Man, I really wish the PC/console version had some of the visual flair of the mobile version's UI. All the stylistic and animated flourishes are so nice looking, without being too distracting.
The important things from these level maps in retail are rare crafting materials that still go for a lot of gil. Can't help but notice there was no icon representing them.
Seeing all these animation improvements, animations for FREAKING slide casting!!!, better lighting and quality of life options brings me to the question - what has CBU3 and Square been doing all those years with FF14? Where are those things in the OG? I know the engine is old, but adding some animations can't be that hard...
As someone who never did treasure maps in retail, I love this- I honestly just forget they exist. I’m super interested to see how these QoL updates will end up affecting PC, I wonder if anything is already in development given how far along mobile is or whether community pressure might encourage some updates in future. It definitely feels far more modern and high quality compared to retail UI (not to mention the better glamour system, maps etc)
@@mitchellradspinner4491 May have to do with all the fantasitc QoL that mobile game has. But I'm hoping with 7.2 onward we get those QoL in PC/Console!
@@mitchellradspinner4491because the qol changes we have been demanding for over decade now exist in the mobile version Glams being stored automatically as you unlock so no dresser or armoire is needed Also accessible anywhere even in a duty Or how much easier to navigate the ui in general is Or how mounts work
The UI/UX certainly looks better with a lot of thought put into it and a fair amount of the animations feel more impactful (plus movement is nicer too). Honestly, apart from that though, overall retail is a lot better visually, especially since Dawntrail with the graphical fidelity updates that came with it. Though I argue retail can still look better and SE needs to keep those graphical updates coming, but that's just me 🤷
Because Square Enix provided assets for the graphical update to the third party mobile team ahead of its implementation in the base game. Which they've admitted having done so. In 7.1 we got the area and zone updates for ARR and they said we'll start to see gear being updated to the new materials in batches from 7.2 onward.
@@iArcanex The graphical updates are still coming, they'll be ongoing into 8.X and 7.1 updated lighting in every piece of instanced content as well as updated all ARR towns and zones to Dawntrail's graphical fidelity and item density; aside from Gold Saucer, Mor Dhona, Coerthas; as they were done in 7.0. If you haven't recently, I would encourage going through every ARR zone and checking out the updates, some of them are utterly insane and make zones look completely different, like Bronze Lake and Western Thanalan, for example. Retail will look better throughout all of 7.X and will look even better by the time they finish the graphical update in 8.X. It's just gonna be a long haul until we actually get there.
@ Yeah I heard, honestly there are parts that still feel outdated and desaturated to me, which I feel pulls this game down a notch. I'm hoping the graphical updates they promised to come include updates to animations/locomotion and the zone refreshes terraform existing areas to have more verticality with an increase of entities across the map so it feels more lived in, however I don't think they'll go that route.
I don't really like this, tbh (the radar). Map scouting was like, one of the few unique parts of maps, this just kind of kills it. It makes a bit of sense on mobile because there's less space on the screen to have both the map + the minimap up, but this isn't something I'd want on retail.
Funny how yet again, several of these mobile features are shit we have add-ons for that would get your account suspended if caught. SE truly could never, it seems.
I love the changes to maps in mobile, really hope they come to retail. though not very fond of the idea of having to get lucky on a solo map to get a team map.
This is just like when destiny 2 got a mobile game… just making the mobile version better… why do I even care to play the main game anymore when the mobile version has stuff the main game should implement but won’t
@@Hitsugix pretty sure SE themselves have never said this as an excuse for anything. This a fan narrative, that I guess now other fans are getting upset at.
If you understand how coding works, then yes, the spaghetti code is the issue. They're using the same engine from 2013 that they scrambled to pull together after the initial launch of XIV failed. The amount of technical debt this engine has puts Bungie's Tiger Engine to shame I assure you. Implementing even small items onto the maps most likely takes them days to do simply due to the sheer amount of technical debt the engine has, where one minor change to a menu somewhere causes hundreds of other things to break completely.
I haven't played the game for months probably, but I'm still subbed because of the housing system. Keep hearing good news about Mobile ff14 and how better it is than the actual game, makes me want to unsub. all of those funding goes to other projects than the actual game. (still mad on how little the voice acting in MSQ and story quality)
I definitely feel your pain on this, but do know that SE isn't doing this, Tencent bought the IP rights and are making it themselves, so no funding is going from SE to Tencent for this. Tencent actually gave money to SE. I do know what you mean about SE making other games instead of just investing in their current biggest and most needing MMO, though.
@@Paraguai123 the point is that they implement it on the mobile version. the mobile version is becoming a better version of the actual games because they steal from modder of the actual games .
If it's not using the same code it's not stolen and don't the addon creators make those things because they want it in the actual game? I know many addon creators have come out saying they're happy when their ideas get added to retail so console players can also enjoy the features (reminder that 50% of FFXIV's players are not on PC, especially in japan where most play on console). And it's not like some of the addons are super novel hard to come up with ideas. A lot of the QoL addons are just ideas many regular devs would come up with too (reminder that the mobile version isn't made by Square Enix).
If this keeps going on, we might really get people to petition for remaking XIV to get rid of all the old netcode problems and more, seeing how this Mobile take on it does just that. I wouldn't even disagree outside the fact it would take years to rebuild full XIV
The effort and cost involved would necessitate the end of current development for multiple years effectively making it a dead game to many. At the point they were going to remake XIV they’d just make a new mmo.
@@VForceWave They're not incompetent, they didn't create the spaghetti code but are the ones having to try and work around it.. Spaghetti code also exists in all games and every game has limitations because of it.
What are you even talking about the content has been amazing and production value is clearly higher and the DT has the most content out of any expansion lined up during its life cycle.
I still can't get over the fact they've essentially ported the entirety of ARR to mobile with minimal compromise. And actually some improvements
😂😂 yeah
Probably built from the ground up and therefore free from all the spaghetti code
@@cosmosofinfinity true I don't like about it is some skill job animation is not the same as main game like bard, white mage, 😅 kinda rip off
I hope they implement a lot of these QoL things into the PC/Console version....
in 10 years because small indie team
We're getting cooked by a mobile game...
Crazy...
Nobody here mentioning the fact that you can stack maps in your inventory, that's a huge change
such a dream mmo for mobile, i cant wait fr
Man, I really wish the PC/console version had some of the visual flair of the mobile version's UI. All the stylistic and animated flourishes are so nice looking, without being too distracting.
I had to turn on subtitles to figure out that Haps was saying "boarskin maps" and not instead what I was hearing.
Hmmm that would make a really small map..... A map for ants perhaps
😂
The important things from these level maps in retail are rare crafting materials that still go for a lot of gil. Can't help but notice there was no icon representing them.
Seeing all these animation improvements, animations for FREAKING slide casting!!!, better lighting and quality of life options brings me to the question - what has CBU3 and Square been doing all those years with FF14? Where are those things in the OG? I know the engine is old, but adding some animations can't be that hard...
As someone who never did treasure maps in retail, I love this- I honestly just forget they exist. I’m super interested to see how these QoL updates will end up affecting PC, I wonder if anything is already in development given how far along mobile is or whether community pressure might encourage some updates in future.
It definitely feels far more modern and high quality compared to retail UI (not to mention the better glamour system, maps etc)
The more I watch this the more I think they put more work on their mobile version over the PC/Console version.
The more i see of ff14 mobile the angrier i get
Why?
@@mitchellradspinner4491 May have to do with all the fantasitc QoL that mobile game has. But I'm hoping with 7.2 onward we get those QoL in PC/Console!
@@mitchellradspinner4491 because they should be using that funding to fix the non-mobile game instead
@@mitchellradspinner4491because the qol changes we have been demanding for over decade now exist in the mobile version
Glams being stored automatically as you unlock so no dresser or armoire is needed
Also accessible anywhere even in a duty
Or how much easier to navigate the ui in general is
Or how mounts work
@@mitchellradspinner4491 probably because they get all the QoL players have asked for ages, but they put a tiny bit every expac
This game is beautiful
So it is basically a Globetrotter plugin from the big game
How come this even look visually better than retail ?
The UI/UX certainly looks better with a lot of thought put into it and a fair amount of the animations feel more impactful (plus movement is nicer too). Honestly, apart from that though, overall retail is a lot better visually, especially since Dawntrail with the graphical fidelity updates that came with it. Though I argue retail can still look better and SE needs to keep those graphical updates coming, but that's just me 🤷
Because Square Enix provided assets for the graphical update to the third party mobile team ahead of its implementation in the base game. Which they've admitted having done so. In 7.1 we got the area and zone updates for ARR and they said we'll start to see gear being updated to the new materials in batches from 7.2 onward.
@@iArcanex The graphical updates are still coming, they'll be ongoing into 8.X and 7.1 updated lighting in every piece of instanced content as well as updated all ARR towns and zones to Dawntrail's graphical fidelity and item density; aside from Gold Saucer, Mor Dhona, Coerthas; as they were done in 7.0. If you haven't recently, I would encourage going through every ARR zone and checking out the updates, some of them are utterly insane and make zones look completely different, like Bronze Lake and Western Thanalan, for example.
Retail will look better throughout all of 7.X and will look even better by the time they finish the graphical update in 8.X. It's just gonna be a long haul until we actually get there.
@ Yeah I heard, honestly there are parts that still feel outdated and desaturated to me, which I feel pulls this game down a notch. I'm hoping the graphical updates they promised to come include updates to animations/locomotion and the zone refreshes terraform existing areas to have more verticality with an increase of entities across the map so it feels more lived in, however I don't think they'll go that route.
I don't really like this, tbh (the radar). Map scouting was like, one of the few unique parts of maps, this just kind of kills it. It makes a bit of sense on mobile because there's less space on the screen to have both the map + the minimap up, but this isn't something I'd want on retail.
Funny how yet again, several of these mobile features are shit we have add-ons for that would get your account suspended if caught.
SE truly could never, it seems.
Here we are on PC having to use plugins for very basic QoL that should have been added in the game years ago.
I almost choked to death thinking you said 4skin maps, boar skin omg. great video, I'm excited to play FF14 again
Unless I missed it, it looks like there is no time-limit on maps in the mobile version
i can get new players not knowing maps exist, but how do older players not know of its existence..?
I keep hearing "fore" instead of "boar" and that makes me feel dirty listening to this.
I still spiritbond because I collect the scrolls from my squad each week.
As someone who does zero hunts and rarely does roulettes, I do get most of my materia through spiritbonding
I love the changes to maps in mobile, really hope they come to retail. though not very fond of the idea of having to get lucky on a solo map to get a team map.
I can’t wait for ffxiv mobile ❤❤
I hope main ffxiv ui/ux gets completely overhauled to be more like ffxiv mobile's. The ui is so damn clunky and outdated.
People in the comments still think SE is behind this and making it ...
People still think Square only has one team working on all their games. Ofcourse they think square is directly developing this- people are dumb.
it really sets an example though.
Yeah square Enix just supervise
手游的一些功能比PC还好才离谱
Have you shown how the marketboard looks like in mobile yet? I feel like the marketboard is really outdated in pc. I hope it gets an update.
"im sorry but we don't have the recourses currently to implement such features" - please look forward to bite sized uninteresting content soon .
"please look forward to invisible viera and hrothgar headgear"
This is just like when destiny 2 got a mobile game… just making the mobile version better… why do I even care to play the main game anymore when the mobile version has stuff the main game should implement but won’t
I can’t wait for SE to say they can’t implement this in the actual game because of the spaghetti code
It is truly ridiculous how frequently ye olde spaghetti code excuse comes up. Quite convenient.
@@Hitsugix pretty sure SE themselves have never said this as an excuse for anything. This a fan narrative, that I guess now other fans are getting upset at.
@@Envinyon they didnt say spaghetti but blamed the code several times, dont take everything literally
If you understand how coding works, then yes, the spaghetti code is the issue. They're using the same engine from 2013 that they scrambled to pull together after the initial launch of XIV failed. The amount of technical debt this engine has puts Bungie's Tiger Engine to shame I assure you. Implementing even small items onto the maps most likely takes them days to do simply due to the sheer amount of technical debt the engine has, where one minor change to a menu somewhere causes hundreds of other things to break completely.
Never been this early before, never woke up this early either tbf
And the haters said its goona be a pay to win, gacha, auto they wrong 😂😂❌ haaaaaaa
why even bother playing ff14 when a mobile version is better
As doompost as this comment might be, it's the sad truth...
even the mobile jobs look more engaging than the main game because of how they got butchered
@@ek9750 when different animations are enough to trick you into thinking the jobs are different
@@Envinyoni don't know man the mobile version dragoon plays way more different than the pc version
Because I don’t want to play ARR exclusively?
Dammm 😂 when they goona global release it??
I am just disappointed that they chose to stick with the newer SMN combat style. I miss when your pet actually fought alongside you.
@@danielhovey1977 true 🤣 I like the older version thou I hate carbuncle
I am hopeful that FFXIV is under major construction behind the scenes. It needs a lot of work to stay competitive.
I wouldn't bet on that.
I haven't played the game for months probably, but I'm still subbed because of the housing system. Keep hearing good news about Mobile ff14 and how better it is than the actual game, makes me want to unsub. all of those funding goes to other projects than the actual game. (still mad on how little the voice acting in MSQ and story quality)
I definitely feel your pain on this, but do know that SE isn't doing this, Tencent bought the IP rights and are making it themselves, so no funding is going from SE to Tencent for this. Tencent actually gave money to SE. I do know what you mean about SE making other games instead of just investing in their current biggest and most needing MMO, though.
Heard mobile version doesnt have snapshot and the netcode is better... thats just sad se main game lacks that severely
mobile runs better than regular consoles lmfaooooo
I love when addon creators get punished for making the game better and then squenix steals their shit
A lot of ffxiv is actually add-ons from windower for xi, stolen from those creator's as well.
"STOLEN" he says while also complaining that Square Enix doesn't implement those mods to the game.
@@Paraguai123 the point is that they implement it on the mobile version. the mobile version is becoming a better version of the actual games because they steal from modder of the actual games .
If it's not using the same code it's not stolen and don't the addon creators make those things because they want it in the actual game?
I know many addon creators have come out saying they're happy when their ideas get added to retail so console players can also enjoy the features (reminder that 50% of FFXIV's players are not on PC, especially in japan where most play on console).
And it's not like some of the addons are super novel hard to come up with ideas. A lot of the QoL addons are just ideas many regular devs would come up with too (reminder that the mobile version isn't made by Square Enix).
@LZ02-OVERTURE what addon are you talking about ? You seem to ignore SE bans everything mods in the actual game
If this keeps going on, we might really get people to petition for remaking XIV to get rid of all the old netcode problems and more, seeing how this Mobile take on it does just that. I wouldn't even disagree outside the fact it would take years to rebuild full XIV
The effort and cost involved would necessitate the end of current development for multiple years effectively making it a dead game to many. At the point they were going to remake XIV they’d just make a new mmo.
"they can't fix the game because of spaghetti code they said " we all know it's bullshit now
It’s built by a different team on a different engine so… it may well be correct
Those who wants to see a healing gameplay ua-cam.com/video/ez59m0B7bUk/v-deo.htmlsi=zQ3AwTjqaUICU7nL , took me time to find one
So this is where all the money and effort has been going…. Pfft…
The best part is this is from a separate development team. So PC sucks because they're just incompetent
@@VForceWave So Squenix didn't give them money? Must have been a good deal.
@@VForceWave They're not incompetent, they didn't create the spaghetti code but are the ones having to try and work around it.. Spaghetti code also exists in all games and every game has limitations because of it.
What are you even talking about the content has been amazing and production value is clearly higher and the DT has the most content out of any expansion lined up during its life cycle.
@@MarcusMaybenot Hahaha good one.