They need a DLC category bad. Putting a DLC in GOTY is setting a weird precedent because now people can look back at other past years DLC's and wonder why they weren't added to GOTY and this was.
That’s what was thinking is it starts a slippery slope. Like The Witcher 3’s Blood and Wine. And don’t forget, this does mean a season of Fortnite is eligible
I don't think its such a bad idea to give DLCs their own category. Granted it would give any game with a seasonal model an excuse to say "Our DLCs are free look at generous us" and let them enter or have any MMO slot in their latest expansion. Its strange that the game awards didn't have a DLC category until now I did find out though, that all the way in 2014, they had a Remakes and Remasters category, i wonder why that isn't brought back, surely not because most games today are either old ongoing games or remade/remastered old games right?
Bloodborne Old Hunters, Hollow Knight Godhome, Witcher 3 Blood & Wine, Outer Wilds Echoes of the Eye, Cyberpunk Phantom Liberty, Xenoblade 3 Future Redeeemed. All great DLCs that are now at an awkward spot considering they didn't get nominated before.
Question: Being a DLC doesn't make it a game? So if you're playing Elden Ring = you're playing a game. But the moment you enter the expansion, you're not playing a game anymore. Is it like the border with Canada? You take one step and you're suddenly not in a videogame but in a piece of software like Photoshop?
@serghonest9 No, that's not the point like at all. The reason why people have such an issue with SOTE being nominated for GOTY is because it's an expansion (not a full stand-alone game) of a game that ALREADY WON GOTY 2 years ago
@@GhostMan407 No, it shouldn't. And Rebirth isn't a remake. Why people still say this after years of it being revealed it's actually a sequel to the original FF7 astounds me.
I didn’t play any of the games nominated for best fighting game, but I voted for the MVC collection. I doubt that it deserves it in comparison to one of the other nominees, but it would be so fucking cool for MVC to win a game award after being in limbo for god knows how long
If Metaphor wasn't introduced, FF7 would win hands down. Metaphor, drat! Funny. It would be fantastic if FF7 Rebirth won GOTY, but I only hope it receives some honors like Soundtrack and Game Direction. It's by far my personal favorite.
For me it's between those two that I want to win, and honestly I haven't played either (besides Metaphor's demo). I'd probably want Metaphor to win more, but that could just be me being an Atlus glazer, I don't mind if Rebirth takes the win at all.
Metaphor is really cool and is really artistic. But I don’t think it’s game of the year compared to ff7. Artistically and thematically metaphor is amazing. But ff7 was a well coordinated massive project. The fact that ff7 works so well on the scale that it does should be recognized more.
It okay you not atlus glazer, metaphor is just that good, the story in metaphor is just amazing it an emotional rollercoaster I cried way too much 😭 and I just had so much fun playing it, the most fun I had playing for an rpg this year, I love rebirth but I found it a bit bloated and thankfully metaphor is not as bloated as persona 5. @@beanricorules
@@modell1084 I think FF7R is getting hurt because it came out too early in the year. It isn't like 2022 where Elden Ring just dominated discussion for the entire year, it feels like people generally moved on. The most recent news being about how the game massively underperformed SE's expectations doesn't help either.
@@modell1084 Metaphor deserves to win precisely because of what you already mentioned, GOTY should clearly go to the most creative, well-executed, or unique option. Not whichever one had the most money poured into it. That's also why Balatro got nominated despite being a very minimalist game created on effectively no budget, because it was a unique and sensational experience that nothing else had attempted before. Meanwhile FF7R is a remake of a 25 year old game which is debatably inferior to the original. Get that shit outta here, like it's not a bad game by any means, but I'm honestly not sure if it even deserved a nomination at all
The categories are all messed up. The fact that they don't see the problem with MVC fighting collection, multiverses and Shadow of the erdtree being nominated for things proves how out of touch they are. Really feels like the game awards doesn't understand video games.
The people that play Multiversus still really like it. So if there's a handful of them in the voting body, it makes sense it would still get nominated. Esp considering how few major FG came out this year.
Rivals 2, Under Night In-Birth 2, and Blazing Strike would've been nominated over MVC Fighting Collection, and Multiversus. How do you screw up on a category so simple.
There are so many titles they could have gone with. SF 6, MK 1 (despite it's rocky reception) and GG Strive are also totally up for grabs in place of MVC Collection and Multiversus. It's weird.
its a bad take. shadow of the erdtree is an entire playable chunk of videogame, terry is an individual character that exists within the base games game-space.
@ they can’t really do much. Shadow of the Erdtree is a special case where the dlc acts like an entirely new game. It could have been released as Elden Ring 2 and people wouldn’t have batted an eye. Certain games just have the capacity for higher quality dlc’s than others.
@@mangasinatanaelpanjaitan3048 He was just being sarcastic. He only played Idol Showdown once. He saw the Pekora trailer when he was looking through EVO news on EventHubs, joked about her being his main, and pretty much that's it.
Honestly the new Lords of the Fallen 100% should have been nominated for best post-launch support. It’s received a ton of both content and balance updates, as well as events and even built-in randomisers and stuff.
Are there enough significant DLCs every year to warrant a category for that? You don't want a situation where you have to nominate all of them, or even close to it. I agree that they shouldn't be GOTY nominated regardless.
@@goldsage4722 What are you talking about? UNIclr got nominated a few years ago. Similar thing for Melty. Too bad it was going up against MK11 but this year is another indicator of The Game Awards themselves being quite literally a joke with barely any integrity, especially in the "Best Fighing" category.
I'm just happy Metaphor ReFantazio was nominated for Best Narrative over Dragon Age and Life is Strange. These weeb games usually struggle in that category.
As someone who Dragon Age is one of his favorite franchises, I am so happy that abomination called Veilguard didn't get nominated for GOTY. Well, it got the accessibility pat on the head nomination.
@@-bielle2985 I'd accept if you said it robbed Stellar Blade, or any other actually new game. A DLC filled with new content is better than a remake, regardless of the polish it brings.
Nominations for this year do feel a touch off. Mind you when we get to the show itself, we’ll see where the chips fall, but it is weird that they went as far as they did to bring Elden Ring back into the mix after the year we had. It is like saying we didn’t have enough good games this year, so we had to fill it in with some DLC to meet the minimum. Regardless, I just hope those who do deserve the awards gets them.
I hope Final Fantasy VII Rebirth gets some awards. I don't think it'll win GOTY but it deserves like best RPG and OST. But knowing Geoff Keighley and the gaming industry. It's just gonna be a soulslike sweep yet again. Elden Ring and Black Myth are just gonna sweep everything bc people glaze those games insanely hard Edit: just gonna mention that I also played Black Myth and thought it was great, but I don't think it's GOTY worthy. The combat got old unfortunately
People who didn't play wukong think the game is overglazed. You are probably a final fantasy fan so I'm gonna remind you that no final fantasy has ever won goty 😂😂😂
What do you expect? lol Max is not above biases. I tend to realize that when Max speaks..its very much in a matter of fact type of way like he thinks hes right even if he is wrong. He does good at masking it but it almost comes off as educating you and that goes for interviews, talking to his buddies ect. He does it to his chat all the time especially during fighting games.
Lol bruh. He is not wrong when he talks about Wu-Kong. Nor are you right when you like the game. But if im going to be that guy, yeah he had the exact same experience I had with it.Except I finished the game but my point is that Wu Kong is nothing special. At all. Its an extremely average game, some good stuff in it, but otherwise very forgettable experience. Mid. You'd be surpriseed at how many people also feel this way. Game isn't winning much, sorry to say. And it deserves it. Not trying to be an asshole but yeah, Stellar Blade was way better and even that game isnt that amazing.@@thedurtylemur2282
Cannot stress enough how difficult this series is to binge. It’s absolutely my favorite fiction ever but take your time and do not rush into it because of praise for the second half. It’s fully about the journey
"Knuckles" being nominated for "Best Adaptation" is funny as heck considering how most Sonic fans hated it, while the critics loved it, and shows the biggest divide between the two. For starters, Knuckles (the titular character, mind you) is a SIDE character after like the first two episodes.
I think both audiences would have been happier about Shadow Dark Beginnings being chosen instead. But I doubt TGA cares enough to research a 15 minute animation that has more thought put into it than the Knuckles show. This year honestly felt like Sonic had the most genuine shot at being nominated. Shadow Generations is well made enough to qualify for Best Family nomination.
I agree with Metaphor winning for best narrative, specially because it's a completely original story and Rebirth is incomplete as you mentioned, but i don't think that having an amazing narrative should be sufficient to grant GOTY for any game, it doesn't matter how amazing the narrative may be, the GOTY should be the game that does better when you sum all of it's parts, and in that regard i definetely believe FF7 Rebirth to be the best game to come out this year, it's the most vast and complex, it has high quality graphics and animations, incredible cutscenes, the game has some of the best cutscenes i've ever seen in a triple A game, fantastic dialogue, great level design losing only to Astro and Erdtree, and amazing music, with it's music integrated as a way to develop the characters and story, i'll be pretty disappointed if Rebirth doesn't win any major awards like Direction and/or GOTY, Hamaguchi definetely deserves to win something for his amazing direction
As a Chinese viewer, I've been following Max for many years. I really enjoy the atmosphere he creates on his channel and admire his love and passion for action games. That's why I was eagerly anticipating Max's thoughts on Black Myth: Wukong. Unfortunately, it seems that Max didn't really enjoy the game and didn’t even finish it. Perhaps the Buddhist cultural elements and storytelling are too complex or obscure for Western audiences, which I completely understand. Still, it’s a bit disappointing-I was really hoping to see Max take on Erlang Shen and the Broken Body of Wukong.
There needs to be a Best Expansion category and best Games As A Service category, since Phantom Liberty was put there last year and thats where Erdtree would of been withiut the rule change
I would love for Max and the guys to play Space Marine 2. It’s absolutely perfect for them, plus imagine how hilarious would it be to see them panic as they’re overwhelmed by hundreds of enemies.
Honestly, so long as Rebirth wins best Soundtrack, best VA for Bri, and either Game Direction, Best RPG, or GoTY, I’d be very happy. But if Rebirth doesn’t win anything it got nominated for, I’d be genuinely disappointed
Like…I don’t understand why people are gasing up Stellar Blade. Like don’t get me wrong, it’s has some cool fights and music but everything else that isn’t the combat is extremely mediocre.
"Are people really looking forward to Death Stranding 2" yes, me. It legit became one of my favorite games ever made. I am a so excited for the second one
I just want rebirth to win it so bad man. I’m studying game dev and nobody in my program even knew the game came out this year :/ The game deserves so much more respect imo, best gameplay, music and characters I’ve ever seen in an rpg.
I think it’s because for him, and many of us, Game of The Year shouldn’t be based on popularity, but rather on how good from top down a game is. If the Game Awards were based solely on popularity, Wukong or Endtree would literally sweep all of the categories they were in. Rebirth, Metaphor, and all the others wouldn’t stand a chance. And if Wukong and Shadow end up taking everything they’re nominated for, it would confirm the awards really are nothing but a popularity contest. Wukong is a good game, but to me, I’d put it right next to Stellar Blade. Great game. But nothing earth-shattering that leaves its mark on you
its now the lowest rated game on metacritic to be nominated for goty. Since, the same critic publications are the ones who nominate games for the game awards, it was surprising for him.
I mean to be fair, Shadow of the Erdtree is still a full length game on its own. I don't think Elden Ring should win again either but I understand why it's there.
@@ganymede4030 stop making this stupid argument. It doesn’t work and it never will work. “To be fair” nothing it’s not a stand alone experience stop defending it
Astro Bot, besides being the funnest game of the year, doesn’t actually name any of its guest characters and even includes guests that aren’t on PlayStation anymore. How is it an ad?
Astro Bot music was fun and all, but after hearing it for 15h+ hours, it got really annoying and became a blur. The FF7 Rebirth soundtrack though, I can listen to it 24/7 and it's still amazing.
@@EricHernandez-vx8cv Rebirth OST are garbage most of them are freaking remixs from Nobuo works lmao if anything it should be Stellar blade or Astro and Metaphor
I heard sponsors like IGN, NPR, LA Times are picking what games are the best of the year like the players vote counts for only 10% of the decision. What a joke.
Asking for 4-5 fighting games a year is a high order. They are trying to create interests in this event. They just have to understand some categories are going to be small.
Regarding Multiversus, if I remember correctly, MK11 was nominated for best fighting game for two consecutive years (vanilla in 2019; then ultimate edition in 2020). SFV has been nominated 3 times (vanilla in 2016, Arcade in 18, Champ edition in 2020). I think it would be fairer if there were separate categories for best expansion, best remake, best remaster, best collection, etc; and keep the main categories as best *new* rpg, fighting game, action game, etc. Probably won't happen though.
Helldivers 2 did a complete 360 this year: it came out and was beloved and popular, they patched several nerfs over the subsequent months and the player base got pissed, and then they basically reverted everything and buffed it instead and everyone loves the game again
Most of the playerbase moved on. I don't know what kind of a braniac top dev thought to do nerfs in pve co-op game, instead of buffing underperforming things, but i hope he got replaced/fired
I'd say solid action game, but shouldn't win that instead should multiplayer for those early months when we were all united under freedom's flag until SONY decided to be dicks to PC players and devs showed how ignorant they are. Bruh why the hell is even in the best community support category.
FF7 and Metaphor should win most of these. Elden Ring DLC getting in over Silent Hill 2 or Stellar Blade in the GOTY category is just plain silly. Personally I'd be happy with either FF7 or Metaphor winning GOTY.
tbh I just want FF or Atlus to win GotY once, I have a feeling FF7R2 might win the GotY award considering it's also the most nominated game alongside Astro Bot, but I'd rather Metaphor to win GotY over Astro Bot in case FF7R2 won't win.
I kinda doubt that sparking zero would win, because it was losing player counts due to the game being unbalanced, the game having some flaws and multiple issues, and the game having modders, hackers, and players who play cheap. I think the only way it could make a potential comeback and possibly win GOTY is if bandai put a bunch of patch notes on the game, balance out the things that are broken, and ban some hackers, all this BEFORE the GOTY voting process closes. Otherwise, it's cooked.
They changed it from best fighting game to just best fighting. They deliberately adjusted it so more non strictly classified fighting like games can be nominated. Which I think is fair if they want more budokai smash like games to compete in this category (or steal it)
@@Mori13011 No it is not. It's a DLC. There are no mental gymnastics to play here. By definition it is not okay and it is a disgrace. ER released 2 years ago and already won GOTY. Giving the same game the same award 2 years later is absolutely disgusting. Best DLC? Absolutely. But this is a joke.
I think it could be argued that not giving additional content that required dozens of writers, programmers, composers and actors years of grueling work full credit it deserves is significantly more of a spit in the face of game developers.
No, this year has been perfectly great, it’s just that journalists and critics are blinded by Fromsoft fanboyism and Geoff has no care for actually keeping integrity to the rules of the show
@@gavo7911 It's astonishing how clueless journalists appear to be, considering even a normal gamer can tell the trend and state of video games just by playing a few. And I swear something's wrong if Elden Ring bent the rules of TGA to be a GOTY nominee.
The problem with nominating Marvel Fighting Collection is that it's not just a Game. It's multiple games in one package. Now if they said MVC2 from Marvel Fighting Collection, then sure because you know that game mostly blew up was because of MVC2. If that game came out without it. I don't think it would have blown up as much as it did.
They need a DLC category bad. Putting a DLC in GOTY is setting a weird precedent because now people can look back at other past years DLC's and wonder why they weren't added to GOTY and this was.
That’s what was thinking is it starts a slippery slope. Like The Witcher 3’s Blood and Wine. And don’t forget, this does mean a season of Fortnite is eligible
I don't think its such a bad idea to give DLCs their own category. Granted it would give any game with a seasonal model an excuse to say "Our DLCs are free look at generous us" and let them enter or have any MMO slot in their latest expansion. Its strange that the game awards didn't have a DLC category until now
I did find out though, that all the way in 2014, they had a Remakes and Remasters category, i wonder why that isn't brought back, surely not because most games today are either old ongoing games or remade/remastered old games right?
@@HurkaTheGuard i think a "fan favorite" category would be better
Bloodborne Old Hunters, Hollow Knight Godhome, Witcher 3 Blood & Wine, Outer Wilds Echoes of the Eye, Cyberpunk Phantom Liberty, Xenoblade 3 Future Redeeemed.
All great DLCs that are now at an awkward spot considering they didn't get nominated before.
I was thinking "Best _ DLC" should be its' own shelf.
Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Challenger Pack 4: Terry Bogard should have won Game of the Year 2019.
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Question: Being a DLC doesn't make it a game? So if you're playing Elden Ring = you're playing a game. But the moment you enter the expansion, you're not playing a game anymore. Is it like the border with Canada? You take one step and you're suddenly not in a videogame but in a piece of software like Photoshop?
@serghonest9 No, that's not the point like at all. The reason why people have such an issue with SOTE being nominated for GOTY is because it's an expansion (not a full stand-alone game) of a game that ALREADY WON GOTY 2 years ago
@@ItzSpecter That's not the point > proceeds to make that the point. The category is called "Game of the year" not "Stand-alone game of the year".
@@serghonest9 that's not the issue, the issue is that it's still the same game, that's why it's not eligible for ts
I love the dlc. But it shouldn't be in the game of the year nominees.
Yeah we’ll see
it should, a remake is there and no one is complaining
Remakes and dlc’s should have their own category since we get so many of them nowadays.
@@GhostMan407 a part 2 of a remake from the ground up which is over 100hrs is not a 10hour long dlc for a game 2.5 years old.
@@GhostMan407 No, it shouldn't. And Rebirth isn't a remake. Why people still say this after years of it being revealed it's actually a sequel to the original FF7 astounds me.
Let’s be honest we don’t watch the game awards for the awards. It’s for the trailers
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I'm legit just watching the game awards for SF6 Mai, Tekken 8 DLC and for Sega to finally talk about those games they announced last time.
It's wild that the MVC Collection is a nominee.
I didn’t play any of the games nominated for best fighting game, but I voted for the MVC collection. I doubt that it deserves it in comparison to one of the other nominees, but it would be so fucking cool for MVC to win a game award after being in limbo for god knows how long
i mean a dlc is up for goty, so other dumb stuff can happen too
Still better than Multiversus
@@jinpei05 It was the only 2024 FG that hyped me up
I just love MVC with my heart
Clearly needed something to fill out the spot.
If Metaphor wasn't introduced, FF7 would win hands down. Metaphor, drat! Funny. It would be fantastic if FF7 Rebirth won GOTY, but I only hope it receives some honors like Soundtrack and Game Direction. It's by far my personal favorite.
For me it's between those two that I want to win, and honestly I haven't played either (besides Metaphor's demo). I'd probably want Metaphor to win more, but that could just be me being an Atlus glazer, I don't mind if Rebirth takes the win at all.
Metaphor is really cool and is really artistic. But I don’t think it’s game of the year compared to ff7. Artistically and thematically metaphor is amazing. But ff7 was a well coordinated massive project. The fact that ff7 works so well on the scale that it does should be recognized more.
It okay you not atlus glazer, metaphor is just that good, the story in metaphor is just amazing it an emotional rollercoaster I cried way too much 😭 and I just had so much fun playing it, the most fun I had playing for an rpg this year, I love rebirth but I found it a bit bloated and thankfully metaphor is not as bloated as persona 5. @@beanricorules
@@modell1084 I think FF7R is getting hurt because it came out too early in the year. It isn't like 2022 where Elden Ring just dominated discussion for the entire year, it feels like people generally moved on. The most recent news being about how the game massively underperformed SE's expectations doesn't help either.
@@modell1084 Metaphor deserves to win precisely because of what you already mentioned, GOTY should clearly go to the most creative, well-executed, or unique option. Not whichever one had the most money poured into it. That's also why Balatro got nominated despite being a very minimalist game created on effectively no budget, because it was a unique and sensational experience that nothing else had attempted before. Meanwhile FF7R is a remake of a 25 year old game which is debatably inferior to the original. Get that shit outta here, like it's not a bad game by any means, but I'm honestly not sure if it even deserved a nomination at all
The categories are all messed up. The fact that they don't see the problem with MVC fighting collection, multiverses and Shadow of the erdtree being nominated for things proves how out of touch they are. Really feels like the game awards doesn't understand video games.
Isn't multiversus mid as hell too? Iirc its just wanna be smash. Or am I thinking of the wrong game
@CALAMITY0FHYRULE yeah it's a Platform Fighter like smash.
The people that play Multiversus still really like it. So if there's a handful of them in the voting body, it makes sense it would still get nominated. Esp considering how few major FG came out this year.
@@youngtexas210I still like MultiVersus, and I don’t have a problem with it being nominated as Fortnite’s still nominated.
And Fortnite?
The Arcane disrespect lmao, Ik he didn’t watch it but it’s literally Hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby. Not even close for any other adaptation
Max saying Usada Pekora is like seeing your dad do something you like lmao
Rivals 2, Under Night In-Birth 2, and Blazing Strike would've been nominated over MVC Fighting Collection, and Multiversus.
How do you screw up on a category so simple.
There are so many titles they could have gone with. SF 6, MK 1 (despite it's rocky reception) and GG Strive are also totally up for grabs in place of MVC Collection and Multiversus. It's weird.
It's gonna be so funny hearing the orchestra at the game awards try to play the weird ass ambient music from Balatro.
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I like Rooflemonger's take: if DLC is allowed to win, then Terry in SF6 should be the Best Fighting Game of 2024
Rare Rooflemonger W.
Dumb take but if that's what you roll with...
its a bad take. shadow of the erdtree is an entire playable chunk of videogame, terry is an individual character that exists within the base games game-space.
@@_cripticon8004 makes sense to me. if not terry, then mk1 khaos reigns. what more can fighting games do if dlc is allowed
@ they can’t really do much. Shadow of the Erdtree is a special case where the dlc acts like an entirely new game. It could have been released as Elden Ring 2 and people wouldn’t have batted an eye. Certain games just have the capacity for higher quality dlc’s than others.
Frankly I'm just happy Like a Dragon got to be here.
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Didn't Max main Botan in that one Hololive fighting game? I must've missed the part where he played Pekora extensively
@@mangasinatanaelpanjaitan3048 He was just being sarcastic. He only played Idol Showdown once. He saw the Pekora trailer when he was looking through EVO news on EventHubs, joked about her being his main, and pretty much that's it.
Balatro winning GotY would be like Steely Dan winning all over again.
Disappointing that Space Marine 2 wasn't nominated for Best Family game, honestly.
I dont know if Max knows anything about it ngl. He didnt even look at it in terms of best action
Didn't release on Switch unfortunately, seems to be the main criteria for getting nominated in that category
If you somehow don't know about Balatro yet, stay safely away. That game addiction is Vampire Survivors kinda of level.
I voted rebirth, to me it was just so damn great
Honestly the new Lords of the Fallen 100% should have been nominated for best post-launch support. It’s received a ton of both content and balance updates, as well as events and even built-in randomisers and stuff.
That's nuts to me to see DLC up for GOTY. Sorry but it should have it's own category as "Best DLC".
What other dlc came out this year. I honestly don't know
@@SpatgooberMy only thoughts are Final Fantasy XIV’s Dawntrail. I’m sure more came out but I can’t remember
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Are there enough significant DLCs every year to warrant a category for that? You don't want a situation where you have to nominate all of them, or even close to it.
I agree that they shouldn't be GOTY nominated regardless.
Nine Sols not being nominated for anything is criminal
Multiversus being nominated again instead of UNI is crazy.
Uni? Lmao good one bro
@@goldsage4722 What are you talking about? UNIclr got nominated a few years ago. Similar thing for Melty. Too bad it was going up against MK11 but this year is another indicator of The Game Awards themselves being quite literally a joke with barely any integrity, especially in the "Best Fighing" category.
@Nyagro yeah a few years ago back when people outside of its community actually talked about it. It's a cool game but it's also extremely niche
I'm just happy Metaphor ReFantazio was nominated for Best Narrative over Dragon Age and Life is Strange. These weeb games usually struggle in that category.
As someone who Dragon Age is one of his favorite franchises, I am so happy that abomination called Veilguard didn't get nominated for GOTY.
Well, it got the accessibility pat on the head nomination.
I mean the biggest issue with DA:V was writing so it shouldn't come as a surprise unless you're in an echo chamber I suppose.
Love this game its just medieval persona. ❤
@@D4C_LoveTrain1 Yeah, but there were also a ton of reviewers praising the story so it was a possibility.
A lot of dedicated fans of those games are extremely unhappy with storytelling so it's not reallly surprising.
There just needs to be a category for DLC and expansions. It's so weird to have SOTE be here.
I had to laugh at the part where max said metroid prime 4 has been pre-ordered for 38 years because It fucking felt like that dude lol
I'm sad Slitterhead didn't get a nom for anything. That game was my personal game of the year, and a genuinely fascinating and unique experience
You should check out Mouthwashing as well
Elden ring dlc should not be here
It robbed Silent Hill's place
@@-bielle2985 I'd accept if you said it robbed Stellar Blade, or any other actually new game. A DLC filled with new content is better than a remake, regardless of the polish it brings.
He's really looking down on wukong winning game of the year that's my game
Nominations for this year do feel a touch off. Mind you when we get to the show itself, we’ll see where the chips fall, but it is weird that they went as far as they did to bring Elden Ring back into the mix after the year we had. It is like saying we didn’t have enough good games this year, so we had to fill it in with some DLC to meet the minimum.
Regardless, I just hope those who do deserve the awards gets them.
Man looking back at the action adventure category it’s crazy that the best reviewed Sonic game of all time didn’t get nominated
I hope Final Fantasy VII Rebirth gets some awards. I don't think it'll win GOTY but it deserves like best RPG and OST. But knowing Geoff Keighley and the gaming industry. It's just gonna be a soulslike sweep yet again. Elden Ring and Black Myth are just gonna sweep everything bc people glaze those games insanely hard
Edit: just gonna mention that I also played Black Myth and thought it was great, but I don't think it's GOTY worthy. The combat got old unfortunately
I dont think it should get the best rpg, but definitely a trophy
Soulslike are equally the best and worst thing to ever happen to video games tbh
Black Myth's award count will be directly proportional to how much Geoff wants to glaze and court the Chinese audience.
People who didn't play wukong think the game is overglazed. You are probably a final fantasy fan so I'm gonna remind you that no final fantasy has ever won goty 😂😂😂
@@wardy4903yall probably think the journos rated black myth objectively and not politically at all 😂😂😂
It's obvious who takes the Game Awards. The advertisements! Advertisements won the game awards! The runner up ? Game Awards host Geoff Keighley
Damn max ignoring how good wukong was is a sin 😂
What do you expect? lol Max is not above biases. I tend to realize that when Max speaks..its very much in a matter of fact type of way like he thinks hes right even if he is wrong. He does good at masking it but it almost comes off as educating you and that goes for interviews, talking to his buddies ect. He does it to his chat all the time especially during fighting games.
Lol bruh. He is not wrong when he talks about Wu-Kong. Nor are you right when you like the game. But if im going to be that guy, yeah he had the exact same experience I had with it.Except I finished the game but my point is that Wu Kong is nothing special. At all. Its an extremely average game, some good stuff in it, but otherwise very forgettable experience. Mid. You'd be surpriseed at how many people also feel this way. Game isn't winning much, sorry to say. And it deserves it. Not trying to be an asshole but yeah, Stellar Blade was way better and even that game isnt that amazing.@@thedurtylemur2282
Cannot stress enough how difficult this series is to binge. It’s absolutely my favorite fiction ever but take your time and do not rush into it because of praise for the second half. It’s fully about the journey
1:31 - Tell me you haven't seen Arcane without telling me you haven't seen Arcane...
... oh, wait.
Forgot you existed.
It's not even a contest
Fallouts great, but arcanes just masterful
Tell me you like arcane with out telling me you like arcane
He's definitely talked about Arcane S1 before
"Knuckles" being nominated for "Best Adaptation" is funny as heck considering how most Sonic fans hated it, while the critics loved it, and shows the biggest divide between the two. For starters, Knuckles (the titular character, mind you) is a SIDE character after like the first two episodes.
I think both audiences would have been happier about Shadow Dark Beginnings being chosen instead.
But I doubt TGA cares enough to research a 15 minute animation that has more thought put into it than the Knuckles show. This year honestly felt like Sonic had the most genuine shot at being nominated. Shadow Generations is well made enough to qualify for Best Family nomination.
FF7R has to win best music. It's too good!
Part of me feels like Geoff makes these weird decisions just so people talk about The Game Awards.
I agree with Metaphor winning for best narrative, specially because it's a completely original story and Rebirth is incomplete as you mentioned, but i don't think that having an amazing narrative should be sufficient to grant GOTY for any game, it doesn't matter how amazing the narrative may be, the GOTY should be the game that does better when you sum all of it's parts, and in that regard i definetely believe FF7 Rebirth to be the best game to come out this year, it's the most vast and complex, it has high quality graphics and animations, incredible cutscenes, the game has some of the best cutscenes i've ever seen in a triple A game, fantastic dialogue, great level design losing only to Astro and Erdtree, and amazing music, with it's music integrated as a way to develop the characters and story, i'll be pretty disappointed if Rebirth doesn't win any major awards like Direction and/or GOTY, Hamaguchi definetely deserves to win something for his amazing direction
Rebirth is a game of moments. The story is very thin. It's a game that's mostly about it's characters.
Wukong should definitely win something
12:00 I watched my partner play Rebirth and holy bawls. The music goes so hard in every part of that game.
Yeah but it was written in the 90s
@@ooooswainStop being dumb
@@ooooswainnah remake and rebirth had all them OG fans pissed just because it's not following the OG writing
Go all out Little Stamp 🥰
welcome to final fantasy
As a Chinese viewer, I've been following Max for many years. I really enjoy the atmosphere he creates on his channel and admire his love and passion for action games. That's why I was eagerly anticipating Max's thoughts on Black Myth: Wukong. Unfortunately, it seems that Max didn't really enjoy the game and didn’t even finish it. Perhaps the Buddhist cultural elements and storytelling are too complex or obscure for Western audiences, which I completely understand. Still, it’s a bit disappointing-I was really hoping to see Max take on Erlang Shen and the Broken Body of Wukong.
There needs to be a Best Expansion category and best Games As A Service category, since Phantom Liberty was put there last year and thats where Erdtree would of been withiut the rule change
i don't even watch the game awards. I just wait for the trailers to drop lol.
I would love for Max and the guys to play Space Marine 2. It’s absolutely perfect for them, plus imagine how hilarious would it be to see them panic as they’re overwhelmed by hundreds of enemies.
I never take Game Awards seriously, but now I really dont take it seriously
Honestly, so long as Rebirth wins best Soundtrack, best VA for Bri, and either Game Direction, Best RPG, or GoTY, I’d be very happy.
But if Rebirth doesn’t win anything it got nominated for, I’d be genuinely disappointed
a lot of WuKong shade being thrown around. Now I hope Multiverses wins
Like…I don’t understand why people are gasing up Stellar Blade. Like don’t get me wrong, it’s has some cool fights and music but everything else that isn’t the combat is extremely mediocre.
Just people trying to justify their virgin behavior
Gooners
@@yamomspotatosalad818 I know that’s the real reason, but I’m at least trying give an olive branch to them.
So, your subjective feelings on stellar blade means everyone who likes it is wrong?
Just blatantly ignore how the media dragged the game for no reason and blame Jon existent pervs
The fact that A Sucker For Love: A Date To Die For isn't on here is a crime beyond humanity
Multiversus being nominated is absurd.
If Elden ring wins people will riot.
No shit, it doesn't deserve it
@@urm0m69Astro ring sweep
It’s a video game award show. Chill.
It probably will win because TGA loves FromSoftware
This is exactly why I want it to win
Because I know you cowards won’t be doing shit
I don't care, I just like Wukong！！
*Maninfesting rebirth win*
I think anyone who finished Wukong would choose it as the game of year, it's a masterpiece
Manifesting a Metaphor win
I think it has a good chance to sweep a few awards
@@DeadlyBeast205Best OST for sure
@@UGXZ lol no
@@UGXZ I don't know man, we're fighting some goddamn titans in that category.
Easily my GOTY
More like 'Who takes the game awards seriously?'
"Are people really looking forward to Death Stranding 2" yes, me. It legit became one of my favorite games ever made. I am a so excited for the second one
The same people who told you to speak well of PS5 Pro-blems... Sony
I just want rebirth to win it so bad man. I’m studying game dev and nobody in my program even knew the game came out this year :/ The game deserves so much more respect imo, best gameplay, music and characters I’ve ever seen in an rpg.
Yeah it’s the craziest thing. It’s so good and no one knows about it?
Definitely not the best characters lol
@@SamuelSabharwal I mean... not everyone knows about everything y'know people aren't all chronicly online 😭
Remakes don't deserve respect unless they actually improve upon the original which rebirth does not. OG ff7 is still superior.
@@ooooswainI like action combat better than turn based, so for me, rebirth allows me to enjoy this great story for the first time. :)
Rivals 2 not being there is an absolute crime
I’m disappointed Lethal Company wasn’t nominated for Best Audio Design, for half of 2024 I’ve been seeing videos of Lethal Company
While I def agree about the audio quality, the game released in 2023.
A DLC being part of it has cemented the fact that it’s super rigged, I already didn’t think it was legit, now I’m sure.
00:56
I’ve never been more insulted by a question this perfectly valid before.
If DLC can be nominated, Terry for SF6 should win GOTY
Also it's wild that Sonic X Shadow didn't get a nomination
I’m surprised he didn’t expect Wukong to be nominated for game of the year considering it’s immense popularity 🤷♂️
I think it’s because for him, and many of us, Game of The Year shouldn’t be based on popularity, but rather on how good from top down a game is.
If the Game Awards were based solely on popularity, Wukong or Endtree would literally sweep all of the categories they were in. Rebirth, Metaphor, and all the others wouldn’t stand a chance.
And if Wukong and Shadow end up taking everything they’re nominated for, it would confirm the awards really are nothing but a popularity contest.
Wukong is a good game, but to me, I’d put it right next to Stellar Blade. Great game. But nothing earth-shattering that leaves its mark on you
@@dr.edwardrichtofen365Yea but for most people Black myth wukong was Earth-shattering
its now the lowest rated game on metacritic to be nominated for goty. Since, the same critic publications are the ones who nominate games for the game awards, it was surprising for him.
@@dr.edwardrichtofen365 yup and wukong was the best game this year. Only people who didn't play it to the end think wukong is not goty
@@royaltygaming2 Was it? Wasn't it just 200 million Chinese players massively bloating its reputation?
I dont know whats more crazy, a DLC for game of the year or a Playstation AD being the most nominated game
I mean to be fair, Shadow of the Erdtree is still a full length game on its own. I don't think Elden Ring should win again either but I understand why it's there.
Its not an ad tho its a genuine game.
@@ganymede4030it’s still just more Elden ring, even fans have admitted this.
@@ganymede4030 stop making this stupid argument. It doesn’t work and it never will work. “To be fair” nothing it’s not a stand alone experience stop defending it
Astro Bot, besides being the funnest game of the year, doesn’t actually name any of its guest characters and even includes guests that aren’t on PlayStation anymore.
How is it an ad?
Wukong doesn’t belong in GOTY? Now SiR!
To anyone who has played Astro Bot with music on, you and I both know that game should take best score lol
Bro it's going up against the sheer quality of Rebirth at EVERY turn and the Nier Composer for Stellar Blade.
Really good original songs that are catchy, I agree.
Astro Bot music was fun and all, but after hearing it for 15h+ hours, it got really annoying and became a blur. The FF7 Rebirth soundtrack though, I can listen to it 24/7 and it's still amazing.
@@EricHernandez-vx8cv Rebirth OST are garbage most of them are freaking remixs from Nobuo works lmao if anything it should be Stellar blade or Astro and Metaphor
Less who takes the Game awards and more like who takes the piss lol
I heard sponsors like IGN, NPR, LA Times are picking what games are the best of the year like the players vote counts for only 10% of the decision. What a joke.
Metaphor GOTY nomination is enough to make me happy
Can we bully Max into watching Arcane?
Why do you want him to watch mid?
I feel like i remember max saying that he watched arcane before
@@AccelSternritterL take.
Don't bully someone into watching something that will only make them hate it
The nominee selection gets stupider every year.
Watch FF7 part 3 get nominated for best Shooter.
@6:13 Heh--then you didn't play it, dood, which is precisely the reason. The new Dragon Age ain't up there because it sucks. 😝
Main stream opinion so bland
@@DjPon9173 More than my opinion, brother, it's the truth--unless you got a better explanation... 😏
Asking for 4-5 fighting games a year is a high order. They are trying to create interests in this event. They just have to understand some categories are going to be small.
Good Video Max.
DLC being Nominated in GOTY makes me think that is Winning and as good as it is, DLC shouldn't be anywhere near GOTY.
The game awards lost some credibility for me after seeing that pathetic industry judging jury
Max is blown away that the recent Dragon Age wasn't nominated for Best RPG? Oh, you sweet, summer child...
"they still make VR games?"
As a VR enthusiast that hurts. But also VR has hit a massive creative wall...
Max Dood: Usada Pekora is my oshi
....probably.
Regarding Multiversus, if I remember correctly, MK11 was nominated for best fighting game for two consecutive years (vanilla in 2019; then ultimate edition in 2020). SFV has been nominated 3 times (vanilla in 2016, Arcade in 18, Champ edition in 2020). I think it would be fairer if there were separate categories for best expansion, best remake, best remaster, best collection, etc; and keep the main categories as best *new* rpg, fighting game, action game, etc. Probably won't happen though.
Helldivers 2 did a complete 360 this year: it came out and was beloved and popular, they patched several nerfs over the subsequent months and the player base got pissed, and then they basically reverted everything and buffed it instead and everyone loves the game again
Devs are trash
Most of the playerbase moved on. I don't know what kind of a braniac top dev thought to do nerfs in pve co-op game, instead of buffing underperforming things, but i hope he got replaced/fired
I'd say solid action game, but shouldn't win that instead should multiplayer for those early months when we were all united under freedom's flag until SONY decided to be dicks to PC players and devs showed how ignorant they are. Bruh why the hell is even in the best community support category.
1:30 thats actually crazy
FF7 and Metaphor should win most of these. Elden Ring DLC getting in over Silent Hill 2 or Stellar Blade in the GOTY category is just plain silly. Personally I'd be happy with either FF7 or Metaphor winning GOTY.
WHO TAKES THE GAME AWARDS SERIOUSLY?*
fixed the title
Surprised there is not a "Best Punching Game" category.
I'd love to hear their logic about some of the decisions they're making this year. I'm the absence of explanation... it's because of money.
Hey Max, you missed a word out of your title.
"Seriously" "Who Takes The Game Awards Seriously?"
My Favorite Nominee Was Slacker Cats Regardless of not being In the running or a Video Game but that was funny to me though
Metaphore win it all for me
I look forward to this video every year.
tbh I just want FF or Atlus to win GotY once, I have a feeling FF7R2 might win the GotY award considering it's also the most nominated game alongside Astro Bot, but I'd rather Metaphor to win GotY over Astro Bot in case FF7R2 won't win.
I'm a huge MultiVersus fan, and I think it is beyond stupid that it is nominated again. (TGA not making sense? WUUUUUUT?).
I hope RE9 gets announced and that DragonBall Sparking Zero wins
I kinda doubt that sparking zero would win, because it was losing player counts due to the game being unbalanced, the game having some flaws and multiple issues, and the game having modders, hackers, and players who play cheap. I think the only way it could make a potential comeback and possibly win GOTY is if bandai put a bunch of patch notes on the game, balance out the things that are broken, and ban some hackers, all this BEFORE the GOTY voting process closes. Otherwise, it's cooked.
They changed it from best fighting game to just best fighting. They deliberately adjusted it so more non strictly classified fighting like games can be nominated. Which I think is fair if they want more budokai smash like games to compete in this category (or steal it)
A DLC being nominated is a disgrace to the industry and a spit in the face to every game developer.
If the dlcs about the size of a game it's fair game and if people could put out better games it wouldn't be hard to beat a dlc with an entire game
@@Mori13011 No it is not. It's a DLC. There are no mental gymnastics to play here. By definition it is not okay and it is a disgrace. ER released 2 years ago and already won GOTY. Giving the same game the same award 2 years later is absolutely disgusting. Best DLC? Absolutely. But this is a joke.
It's not a disgrace to the industry, settle down lmao . it's just an awards show
Mkay dramatic lol
I think it could be argued that not giving additional content that required dozens of writers, programmers, composers and actors years of grueling work full credit it deserves is significantly more of a spit in the face of game developers.
SotE shouldnt be in goty category and shouldnt win it anyway... it was goot but worse than the base game imo 8/10.
This has definitely not been such a weak year that we have to pad out GOTY with DLC.
Exactly. I mean, Silent Hill 2 is far better than most games released this year yet doesn't get a slot instead of an Elden DLC is a crime
No, this year has been perfectly great, it’s just that journalists and critics are blinded by Fromsoft fanboyism and Geoff has no care for actually keeping integrity to the rules of the show
@@Unit27 Like a Dragon Infinite Wealth
Persona 3 Reload
Space Marine 2
Stellar Blade
SH2 Remake
They got all robbed by a DLC
@@gavo7911 It's astonishing how clueless journalists appear to be, considering even a normal gamer can tell the trend and state of video games just by playing a few. And I swear something's wrong if Elden Ring bent the rules of TGA to be a GOTY nominee.
@@gamemax1049it’s actually insane
The problem with nominating Marvel Fighting Collection is that it's not just a Game. It's multiple games in one package. Now if they said MVC2 from Marvel Fighting Collection, then sure because you know that game mostly blew up was because of MVC2. If that game came out without it. I don't think it would have blown up as much as it did.