might stream later to take questions and things might make a part 2 for my original video if i have the heart to, also for the person who was questioning about the Mar stuff, he didn't know for sure what Mar did (although now its confirmed by Stylis) so don't get angry at him over it
Man, I have sunk so many hours into this game over the years… unfortunately don’t feel comfortable touching it anymore. At least I still have the memories.
Man, it's just pure bitterness to see your childhood game that you started to play 9 years ago to fall in such a way. It was the first FPS genere game i played and I stayed so long near it, just to see it ruin in the most humiliating way possible. It would be better if it just slowly died losing his player count instead of this shet.
i've been happily ban evading for 2 years spreading this news. but it was always "you're a lolicon, you are literally worse than us" Who the fuck is right now, StyLiS?
Pretty hard considering if you spent 2 minutes to read the wiki you’d see that pedophillia is listed a mental illness under the dsm-5 as psychiatric disorder, so yeah it’s pretty hard considering it’s brain chemistry rather than an actual choice to be attracted to minors
There was a video covering this exact question (I forgot the name of it), but it explained that these people that are groomers never got out of their “high school mentality” and uses platforms like Roblox to lure in kids and manipulate them, as kids are really impressionable and easy to fool. It’s predator and prey and the platform and friendly impression is the lure. Something like this is bound to happen on a Roblox-based server.
@StriderPF I dont have a video unfortunately, but I noticed a lot of admins playing the game right now and if someone says anything about strider, pdf or anything related they get a 1 month chat ban
@@realkenshin2004if blox fruits has devs who are predators, scammed their people and are partnered with roblox alongside meepcity dev, PF has 0% probability of getting shutdown
Its super, super easy not to be a predator. I'm an autistic introvert- I SUCK with people, and can come off weird as hell. Still never been seriously accused of predatory behaviour. Almost like I use the almighty strategy of NOT HITTING ON KIDS
I do understand this somewhat. Maybe he had made a comment or so about a minor in a “joking” manner, and this was deemed as tolerable in his hiring, not knowing he legitimately talks to minors. I am being quite the devil’s advocate here, but a situation like this unfolding is quite likely a way that would make sense. After all, people are not prosecuted for making questionable jokes typically found on Instagram reels
I love that axis plays the victim card on the juke allegations. Taking 0 responsibility for letting that happen to him and uses his ignorance as an excuse
saying he got a taste of being one of Juke's victims was really not the best thing to say, I said more on that but I cut it out because it was too much for this video
@@StriderRBLX "We are working with staff to assess what we will do moving forward, how much staff we will have left, and how to make changes to our policy to provide a safe environment for the community." I know he's the lead developer, but it almost seems like by him saying this, Axis stepping down/being let go isn't going to be part of their plans. Maybe I'm reading too far into it but at this point I wouldn't put it past them.
9-10 years 1.6B visits One of the most iconic Roblox's fps, so far it shaped the whole fps genre on Roblox God knows how many childhoods were made with this game, Including mine It's sad it all ends this way 😭😭
@@Flattymin No it ain't, there's only a few FPS games that are similar to PF, other FPS games are unique to their own style and do not follow PF's style.
at 12:52, STYLIS LOST THE PLOT! They're basically saying that because something happend on OUR communications server, it is up for the COMMUNICATIONS COMPANY to proceed with further actions! If there is a car with a driver inside, and that driver purposefully decides to ram into a tree, is it the cars fault or the driver? Let that sink in
I don't think they study law or have lawyers/consultants who do like Discord does and have no clue what to do with him. For me, I would guess report to police but then what do you tell them? There's a predator on a media site, we don't know who he is, but here's the alias he used. Have fun.
@@GM_Neo shit can be tracked, most servers use 2 step, of which that uses your phone number, if you get access to that, (of which discord may give you), you can take them down
@@StriderRBLXlaughed my ass off when a friend sent that screenshot to me. isn’t that just confirming he did something if he has to ask? should be pretty easy to be clean when ur talking about predators..
Where was this image originally posted and was this just a public server? I swear I saw this in game before I knew anything about it and before I knew who anyone was.
The fact that the team is much more accusatory than apologetic makes me think they not only don't care, but it could be much worse than we already think.
Yeah they could be all pdfs but some of them actually have some intelligence to now show it in publicly anymore. If they all come out as pdfs I really hope the game gets deleted by roblox. Even though I love the game, I don't want pdfs to profit from a kids game.
@@ggslushythey probably are all pdfs. I believe the CEO is one due to his open tolerance of it and recently him personally blocking Ruben on twitter. If you’re not a pdf but you keep them around and cover your ears when people cry out for help and justice, you’re pretty much one in my books.
I am a moderator of another roblox's game discord server and we also had a similar but less public case of a PDF. We made a quick discussion before banning him whether or not he had done anything in our server, since we would not know if he would commit similar offences, and also could not give the benefit of doubt. This should be the way we deal with predatory behaviour, not the way Axis and his team did. In almost any case, any person who was weird should be dealt with according to their history, and should only be given a chance if there is compelling evidence of their innocence.
"To clarify, Juke's infractions were made known to us by BB's developers while he was already an existing PF content creator, but neither team realized the extent of Juke's predatory behaviors right away." sounds like they are saying they thought it was fine that juke talked to minors as long as he didn't go as far as he ended up going
@@Vl11x_Tuii It doesn’t. He’s describing that they saw it as some sort of “gradient.” He was talking to minors inappropriately? Okay, cool. He’s actually meeting minors? Omg now we have to do something. You see how that’s wrong?
@@Goaty_1 I shouldn’t have to be the one to explain or say this but feel free to use the internet or read the wiki: pedophillia/dsm-5 where it quite goes into depth like on talking to a minor and actually meeting a child. If you ever watched anything similar to catch a predator you might be able to make the connection that talking to a child alone isn’t incriminating enough but it’s the intent to follow up with meeting the child where they can actually take legal action especially when it’s “innocent till proven guilty” You see how that works?
When it comes to normal people or staff they don't like, they get outed and banned without a second thought. But when it comes to weirdos, pdf files, and staff that keep the status quo, suddenly they're giving the benefit of the doubt and "Second Chances". Disgusting hypocrites.
It’s not hypocrisy, it’s by design. They view furs and pdfs as a superior being over actual people, because inside they are mentally and genetically so inferior that they want to overcompensate.
I find this really funny because a majority of furries actually despise predators, and would definitely go out of their way to expose them or take matters into their own hands genuine crimes cannot be compared to what is essentially a hobby.
I remember about a year ago I was the only person playing the newest COR6 engine build thing, and AxisAngles joined. We had a very long discussion about different things to do with the way the game worked, and he even let me help with troubleshooting a bug I found in game while talking with him. He genuinely came off as a very good person to me, but this just proves how well some people can hide shameful things about themselves.
Most insane people have had their fair share of dicipline by their teachers or parents to not do weird shit in front of everyone. Because of this they grow up learning how to hide their insanity from people. Trust me I'm a bit mentally challenged and insane at the same time, I know how to be an actual grown up masculine man when people expect me to be one, but when there's noone around I'm acting like a 12 year old at 3am playing on the xbox 360 call of duty with open mic.
Could also forget, I'm not thinking about the time I stole legos from someone while I did schoolwork and that doesn't make me malicious. And still I don't live my life apologizing for being a thief and having hurt a real person before.
The ""Sincerely, StyLiS Studios" message at the end feels wrong to be there. As a former staff member (still staff during this whole thing), my opinion on the response that was given felt more like Lito's response. The response either way was extremely terrible.
Btw, one of the mods deactivated their roblox acc and wrote "thanks for everything" in the description of their discord acc (talking specifically about NanachiWithAShortGlock), I hope they're alright.
@@aat1a5 no idea, i wasn't really close to her and i don't want to ask that the one person that was, but as far as im aware she didn't have any mental health related issues
@@ResoluteEyes I saw a post from 2 months ago that said she had to take a mental break, I think it's fair to assume she's doing the same now given everything going on. Taking a break from socials or the internet in general for a while.
@@Mega-P71 anyone can be attracted to kids, it’s humanity’s curse, however it’s treated like a crime more than a disease, it can be cured, just like being heavily attracted to women, all things have a cure
@@toad7395 indeed, shady stuff is everywhere and has always hapenned, the only ones that end up destroyed are the ones that get exposed instead of hidden
> roblox furry developer > has external communications server > is predatory/gross in that server yea this isnt a one time thing its literally all of them that fit that checklist
"We have a lot to learn and improve with how we handle our community, but we will continue to make our best effort with our staff and core development team." Actions speak louder than words, so it would be nice to see actual repercussions. From watching content creator videos, as well as my own experience, it seems like the core development team has been the issue the whole time. Unless they decide to pass on the torch (of Phantom Forces development) to someone entirely new, then I think Phantom Forces' days are numbered.
I felt the same turning 18, but ive come to a really easy solution. step 1. I dont want to date kids step 2. I dont date kids step 3. I am not exposed for dating kids its super easy
this is sad, especially because we potentially could see one of the greatest roblox games (my own opinion) go down. Especially with the PF zombies in pre alpha. idk i feel like the funeral is in process now :/
This response from Stylis was a blatant effort to save face. There is NO WAY that AxisAngle couldn't have at least been COMPLICIT in all of this happening, much less guilty of his own wrongdoings. We need to signal boost this to the rest of the Roblox community, because clearly, unless Roblox themselves steps in, nothing is going to be done about all of this.
Wow. This might just be the end of Phantom Forces then, and with such a crazy timeline too. Just a month ago, Godstatus uploaded that 'Downfall of Phantom Forces' video. I guess it had been coming for a while.
I remember a long time ago, I was watching a Stylis Studio Twitch stream in which AxisAngle was talking about a predator (I think Juke) and how he was caught talking inappropriately to underage kids AGAIN. AxisAngle seemed very frustrated about it and was having difficulty controlling his anger. Lito was able to calm him down. I checked their Twitch and they haven't posted any of their VODs, so that may never be seen again.
tbh for me there's something way darker going on, this apology sounded so forced and defensive it wouldn't be weird if they've done worse things we may not ever know
I have played PF plenty back in the day and knew how iconic the game was. To see it all end in this manner is sad and infuriating. But even more infuriating how the devs handled all of these issues. PF needs new devs or just need to get shut down by Roblox at this point.
29:00 I believe what he means when he says "my position as a privileged male" is that women or minors tend to get taken advantage of/abused more often, due to being seen as weaker/inferior. He hasn't had any experience with things like that, and his chances of that happening are inherently lower. That doesn't fix that for me, cause i still think you should have more awareness when dealing with something like that
Also that seems like a copout, because I remember seeing a statistic that actually put it to where guys were more likely to be sexually abused as children, and women as adults. I could be wrong, but I remember seeing that.
Males are far from privileged. Who gets on the life boat first when a ship is sinking? Who is forced to register for war? Who is the one expected to sacrifice? Who is the one expected to protect others? Who gets treated like they are invisible? And many other things. If you think males are privileged you are living in a fantasy land.
I wish that I knew what was happening in that bloody server before I spent around 100 bucks on this game over the time I played it. To think that so many of those weird ass fucking conversations were happening publicly for anyone to see…
13:14 I think they just made up this part because if this fact had leaked and drew too much attention, people would investigate more about predators in their server and eventually find them
I made a comment on Striders last video about furries. Tell you what this is a typical response you get from them the whole "Oh, we didn't know what was going on." Excuse or not take responsibility for allowing blatant predators. Like with that Juke, they said in the apology that he got disciplinary action from Bad Business. However, being banned from a game won't stop him from still wanting to groom minors, though. If Stylis was actually intelligent, they'd have told him no, we don't want you in our community given your history, but instead, they let him in anyway. This why furries get such a bad rep because they do nothing or the bare minimum in dealing with predators in their community they brush it under the rug, but at this point, the rug is a mountain sized problem and has been in the furry fandom for years. It's like that scene in cartoons where they try and hide more stuff in a closet, and everything just explodes out.
I played phantom forces when it first came out. Stopped playing roblox after 2019, and seeing this is VERY disturbing. I am lucky I had no knowledge of discord’s existence when I was a minor.
Notice how Glare (a smaller roblox fps game) had our Community manager exposed as one of these kind of people, and the first thing Glare’s owner did was ban him.
I'm not siding with them but like, they are adults trying to put on a facade of professionalism, not that hard to picture them using fancy language to try to sound like they're in the right tbh, dont need chatgpt to do that
The lack of accountability and appropriate action in their failure to protect their community is enough to condemn. Still, the appearance that the top 3 (previously 4) notable developers are involved in the allegations in some way is the end. If you’ve been watching this and asking, “Is there even a way to come back from this?” Then, at this point, from the accumulated and continuing ‘lacklustre’ responses from the staff, no, there is no coming back. This is a stain you can’t wash out, gloss over, or sweep under the rug. It’s been a long time coming, this is the end for Stylis.
the fact that this happened so many times and for so long also sways the bar from "gross negligence" to "premeditation", not doing any changes until people find out and external community pressure is applied. axis would not have posted the apology if it wasn't for strider's video. shay already put up another vague excuse so that he doesn't have to talk about it. i believe most of it is gross negligence though, knowingly having problems but not doing anything about it for a community of 100k members. being responsible for the safety of the community and not taking action against underage users is also ethically questionable and borderline against ToS
It's depressing to see Phantom Forces go like this. They ruined the actual game itself by removing basically all of the things that made it fun, and making the meta even more frustrating to play against. And then these videos come out, showing what kind of people are behind the game and the community. It's such a shame that they couldn't just be decent developers, and more importantly; decent people in general. This game was basically all I used to spend my time on when I was still a kid, I'd play it every day after school and have a blast with it. Makes it all the more saddening to see how things have ended up, everything is just completely messed up with this game and the people behind it.
I hate how people say liking sexual drawings of lil kids is not a pedophile behavior and some try convincing you it isn't because "they're not real" like.... Bro.... You're attracted to a drawing of kids, that will 100% affect the person's brain and yes they'll think of normal kids sexually.
this is all incredibly heartbreaking to hear. I have played PF on and off since 2017 when i was just 10 years old. I had always realized that a large part of the community was “odd” and gave me some weird vibes but i never expected it to be this deeply rooted in the game. I never once went to the discord or any other form of communication within the community and i am now very grateful for that because of all of this coming out. It truly hurts to see a game that you’ve played nearly half your life to be a part of something so horrible. Thank you for bringing this to light strider it takes a lot of courage to blow the whistle on something this large.
There's a skin in Bas Business with Phantom Forces characters T-Posing and also a statue of the default skin in Bad Business and a Phantom Forces character either shaking hands or pointing guns at each other. It seems like they may have had ties. Maybe once you've pushed out a lot of info on Phantom Forces, maybe investigate Bad Business?
Nah aint no way that they are gonna prioritize bugs and exploits over serious allegations when they can barely fix the countless bugs and balancing issues that we encounter, and dont get me started on exploits lmfao. Lately I have been having the well known bug where I swap to my secondary, I click to shoot but it doesnt fire which has gotten me killed everytime defeating the purpose of a secondary at this point. This bug has been an issue since day one. Its crazy to think that Stylis is trying to be a professional game studio creating quality games and they act like this.
that's an actual bug? no wonder it's happened so many times to me also yeah they can NOT be that busy where removing skins off of a case needs YEARS lol they've put more effort in a tiny negligible thing than removing a preds skin off their game
Rarely comment, but this is just gold. I watched the previous video, and now this. Phantom forces was basically my childhood since like 2015, never knew any of this disgusting stuff was happening in the background. I wish I never gave my robux to these geeks, the owners are willfully ignorant at best, and their morals to be put into serious question (and harddrives thoroughly checked) at worst.
An absolute shame to see how this entire thing unfolded, almost no accountability for a situation that should never had happened in the first place. Phantom Forces was such an iconic game, being part of the childhood of so many people and it just hurts to see what went on and how it's being dealt with so poorly...
might stream later to take questions and things
might make a part 2 for my original video if i have the heart to, also for the person who was questioning about the Mar stuff, he didn't know for sure what Mar did (although now its confirmed by Stylis) so don't get angry at him over it
How can you continue to play Phantom after all this?
@@cyberdiver6072 i wont be playing phantom forces after this.
rizzy drizzy
i like apples and bananas
@@StriderRBLX
Can you do a video on Adrenaline?( FPS movement shooter)
>roblox game
>child predators
Yeah that tracks
> child game
> predators
@@kave_devYeah that tracks
@@AveragePDGamer
>child
>predators
> internet
> predators
Yeah that tracks
game involves furries + lgbtq and is for kids, it should be expected..
Devs rn be like:
Sir a second strider video has hit the stylis studio
MR PRIESDENT THEY HIT THE SECOND STUDIO
MR. PRESIDENT, GET DOWN!!!
I imagine that their discussion channel is like that one spongebob scene where SpongeBob's braincells are running around and panicking
we need a third strider video to hit the stylis studio
THEY HIT THE STUDIO!!!!!
They nerfed the movement so the minors couldn't run away.
SO THAT'S WHY
HAHAHA 😂
Sus profile pic
@@TheRealName7 saying sus in 2025 is mad unfunny vro, leave that shis in 2020 dawg
@@TheRealName7you're def a gen alpha
they focus on children more than the updates 💔
ur pfp is literally me
A dozen of youtubers were predicting the downfall of Roblox since 2020, it all starts now, with exposing game devs
Man, I have sunk so many hours into this game over the years… unfortunately don’t feel comfortable touching it anymore. At least I still have the memories.
_t o u c h_
@flooku987 is it okay if I touch you?
@flooku987 unfortunate choosing of words
“Guys we investigated ourselves and found little wrongdoing, don't worry guys!!!!!!!!!" - StyLiS Studios
pulling out the CIA classic
real bigmotor hours (watch the japanalysis video if you don't know)
mrbeast type shit
sounds like a certain government i know
don't forget, the people who actually investigated us? Yea, they are just slandering us
Its actually so bitersweet to see this go down after playing this game for so long
Man, it's just pure bitterness to see your childhood game that you started to play 9 years ago to fall in such a way. It was the first FPS genere game i played and I stayed so long near it, just to see it ruin in the most humiliating way possible. It would be better if it just slowly died losing his player count instead of this shet.
dude its just so easy NOT to touch children though
i've been happily ban evading for 2 years spreading this news. but it was always "you're a lolicon, you are literally worse than us"
Who the fuck is right now, StyLiS?
@D.UBS.tbh after the movement changes I knew it was cooked
@@FishbedFive…
This is just crazy. How hard is it to just not be a predator.
2025 coming in with a bang. I thought we left the PDF's back in 2024.
chronically online dude hours
Pretty hard considering if you spent 2 minutes to read the wiki you’d see that pedophillia is listed a mental illness under the dsm-5 as psychiatric disorder, so yeah it’s pretty hard considering it’s brain chemistry rather than an actual choice to be attracted to minors
discord 8 hr dweller try not to chat kids challenge [ impossible ]
roblox players whenever they have to have self control
They make it look harder than a jigsaw game
What's the whole mentality that makes you like kids? like honestly how does one become sexually attracted to kids. Thats so weird.
It can stem from some sort of trauma, usually from being the victim themselves... not always, obviously.
Maybe proportions idfk
@@aat1a5 Proportions is wild 💀
There was a video covering this exact question (I forgot the name of it), but it explained that these people that are groomers never got out of their “high school mentality” and uses platforms like Roblox to lure in kids and manipulate them, as kids are really impressionable and easy to fool. It’s predator and prey and the platform and friendly impression is the lure. Something like this is bound to happen on a Roblox-based server.
@@aat1a5 bro ur cooked
They are banning people for talking about this situation ingame , they banned me and all the people I seen that spoke about it
If you can get video of that happening dm me it
@StriderPF I dont have a video unfortunately, but I noticed a lot of admins playing the game right now and if someone says anything about strider, pdf or anything related they get a 1 month chat ban
I’ll try to get a vid.
Bruh😂
Use multiple alts and do it to see what happene
It's quite a shame, I have a lot of good memories on this game.
Either it's going to shutdown or other devs will take hold the game
@@realkenshin2004why would it shut down its still printing money
fire pfp
I genuinely enjoyed playing this game back then. It's a shame to hear about this years later...
@@realkenshin2004if blox fruits has devs who are predators, scammed their people and are partnered with roblox alongside meepcity dev, PF has 0% probability of getting shutdown
I got chat banned for like 2 months for calling the game "diddy forces" in game
lmao
Diddy forces is crazy bro. But honestly funny and accurate.
1984
Axisangle - diddy
Juke - Jay z
Willow/cid9 - lebron James
Wolfdawgz - Meek Mill
@@mikebobaguard7252where's drake
"But neither team realized the extent of Jukes predatory behavior" EXTENT? any predatory behavior should omit any chance of a partnership....
Its super, super easy not to be a predator. I'm an autistic introvert- I SUCK with people, and can come off weird as hell.
Still never been seriously accused of predatory behaviour. Almost like I use the almighty strategy of NOT HITTING ON KIDS
they're treating it as if its its not black and white, you either did or didn't do it.
@@crispy7499no dog cus like GENUINELY. Just do NOT try to talk to kids 😭 how hard is that.
I do understand this somewhat. Maybe he had made a comment or so about a minor in a “joking” manner, and this was deemed as tolerable in his hiring, not knowing he legitimately talks to minors. I am being quite the devil’s advocate here, but a situation like this unfolding is quite likely a way that would make sense. After all, people are not prosecuted for making questionable jokes typically found on Instagram reels
@@memeymeme. Very few things in life are black and white.
This is one of those things.
classifying pedophiliac comments as "immaturity" at 20 y/o is fucking wild
It should be classified as freaky
Lgtv people for ya!
^^@@TheRealName7
What did you expect from the alphabet folk and the furries?
@@TheRealName7 ^^ Example of real immaturity
"How much staff we have left" is an INSANE part of a response
AKA: Let us root out who leaked messages to strider, and who is leaving due to all of this piled up evidence!
I love that axis plays the victim card on the juke allegations. Taking 0 responsibility for letting that happen to him and uses his ignorance as an excuse
saying he got a taste of being one of Juke's victims was really not the best thing to say, I said more on that but I cut it out because it was too much for this video
@@StriderRBLX "We are working with staff to assess what we will do moving forward, how much staff we will have left, and how to make changes to our policy to provide a safe environment for the community." I know he's the lead developer, but it almost seems like by him saying this, Axis stepping down/being let go isn't going to be part of their plans. Maybe I'm reading too far into it but at this point I wouldn't put it past them.
@@StriderRBLX I met Axis and he seemed like a really nice dude online, scary how people can be predators just like that.
@@user-ko3te7oy6dyeah axis is a really smart guy aswell, sad to see he’s done this
@@caboose8110 how hard is it not diddle kids dude, is it THAT HARD
9-10 years
1.6B visits
One of the most iconic Roblox's fps, so far it shaped the whole fps genre on Roblox
God knows how many childhoods were made with this game, Including mine
It's sad it all ends this way 😭😭
"Shaped the whole fps genre on Roblox"
the glazing is crazy 🙏
@@TacticalAnthonyits the truth.
@@Flattymin No it ain't, there's only a few FPS games that are similar to PF, other FPS games are unique to their own style and do not follow PF's style.
You can still play the game
God knows how many childhoods were destroyed with this game(‘s developers) too
As a former minor, thank you for bringing this to light
Lmao
I was a former minor too!
Tectone reference?
As a current minecraft player, what's the best mob farm?
@@MorktheMonEither creepers or skeletons I think I haven't played in a bit
at 12:52, STYLIS LOST THE PLOT! They're basically saying that because something happend on OUR communications server, it is up for the COMMUNICATIONS COMPANY to proceed with further actions! If there is a car with a driver inside, and that driver purposefully decides to ram into a tree, is it the cars fault or the driver?
Let that sink in
They should do something about it, if it was in roblox, on discord anything is to happen someday
i read this in the voice of that one black lawyer guy on youtube shorts
I don't think they study law or have lawyers/consultants who do like Discord does and have no clue what to do with him. For me, I would guess report to police but then what do you tell them? There's a predator on a media site, we don't know who he is, but here's the alias he used. Have fun.
@@GM_Neo shit can be tracked, most servers use 2 step, of which that uses your phone number, if you get access to that, (of which discord may give you), you can take them down
@vincentashton5134 so telling Discord was the right thing to do since they have the phone numbers?
I audibly laughed out loud at 31:39 with lito asking "am I clean." 💀
Somebody dmed me the screenshot of those messages and just said “is he stupid?”
@@StriderRBLXlaughed my ass off when a friend sent that screenshot to me.
isn’t that just confirming he did something if he has to ask? should be pretty easy to be clean when ur talking about predators..
Where was this image originally posted and was this just a public server? I swear I saw this in game before I knew anything about it and before I knew who anyone was.
Nah, i think he didnt knew about axis and the other's actions, like hes just memeing about his game's downfall
Hell nah litozin
The fact that the team is much more accusatory than apologetic makes me think they not only don't care, but it could be much worse than we already think.
There is a very high chance they are all into kids and just covering for themselves
never goon to kids 😤😤😤
I'm sure they have more things to hide.
Yeah they could be all pdfs but some of them actually have some intelligence to now show it in publicly anymore. If they all come out as pdfs I really hope the game gets deleted by roblox. Even though I love the game, I don't want pdfs to profit from a kids game.
@@ggslushythey probably are all pdfs. I believe the CEO is one due to his open tolerance of it and recently him personally blocking Ruben on twitter. If you’re not a pdf but you keep them around and cover your ears when people cry out for help and justice, you’re pretty much one in my books.
holy, I dont think ive seen a worse response
PF needs new ownership before i consider playing again
thanks man and i have no idea if new ownership is even in the realm of possibility
@@StriderRBLX give me owner, i will save this game
NRVN for PF owner 2025
I support NRVM
@@NRVNQSRRlet's make phantom forces great again
bro this shit is insane! ive played phantom forces since like 2017 man, never knew all of this was happening in the background. this is awful
that's why i never play the games made by furries 🙏
@@kave_dev I hadn't even known it was made by furries, if I had I probably would have quit long ago because this was bound to happen.
@@ericlemmon9342Anti simply existing should’ve been a red flag
@@ericlemmon9342 No you wouldn't have lmao
@@kave_dev Yeah no offense but why were most of the devs and lead devs furries with weird fetishes and said weird shit
I am a moderator of another roblox's game discord server and we also had a similar but less public case of a PDF.
We made a quick discussion before banning him whether or not he had done anything in our server, since we would not know if he would commit similar offences, and also could not give the benefit of doubt. This should be the way we deal with predatory behaviour, not the way Axis and his team did.
In almost any case, any person who was weird should be dealt with according to their history, and should only be given a chance if there is compelling evidence of their innocence.
There's also a case of a PDF file in another ROBLOX game, however the allegations were made public after he committed suicide after one month.
These predators are become so common that sooner is part of a woke culture
@@keeping3118 literal adults are talking to kids and your worry is woke culture.
@
Yes because woke culture allows pedophilia at it’s peak, there’s even a flag for these specific people
@@keeping3118They always existed yet in your head is "woke" fault.
i saw someone say they nerfed the movement so the kids couldnt run away
they right
"To clarify, Juke's infractions were made known to us by BB's developers while he was already an existing PF content creator, but neither team realized the extent of Juke's predatory behaviors right away."
sounds like they are saying they thought it was fine that juke talked to minors as long as he didn't go as far as he ended up going
That’s completely contradicts what was quoted
Pedo forces ahh
@@Vl11x_Tuii It doesn’t. He’s describing that they saw it as some sort of “gradient.” He was talking to minors inappropriately? Okay, cool. He’s actually meeting minors? Omg now we have to do something.
You see how that’s wrong?
@@Goaty_1 I shouldn’t have to be the one to explain or say this but feel free to use the internet or read the wiki: pedophillia/dsm-5 where it quite goes into depth like on talking to a minor and actually meeting a child.
If you ever watched anything similar to catch a predator you might be able to make the connection that talking to a child alone isn’t incriminating enough but it’s the intent to follow up with meeting the child where they can actually take legal action especially when it’s “innocent till proven guilty”
You see how that works?
When it comes to normal people or staff they don't like, they get outed and banned without a second thought.
But when it comes to weirdos, pdf files, and staff that keep the status quo, suddenly they're giving the benefit of the doubt and "Second Chances".
Disgusting hypocrites.
people worship hypocrites nowadays, it sucks
it'd be friendly fire if they did lol
It’s not hypocrisy, it’s by design. They view furs and pdfs as a superior being over actual people, because inside they are mentally and genetically so inferior that they want to overcompensate.
Theyre weird and gay
I'm glad I'm not the only one with this feeling of hypocrisy from them over the years.
The Phantom Forces situation just got even crazier…
Peep ahh moment
honestly if charlie made another channel like TOC where he just goes over roblox controversies, i'd be binging all the videos
average morepegasus/moreslop title
*adds face of mrbeast in the thumbnail because you might as well*
2020 ass comment
Furrys and predators is not how I envisioned my childhood game to crumble to 😭😭
I find this really funny because a majority of furries actually despise predators, and would definitely go out of their way to expose them or take matters into their own hands
genuine crimes cannot be compared to what is essentially a hobby.
@@joqkidroblox2598 you should be as worried of them being a predator as any other person, its just how the internet is.
@@axain7784but how can they hate them if they dress up as predators (this is a joke)
Roblox furries have odd stuff going on
@@joqkidroblox2598 give it a couple years bro
"and improve how we handle our community," yeah its called not hiring pedos and when they get outed as one, just fire them
Everyday we learn more about the damage they did, and everyday I’m more disgusted
isnt it so funny that just as you returned to the game the biggest allegations come out 😭😭
@@silverz5839😭
@@silverz5839Literally. Didn't play it for multiple years and then this shit happened.
@@silverz5839 , I am in pure shock, I came back after around a year and that's what I see
girliepop pulled up to make one (1) video then the whole community blew up 😭
crazy how i called the callie ban as a coverup when it originally had just happened and people thought i was tweaking lmao. goated vid
I remember about a year ago I was the only person playing the newest COR6 engine build thing, and AxisAngles joined. We had a very long discussion about different things to do with the way the game worked, and he even let me help with troubleshooting a bug I found in game while talking with him. He genuinely came off as a very good person to me, but this just proves how well some people can hide shameful things about themselves.
This proves he's good at manipulation.
Most insane people have had their fair share of dicipline by their teachers or parents to not do weird shit in front of everyone. Because of this they grow up learning how to hide their insanity from people. Trust me I'm a bit mentally challenged and insane at the same time, I know how to be an actual grown up masculine man when people expect me to be one, but when there's noone around I'm acting like a 12 year old at 3am playing on the xbox 360 call of duty with open mic.
Could also forget, I'm not thinking about the time I stole legos from someone while I did schoolwork and that doesn't make me malicious.
And still I don't live my life apologizing for being a thief and having hurt a real person before.
New sub, sticking around. Thank you for making all of this known and i await the part 2 if it is to come out.
Youre a damn good man.
thanks man i appreciate the support
This is the part 2…
@ the pinned comment in question:
Your honour, their apology was an entire doc, case dismissed.
The ""Sincerely, StyLiS Studios" message at the end feels wrong to be there. As a former staff member (still staff during this whole thing), my opinion on the response that was given felt more like Lito's response. The response either way was extremely terrible.
It feels at this point lito’s just trying to desperately save his reputation
Ruben sim is abt to drop a crazy vid a month from now
hEy I said this first ;_;
bro's probably not even gonna make a vid on this cuz it's just proving his long standing beliefs for the 94th time
@@atmosphereventbutton how so
@@wfr878He thinks all furries are pedo
he's in hot water with dukdolan rn
Btw, one of the mods deactivated their roblox acc and wrote "thanks for everything" in the description of their discord acc (talking specifically about NanachiWithAShortGlock), I hope they're alright.
@@ResoluteEyes Damn, hope they didn't do anything stupid.
Were they alright? (I mean, were they clean?)
@@aat1a5 no idea, i wasn't really close to her and i don't want to ask that the one person that was, but as far as im aware she didn't have any mental health related issues
There's a deleted youtube with that name too, I do hope they're alright. This whole situation is just hurting people, it's sad.
@RealOsquo she took the mod position extremely seriously, so i imagine... The whole thing is a mess
@@ResoluteEyes I saw a post from 2 months ago that said she had to take a mental break, I think it's fair to assume she's doing the same now given everything going on. Taking a break from socials or the internet in general for a while.
it cant be this hard to stay away from kids
It’s actually harder than you think
Only if you hate children then you are never to be exposed as one
@@keeping3118bro is not beating the allegations
@@keeping3118?
@@keeping3118 I think he means being attracted to kids and not just working with kids or being around kids
@@Mega-P71 anyone can be attracted to kids, it’s humanity’s curse, however it’s treated like a crime more than a disease, it can be cured, just like being heavily attracted to women, all things have a cure
"But neither team realized the extent of Juke's predatory behaviors right away". RIGHT AWAY, I couldn't make this up even if I tried
Thanks for clarifying the attempted coverup from willow.
They pulled out the "we are sorry you feel that way"
The way they tried playing the victim card was so funny lol. Instead of apologizing they just said "whoops my bad"
It's crazy how many roblox devs have been exposed for similar things, roblox needs to take action 😭
(they wont, just like how its still an issue with discord as a whole.)
Are you foolish enough to even think that they will do anything, whatsoever? The Epsteins make Roblox money, so they won’t do absolutely Jack diddily.
Roblox actually endorses them
If david basuzicki is one, then there’s no hopes of that lol
its a roblox things, its a game with kids, there is nothing to prevent kids from comunicating, things like that will always happen
Why is everyone getting exposed nowadays, such a shame to see one of my favorite games on Roblox end up like this
There's still a lot of shady stuff happening everywhere . We're just uncovering a small part of it
In modern times it is harder to hide and easier to expose. And there are so many...
@@toad7395 indeed, shady stuff is everywhere and has always hapenned, the only ones that end up destroyed are the ones that get exposed instead of hidden
> roblox furry developer
> has external communications server
> is predatory/gross in that server
yea this isnt a one time thing its literally all of them that fit that checklist
"We have a lot to learn and improve with how we handle our community, but we will continue to make our best effort with our staff and core development team." Actions speak louder than words, so it would be nice to see actual repercussions. From watching content creator videos, as well as my own experience, it seems like the core development team has been the issue the whole time. Unless they decide to pass on the torch (of Phantom Forces development) to someone entirely new, then I think Phantom Forces' days are numbered.
bro now im scared of becoming 18 😭😭
Sounds like an episode of Kids Next Door
But seriously reading this is sad, yall shouldn't have to go through stuff like this
I felt the same turning 18, but ive come to a really easy solution.
step 1. I dont want to date kids
step 2. I dont date kids
step 3. I am not exposed for dating kids
its super easy
I might just be stupid, but why??
You have nothing to worry about as long as you’re not attracted to children.
there is a reason why there are people don't want to wake up
I love how their exact same excuse on literally half of these cases is “We knew he groomed kids but we didn’t know it was THAT bad!”
this is sad, especially because we potentially could see one of the greatest roblox games (my own opinion) go down. Especially with the PF zombies in pre alpha. idk i feel like the funeral is in process now :/
Aint no party like a Stylis party
30:35 Gives me "I investigated myself and found no wrong doing" vibes. Like wtf do you mean you'll deal with the consequences
Man didn't fuckin Nathorix try pulling this 💀
This response from Stylis was a blatant effort to save face. There is NO WAY that AxisAngle couldn't have at least been COMPLICIT in all of this happening, much less guilty of his own wrongdoings. We need to signal boost this to the rest of the Roblox community, because clearly, unless Roblox themselves steps in, nothing is going to be done about all of this.
Even though you’re done with Phantom Forces, I’ll follow you to whatever new gaming venture you take.
Wow. This might just be the end of Phantom Forces then, and with such a crazy timeline too. Just a month ago, Godstatus uploaded that 'Downfall of Phantom Forces' video. I guess it had been coming for a while.
I remember a long time ago, I was watching a Stylis Studio Twitch stream in which AxisAngle was talking about a predator (I think Juke) and how he was caught talking inappropriately to underage kids AGAIN. AxisAngle seemed very frustrated about it and was having difficulty controlling his anger. Lito was able to calm him down. I checked their Twitch and they haven't posted any of their VODs, so that may never be seen again.
tbh for me there's something way darker going on, this apology sounded so forced and defensive it wouldn't be weird if they've done worse things we may not ever know
united healthcare ahh response
Luigi's Mansion save us 🙏
Imagine if the actual response given to United Healtcare was used to answer Stylus...
used to play this game a shit ton back when i couldn't afford COD, the downfall on this game is crazy
We need to get more eyes on this situation
Do they not realize that calling the “oh I didn’t know” card still makes them look really bad and inept in protecting their community?
it's their only play
They should make an apology video playing an ukulele in it.
Toxic gossip trainnnn
I have played PF plenty back in the day and knew how iconic the game was. To see it all end in this manner is sad and infuriating. But even more infuriating how the devs handled all of these issues. PF needs new devs or just need to get shut down by Roblox at this point.
29:00 I believe what he means when he says "my position as a privileged male" is that women or minors tend to get taken advantage of/abused more often, due to being seen as weaker/inferior. He hasn't had any experience with things like that, and his chances of that happening are inherently lower. That doesn't fix that for me, cause i still think you should have more awareness when dealing with something like that
If he gets sent to prison, he's getting reprivilaged the second soap slips out
Also that seems like a copout, because I remember seeing a statistic that actually put it to where guys were more likely to be sexually abused as children, and women as adults. I could be wrong, but I remember seeing that.
Males are far from privileged. Who gets on the life boat first when a ship is sinking? Who is forced to register for war? Who is the one expected to sacrifice? Who is the one expected to protect others? Who gets treated like they are invisible? And many other things. If you think males are privileged you are living in a fantasy land.
@@linnymiddy Ew, maybe don't make prison rape jokes?
such a shitty situation man, been playing this game since middle school, this hurts
I wouldn't want Ruben to cover this because he has such a mid/bad rep at this point it'd make less people take this situation seriously.
Not to mention the allegations about him and his motely crew.......
What alligations?
ruben sim has the mindset of that guy from ww2 italy whose surname rhymes with "tortellini"
bro what allegations does he have
honestly
roblox needs to be investigated
like why is there more and more pred devs every week?
Not just always roblox having preds and pedos. Other video games and video game platforms have way worser predators and pedophilians.
Terrible moderation
I wish that I knew what was happening in that bloody server before I spent around 100 bucks on this game over the time I played it. To think that so many of those weird ass fucking conversations were happening publicly for anyone to see…
crazy that on the other side of the Roblox main page, Loomian legacy had this issue too and was covered by LuckyHD.
13:14 I think they just made up this part because if this fact had leaked and drew too much attention, people would investigate more about predators in their server and eventually find them
⚠⚠ 11:45 this staff member has since been fired for having illict chats with minors and threatening no live when called out
Furries 🤷
Nice you copied the “shocking, sand found on beach” from the last video
not bad
yet no ban, still in the server as retired moderator
@@Ray_xixnot a furry tho
I made a comment on Striders last video about furries. Tell you what this is a typical response you get from them the whole "Oh, we didn't know what was going on." Excuse or not take responsibility for allowing blatant predators. Like with that Juke, they said in the apology that he got disciplinary action from Bad Business. However, being banned from a game won't stop him from still wanting to groom minors, though. If Stylis was actually intelligent, they'd have told him no, we don't want you in our community given your history, but instead, they let him in anyway. This why furries get such a bad rep because they do nothing or the bare minimum in dealing with predators in their community they brush it under the rug, but at this point, the rug is a mountain sized problem and has been in the furry fandom for years. It's like that scene in cartoons where they try and hide more stuff in a closet, and everything just explodes out.
I played phantom forces when it first came out. Stopped playing roblox after 2019, and seeing this is VERY disturbing. I am lucky I had no knowledge of discord’s existence when I was a minor.
It's over. Our childhood game giants on roblox going down one by one starting with PF and continuing onward. This is a fuckin tragedy,
It ended when Lito shut down call of robloxia after the update ruined it. Updates on PF were basically cash grabs at that point t
Now I know how Rurouni Kenshin fans feel when they found out the artist for their favorite manga had terabytes of cp.
speaking as a kenshin fan... yeah. this is happening all over again.
Yeah that shit sucks
Notice how Glare (a smaller roblox fps game) had our Community manager exposed as one of these kind of people, and the first thing Glare’s owner did was ban him.
PF admins really thought it was a good idea to use chatgpt, words like "akin" is not used in this format unless chatgpt wrote it
I'm not siding with them but like, they are adults trying to put on a facade of professionalism, not that hard to picture them using fancy language to try to sound like they're in the right tbh, dont need chatgpt to do that
Akin to this comment, it is widely used in English to formalize any text.
It's always the people that act professional all day 💀
The lack of accountability and appropriate action in their failure to protect their community is enough to condemn. Still, the appearance that the top 3 (previously 4) notable developers are involved in the allegations in some way is the end.
If you’ve been watching this and asking, “Is there even a way to come back from this?” Then, at this point, from the accumulated and continuing ‘lacklustre’ responses from the staff, no, there is no coming back.
This is a stain you can’t wash out, gloss over, or sweep under the rug. It’s been a long time coming, this is the end for Stylis.
the fact that this happened so many times and for so long also sways the bar from "gross negligence" to "premeditation", not doing any changes until people find out and external community pressure is applied. axis would not have posted the apology if it wasn't for strider's video. shay already put up another vague excuse so that he doesn't have to talk about it. i believe most of it is gross negligence though, knowingly having problems but not doing anything about it for a community of 100k members. being responsible for the safety of the community and not taking action against underage users is also ethically questionable and borderline against ToS
Damn, I haven’t played in 2 years and seeing this unfold is just sad.
Another year, another loss for the OGs.
It's depressing to see Phantom Forces go like this. They ruined the actual game itself by removing basically all of the things that made it fun, and making the meta even more frustrating to play against. And then these videos come out, showing what kind of people are behind the game and the community. It's such a shame that they couldn't just be decent developers, and more importantly; decent people in general. This game was basically all I used to spend my time on when I was still a kid, I'd play it every day after school and have a blast with it. Makes it all the more saddening to see how things have ended up, everything is just completely messed up with this game and the people behind it.
I miss the spas12 birdshot and 4 kdr games 😭😭😭😭
I hate how people say liking sexual drawings of lil kids is not a pedophile behavior and some try convincing you it isn't because "they're not real" like.... Bro.... You're attracted to a drawing of kids, that will 100% affect the person's brain and yes they'll think of normal kids sexually.
fr. it's 100% a gateway thing.
And people on Twitter will say that this is 100% legal and tell you to kys for disagreeing
It should not be acceptable. If you try to defend it, we already know you dont deserve trust.
people like u make me lose hope in the internet, I wish I didnt learn english tbh
Oh just got to this part but @ 24:52 where he calls it “edgy jokes” is literally jjst a repeat of the Chris Tyson controversy lmao
We don’t claim them, we can do that right?
Idk abt that one big dawg
Phantom Forces: ❌
Apex Predator Forces: ✔️
nah it should be just Predator forces
The issue is that Ruben sim also did protect a predator but I forgot who was it so.. I don’t really have a solid point.
Yeah lol ima need more context to believe you lol
@ I’ll probably try to find more sources but im outside for the entire day 🫠
@@rogerxu aye so just some out of context madness.
Hardly believed it, Ruben has some justly aggressive hate aginst anything of the such.
@@In-Nihilum It was TravyTrav, DukDolan made a video about it.
@ yep I agree, let’s just wait for a response from the two sides of the story.
Bro why is 2025 worse than 2024 like it’s ben 12 days
this is all incredibly heartbreaking to hear. I have played PF on and off since 2017 when i was just 10 years old. I had always realized that a large part of the community was “odd” and gave me some weird vibes but i never expected it to be this deeply rooted in the game. I never once went to the discord or any other form of communication within the community and i am now very grateful for that because of all of this coming out. It truly hurts to see a game that you’ve played nearly half your life to be a part of something so horrible. Thank you for bringing this to light strider it takes a lot of courage to blow the whistle on something this large.
There's a skin in Bas Business with Phantom Forces characters T-Posing and also a statue of the default skin in Bad Business and a Phantom Forces character either shaking hands or pointing guns at each other. It seems like they may have had ties. Maybe once you've pushed out a lot of info on Phantom Forces, maybe investigate Bad Business?
bb devs have confirmed that they are now cutting ties with pf
@@avril_existing W
If rubensim makes a video abt it he'll just say it's furries fault and then put another homophobic wojak on screen 💀
NOT LE HECKIN INCOMPREHENSIBLE WOAHJAKS
@@alimehrabi519r2"le hecking" in 2025🙏💔💔
Incomprehensible woah jacks
as much as I hate ruben sim his input on this situation would be insane, since he is quite known to be able to dig deep with his researches
Nah aint no way that they are gonna prioritize bugs and exploits over serious allegations when they can barely fix the countless bugs and balancing issues that we encounter, and dont get me started on exploits lmfao. Lately I have been having the well known bug where I swap to my secondary, I click to shoot but it doesnt fire which has gotten me killed everytime defeating the purpose of a secondary at this point. This bug has been an issue since day one. Its crazy to think that Stylis is trying to be a professional game studio creating quality games and they act like this.
that's an actual bug? no wonder it's happened so many times to me
also yeah they can NOT be that busy where removing skins off of a case needs YEARS lol they've put more effort in a tiny negligible thing than removing a preds skin off their game
The response from the team was just down right unprofessional and essentially downplays everything that took place.
hope everything goes well for you strider 🙏🙏
Rarely comment, but this is just gold. I watched the previous video, and now this. Phantom forces was basically my childhood since like 2015, never knew any of this disgusting stuff was happening in the background. I wish I never gave my robux to these geeks, the owners are willfully ignorant at best, and their morals to be put into serious question (and harddrives thoroughly checked) at worst.
31:39 bro... Out of trillions of different combinations of words. he asked, "am i clean".
An absolute shame to see how this entire thing unfolded, almost no accountability for a situation that should never had happened in the first place. Phantom Forces was such an iconic game, being part of the childhood of so many people and it just hurts to see what went on and how it's being dealt with so poorly...
Finally. I got banned in game and in server for being right lmao, ive been banned for 4 years now, good to see all of this shit happen