Yep 100%, cool to see differences in how they approach some of these champs. Not saying agreeing is bad, but u were ''stabbing'' Ash quite a few times, which was quite entertaining on its own. 😂
I like Blazin and subbed to him several months ago. He is pretty level headed and despite playing for a long time he seems to understand things from an aaverage players point of view. Good to see him doing a colab with you
The thing that upset me the MOST about Lady of Ireth is that she was featured in the Call of the Arbiter. This made her seem like someone new and strong that would be a force in what was a relatively new faction at the time that was lacking in legendaries. I built her expecting her to finish my Sylvan Watchers Doom Tower and I replaced her with a level 50 Orm a few weeks later.
I have had good luck with Adelyn(fully booked out, lvl 60 5 star) working with my geomancer. Her aura of +60 ACC really gives him a boost for someone without the best gear or champions.
Loved the collab. Blazin is a cool guy and his Sunday Podcast The Knights of Taleria with other CC's is a great look at what's happening in Raid. Tune in live on YT or Twitch or watch the YT vid later but it's a good laugh and some good insights.
Guys, love both of your insights as hardcore vets in the game (which I am not), though it is so easy to see how much personal experience and varied play effects the 'usefulness' of the champs. Some different stat focus, some different sets used, some different quality of gear, are they booked yet or next in line. So many factors to change the mileage we get from these champs. I have Lady of Ireth and Jagg both booked out and with partial masteries. They are both used on my FW 21 teams and easily pull their weight. I have used both of them in Sintranos rooms and at least 1 DT secret room. Lady of Ireth feels like she needed 1 more thing, like some form of revive option, turn meter boost or something to feel really good, or maybe like some kinda passive debuff removal like Doompriest, but she can do decent heals. Jagg I would love to invest in deeper, though I feel like other champs are slightly ahead in priority. Part of this problem to me is that he is pretty squishy as an attack based champ and I end up falling back on defensive and HP based damage dealers because they are so much more survivable. That said, I have a whole stack of attack based damage dealing champs further back in my priority list for the very same reason. The game seems to bottleneck them into this place where keeping them alive is just too damn complex. One of my favorite things is finding the superpowers of single champs, and always love finding the CC who just loves generally pooped-on champs, pointing out some of their uses. This video alone shows so many just by itself, and I can just see one champ picked while the other cc is seething about the choice, lol. It's kinda like people arguing over which martial art is the best. Edit: to add that the whole polymorph thing which is clearly a problem at some point, still barely effects me in the top half of Gold 5 Classic. I'm not sure at what point it becomes an overwhelming nuisance, but I haven't reached it, and I'm really thinking it shouldn't be the deciding factor in a champ's usefulness valuation by itself unless that champ is just otherwise useful only in arena. My 2 cents, but I might think that you 2 are playing way above the majority of your audience's level in a lot of areas.
Belletar was my second void leggo. First was Tramaria so I was dissatisfied with my luck. But I use him almost everywhere now. He brings so much to the teams, and he is one of my fav LA and CA teams. He enables both main dps I use (wukong and Ragash). He is great with wukong bc of all the revives as well
Honestly - all Narma needs is her A3 to be reduced to 2 or 3 turns (or perhaps 3 turns but 4 poisons or AoE), her A2 can stay the same, and make her A1 a multi-hit that extends all debuffs at a high % chance or conditional (such as every critical or when under poison sensitivity), and cut the number of books needed in half. Cause this kit can work - problem is a very similar kit is on an Epic you can earn - Dark Kael. Cause as an epic he has a 3 turn CD on a sensitivity with 2 poisons, A2 is conditional extend all debuffs on all enemies if he lands a crit with 3 turn CD, a triple hitter that can activate poisons - and a passive that basically makes it impossible for bosses to crit if there is 2 poisons on them, with about 2/3 of only epic books needed to max him. If I had a Wixwell team up and running, and could run 2 DPS or couldn't use Geo, it'd be Dark Kael who is in reflex gear and kinda insane with it, cause he's booked and all and Narma isn't. Wurlim - honestly, because it's a thing now and wasn't when he was added, keep his A3 as is, change his A2 that he has decrease ACC and RES on the enemy and can't be resisted while increasing ACC and RES for your team, on a 3 turn, and make his A1 an AOE with a 50% chance of 1 turn freeze and just places the perfect veil regardless on champ with the lowest HP. Decrease ACC and RES - especially against some of the newer bosses - is extremely useful and to make it a no ACC skill makes it even better that they can't land stuff as easily but you can, as well as even some use in PvP potentially. But makes it easier to make teams around him that need less ACC and RES so you can build more damage - which his A3 then also helps because he's adding DEF and reducing damage - which paired with the one blessing also means he can take shield stacks off FK when he hits your team when they have the increase DEF up. And AoE freeze even at 50% chance - and while also buffing your res and lowering his ACC - would be of value against Bommel if he's the only one you got with freeze or even just a back up on top of his buffs. Even if they only did the A2 change I describe above I'd yank him out of the vault in a heartbeat to beat up on pretty much every boss - especially IT and Sand Devil seeing as even after being nerfed you still need 300 ACC or better vs IT at the top end apparently. And at this point in time - I don't mind polymorph because I don't see it a ton, and I'm in the bottom end of Gold 5. The only pain I see there is these mythical heavy teams, stone skin (which I find 1000 times more annoying than the handful of polymorphs I've seen), or these people where my 299 speed Arbiter, as lead, with a 1 star 'Intimidating presence' on Armanz who's in the team - are running some none speed lead without intimidating presence and it's not even a close race how much faster they are than me cause they must have close to 500 speed without any kind of buff. It's also why I don't have an issue with Armanz who yes, I see a lot of and dealt with before I built mine - teams that would have beaten me before still beat me cause they have a ton of RES or are faster than me. Same way my Seer team would lose, same way my Rhazin/Kymar team would that basically did the same thing people do with Armanz. But I only do arena because I still need to try and build my GH 4 years in (cause those times Arena was really broken I got screwed hard, trying to build teams that can keep up has been an issue, and a forced break for about a year did not help) and because I need the bonus stats from where your placed to help my teams in other content. If I finished the GH and didn't think I needed the like 20% extra HP, ATK, and DEF - I'd bail on PvP entirely because honestly the entire design is garbage and comes down to who has the more broken champs with the biggest numbers. Raid would be 10x better if it was just a PvE game where 'PvP' was limited more to things like Hydra Clash and CvC - granted those need adjustments too.
Not sure if it is because you guys just decided to not even build her, but how is the cow not in here? Easily one of the worst rated champs in the game.
Hey guys. Great video! So....I haven't touched love arena since a month after it launched. I'm in Gold 5 because of single man defenses. Polymorph isn't necessarily crazy at my ranking, however it's out of control. On thing about Poly I'll never understand, why'd they make Brimestone 'cleanse-able' outside of 6* but REFUSE to give Poly the same treatment to start to reel it in some! C'est la vie!
*Hi Ash. You are right. Vergumkaar is a good champ, with good and important skills. Overall, he is very solid. I like him, too.* *I wish to get him once😊* which set would you place him ? Please tell me.
Blazin is an awesome CC for Raid .. Love the Co-Lab :) Love both you guys +1 Blazin knows his champs...so great that he challenged Ash . I am in Gold V and polymorph is NOT an issue = never see it (classic arena) / Vergum is TRASH
Hey Ash ... I added this comment to your most recent video, cuase I need an answer. Does Bolster count as Sheild set for Wixwell??? Thanks for any answer.
Since Bolster is protected it can't be increased or have its duration increased. It can only be stripped by Seer as far as I know. I'm not sure if this is what you're asking about.
I think orpadin with the new void lego dwarf that boost turn meter on continous heal for a lot of turn meter. I would love to try lady ereth with retaliation gears and accessories along oela in hydra. Spam continuous heal and turn meter and add 2 big dps to see it goes. That would be fun to see.
I don't know what everyone says about Adeline, I wanted her for a specific HUGELY important team: SD. I got her, built her, partially booked her and she gave me a 20" team. Plain and simple. SD is the most important dungeon for me, so I am grateful I got her.
Tbh, polymorph affects me a lot even in the mid level account. My Leorius has become sheep so many times that literally changed the battle completely. And most of my opponents have 1 star blessings
I drew her as my first leggo lol. Is she good as a freeze team in tag arena maybe? I want to find so e use for her. But Im defo not wasting tomes on her lol
I have a crap champ list but i have a 50 5 star Adelyn and im short on healers... so is she crap or could help my account? i wanna 60 her but everybody dooks on her. i dont have 100 leggos
14:31 I agree..but he on a heal team where heals become damage along wythir,and other continuous healers like epics and leggos,it can be a nice mechanic also if they add some leggonor mythical that can damage with healing it would be op ,like the name suggests opardin
That Belletar pick hurt my soul. He was my first void legendary and an absolute game changer. I've been able to progress so much further in every dungeon, including hard stages, doom tower hard, unm cb and I've almost fully 3* Ogryn faction because of him. Also, no one seems to mention that his passive works on ANY REVIVE, not just his own.
Dont forget thats Ash and all other Whales have nearly every champ, of some 3 or 4 copies. After one year i pulled 6 leggos, one of them Pyxiell and still No Void leggo. If IT helps you thats all you need. Work with what you have. Greetings
I think they mean if you have other options. As a first legendary any is going to be good. Except my first leggo. Pyxniel lol. I did get Bad El Kazar after though
Narma the Returned was my second legendary I pulled. I still use her in iron twins and clan boss for spirit affinity specifically. In regen and good gear she solos iron twins 15
I like their comments, just use vrask or occult brawler..been playing for 4 years, still havent pulled either of those epics😂 the best champ to use is the one you have
Opardin is underrated, how dare you Blazin? 😂 he’s been great for me, especially with the new Nourish blessing… also have to agree with Ash about Cleo, polymorph isn’t really an issue for me in Gold V classic arena and Silver 3v3, and I don’t like Live Arena anyway but even when I do get on there I never use her 🤷🏽♂️ Lady of Ireth is such a waste of a sacred shard for me 😔 Great collab guys
Nice collab guys. Honestly as a top 50 arena player I still don't find polymorph that big of a deal. Sure it costs a few fights here and there but I due to the type of teams I run I find it kind of overrated and I don't use it on hardly anyone and don't fear it overly much.
I'd say personally I like Chronicler Adelyn, she's not amazing, but I built mine to about 85,000 power and she is usable pretty much everywhere. Faction wars, dragon, Iron Twins, Ice Golem, DT, Cursed City, etc. Not bad for a truly free champ that also we got 5 star awakenings for free as well, plus she takes very few books (haven't finished booking mine yet, she's down the list).
Hey, Gold III Live Arena f2p over here. and I still go up against speed teams with speed teams, my team usually has many debuffers, Mikage, Wukong, Robar, and Polymorph is not even the third on my list. my list of fears goes like this, 1. Armanz 2. Speed Arbiter 3. Speed Siphi, 4. They choose my Champs, since I don't have many. then comes Polymorph
Have you done a video showcasing skills with 2 turn cooldowns? Sethallia and black knight and Alika are great, and I’m sure there are plenty more that I can’t think of
I’ve been meaning to say this for a while but I’ve followed your UA-cam content the entire time and love the fall of fame from Scyl but also bringing in shade throwing clips …… out of principle you should do a “RETURN OF SCYL” video and pump her with your best gear.
I'm in Gold V and pretty much stay there arena I don't worry about polymorph one bit, I run the classic speed team, rarely, rarely, rarely, do I ever get polymorphed. Good video tho, thanks!
Gold 2 in live and tag, and gold v regular - I don't mind poly at all. You know what ticks me off in arena - Crowd control - A, most of my arena team is immune to poly (and the team I have that isn't seldom gets sheeped) but crowd control and lock out ruin the entire experience - it switches from playing a game to watching the worlds most sadistic cut scene - and Ash - I know you play in arena like this
Cleo absolutely has value. She's power crept for sure but it's pretty wild to see her mentioned. My mention is Grohak. I've stacked 250 crit damage and 100 Crit rate with 5200 attack and he won't hit. The rest of his abilities are rare abilities. Sadly I've pulled 3 of him and have no idea what plarium was thinking, Mustve been drunk
*Hi Ash. Why is Cleopterix worse?? Please explain.* Because, the title of this video is, the worst legendary champs. *So all the champs which you showing shall be worse ??* It can be, but i think there are 2, or 3 good champs which are not bad.
"And if you're not booking her, what're you gonna do with her...* Oh, Ash... mate, I have so many champions for which I don't have books and are on a year long waiting-list. Half the champions I use extensively are only partially booked or not at all. Its just an unsustainable thing with how many champions there are.
Pyxniel was the first legendary I pulled, and pretty much my only one for a while. I booked her, because I really needed her at the time, but it's still depressing looking at how much I had to invest in her to get her to even decent. It's a shame, because she looks amazing and has potential. Cut the books needed and buff her numbers, and she'd be good.
I'll be that one person then - I don't mind polymorph. I'm late game, essentially F2P (spent $50 over my first year). Gold 5 normal arena, Silver 3-4 in tag, silver 3 live. Polymorph gives a chance against teams that otherwise would auto-kill me. Power values aren't a good approximation of what a team can do, and I usually have to fight in tag team against things that I have to guess if I have a shot against it. At least with polymorph, I can SEE that it's coming before the fight starts (unlike stoneskin, speed, damage output, etc where I just have to guess). Personally, I'm a lot more bothered by them never raising the player limits in tag team, despite the base growing.
I just leveled Adelyn to 60 (unbooked) and she has 64K power with her 5-star soul. I put her in all perception gear and she has 423 ACC, 199 speed, 198 RES, 64K HP and around 3200 ATK and DEF. The speed and RES aren't good for arena but are good for just about every other content and she is tanky AF. I also think her ability to steal and transfer defbuffs on A1 is underrated, there are definitely times where she cheeses enemies by stealing things like block debuffs or revive on death. Definitely B tier and if you are f2p only pulling a few leggos a year and sitting on books then she is probably worth booking while you are waiting to pull your next leggo.
i use martyr as leader. paired with torrux. adelyn . chonoru and my fav temptress. i have no clue about this type of game and never watched a video about it. even started up without a invite code . i just use these because i like the combo. got heiress too she is still just a bit weak compared to the others unless we play with spider.
I like the colab, but my mind is a bit blown by the man saying that ANY champ is squishy because it was getting creamed in the Sin-Hard double Taras/Marichka room. That's just... wow... I'ma be strait right here and now... if the standard of "squishy" is that double Taras/Marichka blows them up, then nearly every champion in Raid is squishy.
I your point is valid. That was the first time I ever used him, but I may have to give him a fair shot somewhere else and do a full showcase to see exactly what he can do. Thanks for the idea.
I agree w blazin on g1 or g2 arena being fine. But if i get to g5 or do live on my lv65 account im mostly dealing with stoneskin and rarely a polymorph problem. But i also run high resistance teams so thats probably why i dont notice it. But its mostly ppl having Mythicals and Siphis and stoneskin nukers
I do agree to a point about adelyne the five start soul does help her do things that surprised me she is better than i expected her to be and Pixniel is not book worthy.
Chronicler Adolin is very strong for Sand Devil. The combo of decrease speed + sleep is one of a kind. I'm late game and she's the best sleep option on my account.
Jagg isn't bad - you just have to not think of him as a nuker but more as a support that can do pretty good damage. His passive stops bosses from Criting you, his turn meter control on his A1 (Like Drake's cough cough) is great utility especially when the double hit procs, and on top of that he can throw back debuffs for Dragon and spread debuffs in Spider or strip buffs in Arena or annoying wave content. Total swiss army knife even if he doesn't completely slap - not that his damage is bad at all!
A day late dollar short, I pulled Lady of Ireth last week and it broke my heart. I was like what the hell can I do with her. The new blessing was good for her and still she feel like Doo Doo.
Adelyn is the only legendary I have. I started playing while that event was going on so I got her on day 14. I almost didn't even do anything with her because of how bad her reviews were. But I am so grateful that I decided to use her. She's one of my best champions. I use her everywhere. I wish I could meet someone who could give me some advice on the game. So far I have Kael, High Khatun, Morag, reliquary tender and apothecary 5 star. I was going to make Magnarr 5 star next but I have a few other good epics and I don't know who I should evolve first. I just pulled Akemtum the other day and he's awesome. I also use Venomage, Zargala and Hoskarul. I have a handful of other epics that I'm not sure about. A couple that I'm probably going to use for food. Plus I have a few rares that I like to use like Theurgist, Marquess, Judge and war priest. Plus I have several that I have seen on this channel that are supposed to be good like Abyssal and Felhound. And a few other ones. So many champions that it's a bit overwhelming and so much to do that I don't feel like I'm progressing very quickly. I saw a video the other that said that you need Armiger. So I got him too. I just wish I could show what I have to someone so that they could tell me what I need to work on. Lol
I started my raid adventure in January of this year. I haven't been offline except to sleep ever since. I love/hate this game with a passion but can't put it down. We need a aa for raid bro.
jagg bnesaw if 5 stars for arena, you can easilly put him over 600 ac because he boost himself with 50% acc at the beginning of his turn, this mean that you can debuff even most of support guys. So you can put him in precision, target a bit over 400ac, and focus on dammage and speed . he will be a phenomenal debuffer. Mine has attc % on boots, he nukes and debuff. I admit he needs end game stuff to be great, but if you build him good, he s a must. I use him with Armanz in leed, Elva for support and Initwhe, this team is super fun and works as good as sun wukong. Guys if you have good studd Jagg is your man
im confused why ADELYN is ranked so low by everyone i maxed her out put some good gear on her and she is fucking doing damage helping my healer a lot she is way UNDER RATED
@skorpion7132 because she is terrible. There are probably about 50 champs in the game that does what she does. And better lol. If you built her out I feel sorry for you. Like everytime I see her in arena I laugh. Plarium bait worked
Disagree with Chronicle Adel. She definitely improved my run in Sand Devil. Have her in a relentless set & perception & with decent speed and a solid ACC amount. No books, I’m F2P and can’t afford books like that 😅 but it’s definitely pushed me further there.
The best buff they can give to Pyxniel is literally reducing the book she needs..... and refund those people who has booked her, the epic who does freeze and inc speed is literally 100% better than her XD
Great to see a collab and "debate," but next time get a moderator. Love you, Ash, but you gotta leave more space for your guest and not provide aside commentary as the conversation is going on. I get the excitement but you have to let the format flow. I hope to see more collabs because the community needs more back and forth and not just feeding Plarium money. Ps ...the people's champ IS JGIgs, and CCs need to recognize the Bro. He does the best content in this game.
Before people start jumping onto the bandwagon and say Mezomel is underwhelming, put her in full slayer gear and put her in classic/live arena. My Mezomel has only 6800 atk and 305 cd, but she pretty much one shots siphis, udks, and pythions through their defense buffs at full health 98/100 times. When they survive, they are alone with enough health for my other champs to easily pick off. She is the perfect counter for Leorius and anyone using swift parry since she rips through unkillable. Only the tankiest champs that even a monstrous Taras can't A2 snipe will survive Mezomel's a2 on her 2nd form. Not all mythicals are OP damagers in both forms. In fact, i don't think there is any. Each forms have different purposes. Mezomel's first form is primarily used to pick off the nukers (except Taras. Everyone has a problem one-shotting Taras 😂) and preventing them from reviving. Her 2nd form is to one-shot clear the rest of the team leaving behind only the stone skin champs. There are no mythicals that can one-shot a stone skin champ in a single turn. However, Mezomel is one of two champs that has the potential to take out stone skin champs as long as they don't have 130k health that even a Taras or a Georgid might have problems one-shotting. Mezomel is a solid arena and dungeon/dt champ. I use her everywhere and she brings the pain wherever she goes. Sure...i'd like her A2 in first form have a higher multiplier. But it's not a problem leaving a single lone reviver/udk to survive because regardless of enemy team being revived, your team still has the turn advantage to win the match and Mezomel's A1 in second form hits hard enough to pick everyone off again including the surviving reviver/udk anyways. If the tank has a debuff such as decrease defense on them, it's very rare for my Mezomel to fail one-shotting tanks. She can do 65k-85k dmg on my account per hit with debuffs on so only in niche cases where they have other passive dmg mitigation do they survive her A2 in 1st form.
ever since ronda came out, seems been my go to for like 99% of my raid games. i swear if they has most played stats on raid my ronda would be atleast atleaaast 98% of most legend used haha
Lady of Ireth was my primal mercy.. Fun times. Opardin is alot better, but they have the same problem. They don't do anything in the turn you use them. alot of the time when i bring a healer, i want to be able to get my nuker to survive to do another nuke and clear the wave/boss, unfortunately heals over time kits are at a resource deficit, bad action economy. You use an action, that does nothing right now, and it might do something the next time someone does an ability, but does not interact with enemies or allies until then.. just awkward.
Gold 3 Live Arena. Ash actually kicked my butt... But, more than Polymorph, Armanz has broken Live arena. He's 100% picked, and I would say 90% first picked. and it makes the mode super unenjoyable now.
For normal arena, I don't think Polymorph is a big deal, you'll only notice it when you try to climb to platinum or live arena, but for every player in gold 5 and below in classic arena, Polymorph is pretty non-existance and barely a problem... tho it's abig problem in Live arena since everyone is running their main Live arena champion with it
I think Wurlim should have his A3 turned back into a 4 turn cooldown, make the buffs 3 turns on himself and 2 turns on everyone else, then grant an extra turn. Then it won't feel bad spending a turn doing no damage (which is a personal pet peeve for champions like him and Tatura).
HOW DARE YOU YOU TAKE BELETAR OFF OF THAT LIST RIGHT LIST IMMEDIATELY.....use him for narses not ankora....They're the exact same champion but he has a team revive not a weak ass single revive. Look at his and ank9ras kit sometime and you're gonna laugh. Soooo much better. Pyxniel top 10. Everyone says Armaz is op......they do the same damn thing. Stun/freeze the entire team...but then what, he has a sheep. A frigging sheep...that's his kit op my ass. Pyxniel 100% freeze, heal, increas defense, 25% aoe weaken and a passive that stops any freeze on the whole team period, jakarls just takes off 10% freeze damage. 100% is a wee bit better than 10%....after getting Armanz I vaulted him after a week or so because his stun is the same thing as the freeze...after that Armanz really drops off unless you actually polymorph. It's funny cuz you all have him as the #1 most op champion ever....what does that make Pyxniel if she brings a ton of stuff armanz not so much and that is why I've been saying she one of the most op. Now everyone's used Armanz use Pyxniel she is soooo much better. Those will be the .most worthwhile books you've fed..Armanz is the shit version of Pyxniel 100% fact lol
Had a great time appreciate Collaboration it was a blast can’t wait till next time
Glad to see you on the channel dude!
Guess you can say this was a “fire” collab 😂
Loved the unique perspective mate. It was refreshing to hear another sound besides the same old things.
Yep 100%, cool to see differences in how they approach some of these champs. Not saying agreeing is bad, but u were ''stabbing'' Ash quite a few times, which was quite entertaining on its own. 😂
Just pulled my first void Lego in 7 months and it was Bellatar 😭😭
Finnaly a video that shows legos that I have
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Ash propping up lesser known CCs is what makes you so great, man. Truly.
Thanks man! I appreciate it :)
I like Blazin and subbed to him several months ago. He is pretty level headed and despite playing for a long time he seems to understand things from an aaverage players point of view. Good to see him doing a colab with you
Thanks for tuning in ;)
The thing that upset me the MOST about Lady of Ireth is that she was featured in the Call of the Arbiter. This made her seem like someone new and strong that would be a force in what was a relatively new faction at the time that was lacking in legendaries. I built her expecting her to finish my Sylvan Watchers Doom Tower and I replaced her with a level 50 Orm a few weeks later.
All these champions need a buff like yesterday.
I have the perfect idea! Space out minimal buffs over the course of many months and let the problem get more out of hand!
Crypt King Graal is pretty bad too. Deserved to be on this list.
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He can solo a bunch of bosses with his kit and comes with CC for waves.
I have had good luck with Adelyn(fully booked out, lvl 60 5 star) working with my geomancer. Her aura of +60 ACC really gives him a boost for someone without the best gear or champions.
fully booked? ouch.. you will regret that mate 🙈
other have 60 + acc too and are more usefull
Oof, I hope you're not f2p cause you'll regret those books
Bro literally wasted books lol
Use Drextar Bloodvin + 70 acc and don't need books
Woah. Dissing on my dude Opardin? Pair him with Senna for insane Hydra combos.
Lady Ireth, the mercy killer
Ya I have 3 of her sadly 😂😂😂
Loved the collab. Blazin is a cool guy and his Sunday Podcast The Knights of Taleria with other CC's is a great look at what's happening in Raid. Tune in live on YT or Twitch or watch the YT vid later but it's a good laugh and some good insights.
Thanks man! Glad you like it ;)
Guys, love both of your insights as hardcore vets in the game (which I am not), though it is so easy to see how much personal experience and varied play effects the 'usefulness' of the champs. Some different stat focus, some different sets used, some different quality of gear, are they booked yet or next in line. So many factors to change the mileage we get from these champs.
I have Lady of Ireth and Jagg both booked out and with partial masteries. They are both used on my FW 21 teams and easily pull their weight. I have used both of them in Sintranos rooms and at least 1 DT secret room. Lady of Ireth feels like she needed 1 more thing, like some form of revive option, turn meter boost or something to feel really good, or maybe like some kinda passive debuff removal like Doompriest, but she can do decent heals. Jagg I would love to invest in deeper, though I feel like other champs are slightly ahead in priority. Part of this problem to me is that he is pretty squishy as an attack based champ and I end up falling back on defensive and HP based damage dealers because they are so much more survivable. That said, I have a whole stack of attack based damage dealing champs further back in my priority list for the very same reason. The game seems to bottleneck them into this place where keeping them alive is just too damn complex.
One of my favorite things is finding the superpowers of single champs, and always love finding the CC who just loves generally pooped-on champs, pointing out some of their uses. This video alone shows so many just by itself, and I can just see one champ picked while the other cc is seething about the choice, lol. It's kinda like people arguing over which martial art is the best.
Edit: to add that the whole polymorph thing which is clearly a problem at some point, still barely effects me in the top half of Gold 5 Classic. I'm not sure at what point it becomes an overwhelming nuisance, but I haven't reached it, and I'm really thinking it shouldn't be the deciding factor in a champ's usefulness valuation by itself unless that champ is just otherwise useful only in arena. My 2 cents, but I might think that you 2 are playing way above the majority of your audience's level in a lot of areas.
Everytime I hear you do a collab im always hoping it's Drock. You two are just perfect together
Thanks for watching :)
Awesome colab guys! 2 of the nicest guys in the game. Can't believe nobody brought up Blind Seer!! Lol
Eh I feel like she just got power crept! She was pretty good back in the day :)
Thanks man! Means a lot ;)
Belletar was my second void leggo. First was Tramaria so I was dissatisfied with my luck. But I use him almost everywhere now. He brings so much to the teams, and he is one of my fav LA and CA teams. He enables both main dps I use (wukong and Ragash). He is great with wukong bc of all the revives as well
Honestly - all Narma needs is her A3 to be reduced to 2 or 3 turns (or perhaps 3 turns but 4 poisons or AoE), her A2 can stay the same, and make her A1 a multi-hit that extends all debuffs at a high % chance or conditional (such as every critical or when under poison sensitivity), and cut the number of books needed in half. Cause this kit can work - problem is a very similar kit is on an Epic you can earn - Dark Kael. Cause as an epic he has a 3 turn CD on a sensitivity with 2 poisons, A2 is conditional extend all debuffs on all enemies if he lands a crit with 3 turn CD, a triple hitter that can activate poisons - and a passive that basically makes it impossible for bosses to crit if there is 2 poisons on them, with about 2/3 of only epic books needed to max him. If I had a Wixwell team up and running, and could run 2 DPS or couldn't use Geo, it'd be Dark Kael who is in reflex gear and kinda insane with it, cause he's booked and all and Narma isn't.
Wurlim - honestly, because it's a thing now and wasn't when he was added, keep his A3 as is, change his A2 that he has decrease ACC and RES on the enemy and can't be resisted while increasing ACC and RES for your team, on a 3 turn, and make his A1 an AOE with a 50% chance of 1 turn freeze and just places the perfect veil regardless on champ with the lowest HP. Decrease ACC and RES - especially against some of the newer bosses - is extremely useful and to make it a no ACC skill makes it even better that they can't land stuff as easily but you can, as well as even some use in PvP potentially. But makes it easier to make teams around him that need less ACC and RES so you can build more damage - which his A3 then also helps because he's adding DEF and reducing damage - which paired with the one blessing also means he can take shield stacks off FK when he hits your team when they have the increase DEF up. And AoE freeze even at 50% chance - and while also buffing your res and lowering his ACC - would be of value against Bommel if he's the only one you got with freeze or even just a back up on top of his buffs. Even if they only did the A2 change I describe above I'd yank him out of the vault in a heartbeat to beat up on pretty much every boss - especially IT and Sand Devil seeing as even after being nerfed you still need 300 ACC or better vs IT at the top end apparently.
And at this point in time - I don't mind polymorph because I don't see it a ton, and I'm in the bottom end of Gold 5. The only pain I see there is these mythical heavy teams, stone skin (which I find 1000 times more annoying than the handful of polymorphs I've seen), or these people where my 299 speed Arbiter, as lead, with a 1 star 'Intimidating presence' on Armanz who's in the team - are running some none speed lead without intimidating presence and it's not even a close race how much faster they are than me cause they must have close to 500 speed without any kind of buff. It's also why I don't have an issue with Armanz who yes, I see a lot of and dealt with before I built mine - teams that would have beaten me before still beat me cause they have a ton of RES or are faster than me. Same way my Seer team would lose, same way my Rhazin/Kymar team would that basically did the same thing people do with Armanz. But I only do arena because I still need to try and build my GH 4 years in (cause those times Arena was really broken I got screwed hard, trying to build teams that can keep up has been an issue, and a forced break for about a year did not help) and because I need the bonus stats from where your placed to help my teams in other content. If I finished the GH and didn't think I needed the like 20% extra HP, ATK, and DEF - I'd bail on PvP entirely because honestly the entire design is garbage and comes down to who has the more broken champs with the biggest numbers. Raid would be 10x better if it was just a PvE game where 'PvP' was limited more to things like Hydra Clash and CvC - granted those need adjustments too.
I wouldn`t call Adelyn "fenomenal" but i certainly found a place for her in iron twins with a 5 star brimstone
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Not sure if it is because you guys just decided to not even build her, but how is the cow not in here? Easily one of the worst rated champs in the game.
Hey guys. Great video! So....I haven't touched love arena since a month after it launched. I'm in Gold 5 because of single man defenses. Polymorph isn't necessarily crazy at my ranking, however it's out of control. On thing about Poly I'll never understand, why'd they make Brimestone 'cleanse-able' outside of 6* but REFUSE to give Poly the same treatment to start to reel it in some! C'est la vie!
Had to take a break to do some chores outside in the Texas heat and chill with Ash. Thanks for the time for these vids, man! Good vibes and carry on.
Thanks Jesse! I appreciate it :)
*Hi Ash. You are right. Vergumkaar is a good champ, with good and important skills. Overall, he is very solid. I like him, too.*
*I wish to get him once😊* which set would you place him ? Please tell me.
Blazin is an awesome CC for Raid .. Love the Co-Lab :) Love both you guys +1 Blazin knows his champs...so great that he challenged Ash . I am in Gold V and polymorph is NOT an issue = never see it (classic arena) / Vergum is TRASH
Hey Ash ... I added this comment to your most recent video, cuase I need an answer. Does Bolster count as Sheild set for Wixwell??? Thanks for any answer.
Since Bolster is protected it can't be increased or have its duration increased. It can only be stripped by Seer as far as I know. I'm not sure if this is what you're asking about.
15:26 wythir and opardin good duo
As an arena defense for sure. If you don't have a crazy nuker, you wont get through those 2
@@Sam-uu2nx hydra?
@@Sam-uu2nx I build my wythir in 3 retaliation set to get stack more c.h
Throw in Senna in there with UDK unkillable.
I think orpadin with the new void lego dwarf that boost turn meter on continous heal for a lot of turn meter. I would love to try lady ereth with retaliation gears and accessories along oela in hydra. Spam continuous heal and turn meter and add 2 big dps to see it goes. That would be fun to see.
Great video guys, loving the Collab debates! Thanks! 8 months into the game and good to see what champs to avoid haha😅
Thanks man! Glad you like it ;)
I don't know what everyone says about Adeline, I wanted her for a specific HUGELY important team: SD.
I got her, built her, partially booked her and she gave me a 20" team. Plain and simple.
SD is the most important dungeon for me, so I am grateful I got her.
I love this so much. It's so great getting 2 CC opinions in the same video
Thanks man! glad you like it ;)
I drew Pyxniel as my first legendary. Is she not good as a freeze team? Yakarl and others? In arena im thinking
Tbh, polymorph affects me a lot even in the mid level account. My Leorius has become sheep so many times that literally changed the battle completely. And most of my opponents have 1 star blessings
that sausage dog.... i had to use 2 to clear a sin city stage and MAN this Damage is ASSS
So the support champ was cranking out enough deeps for ya? lol
Yo, Archer, Michinaki, and murder sausage is the best hydra support.
Pyxniel is dog water
ironicly they nerfed her before FK hard came out, She's be in alot of FK hard teams with her old kit
I drew her as my first leggo lol. Is she good as a freeze team in tag arena maybe? I want to find so e use for her. But Im defo not wasting tomes on her lol
I have a crap champ list but i have a 50 5 star Adelyn and im short on healers... so is she crap or could help my account? i wanna 60 her but everybody dooks on her. i dont have 100 leggos
14:31 I agree..but he on a heal team where heals become damage along wythir,and other continuous healers like epics and leggos,it can be a nice mechanic also if they add some leggonor mythical that can damage with healing it would be op ,like the name suggests opardin
That Belletar pick hurt my soul. He was my first void legendary and an absolute game changer. I've been able to progress so much further in every dungeon, including hard stages, doom tower hard, unm cb and I've almost fully 3* Ogryn faction because of him. Also, no one seems to mention that his passive works on ANY REVIVE, not just his own.
Dont forget thats Ash and all other Whales have nearly every champ, of some 3 or 4 copies. After one year i pulled 6 leggos, one of them Pyxiell and still No Void leggo. If IT helps you thats all you need. Work with what you have. Greetings
I think they mean if you have other options. As a first legendary any is going to be good. Except my first leggo. Pyxniel lol. I did get Bad El Kazar after though
What about considering the new blessings? I feel like the continiuous heal blessing on Opardin would be good
WOAH!! Brought back memories of a mage I had in EQ named Blazin Yurazz!
Narma the Returned was my second legendary I pulled. I still use her in iron twins and clan boss for spirit affinity specifically. In regen and good gear she solos iron twins 15
I like their comments, just use vrask or occult brawler..been playing for 4 years, still havent pulled either of those epics😂 the best champ to use is the one you have
Opardin is underrated, how dare you Blazin? 😂 he’s been great for me, especially with the new Nourish blessing… also have to agree with Ash about Cleo, polymorph isn’t really an issue for me in Gold V classic arena and Silver 3v3, and I don’t like Live Arena anyway but even when I do get on there I never use her 🤷🏽♂️
Lady of Ireth is such a waste of a sacred shard for me 😔
Great collab guys
Adelyn has saved my butt on F2P early midgame arena , DT, dungeons
Nice collab guys. Honestly as a top 50 arena player I still don't find polymorph that big of a deal. Sure it costs a few fights here and there but I due to the type of teams I run I find it kind of overrated and I don't use it on hardly anyone and don't fear it overly much.
I'd say personally I like Chronicler Adelyn, she's not amazing, but I built mine to about 85,000 power and she is usable pretty much everywhere. Faction wars, dragon, Iron Twins, Ice Golem, DT, Cursed City, etc. Not bad for a truly free champ that also we got 5 star awakenings for free as well, plus she takes very few books (haven't finished booking mine yet, she's down the list).
There are so many champs I don't use because I have a small set that I use for almost everything.
Same
Who is a good option to use since I don’t have Lydia I’m trying to find a good debuffer for my team
Try ingame filter. Hit the debuffs you're looking for and your game will tell you the Champions you have available.
Stag knight is always a good option
Hey, Gold III Live Arena f2p over here. and I still go up against speed teams with speed teams, my team usually has many debuffers, Mikage, Wukong, Robar, and Polymorph is not even the third on my list. my list of fears goes like this, 1. Armanz 2. Speed Arbiter 3. Speed Siphi, 4. They choose my Champs, since I don't have many. then comes Polymorph
Have you done a video showcasing skills with 2 turn cooldowns? Sethallia and black knight and Alika are great, and I’m sure there are plenty more that I can’t think of
I’ve been meaning to say this for a while but I’ve followed your UA-cam content the entire time and love the fall of fame from Scyl but also bringing in shade throwing clips …… out of principle you should do a “RETURN OF SCYL” video and pump her with your best gear.
I'm in Gold V and pretty much stay there arena I don't worry about polymorph one bit, I run the classic speed team, rarely, rarely, rarely, do I ever get polymorphed. Good video tho, thanks!
Gold 2 in live and tag, and gold v regular - I don't mind poly at all. You know what ticks me off in arena - Crowd control - A, most of my arena team is immune to poly (and the team I have that isn't seldom gets sheeped) but crowd control and lock out ruin the entire experience - it switches from playing a game to watching the worlds most sadistic cut scene - and Ash - I know you play in arena like this
Sadistic cut scene 😂😂😂😂 so true
Oh man im sorry if i met u once, i had armanz,nergigante archer and wukong with deacon on the same team once full time lockout 😅
This was great. Contrasting personalities and opinions. Very entertaining.
Thanks man! Glad you like it ;)
I use Cleo in my hydra team in a provoke set to help cover, plus a lot of dmg.
Cleo absolutely has value. She's power crept for sure but it's pretty wild to see her mentioned. My mention is Grohak. I've stacked 250 crit damage and 100 Crit rate with 5200 attack and he won't hit. The rest of his abilities are rare abilities. Sadly I've pulled 3 of him and have no idea what plarium was thinking, Mustve been drunk
*Hi Ash. Why is Cleopterix worse?? Please explain.*
Because, the title of this video is, the worst legendary champs.
*So all the champs which you showing shall be worse ??*
It can be, but i think there are 2, or 3 good champs which are not bad.
so happy to see this! Congrats Blazin!
Thanks for watching ;)
Interesting video...on your Live Area question...I don't really to Live Arena. Kept getting annihilated & my tender ego didn't survive. lol
I liked the disagreements, debates really should highlight more contrasted opinions
Blazin is the best , his shard openings are pure joy
Love his shard opening videos LOL every time
"And if you're not booking her, what're you gonna do with her...* Oh, Ash... mate, I have so many champions for which I don't have books and are on a year long waiting-list.
Half the champions I use extensively are only partially booked or not at all. Its just an unsustainable thing with how many champions there are.
Hey ash,i just got Mathias Blackfaith from a ancient shard....was i lucky or is he trash??
Depends on how hard he hits
Pyxniel was the first legendary I pulled, and pretty much my only one for a while. I booked her, because I really needed her at the time, but it's still depressing looking at how much I had to invest in her to get her to even decent. It's a shame, because she looks amazing and has potential. Cut the books needed and buff her numbers, and she'd be good.
this is the constructive debates im here for
I'll be that one person then - I don't mind polymorph. I'm late game, essentially F2P (spent $50 over my first year). Gold 5 normal arena, Silver 3-4 in tag, silver 3 live.
Polymorph gives a chance against teams that otherwise would auto-kill me. Power values aren't a good approximation of what a team can do, and I usually have to fight in tag team against things that I have to guess if I have a shot against it. At least with polymorph, I can SEE that it's coming before the fight starts (unlike stoneskin, speed, damage output, etc where I just have to guess).
Personally, I'm a lot more bothered by them never raising the player limits in tag team, despite the base growing.
I just leveled Adelyn to 60 (unbooked) and she has 64K power with her 5-star soul. I put her in all perception gear and she has 423 ACC, 199 speed, 198 RES, 64K HP and around 3200 ATK and DEF. The speed and RES aren't good for arena but are good for just about every other content and she is tanky AF. I also think her ability to steal and transfer defbuffs on A1 is underrated, there are definitely times where she cheeses enemies by stealing things like block debuffs or revive on death. Definitely B tier and if you are f2p only pulling a few leggos a year and sitting on books then she is probably worth booking while you are waiting to pull your next leggo.
i use martyr as leader. paired with torrux. adelyn . chonoru and my fav temptress. i have no clue about this type of game and never watched a video about it. even started up without a invite code . i just use these because i like the combo. got heiress too she is still just a bit weak compared to the others unless we play with spider.
Agree with you on Narma. The 6th leggo I pulled and only one I do not use
Thanks for watching ;)
Ftp here...i got 4 of these narma, opadin and chronic, cleo . Yall are right....I dont build those garbage
The number of books that Pyxniel uses is a warning sign. Even worse when you see there are 4 powers to randomize across...
I like the colab, but my mind is a bit blown by the man saying that ANY champ is squishy because it was getting creamed in the Sin-Hard double Taras/Marichka room. That's just... wow... I'ma be strait right here and now... if the standard of "squishy" is that double Taras/Marichka blows them up, then nearly every champion in Raid is squishy.
I your point is valid. That was the first time I ever used him, but I may have to give him a fair shot somewhere else and do a full showcase to see exactly what he can do. Thanks for the idea.
Adelyn at B is lunacy to me 🤣 good video
finally u find the right man! he got best understanding on raid.
Thanks for watching, Tony!
I agree w blazin on g1 or g2 arena being fine. But if i get to g5 or do live on my lv65 account im mostly dealing with stoneskin and rarely a polymorph problem. But i also run high resistance teams so thats probably why i dont notice it. But its mostly ppl having Mythicals and Siphis and stoneskin nukers
I do agree to a point about adelyne the five start soul does help her do things that surprised me she is better than i expected her to be and Pixniel is not book worthy.
Adelyn is great for non geo iron twins teams too. 🤷🏻♂️ especially with the 5 star brimstone
Chronicler Adolin is very strong for Sand Devil. The combo of decrease speed + sleep is one of a kind. I'm late game and she's the best sleep option on my account.
Jagg isn't bad - you just have to not think of him as a nuker but more as a support that can do pretty good damage. His passive stops bosses from Criting you, his turn meter control on his A1 (Like Drake's cough cough) is great utility especially when the double hit procs, and on top of that he can throw back debuffs for Dragon and spread debuffs in Spider or strip buffs in Arena or annoying wave content. Total swiss army knife even if he doesn't completely slap - not that his damage is bad at all!
A day late dollar short, I pulled Lady of Ireth last week and it broke my heart. I was like what the hell can I do with her. The new blessing was good for her and still she feel like Doo Doo.
Adelyn is the only legendary I have. I started playing while that event was going on so I got her on day 14. I almost didn't even do anything with her because of how bad her reviews were. But I am so grateful that I decided to use her. She's one of my best champions. I use her everywhere.
I wish I could meet someone who could give me some advice on the game. So far I have Kael, High Khatun, Morag, reliquary tender and apothecary 5 star. I was going to make Magnarr 5 star next but I have a few other good epics and I don't know who I should evolve first. I just pulled Akemtum the other day and he's awesome. I also use Venomage, Zargala and Hoskarul. I have a handful of other epics that I'm not sure about. A couple that I'm probably going to use for food. Plus I have a few rares that I like to use like Theurgist, Marquess, Judge and war priest. Plus I have several that I have seen on this channel that are supposed to be good like Abyssal and Felhound. And a few other ones.
So many champions that it's a bit overwhelming and so much to do that I don't feel like I'm progressing very quickly. I saw a video the other that said that you need Armiger. So I got him too. I just wish I could show what I have to someone so that they could tell me what I need to work on. Lol
Oh and should I build a 2nd? Morag? Maybe for tag team arena? I got a dupe but I don't need any skill ups. Or should I just use her as food?
I started my raid adventure in January of this year. I haven't been offline except to sleep ever since. I love/hate this game with a passion but can't put it down. We need a aa for raid bro.
jagg bnesaw if 5 stars for arena, you can easilly put him over 600 ac because he boost himself with 50% acc at the beginning of his turn, this mean that you can debuff even most of support guys. So you can put him in precision, target a bit over 400ac, and focus on dammage and speed . he will be a phenomenal debuffer. Mine has attc % on boots, he nukes and debuff. I admit he needs end game stuff to be great, but if you build him good, he s a must. I use him with Armanz in leed, Elva for support and Initwhe, this team is super fun and works as good as sun wukong. Guys if you have good studd Jagg is your man
Man, if Plarium actually made the change for Wurlim of decrease crit damage to decrease att. He would be a monster of a champ.
im confused why ADELYN is ranked so low by everyone i maxed her out put some good gear on her and she is fucking doing damage helping my healer a lot she is way UNDER RATED
She is terrible lol
@@l3loodR4IN Not for everyone as you can clearly read.
@skorpion7132 because she is terrible. There are probably about 50 champs in the game that does what she does. And better lol. If you built her out I feel sorry for you. Like everytime I see her in arena I laugh. Plarium bait worked
I mean, if she works for you, use her.. but yeah, she isn't the best... I am a sucker, I go for all frag champs... smh.. I'm a chump.
"No i dont mind polymorph"
wake up to reality
IT SUCKS
Belletar was my first and only void legendary. I think he's pretty good. pair him with wukong and their good on hydra and Arena
Disagree with Chronicle Adel. She definitely improved my run in Sand Devil. Have her in a relentless set & perception & with decent speed and a solid ACC amount. No books, I’m F2P and can’t afford books like that 😅 but it’s definitely pushed me further there.
The best buff they can give to Pyxniel is literally reducing the book she needs..... and refund those people who has booked her, the epic who does freeze and inc speed is literally 100% better than her XD
I recently pulled opardin clanfather. His kit looked interesting for hydra. Glad i didnt waste my time
Great to see a collab and "debate," but next time get a moderator. Love you, Ash, but you gotta leave more space for your guest and not provide aside commentary as the conversation is going on. I get the excitement but you have to let the format flow. I hope to see more collabs because the community needs more back and forth and not just feeding Plarium money. Ps ...the people's champ IS JGIgs, and CCs need to recognize the Bro. He does the best content in this game.
Blazin has my sub, great video guys
Thanks man! Glad you like it :)
Before people start jumping onto the bandwagon and say Mezomel is underwhelming, put her in full slayer gear and put her in classic/live arena. My Mezomel has only 6800 atk and 305 cd, but she pretty much one shots siphis, udks, and pythions through their defense buffs at full health 98/100 times. When they survive, they are alone with enough health for my other champs to easily pick off.
She is the perfect counter for Leorius and anyone using swift parry since she rips through unkillable. Only the tankiest champs that even a monstrous Taras can't A2 snipe will survive Mezomel's a2 on her 2nd form.
Not all mythicals are OP damagers in both forms. In fact, i don't think there is any. Each forms have different purposes. Mezomel's first form is primarily used to pick off the nukers (except Taras. Everyone has a problem one-shotting Taras 😂) and preventing them from reviving. Her 2nd form is to one-shot clear the rest of the team leaving behind only the stone skin champs.
There are no mythicals that can one-shot a stone skin champ in a single turn. However, Mezomel is one of two champs that has the potential to take out stone skin champs as long as they don't have 130k health that even a Taras or a Georgid might have problems one-shotting.
Mezomel is a solid arena and dungeon/dt champ. I use her everywhere and she brings the pain wherever she goes. Sure...i'd like her A2 in first form have a higher multiplier. But it's not a problem leaving a single lone reviver/udk to survive because regardless of enemy team being revived, your team still has the turn advantage to win the match and Mezomel's A1 in second form hits hard enough to pick everyone off again including the surviving reviver/udk anyways. If the tank has a debuff such as decrease defense on them, it's very rare for my Mezomel to fail one-shotting tanks. She can do 65k-85k dmg on my account per hit with debuffs on so only in niche cases where they have other passive dmg mitigation do they survive her A2 in 1st form.
Opardin helped me in Nightmare Campaign, but I never used him after that. I also have Maranix in my vault.
Thanks for tuning in ;)
This was a really solid colab. Good soup.
Thanks man! Glad you like it ;)
great collab, nice to see suchdifferent views sometimes xD
Thanks man! Glad you like it :)
Adelyn is a beast, honestly. I saw the ratings and questioned it until she started soloing.
ever since ronda came out, seems been my go to for like 99% of my raid games. i swear if they has most played stats on raid my ronda would be atleast atleaaast 98% of most legend used haha
Lady of Ireth was my primal mercy.. Fun times. Opardin is alot better, but they have the same problem. They don't do anything in the turn you use them. alot of the time when i bring a healer, i want to be able to get my nuker to survive to do another nuke and clear the wave/boss, unfortunately heals over time kits are at a resource deficit, bad action economy. You use an action, that does nothing right now, and it might do something the next time someone does an ability, but does not interact with enemies or allies until then.. just awkward.
Gold 3 Live Arena. Ash actually kicked my butt... But, more than Polymorph, Armanz has broken Live arena. He's 100% picked, and I would say 90% first picked. and it makes the mode super unenjoyable now.
For normal arena, I don't think Polymorph is a big deal, you'll only notice it when you try to climb to platinum or live arena, but for every player in gold 5 and below in classic arena, Polymorph is pretty non-existance and barely a problem... tho it's abig problem in Live arena since everyone is running their main Live arena champion with it
love the collabs
even with this dude idek
Finally somebody brings the truth about Vergumkaar to Ash. Blazin got my sub just for this.
I think Wurlim should have his A3 turned back into a 4 turn cooldown, make the buffs 3 turns on himself and 2 turns on everyone else, then grant an extra turn. Then it won't feel bad spending a turn doing no damage (which is a personal pet peeve for champions like him and Tatura).
Surprised to see that Roric, Grohak and Harvester Jack aren't listed as worst leggos.
as someone who uses a geargrinder for ogryn FW, I wouldn't mind a beletar mage slayer at all.
HOW DARE YOU YOU TAKE BELETAR OFF OF THAT LIST RIGHT LIST IMMEDIATELY.....use him for narses not ankora....They're the exact same champion but he has a team revive not a weak ass single revive. Look at his and ank9ras kit sometime and you're gonna laugh. Soooo much better. Pyxniel top 10. Everyone says Armaz is op......they do the same damn thing. Stun/freeze the entire team...but then what, he has a sheep. A frigging sheep...that's his kit op my ass. Pyxniel 100% freeze, heal, increas defense, 25% aoe weaken and a passive that stops any freeze on the whole team period, jakarls just takes off 10% freeze damage. 100% is a wee bit better than 10%....after getting Armanz I vaulted him after a week or so because his stun is the same thing as the freeze...after that Armanz really drops off unless you actually polymorph. It's funny cuz you all have him as the #1 most op champion ever....what does that make Pyxniel if she brings a ton of stuff armanz not so much and that is why I've been saying she one of the most op. Now everyone's used Armanz use Pyxniel she is soooo much better. Those will be the .most worthwhile books you've fed..Armanz is the shit version of Pyxniel 100% fact lol