does this format this exist? Also so you don't need an HT with any digital format to access just use of DTMF? That was really cool btw! I ordered Yaesu FT-65R but is seems they are backordered everywhere and still waiting. Because of this I ordered a Radioddity GD-77 off Amazon so at least I have something to start using soon. I hope to get my General license after I get my feet wet with Tech.

  • @Chaplain1083
    @Chaplain1083 10 років тому +1

    you don`t need CQ, just call out your call sign and say (if you want) listening or monitoring. You can also say your location.

  • @kattgreenbackupaccount1342
    @kattgreenbackupaccount1342 8 років тому

    NICE VIDEO
    W5DZG

  • @ScottAReid
    @ScottAReid 9 років тому

    informative video brother. 73 de N5XTC

  • @nathanbieber2840
    @nathanbieber2840 3 роки тому

    do you have to use a certain radio like a kenwood to use IRLP? I have anyton, ft-3dr, and a wouxun 9d and a couple of boafengs

    • @synonyx
      @synonyx  3 роки тому

      The Kenwood TH-D72 works well but I've also done it with a Yaesu. As long as the radio supports DTMF it should work.

  • @giga898
    @giga898 9 років тому +1

    Nice video, really helped a lot
    -KF7RAO

  • @VileStorms
    @VileStorms 4 роки тому

    my local node just responds with two hundred one, or two hundred two when I punch in the Win system reflector node 9100

  • @thomasrogen3739
    @thomasrogen3739 2 роки тому

    Question can you use IRLP on a Baofeng radio?

  • @outlaw6595
    @outlaw6595 8 років тому

    Does your instructions work for Yeasu as well?

  • @ebazz1
    @ebazz1 2 роки тому

    Great video, sir. Is IRLP person to person or can anybody on your end or the other end get in on the conversation? Thank you. Ernest Bazzinotti KC1LKB

  • @USAFJUNKIE
    @USAFJUNKIE 5 років тому

    So...once you connect, if anyone in your area tunes into that repeater, they'll be connected to the repeater you dialed up via IRLP? Or is it just going to give them local FM traffic while you're talking over the internet? (Hopefully my question makes sense.)

    • @synonyx
      @synonyx  5 років тому

      Once a repeater is connected to another repeater via IRLP, it is fully connected to the other repeater so anyone who keys the mic will transmit locally and through the IRLP link. This is a big reason why you are asked to disconnect the link when done.

  • @grandmistresserin226
    @grandmistresserin226 10 років тому

    I can't Get mine To work, Got a yaesu 2500m and a radio shack htx-404 using a Tram dual band mobile antenna, I am transmitting To a repeater In Colorado not 2 far from me, I have dialed 73 and waited, No return audio, Then dialed 7673 Kingston node, Still no return audio

  • @profgyland2
    @profgyland2 7 років тому +1

    Some Radio Clubs in Australia running the repeaters are very unfriendly and do not want to be involved in conversations with people they do not know. Some of the radio clubs are also very cliquey and if you are not a member they do not want to know you. This is typical for some clubs. Mind you the ARNSW the Amateur Radio New South Wales is the oldest and longest existing radio club in the World. They always welcome new connections and are friendly with overseas callers. Forget the small towns such as the country towns like Canberra. They are known to be rather let us say isolated and only speak to themselves and if you call CQ they would not bother to answer. This is my personal and some other radio amateur's experiences as well. WK1FGYL.

    • @gortnewton4765
      @gortnewton4765 6 років тому

      When did Australia's capital city, Canberra become a small country town? Pop. 400,000 and what unfriendliness? I've been here for a long time now and haven't spotted it, not anywhere in Australia... "very unfriendly"... that's not right. Give it another try (keep in mind that some people here are NOT friendly but are NOT from here).

    • @WadeAbout
      @WadeAbout 6 років тому

      As a net controller here in Canberra I couldn’t think of anything further from the truth. Call in any time. If the repeater is monitored (IRLP and echolink are not on the primary repeater) you will get an answer. We have recently had a great group qso with some Indian callers. Was a great day. Hope to make a contact soon cheers. VK1MIC

  • @Munky332
    @Munky332 7 років тому +1

    so here's a question, when using IRLP, can the connection be terminated from either side? ie say you connected your node to the 6789 node, could someone in Australia disconnect you by transmitting DTMF 73?
    other than you obviously calling CQ, if someone were monitoring the IRLP node in Australia, would they get notification that the node has been connected? can multiple nodes be connected?

    • @SDSpike
      @SDSpike 7 років тому

      Yes they could disconnect the link by hitting 73. They would get a similar announcement that the the link has been brought up through the node you are using. Multiple node can be connected to each other through what is called a 'reflector' Think of direct node to node as simplex and many nodes to a reflector as the repeater of the IRLP system. Your node is not announced to all other nodes when you connect to a reflector.

    • @Munky332
      @Munky332 7 років тому

      Thanks, after getting my HAM tech license shortly after making that comment, i experimented with a buddy. reflectors are cool, but most of the ones i've run into have all been fairly quiet. the 9100 reflector seems like the coolest as it generally seems to be the most populated. I've played around with echolink too. the biggest problem I have is nearest echolink and IRLP nodes to me are right at about 35-45 miles from me, and my little baofeng with nagoya can't hit them. that's kind of the thing I like about the Echolink system is that I can use my internet connection and use my desktop to listen in/transmit around the world without having a direct radio node. might install a J-pole to see if I can get out a bit farther, but also looking into HF once I upgrade to general. almost bought a Yaesu FT-450D, but some other stuff came up, and my other hobbies got in the way. digital modes (rtty,psk31, etc) interest me most I think. 2m/70cm was popular for a bit here, about a month before i got my ticket, then it dropped off.

  • @RookieLock
    @RookieLock 3 роки тому

    Total newb to ham.. Just getting started.. How is IRLP different than echo link.. Sorry for the dummy question..

  • @englishandproud100
    @englishandproud100 3 роки тому

    Is there anywhere where you can find all the access codes for worldwide nodes? or am I missing the point? I'm hoping there's a database somewhere that you can connect to (In a particular part of the planet that interests you? Treat me as a buffoon with your replies) 73 and tnx in anticipation

    • @synonyx
      @synonyx  3 роки тому

      Access codes are dependent on the owner and can change. Your best IRLP resource is this page here - status.irlp.net/index.php?PSTART=3

  • @TwitchRadio
    @TwitchRadio 9 років тому

    now if i can just get this to work on me baofueng gt-3 mark II

  • @usernamemykel
    @usernamemykel 8 років тому

    IPhone app "Winsytem Info"
    Or just type in the iPhone apps search field "IRLP"

  • @synonyx
    @synonyx  11 років тому

    IRLP will be your gateway around the world for now until you get some HF gear.... 6M will be active pretty soon so an HF radio would not be a bad next investment for you.

  • @awrwayne
    @awrwayne 11 років тому

    Most IRLP nodes are on 2 meters or 70 cm FM repeaters. Calling CQ on 2 meters/70cm is normally viewed by other hams as poor practice.

  • @africantwin173
    @africantwin173 5 років тому

    In Europe i only see AllStar and svxlink. Both have echolink. Never seen irlp overhere... Edit:. Damn those irlp boards are 100 bucks . Now i see why there are no irlp stations here.

  • @Cheeseoverdose
    @Cheeseoverdose 8 років тому

    Does anyone have documentation saying you shouldn't call CQ over IRLP or is this just an unwritten rule?

    • @jleiben72
      @jleiben72 8 років тому +1

      according to the irlp website it is recommended to say cq (just not cq cq cq like on hf) to attempt a contact over irlp rather than just saying "listening" or "monitoring"

  • @wardhavens007
    @wardhavens007 6 років тому

    Thanks for the help great video! 73 VK2FWLH

  • @Kzummo
    @Kzummo 9 років тому

    Video starts at 1:54

  • @RadioGuy-wt1vr
    @RadioGuy-wt1vr 8 років тому

    Really frustrating that these Apps no longer available on IOS.

    • @Munky332
      @Munky332 7 років тому +1

      time to upgrade to a proper OS. Apple died before Steve Jobs could.

  • @verishare
    @verishare 10 років тому

    00 Will tell you the status before 73

  • @tahoma6889
    @tahoma6889 3 роки тому

    Saying CQ? On duplex/repeaters? I think not. Just say "Anyone here? This is ... ... ... ".

  • @JMaassK7JKZ
    @JMaassK7JKZ 10 років тому

    Helpful. Thanks and 73 DE K7JKZ

    • @JMaassK7JKZ
      @JMaassK7JKZ 10 років тому

      ***** Paul OM, are you referring to your 146.700 machine?

    • @JMaassK7JKZ
      @JMaassK7JKZ 10 років тому

      ***** OM, appreciate the info. I am using a handheld with no outdoor antenna. Drawing plans for an iron pipe home brew mast for a J-Pole. I can only key up 146.7; audio after that doesn't survive. Location is two blocks NW of the VA medical center. I hear the activity on 146.7 and would like to partake if the antenna height helps. The VA medical center and Oklahoma Medical Research Foundation buildings could block me.

    • @JMaassK7JKZ
      @JMaassK7JKZ 10 років тому

      Between this video, the IRLP website, email from yourself and Paul Sr., the W5DEL website, and other sources, I believe I can qualify as "IRLP Novice; No Hazard."

    • @JMaassK7JKZ
      @JMaassK7JKZ 10 років тому

      I've noticed that 146.700 is now often WINS. Is that replacing 443.300 as dedicated WINS?

    • @jazz4asahel
      @jazz4asahel 10 років тому

      Sometimes when WINS becomes slow I've thought of keying it to something like England, Australia, or Japan. But mostly I have left it on WINS.

  • @texasprepper869
    @texasprepper869 8 років тому +4

    we dont use cq on repeaters

    • @beaver6969lv
      @beaver6969lv 8 років тому

      Generally you don't, you monitor. You do CQ using IRLP trying QSO someone using a repeater.

    • @beaver6969lv
      @beaver6969lv 8 років тому +2

      George Ace crazy how much ham radio has come. You never know who is listening when you're on air, especially IRLP. 73

    • @Cheeseoverdose
      @Cheeseoverdose 8 років тому +1

      +George Ace study up for your license. It's not hard. Go for ir

    • @rohnkd4hct260
      @rohnkd4hct260 8 років тому +1

      yes , you do in some places.

    • @seriouspipes
      @seriouspipes 6 років тому

      Nice expo. Have you ever heard anyone on 6789? Connected dozens of times and never heard a soul.

  • @dannelson8556
    @dannelson8556 8 років тому

    CQ CQ CQ on a 2 meter repeater using skype/IRLP ??
    You can always tell a newbie who hasn't bothered to learn proper amature radio protocal. For future reference You never EVER call CQ on 2/440 FM especially through a repeater. It's generally considered extremely poor operating practice to call CQ through a repeater. Doing so lets everyone know that you're a repeater jockey who hasn't bothered to educate themselves on proper amature radio protocol, AKA a LID.
    The proper repeater protocol is " this is KF7ZKF (state your location) looking for a signal report via IRLP.
    Or simply "KF7ZKF (state your location) monitoring "
    Save the CQ for real radio, You know CW/SSB on HF. As the old saying goes, Real radio bounces off the sky, everything else is just glorified CB.

    • @dicebagdaryl
      @dicebagdaryl 8 років тому +3

      +Dan Nelson Hate to say it, buddy, but it's people like you that intimidate others to NOT get into Amateur Radio. Generals and Extras that won't stop looking down their noses at new Technicians, which is slowly killing the hobby. Just because this kid didn't need to learn Morse code or build his first radio doesn't mean that he deserves your condescending vitriol or animosity.
      "Real radio bounces off the sky," huh? Really? So VHF and UHF doesn't use radio waves? It uses, what, bullshit waves? Get the fuck out of here, you cunt.

    • @dannelson8556
      @dannelson8556 8 років тому

      +Brent Hewitson "Generals and Extras that won't stop looking down their noses at new Technicians, which is slowing killing the hobby"
      Quite the contrary what's killing the ham radio service is the dumbing down of the licensing exams and the massive influx of slackers and appliance operators who are only interested in ratchet jawing on the radio and are too lazy to pick up a book and educate themselves.
      First let's set the record straight. Ham radio is not a hobby ! It's called the amateur radio service for a reason. Ham radio is an FCC licensed radio service. The FCC doesn't consider the holder of an amateur radio station license a hobbyist.
      As far as the FCC is concerned the holder of amateur radio station license is the chief engineer of a radio station, As such the licensee is responsible for insuring that their radio station complies with all technical and safety guidelines and regulations. Why do you think the test has all those questions regarding ohm's law, resonance reactance...........
      What's killing the amateur radio service is not people like me who advocate maintaining a high standard of technical competence within amateur radio service but rather the influx of whackers and doomsday preppers who couldn't build a simple dipole without an instructable
      What's killing the ham radio service is the influx of paper extras who couldn't define resonance without watching a you tube video let alone repair a radio or design a low pass filter...
      Keep in mind ham radio is a radio service founded entirely on promoting and expanding the radio art through science, engineering and continuing education.
      "intimidate others to NOT get into Amateur Radio"
      Good if you're so thin skinned that a little verbal spanking regarding inappropriate protocol offends you then don't let the door hit you in the back on the way out . What ham radio needs is quality not quantity, the last thing ham radio needs is a bunch of illiterate twits and slackers who refuse to educate themselves in order to maintain the high standards set forth by previous generations of hams. It was this high standard and pursuit of education and skill that set ham radio apart from the free banders polluting the radio waves of 11 meters..
      "So simplex doesn't use radio waves" Simplex Really !! This is a perfect example of the lack of education I'm talking about. If you bothered to pick up and study a book regarding RF and propagation then you wouldn't asked such a stupid question, Like I said you can always tell the newbie who's never bothered to read a book.
      The bottom line is, What's killing the armature radio service is the fact that today a ham radio license is no longer worth the paper it's printed on, Oh wait they no longer actually print them , Ever wonder why ?

    • @dicebagdaryl
      @dicebagdaryl 8 років тому +1

      Dan Nelson I don't know if you've pulled your head out of the sand and looked around lately, but "traditional" radio is practically on its way out the door anyway. We live in an age of computers and the internet. While I don't necessarily disagree with you that they're dumbing the tests down, I do [mostly] disagree in regards to "what we need is quality, not quantity."
      Do you HONESTLY think Millennials would get into amateur radio if they also had to learn Morse code, how to hand-build a radio, etc.? They would rather just spend that time learning to code C++, Ruby, Python, Java, or any of the other coding languages.
      If there's not enough "quantity" of hams out there, then there won't be anyone else to work with! While, yes, dumbing down the licensing tests is frustrating, the next generation of hams wouldn't even try in this day and age if it was as difficult as it used to be. If the radio landscape doesn't adapt, it WILL die. The only ones who would operate are people whos employers require them to be licensed. That's it.

    • @dannelson8556
      @dannelson8556 8 років тому

      +Brent Hewitson
      The bottom line is the Amateur radio service occupies some very valuable radio spectrum. In the past this was justified because the amateur radio service provided an invaluable service during times of emergency.
      Unfortunately It's quickly becoming apparent that the same can no longer be said of the ham radio service today. Exactly how much value does the amateur radio service provide to society when the vast majority of paper extras who should be able to troubleshoot and repair just about any piece of radio gear can't even build a simple dipole without watching a UA-cam video.
      As such I disagree that advocating maintaining a high technical standard of competence is destroying the amateur radio service by driving prospective hams away.
      Quite contrary it hasn't had that effect anywhere else in the world. The fact is lowering the standard has actually driven out a large number of very valuable competent hams who have left because they feel the service has been reduced to nothing more than appliance operator's, anti government nut jobs and freebanders who offer nothing of value to society or the amateur radio service. It's obvious that here in the US the ham radio service is slowly being reduced to nothing more than glorified CB.
      On the other hand amateur radio is flourishing elsewhere in the world where they still require members of the amateur radio service to demonstrate and maintain technical competence . Why do you think the vast vast majority of technical innovations in ham radio are coming from other countries rather than the United States.
      You might not realize this but the sad fact is US hams are considered a world wide laughing stock. As a result this is the first time in the history of amateur radio where I have actually heard Dxpeditions as well as DX stations actively refuse to work American hams. Now exactly how can losing the respect of our peers from around the globe be good for the American amateur radio service.
      I'll use the J-pole as a perfect example of the dumbing down of the amateur radio service. Only in America do you see this J-pole fetish, I cringe every time I see an American ham post a video enthusiastically promoting the magical performance of the J-Pole.
      Why ? because if these hams had actually bothered to educate themselves they wouldn't be susceptible to unethical snake oil salesmen and their claims of magical antennas that defy the laws of physics.
      If these hams bothered to learn some simple math and pick up an authoritative antenna book rather than acquire their education by watching BS UA-cam video most of which are loaded with subjective personal opinion masqueraded as fact they might have actually learned that the J-pole is a crappy over hyped antenna with negative gain when compared to even a simple 1/4 wave ground plane. They might have also learned that the J-pole suffers from serious feed line radiation issues as well as common mode problems. Yet that doesn't stop them from claiming that the J-pole is the next best thing since sliced bread and yet they cant figure out why American hams are no longer respected and have become a world wide laughing stock. I won't even go int the embarrassment of hearing newly minted paper extras on air asking for help building dipoles.

    • @dicebagdaryl
      @dicebagdaryl 8 років тому

      Dan Nelson Well, that certainly is a shame that foreign hams are doing that, but those are the exact types of people that I was originally talking about. They're taking their own frustrations - while justified - and letting that undermine the whole purpose of amateur radio. As you stated, "...the Amateur radio service occupies some very valuable radio spectrum. In the past this was justified because the amateur radio service provided an invaluable service during times of emergency. "
      "Why do you think the vast vast majority of technical innovations in ham radio are coming from other countries rather than the United States?" I'll say it again: BECAUSE THERE ARE OTHER TYPES OF TECHNOLOGY THAT PEOPLE ARE FOCUSING ON IN THE UNITED STATES THESE DAYS. Did it stick that time, Dan?
      Plus, don't you think that it's a bit of generalization to say that these "nutjobs" and freebanders have nothing to contribute to society, just because they're not as versed in amateur radio as they should be? Come on, what are we, in elementary school? Grow up, dude.

  • @Dave-zb9dq
    @Dave-zb9dq Рік тому

    Thanks for the post 📯 73 KN6WDB