I’ve been obsessed with this idea ever since I started reading 'The Irresistible Seduction Formula.' Like, why don’t we talk about this stuff more? Girls, you NEED to check it out!
The older you get, the more you choose calmness over conflict and distance over disrespect. Drama becomes intolerable to you and your peace becomes your ultimate priority. You start surrounding yourself with people who are good for your mental health, heart and soul.
@@EllaBella-76 oh dear!! thanks for sharing your great experience with us 🙏... I don't believe in "apologies"... 🔥 Headed people do things intentionally expecting to apologize 😔😔 laugh
I wish people read, or listened to this from a null hypothesis, neutral/open, unbiased point of view. I feel as if people are just so ready to attack because it isn’t morally, “ideal.” This helped me realize how I was basically manipulated by recognizing patterns. I think it’s just smart to understand human nature whether you agree with it or not.
00:01 🎭 *Types of Seducers* - Overview of the nine types of seducers, each with distinct character traits. 01:07 🧜 *The Siren* - The Siren as the ultimate male fantasy figure, offering a release from limitations. - The danger and allure of the Siren's cultivated appearance and manner. - Embodying the Siren's fantasy to take control of the male libido. 02:28 🃏 *The Rake* - The Rake as a female fantasy figure with unrestrained passion. - The appeal of the Rake's disloyalty and amorality. - Utilizing the Rake's seductive language and reputation. 03:52 🎭 *Ideal Lover and Dandy* - Ideal lovers thriving on shattered dreams and creating illusions. - The Dandy's appeal in breaking free from societal roles and creating ambiguity. - Harnessing the power of the Dandy to create an alluring presence. 05:00 🌿 *The Natural* - Naturals embodying childhood qualities and creating a playful spirit. - Using the pose of the Natural to neutralize defensiveness. - Eliciting sympathy and protection through the Natural persona. 06:11 💔 *The Coquette* - Coquettes mastering the art of delaying satisfaction. - Orchestrating a back-and-forth movement between hope and frustration. - The strategy of the Coquette to never offer total satisfaction. 07:18 🎭 *The Charmer* - Charmers as consummate manipulators creating pleasure and comfort. - Deflecting attention from themselves to focus on the target. - Casting the charmer's spell by targeting vanity and self-esteem. 08:10 ⭐ *The Charismatic and Star* - Charismatics radiating extraordinary presence and confidence. - Creating the charismatic illusion with intensity and detachment. - Stars standing out through a distinctive style and dreamlike quality. 09:05 🔄 *Seductive Process Introduction* - Overview of the seductive process in four phases. 09:33 🎯 *Phase One: Separation* - Initiating separation to stir interest and desire. - Tasks in choosing the right victim and creating a false sense of security. - Approaches for different types of potential victims. 11:35 🤔 *Phase Two: Lead Astray* - Leading victims astray emotionally, creating pleasure and confusion. - Techniques to keep victims in suspense and the importance of attention to detail. - The use of words, aesthetic touches, and rituals in seduction. 14:06 ⚖️ *Phase Three: The Precipice* - Deepening the effect through extreme measures. - Probing deeper into the victim's psyche and manipulating desires. - Using spiritual lures to confuse and enchant. 16:08 💏 *Phase Four: Moving in for the Kill* - Transitioning from mental and emotional seduction to physical seduction. - Sparking panic and impatience in victims. - Mastering the art of the bold move and potential aftereffects.
Its always interesting to see how people react to Greene's books. The absence of moral judgement is always a shock to the system and they react with disgust and concern. The books aren't immoral, just amoral. They paint an unsensored picture offering clarity and acceptance, rather than a typically righteous one.
The book is often confused and judged hardly because people believe it is about control and belittling people. When in actual fact it is a deep discussion about what we crave and want from each other. To be a good lover is to be a master in giving people what they want, in a way where we can also fulfill what we want as well. It is a give and take.
@@roykong7024 I appreciate you taking the time to explain it in this way. Helps and makes a lot more sense. I shall continue reading the book with a different perspective on it. Thanks!
Let's all be honest and admit our guilty pleasure of abandoning everything we are doing to watch a video of Robert Greene when he starts talking about seduction. LOL
most people have been using it all their lives though, more or less, this video simply puts it into words and gives clarity to their behaviour @@elvisvan
like i dont think anyone 'uses' this conciously, that would b a bit try hard and wont work, it must come naturally, thats the whole point of seduction in my opinion @@elvisvan
Personally (even as a female) I enjoy being the seducer so much. Being able to stir desire and take another person on a journey is extremely fulfilling for me. I know this is stereotypically a masculine role, but nevertheless I enjoy it by adding feminine twist to it. I fall under the ideal lover + coquette + the dandy types.
@@Zlata1Z Great question. I only go this far for extremely unique individuals that inspire me. Their presence gives me energy, and in return I enjoy giving them pleasure. I'm definitely no player nor a chronic seducer that goes after one night stand. That's how I have the time and energy. End goal is being in a relationship or at least having an out-of-boring-daily life experience with them.
In the realm of seduction, being the seduced can be thrilling and exhilarating. However, it's crucial to understand the manipulator's intentions and the changes they bring upon us. By recognizing their tactics and staying true to ourselves, we can navigate this dangerous game with clarity and emerge stronger.
I really think the terminology is what turns people off of this and the laws of power. Sure the tactics displayed are overtly manipulative which is generally negative, but if we're being honest with ourselves almost any interaction with a goal involves some degree of manipulative behavior (think being extra nice and smiley when trying to make a good first inpression). Absolutely think the advice in his books can be used for bad or good, which he expresses in his interviews. But using the term "victims" definitely gives people the wrong idea lol.
I think it's about balance and for you to figure out your specific way to mesh yourself... This must be applied when a person has learned themselves and the power in that
My theory is, that he wants the terminology to be this way, to create a lure and a strong emotional reaction. And the ultimate seducer is one, who has you under his control, so it makes sense, that he uses this terminology for the overarching theme of the book. A normal person wouldn't ever want to dive into the behaviour of the later chapters, if they only seek to pursue a functional relationship.
1. the Rake (stud; bad guy) 2. the Dandy (androgynous) 3. the Natural (childlike energy) 4. the Coquette (hot & cold; dismissive avoidant) 5. the Star (imagined celebrity) 6. the Charismatic (confidence) 7. the Charmer (makes women feel comfortable) 8. the Ideal Lover (uses the woman's desires as his image) I'm the Dandy and the Coquette. Crazy. I might also be a Charmer.
What i’ve learned about this video is clearly who I am NOT, and that’s a wonderful thing. This video reminds me that I never have to devalue anyone, use them as a pawn for my own personal gain. I actually have this book, and couldn’t bring myself to finish reading it so I decided to listen to this video since it popped up on my feed and now I know exactly what to do with the book, throw it away. There isn’t a single part of me that could ever consciously hurt someone for my own pleasure.
Right?! I really felt the same way. I thought it was a book about something totally different. But I really don’t understand this type of perspective from the writer. Why would I purposely want to take control of someone in that way. I don’t get it…
there is nothing about hurting another person. can you further describe your thoughts? i m really interested to understand the different views on this book
@@BastianSteffens I believe that i’ve made my statement very clear… 🙂 You can ask your self though how devaluing others, using them and trying to manipulate others to get what you want makes you feel, and you may get the answers you’re looking for.
I love this book. It really helped me realize my interpersonal wins/seductions and give me hope for my social future as well as guidance along the way.
@@research1982 The fact that it's vague to the point of having almost no practical value. Be vulnerable, but not too vulnerable is not really advice from which one can readily benefit. Whereas work out every day for 30 minutes, and minimize sugar consumption are tangible pieces of advice. I may be mistaken, but his thesis seems to be deficient in that respect.
@@d.mavridopoulos66I feel as though you can understand more if you apply them to situations you've been through, I found it has much more meaning that way.
This is a good way to learn a little about the modus operandi of phychopaths, and even use it back in them, but they are still a small portion of society and seduction goes a lot deeper than this if you want to cover more types of personalities.
This sounds more like the diary of a narcissist but it’s still good to read the book to enhance your awareness of these toxic people and their manipulative behavior.
not to survive but to get what dependent people think they need to feel good. The refussal to face fear and pain, and always giving into addiction and pleassure is a sure way to keep suffering and having your sense of peace/fulfillment outside yourself@@wquestz
Seduction is okay, and getting people to sleep with you is okay. What isn't okay is lying, and taking advantage of people's feelings. Ethical rules applies in all social situations.
@@mariocortez8853 we say that, but there's more rules in war than in love. i'd rather die in a field among brethren and enemy alike, than to die alone on a hill where i believed i was loved.
here we go with middle class morality ethical rules change in every situation differently the only real limit to amorality or as you call it "not okay" is your personal physical security and feel if both of them are okay there are no limitations nor some rules which block your path to take advantage of something incl. people's feelings
This book is a true Bible of Seduction. And I think that it is a MUST read to any woman out there! I have read this many many times and it trully fits the seductive character analysis I do on my channel 👑
until you realise you always have to sacrifise your authenticity bc you are playing with energy and behaviour just to get a certain reaction aka dependency. Powerplay is always about feeling a lack of strength/relaxation without it
Great video, A month ago, my five-year relationship came to an end. I really can't stop thinking about the love of my life, who made the decision to leave me. I've done everything in my power to win him back, but it's all in vain, and I can't imagine my life with anyone else. I genuinely miss him and just can't stop thinking about him, even though I've tried my hardest to stop thinking about him. I'm not sure why I'm saying this here.
I want to buy your book Robert, but i'm in another country and the import fees makes your book so expensive i cannot afford it. Thank you for still sharing your wonders through the internet
I believe only the rake and siren are the real seducers simply because their “method” is more catered and focused. You’d have to be extremely good at reading people to learn what they desire and become that. None of these are bulletproof 100% guaranteed success tho. This book is more about being more attractive to common people (outside of rake and siren) than actually seducing someone. So the breakdown would only make this book become a complete lie. No one can seduce someone into doing something they do not already desire without using of force of some kind. And furthermore a breakdown would remove the humanity and natural flow of the interaction which is useless because humans are not robots, one act can have thousands of different responses based simply on how its taken without even mentioning when and where. Just way too many variables.
This is the best lesson for a young man..a great instrument to control his mind and emotions...and have success in his life....i thing your books must be inside schools...for a better society... Thank you Robert ❤
Sending prayers of strength and peace to anyone that has been the unfortunate victim of these forms of insidious manipulation. Know that by recognizing these tactics for what they are and removing the toxicity from your life you too can heal in your time and move on to healthier and happier relationships that are based in love and mutual respect and not abusive mind games.🙏💪✨🕊️💛
@@queenofsheba1000 I'm sorry that you had to experience this queenofsheba.🫶 My prayer is that you are no longer employed there and that you filed a complaint against your boss. When someone uses a position of power to harass an unsuspecting employee that's an abuse of power that needs to be addressed for the sake of your own safety and that of others as well. 💛 Allow yourself time to heal Queen and know that you did not deserve this. 🫂 God bless and may you find happiness and success moving forward along your life's path in a much healthier and stable working environment.🙏💪🕊️
Lovely words there, thanks for the positive vibes. Sad to see so many people willing to manipulate others into liking them. A sense of power I suppose, but isn't power the opposite of love?
This is not about being evil or unethical (although it is possible for these unethical types to use these strategies too) but rather, to be intentional and self aware.
I am so glad you made this video. Definitely would listen to this video often. Until I can think back at it as much as I do for the 48 Laws. Even after I would still listen to refresh my memory.
It’s interesting to learn about different types of seducer and how seduction can work in some places, but let’s be real this honestly will never work if you want a healthy long lasting real relationship it’s all mind games that eventually fails especially if you think of this as a Manual you will gain nothing but temporary satisfaction of being a player then it’s gets boring and scary so take what fits right and leave the rest to your own right of judgement
00:01 There are nine Seducer types, each with a unique character trait. 02:24 The Rake and The Dandy are ideal lovers 04:43 Create an ambiguous alluring presence that stirs repressed desires 06:57 Charismatic people understand your spirit, feel your pain, and make you feel better about yourself. 09:07 Separate and fill their minds with thoughts of you 11:14 Lead your victims astray, creating pleasure and confusion 13:34 Deepen the seduction and affect a regression 15:50 Master the art of seduction by luring them into desire and using physical lures.
after hours of study and contemplation, i can today conclude that i am a combination of both the rake and the charmer. first and foremost, I'm a rake, my charmer-esque qualities only spawning as a result of my rakish infatuations.
This is straight up a narcissist / abuser's playbook. Lol "victim." Props though to Mr. Greene; it's really well laid out. A really good film that shows like every single step is "The Servant" Harold Pinter 1963
sure if you value tension and want to get your ego off instead or relaxation and true intimacy. You are just continually turning in subconsious emotions/mental patterns. It causes desire bc it feels deeply familiar (deep conditioning) and causes anxiety bc you have experienced the suffering that comes from it before 'how indiffrent and ruthless will this one be? Exciting!'
They say this book is amor, they say it s wrong to manipulate people on their feeling, they say you should not play with emotion and weakness of the others... You just described how a woman behave for sex and relationship
yup exactly, this book is great for self defense. I noticed it's always the ppl who come in our life by themselves. I don't trust ppl who approach me first or even give me alot of attention, I choose Who I want in my life, not who wants in my life.
Am I a bad person for manupilating the people around me? And learning more on how to do it even better, it's my way of staying safe and untouched in conflict or in getting help. So it's more an instinct.
its a way you are trying to fullfill you needs and wants, you tell me if it leads to peace, contentment and real intimacy. You are reliving patterns and not having to look at the why ect as long as you just go along with desire and avoid what you are afraid off
Anyone attempting to implement any of these tactics is necessarily insincere, unless you, withoit thought or motive, are innately seductive. In my opinion, sincerity is a most attractive characteristic, regardless of whether or not there is agreement in belief or understanding
I don't get what these ethical people are trying to say. If you've been loved by a girl or someone, do you think that because of your look? No, it's because of your personality and energy, so you got the love of that girl but not other girls, which means that everybody loves some traits about others that make them fall in love with them, and what the book is providing are the traits that seduce each type of person, so you change your energy to be able to get their love, and about that being ethical or not, you cannot say it's not because your personality is already seducing some type of person, and you think that is okay, but you think changing the way you seduce is unethical because you're seeing people as pawns? It's all about ethics, and if you make others love you, that is a good thing for you and them to make a connection and win friendship and other things, and what is not ethical is you doing it just for playing them and then leaving them hurt after you betray them.
Personally I found this video sickening, but some people do consciously crave toxic seduction. I think that it says a lot about people's emotional maturity.
Being a natural siren can be very difficult due to the fact that somw women just hate me for no known reason but i just ignore there insecurities and continue being me❤❤
i was like you my friend. i used to think like you; i was (and am...IMO) physically unattractive, repellent, insecure and hopelessly romantic. my view on love was unrealistic and distorted. i failed time and again with women, but then. after losing my soul in the process, i awoke, i realised that my natural authentic self was not enough; i began attentively studying Roberts book "the art of seduction" every day and i am proud yet equally shameful to say that, it has worked with immense and frankly unexpected potency: i read, i pondered i considered and i eventually practiced. i now, with thanks to Robert and my arduous efforts have finally gotten a woman incredibly interested in me. she has feelings for me, she tells me she loves me. she has become dependent on me. am i guilty? somewhat, do i regret it? not an ounce.
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u r great ....!
sounds very meaningful and very good
It can't be ship to my country 😢
I'm in Vietnam and want to order some books, can I order them?
I have a question: Is this possible if someone is Siren and Coquette naturally ?
I’ve been obsessed with this idea ever since I started reading 'The Irresistible Seduction Formula.' Like, why don’t we talk about this stuff more? Girls, you NEED to check it out!
I got it, truly a good book
The older you get, the more you choose calmness over conflict and distance over disrespect. Drama becomes intolerable to you and your peace becomes your ultimate priority. You start surrounding yourself with people who are good for your mental health, heart and soul.
@@EllaBella-76 oh dear!! thanks for sharing your great experience with us 🙏... I don't believe in "apologies"... 🔥 Headed people do things intentionally expecting to apologize 😔😔 laugh
I learn it from the Japanese as many of them are still polite n calm towards insult.
Bro literally quoted a reels/TikTok audio trend lmao 😂
So true for some
Facts
I wish people read, or listened to this from a null hypothesis, neutral/open, unbiased point of view. I feel as if people are just so ready to attack because it isn’t morally, “ideal.” This helped me realize how I was basically manipulated by recognizing patterns. I think it’s just smart to understand human nature whether you agree with it or not.
00:01 🎭 *Types of Seducers*
- Overview of the nine types of seducers, each with distinct character traits.
01:07 🧜 *The Siren*
- The Siren as the ultimate male fantasy figure, offering a release from limitations.
- The danger and allure of the Siren's cultivated appearance and manner.
- Embodying the Siren's fantasy to take control of the male libido.
02:28 🃏 *The Rake*
- The Rake as a female fantasy figure with unrestrained passion.
- The appeal of the Rake's disloyalty and amorality.
- Utilizing the Rake's seductive language and reputation.
03:52 🎭 *Ideal Lover and Dandy*
- Ideal lovers thriving on shattered dreams and creating illusions.
- The Dandy's appeal in breaking free from societal roles and creating ambiguity.
- Harnessing the power of the Dandy to create an alluring presence.
05:00 🌿 *The Natural*
- Naturals embodying childhood qualities and creating a playful spirit.
- Using the pose of the Natural to neutralize defensiveness.
- Eliciting sympathy and protection through the Natural persona.
06:11 💔 *The Coquette*
- Coquettes mastering the art of delaying satisfaction.
- Orchestrating a back-and-forth movement between hope and frustration.
- The strategy of the Coquette to never offer total satisfaction.
07:18 🎭 *The Charmer*
- Charmers as consummate manipulators creating pleasure and comfort.
- Deflecting attention from themselves to focus on the target.
- Casting the charmer's spell by targeting vanity and self-esteem.
08:10 ⭐ *The Charismatic and Star*
- Charismatics radiating extraordinary presence and confidence.
- Creating the charismatic illusion with intensity and detachment.
- Stars standing out through a distinctive style and dreamlike quality.
09:05 🔄 *Seductive Process Introduction*
- Overview of the seductive process in four phases.
09:33 🎯 *Phase One: Separation*
- Initiating separation to stir interest and desire.
- Tasks in choosing the right victim and creating a false sense of security.
- Approaches for different types of potential victims.
11:35 🤔 *Phase Two: Lead Astray*
- Leading victims astray emotionally, creating pleasure and confusion.
- Techniques to keep victims in suspense and the importance of attention to detail.
- The use of words, aesthetic touches, and rituals in seduction.
14:06 ⚖️ *Phase Three: The Precipice*
- Deepening the effect through extreme measures.
- Probing deeper into the victim's psyche and manipulating desires.
- Using spiritual lures to confuse and enchant.
16:08 💏 *Phase Four: Moving in for the Kill*
- Transitioning from mental and emotional seduction to physical seduction.
- Sparking panic and impatience in victims.
- Mastering the art of the bold move and potential aftereffects.
Thanks now I don’t have to was 20 minutes of my life
Its always interesting to see how people react to Greene's books. The absence of moral judgement is always a shock to the system and they react with disgust and concern.
The books aren't immoral, just amoral. They paint an unsensored picture offering clarity and acceptance, rather than a typically righteous one.
I love that it's amoral
The book is often confused and judged hardly because people believe it is about control and belittling people. When in actual fact it is a deep discussion about what we crave and want from each other. To be a good lover is to be a master in giving people what they want, in a way where we can also fulfill what we want as well. It is a give and take.
People want to be told what to think, not how to think.
@@roykong7024 I appreciate you taking the time to explain it in this way. Helps and makes a lot more sense. I shall continue reading the book with a different perspective on it. Thanks!
I dont understand what you said but I am very impressed.
I had to read the book a few times to fully understand the book, and let me tell you, I highly recommend it, you learn something new every time
If you have read it several times, how has it improved your life. Share a story.
@@JasonMomoa999have never been short of lovely sweet beautiful women and a perpetual disciple of Venus 😍
what about now?@@nelsonsmiles3904
Let's all be honest and admit our guilty pleasure of abandoning everything we are doing to watch a video of Robert Greene when he starts talking about seduction. LOL
True he seduces us to click on the video and watch till the end
Let’s all be honest and admit you cultish losers need to Get A Life
how satisfying to learn powerful knowledge but also regretfully knowing we most likely will never use it ):)
most people have been using it all their lives though, more or less, this video simply puts it into words and gives clarity to their behaviour
@@elvisvan
like i dont think anyone 'uses' this conciously, that would b a bit try hard and wont work, it must come naturally, thats the whole point of seduction in my opinion @@elvisvan
A question I always WISHED someone would ask Mr. Greene is: What do you personally think is more fun? Being the seducer or being seduced?
Personally (even as a female) I enjoy being the seducer so much. Being able to stir desire and take another person on a journey is extremely fulfilling for me. I know this is stereotypically a masculine role, but nevertheless I enjoy it by adding feminine twist to it.
I fall under the ideal lover + coquette + the dandy types.
@@BashaerB-h2c It seems (from the video) like a very time, energy and other resources consuming endeavor. What motivates you? What's the end goal?
@@Zlata1Z Great question. I only go this far for extremely unique individuals that inspire me. Their presence gives me energy, and in return I enjoy giving them pleasure. I'm definitely no player nor a chronic seducer that goes after one night stand. That's how I have the time and energy. End goal is being in a relationship or at least having an out-of-boring-daily life experience with them.
In the realm of seduction, being the seduced can be thrilling and exhilarating. However, it's crucial to understand the manipulator's intentions and the changes they bring upon us. By recognizing their tactics and staying true to ourselves, we can navigate this dangerous game with clarity and emerge stronger.
@@dr.z2608 no 7 Deadly sins
I really think the terminology is what turns people off of this and the laws of power. Sure the tactics displayed are overtly manipulative which is generally negative, but if we're being honest with ourselves almost any interaction with a goal involves some degree of manipulative behavior (think being extra nice and smiley when trying to make a good first inpression). Absolutely think the advice in his books can be used for bad or good, which he expresses in his interviews. But using the term "victims" definitely gives people the wrong idea lol.
Yeah calling them “victims” is a lil off putting
I think it's about balance and for you to figure out your specific way to mesh yourself... This must be applied when a person has learned themselves and the power in that
My theory is, that he wants the terminology to be this way, to create a lure and a strong emotional reaction. And the ultimate seducer is one, who has you under his control, so it makes sense, that he uses this terminology for the overarching theme of the book. A normal person wouldn't ever want to dive into the behaviour of the later chapters, if they only seek to pursue a functional relationship.
1. the Rake (stud; bad guy)
2. the Dandy (androgynous)
3. the Natural (childlike energy)
4. the Coquette (hot & cold; dismissive avoidant)
5. the Star (imagined celebrity)
6. the Charismatic (confidence)
7. the Charmer (makes women feel comfortable)
8. the Ideal Lover (uses the woman's desires as his image)
I'm the Dandy and the Coquette. Crazy.
I might also be a Charmer.
You forgot the Siren
Watching this as a dv survivor is interesting because it very much follows an abuser's tactics. It's the same thing. Be careful with who you trust.
Hey I’m a DV survivor too lololol what a coinkidink!
@@WeirdDensityskill issue
hey girlies,,,lol checking in to this, lol, dv survivor as well, same tactics, but he later killed himself
What i’ve learned about this video is clearly who I am NOT, and that’s a wonderful thing. This video reminds me that I never have to devalue anyone, use them as a pawn for my own personal gain. I actually have this book, and couldn’t bring myself to finish reading it so I decided to listen to this video since it popped up on my feed and now I know exactly what to do with the book, throw it away. There isn’t a single part of me that could ever consciously hurt someone for my own pleasure.
Right?! I really felt the same way. I thought it was a book about something totally different. But I really don’t understand this type of perspective from the writer. Why would I purposely want to take control of someone in that way. I don’t get it…
@@jennspth2freedomThat's because you're not a psychopath or any other Cluster B personality 😊
@@Edisius95 Lol! Oh okay, well when you put it that way, makes me feel better 😁
there is nothing about hurting another person. can you further describe your thoughts? i m really interested to understand the different views on this book
@@BastianSteffens I believe that i’ve made my statement very clear… 🙂 You can ask your self though how devaluing others, using them and trying to manipulate others to get what you want makes you feel, and you may get the answers you’re looking for.
Psychology is just so adventurous ✨
Revandles forbidden books (thank me later)
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I love this book. It really helped me realize my interpersonal wins/seductions and give me hope for my social future as well as guidance along the way.
You really managed to extract something tangible from Greene's abstract thesis? It's so sketchily adumbrated that it could mean anything to anyone.
@@d.mavridopoulos66 interesting, what led you to this conclusion?
@@research1982 The fact that it's vague to the point of having almost no practical value. Be vulnerable, but not too vulnerable is not really advice from which one can readily benefit. Whereas work out every day for 30 minutes, and minimize sugar consumption are tangible pieces of advice. I may be mistaken, but his thesis seems to be deficient in that respect.
@@d.mavridopoulos66 Ah, I see what you mean. I think that is a fair critique. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
@@d.mavridopoulos66I feel as though you can understand more if you apply them to situations you've been through, I found it has much more meaning that way.
we love a genius who listens to his fans💜💜💜
this is more a teasing than a summary, it is awesome anyways, it really helps the memory.
This is a good way to learn a little about the modus operandi of phychopaths, and even use it back in them, but they are still a small portion of society and seduction goes a lot deeper than this if you want to cover more types of personalities.
This sounds more like the diary of a narcissist but it’s still good to read the book to enhance your awareness of these toxic people and their manipulative behavior.
its how it works see it a skill we need to have in order to survive if you are aware or not these will still work on you
not to survive but to get what dependent people think they need to feel good. The refussal to face fear and pain, and always giving into addiction and pleassure is a sure way to keep suffering and having your sense of peace/fulfillment outside yourself@@wquestz
sounds like a guide book for a RPG...
That's exactly what it is,borderline narcissistic..if you have read the 48 laws that is similar obviously
@@-Siculus-Hort-rpg?
Seduction is okay, and getting people to sleep with you is okay. What isn't okay is lying, and taking advantage of people's feelings. Ethical rules applies in all social situations.
All is fair in love and war. Morals are good, but you can't be suffocating with them
@@mariocortez8853 war isn't moral. It's a necessary evil.
Seduction is amoral. And people who are amoral tend to be better at it. It is what it is.
@@mariocortez8853 we say that, but there's more rules in war than in love.
i'd rather die in a field among brethren and enemy alike, than to die alone on a hill where i believed i was loved.
here we go with middle class morality
ethical rules change in every situation differently
the only real limit to amorality or as you call it "not okay" is your personal physical security and feel
if both of them are okay there are no limitations nor some rules which block your path to take advantage of something incl. people's feelings
the way you calling them "your victim" is so funny hahahaha
Because of the implication.
The DENNIS system
Freaky ahh😂😂
This book is a true Bible of Seduction. And I think that it is a MUST read to any woman out there!
I have read this many many times and it trully fits the seductive character analysis I do on my channel 👑
until you realise you always have to sacrifise your authenticity bc you are playing with energy and behaviour just to get a certain reaction aka dependency. Powerplay is always about feeling a lack of strength/relaxation without it
@@Puuwswow that’s deep
Robert Greene you are great man of this time, thank you for sharing your understanding
Great video, A month ago, my five-year relationship came to an end. I really can't stop thinking about the love of my life, who made the decision to leave me. I've done everything in my power to win him back, but it's all in vain, and I can't imagine my life with anyone else. I genuinely miss him and just can't stop thinking about him, even though I've tried my hardest to stop thinking about him. I'm not sure why I'm saying this here.
I'm hoping for the best for you, and he realizes what he lost.
Every entrepreneur must read this book once in their journey
Thank you. This video helps to understand the concepts of the book better
I want to buy your book Robert, but i'm in another country and the import fees makes your book so expensive i cannot afford it. Thank you for still sharing your wonders through the internet
Try finding a pdf online
@@EarthlyStudy yes, but i'm just wanna pay to thank the author
@@Spark_Plug17 no of course :) !! That’s what I do or I listen to the audiobook on here than pay
The anti seductive qualities are the most important thing in my opinion. Having any of them seems to be what woman are all looking out for.
Agree
Love this would love a further break down of the phases of seduction
Read the book
Fr I didn't even see "create triangles" in there that's my favorite rule
I believe only the rake and siren are the real seducers simply because their “method” is more catered and focused. You’d have to be extremely good at reading people to learn what they desire and become that. None of these are bulletproof 100% guaranteed success tho. This book is more about being more attractive to common people (outside of rake and siren) than actually seducing someone. So the breakdown would only make this book become a complete lie. No one can seduce someone into doing something they do not already desire without using of force of some kind. And furthermore a breakdown would remove the humanity and natural flow of the interaction which is useless because humans are not robots, one act can have thousands of different responses based simply on how its taken without even mentioning when and where. Just way too many variables.
Now I'm motivated to read it. I Like the summary 👌
Not kidding this may be the actual book word for word I’ve read it and it seems like this isnit
Now i'm wondering...
I read this book more than any other . 9 times and it’s still not enough . I need to reread soon.
This is the best lesson for a young man..a great instrument to control his mind and emotions...and have success in his life....i thing your books must be inside schools...for a better society...
Thank you Robert ❤
Sending prayers of strength and peace to anyone that has been the unfortunate victim of these forms of insidious manipulation. Know that by recognizing these tactics for what they are and removing the toxicity from your life you too can heal in your time and move on to healthier and happier relationships that are based in love and mutual respect and not abusive mind games.🙏💪✨🕊️💛
or you can tap into your inner seduction and stop complaining. I used to have the victim mindset too. It dosent help.
@@lacheinc How do you define a victim mindset?💛
This happened to me at my job with my Boss
@@queenofsheba1000 I'm sorry that you had to experience this queenofsheba.🫶 My prayer is that you are no longer employed there and that you filed a complaint against your boss. When someone uses a position of power to harass an unsuspecting employee that's an abuse of power that needs to be addressed for the sake of your own safety and that of others as well. 💛 Allow yourself time to heal Queen and know that you did not deserve this. 🫂 God bless and may you find happiness and success moving forward along your life's path in a much healthier and stable working environment.🙏💪🕊️
Lovely words there, thanks for the positive vibes. Sad to see so many people willing to manipulate others into liking them. A sense of power I suppose, but isn't power the opposite of love?
This is the reason why authenticity will always win - because it doesn’t allow any room for manipulation/toxicity/confusion described here
yes sister!! someone who isnt willing to be honest, isnt ready for real intimacy and peace
I haven’t mastered the art of subduction. But I love your books! 📚
Well, that worked for me
i feel the same. there is so much knowledge. And the more i read it the more i realize that its a long way to learn everything in this books
Try mastering English first.
Seduction, not subduction. Two completely different meanings. 😅
@@island661perhaps this 'mistake' was intentional!! 😱😱😱
This is not about being evil or unethical (although it is possible for these unethical types to use these strategies too) but rather, to be intentional and self aware.
I listen to this everyday. My only friend, Robert Greene.
Wow I thought the laws of power was enough, I will certainly love this book.
I listen to this daily. I aim to be a MASTER SEDUCER.
😂😂😂😂
Immaculate narration, gotta read the book now
I am so glad you made this video. Definitely would listen to this video often. Until I can think back at it as much as I do for the 48 Laws. Even after I would still listen to refresh my memory.
I kinda feel like this would probably go over a little bit better if he didn’t constantly use the word “victim” all of the time.
The book uses the term so it makes sense to use it in the summary of the book
It adds to the drama of the book I believe it’s a smart tactic
Get out your feelings
i have been each of these throughout my life to differnet people.
I enjoyed the aesthetics of this video. Thank you ❤
This video is great the summary is so good that can get you results with people that show even the slightest interest. I will defenitely buy the book!
It’s interesting to learn about different types of seducer and how seduction can work in some places, but let’s be real this honestly will never work if you want a healthy long lasting real relationship it’s all mind games that eventually fails especially if you think of this as a Manual you will gain nothing but temporary satisfaction of being a player then it’s gets boring and scary so take what fits right and leave the rest to your own right of judgement
Excellent presentation, and very thorough. One of my favorites but not always time to run througj the whole thing. Thank you 😎
Finished the book! 🔥
00:01 There are nine Seducer types, each with a unique character trait.
02:24 The Rake and The Dandy are ideal lovers
04:43 Create an ambiguous alluring presence that stirs repressed desires
06:57 Charismatic people understand your spirit, feel your pain, and make you feel better about yourself.
09:07 Separate and fill their minds with thoughts of you
11:14 Lead your victims astray, creating pleasure and confusion
13:34 Deepen the seduction and affect a regression
15:50 Master the art of seduction by luring them into desire and using physical lures.
after hours of study and contemplation, i can today conclude that i am a combination of both the rake and the charmer. first and foremost, I'm a rake, my charmer-esque qualities only spawning as a result of my rakish infatuations.
Best book I’ve ever come across.❤❤
This is straight up a narcissist / abuser's playbook. Lol "victim." Props though to Mr. Greene; it's really well laid out. A really good film that shows like every single step is "The Servant" Harold Pinter 1963
Thank you so much for this Robert❤
Have you heard about the count st Germain, kazanova was evidently jealous by what he wrote in his diary
It's like a thrilling game of chess. Especially if your partner is also a master seducer. Best experience in the world.
sure if you value tension and want to get your ego off instead or relaxation and true intimacy. You are just continually turning in subconsious emotions/mental patterns. It causes desire bc it feels deeply familiar (deep conditioning) and causes anxiety bc you have experienced the suffering that comes from it before 'how indiffrent and ruthless will this one be? Exciting!'
Is it possible to actually have traits of more than one of the seducers ?
Robert have been uploading a lot
Mr Green's books are transcendent
They say this book is amor, they say it s wrong to manipulate people on their feeling, they say you should not play with emotion and weakness of the others... You just described how a woman behave for sex and relationship
Anybody can be manipulative.
Men use these more than women. Women can be easily seductive just through their looks.
He literally placed a photo of Tito as a coquette model. Wonderful 😆😆😆
Thank you so much Mr. Greene, you are someone worth watching!
Greetings From Venezuela
"If the victim is to be SACRIFICED" 😳
A man's gotta eat
Nuggets of gold in this ✨️ 💛 ✨️ 💛
I’m 100% convinced these tactics have been used on me for the past 2 years🤔
yup exactly, this book is great for self defense. I noticed it's always the ppl who come in our life by themselves. I don't trust ppl who approach me first or even give me alot of attention, I choose Who I want in my life, not who wants in my life.
Am I a bad person for manupilating the people around me? And learning more on how to do it even better, it's my way of staying safe and untouched in conflict or in getting help. So it's more an instinct.
depends on what your intentions are,how far you’re willing to go, how often you resort to deception, and under what circumstances you do so
its a way you are trying to fullfill you needs and wants, you tell me if it leads to peace, contentment and real intimacy. You are reliving patterns and not having to look at the why ect as long as you just go along with desire and avoid what you are afraid off
@@Puuws thank you this gives me rest
I love this cruel but necessary
I dont like how the relationship has been pursued in here , its like a manipulation tactic , i know itll work but it feels so wrong
This book doesn't judge anything through a moral lens. Do what you feel is right.
I rem reading this book about 12yrs ago in college
Anyone attempting to implement any of these tactics is necessarily insincere, unless you, withoit thought or motive, are innately seductive. In my opinion, sincerity is a most attractive characteristic, regardless of whether or not there is agreement in belief or understanding
yeah bc it indicates courage, it indicates you arnt led by conditioning
6:32 Tito’s image got me like 😮😅😅
bro thank you,another subscriber 1+
Thank you Mr. Greene
Thank you!
sounds very meaningful and very good
I’m in love with this book ❤ thank you Mr Greene
You've been seduced!
I don't get what these ethical people are trying to say. If you've been loved by a girl or someone, do you think that because of your look? No, it's because of your personality and energy, so you got the love of that girl but not other girls, which means that everybody loves some traits about others that make them fall in love with them, and what the book is providing are the traits that seduce each type of person, so you change your energy to be able to get their love, and about that being ethical or not, you cannot say it's not because your personality is already seducing some type of person, and you think that is okay, but you think changing the way you seduce is unethical because you're seeing people as pawns? It's all about ethics, and if you make others love you, that is a good thing for you and them to make a connection and win friendship and other things, and what is not ethical is you doing it just for playing them and then leaving them hurt after you betray them.
I love Robert Greene ❤
Outstanding!!!❤❤❤
I feel like this is a REAL GOOD way to end up 💀💀💀💀💀
6:09 is that jiddu krishnamurti . The great yoga teacher
Personally I found this video sickening, but some people do consciously crave toxic seduction. I think that it says a lot about people's emotional maturity.
Interesting that you put an image of Jiddu Krishnamurti... What I would give to have a discussion about him with Yourself, Mr. Greene!
Hi sir, i bought the book...what is the meaning of black and red oval shape printed on the book...its make me wonder..
Fun fact: Marilyn Monroe was tortured before her death.
Use it or be used
Being a natural siren can be very difficult due to the fact that somw women just hate me for no known reason but i just ignore there insecurities and continue being me❤❤
Is there no way to reach a longterm relationship without reseducing ?
I mean it works with close family without manipulation.
"The 'Art of Seduction' by Robert Greene is a captivating exploration of human desires and how to wield the power of seduction.
I’m a mix of a Dandy & Coquette.
Wow this was so dense with wisdom
You forgot the femme fatal, I think those are beyond sirens, they are destructive & in most cases sociopathic lol
Monsieur Robert ❤️
Wish I could get a woman to love me without being a sociopath
i was like you my friend. i used to think like you; i was (and am...IMO) physically unattractive, repellent, insecure and hopelessly romantic. my view on love was unrealistic and distorted.
i failed time and again with women, but then. after losing my soul in the process, i awoke, i realised that my natural authentic self was not enough;
i began attentively studying Roberts book "the art of seduction" every day and i am proud yet equally shameful to say that, it has worked with immense and frankly unexpected potency: i read, i pondered i considered and i eventually practiced. i now, with thanks to Robert and my arduous efforts have finally gotten a woman incredibly interested in me. she has feelings for me, she tells me she loves me. she has become dependent on me.
am i guilty? somewhat, do i regret it? not an ounce.
@@charlesbrent4297 what type are you??
definitely a mixture of the the rake and the charmer. more so the rake.@@afriend1743
I love that they shout out Patrice O'Neal
I don't know which one to be. How do you decide?
Forgive me Robert, but you are a fascinating man..God…I wish I find one like you
I have a question: Is this possible if someone is Siren and Coquette naturally ?
@RobertGreeneOfficial I have a question: Is this possible if someone is Siren and Coquette naturally ?
i have all this mindset when i was younger. but when i grow old it fades. i hope to have it back i know its within me. but its hard find ...
"Hell is other people."
Being one of these predators is it's own hell too.