The Gospel of Matthew is Pure Brilliance!
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Most readers completely overlook Matthew's portrayal of Jesus as the Jewish Messiah who fulfills the Jewish Law AND insists that his followers do so as well (What? Jesus' followers have to KEEP the Law of Moses?). But Matthew conveys exactly that message loud and clear in some passages and with brilliant ingenuity in others, including some that are widely familiar but not widely understood. Think: the magi.
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Instead of regular TV, I watch this stuff & online classes.❤❤❤
Sameeeee
Me too.
Liars, they lie. 8.04 he touches his nose as does Pinnochio..Only the Gospel of Matthew is true. Everyone on media is a liar. Read the Gospel of Matthew AND ONLY the Gospel of Matthew. Jesus Saves.
TV??? What’s that?
@@magsmcginty3929 so are you saying this video is lies?
I like how the editor cut nothing they asked them to
they wanted us to know these are real people and not AI.
Watching Bart Erhman's public journey is a chance to watch history being formed. His effect on religious scholarship will be long remembered I suspect and hope.
Liars, they lie. 8.04 he touches his nose as does Pinnochio..Only the Gospel of Matthew is true. Everyone on media is a liar. Read the Gospel of Matthew AND ONLY the Gospel of Matthew. Jesus Saves.
He will be remembered as a good scholar of the early twentieth century
I dislike him on a personal level, however he does test my faith and raises so many fascinating questions.
@@notsocrates9529why do you dislike him on a personal level? He seems more Christian than most Christians and he’s an atheist.
@@notsocrates9529 you dislike him on a personal level. Alright then. And would Jesus be proud of you for harboring hatred in your heart?
Bart and Megan (and behind the scenes team), you are doing such a great job. As a longtime fan of you both I am just loving the show! I look forward to every Tuesday for a new episode!
Agree
Lol, 🤣
Adderall and echo chambers.
Big time Ditto!!
It is through Matthew that paul is exposed as the ultimate weapon of Rome. Emperor Constantine changed the Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday in 325AD, stole Hebrews Truth and History with God and called that the Old Testament while ripping off the document the apostles were using then in the earliest churches called the Gospel of the Holy 12. Relaxed all the Laws and sold themselves to riches with the book in every Sunday Church.
Matthew 5: 17 - 20 17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19 Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven.
If I say anything in oppose to Christ, am I not a liar?
Romans 10:4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to those who believe.
www.britannica.com/event/First-Council-of-Nicaea-325
Megan is such a great interviewer… it is very useful to have her asking the questions we might wonder as we struggle to understand the depths of the material that Bart presents
I had previously listened to this video, and yet found there was so much that I missed the first time around. I think this presentation illustrates what can be fascinating about the Bible … beyond its theological content
I like the format of this show. Megan is a class act and interacts so well with Bart.
Yeah Their glass matches like their 😂😂😅..
Liars, they lie. 8.04 he touches his nose as does Pinnochio..Only the Gospel of Matthew is true. Everyone on media is a liar. Read the Gospel of Matthew AND ONLY the Gospel of Matthew. Jesus Saves.
@@magsmcginty3929 You only uttered an ad-hominem argument. Do you have actual arguments regarding this video?
I wish we could produce a movie of the book of Mark, only including details apparent in that text. Then produce a movie based on the book of Matthew, again only including details found in that text. Then Luke, then John, never cross-interpreting or trying to create one cohesive story between all the gospels. I would even like to get all different casts and crew for each movie.
I think people would be amazed to see how different each movie will be.
Have you seen or heard of the Visual Bible's "Matthew" starring Bruce Marchiano. It was a word for word script.
There are such movies available on UA-cam. I would suggest that you first watch the movie “John” which is a word for word re-enactment of the Gospel of John as recorded in the New Testament.
@@joekirbyjr I'm glad to hear such movies exist! But John was the last gospel written, and the point of making the movies in order was to demonstrate how the story changed and grew over time. It would not help to start at the end like that.
That sounds like a great idea.
Bart's background: white bookshelves. Megan's background: DARKNESS.
Evidence of creeping Manichaeism!
I covet Bart’s white bookshelves, but I promise not to steal them.
Jesus Christ Superstar. Bart and I are the same age. And I remember that show very well. As someone else has already said, Bart has opened the bible to me in ways no one ever has. As a Catholic up until the age of 19 all I ever heard was tiny snippets of the book quoted during the Mass. I was a student in a parochial school until the 8th grade and we never, ever discussed the bible in any way. The catechism is the only religious teaching I encountered outside of the Mass.
Same age, same experience. Still have parts of the Baltimore Catechism burnt onto the brainpan. I’m learning so much about the bible and antiquity in these podcasts with Megan and Bart, and in Bart’s other work. And I don’t get slapped!
Too bad. I am 65-years-old, and that was NOT my experience in Catholic school. I got my first Bible in 9th grade, where we had a full year of Bible study. Also snippets of quotes is NOT what happens at Mass. Every day, there are two complete readings from the Bible at Mass--one from the Old Testament, and one from the New Testament. On Sundays, there are three readings from the Bible--one from the Old Testament and TWO from the New Testament (one from the Epistles and one from the Gospel).This is very methodically done. Wherever you are in the world the readings are the same. As such, if a Catholic attends Mass every day for three years straight, said Catholic will have heard almost the entire Bible. As for the catechism, I am re-reading it now. Don't most religions have tenets such as these? Anyway, having said all of this for sake of accuracy and fairness, I am enjoying these analyses by Bart Ehrman.
@@SanzL1 It's not acuracy and fairness to contradict someone else's experience at a Catholic school or mass because their experience differs from your own, all that tells is your indifference to other people.
It is through Matthew that paul is exposed as the ultimate weapon of Rome. Emperor Constantine changed the Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday in 325AD, stole Hebrews Truth and History with God and called that the Old Testament while ripping off the document the apostles were using then in the earliest churches called the Gospel of the Holy 12. Relaxed all the Laws and sold themselves to riches with the book in every Sunday Church.
Matthew 5: 17 - 20 17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19 Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven.
If I say anything in oppose to Christ, am I not a liar?
Romans 10:4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to those who believe.
www.britannica.com/event/First-Council-of-Nicaea-325
@@kuhnemund6523 - or your knuckles rapped with a ruler by an old virgin in a black dress
I've got to tell you..I just love this podcast. I've listened to this one, in particular, at least 10 times maybe more. There's so much to unpack and I just love it. Thank you so much!
Liars, they lie. 8.04 he touches his nose as does Pinnochio..Only the Gospel of Matthew is true. Everyone on media is a liar. Read the Gospel of Matthew AND ONLY the Gospel of Matthew. Jesus Saves.
@@magsmcginty3929 Jesus? Jesus who? The bible is theological not historical. The books and letters in the bible were written with an agenda to get people to follow their "lord" and pay them for the service. There is very little fact therein.
I remember getting Jesus and Moses confused in Sunday school in first or second grade, but no one ever talks about this. I’m really glad they explored this here.
Liars, they lie. 8.04 he touches his nose as does Pinnochio..Only the Gospel of Matthew is true. Everyone on media is a liar. Read the Gospel of Matthew AND ONLY the Gospel of Matthew. Jesus Saves.
>>Only the Gospel of Matthew is true
@@magsmcginty3929 what the fuck are you talking about
@@rayhanakram9912 🤣Ray, I was having a rant re all of the deception in the so called Christian Churches/movement..Everything is deception - and I had just become aware of it, so I was a bit unhinged. 😂 Pray to your Heavenly Father to show you the truth, and you'll experience the same thing.. God Bless You 🙏
@@rayhanakram9912He posts the same stupid crap on every thread. I just report them now when I see them.
You guys are so unbelievably good. You can both go to heaven.
So you get to decide who goes?
@@bootstrapperwilson7687 I can't swim, but I don't need to
@@bootstrapperwilson7687yes
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@@bootstrapperwilson7687 Romans 8:16 The Spirit itself bears witness with our spirit that we are God’s children” So you will definitely know that you are part of the Heavenly Group because the Spirit is the most powerful force that there is. And if you go to Heaven you will be ruling as Kings over the earth. ( Revelation 5:10) and ( 1Corinthians 6:2) which states- Or do you not know that the Holy Ones will judge the World? So then now you should know what you do if you are chosen to go to heaven because the Bible clearly tells what happens. But the next question you should have is who are they going to be judging over the Earth? Then look up Psalm’s 37:9,11, & 29
I have loved "Superstar" since it's debut in 1972. The "bromance" depicted between Judas and Jesus breaks my heart and led me to question Judas' role (biblically) which led me to your book "The Lost Gospel of Judas Iscariot". Favorite lyrics of Judas - "Did you mean to die like that? Was that mistake or did you know your messy death would be a record-breaker?"
Liars, they lie. 8.04 he touches his nose as does Pinnochio..Only the Gospel of Matthew is true. Everyone on media is a liar. Read the Gospel of Matthew AND ONLY the Gospel of Matthew. Jesus Saves.
@@magsmcginty3929 There always has to at least one fanatic to respond. Guess it was your turn.
@@jimralston4789 🤣 well I AM definitely fanatical about the Gospel of Matthew - it is the only TRUE gospel. It's chiastic and there's a reason why they don't want you to know that... God Bless You.
@magsmcginty3929 You too man.
In Matthew 10:5, Jesus tells his disciples not to go where there are non-Jews. In Matthew 28:19, Jesus tells his disciples to go to all the nations. Did Jesus change his mind, or did Matthew make a mistake?
Love Megan & Bart so much
I love this podcast! What a treasure! I have read Misquoting Jesus, How Jesus become God, and Lost Christianity. These books are fountain of knowledge.
Liars, they lie. 8.04 he touches his nose as does Pinnochio..Only the Gospel of Matthew is true. Everyone on media is a liar. Read the Gospel of Matthew AND ONLY the Gospel of Matthew. Jesus Saves.
@@magsmcginty3929 I will read Gospel of Matthew.
But I see no reason why media is lying or Bart is lying.
@@magsmcginty3929 so is this different from the book Matthew in the Bible?
I am extremely thankful for this video. It answers numerous questions and misunderstandings I had about Matthew. The questions were trally outstanding and allowed Dr. Ehrman to explain Matthew so that even I could understand. Exceptionally well done.
Great answer. I think the most important thing that he always puts emphasis on is that the gospel Matthew was trying to meet Jesus as Jewish as possible because of his theological agenda. Once again the other Gospels don’t have that message necessarily
It is through Matthew that paul is exposed as the ultimate weapon of Rome. Emperor Constantine changed the Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday in 325AD, stole Hebrews Truth and History with God and called that the Old Testament while ripping off the document the apostles were using then in the earliest churches called the Gospel of the Holy 12. Relaxed all the Laws and sold themselves to riches with the book in every Sunday Church.
Matthew 5: 17 - 20 17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19 Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven.
If I say anything in oppose to Christ, am I not a liar?
Romans 10:4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to those who believe.
www.britannica.com/event/First-Council-of-Nicaea-325
Liars, they lie. 8.04 he touches his nose as does Pinnochio..Only the Gospel of Matthew is true. Everyone on media is a liar. Read the Gospel of Matthew AND ONLY the Gospel of Matthew. Jesus Saves.
I love the editor not taking out any of the comments to the editor :D
I remember regular TV. I still can't believe I spent so long putting up with such an overwhelming barrage of commercials.
The more that I watch Megan she's a very beautiful woman but she is very serious about what she does she is a studying right along with you and absorbing everything that you have to say and I I think she is great I think she's keeper around the world
Thank you Bart!
You have unlocked biblical scholarship to me in a way that I never dreamed possible.
Breaking the Bible down to its separate authorship and seeing the differing character of those authors has made sense out of what never made sense to me.
Liars, they lie. 8.04 he touches his nose as does Pinnochio..Only the Gospel of Matthew is true. Everyone on media is a liar. Read the Gospel of Matthew AND ONLY the Gospel of Matthew. Jesus Saves.
Movie that awakened my heart to Christianity 2:33
3*14 = 42. Auspicious!
Ah! You’ve solved the mystery! (And no one here noticed.)
As a Catholic, I really do appreciate these Podcasts.
Liars, they lie. 8.04 he touches his nose as does Pinnochio..Only the Gospel of Matthew is true. Everyone on media is a liar. Read the Gospel of Matthew AND ONLY the Gospel of Matthew. Jesus Saves.
@@magsmcginty3929It’s not a lie to say the gospel of Mathew is anonymous, he’s a biblical historian
@@Esteban17777 no such thing, really, how can anyone prove anything about, anything that was written two thousand years ago - we can only rely on what the people in control (tptb) tell us, and they have shown themselves to be liars, time and time again. Everything is a lie. EXCEPT the Gospel of Matthew. Jesus told us, in this gospel, that his words would never pass away. The other gospels are the leaven of the pharisees, that Jesus warned us about. If you don't believe me, ask your Heavenly Father, there's nothing he won't answer, when you ask.. Gospel of Matthew is CHIASTIC, they try to hide that from us. Just read it alone, and try to forget everything else that they have drummed into us. At the end of it, Jesus says that he will never leave us.. that's very different fro the other gospels.. God Bless You.
He touches his nose? Oh, that settles it, then we can't believe anything he has to say. @@magsmcginty3929
Some people are so ignorant any comment would be a waste.
Thank you for this great content.
Love this podcast!
I am amazed learning this from Professor and from Megan
The audio is much better balanced in this episode. Thank you!!
Liars, they lie. 8.04 he touches his nose as does Pinnochio..Only the Gospel of Matthew is true. Everyone on media is a liar. Read the Gospel of Matthew AND ONLY the Gospel of Matthew. Jesus Saves.
This is my favorite Bart Ehrman video I have seen (and I have seen a lot)!
I love these episodes.
Will checkout those Lectures!
Megas always got the coolest glasses!
An interesting fact suggests that the writer of Mathew was indeed a tax collector from Capurnaum. Luke describes the removal of tiles from the roof in order to lower the sick man to Jesus. Mathew says that they dug through the roof which was obviously not tiled. Archeologist have confirmed that no tiles were used in Capurnaum. The houses were stone walls roofed by rough timber and covered with straw and mud. John lamont. Tasmania
I love these 2 so much!!! What a perfect combo!
Liars, they lie. 8.04 he touches his nose as does Pinnochio..Only the Gospel of Matthew is true. Everyone on media is a liar. Read the Gospel of Matthew AND ONLY the Gospel of Matthew. Jesus Saves.
@@magsmcginty3929 No thank you. I'd like to continue reading all of it bc it's enjoyable to me. I appreciate your theology but I'd rather stick to my on. Thanks.
ask Our Father in heaven, to reveal the truth to you@@clinchleatherwood1012 God Bless You.
Matt 7;7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:
Bart is always a delight
Another wonderful podcast, thank you!
I know right. They should just do podcast episodes on all of his blogs that he’s done for the last 10 years
Liars, they lie. 8.04 he touches his nose as does Pinnochio..Only the Gospel of Matthew is true. Everyone on media is a liar. Read the Gospel of Matthew AND ONLY the Gospel of Matthew. Jesus Saves.
This is brilliant. I've learned more from Bart in the past 2 days than I've learned in church my entire life😅
And that's 45 years for me 😢
@@thomaswonderwood9826 lol nice joke
Obrigado pela aula!
Liars, they lie. 8.04 he touches his nose as does Pinnochio..Only the Gospel of Matthew is true. Everyone on media is a liar. Read the Gospel of Matthew AND ONLY the Gospel of Matthew. Jesus Saves.
Forty-two generations from Abraham to Jesus? Deep Thought knew what it was talking about!
10:30 I've often wondered, If Matthew was a tax collector before coming to Jesus, he must have been used to dealing with money and keeping a balanced set of books (however they were referred to in those days).
The Romans were basically _The Mafia_ but with a larger number of armed men to keep order; they weren't exactly known for being wishy washy about getting their piece of the pie, tax collectors had better able to balance their numbers.
If they had Matthew why would Judas Iscariot have been the _Treasurer_ for the group of Apostles?
Because they did not like nor trust tax collectors😏😄
@@mervynsoo8353 Yet he was part of the inner circle?????
It's just made up stuff most likely
That’s actually a fantastic question I’ve never thought to ask.
Maybe some of these roles weren't really defined until the gospels were written many years later. Narratives evolved over time....
Thank you Megan. I always enjoy your podcast. 😊
Liars, they lie. 8.04 he touches his nose as does Pinnochio..Only the Gospel of Matthew is true. Everyone on media is a liar. Read the Gospel of Matthew AND ONLY the Gospel of Matthew. Jesus Saves.
This is a great series of Podcasts. Thanks to you both.
Liars, they lie. 8.04 he touches his nose as does Pinnochio..Only the Gospel of Matthew is true. Everyone on media is a liar. Read the Gospel of Matthew AND ONLY the Gospel of Matthew. Jesus Saves.
Thank you Dr. Ehrman!
I love this show. :-)
Very interesting. Great questions from Megan and and illuminating answers from Bart.
Liars, they lie. 8.04 he touches his nose as does Pinnochio..Only the Gospel of Matthew is true. Everyone on media is a liar. Read the Gospel of Matthew AND ONLY the Gospel of Matthew. Jesus Saves.
Thank you.
This discussion brought to mind the NT story of the Gentile woman, Canaanite (Justa?) who is rudely rejected by Jesus at first, but she replied that even dogs eat crumbs off the table. Is that in the Gospel of Matthew as well? I'd say then that in the scene JC was playing to the audience of fellow jews, AND at same time foreshadowing the anti-Jewish sentiment by Christians who feel jealousy, in that the Jewish people were chosen by God. The woman in the story modeled humility for us gentiles.
Very very fascinating. Tq Megan. Tq Bart! Love you both!
Beautiful look, Megan. You have a new fan here. Your hair color, the chic glasses and elegant top. To top it off, she's super smart with a great accent. Stop It!
Here's a question I've never heard anybody address: why does Matthew sometimes double his characters? (Two blind men instead of one, two demoniacs instead of one, etc.) I've never been able to find any commentary on it.
He's not actually doubling them. He's speaking of one man as a pair. His discerning readers know this.
There are tells in the narrative. And he does this for a reason.
It's the same as why we read Jesus saying, "two women grinding at one mill, the one shall be taken, the other left. Two shall be in the field the one shall be taken, the other left." (Chap 25)
As for why this is, a YT comment is not the space for it.
@@AnHebrewChild A theory I have not heard. I'd like to read up on why that interpretation would be true.
I kinda want Bart to do commentary for Jesus Christ Superstar. It would be fascinating and entertaining.
I love these podcasts. I learn so much about the bible that would've taken me decades of reading the same book in different translations and more books about the book.
And also, I can't help but love Megan's friggin' glasses and style overall.
Liars, they lie. 8.04 he touches his nose as does Pinnochio..Only the Gospel of Matthew is true. Everyone on media is a liar. Read the Gospel of Matthew AND ONLY the Gospel of Matthew. Jesus Saves.
Many thanks for your great content - from Germany 🙂
Deutero-Isaiah to Scribe: "Did I ever tell you about my operation?" 🙂
Thank you for another grand video . 🌍🕊
New glasses!! absolutely fabulous
Be fun to have Bart and Robin Faith Walsh on together
This stuff strengthens my faith.
Thank you
Love the teal hair !!!
Excellent question asking.
Thanks for providing these videos.
I love "Jesus Christ Superstar"!!!!
Love the hair Megan.
Lol, I just had a licona flashback...
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Love these discussions
How does Matthew's genealogy make sense if Jesus had a virgin mother?🤔
I've heard an argument that in Judaism adoption conferred full rights/obligations on the adoptee, including claim to familial ancestry. I'm not an expert in Jewish law so can't say for sure, but it makes some kind of sense.
It doesn't. 😇
Jewishness is a matriarchal property.
I enjoy listening to your programs. Bible Scripture says the law is abolished. You have the law in the Old Testament and then you have the first four books in the New Testament with Jesus talking to the Jews. But after the cross, rules change, AT LEAST that's what I'm seeing. In the first four books, Jesus was talking to the Jews & after the cross the two races have become one and there is neither Jew nor Greek, male or female.
Fascinating series of videos with so many brilliant and penetrating questions from Megan. Thank you both.
( will share next Sunday on the bird app )
Editor has a sense of humour
Greetings from Brasil!
7:49 Acts 15:37
Mathew, Lewi, Luke and John. I like that.
Episode begins in earnest at 4:12.
Embedded time stamps would be a helpful addition.
👏🙂
Very interesting
I really enjoyed this one! Dr Ehrman has given us a really great podcast topic. Also kudos to Meghan as the host!
Video starts at 4:08.
Fantastic stuff. I was a fundamentalist for 11 years, and have retained my interest in religions since... but this explanation is truly wonderful!
Liars, they lie. 8.04 he touches his nose as does Pinnochio..Only the Gospel of Matthew is true. Everyone on media is a liar. Read the Gospel of Matthew AND ONLY the Gospel of Matthew. Jesus Saves.
@@magsmcginty3929 Hi Mags. You claim that the Gospel of Matthew, and only the Gospel of Matthew is true. You'll need to prove that - or at least give really good evidence. It's like those folk who say that the King James Version and only the King James Version is the inspired word of god. Best wishes.
The source "Q" is an interesting take on both Matthew and Luke using it according to scholars, and at the same time they say, both Matthew and Luke used the gospel of Mark as a source too. I'm curious though, does any scholar think Matthew could've used Mark and Luke, and/or Luke could've used both Mark and/or Matthew?
There are several. The two source hypothesis, which is fairly traditional, was created to explain how Matthew and Luke share material if they were written independently. If you discard the assumption that they were written independently, then you arrive at a variety of other possibilities. Wikipedia has a good summary:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synoptic_Gospels#The_synoptic_problem
great
I was just about 14 years old when I first heard Jesus Christ Superstar, and it blew me away! I was on fire for God back in those days, not so much these days, though. But I still love the music, it was wonderful. 👏
The song, “I Want to Know.” was interesting I thought. I do hope you were able to see the stage production as well as the movie! Our art has declined since then maybe. Hope you got to see Man of La Mancha, too. The Hamilton play was lacking inspiration, I thought and certainly overpriced!
Walter Fristoe, perhaps reading “Biocentrism” may fire you up again. I was jumping for joy when I jumped on that spiritual platform. It seems very fresh and realistically optimistic besides being quite ecumenical, although I do love the passion of black spirituals. Dvorak said they are our real contribution to New World music. I post 1 now: ua-cam.com/video/yFutmRxmtKk/v-deo.html
I am grateful I
I loved listening to Bart and Megan, we're fortunate having such meaningful information from perspectives pulled out and synchronised with OT and Gospels.
Yes.this Matthew gospel is truly explained by the speaker in a concise truthful way. He is truly a Bible expert Knowing truth. I do pray he believes in Jesus Christ as his LORD Savior.
He did when he was still a teenager....
Would Jesus himself (having come from the countryside) have understood the nature of the Pharisees so well that he would know of their hypocrisy, or was it Matthew who understood and wrote as if Jesus had such understanding?
Dr. Ehrman - - too few historians have noted the fact that, among the Pharisees, Jesus (see Charlesworth) was mainly opposed to the harsh, "letter of the law" Shammaites, who were dominant during Jesus' lifetime. The Hillelites (e.g., Gamaliel) had a very similar philosophy (e.g., of forgiveness) to that of Jesus.
Very enjoyable, but it brought up some questions for me. Bart touched on the idea of Matthew's theme of fulfilled prophecy (as Messiah, or anointed king), and also on Mark's gospel as the "unknown Jesus." I would be interested in Bart's take on a theory I encountered a few years ago that the gospels, when put in their 'correct' order, describe a thematic progression. This theory has the gospels in the order Mark, Luke, Matthew, and John with Mark's theme being to portray Jesus as a man, Luke's portrayal of Jesus as a priest, Matthew as a king (King of the Jews) and John as deity. (I am aware that putting Luke before Matthew is controversial here.) The theory notes that Mark is the shortest and earliest work, that illuminated manuscripts often portray the author with a human bearing water (Aquarius) and represents the beginning of the year, or winter. Luke is of middle length, the author portrayed with a bull (Taurus), Luke's genealogy include's Levi (verse 29), the narrative describes Mary's relationship to Zacharias the murdered priest, and progresses from winter to spring. Matthew is the longest gospel, portrays Matthew accompanied by a lion (Leo), depicts the transfiguration on the mount (the highest point geographically), traces genealogy to King David (with all the fascinating gematria and generational counts around the number 14) , being summer . John is clearly the last gospel written, it is of middle length, depicts the author with a balance scale (Libra/Autumn), and is theologically distinct from the synoptics, and depicts Jesus as deity. This would require coordination between the authors and would explain why Luke and Acts are separate works. It would also tie in with other apparent astrological references in the gospels.
You have four samples out of hundreds, if not thousands of similar documents. They were selected to minimize the discrepancies between them. Will they show some form of "progression"? Yes. That is called "selection bias". It's the mechanism by which evolution works. ;-)
The initial point is reasonable and really reflects the development of early Jesus-movement eschatology in the first century. The rest is just picking out bits of information to fit a pre-conceived structure rather than evidence of anything real.
I like to think Bart blew his nose at the beginning in solidarity. Idk. Love these show more than almost anything.
My first time seeing Megan-WOW!! What a beautiful lady and killer smile!! I’m being completely distracted by it, so will have to put my iPhone down and listen without watching.
This show is absolutely fantastic !!!! A big thank you to both of you !!
Liars, they lie. 8.04 he touches his nose as does Pinnochio..Only the Gospel of Matthew is true. Everyone on media is a liar. Read the Gospel of Matthew AND ONLY the Gospel of Matthew. Jesus Saves.
My name is Matt but mom told me it came down to a toss up between Matthew and Bartholomew. "You were almost a Bart," she said. Not everyone can be so lucky. 😎
In next week's podcast on heresies in the early church can you speak to how they influenced the closure of the NT canon at the end of the third century? How did they influence the debate if at all? How much did the final NT direct the future course of the church? How much different would it be had other gospels been included? What would the theology look like without Revelation which I understand was hotly debated? Thanks.
Great discussion on Matthew. Love the way Megan brings out the best in Bart. She knows the questions to ask! What I find amazing is that Bart discusses the gospels with such enthusiasm without believing a word they say! I mean everything Matthew writes is to try to convince the reader/listener that Jesus is divine.... ie... God! But Bart doesn't believe a word of that! Not a word. I would love if Bart met Matthew in the flesh... or whoever wrote the gospel... and to listen in to the conversation. It would go like this... "What a load of crap you wrote Matthew... but BEAUTIFULLY written BEAUTIFUL!!!"
Bart was first of all a baptist minister.
Wonderful, as always!
What is going on in Matthew 19:12 where Jesus is quoted as saying, "...there are those who become eunics for the sake of the kingdom of heaven."?
Is there any theory about why, when "Mathew" copied the story of the tax collector Levi in GosMark he changed the name to Mathew? The name probably signified something to his early readers, but what exactly?
I am obsessing this year with the gospels. I can't wrap my head around the 5Ws and how. The more of these you can make, the happier I will be. I have Dr. Ehrman's great courses lectures, some of his books, etc. I am trying to learn the Koine Greek as well. I will have you know that I greatly enjoy all I am reading, but I am currently unsatisfied with the answers from scholarship. The past 5 years I have been reading Dr. Ehrman's works, Dr. Tabor's, Luke Timothy Johnson, Gary Habermas, and many of the references in their works. I can tell you furthermore, that I feel like today I have no solid idea on who wrote these things, their edits and redactions, or anything. I can't decide if they originate from oral pericopes, hired writers, Christian communities actually linked to the traditional authors, or anything. I can't afford all of the books. I am land locked in Utah and I don't have access to any good theological libraries. I am going crazy out here for more
Looking at that list, and judging from the comparatively little I've heard on the subject, it sounds like you're far closer to being caught up on scholarship than you might think. A lot of your questions are things I've heard explicitly stated that we don't know and _can't_ know. We have too little from that time period to say for certain, and in some cases can't even guess. I know it's not exactly satisfying, but it will always be better to admit when our knowledge is incomplete than to so desperately desire answers that we accept unsupported claims just for the sake of not being uncertain anymore. Being confidently wrong is bad in every way except your own peace of mind, and that's a very high price to pay. Do be careful not to start slipping into that trap.
But hopefully, there's still much more that we can say with certainty that you can pick up on from reliable sources. Best of luck to you in that search, and to the scholars working on it all for us.
@@riluna3695 ah yes. The synoptic problem has no absolute answers. It is a mystery wrapped in an enigma
Maybe there might be online services from your local library where you can get books as e-books. If you don't have a local library, maybe another library has extended services for your area. Or maybe you could find a small local community of people, where you can share resources and maybe even talk about the books. Or maybe you could work together with your church? Idk, just some ideas.
@@TheKorbi good idea.
If you are a skeptic, then "Caesar's Messiah" by Joseph Atwill is very eye opening ...
Grew up Jehovah's Witness. Their Bible encyclopedia says Matthew was written 41-44ce and Mark came later. I wonder if there is anyone else that thinks it's that early.
"the star stopped somehow" and then chuckle...lol , We have heard of retrograde planets, correct professor? *smiles*. All kidding aside you and Tabor are among my favorite professors. Thank you so much for your work, not joking.
Yeah i tried to find out
Bertrand Russell in his History Of Western Philosophy says that the Beatitudes or Sermon On The Mound was plagiarized from a work called Testaments Of The Twelves Patriarchs, a Palestinian document. pieces of the Testaments of The Twelve Patriarchs have been found at Qumran, so the text is old enough to support as Matthew's source.
I find it fascinating that in subtle ways the Gospels reflect the diverse beliefs of the early Christians. Gnostics, Jewish Christians, Marionites and Gentiles are all represented if you read between the lines. Though later orthodoxy labored to eradicate the traces of such ‘heresies’.
These are all labels we are putting on today to make sense of the limited historical samples we have. In reality it's much more simple than that: communication bandwidth before the invention of the printing press was three to four orders of magnitudes lower than thereafter. People simply did not know what other people far away thought. There was no way to get that knowledge transmitted. So basically every preacher was his own theologian and his own prophet.
This series is fascinating, I'm loving every show. I'd love to hear more information regarding the topic: "each Gospel is an individual, unique book, and their pespectives are different from each other." But later in the show you say that Mathew is 93% Mark, copied word for word. So how is Mathew a unique , individual book?