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Steel ships are great for being unique and niche. This ship really fulfills that role well, and I enjoy mine a lot, despite not being very good in it lol. Fun battle cruiser design concept.
This is the main reason why Shikishima is a bad steel ship and no one should get her unless they already have all the ones that interest them at all. She's just a Yamuat with novelty guns. Stalingrad is a behemoth of a cuiser with guns like no other, and great survivability and utility. Bourgogne is a fierce fast BB that literally punches way beyond her caliber. Ragnar is the best DD hunter and all purpose long range farmer DD that any resource can offer. Even Plymouth and Austin have their own unique playstyles. And of course Incomparable lives up to her name, like you explained. All steel ships are worth admiring and grinding for, except Shikisima, which is basically just a statement saying "I'm better than you because I can play a ship that's just a worse version of Yamato because I had the resources to waste on her".
I love the concept of ships like Incomparable, Repulse and Georgia. Fairly squishy with few big guns with good accuracy (at least most of the time) and great speed. Didn't manage to get Georgia before she got removed from the shop but I'm definitely going to get Incomparable, even if it means suffering through Ranked.
georgia aim is by far the most random of those 3, I had battles when I wanted to alt + f4 when the shells went everywhere but the lenin citadel at 6 km, also de secondaties cant pen anything but have a good fire chance
@@cob-codeofbrawl7668 Jean Bart for me: 1st Far Range Salvo: Hit a Georgia for 60k Next far range: Miss all shells 1st Close range salvo: Hit Vital Parts and Citadel like Petro on Steroids Next close range salvo: Shotgun dispersion, miss all everything against a target 3km away from you Its like a dice roll
@@nicz7694 yeh I know, but at least jean bart gets a reload booster and has all her fp in the front so you dont risk your citadel, thats my point, she has strong points to compensate the aim randomness, georgia has barely any stronger points
At the end of the road gun caliber larger than 460 doesnt matter since all ships are balanced by 32mm armor and if i remember only Fuso has 35mm deck so no real benefits with 35mm overmatch.
I got the Bourgogne rather than this, but having seen this match I'm going to do my level best to grind out that steel so I can go on Jackie Fisher's wild ride.
These new thumbnails are incredibly well detailed. Please give us UA-cam lads some of the old videos that you used to do. Such as the 100k commentaries. Love to hear the though process along with a great game.
The audio clip "This is fucking animal research" has never been more true than my teammates lately. Doin like yours constantly, training down the 1 or 10 line while theres maybe 1 ship there, ignoring the caps, and ending the game on time with 80% of their hp left and done 15k dmg.
It's so broken, with every gimmick in the world. Sadly bad players will play it and keep the stats down. Unicum players will destroy every cruiser it sees.
2:49 AP bounces have always been able to do damage, even from way back when the game was still young, and this is especially true if the shell that bounced was a very heavy and high caliber one
Flamu's love for this fame seems to be waning heavily. There's never any commentary or analysis here, just lazy uploads of footage from streams. A shame, he used to be the best for the analysis and explanation side of things.
How do we convince British ship players to stop spamming HE? Give them 508's, great ship wish I had it but like all Steel ships, out of my low effort reach
my build for the ship involves running super heavy AP. My stats with her are decent so far and from your build I dropped priority and expert loader to keep both the extra heal and FPE. I've gotta say 21k nukes do feel really good.
Any chance you could make a tutorial for mid range players, so that we could make that next " step?" I play " checkers," you play " chess." Obviously, there is something ( besides being old) that I am missing. Thank you. I play cruisers primarily but used to love DDs.
While getting better may be hard, there isn't much to learn. You should have learned aiming and minimap awareness already, next big step is positioning on map. Flamu did a lot of guides during all this years but they get buried under highlights and other stuff. Look for vids with "positioning" and "replay analysis" in title on his channel.
So let me get this straight.This is a ship whose haull is like an repulse has the speed of french bbs,has minotaur like torpedos,shikishima guns and Flint like consumables.Yep well done wg
When I heard hms incomparable I thought they where adding the 100000 ton super battleship designs of the 50s designed to deal with every threat in modern warfare , but the ww1 ones will do lmao
Well i witnessed a week ago, when a full HP Petro wiped out in a sec with these guns at the start of the game.. At this moment i know this toy must be in my port.. SOON
Kinda questionable to hide that 20 inch caliber behind steel exclusively. Otherwise nice ship, looks really fun. I went with Ragnar though, and i don't regret it.
@@DeteCT0R It is extremely hard to get, especially free to play. If you get Steel through the dockyard by spending, then you have to play a lot and spend a lot.
You don't gain anything from any caliber above 460MM. 508 and 510MM guns are just higher alpha really, 460MM already over matches 32MM and no higher threshold really exists worth mentioning.
I know you end up super vulnerable to fires with your already reduced HP pool but I can imagine a Furious+Super Heavy AP build being a little viable. You can be pretty immune to the HE spam and fires by just running Repair Party while brawling with stupid fast reload from Furious and when you win pop DC to preserve the rest of your health for later.
Are they ever going to lower the American BB reload times to make them competitive with the 20inch 25 second 36kts super BBs coming out for every paper ship in the game? Sitting in the back on fire with the least accurate guns and a 42 second reload kinda sucks... Love the videos Flamu! You've helped me improve my gameplay (I'm a slightly seasoned potato now, instead of a raw one, so thank you)
Salem player also wondered why 4 ships were not pushing 1 Yamato. And he used the phrase "zhevat' sopli" which straightforward translation is "chew snot". Sorry can't find more literature one )
dude, i've fought this thing in a Schlieffen and petro. just 1 cit thus far. the petro got it going through the deck armor on the nose. petro got nearly 60 hits to the broadside, zero crits. it's citadel shares the same pocket dimension as the petros. i don't understand it, i tried shooting under the waterline, at the waterline and over the waterline, none of them result in cits. the Schlieffen slaughtered it with it's secondaries, and i did kill it with the petro just with pure dps, but man, that cit is a mystery.
I have super heavy AP on my Incomparable. No fire prevention and no basic survivability. This thing survive solely rely on its concealment and super heal. The super heal is so huge, you cannot use all of them unless you take fire of flood damage. And with the concealment of this thing, you can just go dark if you want. The fire burns for 60 second on mine but who cares🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️. I either go dark and use my damage con, or just heal all the fire damage back with the super heal. Also, I use the special UK commander. So if I got 2 kills (which I get very often), I will get one extra heal and all other consumables. Just let the fires burn!🤣 Also, the CVs don’t chase me that much, because I would just run back and maneuver whatever I want.
I just want to know what was going on in that GK players head, first he tried to "reverse kite" a single yamato after seeing all the team is on the other side, after the other two teamates pushed up and killed the yamato the GK tries to fight three on one and dies very early. how tf did he got to tier 10
Your mistake was believing anything WoW ever says... Only thing you can ever expect out of them is they don't give a fuck about you nor what you want, they will do whatever they want to make money.
@@danh7411 Know what the funniest part is? This new ship outclasses the Shikishima BY FAR!! It has just about as big of guns, its fast going around 36 knotts or so, it has a super heal, AND 4 single launch torps on each side that go 10km.... That's not just a broken promise, that's wargaming shitting on a platter and making you eat it!
@@coyote4961 and, to exchange for greater firepower, you lose sustain. Kinda like going from Petro to Stalingrad, tankier but worse firepower to a lot better firepower and more squisy.
Salem is turning out, interesting. Should be more aggressive. Salem went nose in? That's not how you play. Love the vids but pick one and stick with it! :)
the fact it has heavier shells than shiki is believable since the British made a 457mm gun during WW1 that fired heavier shells than yamatos 460s albeit with a much shorter maximum range and a design like this a fully logical next step from the repulse design and looks much more believable than some of the actual proposed 9 gun 16 inch battlecruiser designs drawn up by British engineers like G3.
Totally unrelated comment for this video, except about new ships... New tier 10 Italian dds get dumped on by everyone. Played against Notser on NA and he got bottom yet survived most of the battle. He was global chatting his displeasure 😂
theyre god awful range is the issue. they have the bad conceal but hard hitting guns to play like khab or kleb but its impossible to do with an 8.5km base gun range which forces dd knife fights where it'll probably get torped
![Petropavlovsk [WiP] - Here We Go Again](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/ptiYxiTBeYE/mqdefault.jpg)
This thing is huge, turns poorly and is very squishy. On the other hand it's fast and hits like a damn truck. I like it.
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It does make me wonder why it has the same concealment as a Des Moines.
Truly incomparable KEKW
I have enough steel for my first steel ship, what would you recommendation be. Ragnar, Stalin, Incomp or Bourg? Thank you
@Flamu is @Ichasegaming ever coming back ?
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You can't compare this ship to the Repulse. This ship is... Incomparable.
Yeeeeeeaaaaah!
😎
Steel ships are great for being unique and niche. This ship really fulfills that role well, and I enjoy mine a lot, despite not being very good in it lol. Fun battle cruiser design concept.
This is the main reason why Shikishima is a bad steel ship and no one should get her unless they already have all the ones that interest them at all. She's just a Yamuat with novelty guns. Stalingrad is a behemoth of a cuiser with guns like no other, and great survivability and utility. Bourgogne is a fierce fast BB that literally punches way beyond her caliber. Ragnar is the best DD hunter and all purpose long range farmer DD that any resource can offer. Even Plymouth and Austin have their own unique playstyles. And of course Incomparable lives up to her name, like you explained. All steel ships are worth admiring and grinding for, except Shikisima, which is basically just a statement saying "I'm better than you because I can play a ship that's just a worse version of Yamato because I had the resources to waste on her".
@@wombat4191 have you compared shiki firing sound with incomparable? Any difference?
I never would've expected the WWI-era battlecruiser concept make it all the way to Tier X to face off against Cold War designs, lol.
Isn't Conqueror WW1 design?
@@bartekzacierka7129 wrong conqueror lol
The RN did have a HMS Conqueror in ww1 though
the entire german BC line stemmed from WW1 era designs as well as the new American fattys. so it shouldn't be all that big of a surprise honestly.
I mean, how the HECK are you going to balance a ship with 508mm guns at anything but T10?
I love the concept of ships like Incomparable, Repulse and Georgia. Fairly squishy with few big guns with good accuracy (at least most of the time) and great speed. Didn't manage to get Georgia before she got removed from the shop but I'm definitely going to get Incomparable, even if it means suffering through Ranked.
Georgia is good. Fast as hell. Mass secondary i use her alot.
georgia aim is by far the most random of those 3, I had battles when I wanted to alt + f4 when the shells went everywhere but the lenin citadel at 6 km, also de secondaties cant pen anything but have a good fire chance
Does repulse get torpedo beats like the real ship?
@@cob-codeofbrawl7668 Jean Bart for me:
1st Far Range Salvo: Hit a Georgia for 60k
Next far range: Miss all shells
1st Close range salvo: Hit Vital Parts and Citadel like Petro on Steroids
Next close range salvo: Shotgun dispersion, miss all everything against a target 3km away from you
Its like a dice roll
@@nicz7694 yeh I know, but at least jean bart gets a reload booster and has all her fp in the front so you dont risk your citadel, thats my point, she has strong points to compensate the aim randomness, georgia has barely any stronger points
I would love to see another replay of Incomparable, it is just so much fun to see you play this beast
"mom can we have shikishima"
"no, we have shikishima at home"
shikishima at home:
There will never be a BB with bigger guns than the Yamato.
- Wargamimg
Do you guys remember this quote?
"We will never add subs to the game."
~ Wargaming
Yeah idk how I feel about this, 20 inch guns is just ridiculous
Yes we remember this quote. You're all saying it in every videos featuring Shiki or this ship.
At the end of the road gun caliber larger than 460 doesnt matter since all ships are balanced by 32mm armor and if i remember only Fuso has 35mm deck so no real benefits with 35mm overmatch.
@@bartekzacierka7129 Correct. It's just about the Alpha dmg. 😁
I got the Bourgogne rather than this, but having seen this match I'm going to do my level best to grind out that steel so I can go on Jackie Fisher's wild ride.
Both are fun, but I think Bourg plays more of a standard BB role than this. If you like one you'll like the other, I think.
These new thumbnails are incredibly well detailed. Please give us UA-cam lads some of the old videos that you used to do. Such as the 100k commentaries. Love to hear the though process along with a great game.
Haven't watched the full video yet but there truly is a consumable fiesta down there.
This ship truly is Incomparable, I mean it's the first ship in history to do damage with a bounced shell.
Shell is so large it did damage by juat denting the enemy ship
The audio clip "This is fucking animal research" has never been more true than my teammates lately. Doin like yours constantly, training down the 1 or 10 line while theres maybe 1 ship there, ignoring the caps, and ending the game on time with 80% of their hp left and done 15k dmg.
The guy shifting the gears on this ship, earned a raise for sure...
I'm making it my first steel ship because it's hilarious
Same
I'm tempted too, but will stick to grinding for Stalingrad, since it fits my play style better and is less stressful to drive
It's so broken, with every gimmick in the world. Sadly bad players will play it and keep the stats down. Unicum players will destroy every cruiser it sees.
@@randyscraft it's literally just ok. Just happens to be funny
Minotar: gets spotted for 0.1s
everyone on the enemy team: so you have chosen death
2:49 AP bounces have always been able to do damage, even from way back when the game was still young, and this is especially true if the shell that bounced was a very heavy and high caliber one
Flamu's love for this fame seems to be waning heavily. There's never any commentary or analysis here, just lazy uploads of footage from streams. A shame, he used to be the best for the analysis and explanation side of things.
I'd love to see more vids on this one from you. Crazy ship. Looks fun and the guns sound awesome. GG!
It seems pretty darn tanks if you angle. And the 10k concealment allows you to push people unexpectedly and surprises them.
You still eat pens through the bow/stern though, its 25mm. :/
@@ryanli5803 Doesn't matter when you have a superheal. As long as you just get the few pens through the bow, you'll live extremely long.
I do love the fact that you finally made a thumbnail. The previous format was so ass
You can’t not love that gun sound
How do we convince British ship players to stop spamming HE? Give them 508's, great ship wish I had it but like all Steel ships, out of my low effort reach
Incomparable seems to be a Bourgogne and Republique killer that's make a lot of sense lol
my build for the ship involves running super heavy AP. My stats with her are decent so far and from your build I dropped priority and expert loader to keep both the extra heal and FPE. I've gotta say 21k nukes do feel really good.
Ahh yes, the zenith of Fisher’s madness.
My clan mate got this and first time taking it out got a det from cv planes.... But its a cool ship
Any chance you could make a tutorial for mid range players, so that we could make that next " step?" I play " checkers," you play " chess." Obviously, there is something ( besides being old) that I am missing.
Thank you.
I play cruisers primarily but used to love DDs.
Go check out Potato Quality's channel. I don't think Flamu really makes that kind of content anymore
While getting better may be hard, there isn't much to learn. You should have learned aiming and minimap awareness already, next big step is positioning on map. Flamu did a lot of guides during all this years but they get buried under highlights and other stuff. Look for vids with "positioning" and "replay analysis" in title on his channel.
So let me get this straight.This is a ship whose haull is like an repulse has the speed of french bbs,has minotaur like torpedos,shikishima guns and Flint like consumables.Yep well done wg
You forgot Conqueror heal
@@levlvov510 oh yeah don't forget that conqueror super heal
Steel Ships tend to be meta for a reason.
consumables are nothing like flint
When I heard hms incomparable I thought they where adding the 100000 ton super battleship designs of the 50s designed to deal with every threat in modern warfare , but the ww1 ones will do lmao
Well i witnessed a week ago, when a full HP Petro wiped out in a sec with these guns at the start of the game.. At this moment i know this toy must be in my port.. SOON
Kinda questionable to hide that 20 inch caliber behind steel exclusively. Otherwise nice ship, looks really fun. I went with Ragnar though, and i don't regret it.
Not really questionable, it's a basic thing. Steel is hard to get, so you want the ships for it to be extremely interesting to justify the grind.
@@dzello You can buy steel every dockyard mission. So not really hard to get.
@@DeteCT0R It is extremely hard to get, especially free to play. If you get Steel through the dockyard by spending, then you have to play a lot and spend a lot.
I honestly think shiki should have been coal, it's just a sidegrade to yamato, and most of the time i would take Yammy
You don't gain anything from any caliber above 460MM.
508 and 510MM guns are just higher alpha really, 460MM already over matches 32MM and no higher threshold really exists worth mentioning.
I know you end up super vulnerable to fires with your already reduced HP pool but I can imagine a Furious+Super Heavy AP build being a little viable. You can be pretty immune to the HE spam and fires by just running Repair Party while brawling with stupid fast reload from Furious and when you win pop DC to preserve the rest of your health for later.
WG: Flamu did *what* in this boat? Bring me my nerf hammer!!
Are they ever going to lower the American BB reload times to make them competitive with the 20inch 25 second 36kts super BBs coming out for every paper ship in the game? Sitting in the back on fire with the least accurate guns and a 42 second reload kinda sucks... Love the videos Flamu! You've helped me improve my gameplay (I'm a slightly seasoned potato now, instead of a raw one, so thank you)
A Clanmate of mine got 3 krakens in 5 ranked games in this beauty. If you manage your position and keep aware of the map, holy ...
Exactly good players will smash this. Bad players will die quickly
What insane person shoots with middle mouse button? :O
I really wanna see the brisk-heavy ap-reload mod hyper flanker build now. might actually work in ranked without a cv.
Even petro got powercrept now?
Really digging those new thumbnails
Flamu putting the team on his back as usual
7:30 no flamu... it is not furious, it is incomparable
You mean 'Incommunistable'. 😧
This ship: spreading thick bullshit on BS ships
Flamu: I like this!
if its a super rupulse , why didn't they give it the Queen anne's mansion bridge/super structure and 4.5" dp mounts?
21k alpha.... Damn its like getting hit, screen goes black and you wake up in Skyrim.
Only like three more years and I'll have enough steel for it. Can't wait.
This ship is basically shooting Halland torps :)
Thought the thumbnail was a movie poster honestly. It kind of looked like the Greyhound movie poster in the way it was made.
I hope they make a line out of them sooo mutch ships that accually existed etc
Nah, that nose overmatch happens all the time with petro
Yuro: sees broadside
*Neuron Activated*
Need a steel and coal ships tier ranking video
Like the C. Columbo wasn't a joke already, lol
The thumbnail is superb. So worth the extra effort.
"We will not add other ships with 460 mm guns."
Salem player also wondered why 4 ships were not pushing 1 Yamato. And he used the phrase "zhevat' sopli" which straightforward translation is "chew snot". Sorry can't find more literature one )
A little prediction from me... the next ship wargaming adds is a russian incomoarable with 4x3 turrets and radar.
Somehow, somewhere, Jackie Fisher is dancing.
dude, i've fought this thing in a Schlieffen and petro. just 1 cit thus far. the petro got it going through the deck armor on the nose. petro got nearly 60 hits to the broadside, zero crits. it's citadel shares the same pocket dimension as the petros. i don't understand it, i tried shooting under the waterline, at the waterline and over the waterline, none of them result in cits. the Schlieffen slaughtered it with it's secondaries, and i did kill it with the petro just with pure dps, but man, that cit is a mystery.
too short fuse on petro? that cit definitely looks like a bb shell will go through
I citadel it with Moskva tho, Petro should have no problem
I have super heavy AP on my Incomparable. No fire prevention and no basic survivability. This thing survive solely rely on its concealment and super heal. The super heal is so huge, you cannot use all of them unless you take fire of flood damage. And with the concealment of this thing, you can just go dark if you want. The fire burns for 60 second on mine but who cares🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️. I either go dark and use my damage con, or just heal all the fire damage back with the super heal. Also, I use the special UK commander. So if I got 2 kills (which I get very often), I will get one extra heal and all other consumables. Just let the fires burn!🤣 Also, the CVs don’t chase me that much, because I would just run back and maneuver whatever I want.
Come on Researcher guy, it has 10km torps, you are supposed to brawl!
the thumbnail experiment seems quite working
Shikishima? Incomparable? Satsuma!
I just want to know what was going on in that GK players head, first he tried to "reverse kite" a single yamato after seeing all the team is on the other side, after the other two teamates pushed up and killed the yamato the GK tries to fight three on one and dies very early. how tf did he got to tier 10
Are you gonna make a full review on new ships?
Definition off a glass canon
That's a long boy right there.
Didn't WoWS say that they would never add anything more than 457mm?
Your mistake was believing anything WoW ever says... Only thing you can ever expect out of them is they don't give a fuck about you nor what you want, they will do whatever they want to make money.
We crossed that line years ago...
You would think some promises by words would stop a company from making new contents to get money.
No
@@danh7411 Know what the funniest part is? This new ship outclasses the Shikishima BY FAR!! It has just about as big of guns, its fast going around 36 knotts or so, it has a super heal, AND 4 single launch torps on each side that go 10km.... That's not just a broken promise, that's wargaming shitting on a platter and making you eat it!
@@coyote4961 and, to exchange for greater firepower, you lose sustain.
Kinda like going from Petro to Stalingrad, tankier but worse firepower to a lot better firepower and more squisy.
More big guns, more! Next time, 610 mm, and then 750mm!
USN 20” BB when?
Never because wargaming hates the usn line always giving them bad ships like the newer bb line that is god awful
Meanwhile Shikishima is crying in the Back.
i think
this is the only ship that has good Penetration consistency in t10 with only 6 guns lol
What ship would you say this ship is most like?
I guess you could say this ship is...
Incomparable
Incomprehensible ( concealment) more like
cool I like the new thumbnails.
This ship is OP
I think i will get this before Bourgogne. Seem like a lot of fun
Can we have more gameplay?
Should I go with this or the Bourgogne as my first steel ship?
these ships both do similar things but id recommend borgar for a newbie. more shells and more forgiving armor if you eat shit while broadside.
Is this HMS Repulse after she survived that fateful encounter as Force Z?
Repulse hit the gym
Anyone else having problem with shells disappearing when they shot at the target with the new patch?
What would you compare the incomparable to?
as the title suggests a repulse with torps and better conceal scaled up to T10 is pretty accurate
Oh god it has Shikishima gun sound..
Linking the new thumbnails
508mm... almost as big as some torpedoes..... This game is just LOL.
I love my Incomparable!!
Exactly my rank experience, a team doing god knows what minus the win.
And also WG isn't willing to increase the Colombo's alpha or sigma. Sad.
How did that first shot dealt damage?
508mm? Thats a little big
Salem is turning out, interesting. Should be more aggressive. Salem went nose in? That's not how you play. Love the vids but pick one and stick with it! :)
Im torn between this and stal >
It is essentially a British shikishima
Playing on Flamu's team must be so obnoxious. The ping spamming alone is unforgivable
Does anyone know when then next steel coupon should drop?
I think it’s June or July. If you click on the coupon and put your mouse over it, it’ll say the precise date.
Super heavy AP. Just do it!😅
guns seem to fit the name
It's actually around 54.5% accuracy...
Please someone explain to me how is this made of historical blueprints, and not buffed because its british or american ship
the fact it has heavier shells than shiki is believable since the British made a 457mm gun during WW1 that fired heavier shells than yamatos 460s albeit with a much shorter maximum range and a design like this a fully logical next step from the repulse design and looks much more believable than some of the actual proposed 9 gun 16 inch battlecruiser designs drawn up by British engineers like G3.
use scoute plane modfication plus reload mod to achieve maximum power
Totally unrelated comment for this video, except about new ships... New tier 10 Italian dds get dumped on by everyone. Played against Notser on NA and he got bottom yet survived most of the battle. He was global chatting his displeasure 😂
Lol had a game with one on each side, they both ran up and melted 2 DDs each.
Those things are scary if you play them right.
theyre god awful range is the issue. they have the bad conceal but hard hitting guns to play like khab or kleb but its impossible to do with an 8.5km base gun range which forces dd knife fights where it'll probably get torped