I'm literally sitting here crying that someone was able to verbalize everything i can't and haven't been able to for the past many years.. Thank you for this.
I am so grateful for living im Germany. If you get sick, you get paid FULLY for six weeks! And if you are still sick, the health insurance pays you 80% for up to 1,5 Years. This is how you have chances to recover. This should be standard for every country.
Thank you for sharing this. I think it’s true for many people that complete rest is the only way to heal and it’s so tragic that most people can’t do it! Hearing it from you is very validating. Our society is so incredibly shaming about not working! Even with all the knowledge I have about PTSD I still feel ashamed that I don’t work like a “normal” person. I struggled for years to work as much as I could and it just kept getting worse instead of better. What I’ve learned since is that in order to heal the nervous system, you need a baseline of safety. If you continue to be in an environment that is triggering stress responses, you can’t heal, you can only cope. For me that meant not working at all because work itself is a trigger for me. I’m privileged to have family that can support me to do that (for awhile anyway). But everyone deserves the option.
I’m curious, even though the government supports you, is there still a sense of shame about not working? There’s a stereotype about Germans being very exacting about time and work. I’m curious if that is true or is changing.
@@Taratreehugger @Taratreehugger Yeah... the thing is... on the one hand, we have this really great system in Germany (you can be sick for 1.5 years and get paid by the health insurance.) ... on the other hand, Germany has a very strong work ethic. In Germany, work is everything. So it very much depends on your personal social environment. If your social network is more politically left-wing, you are more likely to be accepted if you don't work. My friends and family are very supportive. For me, it's really impossible to work and heal at the same time. Healing from trauma is such a big deal. In my opinion, you should not work for at least 1 or 2 years if you have the opportunity. That's the only way. I think work takes up way too much of our lives anyway. But that's another topic. I've thought so much about the whole system in general and realised that far too much superfluous stuff is worked just to earn money to buy stuff you don't need.
My life in a nutshell. Childhood ptsd + burnout. I'm fried. I can't see beyond it. Everything feels so overwhelming. I can't even post about it without feeling like it's my fault. I've been a people leader for a few years but fell apart and now I attend counselling, exercise, classes... This to keep my mind quiet. They only partially help. Feeling vindicated about this video!
I really resonate with this and my whole life I never could see it for what it was, Thank you for sharing because it’s so much easier when you see other people go through it you feel less crazy for sure!
I have ptsd and burnout. I have terrible physical health. I don't feel shit. I shake like an old man with Parkinson's and im 23. Ive realized this has been caused mostly by shitty jobs emotional abuse and terrible living situations. I am finally in a safe place and working part time so im coming out of the fog so to speak. Its been a long nightmarish process in my mind but i know im on my way
Joshua King in same situation - been a year and was in a really toxic job for 5+ years. Already feel like a different person but definitely a lot of baggage I still carry. Medication helps a lot - thanks for sharing your story.
+Joshua King Yea it is crazy this was a really cool video. I have it from multiple childhood trauma. It's why everything takes so long for me to do, as pressure makes me probably flashback to the time when I had pressure for someone else to take control of my body. I too, was raised in state homes most of my childhood, so they were in total control and nothing was safe, as was not my abusive mother. My astrology matches everything that happened, but I JUST admitted I had PTSD. It was VERY hard. But I'm a logical Aquarian, everything started to click all my ways of hyper-vigilance and super arousal over easy things, I finally started getting, that I never had as a child. The term for "canary in the coal mine" I made for this is.... Musical savants of the trauma world, we see the bad stuff before it happens. It is so traumatic to not know how to survive to pay your bills, when there are so many unfair factions going on. Not everyone is born being able to fall back on inheritance or parents at 58! I have seen comments where people say they went back home to stay with there parents at that age. That lessons the chances of PTSD or burnout for sure. But what about orphans and people with more challenges in life. But it is plain abuse that is going on and I am glad I as an Aquarius, would never think of making up a sink or swim system.
Too many who go home to parent[s], do it out of extreme desperation because of no other solution or help...only to jump from frying pan into fire, Parent[s] badly dysfunctional can't help, and do things that make it worse. Very few can go home to parents or relatives. Imho, dysfunctional Early Childhood Development lousy programming, is where it all starts....that's most often from parent units being made so, too...they can't usually give what they never got. It's the 'gift' that keeps on giving, generation to generation. .
+Roman Fox , It's easy to feel trapped in bad jobs, hard circumstances that keep digging one in deeper into debt, troubles, can't find a way out of [whatever]. But it's also hugely about how we choose to look at whatever the circumstances are. No matter how bad something is, there are other ways to perceive it.. That does NOT mean to keep placing yourself in harm's way to keep the bad situation. But, understanding it differently, helps break the tie it might have on you....which can help you find other possibilities to try, to help yourself. A job, or a family situation, can feel really bleak, and one can feel stuck in it; changing how one perceives it, understanding how it got that way, helps emotionally detach from it, which tends to open up other avenues to try. Most of the time, whoever or whatever is plaguing you, is not doing it to your, personally, but because of other things...you just happen to be closest at hand. You don't have to stay there...you can find other safe ways or places to work, live, and learn to thrive. Please...look inside your heart...what dream did you used to have, that made your heart sing? What did you really want to be, when you were about age 10 or so? Is there even one person who helped you in the past, said a kind word or gave wise guidance, which you valued? Hold onto those memories, and understand that you, too, have something to give....if you are not getting, then try giving? IT seems to work that way with not only money, but time and talents, too....if you have not one, try the other...share of your time, talents or wealth; share your heart, if nothing else, paste a smile on your face when you see someone--anyone. A smile is free; give smiles to others, from your heart....that's the kind of smiles that make your eyes sparkle and crinkle at the corners...those kinds speak to people's hearts....and, will speak to your heart, too. THOSE things are something to hold onto, while working through the garbage/breakdowns, etc. that hit each of us. If I'd given up every time things looked bleak, or each time there was a breakdown [that is, got so bad, one might be huddled in a fetal position in the corner, twiddling a lock of hair and looking catatonic, for instance? yeah...that...or crying uncontrollably, unable to make sense of things...etc.] The thing that helped, was having at least one thing I could hold onto, like a security blanket or lifeline. Take the effort, even if you only have a cardboard box, to take care of your personal space...maintenance: get up, get cleaned up and dressed each day; make the bed, eat something as nutritious as you can....maintenance. Like the old saying "No matter what, chop wood, carry water"...that means, no matter what else might be happening, one still has to do the daily chores that sustain life and protect our bodies.....we each need to learn how to take care of ourselves, on our own, before we can ever expect to be happy with anyone else....this comes under "find how to learn to be happy inside your own skin..otherwise, you will have a hard time being happy with anyone else." Find things to do, like volunteering to help others who are maybe worse off than you, or that contribute to a better community....that takes the mind off one's own problems, and keeps the hands busy doing something productive. Gradually, purposely focus on finding things to be thankful for...even if it's stupid stuff, little stuff...just repeating to oneself how thankful one is for those little things, then bigger things....helps...just really making the effort to feel grateful for whatever It might start out feeling insincere, but it will, with practice, bring real feelings of gratitude, and from that, comes feelings of happiness, just for having a light breeze on one's face, the sunshine, clouds drifting through the sky, a bit of calming music, a scrap of food, or a drink of cool water when thirsty. One can stay in a hole of misery, or one can figure out how to climb up out of that place, and feel the breeze blowing and sun shining. It sure don't feel like it when one is down in a pit of despair, but, as one climbs, it gets better. Once one practices doing these things, it makes it harder to get knocked down into the pits. So, if you are in a dead-end job, or out of work....what can you do? Find something, use it as a stepping stone along your path, to get to where you'd rather be....but you gotta know where you'd rather be, and make good solid plans how to attain that goal...then start doing the small goals, to build towards the big goals. There's lots of advice online, local community colleges, community services...it's all around, but one must determine to find it, and, make effort to do the work to bootstrap oneself up outta the pits we each can fall into. Those are only temporary. IF you keep focusing on "... and don't see any light at the end of the tunnel.", if that's all your brain gets to hear running thru your mind...then you will be unable to see opportunities that might present themselves. Maybe consider how you talk to yourself inside your head...self-talk is very important! Talk nice to yourself, and it makes a difference! Find something nice to say...even if it sounds phony to start. CHALLENGE negative thoughts---most of those things are lies anyway! Ask the negative thoughts to prove they are real...mostly, those cannot..because negative thoughts are how OTHERS taught us about ourselves, and are usually not based in reality. The more you challenge the negative thoughts, and demand those prove their reality, the more those cannot, and the less negative thoughts will take up room in your head. Replace those with positive ones that are reality-based...and practice repeating those, instead. Anyway...my 2 cents. I really hope you find your light...maybe it's been hiding in a corner, or stuffed in a closet...but everyone has a light that needs to shine, including you! It's even possible, depending on circumstances, to shine that light, even flipping burgers or being a cubicle dweller....perspective!
I'm about to turn 25 years old. I worked hard and amazed myself at my accomplishments whilst working. Two years later, I suffered Burnout from my career and resigned, also I was in a car accident in the same month and my partner left me. I am coming to grips with it all and this talk is helping me to process what has happened. Thank you for aiding me in my recovery from PTSD and Burnout. The next two years of recovery will be faced with bravery and sheer will-power.
Sue Rouwkema I am so sorry to hear of the misfortunate events that has happened to you. I can truthfully tell you that it will get better in leaps and bounds! I pray this road to recovery for you is not that you feel you are walking alone. You are stronger than you think honey ❤️
I had to revisit this to relay some awesome news. It’s a year later, I’ve moved from my home country to the US and have been so blessed in my discoveries and my recovery ❤️ it definitely gets better! Invest in your healing, take care of yourselves! Namaste.
@@amiamiko5222 Also I forgot to say, THANK YOU so much for sharing your success story; gives me some hope that there's a light at the end of the tunnel somewhere. Wish me luck~~
Thanks for explaining this. You explained my situation perfectly. It's taken me two years to recover, I just quit work and couldn't do anything. I blamed myself for being lazy, worthless, and a failure. I've had all the physical and mental symptoms you mentioned. I felt so much better after listening to this. I feel vindicated and relief. I'm going to listen to this often. I'll need the reminder that what happened to me is real and not rooted in a character flaw. Thank you so much!
I burned out really slowly over about 3-4 years but when the actual end point happened it was over a couple months and I am still recovering after 2 years. I still cry once in a while. I hate seeing or speaking with my old coworkers it makes me go into overload.
Not surprising that people burn out when they are doing three people's jobs after "down sizing" and "doing more with less" and "re-engineering" for the past 25 years.
I needed to hear this. I experienced burnout exactly 2 years ago....and it has taken me 2 years to recover. I really thought I was taking too long to recover. I was lucky enough to quit my job and be at home to recharge. I am grateful for recovery!
As someone currently recovering from burnout, I can say that what this lady is saying is absolutely true! So whoever thinks they are a failure and it's their own fault: IT'S NOT!
The segment on burnout really makes you think. Work overload being so low on the list makes you realize if your spirits are dying you won't be able to perservere. Cause think about when you 100% believe in something and are focused. You could overwork yourself to extreme amounts and somehow still maintain the will/energy to keep going. Not to sound too new agey, but It's really important to be In a place with good energy and good people.
Yeah. This is likely if using work as a form of 'spiritual bypassing' as some people call it - work as your whole source of meaning instead of responding to your own needs as also meaningful, valid and necessary to survive
This has helped me so much. I have PTSD and have worked so hard for so long. I've been so burned out for a long time. I'm dead on the inside and so hopeless. I'm so shut down and isolate myself. Thank you for this validation and understanding.
Hi, Misty - I'm glad that my TEDx Talk has helped you. Please see my UA-cam channel at Dr. Geri Puleo for more videos on how to identify, avoid, and overcome burnout -- you CAN move out of burnout! All the best, Geri
We have to change our language to change thoughts...You are resting, trusting there is a light at end of tunnel, believing in your bodies ability to heal, and looking out for others who are healing too. And actively resisting anyone trying to put nails in a nonexistent coffin :)
This is precisely why we need more women in positions of power. Men do not and will not protect women. Instead they use our wounding to take advantage of us socially, financially, physically, and even spiritually.
This is exactly how I feel. I’m about to quit my nightmare of a job. I have terrible mood swings constantly and I just don’t care about work at all. They have condensed the work of 5 people into 1 and they ask your opinion on things but don’t care at all what you think, they already made up their mind what they are going to do. It’s so fake. People who have never done your job constantly make changes on how it can be done better. It’s absurd. I can’t believe I’ve wasted this much time there.
I believe you can have burnout due to the many things that can happen to you just in life that keep piling up. At some point something happens that is just too much and you crash, You feel like you are backed into a corner with no energy because you have went down so many paths with no results and no support from the people who were supposed to be there for you. I have had so many unfortunate experiences and am on disabiliy...now. I am way beyond burnout.....
Advice from been there: Disability system is struggling due to such enormous numbers filing for it. Staggering. Trying to foist 'em back at State resources, etc. The process can be just as abusive! MUST put paperwork together carefully; must have Multiple diagnoses; must persist; must get help doing it. Strongly advise seeking advocate to help you through process...someone with current experience. If you end up being denied a few times, it goes in front of disability judge...my experience was that guy was psycho-like in his threats at the end. Virtually all systems try to avoid diagnosing PTSD, and lists of other diagnoses....that is why to have at least three different ones. My judge said: "I cannot award based on any single of your DX's, but because of all three, and how those affect your ability to function, I award your disability"...then spewed threats of fines, jail, etc. retribution, if anyone found that I was faking it. I about lost composure on the spot..I felt wrecked. So, be prepared.
Dr. Geri Puleo spot on! I'm living this nightmare right now on top of CPTSD . I feel mentally bankrupt. Thank you these videos they reinforce my self confidence.
What’s sad is that the audience for this video is individuals suffering from burnout in the workplace. The individuals “in power” or who take part in creating continually stressful work environments don’t have the vision to research this subject. They don’t want to become informed, nor are they aware of the need to.
I have PTSD and now I'm dealing with burnout and it's very similar! I'm in therapy, taking medication, and it's not helping with the burnout. My PTSD was somewhat in remission for years and now I'm right back in it. Waking up screaming, panic attacks, stomach issues, can't sleep or sleep for long periods of time. I need my job to pay for my treatment though so it feels like a vicious cycle. I pay a therapist to tell me to leave my job every week lol.
Multi-disciplinary approach that includes wholistic wellness and FUN is very important to successful healing. It is not covered by health insurances so unless you are part of a VA group with such programs, most people are out of luck. That is why I created the "Wellness Weavers" pilot project concepts. People that get paid to do their jobs are intimidated by a retired volunteer nurse that is now a Certified Humor Professional that may use costumed characters in research and for health edutainment and improv fun. Incorporating simple exercises, like "Brain Gym", or using music that have healing lyrics or calming sounds and then doing cross-body movements are free and been beneficial for some.
Shawn, I am so sorry you have been going trough a lot of heavy times. What worked for me, is first of all understanding that my system, my body and psyche need time to recover (and 1,5 -2 years is realistic minimum). Therapy and meds I think help too, as well as regular phisical activity (30 min walk can already make a change) and having support of other people (family, friends, communities, groups, etc.) but also the f-factor as i call it- the fun factor. making sure you find time to do things which you enjoy - some kind of hobby or activities that fulfill you- whatever it is - is essential part of self care. I hope you find your path out of this. I know you are working hard. Hug.
Great seminar, I'm viewing this 7 years after it was recorded and what occurs to me is how much of what has been labelled burnout in a person, is the social consequence of surviving narcisstic abuse in the workplace. I can imagine many scenarios where good people work too hard, under too much pressure, for too long, without enough support.. But like you said, that's 7th on the list of 10 things. I'm wondering if burnout is corporate speak for "narcissistic abuse syndrome" or cptsd. Good luck to anyone surviving it, it's rough. Believe in yourself. You will heal.
@Elspeth Fougere Very interesting insight - and one that I'm beginning to explore. I'm also wondering if the road to "success" in corporations is really a road map to develop narcissistic tendencies -- which then create inordinate amounts of stress on colleagues and subordinates. Thank you for your insights!
I experience every thing this speaker is talking about. she’s describing my life and I’ve been diagnosed with both cptsd, chronic fatigue, and recently left a long term relationship with a man diagnosed with NPD. I think there is a lot of overlap with burnout, cptsd, and narcissistic abuse for sure!
help. living under narc parents and quit my first semester of university after getting severe burnout. couldnt memorize, concentrate, think straight, sleeping constantly. help help help help help anyone please
This was uploaded 7 years ago but still very relevant to this day. I've been feeling so tired lately despite having lesser workload vs a few months ago, but I couldn't get myself together and be productive like before. There would be days I'd be productive then suddenly relapse, then I'd feel guilty why I was not delivering as before. She made a lot of very good points in this video. Especially on the reasons for burnout not being directly correlated to the amount of workload but more of the leaders and systems around you. Thank you for this! Now I have a better understanding. The very slow recovery is what scared me.
Excellent lecture. The analogy of employee burnout to the canary in the coal mine is very astute. Employees are a resource and, although their work capacity can be increased somewhat via motivation, training, etc., there are limits. Just like when a manufacturer overworks factory equipment, it won't last and ultimately leads to bigger problems for the company, like loss of quality, regulatory violations, lawsuits, and so on.
+Annabells117 Every Capricorn, Aries and Gemini I know, need to hear the factory equipment quote. They think by doing more they achieve more. Many people and children get left at home in the process, they are very easily affected by get ahead more than anyone else marketing ploys, it's no wonder these signs are so cranky. These are the A-types that burn themselves out in the Astro-world. Aquarius Scorpio and Pisces can be, due to pain and tragedy though.
I am on board. With my experience I thought it was depression however my daughter called it when she said PTSD. I walked away from my job and a company that I loved due to a supervisor with too much power. It's hard to own this experience and grow and be stronger but I am determined, even more so now that I'm informed.
i've been burned out for the last 8 years. I've lost my entire 20's and my mental impairments have made sure I wont ever be able to pursue my dreams. I have been suicidal for years. I can't read a book or watch a film, and I never feel like doing anything. I keep eating healthily and prioritising sleep and get out and move and see friends, but as soon as I try to do anything that is about a more long term progress or interest I block and break down in a nervous wreck.
This sounds like me, and the thing that has given me hope recently is understanding it through a polyvagal (or nervous system, somatic) lens. I’m stuck in dorsal vagal shutdown, and every time I try to expand out of it, there is a contraction that feels like a backlash. Check out therapy that works on achieving nervous system regulation. I believe that is my solution.
Thank you i actually jokingly said being burned out in my case feels alot like PTSD or what topics I've randomly come across. Watching this you should hear the clicks in my brain & tears falling, the amazement that you described exactly what I went through and still undergoing. With the right people like my new case manager who understand and this I am more hopefull now. Thank goodness.
I've been with same employer over 17 years. After watching this video, I realized that I have been burnt out over 10 years ago. Not a day goes by that I don't think about retirement and not a day goes by that I don't think about walking out the door. Everyone knows it and I don't care.
I stumbled upon this by accident but it makes so much sense now! I fought with PTSD so many years, won the battle and after some time I went and got a job which I quickly got successful at but in the end I burned out... After a while I noticed that many of the symptoms was similar to my previous PTSD symptoms - although it really didn't make any sense why it flared up again - I UNDERSTAND NOW! THANKS! How is this not common knowledge after 8 years?
Dr. Puleo, I felt so validated listening to your talk. I was a professional engineer for 13 years. I burnt out for many of the problems you described. I got an illness that took 2 years to recover from, and never went back to that career. Almost my entire work experience in that field was negative, and I don't ever want to go back. Thank you for studying this.
Me Too. I felt like this whole video was describing my entire working career. I also got an illness that took 2 years to recover from and never went back to my career of 20 years.
I have ptsd, had burn-out and as an a-type was willing to chase achievements that would have took me into an early death. I am now unemployed, relaxed, happy and always playing with my kid...bliss for now. You only live this life once..
Suffering from burnout right now. Working half days from home. I am leaving the company. Last day is 12/20. I have no job lined up. My significant other is going to support me for a while.
I'm sorry to hear that. 1.Take it seriously - this is literally your life on the line, so don't feel guilty. 2. Be selfish at the same time as being thankful to yourr other half; the 2 can co-exist! 3. Look at Gabor Maté's stuff right here on Y/tube, when you're just BEING not DOING! He wrote a book called 'When the Body Says No'. I think it might help you understand what's happened. Peter Levine's work is also great and there's loads of it here on Y/tube, also. It might also be useful to look in to total release experience (TRE). Again, Y/tube. 4. Spend as much time as you can in the open air, just walking or being still with your planet. 5. Nourish your body well with lots of sleep, good foods and the right supplements. 6. Sorry if you think I'm being nosy/bossy, but I just felt the need to say this to you! Wishing you the very best of luck as you heal. x
I was laying in bed questioning myself about burnout and why I still, after 1.5 year, have so much of unwillingness to work, why some working tasks take me so much time, and that I feel just as I have PTSD because of flashbacks. Few minutes later and this lovely lady explained incredibly well. I even visit traditional Chinese medicine for helping me out, for faster recovery, but it looks like as the recovery is the same as with healing cold. It takes 7 days if you cure it with medication or a week if you let it be.
Absolutely one of the best TED presentations I have watched. Great content, well presented and engagingly delivered. Thank you Dr Puleo for so accurately describing my working career and helping me how to both understand and change it.
Thank you for your kind words, ArtJourneyUK -- glad you enjoyed the content & (hopefully) found some ideas on how to make changes to avoid workplace burnout!
Guerrero_91 turned out not to be my job but the combination of excessive working and working out 4/5 times a week vigourously! My advice if your feeling burnout, be like a tightrope walker, if you drift off to one side then lean towards the other to create balance. Cut down on everything you were doing before signaling any symptoms!
This talk really spoke to me, I'm in the counseling field where a lot of burnout and stress occurs, and it's a hot topic among counselors. I appreciate this research.
My girlfriend is a social worker substance abuse counsler and is burnt-out so bad she dumped me last week :( she just got her masters last spring but about quit her job last week, she said she feels like she is drowning and also she said she feels like she is losing her mind and alcoholics yell at her while she tryst to council them, she wakes up everymorning at 3:00 and can't go back to sleep, some nights she only gets 1 hour of sleep :(
This talk on burnout is such a timely and needed discussion. My greatest lesson learned from this talk? Even when you recognize that you are burned out, it lasts longer than we think. Dr. Puleo's proposed model is ground breaking and must see for organizations...burnout as form of PTSD is an important discussion that needs to happen. Thanks for getting the conversation started, Dr. Puleo!
Geraldine Puleo Thank you for your talk. I burned out senior year of high school. I'm 21, haven't done any college and don't have a job. Where, I pray to God, can I get help? Where they don't write it off in vocational rehab as ADHD? (which I have).
ADHD is the biggest fraud on this planet, next to climate change denial. There is no way to test for ADHD cause it is an invented entity. They only do it to get out of THEIR responsibility to help you.
This is so good! This has validated my feelings, I have reached burnout too many times. I''m only 28, but its good to know how to recognize once you have reached burnout. Balance is the key to everything.
Hi, Nick - I'm so glad that my TEDx Talk helped you identify the warning signs. I also have a video on Burnout Recovery on my UA-cam channel (Dr Geri Puleo) -- this might help you "speed up" the recovery process. Good luck!
wow.... after watching this, I believe this is why I walked off of my job in the middle of my work day and have not returned to work in over a year.... strange I never considered this is the reason that I've also become sort of a shut in also. Thanks for this video, I feel its provided some very useful insight into what might be happeneing with me internally at this time. I hope that becoming aware of this might help put me back into my life again. I used to love my occupation more then any other part of my life. Since leaving I've been considering a career change. Perhaps I should be looking in the direction of professional help instead. I think I might be suffering a life long case of CPTSD not related to work due to a traumatic upbringing, but it may have manifested in this way for me as well as the other chronic symptoms I've always had to deal with. Much appreciation.
Cosmic CareBear it takes a long time to figure out how manage/cope with burnout/ptsd. I started working on a short series of videos addressing this issue from my personal perspective. Hope all is well.
Being recovered from burnout myself, I can testify that Dr. Puleo's statement about the similarities between burnout and pstd are real. The turning point in my recovery process was when my therapist treated me as a PSTD victim. Hopefully others can be as lucky as I was finding the right professionals to help in the healing process.
Don't feel hopeless You have a life to live That's why you were given a life Take as many paths in life that you feel can make you overcome your current misery
I'm glad to see someone actually addressing the issue of "burn out". All I can add, agree with divert psychological... dont think you really recovery to 100%. Type of reverse of being totally competent to not being able to hold a tea spoon. Depletion of energy... and having to really motivate for simple task. Coping with the burn out is working with employers expectation. Sometimes irrelevant because it's an industry. But what is the best resource... taking emotion out of it and using other resource like empathy, practicalities ect. Don't take my heart and soul😆 it works better and I still meet with demand.
Burnout=Adrenal Fatigue=PTSD. Many have trauma in their childhood. All my life I suffered from PTSD because of it. I only recently learned that it's called PTSD.
If you had in childhood it is probably Complex PTSD. Sometimes this is misdiagnosed as Borderline Personality Disorder. It is important to get the right diagnosis, so you can treat the underlying trauma, instead of medicating the symptoms of Borderline which may not even be what a person has.
+fruitfulbliss Check into Pete Walker's book on Complex PTSD from surviving to thriving. I need to get it too, everyone says it's their bible to this condition. The brain has neuro plasticity so it CAN get better.
Me too!! I get help online because I'm trying to divorce an abuser. There should be a livestream from Family Tree Counseling channel in a bit over an hour. If you subscribe you get a notice. I have a new therapist but she doesn't seem to get it. Wow, listening to this I have most of these symptoms. This is geared at job environment, but same for family unit. I even got cancer and one of my kids has adrenal fatigue.
One of the jobs I left, I did not realized how badly I was burned out. I felt like a hamster in a wheel. Six weeks after I quit, I began sobbing uncontrollably. I am getting ready to quit my present job because I am beyond burnout. I realized that I need to do some in depth shadow work to discover why I tolerate it and where my ptsd came from in my childhood. Doing a whole bunch work on myself to move forward and allow my creativity and happiness to come back to me.
Dr. Puleo, i want to thank you for doing this work and sharing this. I have been suffering with this for about 3 1/2 years. This really is a comfort in knowing i'm not the only one. You are amazing!
I have to admit this video touched me thoroughly since I had this Residual or chronic burnout. For more than on e year my life has been terrible and I had to go through things that were very difficult to deal with. It started with anxiety disorder and panic attacks and escalated to depression. And she was right when she said it takes years to overcome burnout . I am still on medications and psychotherapy and hopefully I will recover from it and be normal again.
My burnout happened because I try to help others when I just need to help myself. Thank you for doing this video it's nice to see someone share different ideas on solutions I have a disability and never talked about it for fear of being targeted. I'm a type A it does help to hear others say they also have a tough time getting motivated to get back to work because of Covid burnout. Thank God I'm OK and able to sleep as for withdrawal I'm not like this I like to be involved. This is what their saying about me outbursts thank you for this video I live in Canada I hope this goes viral.. 🙏
thanks for the great info! i burned out at work a couple of weeks ago. i kept pushing through mental, physical, and sleep fatigue until i got to work one day and didn't recognise the people there. i'm trying to rebuild again now.
OMG !! The in fighting from Women at work is a real big Big problem. I hear that women need a character development course and Pass or fail testing otherwise Women working together is Attuned to a butcher shop,
I suffer burn out and I told to my friend that was weird that I feel like I have postraumatic stress, like come back from the war… I believed that was an exaggeration, but right now everything makes sense… I was a professor in a faculty full of corruption and I was very productive, there was so much envy and mediocrity, I couldn’t stand it after 10 years and I quit my job, but I feel so sad and vulnerable… it’s so difficult to overcome this, I feel that I will never be able to trust again and motivate myself… thank you for this…
I burnt out 2 years ago. I hated my toxic boss and how he always pushed me to do more and more and since then I can't find a job because I'm terrified every time I see a new workplace. I hate working with people and now thinking about something I can do on my own or work from home.
I work from home but still burnout ! Because there’s no distinction between work and home! They expect me to be available 24/7 because I work from home
People continue because they dont want to loose their jobs, have mortgages....They put work on top of everything....but then you dont get recognition....appreciation....basically you work hard and only get negative comments on what you do....so the top 10 reasons I can relate to especially the ones she describes....also the self blaming very very familiar....and then at the end of the day....you loose your job....while it is a big blow....leaving a toxic environment isnt a bad thing....at allll....
This is certainly timely for me. Like others here I cannot find a doctor or psychiatrist that is current on this issue. They have pretty much pinned it all on me. In fact, while seeking help I became so discouraged it caused me to further retreat. Our office was so bad that everyone who could retire did. I quit early and now I'm not fit to work anywhere. My memory is functioning at 37% this makes it almost impossible to get any meaningful work. My management even knew I was suffering and turned their back on me.
+Jill McHenry In Astrology we have Pluto in Capricorn right now, Pluto rules death, quite literally. Capricorn rules Corporations, so it can go many ways as you can see. So many people are feeling the underworld tugging at them from there cubicles. But so many facebook and instagram posts to make. Poor kids= more burnout.
I have both burn out and PTSD from working in the Veterinary Field. Once I burned out, I was done, I had to check out from working in Veterinary medicine. Worst feeling ever. What changed in the vet field was when I worked at an animal shelter and spent 8 hours in the euthanasia room euthanizing dangerous animals that were unable to be rehabilitated. All I saw was the terror and emotions in there eyes and I just couldn’t keep doing it. It wasn’t why I became a Registered Veterinary Technician in the first place. I want to eventually go back into the Veterinary field, but I think it will take many many years before I can. Thank you for this video. ❤️
100% my experience. Over 30 years, I've gone from vet tech to groomer and now to very selective petsitting.... It's so hard. I love animals and I really don't have any other skills to make a living.
Dr Geri, this was an astounding insight. I burned out 7 years ago. Noone wanted to understand that I actually had cptsd which took 4 years to figure out. I basically came all this way with practically zero medical support. Psychiatrists throw anti-depressants at me and no one wanted to recognise the PTSD aspect to this. The ADHD aspect has also been ignored. I ended up with rheumatoid arthritis after 4 years. I am finally in a place to heal. I got disability... Not for anything I can point a finger at but rather due to severe short term memory problems. You are the first person to put this all together and even though I am finally healing, it's gratifying to know that I was right and all the Drs were wrong 😁 Thank you 🙏
This was very helpful. Thank you so much. I understand the concept and myself so much better now. I've had burnout for the majority of my life from C-PTSD from an extremely young age. I've noticed my whole family actually deals with burnout. I was getting so much better, SO much better. It only took me 3-4 months to recover (not fully) from a severely traumatic event that happened before I turned 16. Then, six months later, I got severely injured from a car accident and had to live on a recliner for 4-5 months. It's been about 6 months since the car accident.. but today, I am also affected by the severe traumas of my early and mid childhood with flashbacks, night terrors, severe dissociation. Not to mention, I'm most likely dealing with a nervous breakdown again. This is my later "childhood" I'm assuming? I have won the "unhealthiest 17 year old, physically and mentally award" Yay me! Nerve damage (feet, hands, back), bulged discs, circulation problems, hypothyroid, post-concussive syndrome, bulimia...etc. I won! *cough, *cough *BURNOUT. Anyone out there that feels alone, I just want to say that you are strong, you're definitely not alone, and give it time. You're life is craving a break. I highly recommend a healthy diet and even just a LITTLE exercise every now and then. I understand how hard it can be to even eat healthy food when burned out, yet exercise? Is this chick crazy? And reach out for talk therapy, and your compassionate, loving friends. Hell, get a dog you can talk to, but don't do it in public and don't tell anyone I told you to do that. Do some EASY stretching even. I promise you, it will make your day feel even .0001% better. Take care everyone. Hydrate! Laughter cures. MEDITATION I am a 17 year old that knows absolutely nothing, a spherical bastard!
On one hand I'm thankful for my job, on the other hand I feel like I'm in prison. After 10 years I developed MDD (depression) and anxiety on this job. I finally came off the meds, but now the symptoms are creeping back. I need a change and want out of this industry. I don't get paid enough for the stress and responsibilities I deal with daily.
Thank you so much for this video. So, so so soooooo much, everything is what I have gone through. I can't believe I have suffered burnout for over 4 yrs. I'm not star employee but Neurodivers and this pushed me to work even harder so the burn out came from that. It's taken 2yrs to recover and I'm still going through it! I left the company after redundancy and that's what tipped me off the edge. I'm still looking for a job but could not be honest with friends and family that I havnt been looking because I'm scared to go back to that place and I think subconsciously I have formed anxiety from picking a laptop and writing a cover letter. I have left so many roles and industries...I need help with someone that understands this and can help me. I got let go because i was struggling, this is what was said🙏
+Alec Hemy , Ya know that saying about if you aren't part of the solution, you are part of the problem? _TAG, YOU'RE IT_.. Your comment was inappropriate; wreaks of bully mentality, and has absolutely NO place in _any_ discussion, not here or anywhere.
@Alec Hemy Me 2. I'm in PTSD strike 2 , why? I recovered, I was doing so much better when suddenly I was escaping my home cause I had to deal with my brother being abused. This lead me to meet a guy far away, to escape, and he abused me. Threat me with knife. Killed my baby in my stommach. And when all this happened,my friend had killed himself, but I was so controlled so I did never talk to my friend. I found out he had committed suicide, several months later when I gave just escaped my abuser. At this time I had a relative who was taking care of me, I thought til she started trying to control me and stood in my way of recovery and just expected me to smile and go to work she didn't understand how sick I was from all of this. She threw me out cause I continued therapy and refused to do what she said was good for me,cause she was wrong. You think my brain and body just move on from this without PTSD again? You're wrong.
I've been single-handedly caring for a chronically ill spouse for about 6 years now. I believe I'm burned out or have compassion fatigue. I feel so alone since all of my family and friends live thousands of miles away.
My #1 would have to be co-employees. When others only do their kobs halfway and I'm constantly goimg behind them to finish what they started. It drives me crazy! I have a generally good boss and the owner of the company is outstanding! Best guy I've ever worked for.
Thank you for the talk and your research. It gave me a lot of clarity about what I have been goingh trough...and finally someone is not denying that Burn out actually exists ! Bless you.
Thank you for the latest updates on this topic. I have PSTD & burnout, from trying to force myself to push through & keep up.. finally I cannot do that anymore. I have scaled down my work & activities significantly & learning to go slower & be kind with myself. I hope live long enough to make the turnaround & recovery so I can enjoy my life for a change ..
This is a great talk. I'm not sure how it showed up on my feed, but for 6 years (2007-2013) I dealt with one medical emergency after another in my family and took care of my mom as she had ovarian cancer. After that I had a cancer scare (2016) and surgery that left me with a paralyzed vocal cord. And alongside it all, for the last 9 years (2013-2022) I have been working on major projects under intense deadlines and with excessive overtime (like 50%+), with little reward. A couple of years ago I made a plan to move to a mountain town. I currently live in a small apartment and live quite frugally overall to make that dream a reality. We know what real estate has done these last two years, so as a single person I feel I need work twice as hard to make it all happen. For several years my cortisol levels have been sky-high (never coming down in any of the testing I've had done), and created autoimmune issues. And yet, here I am, continuing to work so I can take care of myself when I'm older (I'm in my 40s now). And with Covid an overseas vacation has been put off for the third year in a row. Is this burnout? Does it take longer to get through it the longer you've experienced it?
In my previous role, when I told my boss I am not kipping up witht the workload and am not able to meet all tasks (I was literally working 12-13 hours a day on my 7.5 hours contract in Supply Planning), he said to me 'aren't you able to download some things during the night?'. I was like, you must be joking me. Changed the role and I am not in this unhealthy environment anymore.
Thank you, you have given me a lot to think about. I believe that I hit that wall just last week, after ten years I went from up and coming to trash. I cant sleep, I shake, I want to go to work but the thought of it makes me want to vomit. I am having repeated stress episodes, yesterday I was able to count twenty-one of them. I do not like this.
@@Sirius-ql4rk wow thank you, I forgot that I made this post. Yeah it was rough, two years after I made my original post I was done, I was over my job, just going through the motions, I started looking for another job. I am a teacher, almost became a train driver just to get away. Then I got a job offer at a school 5 hours away, it was a fresh chance for a new start. I took the chance, haven't looked back. She's right it was it took ages to recover, but I did.
its such a dangerous place to be, when you run out of plans in life...and the odds are stacked way against you. People around you dont always see the signs, even if you show them. You could say people are selfish, but they dont realise it.
How I feel working in a hospital setting. Lack of leadership and lack of caring/support. Short staffing and work overload. Such a burnout…And Honestly just like she said, it’s mostly because I feel like nobody cares. Not feeling supported is an awful feeling and is exhausting. Burnout.
this has been such an interesting perspective to hear. I'm from the UK and 5yrs ago had to leave my job due to lack of support and reasonable adjustments agreed by access to work. I had been with that employer for 9yrs before asking for help. I have numerous physical developmental and mental health challenges that meant I could no longer do my job without support. through the support of my local mental health hospital I sought to get myself heard and although I successfully won my tribunal on the grounds of disability discrimination it still haunts me to this day. I have constant nightmares where I wake up sweating and unable to resettle back to sleep. I can't say the managers name as it causes to much upset. I feel like I'm stuck in that time and realised I too have experienced burnt out. when I saw a therapist I was told I do not have PTSD but I think she is mistaken. I try not to think of it as that but in reality I do fit the prescribed symptoms and I hate it. I hate how I've been affected like so but get that this is how my body has allowed itself to cope with the trauma. I can so relate to your video. Well the bits I understood lol. I'd love to meet someone like you in person so I could talk properly about what I've experienced and continue to experience. Sorry for the long message and thanx ❤
Along with having survived domestic violence, my son went in military which threw me in shock especially when he went to Iraq. I ended up living with my 80 year old parents. I avoided men not having been able to cope with emotional stuff since I had to single parent and really have no trust in my judgment since abusive men seem to collect around me. Abuse involves keeping a woman trapped in a situation beyond what she can endure. Noone GETS the whole notion of being a battered woman. Along with this I had a concussion. I have what is termed multiple trauma. Add being over 60. Add being divorced. Add the loss of a friend I hung out with. Add economic deprivation. Add being finally thrown in with people my own age when I don't have the maturity to handle it. Learned helplessness is a fact of being controlled by someone mist of your adult life. That includes my friend who abandoned me.
Wow Barbara I am 36 and I feel just like you - or at least almost just like you - please contact me sometime - I am leaving for a CA family reunion in a few days - and I don't even want to go I am so hopeless. I wish you the best and hope when I get back maybe you and I can brainstorm a little. (Long story short - was tied up and almost killed by a man I was dating - already had depression and anxiety before that - went into downward spiral - lost job - moved up to Northern NH with Grandma - helped her with Trailside Lodge - met a girl - became involved though never with a girl before - she had severe PTSD as I did - hers was from IRAQ - we had 22 sled dogs - I became their mom - we both drank too much due to PTSD - she was abusive - I left - she hung herself in the garage of beautiful farm house we picked out together where we could look at Mount Washington every morning whist sipping our coffee - was a dream destined to fail - and now I can barely live my soul and heart are broken and I have no interest in a damn thing) - that's as short as I can put that - please write back - thank you, Sasha
+Barbara Brennan , +sasha white , please look on youtubes and online for info about Narcissistic Personality Disorder [NPD], and about learning to recognize psychopaths and sociopaths. It really sounds like that info might be very enlightening/helpful for you both. Imho, these kinds are perps of most abuses, AND, set-up their kids to be vulnerable targets for more of it later in their lives; people don't come from stable functional families and get broadsided by abusive partners, usually, they are "groomed" to be vulnerable. Kids grow up only understanding certain behaviors are "normal", because of not knowing any other ways...that programming stays with us, makes us magnets for the perps.
1 out of 4 women have experienced domestic violence sometime in their Life. And they are controlled By our USA, India, Etc cultures To shut up and do not tell.
I left a job I used to love. New manager, something very wrong with him. He targeted people who he perceived as weak, or started spreading false information. The entire department left in fairly rapid succession. He inferred that I was suffering from burnout, after intimidating me to resign. I had physical health issues which were hidden, and rare. I had physical proof in the form of a surgical scar, yet he continued to say I was making it up.
I am 50 and repeated it over 5 times in my life. I recently noticed calcium regulation is not good in my body. I recommend Vitamin K1, K2 and D3 with some multiminerals
I'm in it right now. I've given up and I don't understand the point anymore. I can't even work, I haven't had a job in so long and I actually have to be out of my apartment within 24 hours. Demoralization doesn't only happen at work. Sometimes it happens when you're a stay at home parent. Years of being abused and years of telling myself that I wasn't. I don't know really what the point is anymore. People say it gets better, but it just gets worse again too, doesn't it? It's just always goes back to bad.
It’s sounds like you’re really in the thick of it right now. I hope you have someone in your life who can offer you compassionate support and safety, and then I hope you find a way to get therapy from someone who knows how to help you. Look for a therapist who understands polyvagal theory and developmental trauma.(Kathy Kain, Deb Dana, Stephen Porges, Peter Levine, Irene Lyon). NeuroAffective Relational Model has been revolutionary for me. Most therapies don’t know how to help with nervous system regulation.
I just can‘t believe it but you just have - sadly - described the reality that I have have been seeing for quite some time in my organisation. As much as it is sad, it is also eye-opening. Thank you.
Children with significant disabilities that go undiagnosed can develop this from normal life experiences. It's tragic. Could early burnout be a reason why many children can't even join the work place because of school burnout ?
I was a special needs kid pushed too far, graduated from UCL & am like thats it!! NO MORE turned down a banking job at RBS to open a cafe that didn't make any money and now I just need a long break......
Yeah, that's a parents obligation: to establish and maintain a good connection in relationship with every of their kids. If just one goes unnoticed, (introvert, isolated) - Rainforests can burn down! (let's imagine it this way)
Yeah. I'm autistic and have ADHD and burned out through grad school. First I got burned out from general life stuff (so much task switching, so many things you have to do just to keep your health and to not get into trouble) and then trying to go back to studying after a year when my health was getting better the corona virus started going on and like I already needed help to ease back into studying but now there were a lot of new issues and also not a lot of support in place. Over the time I accumulated so many bad experiences that I just can't study without an emotional toll that makes me super fatigued and dizzy in under an hour.
Great talk. As an employer and an ex burned out employee, I'd recommend employers and employees take note. However,legislative solutions, however well meaning, in an adversarial legal system, will cause far more problems than they'll solve.
If this whole culture can't change from the inside out this symptom will only increase. The corporate world thrives on squeezing everyone dry. It won't change by itself and "legislation" is part of the system we have to change.
LloydieP Did you know the word satan definition is Adversary. Yes, the legal system is literally satanic. You pay Baal (bail) your lord in order for the corporations to prey on your body. Watch my videos and awaken.
13 months ago I was terminated from my toxic workplace. I was descending into burnout, but at the time I didn't know it. I have forgiven all involved in that decision. Maybe it stopped me from a full burnout.
burned out at virtually every job I have had, about to leave my latest so that I can avoid another, a burnout-less workplace in turbo capitolizm might be a myth for millennials, may God be with you all..
I have worked at a homeless shelter now for almost one year. I choose to stick with four days a week 8 hours a day versus five days a week. I do this so I don’t get burned out and I can stay empathetic and have energy. I would rather do this even if I making less money My job is physically and emotionally stressful but so far I’m doing okay with this happy medium
Yes so true, leaving call center after being burnout for years just learning why I’m so depressed and stressed. Also never work in a call center it’s the worst for this!
I'm literally sitting here crying that someone was able to verbalize everything i can't and haven't been able to for the past many years.. Thank you for this.
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I am so grateful for living im Germany. If you get sick, you get paid FULLY for six weeks! And if you are still sick, the health insurance pays you 80% for up to 1,5 Years. This is how you have chances to recover. This should be standard for every country.
Thank you for sharing this. I think it’s true for many people that complete rest is the only way to heal and it’s so tragic that most people can’t do it! Hearing it from you is very validating. Our society is so incredibly shaming about not working!
Even with all the knowledge I have about PTSD I still feel ashamed that I don’t work like a “normal” person. I struggled for years to work as much as I could and it just kept getting worse instead of better. What I’ve learned since is that in order to heal the nervous system, you need a baseline of safety. If you continue to be in an environment that is triggering stress responses, you can’t heal, you can only cope. For me that meant not working at all because work itself is a trigger for me. I’m privileged to have family that can support me to do that (for awhile anyway). But everyone deserves the option.
I’m curious, even though the government supports you, is there still a sense of shame about not working? There’s a stereotype about Germans being very exacting about time and work. I’m curious if that is true or is changing.
@@Taratreehugger @Taratreehugger Yeah... the thing is... on the one hand, we have this really great system in Germany (you can be sick for 1.5 years and get paid by the health insurance.) ... on the other hand, Germany has a very strong work ethic. In Germany, work is everything. So it very much depends on your personal social environment. If your social network is more politically left-wing, you are more likely to be accepted if you don't work. My friends and family are very supportive. For me, it's really impossible to work and heal at the same time. Healing from trauma is such a big deal. In my opinion, you should not work for at least 1 or 2 years if you have the opportunity. That's the only way. I think work takes up way too much of our lives anyway. But that's another topic. I've thought so much about the whole system in general and realised that far too much superfluous stuff is worked just to earn money to buy stuff you don't need.
She forgot to mention co-dependents and people pleasers in that list. These are people who internally feel like it's wrong to say no to others.
THIS
Exactly!!
I fall under people pleaser unfortunately
Agreeable/disagreeable
And adults who’ve experienced childhood trauma are statistically significantly more likely to be Pleasers, sadly. 🥺
My life in a nutshell. Childhood ptsd + burnout. I'm fried. I can't see beyond it. Everything feels so overwhelming. I can't even post about it without feeling like it's my fault. I've been a people leader for a few years but fell apart and now I attend counselling, exercise, classes... This to keep my mind quiet. They only partially help. Feeling vindicated about this video!
Be strong! Success!
I get u...
Meditation is supposed to help quiet the noise... but... it's hard to sit and let the monsters to burn you again. 🤗
I really resonate with this and my whole life I never could see it for what it was, Thank you for sharing because it’s so much easier when you see other people go through it you feel less crazy for sure!
@@Youn6J Makes two of us-sending love and much support. We need to create a support group for this
@@irenahabe2855 Big help
I have ptsd and burnout. I have terrible physical health. I don't feel shit. I shake like an old man with Parkinson's and im 23. Ive realized this has been caused mostly by shitty jobs emotional abuse and terrible living situations. I am finally in a safe place and working part time so im coming out of the fog so to speak. Its been a long nightmarish process in my mind but i know im on my way
Joshua King in same situation - been a year and was in a really toxic job for 5+ years. Already feel like a different person but definitely a lot of baggage I still carry. Medication helps a lot - thanks for sharing your story.
+Joshua King Yea it is crazy this was a really cool video. I have it from multiple childhood trauma. It's why everything takes so long for me to do, as pressure makes me probably flashback to the time when I had pressure for someone else to take control of my body.
I too, was raised in state homes most of my childhood, so they were in total control and nothing was safe, as was not my abusive mother.
My astrology matches everything that happened, but I JUST admitted I had PTSD. It was VERY hard. But I'm a logical Aquarian, everything started to click all my ways of hyper-vigilance and super arousal over easy things, I finally started getting, that I never had as a child.
The term for "canary in the coal mine" I made for this is....
Musical savants of the trauma world, we see the bad stuff before it happens.
It is so traumatic to not know how to survive to pay your bills, when there are so many unfair factions going on. Not everyone is born being able to fall back on inheritance or parents at 58!
I have seen comments where people say they went back home to stay with there parents at that age. That lessons the chances of PTSD or burnout for sure. But what about orphans and people with more challenges in life.
But it is plain abuse that is going on and I am glad I as an Aquarius, would never think of making up a sink or swim system.
Too many who go home to parent[s], do it out of extreme desperation because of no other solution or help...only to jump from frying pan into fire, Parent[s] badly dysfunctional can't help, and do things that make it worse. Very few can go home to parents or relatives. Imho, dysfunctional Early Childhood Development lousy programming, is where it all starts....that's most often from parent units being made so, too...they can't usually give what they never got. It's the 'gift' that keeps on giving, generation to generation. .
Joshua King I'm in my mid 30's and don't see any light at the end of the tunnel.
+Roman Fox , It's easy to feel trapped in bad jobs, hard circumstances that keep digging one in deeper into debt, troubles, can't find a way out of [whatever]. But it's also hugely about how we choose to look at whatever the circumstances are. No matter how bad something is, there are other ways to perceive it.. That does NOT mean to keep placing yourself in harm's way to keep the bad situation. But, understanding it differently, helps break the tie it might have on you....which can help you find other possibilities to try, to help yourself. A job, or a family situation, can feel really bleak, and one can feel stuck in it; changing how one perceives it, understanding how it got that way, helps emotionally detach from it, which tends to open up other avenues to try. Most of the time, whoever or whatever is plaguing you, is not doing it to your, personally, but because of other things...you just happen to be closest at hand. You don't have to stay there...you can find other safe ways or places to work, live, and learn to thrive.
Please...look inside your heart...what dream did you used to have, that made your heart sing? What did you really want to be, when you were about age 10 or so?
Is there even one person who helped you in the past, said a kind word or gave wise guidance, which you valued? Hold onto those memories, and understand that you, too, have something to give....if you are not getting, then try giving? IT seems to work that way with not only money, but time and talents, too....if you have not one, try the other...share of your time, talents or wealth; share your heart, if nothing else, paste a smile on your face when you see someone--anyone. A smile is free; give smiles to others, from your heart....that's the kind of smiles that make your eyes sparkle and crinkle at the corners...those kinds speak to people's hearts....and, will speak to your heart, too.
THOSE things are something to hold onto, while working through the garbage/breakdowns, etc. that hit each of us.
If I'd given up every time things looked bleak, or each time there was a breakdown [that is, got so bad, one might be huddled in a fetal position in the corner, twiddling a lock of hair and looking catatonic, for instance? yeah...that...or crying uncontrollably, unable to make sense of things...etc.]
The thing that helped, was having at least one thing I could hold onto, like a security blanket or lifeline.
Take the effort, even if you only have a cardboard box, to take care of your personal space...maintenance: get up, get cleaned up and dressed each day; make the bed, eat something as nutritious as you can....maintenance.
Like the old saying "No matter what, chop wood, carry water"...that means, no matter what else might be happening, one still has to do the daily chores that sustain life and protect our bodies.....we each need to learn how to take care of ourselves, on our own, before we can ever expect to be happy with anyone else....this comes under "find how to learn to be happy inside your own skin..otherwise, you will have a hard time being happy with anyone else."
Find things to do, like volunteering to help others who are maybe worse off than you, or that contribute to a better community....that takes the mind off one's own problems, and keeps the hands busy doing something productive.
Gradually, purposely focus on finding things to be thankful for...even if it's stupid stuff, little stuff...just repeating to oneself how thankful one is for those little things, then bigger things....helps...just really making the effort to feel grateful for whatever It might start out feeling insincere, but it will, with practice, bring real feelings of gratitude, and from that, comes feelings of happiness, just for having a light breeze on one's face, the sunshine, clouds drifting through the sky, a bit of calming music, a scrap of food, or a drink of cool water when thirsty.
One can stay in a hole of misery, or one can figure out how to climb up out of that place, and feel the breeze blowing and sun shining. It sure don't feel like it when one is down in a pit of despair, but, as one climbs, it gets better. Once one practices doing these things, it makes it harder to get knocked down into the pits.
So, if you are in a dead-end job, or out of work....what can you do? Find something, use it as a stepping stone along your path, to get to where you'd rather be....but you gotta know where you'd rather be, and make good solid plans how to attain that goal...then start doing the small goals, to build towards the big goals.
There's lots of advice online, local community colleges, community services...it's all around, but one must determine to find it, and, make effort to do the work to bootstrap oneself up outta the pits we each can fall into. Those are only temporary.
IF you keep focusing on "... and don't see any light at the end of the tunnel.", if that's all your brain gets to hear running thru your mind...then you will be unable to see opportunities that might present themselves.
Maybe consider how you talk to yourself inside your head...self-talk is very important! Talk nice to yourself, and it makes a difference! Find something nice to say...even if it sounds phony to start.
CHALLENGE negative thoughts---most of those things are lies anyway! Ask the negative thoughts to prove they are real...mostly, those cannot..because negative thoughts are how OTHERS taught us about ourselves, and are usually not based in reality. The more you challenge the negative thoughts, and demand those prove their reality, the more those cannot, and the less negative thoughts will take up room in your head. Replace those with positive ones that are reality-based...and practice repeating those, instead.
Anyway...my 2 cents.
I really hope you find your light...maybe it's been hiding in a corner, or stuffed in a closet...but everyone has a light that needs to shine, including you! It's even possible, depending on circumstances, to shine that light, even flipping burgers or being a cubicle dweller....perspective!
I'm about to turn 25 years old. I worked hard and amazed myself at my accomplishments whilst working. Two years later, I suffered Burnout from my career and resigned, also I was in a car accident in the same month and my partner left me. I am coming to grips with it all and this talk is helping me to process what has happened. Thank you for aiding me in my recovery from PTSD and Burnout. The next two years of recovery will be faced with bravery and sheer will-power.
Sue Rouwkema I am so sorry to hear of the misfortunate events that has happened to you. I can truthfully tell you that it will get better in leaps and bounds! I pray this road to recovery for you is not that you feel you are walking alone. You are stronger than you think honey ❤️
I had to revisit this to relay some awesome news. It’s a year later, I’ve moved from my home country to the US and have been so blessed in my discoveries and my recovery ❤️ it definitely gets better! Invest in your healing, take care of yourselves! Namaste.
@@amiamiko5222 Also I forgot to say, THANK YOU so much for sharing your success story; gives me some hope that there's a light at the end of the tunnel somewhere. Wish me luck~~
@@dremid4456 You've got this. I know you'll push through.
@@amiamiko5222 Omg, you're such a kind soul to respond lightning-fast w/ words of encouragement - thank you again and take care~ ❤️❤️
Thanks for explaining this. You explained my situation perfectly. It's taken me two years to recover, I just quit work and couldn't do anything. I blamed myself for being lazy, worthless, and a failure. I've had all the physical and mental symptoms you mentioned. I felt so much better after listening to this. I feel vindicated and relief. I'm going to listen to this often. I'll need the reminder that what happened to me is real and not rooted in a character flaw. Thank you so much!
Hope you are doing way better than 6 years ago! We are all in this together :)
I burned out really slowly over about 3-4 years but when the actual end point happened it was over a couple months and I am still recovering after 2 years. I still cry once in a while. I hate seeing or speaking with my old coworkers it makes me go into overload.
How are you now?
Not surprising that people burn out when they are doing three people's jobs after "down sizing" and "doing more with less" and "re-engineering" for the past 25 years.
I needed to hear this. I experienced burnout exactly 2 years ago....and it has taken me 2 years to recover. I really thought I was taking too long to recover. I was lucky enough to quit my job and be at home to recharge. I am grateful for recovery!
what kinds of things helped you recover? how do you make time for recovery and still pay the bills😅
As someone currently recovering from burnout, I can say that what this lady is saying is absolutely true! So whoever thinks they are a failure and it's their own fault: IT'S NOT!
How do you recover from burnout this lady speaks nothing of it
The segment on burnout really makes you think. Work overload being so low on the list makes you realize if your spirits are dying you won't be able to perservere. Cause think about when you 100% believe in something and are focused. You could overwork yourself to extreme amounts and somehow still maintain the will/energy to keep going. Not to sound too new agey, but It's really important to be In a place with good energy and good people.
My burnout was triggered by abusive relationships... and bad work environment kept me depressed.
Yeah. This is likely if using work as a form of 'spiritual bypassing' as some people call it - work as your whole source of meaning instead of responding to your own needs as also meaningful, valid and necessary to survive
This has helped me so much. I have PTSD and have worked so hard for so long. I've been so burned out for a long time. I'm dead on the inside and so hopeless. I'm so shut down and isolate myself. Thank you for this validation and understanding.
Hi, Misty - I'm glad that my TEDx Talk has helped you. Please see my UA-cam channel at Dr. Geri Puleo for more videos on how to identify, avoid, and overcome burnout -- you CAN move out of burnout! All the best, Geri
We have to change our language to change thoughts...You are resting, trusting there is a light at end of tunnel, believing in your bodies ability to heal, and looking out for others who are healing too.
And actively resisting anyone trying to put nails in a nonexistent coffin :)
This is precisely why we need more women in positions of power. Men do not and will not protect women. Instead they use our wounding to take advantage of us socially, financially, physically, and even spiritually.
This is exactly how I feel. I’m about to quit my nightmare of a job. I have terrible mood swings constantly and I just don’t care about work at all. They have condensed the work of 5 people into 1 and they ask your opinion on things but don’t care at all what you think, they already made up their mind what they are going to do. It’s so fake. People who have never done your job constantly make changes on how it can be done better. It’s absurd. I can’t believe I’ve wasted this much time there.
I believe you can have burnout due to the many things that can happen to you just in life that keep piling up. At some point something happens that is just too much and you crash, You feel like you are backed into a corner with no energy because you have went down so many paths with no results and no support from the people who were supposed to be there for you. I have had so many unfortunate experiences and am on disabiliy...now.
I am way beyond burnout.....
i relate to every word you've written. thank you very much.
Debbie J. I'm debating on going on disability.
Idania Arroyo Hi Idania, if you need help with that let me know, as I tried for nearly 13 years and finally got mine. Merry Christmas to you.
Advice from been there: Disability system is struggling due to such enormous numbers filing for it. Staggering. Trying to foist 'em back at State resources, etc.
The process can be just as abusive!
MUST put paperwork together carefully; must have Multiple diagnoses; must persist; must get help doing it.
Strongly advise seeking advocate to help you through process...someone with current experience. If you end up being denied a few times, it goes in front of disability judge...my experience was that guy was psycho-like in his threats at the end.
Virtually all systems try to avoid diagnosing PTSD, and lists of other diagnoses....that is why to have at least three different ones. My judge said: "I cannot award based on any single of your DX's, but because of all three, and how those affect your ability to function, I award your disability"...then spewed threats of fines, jail, etc. retribution, if anyone found that I was faking it. I about lost composure on the spot..I felt wrecked.
So, be prepared.
Same. I feel like it's death from a thousand cuts.
I've never had anyone link the two together so perfectly. Brilliant work
I learned more about managing human resources in this one 20 min video than I have all quarter in my current college HR class.
Thank you - glad my video provided you with some insights into bringing the "human" back into "human resources!"
Dr. Geri Puleo spot on! I'm living this nightmare right now on top of CPTSD . I feel mentally bankrupt. Thank you these videos they reinforce my self confidence.
Hi, Lonny -
I'm so glad my videos have helped to reinforce (and build!) your self-confidence in your burnout recovery! Thank you!
This woman is brilliant in her delivery of the subject !
What’s sad is that the audience for this video is individuals suffering from burnout in the workplace. The individuals “in power” or who take part in creating continually stressful work environments don’t have the vision to research this subject. They don’t want to become informed, nor are they aware of the need to.
that is exactly what I was thinking. She lined it all up, but did not give them any resources to fix it.
100%
I have PTSD and now I'm dealing with burnout and it's very similar! I'm in therapy, taking medication, and it's not helping with the burnout. My PTSD was somewhat in remission for years and now I'm right back in it. Waking up screaming, panic attacks, stomach issues, can't sleep or sleep for long periods of time. I need my job to pay for my treatment though so it feels like a vicious cycle. I pay a therapist to tell me to leave my job every week lol.
Multi-disciplinary approach that includes wholistic wellness and FUN is very important to successful healing. It is not covered by health insurances so unless you are part of a VA group with such programs, most people are out of luck.
That is why I created the "Wellness Weavers" pilot project concepts. People that get paid to do their jobs are intimidated by a retired volunteer nurse that is now a Certified Humor Professional that may use costumed characters in research and for health edutainment and improv fun.
Incorporating simple exercises, like "Brain Gym", or using music that have healing lyrics or calming sounds and then doing cross-body movements are free and been beneficial for some.
Shawn, I am so sorry you have been going trough a lot of heavy times.
What worked for me, is first of all understanding that my system, my body and psyche need time to recover (and 1,5 -2 years is realistic minimum). Therapy and meds I think help too, as well as regular phisical activity (30 min walk can already make a change) and having support of other people (family, friends, communities, groups, etc.) but also the f-factor as i call it- the fun factor. making sure you find time to do things which you enjoy - some kind of hobby or activities that fulfill you- whatever it is - is essential part of self care.
I hope you find your path out of this. I know you are working hard. Hug.
Hope you'll do better soon! It does get better...i don't know to what extent, but definitely better than that
Be strong! Burning out is like "leaving a stove on" - you run away because of stress & what's to be good - burns!
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Great seminar, I'm viewing this 7 years after it was recorded and what occurs to me is how much of what has been labelled burnout in a person, is the social consequence of surviving narcisstic abuse in the workplace. I can imagine many scenarios where good people work too hard, under too much pressure, for too long, without enough support.. But like you said, that's 7th on the list of 10 things. I'm wondering if burnout is corporate speak for "narcissistic abuse syndrome" or cptsd. Good luck to anyone surviving it, it's rough. Believe in yourself. You will heal.
@Elspeth Fougere Very interesting insight - and one that I'm beginning to explore. I'm also wondering if the road to "success" in corporations is really a road map to develop narcissistic tendencies -- which then create inordinate amounts of stress on colleagues and subordinates. Thank you for your insights!
I experience every thing this speaker is talking about. she’s describing my life and I’ve been diagnosed with both cptsd, chronic fatigue, and recently left a long term relationship with a man diagnosed with NPD. I think there is a lot of overlap with burnout, cptsd, and narcissistic abuse for sure!
help. living under narc parents and quit my first semester of university after getting severe burnout. couldnt memorize, concentrate, think straight, sleeping constantly. help help help help help anyone please
Do not ever give up or give in again. I applaud your courage!
This was uploaded 7 years ago but still very relevant to this day. I've been feeling so tired lately despite having lesser workload vs a few months ago, but I couldn't get myself together and be productive like before. There would be days I'd be productive then suddenly relapse, then I'd feel guilty why I was not delivering as before. She made a lot of very good points in this video. Especially on the reasons for burnout not being directly correlated to the amount of workload but more of the leaders and systems around you. Thank you for this! Now I have a better understanding. The very slow recovery is what scared me.
Everyone thinks oh yeah I’ve been burnt out. No you haven’t. It’s a TOTAL breakdown . I’ve experienced it and it was HORRIFIC and terrifying.
Me too. Still going through it. It’s awful
Disagree. Manifests in different ways and via different severities.
Excellent lecture. The analogy of employee burnout to the canary in the coal mine is very astute. Employees are a resource and, although their work capacity can be increased somewhat via motivation, training, etc., there are limits. Just like when a manufacturer overworks factory equipment, it won't last and ultimately leads to bigger problems for the company, like loss of quality, regulatory violations, lawsuits, and so on.
+Annabells117 Every Capricorn, Aries and Gemini I know, need to hear the factory equipment quote. They think by doing more they achieve more.
Many people and children get left at home in the process, they are very easily affected by get ahead more than anyone else marketing ploys, it's no wonder these signs are so cranky.
These are the A-types that burn themselves out in the Astro-world.
Aquarius Scorpio and Pisces can be, due to pain and tragedy though.
I am on board. With my experience I thought it was depression however my daughter called it when she said PTSD. I walked away from my job and a company that I loved due to a supervisor with too much power. It's hard to own this experience and grow and be stronger but I am determined, even more so now that I'm informed.
i've been burned out for the last 8 years. I've lost my entire 20's and my mental impairments have made sure I wont ever be able to pursue my dreams. I have been suicidal for years. I can't read a book or watch a film, and I never feel like doing anything. I keep eating healthily and prioritising sleep and get out and move and see friends, but as soon as I try to do anything that is about a more long term progress or interest I block and break down in a nervous wreck.
This sounds like me, and the thing that has given me hope recently is understanding it through a polyvagal (or nervous system, somatic) lens. I’m stuck in dorsal vagal shutdown, and every time I try to expand out of it, there is a contraction that feels like a backlash. Check out therapy that works on achieving nervous system regulation. I believe that is my solution.
Thank you i actually jokingly said being burned out in my case feels alot like PTSD or what topics I've randomly come across. Watching this you should hear the clicks in my brain & tears falling, the amazement that you described exactly what I went through and still undergoing. With the right people like my new case manager who understand and this I am more hopefull now. Thank goodness.
Gigi Reyes I know right!? This video hit the issues right on the nail.
Clicks in brain - familiar. I'm better now too (changed all the places to be).
I've been with same employer over 17 years. After watching this video, I realized that I have been burnt out over 10 years ago. Not a day goes by that I don't think about retirement and not a day goes by that I don't think about walking out the door. Everyone knows it and I don't care.
I stumbled upon this by accident but it makes so much sense now! I fought with PTSD so many years, won the battle and after some time I went and got a job which I quickly got successful at but in the end I burned out... After a while I noticed that many of the symptoms was similar to my previous PTSD symptoms - although it really didn't make any sense why it flared up again - I UNDERSTAND NOW! THANKS! How is this not common knowledge after 8 years?
Dr. Puleo, I felt so validated listening to your talk. I was a professional engineer for 13 years. I burnt out for many of the problems you described. I got an illness that took 2 years to recover from, and never went back to that career. Almost my entire work experience in that field was negative, and I don't ever want to go back. Thank you for studying this.
kristintheartist same here. I’ve started creating videos of burnout to help others and myself to manage and cope living with burnout and PTSD.
Me Too. I felt like this whole video was describing my entire working career. I also got an illness that took 2 years to recover from and never went back to my career of 20 years.
Your speech hit it on the nail for me.
I figured out that burnout was another term for c/ptsd all on my own. Thank you.
I've been burned out for a little over 2 months and she couldn't be more on point. You're an angel Dr. Geri Puleo!
‘You start to avoid activities that promote recall of the event or stressor’
I have ptsd, had burn-out and as an a-type was willing to chase achievements that would have took me into an early death. I am now unemployed, relaxed, happy and always playing with my kid...bliss for now. You only live this life once..
Suffering from burnout right now. Working half days from home. I am leaving the company. Last day is 12/20. I have no job lined up. My significant other is going to support me for a while.
I'm sorry to hear that.
1.Take it seriously - this is literally your life on the line, so don't feel guilty.
2. Be selfish at the same time as being thankful to yourr other half; the 2 can co-exist!
3. Look at Gabor Maté's stuff right here on Y/tube, when you're just BEING not DOING! He wrote a book called 'When the Body Says No'. I think it might help you understand what's happened. Peter Levine's work is also great and there's loads of it here on Y/tube, also.
It might also be useful to look in to total release experience (TRE). Again, Y/tube.
4. Spend as much time as you can in the open air, just walking or being still with your planet.
5. Nourish your body well with lots of sleep, good foods and the right supplements.
6. Sorry if you think I'm being nosy/bossy, but I just felt the need to say this to you!
Wishing you the very best of luck as you heal. x
I was laying in bed questioning myself about burnout and why I still, after 1.5 year, have so much of unwillingness to work, why some working tasks take me so much time, and that I feel just as I have PTSD because of flashbacks.
Few minutes later and this lovely lady explained incredibly well.
I even visit traditional Chinese medicine for helping me out, for faster recovery, but it looks like as the recovery is the same as with healing cold. It takes 7 days if you cure it with medication or a week if you let it be.
Absolutely one of the best TED presentations I have watched. Great content, well presented and engagingly delivered. Thank you Dr Puleo for so accurately describing my working career and helping me how to both understand and change it.
Thank you for your kind words, ArtJourneyUK -- glad you enjoyed the content & (hopefully) found some ideas on how to make changes to avoid workplace burnout!
These situations and symptoms are strikingly familiar, this video made me realize i dont want to return to my current employer
+YZFMANIAC08 Yah in this recession f ... your employer become self emplyed
+YZFMANIAC08 That's what made me quit my job, the stress was literally killing me.
Guerrero_91 turned out not to be my job but the combination of excessive working and working out 4/5 times a week vigourously! My advice if your feeling burnout, be like a tightrope walker, if you drift off to one side then lean towards the other to create balance. Cut down on everything you were doing before signaling any symptoms!
Yeah, they're like Google - they know everything! Be strong! Love yourself.
This talk really spoke to me, I'm in the counseling field where a lot of burnout and stress occurs, and it's a hot topic among counselors. I appreciate this research.
My girlfriend is a social worker substance abuse counsler and is burnt-out so bad she dumped me last week :( she just got her masters last spring but about quit her job last week, she said she feels like she is drowning and also she said she feels like she is losing her mind and alcoholics yell at her while she tryst to council them, she wakes up everymorning at 3:00 and can't go back to sleep, some nights she only gets 1 hour of sleep :(
This talk on burnout is such a timely and needed discussion. My greatest lesson learned from this talk? Even when you recognize that you are burned out, it lasts longer than we think. Dr. Puleo's proposed model is ground breaking and must see for organizations...burnout as form of PTSD is an important discussion that needs to happen. Thanks for getting the conversation started, Dr. Puleo!
Geraldine Puleo Sorry I missed this.
Geraldine Puleo Thank you for your talk. I burned out senior year of high school. I'm 21, haven't done any college and don't have a job. Where, I pray to God, can I get help? Where they don't write it off in vocational rehab as ADHD? (which I have).
ADHD is the biggest fraud on this planet, next to climate change denial. There is no way to test for ADHD cause it is an invented entity. They only do it to get out of THEIR responsibility to help you.
This is so good! This has validated my feelings, I have reached burnout too many times. I''m only 28, but its good to know how to recognize once you have reached burnout. Balance is the key to everything.
Hi, Nick - I'm so glad that my TEDx Talk helped you identify the warning signs. I also have a video on Burnout Recovery on my UA-cam channel (Dr Geri Puleo) -- this might help you "speed up" the recovery process. Good luck!
wow.... after watching this,
I believe this is why I walked off of my job in the middle of my work day and have not returned to work in over a year.... strange I never considered this is the reason that I've also become sort of a shut in also. Thanks for this video, I feel its provided some very useful insight into what might be happeneing with me internally at this time. I hope that becoming aware of this might help put me back into my life again. I used to love my occupation more then any other part of my life. Since leaving I've been considering a career change. Perhaps I should be looking in the direction of professional help instead. I think I might be suffering a life long case of CPTSD not related to work due to a traumatic upbringing, but it may have manifested in this way for me as well as the other chronic symptoms I've always had to deal with. Much appreciation.
Cosmic CareBear it takes a long time to figure out how manage/cope with burnout/ptsd. I started working on a short series of videos addressing this issue from my personal perspective. Hope all is well.
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Thanks, many people do not understand traumas and ptsd
Being recovered from burnout myself, I can testify that Dr. Puleo's statement about the similarities between burnout and pstd are real. The turning point in my recovery process was when my therapist treated me as a PSTD victim. Hopefully others can be as lucky as I was finding the right professionals to help in the healing process.
Glad that you got the help you needed, Cristina - best of luck on your burnout recovery journey!
Don't feel hopeless
You have a life to live
That's why you were given a life
Take as many paths in life that you feel can make you overcome your current misery
Thank you for reminding me this
I'm glad to see someone actually addressing the issue of "burn out". All I can add, agree with divert psychological... dont think you really recovery to 100%. Type of reverse of being totally competent to not being able to hold a tea spoon. Depletion of energy... and having to really motivate for simple task. Coping with the burn out is working with employers expectation. Sometimes irrelevant because it's an industry. But what is the best resource... taking emotion out of it and using other resource like empathy, practicalities ect. Don't take my heart and soul😆 it works better and I still meet with demand.
Burnout=Adrenal Fatigue=PTSD. Many have trauma in their childhood. All my life I suffered from PTSD because of it. I only recently learned that it's called PTSD.
If you had in childhood it is probably Complex PTSD. Sometimes this is misdiagnosed as Borderline Personality Disorder. It is important to get the right diagnosis, so you can treat the underlying trauma, instead of medicating the symptoms of Borderline which may not even be what a person has.
Will look into it more. Thank you.
+fruitfulbliss Check into Pete Walker's book on Complex PTSD from surviving to thriving. I need to get it too, everyone says it's their bible to this condition. The brain has neuro plasticity so it CAN get better.
I have heard so much about that book and, yes, I agree, the mind can heal anything. We just need to believe :).
Me too!! I get help online because I'm trying to divorce an abuser. There should be a livestream from Family Tree Counseling channel in a bit over an hour. If you subscribe you get a notice.
I have a new therapist but she doesn't seem to get it.
Wow, listening to this I have most of these symptoms. This is geared at job environment, but same for family unit. I even got cancer and one of my kids has adrenal fatigue.
Easily the best talk on burnout i've seen so far! Thank you for recognising all aspects of burnout.
Glad you enjoyed the TEDx Talk, Beren! Good luck!
Dr. Geri Puleo best and only talk that had nailed what i had! Do you have any more information on recovery? Going on a year recovery and very slow
One of the jobs I left, I did not realized how badly I was burned out. I felt like a hamster in a wheel. Six weeks after I quit, I began sobbing uncontrollably. I am getting ready to quit my present job because I am beyond burnout. I realized that I need to do some in depth shadow work to discover why I tolerate it and where my ptsd came from in my childhood. Doing a whole bunch work on myself to move forward and allow my creativity and happiness to come back to me.
Dr. Puleo, i want to thank you for doing this work and sharing this. I have been suffering with this for about 3 1/2 years. This really is a comfort in knowing i'm not the only one. You are amazing!
I have to admit this video touched me thoroughly since I had this
Residual or chronic
burnout. For more than on
e year my life has been terrible and I had to go through things that were very difficult to deal with. It started with anxiety disorder and panic attacks and escalated to depression. And she was right when she said it takes years to overcome burnout . I am still on medications and psychotherapy and hopefully I will recover from it and be normal again.
My burnout happened because I try to help others when I just need to help myself. Thank you for doing this video it's nice to see someone share different ideas on solutions I have a disability and never talked about it for fear of being targeted. I'm a type A it does help to hear others say they also have a tough time getting motivated to get back to work because of Covid burnout. Thank God I'm OK and able to sleep as for withdrawal I'm not like this I like to be involved. This is what their saying about me outbursts thank you for this video I live in Canada I hope this goes viral.. 🙏
As a person with PTSD, and having gone through burnout, I had no idea about the ADAAA. Thank you for sharing that!
thanks for the great info! i burned out at work a couple of weeks ago. i kept pushing through mental, physical, and sleep fatigue until i got to work one day and didn't recognise the people there. i'm trying to rebuild again now.
Proloco47chev This is so true. I kept pushing with working in Veterinary medicine until I had to make the scary decision to leave the field entirely.
OMG !! The in fighting from
Women at work is a real big
Big problem. I hear that women need a character development course and
Pass or fail testing otherwise
Women working together is
Attuned to a butcher shop,
I suffer burn out and I told to my friend that was weird that I feel like I have postraumatic stress, like come back from the war… I believed that was an exaggeration, but right now everything makes sense… I was a professor in a faculty full of corruption and I was very productive, there was so much envy and mediocrity, I couldn’t stand it after 10 years and I quit my job, but I feel so sad and vulnerable… it’s so difficult to overcome this, I feel that I will never be able to trust again and motivate myself… thank you for this…
How are you doing? hope all the best🫶💪🏼💪🏼!
@@davids_d3246, I am better, thank you for your kindness. Best regards!
I burnt out 2 years ago. I hated my toxic boss and how he always pushed me to do more and more and since then I can't find a job because I'm terrified every time I see a new workplace. I hate working with people and now thinking about something I can do on my own or work from home.
Don't feel bad ...your not alone
I work from home but still burnout ! Because there’s no distinction between work and home! They expect me to be available 24/7 because I work from home
People continue because they dont want to loose their jobs, have mortgages....They put work on top of everything....but then you dont get recognition....appreciation....basically you work hard and only get negative comments on what you do....so the top 10 reasons I can relate to especially the ones she describes....also the self blaming very very familiar....and then at the end of the day....you loose your job....while it is a big blow....leaving a toxic environment isnt a bad thing....at allll....
This is certainly timely for me. Like others here I cannot find a doctor or psychiatrist that is current on this issue. They have pretty much pinned it all on me. In fact, while seeking help I became so discouraged it caused me to further retreat. Our office was so bad that everyone who could retire did. I quit early and now I'm not fit to work anywhere. My memory is functioning at 37% this makes it almost impossible to get any meaningful work. My management even knew I was suffering and turned their back on me.
+Jill McHenry In Astrology we have Pluto in Capricorn right now, Pluto rules death, quite literally. Capricorn rules Corporations, so it can go many ways as you can see. So many people are feeling the underworld tugging at them from there cubicles.
But so many facebook and instagram posts to make. Poor kids= more burnout.
She explained exactly what happened to me last year. She's especially right about the flashbacks, it's scary.
But how do I address the PTSD?
I have both burn out and PTSD from working in the Veterinary Field. Once I burned out, I was done, I had to check out from working in Veterinary medicine. Worst feeling ever. What changed in the vet field was when I worked at an animal shelter and spent 8 hours in the euthanasia room euthanizing dangerous animals that were unable to be rehabilitated. All I saw was the terror and emotions in there eyes and I just couldn’t keep doing it. It wasn’t why I became a Registered Veterinary Technician in the first place. I want to eventually go back into the Veterinary field, but I think it will take many many years before I can. Thank you for this video. ❤️
100% my experience. Over 30 years, I've gone from vet tech to groomer and now to very selective petsitting.... It's so hard. I love animals and I really don't have any other skills to make a living.
Be strong!
She is nailing it. Everything I’m too fried to articulate.
Dr Geri, this was an astounding insight. I burned out 7 years ago. Noone wanted to understand that I actually had cptsd which took 4 years to figure out. I basically came all this way with practically zero medical support. Psychiatrists throw anti-depressants at me and no one wanted to recognise the PTSD aspect to this. The ADHD aspect has also been ignored. I ended up with rheumatoid arthritis after 4 years. I am finally in a place to heal. I got disability... Not for anything I can point a finger at but rather due to severe short term memory problems. You are the first person to put this all together and even though I am finally healing, it's gratifying to know that I was right and all the Drs were wrong 😁 Thank you 🙏
This was very helpful. Thank you so much. I understand the concept and myself so much better now. I've had burnout for the majority of my life from C-PTSD from an extremely young age.
I've noticed my whole family actually deals with burnout. I was getting so much better, SO much better. It only took me 3-4 months to recover (not fully) from a severely traumatic event that happened before I turned 16. Then, six months later, I got severely injured from a car accident and had to live on a recliner for 4-5 months. It's been about 6 months since the car accident.. but today, I am also affected by the severe traumas of my early and mid childhood with flashbacks, night terrors, severe dissociation. Not to mention, I'm most likely dealing with a nervous breakdown again. This is my later "childhood" I'm assuming?
I have won the "unhealthiest 17 year old, physically and mentally award" Yay me! Nerve damage (feet, hands, back), bulged discs, circulation problems, hypothyroid, post-concussive syndrome, bulimia...etc. I won!
*cough, *cough *BURNOUT.
Anyone out there that feels alone, I just want to say that you are strong, you're definitely not alone, and give it time. You're life is craving a break. I highly recommend a healthy diet and even just a LITTLE exercise every now and then. I understand how hard it can be to even eat healthy food when burned out, yet exercise? Is this chick crazy? And reach out for talk therapy, and your compassionate, loving friends. Hell, get a dog you can talk to, but don't do it in public and don't tell anyone I told you to do that.
Do some EASY stretching even. I promise you, it will make your day feel even .0001% better.
Take care everyone.
Hydrate!
Laughter cures.
MEDITATION
I am a 17 year old that knows absolutely nothing, a spherical bastard!
Be strong! Thank you for comment! ;) plus LOL! (really, do it!)
Amazing. You are definitely a survivor ! Good 👍🏻 on ya
I’ve been in burn out for around 6 years, I feel like I’m finally starting to recover, I just hope I can continue to get a little better everyday
On one hand I'm thankful for my job, on the other hand I feel like I'm in prison. After 10 years I developed MDD (depression) and anxiety on this job. I finally came off the meds, but now the symptoms are creeping back. I need a change and want out of this industry. I don't get paid enough for the stress and responsibilities I deal with daily.
Teeenuh Beenuh same stuff did you leave the job?
Did you quit?
Thank you so much for this video. So, so so soooooo much, everything is what I have gone through. I can't believe I have suffered burnout for over 4 yrs. I'm not star employee but Neurodivers and this pushed me to work even harder so the burn out came from that. It's taken 2yrs to recover and I'm still going through it! I left the company after redundancy and that's what tipped me off the edge. I'm still looking for a job but could not be honest with friends and family that I havnt been looking because I'm scared to go back to that place and I think subconsciously I have formed anxiety from picking a laptop and writing a cover letter. I have left so many roles and industries...I need help with someone that understands this and can help me. I got let go because i was struggling, this is what was said🙏
Excellent information had PTSD twice be patient with recovery do not push yourself to mush take it easy one day at a time!!!
+Alec Hemy , Ya know that saying about if you aren't part of the solution, you are part of the problem? _TAG, YOU'RE IT_..
Your comment was inappropriate; wreaks of bully mentality, and has absolutely NO place in _any_ discussion, not here or anywhere.
That is the problem and many PTSD sufferers...are here. And they are announcing their presence.
@Alec Hemy Me 2. I'm in PTSD strike 2 , why? I recovered, I was doing so much better when suddenly I was escaping my home cause I had to deal with my brother being abused. This lead me to meet a guy far away, to escape, and he abused me. Threat me with knife. Killed my baby in my stommach. And when all this happened,my friend had killed himself, but I was so controlled so I did never talk to my friend. I found out he had committed suicide, several months later when I gave just escaped my abuser. At this time I had a relative who was taking care of me, I thought til she started trying to control me and stood in my way of recovery and just expected me to smile and go to work she didn't understand how sick I was from all of this. She threw me out cause I continued therapy and refused to do what she said was good for me,cause she was wrong. You think my brain and body just move on from this without PTSD again?
You're wrong.
7 years ago! And we still won’t listen. Even today most people still refuse to treat burnout seriously!
I've been single-handedly caring for a chronically ill spouse for about 6 years now. I believe I'm burned out or have compassion fatigue. I feel so alone since all of my family and friends live thousands of miles away.
My #1 would have to be co-employees. When others only do their kobs halfway and I'm constantly goimg behind them to finish what they started. It drives me crazy! I have a generally good boss and the owner of the company is outstanding! Best guy I've ever worked for.
Thank you for the talk and your research. It gave me a lot of clarity about what I have been goingh trough...and finally someone is not denying that Burn out actually exists ! Bless you.
Thank you for the latest updates on this topic. I have PSTD & burnout, from trying to force myself to push through & keep up.. finally I cannot do that anymore. I have scaled down my work & activities significantly & learning to go slower & be kind with myself. I hope live long enough to make the turnaround & recovery so I can enjoy my life for a change ..
This is a great talk. I'm not sure how it showed up on my feed, but for 6 years (2007-2013) I dealt with one medical emergency after another in my family and took care of my mom as she had ovarian cancer. After that I had a cancer scare (2016) and surgery that left me with a paralyzed vocal cord. And alongside it all, for the last 9 years (2013-2022) I have been working on major projects under intense deadlines and with excessive overtime (like 50%+), with little reward. A couple of years ago I made a plan to move to a mountain town. I currently live in a small apartment and live quite frugally overall to make that dream a reality. We know what real estate has done these last two years, so as a single person I feel I need work twice as hard to make it all happen. For several years my cortisol levels have been sky-high (never coming down in any of the testing I've had done), and created autoimmune issues. And yet, here I am, continuing to work so I can take care of myself when I'm older (I'm in my 40s now). And with Covid an overseas vacation has been put off for the third year in a row. Is this burnout? Does it take longer to get through it the longer you've experienced it?
In my previous role, when I told my boss I am not kipping up witht the workload and am not able to meet all tasks (I was literally working 12-13 hours a day on my 7.5 hours contract in Supply Planning), he said to me 'aren't you able to download some things during the night?'. I was like, you must be joking me.
Changed the role and I am not in this unhealthy environment anymore.
Thank you, you have given me a lot to think about. I believe that I hit that wall just last week, after ten years I went from up and coming to trash. I cant sleep, I shake, I want to go to work but the thought of it makes me want to vomit. I am having repeated stress episodes, yesterday I was able to count twenty-one of them. I do not like this.
How are you going? Did you recover?
@@Sirius-ql4rk wow thank you, I forgot that I made this post. Yeah it was rough, two years after I made my original post I was done, I was over my job, just going through the motions, I started looking for another job. I am a teacher, almost became a train driver just to get away. Then I got a job offer at a school 5 hours away, it was a fresh chance for a new start. I took the chance, haven't looked back. She's right it was it took ages to recover, but I did.
very significant issue for the concerned workforce..Thanks..
its such a dangerous place to be, when you run out of plans in life...and the odds are stacked way against you. People around you dont always see the signs, even if you show them. You could say people are selfish, but they dont realise it.
How I feel working in a hospital setting. Lack of leadership and lack of caring/support. Short staffing and work overload. Such a burnout…And Honestly just like she said, it’s mostly because I feel like nobody cares. Not feeling supported is an awful feeling and is exhausting. Burnout.
This video might have saved my life.
Same for me
this has been such an interesting perspective to hear. I'm from the UK and 5yrs ago had to leave my job due to lack of support and reasonable adjustments agreed by access to work. I had been with that employer for 9yrs before asking for help. I have numerous physical developmental and mental health challenges that meant I could no longer do my job without support. through the support of my local mental health hospital I sought to get myself heard and although I successfully won my tribunal on the grounds of disability discrimination it still haunts me to this day. I have constant nightmares where I wake up sweating and unable to resettle back to sleep. I can't say the managers name as it causes to much upset. I feel like I'm stuck in that time and realised I too have experienced burnt out. when I saw a therapist I was told I do not have PTSD but I think she is mistaken. I try not to think of it as that but in reality I do fit the prescribed symptoms and I hate it. I hate how I've been affected like so but get that this is how my body has allowed itself to cope with the trauma. I can so relate to your video. Well the bits I understood lol. I'd love to meet someone like you in person so I could talk properly about what I've experienced and continue to experience. Sorry for the long message and thanx ❤
Thank you so much, this is the best explanation of what burnout is and it’s scary..
9/11 still feels so raw, thanks for bringing it up randomly
Along with having survived domestic violence, my son went in military which threw me in shock especially when he went to Iraq. I ended up living with my 80 year old parents. I avoided men not having been able to cope with emotional stuff since I had to single parent and really have no trust in my judgment since abusive men seem to collect around me. Abuse involves keeping a woman trapped in a situation beyond what she can endure. Noone GETS the whole notion of being a battered woman. Along with this I had a concussion. I have what is termed multiple trauma. Add being over 60. Add being divorced. Add the loss of a friend I hung out with. Add economic deprivation. Add being finally thrown in with people my own age when I don't have the maturity to handle it. Learned helplessness is a fact of being controlled by someone mist of your adult life. That includes my friend who abandoned me.
Wow Barbara I am 36 and I feel just like you - or at least almost just like you - please contact me sometime - I am leaving for a CA family reunion in a few days - and I don't even want to go I am so hopeless. I wish you the best and hope when I get back maybe you and I can brainstorm a little. (Long story short - was tied up and almost killed by a man I was dating - already had depression and anxiety before that - went into downward spiral - lost job - moved up to Northern NH with Grandma - helped her with Trailside Lodge - met a girl - became involved though never with a girl before - she had severe PTSD as I did - hers was from IRAQ - we had 22 sled dogs - I became their mom - we both drank too much due to PTSD - she was abusive - I left - she hung herself in the garage of beautiful farm house we picked out together where we could look at Mount Washington every morning whist sipping our coffee - was a dream destined to fail - and now I can barely live my soul and heart are broken and I have no interest in a damn thing) - that's as short as I can put that - please write back - thank you, Sasha
+sasha white. Damn I'm sorry girl :(
I'm so sorry Barbara, God bless.
+Barbara Brennan , +sasha white , please look on youtubes and online for info about Narcissistic Personality Disorder [NPD], and about learning to recognize psychopaths and sociopaths.
It really sounds like that info might be very enlightening/helpful for you both. Imho, these kinds are perps of most abuses,
AND, set-up their kids to be vulnerable targets for more of it later in their lives; people don't come from stable functional families and get broadsided by abusive partners, usually, they are "groomed" to be vulnerable.
Kids grow up only understanding certain behaviors are "normal", because of not knowing any other ways...that programming stays with us, makes us magnets for the perps.
1 out of 4 women have experienced domestic violence sometime in their
Life. And they are controlled
By our USA, India, Etc cultures
To shut up and do not tell.
Probably the best talk I’ve heard on the topic, and this was 7 years ago. Wow
I left a job I used to love. New manager, something very wrong with him. He targeted people who he perceived as weak, or started spreading false information. The entire department left in fairly rapid succession. He inferred that I was suffering from burnout, after intimidating me to resign. I had physical health issues which were hidden, and rare. I had physical proof in the form of a surgical scar, yet he continued to say I was making it up.
I am 50 and repeated it over 5 times in my life. I recently noticed calcium regulation is not good in my body. I recommend Vitamin K1, K2 and D3 with some multiminerals
I'm in it right now. I've given up and I don't understand the point anymore. I can't even work, I haven't had a job in so long and I actually have to be out of my apartment within 24 hours. Demoralization doesn't only happen at work. Sometimes it happens when you're a stay at home parent. Years of being abused and years of telling myself that I wasn't. I don't know really what the point is anymore. People say it gets better, but it just gets worse again too, doesn't it? It's just always goes back to bad.
It’s sounds like you’re really in the thick of it right now. I hope you have someone in your life who can offer you compassionate support and safety, and then I hope you find a way to get therapy from someone who knows how to help you. Look for a therapist who understands polyvagal theory and developmental trauma.(Kathy Kain, Deb Dana, Stephen Porges, Peter Levine, Irene Lyon). NeuroAffective Relational Model has been revolutionary for me. Most therapies don’t know how to help with nervous system regulation.
This TED Talks is so true in 2020. Wow now I realized that's what has been happening to me.
I just can‘t believe it but you just have - sadly - described the reality that I have have been seeing for quite some time in my organisation. As much as it is sad, it is also eye-opening. Thank you.
Children with significant disabilities that go undiagnosed can develop this from normal life experiences. It's tragic. Could early burnout be a reason why many children can't even join the work place because of school burnout ?
Yes!
I was a special needs kid pushed too far, graduated from UCL & am like thats it!! NO MORE turned down a banking job at RBS to open a cafe that didn't make any money and now I just need a long break......
Yeah, that's a parents obligation: to establish and maintain a good connection in relationship with every of their kids. If just one goes unnoticed, (introvert, isolated) - Rainforests can burn down! (let's imagine it this way)
Yeah. I'm autistic and have ADHD and burned out through grad school. First I got burned out from general life stuff (so much task switching, so many things you have to do just to keep your health and to not get into trouble) and then trying to go back to studying after a year when my health was getting better the corona virus started going on and like I already needed help to ease back into studying but now there were a lot of new issues and also not a lot of support in place. Over the time I accumulated so many bad experiences that I just can't study without an emotional toll that makes me super fatigued and dizzy in under an hour.
@@toni2309 I relate to this experience immensely.
Monday morning.. watching this without finishing my work 😢
Go to 👆👆 and give yourself a life free of ptsd
Great talk. As an employer and an ex burned out employee, I'd recommend employers and employees take note. However,legislative solutions, however well meaning, in an adversarial legal system, will cause far more problems than they'll solve.
If this whole culture can't change from the inside out this symptom will only increase. The corporate world thrives on squeezing everyone dry. It won't change by itself and "legislation" is part of the system we have to change.
LloydieP Did you know the word satan definition is Adversary. Yes, the legal system is literally satanic. You pay Baal (bail) your lord in order for the corporations to prey on your body. Watch my videos and awaken.
13 months ago I was terminated from my toxic workplace. I was descending into burnout, but at the time I didn't know it. I have forgiven all involved in that decision. Maybe it stopped me from a full burnout.
burned out at virtually every job I have had, about to leave my latest so that I can avoid another, a burnout-less workplace in turbo capitolizm might be a myth for millennials, may God be with you all..
I have worked at a homeless shelter now for almost one year. I choose to stick with four days a week 8 hours a day versus five days a week. I do this so I don’t get burned out and I can stay empathetic and have energy. I would rather do this even if I making less money My job is physically and emotionally stressful but so far I’m doing okay with this happy medium
@Linda Hebb Great strategy to not only avoid burnout, but also to retain the compassion that is so necessary to help your clients!
Love this talk and i hate being a people pleaser because its like i worship the manager bc my parents tramas that i was given which leads to burnout
I literally cried while watching this video……
Me too
Yes so true, leaving call center after being burnout for years just learning why I’m so depressed and stressed. Also never work in a call center it’s the worst for this!