Scarborough RT derailment highlights need for better TTC maintenance

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  • Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
  • Ten years past its due date and four months before being decommissioned, the Scarborough RT is being used to highlight bigger problems with the transit agency's state of good repair. Mark McAllister has more.

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  • @iamcanadian7926
    @iamcanadian7926 Рік тому +17

    TTC could learn from Vancouver's Skytrain on maintaining the system.

  • @HeronPoint2021
    @HeronPoint2021 Рік тому +6

    my uncle (operating Engineers) who had every welding ticket known had to weld the large nuts on the tracks in Vancouver: they were cracking. Original install, bad torque, or just not paying attention.

    • @Itsmytest
      @Itsmytest Рік тому +1

      I'm no expert, but the system wasn't ever designed to operate in heavy winterized or heavy rainfall climates (despite Toronto being the demo city, and Vancouver being the first operational city - only Detroit and Kuala Lumpur bought the technology from Ontario) I'm willing to bet the conditions of the Vancouver sea air had a part to play in the cracking nuts or track.

  • @BmanTheChamp
    @BmanTheChamp Рік тому +4

    Glad I never take the RT anymore

  • @kevinsullivan8570
    @kevinsullivan8570 Рік тому

    Why didn't Doug Ford push his new subway into Scarborough rather than downtown? Is the Corktown station going to have more traffic than a station that replaces the LRT?

    • @ElliottDuster
      @ElliottDuster Рік тому

      Cause it's more justifiable for a subway downtown. Scarborough's infrastructure sadly isn't good enough for investing in a subway line. There is an LRT line being proposed for Scarborough though... just pitching in my 2 cents.

    • @andymcrory5353
      @andymcrory5353 Рік тому +3

      This answer makes no sense. Why do you say that Scarborough's infrastructure isn't good enough? What infrastructure isn't good enough? And if it isn't good enough, then all the more reason to build infrastructure like a subway to bring Scarborough up to standard. The downtown has plenty of transit infrastructure. It is the people of Scarborough who need more transit, not downtown. People who live in Scarborough have a lot further to go to get downtown than people who already live downtown. Who wants to take an LRT which will take forever to get you downtown when you can take a subways instead?

    • @thestorm6256
      @thestorm6256 Рік тому +1

      @@ElliottDusterPOV: You’ve never visited Scarborough

    • @ElliottDuster
      @ElliottDuster Рік тому

      @@thestorm6256 I literally live in Scarborough 🤣

    • @MrAlen6e
      @MrAlen6e Рік тому

      ​@PixCel12 tines are changing geographically Scarborough sits at an strategic point in the city for property investment. Two GO lines, the englinton LRT ( if it ever opens) , development and increase in population will make it more attractive with its proximity to downtown compared to other regions, hence why he supported the extension to STC of line 2.

  • @ricladouceur6202
    @ricladouceur6202 Рік тому +27

    This is what happens when government can't make a decision.

    • @slowmo0925
      @slowmo0925 Рік тому +1

      More like widespread incompetency.

  • @62Cristoforo
    @62Cristoforo Рік тому +12

    A. Crosstown Eglinton subway line should’ve been built 40 years ago, when we had the money and it was cheaper to build than today and when builders weren’t in the habit of stealing billions in funds and delaying the job a decade. After about the 80’s Toronto went into a free fall and a free-for-all; no one took civic pride in planning and infrastructure in this city.

  • @Itsmytest
    @Itsmytest Рік тому +3

    State of Good Repair died when David Gunn left the TTC. It was, and always remains a management decision to continue State of Good Repair, fuelled by commissioners, who are all city councillors.
    And as someone else pointed out earlier: the Russell Hill Crash wasn't primarily caused by faulty equipment (the trip arm), but by human error. This is why I stopped watching the news, and only found out about this today. The reporting on this derailment is pure garbage.

  • @CrownlessOcto
    @CrownlessOcto Рік тому +1

    Now they can’t fund new trains for line two? Oh that just another accident waiting to happen

  • @coastaku1954
    @coastaku1954 Рік тому +1

    I took Line 3 for fun once recently... and boy was it the sketchiest thing I've ever ridden. The whole time the train is shuffling side to side, the train was barely full, and only 2 stations were relevant: Kennedy and Scarborough City Centre, it's time for a Line 2 extension to replace it

    • @ahuman9143
      @ahuman9143 Рік тому

      please in london weve got the dlr and central line which shake worse than line 3 and are louder and hey at least your trains didnt derail because the trains motor fell off the wheels whilst moving less than 10 years after the train was made

    • @coastaku1954
      @coastaku1954 Рік тому +1

      @@ahuman9143 Hey at least you have like 10 lines and can go literally everywhere in the city by train

    • @riceexe
      @riceexe Рік тому

      Those linear induction motors really are flawed, they don't tolerate snow very well and they bring out the poor track condition with all the noise

  • @slowmo0925
    @slowmo0925 Рік тому +3

    Replacing subway with buses???World class city? Insanity at the highest level.

    • @AV-kc5wr
      @AV-kc5wr Рік тому

      So what are they suppose to do ? Offer helicopter shuttles ?

    • @slowmo0925
      @slowmo0925 Рік тому

      I don't know.There is are people who get lucrative compensation to plan for future public transportation development.

  • @evicencio31863
    @evicencio31863 Рік тому +9

    I think the "Scarborough RT" ends the journey here.

  • @Trxustze_8190
    @Trxustze_8190 Рік тому +2

    2:01 bro that crash happened from humam error not equipment 🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️

    • @Itsmytest
      @Itsmytest Рік тому

      Media? Gaslighting? Say it ain't so.

    • @srirajhsripathinathan
      @srirajhsripathinathan 5 місяців тому

      Human error of the driver who passed 3 red lights before crashing into the parked train at another red light sorta near Dupont Station and mechanical malfunction of a signal light that the driver pass through and Triparm not working that didn’t trip the train’s breaks

  • @ahuman9143
    @ahuman9143 Рік тому +1

    the ttc's 'solution' to line 3 (line 2 extention) isnt going to be ready until 2030 at least and their 'temporary' solution is shuttle buses until then which seems like a really horrible thing to do, seen as the ttc knows that line 3 is bad, why didnt they do something about it 10 years ago? or extend the late running line 5 to scarborough over line 3 which a short closure is better than a 7+ year one

    • @riceexe
      @riceexe Рік тому

      Rob Ford wanted a subway, so we're getting a subway. Hopefully the BRT gets funded, and red painted lanes + transit signal priority get added to Midland, Kennedy, and Ellesmere in the mean time.

  • @MrAlen6e
    @MrAlen6e Рік тому +1

    This is an embarrassment for the city of Toronto and the province. It speaks volumes of Canadian infrastructure and how we have fall behind. WHERE IS the attorney general STOP CUTTING and maintain infrastructure. City hall and the Toronto electorate IS at fault for the failure of maintaining infrastructure all just to keep a few suburbanites happy

    • @slowmo0925
      @slowmo0925 Рік тому

      Canadian railway system is equivalent with third world countries.This RT fiasco,it is just the proof.

  • @scottb9026
    @scottb9026 Рік тому +2

    I have long believed that our region (GTHA) should have an amalgamated transit agency run by the province. Just like every other major metropolitan area I know of in Europe and Asia. The TTC is not a poorly run organization but it is chronically under funded by city council. I would support whole heartily the province amalgamating all the transit services together.

    • @vuvuzela691
      @vuvuzela691 Рік тому

      The province used to help fund municipal transit services but that ended after Mike Harris

  • @LANDofC0NFUSI0N
    @LANDofC0NFUSI0N Рік тому +2

    Our transit is a joke, and there's no wonder why we are considered one of the worst transits

  • @Yellernation
    @Yellernation 4 місяці тому

    City has an unlimited amount of money. No credit limit. Just spend the money. Easy. Cheaper than all the liability lawsuits are happening. Increase fares 4.00 one way. 4.50 cash

  • @wilfstor3078
    @wilfstor3078 Рік тому

    They make a point about Line 2, but if you look at the numbers, the trains on line 3 were almost 40 years old, being built in 1985 and were constantly running exposed to the elements at much higher speeds. The trains on line 2 however, are only 27-25 years old (being built in the late 90s and early 2000s), and run primarily underground. They are also kept in much better condition than the trains on Line 3 were, since the yard on Line 3 could only really handle light maintenance and cleaning, which meant that they had to be trucked away for repairs, which wildly inflated the poor state of the line.
    I don't really have any concerns about the safety of line 2, and I ride on it pretty frequently. Rather than replacing the old trains in my opinion all they need is a midlife overhaul.

  • @andymcrory5353
    @andymcrory5353 Рік тому +1

    They never should have built the Scarboro RT in the first place. If they had built a subway out to the Scarboro Town Center in the first place then none of this would be an issue and we would not have to be building the subway anyway many years later. If you are going to do something, do it right the first time. Going cheap sometimes ends up costing you more money.

    • @Sam19509
      @Sam19509 Рік тому

      Yeah blame Conservatives like Mike Harris and Rob Ford😂.

  • @alexacdc1234
    @alexacdc1234 Рік тому +2

    They can just upgrade the train cars??? Vancouver skytrain is the exact same thing.

    • @riceexe
      @riceexe Рік тому +1

      Rob Ford wanted a subway

    • @raymond289
      @raymond289 Рік тому

      NO. Kennedy and Ellesmere station tunnel turn are too narrow.
      New generation train Does not fit Turing radius. Platform Kennedy need 20 - 30 Cm Minimum Clearance order to Fit New Train. Rail are worn-out. Materials made was lower grade.
      Main st Science world Turn is 2.5 Times Generous Turing ratio including WaterFront Station to Burrard Station 5 time generous Turning Ratio.
      Vancouver Skytrain recently Re - done track Single Track for whole summer night time. 2021 and 2022. Expo line.

  • @TDotHustla
    @TDotHustla Рік тому

    Oliva Chow better get to work..

  • @UnrealPhantom
    @UnrealPhantom Рік тому

    RIP SRT

  • @ray017ray017
    @ray017ray017 Рік тому

    just dont hire the folks who did the light rail in Ottawa lol. hire someone with pedigree and pay good money

  • @Mario87456
    @Mario87456 Рік тому

    What a cool train crash I would I could have seen it happen.

  • @JoniMitchell-qi6hr
    @JoniMitchell-qi6hr Рік тому +1

    What happened?

    • @alankingchiu
      @alankingchiu Рік тому +3

      RT train derailed.

    • @dietman
      @dietman Рік тому +4

      Doc Ock and Spider man had a showdown

  • @jimmylam9846
    @jimmylam9846 Рік тому +2

    The world's 5th worst transit system is TTC

    • @eliotticard8604
      @eliotticard8604 Рік тому +5

      Honestly, It's the number 1 worst system imo

    • @Bloor25
      @Bloor25 Рік тому +6

      @@eliotticard8604 Check out New York City's system, some parts are over 80 years old.

    • @thestorm6256
      @thestorm6256 Рік тому +7

      Try to take a bus in Chicago after 10 PM 😂

  • @Magnolia7932
    @Magnolia7932 Рік тому +2

    Bus way! Another failing idea and a waste of the money

    • @coastaku1954
      @coastaku1954 Рік тому

      I'm sorry and car infrastructure isn't a waste of money?