Don't forget that he is not allowed Alonso by overtaking him at the first stint, he was slower so they lost amount of time. Alonso stopped first, he tried to overtake Ocon and Ricciardo overtook both of them. They again lost plenty of time with the hard tyres but Alonso managed to overtake Ocon out of Tv footage (team decision ?) and Alonso finished 15seconds in front of Ocon. I think that's why Alonso decided to go to Aston Martin, it was a big point for his decision.
Ocon only target is to beat Alonso in the championship, which is OK, and I think Alonso is going to "choose violence" next time Ocon tries the same. But I think Alonso decided to join Aston Martin because Ottmar just gave him one year contract, and probably tried to reduce his salary. Rossi and Ottmar have their own plan. Alonso was lucky to have a chance in AM, and go far away from these toxic guys.
Yeah, Ocon is 27 years old and it's supossed to be faster than a 41 years old guy. People sometimes forget that Alonso is one of the greatests of f1. Hope history make justice for Fernando.
Relations with alpine were already breaking down before this point, and I don't think ocon was gonna be siding with Alonso. Alonso since he left Renault for the first time seemed to bring his bad luck and overly passive aggressiveness everywhere with him, to McLaren both times, and to alpine now. Ocon has done nothing wrong, nor anything different to what Alonso was like with his teammates especially earlier in his career. I love Alonso, but people have to realise much of the bad luck he has had in his career has been brought on by him and his personality, and the same goes for the relation with his teammates
@@jamesbassil2088 I always felt the same as you mentioned her. Talent doesn’t work if you have a big Ego. Also imagine two big Ego’s of Lawrence and Alonso colliding next year. I just wish AM have a championship winning car soon. The drama that is going to unfold is going to be so much fun.
Yep. Funny, isn't it? When Ocon lost his seat back in 2018, everyone was extremely unhappy, especially when Stroll was his replacement. Now, he is about as popular and likelable as Sir Lancelot. Frankly, I would fire him if I was the Alpine boss.
I’ve always been critical of ocon. The past two seasons he has proved he is the worst person to have as a teammate. There is always one driver on the grid no one wants as a teammate and ocon is definitely that guy.
No, He’s not the most aggressive driver on the grid, hes an ego driver, he thinks he is faster than he is so can’t accept that he really isn’t very fast
@Dacia Sandero guys the problem is the mentality and backing behind Alpine is so weak that if they become a backmarker Renault might just give up and pull out entirely.
This is not new. Just look at Ocon in force india against Perez. He always defends and battles his teammates too hard. It even cost him his seat in 2019 because no one wanted him in his team because he is trouble, only time this didn't happen so much was with Ricciardo because he got completely destroyed that year.
That's straight up false. Ocon didn't get a seat caus all the other seats were taken and he didn't bring much sponsor money , not caus if the way he raced Perez . Only one of 6 incidents between Ocon and Perez were Ocon's fault
@@timmynicolas8729 exactly, in 2019 he was kicked out his seat by stroll, with him being told he would be replaced most likely sometime in November, when virtually every seat, if not every seat (I can't remember off the top of my head) was already full, this left him having to settle for a reserve for 1 year, but in his 2.5 years back, he has shown to be a solid midfield driver, and I think most of this stuff between him and Alonso on track is due to Alonso breaking down relations with alpine more than anything
Bro, sorry but i disagree with comment. Cause Perez definitely crashing into Ocon for 4-5 times I don’t know. Ocon’s doing mistakes to Alonso this year but don’t forget Qatar defence to Perez. If we come to 2019 seat Ocon kicked because they think like you. I am an Ocon fan. If I tell wrong let me know that.
What a disgrace, Esteban really has a problem. He is ahead of Alo in the standings because of luck and Alonso's reliability issues and bad strategies by Alpine. Alonso has been beating him in terms of pure pace all this first half of the season. I'm sure in the second part Fernando is going to destroy him even more and get the points he deserves
Due to Alonso being so unlucky this first part of the season Ocon now really wants to take advantage of that and try to finish ahead of him this season
I used to be such a big Ocon fan. His story of becoming an F1 Driver and not being from wealth or having a very early sponsor like others is really inspiring. But man as he showed time and time again lately how he can be such a prick. This race at Hungary really made that super, crystal clear
Ocon clearly has a problem with feeling like second best. He's been paired with a lot of teammates that can outdrive him and instead of trying to learn and improve he plays dirty. There's a reason Alonso could hold of Hamilton for 10 laps.
UA-cam algorithm taking me here after first race of 2023 is glorious. Alonso in Aston Martin being driver of the day, showing everybody that he is still the boss, and Ocon being a clown getting penalties like an amateur. Like Alonso would say: Karma!
So we gonna pretend like Perez didnt cause most of those accidents because he was being an asshole? And he knew he could get away with it because Force India was dependent on the sponsorship money he brought
@@speedyplayz23 like Baku, when Ocon pushed Perez into the wall, and robbed the team of a potential 1-2? Perez was only at fault for Spa, it was a payback for Ocon's antics.
Ocon is just an average driver, that is why he focuses his frustration on a two-time world champion with 41 years old who makes him look like an amateur every single race for 2 years in a row
@@j.s3300 i mean if your boss and management screwed you over multiple times like that and you were given the same job with better pay and a longer contract, wouldn't you 'run away'?
I for one, is actually not against teammates racing each other as long as it is done fair and square. I'm from an era when having that is expected and part of the excitement. But to do it poorly at the cost of letting someone else from another team pass, like Ocon does regularly, is a whole different story.
If they’re both fighting for a title then fair enough, but they’re a midfield team trying to secure as many points as possible. This was just Ocon being a bitter teammate and sore loser.
Your speaking FACTS man if your not liked by by a lot of f1 fans then you get a lot more shit than you wound if the media and fans liked unless you from France
@@debaitf1686 the issue is Ocon is costing the team while doing it. I’d have nothing against the block in lap 1. Except he left the outside side open and let a car steam down the outside. Then his stupid games cost them a spot to Daniel Play stupid games when your alone not when you have a rival sniffing your tail pipe.
@@DevinEMILE why point is that Ocon gets a lot more shit than let say like Russel if they both did the same thing and yeah Russel would get shit but in a weeks time not people wound talk about it but whenever it’s Ocon you go on and on and on and on and on
@@debaitf1686 Probably because Russell doesn't have a history of wrecking his teammates. The Goat never was really was fast enough to be in that spot. While Ocon while with Force India/Racing point made it a common sight to see the two of them tangling. Thats not to say they were all his fault. But its still a history of doing it.
Esteban is literally L human being. I remembered the days when he and Gasly were like childhood bestfriend, and their relationship wrecked just because Esteban’s jealousy of Gasly’s earlier career success in F1. This guy simply has a bad attitude and heart towards all of his teammates. if he continues to be like that so, i just hope that no teams would like to take him as a driver man. L
You know them ? If yes can you get me in relation with them I would love to take a picture with Gasly. Seriously, you are talking bs they were friend in the past, Ocon's father was the mechanical of Gasly in his karting days. The friendship stopped after a race in Karting when one did a dirty overtake (I didn't remember who). It have nothing to do with Gasly early's success in F1
Jeddah is another example, where the team might have benefited had the team inserted themselves at some point. It was neat to watch but couldn’t help but think the in race resources could’ve been used against opponents instead.
@@terminayt6457 thats why you or ppl with same thinking cant be a team principal.. if you are not winning driver championship your only goal is constructor championship and there you need to maximize points and team orders are necessary to do it.. it is bussiness not fun for them .. shut up already about let them race ..
Since his clash with Verstappen in 2018 or something, I knew there's a problem with this guy. He had issues with Checo in Force India/RP, and again here with Alonso. He's good, but not good enough. He doesn't know how to pick his own fight. Always racing with the wrong people on track, only god knows what he wants to prove.
As a French, and since he's French, I assume he wants to protect his French pride. Which makes no senses. He could've learn from Alonso being the best teamplayer in 2021 but he decided to be the average online arcade racing game driver who thinks he's good.
Checo actually had a problem with ocon. He was the one that didn’t move over in Canada 2017 which cost ocon the chance of a podium and left them vulnerable to Vettel catching and passing them both. Also checo is the one that defended aggressively and took both cars out in spa and the incident in Singapore
@@danieljung5036 actually ocon was passed because he had pitted. Ocon had every right to unlap himself. As Hamilton said, Verstappen was the one that had everything to lose and didn't need to take a risk closing the door on a lapped car that he wasn't racing. He was well clear of Hamilton behind so he wouldn't have lost much time had he let ocon pass
Never thought of Ocon’s sole victory as one he earned, rather one that was handed to him, Ocon had a history of being not only a bad teammate, but slower than whoever he’s paired with and getting into unnecessary collisions, this was really apparent when he was paired with Sergio Perez back in the Force India days
He was faster than Perez in 2018 tho anyone who watched that season can agree . + Only baku is his fault , what about Canada ,spa (twice) , Singapore or hungary ?
Playing devils advocate, he won against Vettel because of chaos + help from his teammate + Vettel's slow pit stop and Vettel was faster still (had like 2 or 3 chances) but he couldn't get past because it's hungary
Good point. I was really shocked how ruthless Ocon was to his teammate. Only HAM-ROS days comes to mind. My guess is that he was genuinely shocked by Alonso form. In his 41 he gives Ocon (who is in his best shape) crazy challenge. In spite of a valuable skull, Ocon got well aging legend who outshined him. Even his highest achievement - P1 in Hungary is shadowed by incredible ALO performance.
@@mohammeded-dahbi7603 how does he wipe the floor with him? Even if you equalize both of their issues they are pretty close to each other. I’d agree it to be an insult if you compared each other’s prime, but literally anyone who isn’t some biased Alonso stan can see they are evenly matched right now
@@agent6599 No they're not? Alonso has had superior race pace throughout the vast majority of the season. Last year they were much closer to each other, but this year Alonso is significantly better. The thing is, Alpine for some reason decide not to use team orders. In Canada he was literally faster with an issue in ERS deployment. And he had much more bad luck throughout the season.
He wouldn't have had that P1 in Hungary had it not been for Alonso. Ocon's only win in F1 and it was a gift from his teammate. I don't see Ocon ever standing on another F1 podium.
Alonso stays clear because these kids are always ready to destroy thousands in parts and potential sponsorships Perfect example of how a guy worth gold always ends up at the wrong team at the wrong time.
Alonso is about 150 pounds, and that weight in gold is about $4 million. He is literally worth more than his weight in gold to a Formula 1 team i.e. the difference having him will make in WCC standings alone will be worth more than that
Alonso is himself a cancer and fully the reason why he isn't in a better car or team. He was too scared to fight Hamilton on equal terms in an equal car so he tucked his tail and ran back to flabbio to fix races. Alonso has gotten far more than he has deserved out of F1.
He’s been awesome since last season… One bad race and he’s a bad driver? He hadn’t had and incident with a teammate since 2018 (Singapore), and it was completely checos fault
@@Dolek135 go on, tell me which incidents he’s had? Fucking plastic fans please leave the sport, ur just freaking toxic for no reason. Ocon has been awesome all season. I swear he could save someone’s life and ud still say that he’s a shitty human being…
This is a disgrace. Ocon only focusing to win agaisnt Alonso, and letting all oponents overtaking. This is not teamwork. He cant accept that Alonso is better than him with 41 years. Immature mentality.
He should be replaced Idk y alpine is keeping him Only got win one ocon (we all know how) Alpine 2022 cars have qualifying pace has more potential than getting p7,p8 Alonso’s Australia qualifying,Canada and all we all know Ocon isn’t even close to that not even showing any kinda impressive performance and yet get penalties unnecessarily
@@kuyt20 I think Ottmar didn´t expect Alonso to have any chance in other team but Alpine, and they were putting pressure on him. But you could be right, that Ottmar and Rossi wanted Alonso to reject the deal, so they prepared a bad deal for Alonso, made comments praising Ocon and Piastri over Alonso, and allowed Ocon to know he was 1st driver.
Alonso the weeks before this race was saying that he would retire when his teammate was way better than him, but that right now that wasn't the case. Someone got a bit salty+team wanted to put pressure over Alonso as a driver. Result? Ocon ended behind Alonso.
@@Timre23.1 Do you think so, look at EU, what the leaders are doing to there own country´s ?! Don´t underestimate the idiotice of the people, anyone. The World is full of idiots in positions of power, like never before.
The first example you must understand that Ocon drives for Toto first and foremost. Even over his current team. Toto has always been Ocon’s meal ticket into F1. He got him his current spot on Alpine. It’s not surprise that Ocon helps Hamilton out when he can. Remember it was Alonso blocking Hamilton to help Ocon. If the roles were reversed the result would have been entirely different.
Ocon is plain afraid of Alonso. He is terrified that a 41 year old is still a better driver than him at 24 years of age and in all of the drivers' heads they see themselves as title worthy... So getting beaten by an old teammate who is way past his prime is not the nicest thing to happen to them, that's why ocon is extremely aggressive towards Alonso. That's my verdict. He's desperate.
@@fprgamingf1 Alonso is very mature... If he wanted he could have gone and fought as aggressive in Hungary and both would have been out... But he held all his emotions to keep both cars still in the race.
good points in the video. its interesting how the management at alpine are really messing the races up. ocon is under pressure because he is being outpaced by a driver who is old. last year the management used to take control in situations like this, they'd swap and let the driver behind 'have a go' and if the driver behind couldn't make headway they'd swap them back again. see brazil 2021 where alonso slowed down on the last lap to let ocon past. they played amazing team roles last year because management allowed it imo. this year the faster car has often been stuck behind the slower one and losing race time as a result, and management have done nothing. it's easier to follow closely in these cars compared to last year but still you need a faster car or tyre advantage to make a proper move again and again. so disappointing. it makes you wonder had alonso got past on lap 1 could he have challenged norris even after the switch to hards? mclaren was very quick on the hards compared to alpine, hard to say but surely he was the best bet to try, not ocon
And here we are in 2024 with the same issues. I hope he gets replaced soon, not that I care about Alpine at all, it’s just that it would be better to have another driver that deserves it on the grid.
Regarding what was said at the 5:30 timestamp; Stroll is arguably worse. And because Aston is literally owned by him, there are no repercussions. Just watch the last corner last lap at France 2022 for example.
Stroll is accident prone and has no race sense or awareness, but at least with Stroll it's not malicious. He "does an Ocon" on accident, not on purpose.
They way I see it, Szafnauer had heard about Alonso talking to AM (yes he will deny he knew about Alonso's contact with AM in public interviews). I do not buy for one second that he is completely blind to the fact that one of his drivers is not chatting to another team. Therefore he probably asked Ocon to try his best to outshine Alonso on track, no matter the cost. The second half of this season is going to be interesting. Alpine will entirely focus on Ocon. But Alonso will stop giving a s**t about not fighting with Ocon as he knows he will surely now be an afterthought to Alpine. Which means he gets to drive the way he wants and even Ocon would be fair game, and if that causes both of them to DNF, why would he care, right? I can't wait to see Alonso really fighting with Ocon on track now.
Alpine was already entirely focused on Ocon just look at that super long contract ocon got at the drop of a hat the same year he was still beaten by Alonso but Alonso only gets one year Bottas style extensions for his hard work.. Alonso saw the writing on the wall and was looking for an out even from the start of this year and as soon as Aston Martin opened they both snapped each other up immediately. I’m happy about seeing Alonso in a team that will treat him fairly again next year and all the resources they are putting into building a fast car for him.
@@ReX77x77 not even bottas style extensions, it was a one year contract as a seat warmer for a rookie. Massive disrespect to Fernando for no reason at all, i hope AM make a good car next year just so he can shit all over Alpine for this
@@thatlazguy they tried to trick Alonso into a 1 year contract and are now paying the price.. buffoons! Yeah me too! I’m confident he can.. they don’t even have a second driver yet.
I rooted for 0con at first, but eventually it became obvious he was the common denominator in all the conflicts with teammates. The guy makes desperate, selfish decisions that not only hurt his teammate, but the team as a whole. The means by which he tried to un lap himself against Max in Brazil says it all.
I started respecting ocon more and more until this GP where I honestly lost all respect. This was very classless of him to drive the way he did, in Hungary out of all places…
Why did you lose your respect? At the start he is trying to keep his position, and Hamilton was going to get past him anyway, so it makes sense to block a driver you can compete with Also during the pitstops where did you expect Ocon to go? Did you want him to just disappear? Not his fault that Alpine once again delivered a slow pitstop and put him directly in front of the battle
@@agent6599 no point in blocking someone you can compete with if it’s your teammate. alonso is miles ahead of ocon and drivers should never be blocked like this; it’s illegal and especially stupid to do this to your teammate and lose positions to a rival team like ricciardo in the mclaren
Remember Ferrari fighting in the sprint race and then conveniently giving Verstappen the win? Nobody wants to see that, fight when you clearly can't catch whoever in front and it's safe from behind.
I still find it difficult to believe that Ocon was the reason behind Alonso's departure from Alpine. I can't see it happening but at least I can hope Aston Martin will build a car that will put them into the midfield.
I don’t think it’s why he left either. But it may have played a factor in HOW he left. You mess with the Spanish Bull long enough you get the horns. I also don’t think it was directed at Ocon, but rather the team for the way they’ve consistently handled these situations with Ocon, namely, by not handling it at all.
And Snazfauer, and Rossi, want to pay half to Alonso than to Ocon, they are like goats... also they only gave him one year and withdraw him from the WEC and Fernando is a force of nature who wants to continue in F1 for at least two or three years more, he does not want the WEC, he has already won it twice, they believed they could do whatever they wanted with the drivers and they have remained what they are, stupid.
You must be blind then if you find it difficult. You have a NON team mate who does not care about other drivers overtaking you just to block your team mate at every race and opportunity. Then the Team Ambitions are always the same, happy whatever the results. A Team with no Discipline and no Ambitions is a Team doomed to fail in all areas. Alpine Management has been horrendous, the worst I've ever seen just second to McLaren with Ron Dennis supporting Hammilton years back when Alonso was put alongside.
@@Emerich2Situation was different. Alonso and Ocon weren't racing each other directly for the win. Moreover, if Alonso didn't defend, not only Ocon but the team would've lost the win. Alonso defended for the team, not for Ocon. Any competent driver would've done what Ocon did. It's not as if Alonso was faster anyways.
Disgusting behavior from Ocon, and it's not the first time he's done this to Alonso, he just couldn't accept the fact that Fernando was better and faster than him. He wouldn't have won in Hungary the previous year if it wasn't for Alonso's defense on Hamilton.
I mean you guys are the fist ones to acclaim racers as Verstappen, Shumacher or Senna but can’t stand a racing driver trying to keep advantage on their opponent with a similar car. As long as it’s fair and clean, no reason to criticize it.
He trying too hard and in process ruins the whole teams race. And its not like it's prost-senna or hamilton-rosberg where they're fighting alone for the title. They're in the midfield and you can't afford battling your teammate all the time because it will cost you crucial time in the race. The main issue for me is that Ocon only defends hard against alonso. If he was racing the others hard no one would say anything
@@cactusttp_5520 didn't hear them complaining about him defending very aggressively (dirtily) against Hamilton in Monaco, which... 1) kept Hamilton behind for a few laps 2) prevented Hamilton on his inters from closing in on Fernando 3) helped Fernando finish in front of Lewis.
Anyone recall Ocon (lapped) crashing into Vertappen (in the lead) in Brazil, 'because he had the race line'? Back then Verstappen was still seen as rash while Ocon was still a promise - as it happened, we should have known what was to come.
me watching "yelistener - Alonso being the best F1 teammate in Hungary" then see the "Ocon being the worst F1 teammate in Hungary" pop up at the end of the video lol
Ocon has a history of over defending team mates - he clashed on multiple occasions with Perez at Racing point, Perez is a pretty clean driver overall, and on cases he defends team mates harder than other drivers especially lately with Alonso. About the only time I didn’t see him as aggressive was in 2020 at Renault with Daniel Ricciardo as his team mate where he wasn’t as quick over the season and they never were as close to each other
And Mclaren had only hards to put Ricciardo onto ig so they did the absolute same thing and obviously, through logic, decided to put him on the hards that slowed Alpine down even more after Ocon. Great stuff
Ocon is taking the F1 ''your only true benchmark is your own teammate'' motto too seriously. he doesnt care if he gets overtaking by ANYONE, unless its his teammate. the seriously embarrasing amount of points alpine lost this year thanks to Ocon... its staggering...
the thing about Ocon, and I actually like him, is that he's pretty dense. I don't know if it's just the chip on his shoulder, but he always sets his sights on his teammate, the only one that got the best of him without getting into tense situations was Ricciardo. But it was mostly because Ocon took a year off racing and trying to get back up with his driving. Another year and I have no doubt Ricciardo and Ocon get into some messy races with each other. It's good and bad, and sometimes the team has to be strong and get in his face about how he's killing the team... but Alpine always seems like a poorly run team in this regard.
@@Firemarioflower so every team let's their drivers get into fights that cost them 2 positions???? You have to be pretty dense to not see the issue here.
I think you lot need to understand that just because Ocon is racing against a 2 time world champion does not mean he has to be a gentleman and let him pass every time, he is a racing driver, he's here to race, having a go at him for battling with Fernando is basically saying "Oh how dare a racing driver do his job!" people always complain about Lewis and Max fans being the worst but I think this comment section has proved that Alonso fans are about 10x worse than both of them.
Thanks for making this type of videos where you explain everything in detail, otherwise people would not notice these things at all and they will argue till death when you try to explain it. Ocon is a bad teammate, he sometimes seems like he has 0 clue about race craft and what is (and what is not) actually worth fighting for.
This is why I hate how Ocon is portrayed in DTS. He’s made out as this nice Frenchman who just wants to win but who in reality is a jerk to his teammates who are always faster than him. At Racing Point, Checo was faster. At Renault, Danny Ric was faster. At Alpine, Alonso was faster. And now, Gasly will likely be faster. And both Checo and Alonso complained about his aggressiveness towards him. At some point, teams will finally realize he’s not fast enough
@@raunakroy1738in 2020, Ocon lost to Checo in the Driver’s Championship 62 points to 125 when Checo was at Racing Point and Ocon was at Renault. Renault that season finished just 14 points behind Racing Point in the Constructor’s. In 2018 Ocon lost to Checo in the Driver’s Championship 49 points to 62 when both were at Racing Point. In 2017 Ocon lost to Checo in the Driver’s Championship 87 points to 100 when both were at Sahara Force India. Maybe he’s fast enough but he doesn’t beat out his teammates in equal machinery
@@mochachino56 I thought Verstappen shoved Ocon because Ocon overtook him. Didn't they say Ocon was cleared of any wrongdoing? This was before I started watching F1. I just know they had an altercation but it wasn't clear why
Alonso fanboys are the most terrible on the planet of earth. Nothing but excuses. Ocon isn't a Piquet Jr. He won't sacrifice his race just cuz of some niceties from Fernando's side that gave him a win (he earned it also by fending off Vettel). If Alonso is trully faster, then let him show it. He's no match for the Frenchman. Let's start by passing him. Yet that should be no problem for the supposed Spanish god? It's easier than ever thus year with the DRS. Ocon has a contract. Who just does a better job. Plain and simple. Ocon is level headed and yes! He won't make way for any teammate. Perez also arrogantly expected him to move aside in Force India. That cost him dear. Yet now Checo is willing to move over for an even younger guy. Alonso also defended that P5 for himself. So well done Ocon and Alonso needs to step up. Let's hope for him Aston keeps improving.
Most drivers: we’re fighting for the highest position possible and I’m trying to beat my teammate. Ocon: I will sacrifice everything, including finishing higher and hurting my team in the standings, just so I could finish ahead of my teammate. It will be a great day when that piece of trash no longer has a seat in F1.
Norris: No, I ain't fight that 344km/h Leclerc: ua-cam.com/video/3PJZWp_qDvU/v-deo.html
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@@namiboosterhuizen6610you wish lmao
@@footballlatest9510still laughing?
Don't forget that he is not allowed Alonso by overtaking him at the first stint, he was slower so they lost amount of time. Alonso stopped first, he tried to overtake Ocon and Ricciardo overtook both of them. They again lost plenty of time with the hard tyres but Alonso managed to overtake Ocon out of Tv footage (team decision ?) and Alonso finished 15seconds in front of Ocon. I think that's why Alonso decided to go to Aston Martin, it was a big point for his decision.
Lol the agend is stong here , ocon finsihed 2.7 sec behind Alonso + Alonos was let through [ Team orders }. Your statement is so stupid
In onboard footage Alonso was also openly complaining about Ocon being a bad teammate during this, so aal the signs were there
Ocon only target is to beat Alonso in the championship, which is OK, and I think Alonso is going to "choose violence" next time Ocon tries the same. But I think Alonso decided to join Aston Martin because Ottmar just gave him one year contract, and probably tried to reduce his salary. Rossi and Ottmar have their own plan. Alonso was lucky to have a chance in AM, and go far away from these toxic guys.
Well Ocon is French so makes sense why Alpine kind of sees him as the face of alpine
yeah, good luck to ocon with going anywhere with that attitude
Ocon really can't accept the fact that Alonso is still faster than him
"Ocon, Alonso is faster than you."
Ocon isn't a snitch or police boy so he can sleep easy knowing he won't get killed
"fernando is faster than you"
Perhaps he can't confirm he understood that message.
Yeah, Ocon is 27 years old and it's supossed to be faster than a 41 years old guy. People sometimes forget that Alonso is one of the greatests of f1. Hope history make justice for Fernando.
Add the unnecessary defence at the French GP.
His behaviour at the Hungarian GP hastened Alonso's exit from Alpine
Jeddah is another example, where the team might have benefited had they inserted themselves at some point.
Do you think drivers go to another team from one day to the next? Lol
Relations with alpine were already breaking down before this point, and I don't think ocon was gonna be siding with Alonso. Alonso since he left Renault for the first time seemed to bring his bad luck and overly passive aggressiveness everywhere with him, to McLaren both times, and to alpine now. Ocon has done nothing wrong, nor anything different to what Alonso was like with his teammates especially earlier in his career. I love Alonso, but people have to realise much of the bad luck he has had in his career has been brought on by him and his personality, and the same goes for the relation with his teammates
Glad alonso left alpine they don’t deserve a driver like alonso
@@jamesbassil2088 I always felt the same as you mentioned her. Talent doesn’t work if you have a big Ego. Also imagine two big Ego’s of Lawrence and Alonso colliding next year. I just wish AM have a championship winning car soon. The drama that is going to unfold is going to be so much fun.
Anyone else here after watching monaco 2024?
Yep.
Funny, isn't it? When Ocon lost his seat back in 2018, everyone was extremely unhappy, especially when Stroll was his replacement. Now, he is about as popular and likelable as Sir Lancelot. Frankly, I would fire him if I was the Alpine boss.
Yes that video was recommended to me just now😂
Yes, he is a selfish idiot.
Amazed that Ocon still has a seat! I wonder what his future looks like now?
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I’ve always been critical of ocon. The past two seasons he has proved he is the worst person to have as a teammate. There is always one driver on the grid no one wants as a teammate and ocon is definitely that guy.
hes the most aggressive driver on the grid
@@george._mavDBmost stupid*
Everyone in the grid hate them xd
Just the past two seasons?what about since Racing Point
No, He’s not the most aggressive driver on the grid, hes an ego driver, he thinks he is faster than he is so can’t accept that he really isn’t very fast
You are damn right, Ocon's mentality is horrendous. He proves that time and time again, hopefully gets dropped in a season or so
bro raced his teammate harder in his whole career💀
And wonder how tf toto still keep him from the academy. He's not going to ba a good teammate of anyone
I never really understood why people say that he is underrated like he really isn’t THAT good
@Dacia Sandero guys the problem is the mentality and backing behind Alpine is so weak that if they become a backmarker Renault might just give up and pull out entirely.
@@RockSolitude maybe they'll be replaced by a better team
This is not new. Just look at Ocon in force india against Perez. He always defends and battles his teammates too hard. It even cost him his seat in 2019 because no one wanted him in his team because he is trouble, only time this didn't happen so much was with Ricciardo because he got completely destroyed that year.
That's straight up false. Ocon didn't get a seat caus all the other seats were taken and he didn't bring much sponsor money , not caus if the way he raced Perez . Only one of 6 incidents between Ocon and Perez were Ocon's fault
@@timmynicolas8729 exactly, in 2019 he was kicked out his seat by stroll, with him being told he would be replaced most likely sometime in November, when virtually every seat, if not every seat (I can't remember off the top of my head) was already full, this left him having to settle for a reserve for 1 year, but in his 2.5 years back, he has shown to be a solid midfield driver, and I think most of this stuff between him and Alonso on track is due to Alonso breaking down relations with alpine more than anything
Bro, sorry but i disagree with comment. Cause Perez definitely crashing into Ocon for 4-5 times I don’t know. Ocon’s doing mistakes to Alonso this year but don’t forget Qatar defence to Perez. If we come to 2019 seat Ocon kicked because they think like you. I am an Ocon fan. If I tell wrong let me know that.
@@denizberberf1 Perez crashed a lot with ocon from my point of view it was Perez fault but this year ocon is unnecessary defending against Alonso
@@fatal2830 agree
What a disgrace, Esteban really has a problem. He is ahead of Alo in the standings because of luck and Alonso's reliability issues and bad strategies by Alpine. Alonso has been beating him in terms of pure pace all this first half of the season. I'm sure in the second part Fernando is going to destroy him even more and get the points he deserves
Due to Alonso being so unlucky this first part of the season Ocon now really wants to take advantage of that and try to finish ahead of him this season
🤓🤓🤓🤓
@@Lecilemonjeruk nice face reveal of yourself, do another one with clown makeup
Still doesn't change the fact Fernando is a snitch and a police boy who sang on some serious cases. Ocon is a real g, he knows to stick to the code
@@denzel9086 bruh stop talking about the drivers personalities like you know them personally FERNANDO IS JUST FASTER than Esteban and thats it
I used to be such a big Ocon fan. His story of becoming an F1 Driver and not being from wealth or having a very early sponsor like others is really inspiring. But man as he showed time and time again lately how he can be such a prick. This race at Hungary really made that super, crystal clear
His post season statements about his better driving skills than Alonso really proove that he is one of the biggest assholes to take an F1 car lol
That seems to me meritorious from his father, a car mechanic, as for Esteban I am not sure how different that was.
I feel and felt the same way
I know what you mean it's like I wanna like ocon, but he makes sure to do something to ruin his image every chance he gets
I come from the future in 2024 and it only gets worse
Piastri's reason for not accepting alpine's offer..
Let's be honest.
If I had a choice between having Ocon as a teammate and being forced to drive in Indycar for a year, imma do Indycar
As of Spa 2024, that was the RIGHT decision in so many ways!
@@redseven485 AMEN
But yet conviently when he is asked to defend like a lion in Qatar, he could not even hold Checo off for one corner
What did you want him to do lmao , use nitro ?
Wtf can he do on a straight 300m longer than hungarys on a wide track with old tyres compared to new softs for Checo
braindead alonso fans at it again lmao.... did you expect him to defend the same way that alonso did in hungary last year?
@@kobloxy44 what did Checo do on old crusty ass tires against Hamilton in Abu Dhabi? Yeah, exactly. That's how you defend. Ocon is garbage...
Maybe he should've crashed into him, right?
Ocon clearly has a problem with feeling like second best. He's been paired with a lot of teammates that can outdrive him and instead of trying to learn and improve he plays dirty. There's a reason Alonso could hold of Hamilton for 10 laps.
Yeah Alonso was any better in 2007.... bitch please
Ocon had many clashes with Checo in Force India. IMO is the most overrated driver on the grid. His racecraft is very weak.
We only confirm that Ocon was the main problem, not saying checo was innocent but at least we know he was deffending himself
2017 ocon was good, but it wasn't necessarily him clashing with checo, checo had clashed with him too in spa once, i remember.
@FG2jit he was a mercedes reserve driver like Russell, so people had high hopes for him
@@except_nothing I’m still mad that he got the Force India seat and Wehrlein had to settle for the Sauber.
@@masterjackhalo looking at how checo and max drive very fluidly together, very clear ocons an issue
Anyone here after Monaco 2024?
Yup
Lol yeah
Yep
Me
BYE BYE OCON 🎉🎉🎉🎉
UA-cam algorithm taking me here after first race of 2023 is glorious.
Alonso in Aston Martin being driver of the day, showing everybody that he is still the boss, and Ocon being a clown getting penalties like an amateur.
Like Alonso would say: Karma!
Remember the Ocon-Perez days? He managed to make the best teammate in F1 his enemy. Class act this guy👏
agreed. guy is a joke
@@yugarten8523 fr most of the accidents were Perez fault
@@speedyplayz23 Combination of both
So we gonna pretend like Perez didnt cause most of those accidents because he was being an asshole? And he knew he could get away with it because Force India was dependent on the sponsorship money he brought
@@speedyplayz23 like Baku, when Ocon pushed Perez into the wall, and robbed the team of a potential 1-2? Perez was only at fault for Spa, it was a payback for Ocon's antics.
Ocon is just an average driver, that is why he focuses his frustration on a two-time world champion with 41 years old who makes him look like an amateur every single race for 2 years in a row
You sure?
@@j.s3300 pretty much
@@chevesj and yet its alonso running away
@@j.s3300 yes because alpine prefer keeping a stupid driver just because he eats baguette and its a french team
@@j.s3300 i mean if your boss and management screwed you over multiple times like that and you were given the same job with better pay and a longer contract, wouldn't you 'run away'?
I for one, is actually not against teammates racing each other as long as it is done fair and square. I'm from an era when having that is expected and part of the excitement.
But to do it poorly at the cost of letting someone else from another team pass, like Ocon does regularly, is a whole different story.
If they’re both fighting for a title then fair enough, but they’re a midfield team trying to secure as many points as possible. This was just Ocon being a bitter teammate and sore loser.
Your speaking FACTS man if your not liked by by a lot of f1 fans then you get a lot more shit than you wound if the media and fans liked unless you from France
@@debaitf1686 the issue is Ocon is costing the team while doing it. I’d have nothing against the block in lap 1. Except he left the outside side open and let a car steam down the outside. Then his stupid games cost them a spot to Daniel
Play stupid games when your alone not when you have a rival sniffing your tail pipe.
@@DevinEMILE why point is that Ocon gets a lot more shit than let say like Russel if they both did the same thing and yeah Russel would get shit but in a weeks time not people wound talk about it but whenever it’s Ocon you go on and on and on and on and on
@@debaitf1686 Probably because Russell doesn't have a history of wrecking his teammates. The Goat never was really was fast enough to be in that spot. While Ocon while with Force India/Racing point made it a common sight to see the two of them tangling. Thats not to say they were all his fault. But its still a history of doing it.
Esteban is literally L human being. I remembered the days when he and Gasly were like childhood bestfriend, and their relationship wrecked just because Esteban’s jealousy of Gasly’s earlier career success in F1. This guy simply has a bad attitude and heart towards all of his teammates. if he continues to be like that so, i just hope that no teams would like to take him as a driver man. L
You know them ? If yes can you get me in relation with them I would love to take a picture with Gasly. Seriously, you are talking bs they were friend in the past, Ocon's father was the mechanical of Gasly in his karting days. The friendship stopped after a race in Karting when one did a dirty overtake (I didn't remember who). It have nothing to do with Gasly early's success in F1
Ocon is a middle/low class driver and Alonso is a master. And that is reflected in every single minute of racing.
Jeddah is another example, where the team might have benefited had the team inserted themselves at some point. It was neat to watch but couldn’t help but think the in race resources could’ve been used against opponents instead.
Just let them race, since when do people want team order??
@@terminayt6457 ong if Alonso was doing that people would be praising him
@@terminayt6457 thats why you or ppl with same thinking cant be a team principal.. if you are not winning driver championship your only goal is constructor championship and there you need to maximize points and team orders are necessary to do it.. it is bussiness not fun for them .. shut up already about let them race ..
@@ILikeRice88924 💯
Poor leadership at alpine, should control both their drivers better
And ironically after all that Ocon still finished behind alonso
Since his clash with Verstappen in 2018 or something, I knew there's a problem with this guy. He had issues with Checo in Force India/RP, and again here with Alonso. He's good, but not good enough. He doesn't know how to pick his own fight. Always racing with the wrong people on track, only god knows what he wants to prove.
As a French, and since he's French, I assume he wants to protect his French pride. Which makes no senses.
He could've learn from Alonso being the best teamplayer in 2021 but he decided to be the average online arcade racing game driver who thinks he's good.
Checo actually had a problem with ocon. He was the one that didn’t move over in Canada 2017 which cost ocon the chance of a podium and left them vulnerable to Vettel catching and passing them both. Also checo is the one that defended aggressively and took both cars out in spa and the incident in Singapore
@@danieljung5036 actually ocon was passed because he had pitted. Ocon had every right to unlap himself. As Hamilton said, Verstappen was the one that had everything to lose and didn't need to take a risk closing the door on a lapped car that he wasn't racing. He was well clear of Hamilton behind so he wouldn't have lost much time had he let ocon pass
I agree, Ocon is a complete idiot and worst team mate in the last years of F1
Yeah that thing in Brazil was disgraceful
1 year later Alonso has achieved many podiums and Ocon is crying.
Can't wait to see him get absolutely humbled by Pierre this year
commenting this after the Australian GP
it didnt take too long until they crashed each other out XD
And also he crash into pieree now in austalia 2023
@@zulfarisekapermata3056 How did Ocon crash into Gasly?
Commented after the 2023 season: Ocon humbled by Gasly. The world is right again
This is exactly what everyone was asking... How? Why? WTF? @@KavinRamchandran
Never thought of Ocon’s sole victory as one he earned, rather one that was handed to him, Ocon had a history of being not only a bad teammate, but slower than whoever he’s paired with and getting into unnecessary collisions, this was really apparent when he was paired with Sergio Perez back in the Force India days
He was faster than Perez in 2018 tho anyone who watched that season can agree . + Only baku is his fault , what about Canada ,spa (twice) , Singapore or hungary ?
@@timmynicolas8729 idk what people are on about cos Checo did shove him in the wall more but also he is fighting to show his talent against Fernando
Playing devils advocate, he won against Vettel because of chaos + help from his teammate + Vettel's slow pit stop and Vettel was faster still (had like 2 or 3 chances) but he couldn't get past because it's hungary
@@metamonogatari3139 vettel got DQ due to fuel infringement anyway
@@gherbo1609 yeah can't deny that
I don't know whose gonna take the 2023 Alpine seat, but I'm sure they will hate Ocon 👍
and fernando is the worst driver to destroy a team
@@X-TREME34 toxic brit I assume?
@@Dolek135 obviously
@@X-TREME34 Alpine is such a toxic team to be part of, just look how they treated Prost
@@Dolek135 he has point alonso is not clean we all know his works from the past
Good point. I was really shocked how ruthless Ocon was to his teammate. Only HAM-ROS days comes to mind.
My guess is that he was genuinely shocked by Alonso form. In his 41 he gives Ocon (who is in his best shape) crazy challenge. In spite of a valuable skull, Ocon got well aging legend who outshined him.
Even his highest achievement - P1 in Hungary is shadowed by incredible ALO performance.
He doesn't give him crazy challenge, he wipes the floor with him. It would be an insult to Alonso to consider them on the same level or even close.
@@mohammeded-dahbi7603 how does he wipe the floor with him? Even if you equalize both of their issues they are pretty close to each other. I’d agree it to be an insult if you compared each other’s prime, but literally anyone who isn’t some biased Alonso stan can see they are evenly matched right now
@@agent6599 No they're not? Alonso has had superior race pace throughout the vast majority of the season. Last year they were much closer to each other, but this year Alonso is significantly better. The thing is, Alpine for some reason decide not to use team orders. In Canada he was literally faster with an issue in ERS deployment. And he had much more bad luck throughout the season.
He wouldn't have had that P1 in Hungary had it not been for Alonso. Ocon's only win in F1 and it was a gift from his teammate. I don't see Ocon ever standing on another F1 podium.
@@agent6599 Are you for real?! You must be French.
This is why i don’t like ocon.
Oh that's why. Thanks
And now Fernando finish p3 while Ocon got DNF.
-Where is Estaban?
-Ocon has retired
-Karma!
GRANDE ALONSO, TE QUEREMOS NANOO
Alonso stays clear because these kids are always ready to destroy thousands in parts and potential sponsorships
Perfect example of how a guy worth gold always ends up at the wrong team at the wrong time.
Agree
Alonso is about 150 pounds, and that weight in gold is about $4 million. He is literally worth more than his weight in gold to a Formula 1 team i.e. the difference having him will make in WCC standings alone will be worth more than that
Alonso is himself a cancer and fully the reason why he isn't in a better car or team. He was too scared to fight Hamilton on equal terms in an equal car so he tucked his tail and ran back to flabbio to fix races. Alonso has gotten far more than he has deserved out of F1.
Alonso is also a jerk, don't understand why people portray him as the messiah.
@@dragonkrieg4444 Bloody hell you're right.
Also you forgot to mention lap 1 chicane incident where ocon pushed alonso off track
Remember how everyone was praising him in 17/18? Alpine are so stupid for keeping him until 2024
He is French
He’s been awesome since last season… One bad race and he’s a bad driver? He hadn’t had and incident with a teammate since 2018 (Singapore), and it was completely checos fault
@@betobeto1241 One? ONE? Open your eyes, mate. Should help.
@@Dolek135 go on, tell me which incidents he’s had? Fucking plastic fans please leave the sport, ur just freaking toxic for no reason. Ocon has been awesome all season. I swear he could save someone’s life and ud still say that he’s a shitty human being…
@FG2jit Jeddah was a fair fight, even Alonso said that..
This is a disgrace. Ocon only focusing to win agaisnt Alonso, and letting all oponents overtaking. This is not teamwork. He cant accept that Alonso is better than him with 41 years. Immature mentality.
I'm here after his idiotic zero-chance attempt on Gasly at Portier.
He should be replaced Idk y alpine is keeping him
Only got win one ocon (we all know how)
Alpine 2022 cars have qualifying pace has more potential than getting p7,p8
Alonso’s Australia qualifying,Canada and all we all know
Ocon isn’t even close to that not even showing any kinda impressive performance and yet get penalties unnecessarily
Him being French is the only reason why Alpine is keeping him.
Imagine if alpine knew that Alonso would depart before the race and they instructed Ocon to block him because of that.
Exactly what I think. I do not buy for one second that Szafnauer was completely blind to Alonso talking to another team.
Only thing that doesn't make sence then is that you still want the best constructors place when the championship is over
@@kuyt20 I think Ottmar didn´t expect Alonso to have any chance in other team but Alpine, and they were putting pressure on him. But you could be right, that Ottmar and Rossi wanted Alonso to reject the deal, so they prepared a bad deal for Alonso, made comments praising Ocon and Piastri over Alonso, and allowed Ocon to know he was 1st driver.
Alonso the weeks before this race was saying that he would retire when his teammate was way better than him, but that right now that wasn't the case.
Someone got a bit salty+team wanted to put pressure over Alonso as a driver.
Result? Ocon ended behind Alonso.
@@Timre23.1 Do you think so, look at EU, what the leaders are doing to there own country´s ?! Don´t underestimate the idiotice of the people, anyone. The World is full of idiots in positions of power, like never before.
Ocon, Fernando is faster than you
Everyone just laughs at Ocon at this point and I love that
The first example you must understand that Ocon drives for Toto first and foremost. Even over his current team. Toto has always been Ocon’s meal ticket into F1. He got him his current spot on Alpine. It’s not surprise that Ocon helps Hamilton out when he can. Remember it was Alonso blocking Hamilton to help Ocon. If the roles were reversed the result would have been entirely different.
Yep. Esteban works for Merc. No surprise he helped Lewis.
And it’s safe to say that I won’t be missing the days of having Ocon as a F1 driver !
Looking forward to see how Alonso handles him in the second half of the season.
Hope he bullies alpine and ocon
@@bean2705 😂 yeah, really hope he beats them up a bit.
Ocon is plain afraid of Alonso. He is terrified that a 41 year old is still a better driver than him at 24 years of age and in all of the drivers' heads they see themselves as title worthy... So getting beaten by an old teammate who is way past his prime is not the nicest thing to happen to them, that's why ocon is extremely aggressive towards Alonso.
That's my verdict.
He's desperate.
Imagine if Esteban had the opposite mindset, how great Alpine would be 🥲
@@fprgamingf1 Alonso is very mature... If he wanted he could have gone and fought as aggressive in Hungary and both would have been out... But he held all his emotions to keep both cars still in the race.
i would argue alonso is still mesmerizing to watch, especially his racecraft as good as ever, always aggressive but never over the line
Or Alonso gets upset too easily when someone beats him or races hard against him. I refer you all the way back to 2007
@@tombardsley3081 yeah 15 years ago...
leaving alpine may have been the best decision alonso has taken in his career
How ridiculous is it that you want to screw your teammate so much you let other teams pass you both?
Good that Alonso will leave the team. I really wish for Aston to step up their game in 2023 so that Alonso can shine.
And they did 🎉
5 podiums out of 6 races!!!
good points in the video. its interesting how the management at alpine are really messing the races up. ocon is under pressure because he is being outpaced by a driver who is old. last year the management used to take control in situations like this, they'd swap and let the driver behind 'have a go' and if the driver behind couldn't make headway they'd swap them back again. see brazil 2021 where alonso slowed down on the last lap to let ocon past. they played amazing team roles last year because management allowed it imo. this year the faster car has often been stuck behind the slower one and losing race time as a result, and management have done nothing. it's easier to follow closely in these cars compared to last year but still you need a faster car or tyre advantage to make a proper move again and again. so disappointing. it makes you wonder had alonso got past on lap 1 could he have challenged norris even after the switch to hards? mclaren was very quick on the hards compared to alpine, hard to say but surely he was the best bet to try, not ocon
Szafnauer is the difference between this year and last year. Don't think much of him. Marcin Budowski was much more polished.
@@richards4456 yeah, my thoughts too. he didn't seem like he'd fit in the team like he did at force india prior to stroll takeover
The most overrated driver in the current grid
Not that many people rate him in the first place
Especially with how he's fairing against a 40 year old Alonso
much slower than a 40 y/o Fernando
@@tennisaddict2024 yeah old Alonso need to retire like Kimi
@@stanb5716 He's wiping the floor with Ocon. Clean your eyes ;)
And here we are in 2024 with the same issues. I hope he gets replaced soon, not that I care about Alpine at all, it’s just that it would be better to have another driver that deserves it on the grid.
Ocon was always the worst teammate on-track in F1. Ask Perez. I wouldn't miss him a bit should he leave F1 again.
Last year, it was Mazepin
Perez was responsible for 90 percent of incidents in 2017-18
What crap. Well Perez is the perfect teammate now to Max because he is so slow.
Regarding what was said at the 5:30 timestamp; Stroll is arguably worse. And because Aston is literally owned by him, there are no repercussions. Just watch the last corner last lap at France 2022 for example.
Stroll is accident prone and has no race sense or awareness, but at least with Stroll it's not malicious. He "does an Ocon" on accident, not on purpose.
he is not THAT bad imo
They way I see it, Szafnauer had heard about Alonso talking to AM (yes he will deny he knew about Alonso's contact with AM in public interviews). I do not buy for one second that he is completely blind to the fact that one of his drivers is not chatting to another team. Therefore he probably asked Ocon to try his best to outshine Alonso on track, no matter the cost.
The second half of this season is going to be interesting. Alpine will entirely focus on Ocon. But Alonso will stop giving a s**t about not fighting with Ocon as he knows he will surely now be an afterthought to Alpine. Which means he gets to drive the way he wants and even Ocon would be fair game, and if that causes both of them to DNF, why would he care, right? I can't wait to see Alonso really fighting with Ocon on track now.
Alpine was already entirely focused on Ocon just look at that super long contract ocon got at the drop of a hat the same year he was still beaten by Alonso but Alonso only gets one year Bottas style extensions for his hard work.. Alonso saw the writing on the wall and was looking for an out even from the start of this year and as soon as Aston Martin opened they both snapped each other up immediately. I’m happy about seeing Alonso in a team that will treat him fairly again next year and all the resources they are putting into building a fast car for him.
@@ReX77x77 not even bottas style extensions, it was a one year contract as a seat warmer for a rookie. Massive disrespect to Fernando for no reason at all, i hope AM make a good car next year just so he can shit all over Alpine for this
@@thatlazguy they tried to trick Alonso into a 1 year contract and are now paying the price.. buffoons! Yeah me too! I’m confident he can.. they don’t even have a second driver yet.
@@ReX77x77 can't wait to watch ocon take both seats and defend against himself while letting other drivers through
@@thatlazguy 😂
I rooted for 0con at first, but eventually it became obvious he was the common denominator in all the conflicts with teammates. The guy makes desperate, selfish decisions that not only hurt his teammate, but the team as a whole. The means by which he tried to un lap himself against Max in Brazil says it all.
Karma struck him this year with the alpine being a backmarker. Guy won't be overtaking anyone, with many possibly lapping him 🤣
I started respecting ocon more and more until this GP where I honestly lost all respect. This was very classless of him to drive the way he did, in Hungary out of all places…
Why did you lose your respect? At the start he is trying to keep his position, and Hamilton was going to get past him anyway, so it makes sense to block a driver you can compete with
Also during the pitstops where did you expect Ocon to go? Did you want him to just disappear? Not his fault that Alpine once again delivered a slow pitstop and put him directly in front of the battle
@@agent6599 no point in blocking someone you can compete with if it’s your teammate. alonso is miles ahead of ocon and drivers should never be blocked like this; it’s illegal and especially stupid to do this to your teammate and lose positions to a rival team like ricciardo in the mclaren
Strange...everyone dislikes team orders,but when they fight everyone get salty.
There is time and place to fight your teammate, but when you get nothing out of it and lose very good points because of it, its not good
Remember Ferrari fighting in the sprint race and then conveniently giving Verstappen the win? Nobody wants to see that, fight when you clearly can't catch whoever in front and it's safe from behind.
I still find it difficult to believe that Ocon was the reason behind Alonso's departure from Alpine. I can't see it happening but at least I can hope Aston Martin will build a car that will put them into the midfield.
I don’t think it’s why he left either. But it may have played a factor in HOW he left. You mess with the Spanish Bull long enough you get the horns. I also don’t think it was directed at Ocon, but rather the team for the way they’ve consistently handled these situations with Ocon, namely, by not handling it at all.
It's probably more than just Ocon. Probably Alpine as a team not respecting Alonso enough and even money from Lawrence Stroll
Lol good luck at aston career done now
And Snazfauer, and Rossi, want to pay half to Alonso than to Ocon, they are like goats... also they only gave him one year and withdraw him from the WEC and Fernando is a force of nature who wants to continue in F1 for at least two or three years more, he does not want the WEC, he has already won it twice, they believed they could do whatever they wanted with the drivers and they have remained what they are, stupid.
You must be blind then if you find it difficult. You have a NON team mate who does not care about other drivers overtaking you just to block your team mate at every race and opportunity. Then the Team Ambitions are always the same, happy whatever the results. A Team with no Discipline and no Ambitions is a Team doomed to fail in all areas.
Alpine Management has been horrendous, the worst I've ever seen just second to McLaren with Ron Dennis supporting Hammilton years back when Alonso was put alongside.
Ocon has a huge history of this, his days with Perez speak for themselves.
Now I’m really happy that Checo put him in the wall multiple times during their stints in Force India/Racing Point. He deserved those
imagine you hate someone so much you wish him very dangerous situations
There is a reason almost nobody on the grid likes Ocon, especially his ex teammates
Mick likes him
@@jxswu3224 Mick is a loser and a stain on his dad’s legacy, enjoy DTM next year mick
FERNANDO WOULD HAVE DONE THE SAME ROLES REVERSED. HOLY FUCK. Double standards.
And if Fernando did the same thing people would be praising him
Yea
then why did alonso defend hamilton so long so that his teammate can win?
@@Emerich2 Dumb fuck.... That was also his own position he wanted to keep
@@Emerich2Situation was different. Alonso and Ocon weren't racing each other directly for the win. Moreover, if Alonso didn't defend, not only Ocon but the team would've lost the win. Alonso defended for the team, not for Ocon. Any competent driver would've done what Ocon did. It's not as if Alonso was faster anyways.
Ocon at his finest. I am surprized that he Alpine kept him for so long... and now he is showing in Monaco again what he is capable....
Disgusting behavior from Ocon, and it's not the first time he's done this to Alonso, he just couldn't accept the fact that Fernando was better and faster than him. He wouldn't have won in Hungary the previous year if it wasn't for Alonso's defense on Hamilton.
I mean you guys are the fist ones to acclaim racers as Verstappen, Shumacher or Senna but can’t stand a racing driver trying to keep advantage on their opponent with a similar car. As long as it’s fair and clean, no reason to criticize it.
He trying too hard and in process ruins the whole teams race. And its not like it's prost-senna or hamilton-rosberg where they're fighting alone for the title. They're in the midfield and you can't afford battling your teammate all the time because it will cost you crucial time in the race. The main issue for me is that Ocon only defends hard against alonso. If he was racing the others hard no one would say anything
@@hnnwom3572 He also defend hard on others, they are just not all shown… Just look at his in board
@@cactusttp_5520 didn't hear them complaining about him defending very aggressively (dirtily) against Hamilton in Monaco, which...
1) kept Hamilton behind for a few laps
2) prevented Hamilton on his inters from closing in on Fernando
3) helped Fernando finish in front of Lewis.
@@hlonim8667 I mean he did get a penslty there at some point…
ocon defending his position at the start? unbelivable!
alonso went out on his own aswell.
this why alonso make a move to aston
Alonso gifted him his first win and Ocon pays backs but being an absolute rat
Anyone recall Ocon (lapped) crashing into Vertappen (in the lead) in Brazil, 'because he had the race line'? Back then Verstappen was still seen as rash while Ocon was still a promise - as it happened, we should have known what was to come.
ultimate team game by ocon and hamilton in lap 1 🙂
Here after Monaco 😬
‘Ocon is ready to lead the team…’ thanks for a good laugh….😂😂👍
me watching "yelistener - Alonso being the best F1 teammate in Hungary" then see the "Ocon being the worst F1 teammate in Hungary" pop up at the end of the video lol
Ocon has a history of over defending team mates - he clashed on multiple occasions with Perez at Racing point, Perez is a pretty clean driver overall, and on cases he defends team mates harder than other drivers especially lately with Alonso. About the only time I didn’t see him as aggressive was in 2020 at Renault with Daniel Ricciardo as his team mate where he wasn’t as quick over the season and they never were as close to each other
And Mclaren had only hards to put Ricciardo onto ig so they did the absolute same thing and obviously, through logic, decided to put him on the hards that slowed Alpine down even more after Ocon. Great stuff
Ocons onboard on the lap start makes his move look x10s worse than on TV, the space Hamilton gets is insane
Esteban can't see himself losing to Fernando
He already lost last year and will also lose this year. Alonso's pace is too much for this guy.
@@turognlz1447 Alonso owns him in Qualifyings.
But the team somehow messes up Alonso's strategy.
No wonder why he's leaving Alpine
@@GallactusF1 Alpine slowly turning into Ferrari.
I see him losing to Alonso all the time. Too bad he can't see it.
Brazil Sprint brought me here.
Ocon is taking the F1 ''your only true benchmark is your own teammate'' motto too seriously. he doesnt care if he gets overtaking by ANYONE, unless its his teammate.
the seriously embarrasing amount of points alpine lost this year thanks to Ocon... its staggering...
the thing about Ocon, and I actually like him, is that he's pretty dense. I don't know if it's just the chip on his shoulder, but he always sets his sights on his teammate, the only one that got the best of him without getting into tense situations was Ricciardo. But it was mostly because Ocon took a year off racing and trying to get back up with his driving. Another year and I have no doubt Ricciardo and Ocon get into some messy races with each other. It's good and bad, and sometimes the team has to be strong and get in his face about how he's killing the team... but Alpine always seems like a poorly run team in this regard.
Every damn F1 driver focuses on his teammate goddamnit
It's not a birthday party to give presents.
@@Firemarioflower so every team let's their drivers get into fights that cost them 2 positions???? You have to be pretty dense to not see the issue here.
Im from the future and Alonso is P3, Ocon DNF in the first race in Bahrain 2023.
I don't think blocking Alonso made a massive difference tbh because Lewis's start was much better than both of thiers.
They could have blocked Hamilton together had Ocon chose to defend the outside line.
I think you lot need to understand that just because Ocon is racing against a 2 time world champion does not mean he has to be a gentleman and let him pass every time, he is a racing driver, he's here to race, having a go at him for battling with Fernando is basically saying "Oh how dare a racing driver do his job!" people always complain about Lewis and Max fans being the worst but I think this comment section has proved that Alonso fans are about 10x worse than both of them.
Love the transitions from elevator music to screaming F1 engines
Thanks for making this type of videos where you explain everything in detail, otherwise people would not notice these things at all and they will argue till death when you try to explain it. Ocon is a bad teammate, he sometimes seems like he has 0 clue about race craft and what is (and what is not) actually worth fighting for.
This is why I hate how Ocon is portrayed in DTS. He’s made out as this nice Frenchman who just wants to win but who in reality is a jerk to his teammates who are always faster than him. At Racing Point, Checo was faster. At Renault, Danny Ric was faster. At Alpine, Alonso was faster. And now, Gasly will likely be faster. And both Checo and Alonso complained about his aggressiveness towards him. At some point, teams will finally realize he’s not fast enough
Since when Checo was faster than Ocon?
@@raunakroy1738in 2020, Ocon lost to Checo in the Driver’s Championship 62 points to 125 when Checo was at Racing Point and Ocon was at Renault. Renault that season finished just 14 points behind Racing Point in the Constructor’s. In 2018 Ocon lost to Checo in the Driver’s Championship 49 points to 62 when both were at Racing Point. In 2017 Ocon lost to Checo in the Driver’s Championship 87 points to 100 when both were at Sahara Force India. Maybe he’s fast enough but he doesn’t beat out his teammates in equal machinery
"Fernando is faster than you, Fernando is faster than you"
This phrase haunts Ocon in his sleep
The spirit of Massa overtook him.
No wonder why Pérez doesn't miss Ocon as a team mate XD hope Alonso gets a competitive Aston Martin in the next seasons
Ocon received 25 seconds worth of time penalties last weekend. Karma?
plot twist: another reason why alonso left Alpine
2:19 i bet Hamilton was buzzing almost laughing his head off at all that free space Ocon gave him 😂 to Alonso as well ffs Ocon 😂
Pause way too ling for the text bro
This aged very well!
Esteban can care about only one opponent per season.
The one driving the same car as his.
Feeling respect for Verstappen. If you know you know!
I cant forget that day, Max punching ocon because of ocon getting lapped
Yeah the day Verstappen crashed into Ocon for no reason
@@mochachino56 I thought Verstappen shoved Ocon because Ocon overtook him. Didn't they say Ocon was cleared of any wrongdoing? This was before I started watching F1. I just know they had an altercation but it wasn't clear why
Alonso fanboys are the most terrible on the planet of earth. Nothing but excuses. Ocon isn't a Piquet Jr. He won't sacrifice his race just cuz of some niceties from Fernando's side that gave him a win (he earned it also by fending off Vettel).
If Alonso is trully faster, then let him show it. He's no match for the Frenchman. Let's start by passing him. Yet that should be no problem for the supposed Spanish god? It's easier than ever thus year with the DRS. Ocon has a contract. Who just does a better job. Plain and simple. Ocon is level headed and yes! He won't make way for any teammate. Perez also arrogantly expected him to move aside in Force India. That cost him dear. Yet now Checo is willing to move over for an even younger guy.
Alonso also defended that P5 for himself.
So well done Ocon and Alonso needs to step up. Let's hope for him Aston keeps improving.
spoiler:Alonso ended up 15 seconds ahead of Ocon due to pure race pace, but the damage was already done, prob hold him up 20 seconds moee
Most drivers: we’re fighting for the highest position possible and I’m trying to beat my teammate.
Ocon: I will sacrifice everything, including finishing higher and hurting my team in the standings, just so I could finish ahead of my teammate.
It will be a great day when that piece of trash no longer has a seat in F1.
Who's here after news of Alpine finally getting rid of Ocon?
Me
I hate Ocon with a passion , happy to see him and Alpine in the shit nowadays
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