Why VISTARA's B787-9 ECONOMY isn't as good as people say... | Delhi to Frankfurt | BRUTALLY HONEST

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  • @unklemunky8992
    @unklemunky8992 Рік тому +70

    Couldn’t agree more. I flew domestic with them in 2018 and was really excited to try Vistara long haul LHR-DEL in August. Meh at best, wouldn’t go out of my way to fly with them again unless the price was right.

  • @ishanpai1791
    @ishanpai1791 Рік тому +63

    yes I have heard a lot of mixed reviews about Vistara, for most part Flight crew based out of Delhi isn't that friendly compared to being based out of Mumbai or Bangalore. I didn't know VT-TSQ had Hainan's interior and not actual vistara interior, no wonder why they only flew one exact route to keep consistency. I assume your experience would have been different if you flew to Paris or London instead of frankfurt.

  • @flyingeveryday23
    @flyingeveryday23 Рік тому +31

    I had to take a flight with Vistara to report it on my UA-cam channel but since there was war in Tel Aviv I couldn't do it anymore. I hope that in the future trip report will be about this! Nice video

  • @Trickyx786
    @Trickyx786 Рік тому +23

    I did travel in the same 787 VT-TSQ in august and then in September they did update the IFE system Programm like the normal 787s which vistara have

    • @Dgz-j9d
      @Dgz-j9d Місяць тому

      do thwy have the maps?
      Im going on Vistara on December

  • @TomGD
    @TomGD Рік тому +20

    Hey David, awesome video. Here is some correction for VT-TSQ.
    It is delivered originally for Hainan Airlines as B-206R, then it suppose to be transferred and sold to Bamboo Airways as VN-A828 but then COVID wiped out the airline's plan to take her in, then repainted and then transferred to Vistara as VT-TSQ. Still kept the cabin layout and seat type from Hainan Airlines Overall amazing video though :)

  • @travelandbeyonds
    @travelandbeyonds Рік тому +18

    Vistara brand will stay for a few years. While the legal merger of Air India and Vistara will completed early next year, the brand merger will be done after 2-3 years when Air India reaches the service level of Vistara. So you can have a chance to take another long haul flight in their 787 and maybe next time, in the regular ones.
    And I had to ask, you said you were three people travelling together. So were they Felix and Simon along with you ?

    • @Justin_Why
      @Justin_Why Рік тому +6

      Actually I like the branding of vistara more than the old air india.. I’m thankful to tata team for giving the new air india similar hues of vistara and emirates..

  • @snarkboojumj
    @snarkboojumj Рік тому +20

    I wonder whether it's worth fighting for my right to look out of the window on Dreamliner? I've also encountered such a situation several times, that I pay for a seat near the window and then all of the windows are being forcefully dimed with no option foe each passenger to have a control over his/her own window. Wtf?

  • @philkeeve6577
    @philkeeve6577 Рік тому +18

    It amazes me how many of these long-haul widebody aircraft do not have air vents in the ceilings...

    • @dragon32210
      @dragon32210 Рік тому +3

      I really wonder what is the cost difference with or without vents for airliners

    • @Kuricang31
      @Kuricang31 Рік тому +4

      Maybe airlines don't understand that air vents on the ceiling is important but it is for passengers like me. Now with air vents being get rid of, how do I make the passenger who is flattening down their seats Infront of my seats be uncomfortable??

  • @janakaweerasinghe2121
    @janakaweerasinghe2121 Рік тому +41

    Please do a Brutally Honest review on Qantas. They have a lot to catch up on! 😄

    • @gabrielb9010
      @gabrielb9010 Рік тому +7

      They have already flown with Qantas in the past, plus Qantas has been into controversies lately

    • @noahmyg
      @noahmyg Рік тому +1

      @@gabrielb9010 What kinda controversies?

    • @gabrielb9010
      @gabrielb9010 Рік тому +5

      ​@@noahmygwell, they sold ghost flights, that were never even supposed to depart.

    • @UV1K787
      @UV1K787 Рік тому +3

      Agreed

    • @janakaweerasinghe2121
      @janakaweerasinghe2121 Рік тому +8

      @@gabrielb9010 that’s literally the whole reason of why he needs to do one. Qantas has been falling behind since the pandemic, due to the corruption of the CEO. So, he needs to confirm what Qantas needs to improve on.

  • @noahstevenson2441
    @noahstevenson2441 Рік тому +4

    Yeah, this just isn’t the airline it advertises itself as. Maybe in the future you should try Porter Airlines, as it’s quickly gaining popularity in Canada

  • @RR-bc6wy
    @RR-bc6wy Рік тому +5

    Have you reviewed Wamos Air, the charter airline from Spain? Etihad will use Wamos for certain routes until January 2024 due to the lack of aircraft.

  • @theaeronauticalchannel446
    @theaeronauticalchannel446 Рік тому +1

    11:13 on Air India's ex-Delta B77L's VT-AEE, AEF, AEG, AEH, and AEI dont have those either.

  • @well-blazeredman6187
    @well-blazeredman6187 11 місяців тому +2

    Very comprehensive. I wonder why reading-lights aren't put in seat-backs. I'm sure they would be less disturbing to those trying to sleep.

  • @oadka
    @oadka Рік тому +3

    I have travelled on the same sector 3 times, but it was on their usual 787s. The experience more or less matched what you saw, maybe the crew was a bit more friendly for me. Most annoying part for me was the window locking and security check at Delhi, which is so busy. For the price they offered I think it was fine, but certainly not comparable to ME3 carriers.

    • @joeljustin
      @joeljustin 10 місяців тому +1

      Middle eastern carriers are some of the best for India - EU/NA routes especially in catering, hard product and crew behavior, but their default baggage rules are way more restrictive than Vistara or Air India. I got a INR 30k flight via Vistara in MAA-BOM-FRA sector which is a steal considering Vistara gave me 46 Kg baggage allowance. Etihad on the other hand is also price competitive but only gave me 27 Kg by default and I had to separately purchase additional baggage. As a student on a budget, I would happily prefer Vistara.

    • @oadka
      @oadka 6 днів тому

      @@joeljustin yep that's what I did. First time round I did MAA-DEL-FRA and paid a bit extra to get 64kg baggage.

  • @msingh9634
    @msingh9634 Рік тому +1

    Many airlines don’t offer a full bar service with the second meal. This includes British Airways in economy class. LHR-LAX and the second meal served was with tea, coffee, water or orange juice.

    • @mh1793
      @mh1793 Рік тому

      Yes they do

    • @msingh9634
      @msingh9634 10 місяців тому

      @@mh1793no they don’t. I’m a flight attendant

  • @snigdhar5864
    @snigdhar5864 Рік тому +1

    I never flew international on vistara but I did fly domestic, from bangalore to amritsar. The service was extremely good and the crew was very kind.

  • @dana.q2447
    @dana.q2447 Рік тому +5

    I think next trip you must take Emirates A380 to Bali... I just want to know how about your experience because Bali just the one and only in Indonesia can accept A380 and the one and only just Emirates non stop from Dubai...

    • @Kuricang31
      @Kuricang31 Рік тому

      There are 3 airports in Indonesia that could served the A380 actually:
      - Hang Nadim Airport, due to its status as alternative airport for Changi in case of natural and unforseen circumstances
      - Soekarno-Hatta Airport, as the main airport of Indonesia and had seen an SQ A380 doing emergency landing there
      - And lastly Ngurah Rai Airport, was planned as emergency airport by Qantas and other airlines for their A380 flights from Australia to East Asia but it never came into fruition until recently when EK decided to use A380 for it's flights to DPS due to unexpected high demand for the route

    • @dana.q2447
      @dana.q2447 Рік тому

      @@Kuricang31 Soekarno-Hatta Jakarta international airport don't have facilities and infrastructure for A380 especially in apron, maybe just Terminal 3 but it still too small for it..
      I hear that Ngurah Rai Bali international airport just have 1 Gate for A380...

    • @Kuricang31
      @Kuricang31 Рік тому

      @@dana.q2447 Yet an A380 had landed in Jakarta twice before. One for an emergency landing and the other one is when Airbus brought the plane during its Asia-Pacific tour. So yeah, Soekarno-Hatta Airport does have necessary infrastructure to accommodate an A380 lol

  • @Enthusiastic_Aviator
    @Enthusiastic_Aviator 5 місяців тому

    As u said vistara took the delivery of the aircraft becoz they wanted to expand so it is different so I suggest you to try the other flights like Mumbai Frankfurt so that u can experience vistaras other aircraft liveries. I also took the same flight to Frankfurt in 2023 and my review was good like crew food and seats amenities were good

  • @tired_axolotl1152
    @tired_axolotl1152 5 місяців тому

    This plane is flying Mumbai/Bombay to Frankfurt now. Will have to check if they've updated the entertainment system, hopefully they have.

  • @amandeepsinghbajaj97
    @amandeepsinghbajaj97 5 місяців тому

    I've flown Vistara both in business and economy. my economy experience was great. if u ask for it, they might give u the soft product of premium economy and business class. U can ask for drinks at any point of time(atleast with me)

  • @makemyday_21
    @makemyday_21 Рік тому +1

    Biman Bangladesh Airlines also acquired two B789 from China's Hainan Airlines. Whereas Biman should have acquired more from Hainan Airlines.

  • @mikefleming8675
    @mikefleming8675 Рік тому +3

    Curious what your final opinion would be if you'd been on one of their regular 787's?

  • @jstanovic
    @jstanovic 4 місяці тому

    I recently flew Vstara from Delhi to Mumbia. It was exceptional and the best short trip airline that i ever experienced

  • @tobyriches2963
    @tobyriches2963 Рік тому +5

    Please review Lufthansa flight+train or Qantas London/Rome/Paris to Perth! Great video guys!❤😊

  • @marcd6897
    @marcd6897 Рік тому +19

    I will never get why in this day and age airlines still distribute those cheap headphones to EVERY economy class passenger. Probably 99% of those end up in garbage. Why don’t they just hand them out (still at no charge) only to passengers who really want them. I would bet it would reduce significantly at least this kind of waste.

    • @dukhi_aatma372
      @dukhi_aatma372 Рік тому +3

      Over-the-ears headphones are cleaned (foam replaced) and reused. In-ear headphones are recycled. They don't go to garbage.

    • @Kuricang31
      @Kuricang31 Рік тому

      None of them were thrown away. Just like the metal cutleries and pillow sheet, they were cleaned and reused by the catering services for the next flight. Except for the cotton that were put in the ear area, those were mostly disassembled and thrown away immediately

  • @magnustan841
    @magnustan841 Рік тому +11

    I’m sorry you had a less than stellar flight. I think having Air India as its only benchmark at home, means the bar hasn’t been set very high in recent years. So of course, Indian travellers would be thrilled at the level of service Vistara provides and generate hype, but that same service will be basics expectations for the given flight duration, for others.
    Also, expectations may not be met on every single flight, even the most well-respected airlines like Singapore, ANA, Qatar, etc. get things wrong once in a while.

    • @jonathanalvinrays..7070
      @jonathanalvinrays..7070 Рік тому +5

      Once in a while.... With Air India it's most of the times.....
      So I have 0 expectations from AI, even after their fleet renewal, cabin upgradation, and service....

    • @Trickyx786
      @Trickyx786 Рік тому

      @@jonathanalvinrays..7070well your thoughts I see it in the positive way am sure they will improve

    • @frederickvondinkerberg7721
      @frederickvondinkerberg7721 Рік тому

      Ahh you can always tell where someone is from by the use of the word 'upgradtion'... it is not word used western English speaking countries as the noun to use is just 'upgrade'... I see colleagues confused when they see it in emails...

  • @AatmikMittal
    @AatmikMittal Рік тому +4

    David, I promise by 2024 end we will not have any more chaotic security check in Delhi.
    Also, Vistara is an over hyped airline. The product is nowhere comparable to standard airlines like Etihad, Gulf, Oman etc. (I am not even comparing it to Emirates, Qatar)

  • @dubeyashu88
    @dubeyashu88 5 місяців тому

    This review is very honest, and I can affirm the same about the Vistara crew's attitude. They are not friendly. As someone who travels frequently on the DEL-FRA route, I've noticed this consistently.

    • @mendi02
      @mendi02 4 місяці тому

      are they still using the old aircraft mentioned in the video or have the switched to the new one. ( I'm travelling there in a week so this info would be helpful to prepare myself ) thanks

  • @darkbluemoon2
    @darkbluemoon2 5 місяців тому

    I actually had a pretty good experience in Vistara from Kolkata to Delhi! The food service was good, the aircraft was clean, and the crew was nice for the most part.

  • @tomernst1185
    @tomernst1185 Рік тому +4

    I absolutely can´t stand, when Dreamliner crews lock the Windowshades. What´s the point?
    Maybe i want to watch a movie on my tablet during daytime or maybe i want to look at the lights of citys below during the night.
    Locking it is absolutely pointless and restrictive.

    • @one42chrisp
      @one42chrisp Рік тому +1

      I agree, and I avoid Dreamliners whenever possible, it’s a reprehensible practice.

  • @BharatJaswal-fx7sh
    @BharatJaswal-fx7sh 4 місяці тому +2

    Try the air india a350

  • @SwapravaNath
    @SwapravaNath 10 місяців тому

    12:47 that looks pita, somewhat improvised I'd say. Certainly not any Indian bread. How did it taste like?

  • @sdgdasgupta8858
    @sdgdasgupta8858 8 місяців тому

    I unfortunately had the same experience in premium eco in 2023. The premium eco in 2022 on vistara was a complete different ball game! Both were the same FRA-IGI routes., with a price difference of around 30% to eco for a not so premium product in 2023. I wrote an official complain as well, but no response from Vistara. In terms of soft products & cabin crew service, it is a negative sloping curve as well for vistara. Whereas Air India is getting a lot better with crew service and soft products currently

  • @SKYSOAOWP
    @SKYSOAOWP Рік тому +3

    Thank you for making high quality content! ❤

  • @haresh911
    @haresh911 Рік тому +1

    They also fly delhi - bali, 7.5hrs

  • @Carlosbenee
    @Carlosbenee 14 днів тому

    9:37 Wow ! you are a Office FAN !!!!

  • @lackability6000
    @lackability6000 Рік тому +2

    I flew Dehli to Paris and they crew was so friendly. I was air sick and they helped me so yknow.

    • @arpanabinaswar1811
      @arpanabinaswar1811 11 місяців тому +1

      Whaaaat?? Vistara Delhi Crew Friendly??😮😮
      Thats quite shocking for me. Honestly most of crew from delhi I met seems frustrated for no reason and Unfriendly.

  • @Blank00
    @Blank00 Рік тому

    Do Vistara’s other 787s (and Air India’s 787s for that matter) feature gaspers?

  • @alfonsocuiti
    @alfonsocuiti 9 місяців тому

    God the dimming on 787 windows is such a pet peeve of mine. I find it so annoying when they lock it!

  • @Neil_socalledYouTuber
    @Neil_socalledYouTuber Рік тому

    Yo I just noticed my house when he flew 😳 I saw the blue white building which is Ayushmann hospital at 8:18 I live in Dwarka so if someone bypasses by that area I can see the flights 😂

  • @gunvaldsandhaland7757
    @gunvaldsandhaland7757 Рік тому +1

    I Find Indian Cuisine To Spicy For Me.Great Trip Report

  • @andy99ish
    @andy99ish Рік тому +2

    Once I have started to pretend that I am a cow, I was treated very well by Vistara crew members.

  • @ge009
    @ge009 Рік тому +2

    10:10 The passenger in front of you is watching Chak De India!, a very famous Bollywood movie about the Indian women’s field hockey team who have to fight sexism, caste discrimination and rivalries between players from different states to try and make it to the World Championships

  • @rezaalan3991
    @rezaalan3991 Рік тому

    Great flight and review, 6:06 😂😂😂.

  • @mohanjaya8862
    @mohanjaya8862 Рік тому

    Hey David can pls review China eastern airlines in a special plan its called the comac c919 they do one flight only that is Shanghai to Chengdu and back try business class

  • @rishikesh6544
    @rishikesh6544 Рік тому +1

    Can u do air india mumbai to san francisco review it would be a great video

  • @amishagarwal3151
    @amishagarwal3151 Рік тому

    I think you should have reviewed the normal hard product instead of the exception.

  • @monkeybruddha4428
    @monkeybruddha4428 Рік тому +1

    I would like Simple Flying to do a video on any Nepali Airline. I would like to know what they think of Nepal Airlines' a330-200s

  • @ryanfrisby7389
    @ryanfrisby7389 Рік тому

    Excellent trip report as always David!😸

  • @Janet_Isabellas_World
    @Janet_Isabellas_World 10 місяців тому

    End of January I flew the return trip FRA-DEL, UK26. I really don't remember when reserving the seat that row 57 doesn't have a window. I was lucky because I'd booked 58. However, not a good seat because the fuselage narrows and there is certainly less shoulder width on the window seats meaning that most people will be rubbing shoulders with the middle seat passenger. Not good on the overnighter return to Delhi.
    I'm not a monetizer so this is just for info ua-cam.com/video/AT8_Fdvu7Qc/v-deo.htmlsi=39IiAyg76NpMyfqh

  • @sushi777300
    @sushi777300 Рік тому +1

    Osaka is an awesome roster gem you got

  • @ZubairAhmed-ib6ve
    @ZubairAhmed-ib6ve Рік тому +3

    The reason why Vistara is deterioating is because TATA's focus is now mainly on Air India and they have already announced that from 2024 onwards they will merge vistara with Air India with the pilots and the fleet. So TATA dosen;t seem to care abt vistara anymore since its now gonna be air india from 2024

  • @bismanairwaysreal
    @bismanairwaysreal 5 місяців тому

    Vistara was amazing when I flew to London and when I flew to Singapore, what happened man?

  • @hjr0021
    @hjr0021 Рік тому

    Recently I flew with Vistara from Frankfurt to Mumbai. Most of the things were good except the service by cabin crew. Some of them sounded were very rude with passengers, some of them were improperly trained to serve food, and everybody had serious faces as though they don't give a fuck about anything.

  • @vedantgupta6153
    @vedantgupta6153 Рік тому +2

    That piece of bread is called a kulcha

  • @SeanXSF
    @SeanXSF 2 місяці тому

    I flew Vistara on a domestic flight from Bangalore to Goa, and it was delayed.
    Twice.

  • @gooner7768
    @gooner7768 5 місяців тому

    Vistara is good for domestic as the competitors are poor, but for international, definitely take someone else. Especially when flying to Europe, as there are many good alternatives.

  • @adnaanfarooqui6621
    @adnaanfarooqui6621 Рік тому +1

    i watch all of your videos
    and i love ty for the entertainment!

  • @CyrilBennett-r2x
    @CyrilBennett-r2x Рік тому

    When I watched these videos, that shit make me wanna travel a lot of places that I never been. Man I wish that I can have some money alot of money so that I can have my family together to travel from a different country or state.

  • @ashutoshuttarwar1
    @ashutoshuttarwar1 Рік тому +1

    This sucks really bad. I'm flying with them Delhi to Frankfurt because Paris to Delhi was good. No air vent is going to kill me

  • @scottnichols3685
    @scottnichols3685 Рік тому +6

    Excellent review.
    So much better than Nonstop-whining-Dan.

  • @ahirboy720
    @ahirboy720 Рік тому +1

    Nice new video!

  • @thomasjsanford4369
    @thomasjsanford4369 Рік тому +2

    When you mentioned premium economy, you implied that the class offered better meals than economy class does.
    I've never found that to be true on other international flights, as First Class, Business, Premium, and Basic Economy all get the same meal. The only difference is whether it's served on fine China, Plastic, Paper, or Styrofoam..

  • @Endou131
    @Endou131 Рік тому +1

    If you believe In Indian advertisement you’re doomed😂

  • @AsifulHaqueNiloy
    @AsifulHaqueNiloy 4 місяці тому

    Please specify the difference between "Trip Report" & "Brutally Honest".............
    What do you mean by "Trip Report" & "Brutally Honest" ?

  • @Dgz-j9d
    @Dgz-j9d Місяць тому

    I'm going to review the vistara and air india merger 787-9 VT-TSQ

  • @jonathanalvinrays..7070
    @jonathanalvinrays..7070 Рік тому +3

    In one of the Indian languages i.e Hindi, we often mockingly say to people who are insecure and fringe, "Ye le mithai kha. Muh meetha kar apna" which roughly translates into sweetening the sour tone of some hyper jerk assholes.....
    That's what many Flight Review people do. Vistara is not the Flag/National carrier of India, which is Air India. But Vistara in several terms is better than AI, but nothing compared to SIA, Qatar Airways, Etihad Airways, Emirates, BA, Delta, etc....
    It's good to have better harsh reviews than numbness soothing approach. Hope people take it positively..

  • @thailandrose2603
    @thailandrose2603 10 місяців тому +1

    I wouldn't be impressed about anything with a 787 Nightmare Liner. Give me an a350 any day.

  • @jeetknowschess
    @jeetknowschess Рік тому +1

    nice, another India flight; even if it’s leaving India

  • @bossfight6125
    @bossfight6125 Рік тому

    Hopefully their business class is better.

  • @Akshay_Rajbongshi_
    @Akshay_Rajbongshi_ Рік тому +1

    From 2024 There No Vistara 😢😢😢

  • @HanuMa-y6p
    @HanuMa-y6p Рік тому

    Nowadays Air India is charming front of vistara airline. 😅❤

  • @AeroTravels
    @AeroTravels Рік тому

    The food don’t look good. Good report!

  • @Aidan-q8q
    @Aidan-q8q Рік тому

    Great vid

  • @Jackson34466
    @Jackson34466 Рік тому

    I am a frequent flyer, we have good experience, don’t care this review

  • @Russell-h5q
    @Russell-h5q Рік тому +1

    Point of view and evidence explained clearly of why this airline is not the best in 2023 📌.

  • @frankiechong3819
    @frankiechong3819 Рік тому +1

    A grand ambition let down by indifferent, lack luster and extremely rude inflight and ground staff. At least their rudeness is consistent.

  • @jcbaily5559
    @jcbaily5559 Рік тому

    Doesn't sound like an upbeat carrier!!!!!!!

  • @monkofdarktimes
    @monkofdarktimes Рік тому +1

    Thats unlucky for the plane but it could be better but it could be worse

  • @pamkol1
    @pamkol1 Рік тому

    Casablanca to douala

  • @BestieBearLover
    @BestieBearLover Рік тому +2

    vistara is my fav airline

  • @TrinaMillenheft-us4pb
    @TrinaMillenheft-us4pb Рік тому

    Yay another brutally honest

  • @RashadKhanAviation2023
    @RashadKhanAviation2023 Рік тому

    Wait…WHAT?!

  • @msfs24
    @msfs24 Рік тому

    NICE

  • @pigmoonk2545
    @pigmoonk2545 Рік тому

    Air India is leeching off SIA's investment. The service standard will remain to be seen. The unhygienic aircraft is inframous. What a disgrace being the flag carrier that Vistara will. be part of.

  • @darshangajjar6179
    @darshangajjar6179 Рік тому +1

    Most awaited review.....

  • @prabhjeevsinghsethi8792
    @prabhjeevsinghsethi8792 Місяць тому

    It’s kulcha

  • @fine-jumble2114
    @fine-jumble2114 Рік тому +1

    UGANDA AIRLINESS

  • @artemplatov1982
    @artemplatov1982 Рік тому

    Use the correct map of India

  • @nikhii
    @nikhii Рік тому +1

    Vistara is incredibly mid

  • @dreamliner_lover
    @dreamliner_lover Рік тому +2

    Vistara is better than Air India. Air India is the worst FSC in the world.

  • @adnaanfarooqui6621
    @adnaanfarooqui6621 Рік тому

    hi

  • @rikodrinkson8366
    @rikodrinkson8366 Рік тому +1

    I flew Vistara two weeks ago Delhi to Hong Kong in a321 economy and was disaster. Odour in plane was like public toilet haven’t been cleaned for days, catering was uneatable. Probably my worst flight I ever flew and I fly at least once per week. Avoid Vistara

  • @georgehe8305
    @georgehe8305 Рік тому

    :(

  • @Kubotahonda5
    @Kubotahonda5 10 місяців тому

    India's airlines, NO THANKS

  • @kzphotographer
    @kzphotographer Рік тому

    Rename your channel to “Simply ECONOMY Aviation”, since you’re not able to do anything else ffs

    • @simply_aviation
      @simply_aviation  Рік тому +6

      We've got some Business and First Class videos coming up soon! :)

    • @finnfuchs879
      @finnfuchs879 Рік тому +2

      99% of the people here fly economy, so it is just reasonable that he doesn't do a lot of first and business...