- supervises hired idiots - releases bs game - no one buys it - toxic positivity - Bioware ruined - gets huge paycheck - leaves CB: "My work here is done. Lol."
I still don't see this as a win or a victory. The victory would have been to have a good Dragon Age game after waiting for 10 years. And instead we got the destruction of our beloved franchise. This hurts even more after seeing the Artbook with the original story.
Corinne won in the end. She destroyed a famed series, loved by many. These freaks said they would come for our games, and they did a lot of damage. All i can pray for now is a new gaming crash, and hopefully resets for the better.
What is Mass Effect 5? Lol! Honestly, I believe that the only remains will be fragmented on a hard drive on a former employee's terminal and long forgotten.
What's interesting is when most of the writing team last year was laid off before release, the assumption was that whoever was left over is why the writing is so bad. It's actually the opposite, Mary Kirby wrote Lucanis as an outlet for her coffee obsession, Kristjanson may have wrote Baldur's Gate 1 but he also wrote Sera and Liam. Weekes is the worst of them all, to go from a character like Mordin or Solas to their vanity project/mouthpiece in Taash. The team was doomed from the start, experience doesn't necessarily mean quality. I used to idolise BioWare, but I've been waiting for EA to put it out of its misery since Andromeda. Can't wait.
That artbook was depressing. The stuff for Dread Wolf looked awesome, enough for an epic game and some expansions. Then you get to Veilguard itself and it's...ugh.
BioWare's time has passed. There's no need to shed tears for it; the company you loved is not what it is today and it hasn't been the company you've loved for a very long time. This California Groupthink spells disaster wherever it goes and it's better to just let it go than to sustain it further. A creative endeavor cannot be done via committee and all of the visionaries left ages ago. It happens, especially when there are no proteges and only pretenders to take their place.
Corrine Busche leaving EA is great news all around, but I’m most disappointed that this happened now and not back while Veilguard was still in development. She gave us the shitshow that was Veilguard and then dipped, regardless of whether that was her decision or not. It doesn’t matter how many times she or her supporters tell us that she was given the role of director because she was “qualified,” we have eyes and can read, and her past body of work says otherwise. Yeah, she most likely wasn’t the only one responsible for the bad quality of the game, but she was one of the people in charge of it. And of course, she is only one person who is part of the bigger issue at play in the gaming industry.
The post on Andrew Busche... I mean Corinne Busche leaving Biohazard.... I mean Bioware was the best thing to wake up to. I couldn't stop laughing for about 20 to 30 minutes.
I didn't get that far in veilguard - kind of a heartbreaking experience because it's my favorite game series. After seeing this art book stuff I'm not even sure I'll finish it, even out of curiosity. I think the only thing that can save Dragon Age now is if some cool studio with good devs (like Larian) buys the IP and pick up the torch. And use time magic from DAI to reverse that disaster to make a proper Dragon Age Dreadwolf this time. But that would be a miracle I can only wish for. And as the saying goes, wish in one hand, and shit in the other - see which one fills up first.
I've read comments where people proposed it was bad fan fiction from Cassandra, Sera or Scout Harding as read by Varric. This would explain Varric's narration of Veilguard even though he was dead most of the game. I like the idea that the real Dreadwolf would begin with Varric gently trying to critique this bad writing. I am leaning for Sera as the writer, since she has a thing for big Qunari women.
25:50 Spidderman lol That sounds like a name I would see on a Law Office. "Thank you for calling Spidderman & Bueller. Do you have an ongoing litigation effort that we may assist with? If so, press 1!"
While I am happy that she is gone, it’s just too late. The DA series has been tainted because of this game. One of the biggest disappointments for so many of us. The studio is not going to survive.
I never want to put the death of BioWare on a single person but they really didn't help the steep decline. If anyone from Veilguard is brought over to Mass Effect 5 it will most likely have the same result and might official kill BioWare? Do we officially know the development budget cause if I was a head at EA and that 200 million is true and it couldn't sell around 2 million copies (from what I've heard) I think it might be finically smart to just close/sell off the studio?
DAV was a clusterfuck and that dude had no idea what he was doing. DAV will be the biggest flop in Biowares history. I heard that game costed them like 250 mil to 300 mil to make, they got about 1m copies sold. If one game cost 60 bux, and the buget was 250 mil - 300 mil. They need to get 4,17 mil - 5 mil units sold, just to brake even.
If EA is wise, they should pull out DATVG out of steam and whatever platform and pretend that that game never existed and hired real gamer ppl that actually respecting the lore, the gore and continue DA from inquisition if they want to save DA. At this point the new shitty lore reboot will never work. DA is dead unless they remove veilguard completely out of this world.
They need to pretend it never happened. Although I doubt they'll do that. Or touch the IP ever again. It's a sinking ship. It doesn't matter how many they make, if they don't change the formula they'll be throwing money down the drain.
also adding onto my "got All the dragonage games for $15, since Australia's dollar is the currency equivalent of actual dirt when not on sale the whole series (Sans failhard because it deserves to rot in the grave it dug and I usually avoid trash games) is around $130 or so dollars with Inquisition going for $50 and Origins and 2 for $40 each, seeing 50 Dollery doos going down to $7.50 is absolutely insane, that is the same cost as COOKIE CLICKER.
I also think that pushing all this woke crap into games, is insulting to the customer base as it suggests that the industry sees the customers as in need of educating.
What would you think about a video of Sera, not just as a character but her reception. I notice that she not generally liked by fans. Or maybe she is misunderstood? I never know where I stand on her. There are times when I like her and others not so much. I do think she might be worthy of some analysis.
Soooo, what are we betting that she was "Firmly Invited To Leave Quietly With a Large Cheque" rather than leaving voluntarily? I'd put money on it. That's EXACTLY the kind of letter someone writes when they've been told very politely to 'fuck off or get fired", so they can still get good references. The only thing I'm surprised at is Ser Weeks is still employed, since (IMO) his portrayal of Taash and Isabela actually did worse for the game's reception than Busche's shitty management.
I would say it's mostly something that happens with gringos, but maybe I'm biased. I say that because as a bisexual who knows a lot of gays, no one swallows the flag in companies. I like that there are romance options, it gives me more to write about when I do head canons, but not that they force romance or orientation, that's EVERY person's choice. You don't have to force that choice. It's stupid. It's a roleplaying game, why are you taking away my choice?
The person who says "It's not both sides, it's the woke vs gamers" is correct. YOU might not like it, but that's just reality. In fact, I will do you one better, "It's not both sides, it's the casuals vs the gamers". There, it holds true still. Remember, a lot of the people pushing for these things, which ruins games, in a different time, would have been the people picking on the nerds, the geeks, your gamers, and just your outcast in general. And why I say that is that when you take a look at the trend, all the stuff which ends up destroying games and making it trash, all got pushed when these niche hobbies go mainstream. It was that with comic books, then it was that with D&D, then your Warhammer, then your games, then your manga and animes. Give these people enough time and they will infiltrate everything and destroy it. A good example would be the queen of grift, Anita Sarkeesian. She lied her way into getting donations by selling herself one way, but when you see all that she has said and done, she literally admits to not being a gamer. And you can say I misquote her on that or twist her words, but when you see what she does or says, it's impossible not to take it for what it is. Down to it, both the companies and these entitled people who wants to only see themselves in fiction, the only thing that happens when you give them an inch, when you refuse to draw the line, is they take a country mile. We've seen that with horse armour from Oblivion, which transformed into microtransactions. Always online which translated to only online. "Cosmetics" to being psychologically manipulative to drain people's bank accounts. Loot boxes, which needs no introduction. Dlcs to "Cut content to sell back to the customer". Day 1 patch to "always need patch and which doubles the size of the game because the game isn't complete day 1". Ads in video games. I have more, but it's so much even I can't remember it all, but point being, we are at a point right now where the line has to be clearly drawn in the sand. If we let it go and keep taking half measures, you are gonna get more of these things and these people will never stop. You might not care Nuhre, you might say we are all dumb for saying this, but fact of the matter is that this has been going on for over a decade now. And it is time to face reality and understand that they ain't ever gonna stop, because the people destroying the hobby are people who at this point, have so much power, they can do whatever they want and they are exercising that power to the fullest.
nah, boiling down such a complex subject matter to just "Im the only good guy" is extreme ego at best, being lost in your own bubble at worst. nuhre choosing to not engage or exploit it, despite the fact that it could have easily doubled her subscriber base is worthy of praise.
@@mister-x2 it's not "I'm the only good guy", it's "We have to be clear about the fact that we are the last line in stopping gaming from getting worse than it is". And where have I said it's good to be lost in your own bubble? In fact, you are putting a massive ton of words, actually, all your own words in my mouth. The reason I am saying Nuhre not taking a stance is bad is because, in case you don't understand, we are in an actual cold war. I don't know how else to say it when for over a decade, we've literally been bombarded with propaganda, gaslighting and actual smear campaigns. Short of physically going to war, we are in a cold war. Like, seriously, look at how all your favorite franchises and mediums die. Step by step being infiltrated before being morphed and twisted into something unrecognizable. I would have been fine if when people push back, these companies and devs, actually changes it, like Sonic's movie director did, but nope, instead, we are smeared, lied to, gaslighted and what's even more screwed up, we have actual government officials using gamers as scapegoats and demonized. I bring up the queen of grift again. She literally went to the UN and spoke before the world leaders. Yes. Let me repeat, she went to the UN. You know, you government. Just to lie about the people calling her bs and defaming stance out. I don't know how else to say this, but if this was 5, maybe 6 years ago, I might have given it some credit that, yes, maybe we are taking it a bit too far, but bruh. This is 2025. We've literally seen the entire playbook now, and these people, they ain't shy about anything and have been shouting it through the roof. Man, I mean, if you still don't believe me, look at Dustbin, the dumpster fire. That game was made to be a propaganda piece, paid for by the tax payers of a country. I don't know how else to say this, but half ass measures and trying to be nice ain't gonna cut it. Keep this up, and you'll get Ubisoft, where Asian history is twisted, gutted, and re-written to suit the same people that created and propagated the Japanese Empire, which caused Asia no amount of pain and suffering. If that's still not enough, then I bring you to the race swapping epidemic. First they start with small fictional characters, and when people were somewhat willing to let it go, they moved on to the popular ones. Once that battle was won, they moved on to western historical figures. Once they got their way, they then go to other continents and other countries and tried to re-write their history. I don't know how else clearer I can get.
Corinne Busche: "doing what I love most - making RPGs."
Narrator: "DATV proves they do not love making RPGs."
She misspelled "ruining"
- supervises hired idiots
- releases bs game
- no one buys it
- toxic positivity
- Bioware ruined
- gets huge paycheck
- leaves
CB: "My work here is done. Lol."
I still don't see this as a win or a victory.
The victory would have been to have a good Dragon Age game after waiting for 10 years. And instead we got the destruction of our beloved franchise.
This hurts even more after seeing the Artbook with the original story.
Corinne won in the end. She destroyed a famed series, loved by many. These freaks said they would come for our games, and they did a lot of damage. All i can pray for now is a new gaming crash, and hopefully resets for the better.
Not only is this unsurprising, it was self inflicted. BioWare primarily did this to themselves. I don’t even want Mass Effect 5.
What is Mass Effect 5? Lol! Honestly, I believe that the only remains will be fragmented on a hard drive on a former employee's terminal and long forgotten.
@Wolpher
Mass Effect Andromeda was so bad, we all pretend it never happened.
We're getting Mass Effect 5 though: Exodus.
I must be the only person on the planet surprised by this. I thought her Ego would get in the way
@ProjectRedfoot his ego didn't get in the way. He knows he's feeling uncomfortable being a transvestite.
What's interesting is when most of the writing team last year was laid off before release, the assumption was that whoever was left over is why the writing is so bad. It's actually the opposite, Mary Kirby wrote Lucanis as an outlet for her coffee obsession, Kristjanson may have wrote Baldur's Gate 1 but he also wrote Sera and Liam. Weekes is the worst of them all, to go from a character like Mordin or Solas to their vanity project/mouthpiece in Taash. The team was doomed from the start, experience doesn't necessarily mean quality. I used to idolise BioWare, but I've been waiting for EA to put it out of its misery since Andromeda. Can't wait.
Corin Bush has stifled all creativity and walked away.
That artbook was depressing. The stuff for Dread Wolf looked awesome, enough for an epic game and some expansions. Then you get to Veilguard itself and it's...ugh.
Fresh blood who are great at what they do, led by experienced developers. That's what we want.
BioWare's time has passed. There's no need to shed tears for it; the company you loved is not what it is today and it hasn't been the company you've loved for a very long time. This California Groupthink spells disaster wherever it goes and it's better to just let it go than to sustain it further. A creative endeavor cannot be done via committee and all of the visionaries left ages ago. It happens, especially when there are no proteges and only pretenders to take their place.
Corinne busch left ea games to move in at unifadewalker 🤣🤣🤣🤣
The dream team about to show you haters wrong.
@marron5272 what dream team?🙄
Corrine Busche leaving EA is great news all around, but I’m most disappointed that this happened now and not back while Veilguard was still in development. She gave us the shitshow that was Veilguard and then dipped, regardless of whether that was her decision or not. It doesn’t matter how many times she or her supporters tell us that she was given the role of director because she was “qualified,” we have eyes and can read, and her past body of work says otherwise. Yeah, she most likely wasn’t the only one responsible for the bad quality of the game, but she was one of the people in charge of it. And of course, she is only one person who is part of the bigger issue at play in the gaming industry.
You either die a hero or live long enough for DEI to ruin your legacy.
The post on Andrew Busche... I mean Corinne Busche leaving Biohazard.... I mean Bioware was the best thing to wake up to. I couldn't stop laughing for about 20 to 30 minutes.
Sameer
Translation, it left before it got flung out
I didn't get that far in veilguard - kind of a heartbreaking experience because it's my favorite game series. After seeing this art book stuff I'm not even sure I'll finish it, even out of curiosity. I think the only thing that can save Dragon Age now is if some cool studio with good devs (like Larian) buys the IP and pick up the torch. And use time magic from DAI to reverse that disaster to make a proper Dragon Age Dreadwolf this time. But that would be a miracle I can only wish for. And as the saying goes, wish in one hand, and shit in the other - see which one fills up first.
i say it was all a bad fade dream caused by solas. then we wake up boom the real dragon age 4.
@@comradekitty3759 or that, yes. Even better
I've read comments where people proposed it was bad fan fiction from Cassandra, Sera or Scout Harding as read by Varric. This would explain Varric's narration of Veilguard even though he was dead most of the game.
I like the idea that the real Dreadwolf would begin with Varric gently trying to critique this bad writing.
I am leaning for Sera as the writer, since she has a thing for big Qunari women.
@@klassytome nice theory, but I don't believe Sera would ever write something this safe and toothless
25:50 Spidderman lol
That sounds like a name I would see on a Law Office.
"Thank you for calling Spidderman & Bueller. Do you have an ongoing litigation effort that we may assist with? If so, press 1!"
I HAVE AN ACCENT
While I am happy that she is gone, it’s just too late. The DA series has been tainted because of this game. One of the biggest disappointments for so many of us. The studio is not going to survive.
Kick Weekes out next.
Literally the only thing I"m surprised about is that Weeks still has a job.
I never want to put the death of BioWare on a single person but they really didn't help the steep decline. If anyone from Veilguard is brought over to Mass Effect 5 it will most likely have the same result and might official kill BioWare? Do we officially know the development budget cause if I was a head at EA and that 200 million is true and it couldn't sell around 2 million copies (from what I've heard) I think it might be finically smart to just close/sell off the studio?
Can't blame Corinne from abandoning a sinking ship.
THAT SHE PUT A HOLE IN
@@nuhre Oh for sure. She just did a Schettino.
DAV was a clusterfuck and that dude had no idea what he was doing. DAV will be the biggest flop in Biowares history. I heard that game costed them like 250 mil to 300 mil to make, they got about 1m copies sold. If one game cost 60 bux, and the buget was 250 mil - 300 mil. They need to get 4,17 mil - 5 mil units sold, just to brake even.
2:30 for some reason this music has me waiting for a dude to be like, "WHAT'S-UP, Goth-Gamer Nation!?"
And then I appear like hi 👋 ✨️ 🎀
If EA is wise, they should pull out DATVG out of steam and whatever platform and pretend that that game never existed and hired real gamer ppl that actually respecting the lore, the gore and continue DA from inquisition if they want to save DA. At this point the new shitty lore reboot will never work. DA is dead unless they remove veilguard completely out of this world.
They need to pretend it never happened. Although I doubt they'll do that. Or touch the IP ever again. It's a sinking ship. It doesn't matter how many they make, if they don't change the formula they'll be throwing money down the drain.
@@nuhre Agreed... unfortunately, that's the saddest truth that I have to accept.
Back in 2023 I wouldn't believed anyone telling me what Dragon Age will become
Bioware is still cooked. :) But hey we have Exodus to look forward to. ^^
Fingers crossed!
So they hired him and he never had experience with making RPGs to begin with. 😐 Can't say I'm surprised 🙄
also adding onto my "got All the dragonage games for $15, since Australia's dollar is the currency equivalent of actual dirt when not on sale the whole series (Sans failhard because it deserves to rot in the grave it dug and I usually avoid trash games) is around $130 or so dollars with Inquisition going for $50 and Origins and 2 for $40 each, seeing 50 Dollery doos going down to $7.50 is absolutely insane, that is the same cost as COOKIE CLICKER.
I also think that pushing all this woke crap into games, is insulting to the customer base as it suggests that the industry sees the customers as in need of educating.
If only she'd quit BEFORE making DA4. The game might still have been mediocre but we wouldn't have one of the worst characters ever seen in any crpg.
What would you think about a video of Sera, not just as a character but her reception. I notice that she not generally liked by fans. Or maybe she is misunderstood? I never know where I stand on her. There are times when I like her and others not so much. I do think she might be worthy of some analysis.
Adding it to the list
Soooo, what are we betting that she was "Firmly Invited To Leave Quietly With a Large Cheque" rather than leaving voluntarily? I'd put money on it. That's EXACTLY the kind of letter someone writes when they've been told very politely to 'fuck off or get fired", so they can still get good references. The only thing I'm surprised at is Ser Weeks is still employed, since (IMO) his portrayal of Taash and Isabela actually did worse for the game's reception than Busche's shitty management.
Ding dong the witch is dead😂😂😂
Good & I hope he didn't get a golden parachute for his loss. 🥳
Still not interested in ME5.
*He quit his job*
There, corrected it for you.
One toxic person less, cool.
Also, your boyfriend is so lucky, you are gorgeous.
He knows.
@nuhre 😁
I would say it's mostly something that happens with gringos, but maybe I'm biased. I say that because as a bisexual who knows a lot of gays, no one swallows the flag in companies. I like that there are romance options, it gives me more to write about when I do head canons, but not that they force romance or orientation, that's EVERY person's choice. You don't have to force that choice. It's stupid. It's a roleplaying game, why are you taking away my choice?
I guess there ARE lots of people who are bad at, and should not be hired, for what they love doing. XD
He quit his job.....
There may be a wee language barrier in your thumbnail, mate. I think you meant to type "He quit his job"
The person who says "It's not both sides, it's the woke vs gamers" is correct. YOU might not like it, but that's just reality. In fact, I will do you one better, "It's not both sides, it's the casuals vs the gamers". There, it holds true still.
Remember, a lot of the people pushing for these things, which ruins games, in a different time, would have been the people picking on the nerds, the geeks, your gamers, and just your outcast in general.
And why I say that is that when you take a look at the trend, all the stuff which ends up destroying games and making it trash, all got pushed when these niche hobbies go mainstream. It was that with comic books, then it was that with D&D, then your Warhammer, then your games, then your manga and animes. Give these people enough time and they will infiltrate everything and destroy it.
A good example would be the queen of grift, Anita Sarkeesian. She lied her way into getting donations by selling herself one way, but when you see all that she has said and done, she literally admits to not being a gamer. And you can say I misquote her on that or twist her words, but when you see what she does or says, it's impossible not to take it for what it is.
Down to it, both the companies and these entitled people who wants to only see themselves in fiction, the only thing that happens when you give them an inch, when you refuse to draw the line, is they take a country mile. We've seen that with horse armour from Oblivion, which transformed into microtransactions. Always online which translated to only online. "Cosmetics" to being psychologically manipulative to drain people's bank accounts. Loot boxes, which needs no introduction. Dlcs to "Cut content to sell back to the customer". Day 1 patch to "always need patch and which doubles the size of the game because the game isn't complete day 1". Ads in video games.
I have more, but it's so much even I can't remember it all, but point being, we are at a point right now where the line has to be clearly drawn in the sand. If we let it go and keep taking half measures, you are gonna get more of these things and these people will never stop.
You might not care Nuhre, you might say we are all dumb for saying this, but fact of the matter is that this has been going on for over a decade now. And it is time to face reality and understand that they ain't ever gonna stop, because the people destroying the hobby are people who at this point, have so much power, they can do whatever they want and they are exercising that power to the fullest.
nah, boiling down such a complex subject matter to just "Im the only good guy" is extreme ego at best, being lost in your own bubble at worst.
nuhre choosing to not engage or exploit it, despite the fact that it could have easily doubled her subscriber base is worthy of praise.
@@mister-x2 it's not "I'm the only good guy", it's "We have to be clear about the fact that we are the last line in stopping gaming from getting worse than it is". And where have I said it's good to be lost in your own bubble? In fact, you are putting a massive ton of words, actually, all your own words in my mouth.
The reason I am saying Nuhre not taking a stance is bad is because, in case you don't understand, we are in an actual cold war. I don't know how else to say it when for over a decade, we've literally been bombarded with propaganda, gaslighting and actual smear campaigns. Short of physically going to war, we are in a cold war.
Like, seriously, look at how all your favorite franchises and mediums die. Step by step being infiltrated before being morphed and twisted into something unrecognizable. I would have been fine if when people push back, these companies and devs, actually changes it, like Sonic's movie director did, but nope, instead, we are smeared, lied to, gaslighted and what's even more screwed up, we have actual government officials using gamers as scapegoats and demonized.
I bring up the queen of grift again. She literally went to the UN and spoke before the world leaders. Yes. Let me repeat, she went to the UN. You know, you government. Just to lie about the people calling her bs and defaming stance out.
I don't know how else to say this, but if this was 5, maybe 6 years ago, I might have given it some credit that, yes, maybe we are taking it a bit too far, but bruh. This is 2025. We've literally seen the entire playbook now, and these people, they ain't shy about anything and have been shouting it through the roof.
Man, I mean, if you still don't believe me, look at Dustbin, the dumpster fire. That game was made to be a propaganda piece, paid for by the tax payers of a country. I don't know how else to say this, but half ass measures and trying to be nice ain't gonna cut it. Keep this up, and you'll get Ubisoft, where Asian history is twisted, gutted, and re-written to suit the same people that created and propagated the Japanese Empire, which caused Asia no amount of pain and suffering.
If that's still not enough, then I bring you to the race swapping epidemic. First they start with small fictional characters, and when people were somewhat willing to let it go, they moved on to the popular ones. Once that battle was won, they moved on to western historical figures. Once they got their way, they then go to other continents and other countries and tried to re-write their history. I don't know how else clearer I can get.
Let me show you how you can make the reader of this comment, smile and frustrate a little bit.
Nice pajamas🤣
@@ludovicflames4643 IT WAS A BLOUSE
True😂@@nuhre
dang?dong!yo!
Y’all so messy and petty 🤣
It's my brand.
It's what I love. I bring the popcorn.
U meant he, did u?
she have to be careful. twitch and youtube very protective about those freaks.