My father was a superb trombonist. At his funeral last winter, his casket was accompanied out of the chapel by The Acrobat, played live by a quartet holding back their tears. The resultant bum notes on this difficult piece were entirely appropriate and everyone understood. My sister and I decided it should be this piece accompanying him; it was on his music stand, as the last thing he practiced.
Thinking about it, the plastic instruments would also be amazing for high school marching band, especially if you get them in colors to match the school's own colors. Plus in cold parades (Christmas/New year's in North America) the plastic mouthpiece wouldn't freeze to the lips like my 6 1/2 AL did.
Yeah, that's an excellent point. I hate little more during a marching show than when the mouthpiece freezes to your face. I would also think that the tuning on the plastic trombone would be more consistent in varying temperatures.
@@Chatroom64 I did field drills in HS and for some reason it never froze to my face, even in winter. When it's cold, I generally keep a brass mouthpiece in my pants pocket when I'm not playing; nowadays, that's for Tubachristmas, which can be quite cold.
most everyone ive seen playing plastic trombones use standard mouthpieces rather than the plastic trombone, it helps a little bit with the overall airy sound
If anyone is looking to buy a plastic trombone or trumpet, I highly recommend the pBone/pTrumpet. They are very good quality and produce good sound as long as you use a metal mouthpiece. I have never tried the Tromba brand, but pBone is better than every other plastic instrument I have tested.
Hello. I am currently working on something incredible. Something new. Not pBone.. In 1-2 years from now the new model for kids will come out and then move further.
I tend to use my plastic trombone if I'm playing outside in the cold, I also use a metal mouthpiece with it. I think it's great for doing performances that don't necessarily require being extremely precise and in tune. Great review!
The P-Bone plastic Trombones are pretty good, my band teacher has one and it's sounds pretty good tune-wise, but you can hear the difference in sound from a normal brass one.
realJAMES I find the sound of the metal t-bone fuller although I see the point of the plastic trombone it does have its good side but it's not good sound wise
Mint in Black you just heard it, pretty similar until you start going mezzo forte, the brass one is much more vibrant while the plastic one still sounds a bit softer
I have one of these in blue, but its brand is pBone and it looks identical to that one. I only use it for practice so that I don’t have to carry my brass one back and forth to school, and I agree with everything in this video. I will say that theoretically you and all of your friends could get them in different colors and then switch out the pieces and make rainbow instruments!
Chinese or Indian brass instruments: imitations of functional instrument plastic trombone/trumpet/tuba: viable instruments only limited by the plastic material very impressed at how the plastic instruments are quite good for their price point. not toy horns at all but weight-saving alternatives to heavier brass and very affordable for a new instrument.
Thank you Trent. Great review. My 6 year old daughter picked up a P Bone tonight for the first time, and as a woodwind teacher I'm out of my depth, but my gut instinct tells me any plastic instrument can take a bit of a beating, so it was fantastic to have that confirmed. 👍🏻
Worth noting (and I hope others already have) is that the PBone's slide is carbon fiber, which is why it's sturdy and light enough to be usable. ALSO: Mine wasn't glued strongly enough between the slide "handle" and the outer slide, so it launched off the end when playing. Bad, right? But fixing it was super-easy: just a dab of glue, and it's been good ever since. Much easier and safer to fix than silver-soldering a regular brasswind (which I've done enough over the years).
A single light wipe of coconut oil would do wonders for the fluidity and sound of the slide on that plastic trombone. It would be silent and handle a lot better. I was actually quite surprised in how it sounded.
I bought a pBone for my son for beginning band (6th grade) and he just couldn't get it to sound. I had allowed him to take my classic Conn to get started while waiting for the right opportunity to come along. This took about 5 weeks and he had developed a decent sound. Once it arrived, he tried it for several days but, since he started playing on a Conn "real" trombone, he was used to how free a quality instrument plays. After his experience, I really compared them and the pBone felt less resonant and more restrictive. I can make the pBone sound pretty good but, it was too much effort for a beginner student. Add in the less than ideal slide and it was holding him back more than helping. I love the concept of the plastic instruments!! Their greatest strength is they can be abused without concern and are very inexpensive. However, I feel the pBone would be best for students who are a little more seasoned - at least a year or two. They'd be great HS marching band instruments.
Even with the friction noise of the slide, it would probably be good for a junior marching band - especially for the inevitable dropping of the instrument on the parade ground.
I've been learning trombone on a Sam Ash Jean Baptiste pvc bone - if you gently knock down the high spots on the plastic part of the inner slide with say 320 grit wet-dry sandpaper and then hit it with 1000 & 2000 grit while wet and lube & spray it'll be smoother and quieter.
Superb description. I work with 'bone' players who use the plastic one in precisely the same "risky" situations but keep their Olds with a fluted slide, or their KIngs, serious machine for serious and more secure situations. However, I am also reminded of the old adage that a good musician can make more out of a lousy instrument than a beginner or an impostor can with a $8,000 work of art! Great Video.. Thank you.
I work in a warehouse with other musicians and considered buying one of these so i dont put my brass horn in harms way. Your review has solidified my decision
I think the pbone has its place in practicing because its so light and comfortable to play. That being said it sounds like a trombone but does not resonate like brass. A cheap $200 student model trombone on amazon sounds better. Wont play better but the brass will resonate like brass. People wont be able to tell if you're practicing on a plastic trombone vs a brass one if you're at home or just a hobbyist.
Very entertaining review of the Plastic and Cheap trombone. I have a Jean Baptiste Plastic trombone. I used sandpaper on the slide to smooth it out. It worked a little. The slide is smoother. But is still is a plastic horn that has no life in the bell. I like the final moment when you flipped it out of your hand.
I played a pbone brand plastic trombone when I started playing the trombone, it served me very well for a couple of years and I managed to get a very decent sound out of it.
Thanks Trent. I trust your opinions on this stuff more than anybody else I know. Am looking to pick up a cheap trom now that I am not regularly playing out so this kind of thing may be perfect
I have a Pbone and Ptrumpet and am quite happy with the sound and quality...even having previously had a Bach Strad trumpet.... I couldn’t afford it at this point in life..... I also have non plastic cheap instruments....flute and clarinet...and they are decent..... Decent affordable options to get into music, especially if you have kids that change their mind (or like me having to play every instrument)
In my estimation, you were able to play the cheap metal one more in tune than the plastic one. I heard similar tuning issues in a review of the plastic Ptrumpet. We're all aware trombone tuning depends on precisely positioning the slide; nonetheless, I've heard tuning issues on both plastics.
can confirm these are durable. source: played these at football games in the stands which involves getting lots of love taps and various abuses. Plus applied spray paint for weird patterns for fun and also random stickers as the years had gone on. Now it has been resigned to its fate of resting in its case for a long time possibly forever. However I can't bear to part with the piece of shit XD. has a lot of great memories attached to it and it's absurd war camo and stickers. If you are in a highschool band that plays at football games or anything like that, get a pbone. and then feel free to customize. it sounds decent and wont suffer from your customization, within reason. Should provide a lot of great memories.
I've thought for some time that my moped doesn't make enough noise. I've decided to have someone sitting on the back giving it absolute full screaming volume on a trombone. This will be a simple yet effective answer.
You should really try a Pbone Trombone, or those series of instruments, my band teacher has some and they are pretty good, I'd love to see a video like this @Trent Hamilton!
Eternal grinning at the place and context where the word 'slide cream' was used. Also, it seems that the new Tromba Pro Trombones have the entire inner slide made out of brass, in order to address the 'black shavings' issue some people complained about with the first version.
I had one of the Eastman Shires horns, and it played pretty well. My Massachusetts Shires is all kinds of better, but it wasn't a bad horn. There were issues, like the water key just breaking in half, but slide, bell, axial valve, all worked fine. I haven't played a pBone, but the idea wears on me.
I brought an allora. I have to admit I love it, but don't consider a trombone. It's the sound I want when I use a mute. Like using a mute the tuning is different. The slide takes more thought, but it's not great. I like it. Won't replace my trombone. But as a player that uses a microphone anyway, it's fine.
Bought one and I love it. I used the Yamaha lube on the metal part at the end of the inner tube and been using it for a month. It's sliding pretty smoothy down to the 5th position, It's bit more grippy on the low notes but I don't play them as often so it might have to do with that part not being broken in enough, I dunno. No one has complained about the sound sounding too plastic yet. It's my first trombone so I don't have the reference of playing a brass one but so far so good. I will try a metallic mouth piece next week see if that changes anything ... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Few years ago got a second hand pBone for street band playing, I also had the misfortune of buying a cheap new “stenberg” or something, both cost $120AUD the slide on the Chinese one was the worst ever, go the plastic, or get a used student one with decent slide, but I did that too, King tempo 306,bell cracked when practicing!
I preferred the fuller, soft sound of the plastic one. I have a plastic trumpet and I never play it. I don't know exactly why. Perhaps because it feels "alive". It has a certain rounded color and that's it. It's not that it's ugly though.
Love the comparison videos. Had to admit I laughed when, the moment you dropped the tromba, UA-cam launched into a "Testosterone" advertisement. Unintended comedy?
i can hear a little bit of stuffiness with the plastic, but that's really just a taste thing - its not very significant of a difference. the plastic is surprisingly resonant. what really surprised me were how good plastic trumpets and tubas sound. i dont think theyre an even trade on sound, but a great tradeoff for applications like you're talking about
I wish I had come to the first day of band much earlier. I would have picked either the trumpet or trombone. Instead, I was stuck with a snare drum which I was very displeased with. Though having the entire freshmen class forced into band didn't do much for motivation either.
You sound more advanced on the plastic because it sounds more in tune and any harsh articulations are washed away. You should consider using that plastic bell with a decent metal slide and a plastic mouthpiece. At least that's what I'm considering. Using the plastic slide around kids. Using the plastic bell when using a clip on microphone.
I never really understood the appeal of “student level” instruments, specifically brass. I bought a getzen tone balanced super deluxe cornet from the late 50s/early 60s for less than most starter instruments go for (about 100$). It’s a solid instrument, in quite good shape. Plastic instruments, however, are totally different, because they behave differently in lower temperatures. I totally get having one of those
To me, the metal trombone sounds a little better, although not much. I think I'd go for a good name used 'bone. In fact I just ordered a Buescher Aristocrat. Probably a late model Selmer. I'll know more when it arrives. I looked on Amazon and found an ABS trombone with carbon fiber slide material and an F attachment for US$200. Might not be a bad toy if I were looking for something new and a little hard to kill. By the way, I've seen the unique qualities of a green clarinet. What special abilities does a black trombone give you?
While there can be no doubt that the metal trombone is of little no quality the trigger would probably work if you applied valve oil to it . I personally recommend blue juice.
I mean, I'm a student brass instrumentalist (currently playing trombone), and I don't mind a noisy slide. I've only had used instruments, so I've had to get used to it.
I play mainly guitars and keys, but am looking to delve into the brass world - after a little playing around I find I'm much more comfortable with producing a sound on a trombone than a trumpet, but still am not good at all - would you recommend this or something similar as something to play around with?
Out of curiosity, is it okay to place horns bell-down like the ones on the table behind you? I've always been trained and told to never do it because it can bend the bell back, and even seen the evidence in many horns (unless there's another cause I'm unaware of).
Northernfist go ahead and place it bell down just be easy on hard floors. Luckily I always have a piece of carpet around me to place my trumpet bell down. ;)
The problem of placing the instrument down like that is that the center of balance is pretty high up, so a small push can make the thing fall and that's where you'll end up damaging it. It's always better to either get the bell a set of legs to help the trumpet not fall if hit or lay it flat so the mouthpiece isn't put to stress. You never know when Murphy's law is gonna hit you, don't take a risk that you can't afford
I picked up the tiger the valve sticks easy and the spring on the spit valve is strong and the plastic is cheap so my spit valve has snapped off 2x. The glue on the bell is cheap and came undone. I just stick with the pbone. The only plus is it is a large bore.
On the jiggs brand p-bone, there is a warning about use in weather and certain temperatures (reasonably above or below room temperature) saying it could crack under those conditions. I would not take that plastic bone Christmas Caroling
Whats the name of the song he plays with both the plastic and normal trombone starting at 8:50 ? The song sounds really good but he doesn't say the name :(
Would you recommend this (or if not this brand, any other brand) for someone in the high school marching band? Is it worth it? Are the trombones that are held together by friction a large risk in such an environment? If so, are there any brands that do screw together and are _they_ worth it?
So I play trombone for my middle school concert band and when I first heard of a plastic trombone I was like eeww it probably sounds like shite but then I heard it and I said it doesn’t sound as bad as I thought but the only reason I’d buy this is because I would be joining a marching band so I wouldn’t have to worry about killing my beautiful brass trombone if I dropped it or the slide fell so I’d buy it but only for marching band or traveling
There's hardly any chinese "brands". 90% of chinese of these "brands" are just companies that all get the same instruments from the same factories and just stamp their logo on. Examples of these companies, which have varying degrees of quality control: Wessex, Tuba Exchange, Schiller, JinBao, Jim Laabs, M&M, and many others.
That rule is a bit too general to be good. IMO the main problem with chinese instruments is quality control, or rather the lack thereof. They just throw everything on the market that rolls out of their line. (Or IF there is a level of quality that justifies throwing something into the bin, I don't know how low that would be) So IF you have decent return conditions (i.e. free) and the ability to do that quality control yourself, you can make a good deal. There are in fact instrument makers that work with this fact by no longer building their own instruments and instead providing quality controlled/improved chinese instruments, albeit at a substantial markup, easily 100% or more.
My father was a superb trombonist. At his funeral last winter, his casket was accompanied out of the chapel by The Acrobat, played live by a quartet holding back their tears. The resultant bum notes on this difficult piece were entirely appropriate and everyone understood.
My sister and I decided it should be this piece accompanying him; it was on his music stand, as the last thing he practiced.
Beautiful story! May your fathers soul Rest In Peace!
That’s legendary
My condolences
So sorry for your loss
@@jaywallker4552 Thanks Jay and everyone else who has expressed their condolences. We like to think our father is still playing in the Hereafter :)
Thanos trombone
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YASS QWEEN!
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Thinking about it, the plastic instruments would also be amazing for high school marching band, especially if you get them in colors to match the school's own colors. Plus in cold parades (Christmas/New year's in North America) the plastic mouthpiece wouldn't freeze to the lips like my 6 1/2 AL did.
Yeah, that's an excellent point. I hate little more during a marching show than when the mouthpiece freezes to your face. I would also think that the tuning on the plastic trombone would be more consistent in varying temperatures.
They’d be good for trombone suicides
@@Chatroom64 I did field drills in HS and for some reason it never froze to my face, even in winter. When it's cold, I generally keep a brass mouthpiece in my pants pocket when I'm not playing; nowadays, that's for Tubachristmas, which can be quite cold.
My inner Trombonist screamed when he dropped the plastic trombone although I knew it was just fine.
Javi G Damas I did scream
Javi G Damas
Same.
Whenever I accidentally drop my trombone or hit it against something (even if it just a little tap), I say "oUCH."
Same especially now knowing what happened to his contrabass trombone
it hurts man
I'm a saxophonist and I still cringed
most everyone ive seen playing plastic trombones use standard mouthpieces rather than the plastic trombone, it helps a little bit with the overall airy sound
i can confirm as a proud owner of one of these instruments myself; a metal mouthpiece does help a ton.
Unrelated but about your pfp:
I love it!
If anyone is looking to buy a plastic trombone or trumpet, I highly recommend the pBone/pTrumpet. They are very good quality and produce good sound as long as you use a metal mouthpiece. I have never tried the Tromba brand, but pBone is better than every other plastic instrument I have tested.
I got an orange one, are they out of tune usually or am I doing something wrong?
Hello. I am currently working on something incredible. Something new. Not pBone.. In 1-2 years from now the new model for kids will come out and then move further.
@@hiiexist479 trumpet or trombone?
@@krispyk.1786 I have a trombone but I found I'm pretty sure it was just my embeshoure
I tend to use my plastic trombone if I'm playing outside in the cold, I also use a metal mouthpiece with it. I think it's great for doing performances that don't necessarily require being extremely precise and in tune. Great review!
The P-Bone plastic Trombones are pretty good, my band teacher has one and it's sounds pretty good tune-wise, but you can hear the difference in sound from a normal brass one.
realJAMES I find the sound of the metal t-bone fuller although I see the point of the plastic trombone it does have its good side but it's not good sound wise
Mint in Black you just heard it, pretty similar until you start going mezzo forte, the brass one is much more vibrant while the plastic one still sounds a bit softer
Hi. Hope you are well. I am working on smth completely new.
1-2 years from now, the first unique model will come to production. Hopefully.
6:41 he plays it
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Excellent - I enjoy your prose. Thank -you.
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you need a plastic contrabass trombone
kochi3 lol
That will end up in pieces in the Pacific ocean, it will choke thousands of fish.
@@SK-pw9id @Crunch_boi Lol. Well, if anyone's going to do that, it's got to be a trombonist.
kochi3 he needs a plastic piccolo trombone
kochi3 LMAOO
I have one of these in blue, but its brand is pBone and it looks identical to that one. I only use it for practice so that I don’t have to carry my brass one back and forth to school, and I agree with everything in this video. I will say that theoretically you and all of your friends could get them in different colors and then switch out the pieces and make rainbow instruments!
Thats smart to use a plastic trombone for practice
Chinese or Indian brass instruments: imitations of functional instrument
plastic trombone/trumpet/tuba: viable instruments only limited by the plastic material
very impressed at how the plastic instruments are quite good for their price point. not toy horns at all but weight-saving alternatives to heavier brass and very affordable for a new instrument.
You should do a video on a marching baritone
+BrickLogicStudios YES PLEASE
+Henry Oliver Otts +bricklogicstudios Unfortunately I don't own one :(
+Trent Hamilton May I suggest getting your hands on a contra? Lol
+Trent Hamilton Ravel marching baritones are pretty cheap (cheaper than others at least)
Yeah! :D
You should try out the tiger plastic trombone, it has a proper f attachment, and I have yet to see a real review.
I've been thinking about buying one of those, but I think they might be craptastic
rainyjacktheepic those triggers break though
Try a playlite. They are on gear4music.com for $100
I started out in 4th grade with a Yamaha. Ended up with a Bach Bass trombone. This is a good starter instrument and easy maintenance.
you should try to switch mouthpieces on each of them to see how they sound
JaynaNoodle i did that with mine and it sounded worse than a jacob satorus earrape
yea
Thank you Trent. Great review. My 6 year old daughter picked up a P Bone tonight for the first time, and as a woodwind teacher I'm out of my depth, but my gut instinct tells me any plastic instrument can take a bit of a beating, so it was fantastic to have that confirmed. 👍🏻
Worth noting (and I hope others already have) is that the PBone's slide is carbon fiber, which is why it's sturdy and light enough to be usable.
ALSO: Mine wasn't glued strongly enough between the slide "handle" and the outer slide, so it launched off the end when playing. Bad, right? But fixing it was super-easy: just a dab of glue, and it's been good ever since. Much easier and safer to fix than silver-soldering a regular brasswind (which I've done enough over the years).
The "f attachment" horn looked like a knockoff Conn.
Bobert SamuelBobert it's Chinese, what do you expect?
Bobert SamuelBobert really it’s bach 42bo if it was made by mr crabs
A single light wipe of coconut oil would do wonders for the fluidity and sound of the slide on that plastic trombone. It would be silent and handle a lot better. I was actually quite surprised in how it sounded.
Silicone oil might be better.
But thats from an engineers point of view.
kalloused oil doesn't work well on plastic.
Just make sure it isn’t fractionated coconut oil as it breaks down plastics.
I bought a pBone for my son for beginning band (6th grade) and he just couldn't get it to sound. I had allowed him to take my classic Conn to get started while waiting for the right opportunity to come along. This took about 5 weeks and he had developed a decent sound. Once it arrived, he tried it for several days but, since he started playing on a Conn "real" trombone, he was used to how free a quality instrument plays. After his experience, I really compared them and the pBone felt less resonant and more restrictive. I can make the pBone sound pretty good but, it was too much effort for a beginner student. Add in the less than ideal slide and it was holding him back more than helping. I love the concept of the plastic instruments!! Their greatest strength is they can be abused without concern and are very inexpensive. However, I feel the pBone would be best for students who are a little more seasoned - at least a year or two. They'd be great HS marching band instruments.
the plastic trombone sounds better than my beginner bands trombones also they can't play and we have been playing for about 1 school year
HJ Neel Same for mine, over half can't even play the Bb scale right and we are on our second year
This was the first kind of trombone I've ever played. Nostalgia coming at me
I rocked one of these for a few months when I started learning. Definitely glad to be on a real horn now
Even with the friction noise of the slide, it would probably be good for a junior marching band - especially for the inevitable dropping of the instrument on the parade ground.
I've been learning trombone on a Sam Ash Jean Baptiste pvc bone - if you gently knock down the high spots on the plastic part of the inner slide with say 320 grit wet-dry sandpaper and then hit it with 1000 & 2000 grit while wet and lube & spray it'll be smoother and quieter.
Superb description. I work with 'bone' players who use the plastic one in precisely the same "risky" situations but keep their Olds with a fluted slide, or their KIngs, serious machine for serious and more secure situations.
However, I am also reminded of the old adage that a good musician can make more out of a lousy instrument than a beginner or an impostor can with a $8,000 work of art!
Great Video.. Thank you.
I work in a warehouse with other musicians and considered buying one of these so i dont put my brass horn in harms way. Your review has solidified my decision
Purple plastic trombone was the name of my metal band in high school
I think the pbone has its place in practicing because its so light and comfortable to play. That being said it sounds like a trombone but does not resonate like brass. A cheap $200 student model trombone on amazon sounds better. Wont play better but the brass will resonate like brass. People wont be able to tell if you're practicing on a plastic trombone vs a brass one if you're at home or just a hobbyist.
Very entertaining review of the Plastic and Cheap trombone. I have a Jean Baptiste Plastic trombone. I used sandpaper on the slide to smooth it out. It worked a little. The slide is smoother. But is still is a plastic horn that has no life in the bell. I like the final moment when you flipped it out of your hand.
I played a pbone brand plastic trombone when I started playing the trombone, it served me very well for a couple of years and I managed to get a very decent sound out of it.
Thanks Trent. I trust your opinions on this stuff more than anybody else I know. Am looking to pick up a cheap trom now that I am not regularly playing out so this kind of thing may be perfect
You're more than welcome to have mine. Might have been dropped once or twice though.
Hmm, both trombones sound the same to me. That's very interesting.
Yeah, I could here that a little bit. Also the metal trombone still has that brassy effect when it's played loud.
+Christian Johnson I'm kinda wondering about that because in band my teacher says it a little airy but I'm still good
The brass sounds much nicer
I have a Pbone and Ptrumpet and am quite happy with the sound and quality...even having previously had a Bach Strad trumpet.... I couldn’t afford it at this point in life..... I also have non plastic cheap instruments....flute and clarinet...and they are decent..... Decent affordable options to get into music, especially if you have kids that change their mind (or like me having to play every instrument)
In my estimation, you were able to play the cheap metal one more in tune than the plastic one. I heard similar tuning issues in a review of the plastic Ptrumpet. We're all aware trombone tuning depends on precisely positioning the slide; nonetheless, I've heard tuning issues on both plastics.
I Love all your videos. I find them enjoyable and i appreciate the fact that you make them.
Love your analysis and especially how you explain it. Informative and ENTERTAINING! 😎
As always, Trent - your reviews are both a mine of practical info, AND greatly entertaining, too!
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can confirm these are durable. source: played these at football games in the stands which involves getting lots of love taps and various abuses. Plus applied spray paint for weird patterns for fun and also random stickers as the years had gone on. Now it has been resigned to its fate of resting in its case for a long time possibly forever. However I can't bear to part with the piece of shit XD. has a lot of great memories attached to it and it's absurd war camo and stickers. If you are in a highschool band that plays at football games or anything like that, get a pbone. and then feel free to customize. it sounds decent and wont suffer from your customization, within reason. Should provide a lot of great memories.
I have a blue pbone. It's actually pretty good overall. I usually use it as a spare
I've thought for some time that my moped doesn't make enough noise. I've decided to have someone sitting on the back giving it absolute full screaming volume on a trombone. This will be a simple yet effective answer.
My take: if some parent has a kid who wants to learn the trombone get him/her one of these and if the kid shows promise then spring for a good one.
Yeah you don't want to but a 500 to 1000 dollar instrument that they end up not playing
You should really try a Pbone Trombone, or those series of instruments, my band teacher has some and they are pretty good, I'd love to see a video like this @Trent Hamilton!
I don't even play trombone and when he waved it around like that I cringed so hard
my band teacher has a one of these
møøsen spiel I have one
my band teacher has one too
Impressed...the plastic one actually has somewhat of a characteristic sound
really enjoy Trent's videos. very educational and amusing, as if he's somehow channeling Alfred Hitchcock!
Eternal grinning at the place and context where the word 'slide cream' was used. Also, it seems that the new Tromba Pro Trombones have the entire inner slide made out of brass, in order to address the 'black shavings' issue some people complained about with the first version.
I almost would say that the plastic one sounds better than the metal ("metal") one.
I had one of the Eastman Shires horns, and it played pretty well. My Massachusetts Shires is all kinds of better, but it wasn't a bad horn. There were issues, like the water key just breaking in half, but slide, bell, axial valve, all worked fine. I haven't played a pBone, but the idea wears on me.
Would u recommend buying this for a low budget band?
+Bitch I'm fabulous Absolutely. I think they work much better than low budget brass equivalents.
I brought an allora. I have to admit I love it, but don't consider a trombone. It's the sound I want when I use a mute. Like using a mute the tuning is different. The slide takes more thought, but it's not great. I like it. Won't replace my trombone. But as a player that uses a microphone anyway, it's fine.
Bought one and I love it. I used the Yamaha lube on the metal part at the end of the inner tube and been using it for a month. It's sliding pretty smoothy down to the 5th position, It's bit more grippy on the low notes but I don't play them as often so it might have to do with that part not being broken in enough, I dunno.
No one has complained about the sound sounding too plastic yet. It's my first trombone so I don't have the reference of playing a brass one but so far so good. I will try a metallic mouth piece next week see if that changes anything ... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Few years ago got a second hand pBone for street band playing, I also had the misfortune of buying a cheap new “stenberg” or something, both cost $120AUD the slide on the Chinese one was the worst ever, go the plastic, or get a used student one with decent slide, but I did that too, King tempo 306,bell cracked when practicing!
I preferred the fuller, soft sound of the plastic one. I have a plastic trumpet and I never play it. I don't know exactly why. Perhaps because it feels "alive". It has a certain rounded color and that's it. It's not that it's ugly though.
i love his sarcasm
Im not even that big on instruments, and this is somehow enthralling to me. Well done!
Love the comparison videos. Had to admit I laughed when, the moment you dropped the tromba, UA-cam launched into a "Testosterone" advertisement. Unintended comedy?
i can hear a little bit of stuffiness with the plastic, but that's really just a taste thing - its not very significant of a difference. the plastic is surprisingly resonant. what really surprised me were how good plastic trumpets and tubas sound. i dont think theyre an even trade on sound, but a great tradeoff for applications like you're talking about
I wish I had come to the first day of band much earlier. I would have picked either the trumpet or trombone. Instead, I was stuck with a snare drum which I was very displeased with. Though having the entire freshmen class forced into band didn't do much for motivation either.
You should review the new Tige plastic trombone, it sounds way way waay better than this *thing*. The other tiger instruments are also amazing
You sound more advanced on the plastic because it sounds more in tune and any harsh articulations are washed away. You should consider using that plastic bell with a decent metal slide and a plastic mouthpiece. At least that's what I'm considering. Using the plastic slide around kids. Using the plastic bell when using a clip on microphone.
I never really understood the appeal of “student level” instruments, specifically brass. I bought a getzen tone balanced super deluxe cornet from the late 50s/early 60s for less than most starter instruments go for (about 100$). It’s a solid instrument, in quite good shape. Plastic instruments, however, are totally different, because they behave differently in lower temperatures. I totally get having one of those
I guess I would consider one of those plastic trombone especially if I was in a marching band competition in the middle of a demolition crash derby.
Seeing him drop the trombone gave me ptsd
does anyone know if theres a Trent Hamilton for saxophones?
Does the trombone work as an alarm clock?
You can also use a brass mouthpiece which improves the sound.
I play saxophone....
I remember I went to band camp last year and the director was yelling at the blue trombone for not being able to play
To me, the metal trombone sounds a little better, although not much. I think I'd go for a good name used 'bone.
In fact I just ordered a Buescher Aristocrat. Probably a late model Selmer. I'll know more when it arrives.
I looked on Amazon and found an ABS trombone with carbon fiber slide material and an F attachment for US$200. Might not be a bad toy if I were looking for something new and a little hard to kill.
By the way, I've seen the unique qualities of a green clarinet. What special abilities does a black trombone give you?
Is that a clarinet case in the back?
No, it isn't. My clarinet is currently in a storage unit since I don't play it very often.
Trent Hamilton Oh, then what is it?
Some Aaron Microphone case
Trent Hamilton Oh, OK.
Do the tiger plastic trombone please. It is a plastic f attachment trombone
your videos stop me from my Eb bass practice x
While there can be no doubt that the metal trombone is of little no quality the trigger would probably work if you applied valve oil to it . I personally recommend blue juice.
I mean, I'm a student brass instrumentalist (currently playing trombone), and I don't mind a noisy slide. I've only had used instruments, so I've had to get used to it.
At my school we have a blue and red Pbones and I enjoy playing them
I play mainly guitars and keys, but am looking to delve into the brass world - after a little playing around I find I'm much more comfortable with producing a sound on a trombone than a trumpet, but still am not good at all - would you recommend this or something similar as something to play around with?
Dropped it, he just threw it on the floor... Im in bits on the floor right now... Made my day... Thanks ;)
he plays it at 6:35 just so everyone knows
just talking about dropping a Strad made me cringe much less actually doing it
Thanks Trent! Ive always wondered about thd quality of the chinese knock offs. You should try one of those euphoniums from India next.
Out of curiosity, is it okay to place horns bell-down like the ones on the table behind you? I've always been trained and told to never do it because it can bend the bell back, and even seen the evidence in many horns (unless there's another cause I'm unaware of).
The weight of these instruments is no where near enough to damage the instruments. You'd have to apply significant additional pressure to cause harm.
Trent Hamilton Thanks!
Northernfist go ahead and place it bell down just be easy on hard floors. Luckily I always have a piece of carpet around me to place my trumpet bell down.
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The problem of placing the instrument down like that is that the center of balance is pretty high up, so a small push can make the thing fall and that's where you'll end up damaging it. It's always better to either get the bell a set of legs to help the trumpet not fall if hit or lay it flat so the mouthpiece isn't put to stress. You never know when Murphy's law is gonna hit you, don't take a risk that you can't afford
I picked up the tiger the valve sticks easy and the spring on the spit valve is strong and the plastic is cheap so my spit valve has snapped off 2x. The glue on the bell is cheap and came undone. I just stick with the pbone. The only plus is it is a large bore.
On the jiggs brand p-bone, there is a warning about use in weather and certain temperatures (reasonably above or below room temperature) saying it could crack under those conditions. I would not take that plastic bone Christmas Caroling
It might have been injection molded. Not heat-sealed. Those were probably the injection molding marks from the two molds it was shaped upon.
Heyyyy another Trent!
Whats the name of the song he plays with both the plastic and normal trombone starting at 8:50 ? The song sounds really good but he doesn't say the name :(
The acrobat
Would you recommend this (or if not this brand, any other brand) for someone in the high school marching band? Is it worth it? Are the trombones that are held together by friction a large risk in such an environment? If so, are there any brands that do screw together and are _they_ worth it?
11:52 to 12:37 had me cracking up for a while!
I want one. Where does one buy a purple plastic trombone?
Could you do some reviews on pocket trumpets? I have a Jean Baptiste pocket trumpet that I am actually quite fond of.
So I play trombone for my middle school concert band and when I first heard of a plastic trombone I was like eeww it probably sounds like shite but then I heard it and I said it doesn’t sound as bad as I thought but the only reason I’d buy this is because I would be joining a marching band so I wouldn’t have to worry about killing my beautiful brass trombone if I dropped it or the slide fell so I’d buy it but only for marching band or traveling
@11:48 is it safe to say that's the first drop test you've done?
I've hear rather good reviews of the plastic ptrombones and ptrumpets. Have you looked into those?
At my school we are told to never buy Chinese instruments because the never last
Nate Manning well your school is stupid
+Neon_man909 not really because most of the Chinese brands aren't good and people who are new to band will get a bad instrument without knowing it
There's hardly any chinese "brands". 90% of chinese of these "brands" are just companies that all get the same instruments from the same factories and just stamp their logo on. Examples of these companies, which have varying degrees of quality control: Wessex, Tuba Exchange, Schiller, JinBao, Jim Laabs, M&M, and many others.
That rule is a bit too general to be good.
IMO the main problem with chinese instruments is quality control, or rather the lack thereof. They just throw everything on the market that rolls out of their line. (Or IF there is a level of quality that justifies throwing something into the bin, I don't know how low that would be)
So IF you have decent return conditions (i.e. free) and the ability to do that quality control yourself, you can make a good deal.
There are in fact instrument makers that work with this fact by no longer building their own instruments and instead providing quality controlled/improved chinese instruments, albeit at a substantial markup, easily 100% or more.
well this isn't meant to be an everyday trombone. it's more of a throwaway trombone for rougher circumstances
When you played on the metal one I noticed a difference without looking
So does the plastic trombone need oiled?