Hey this not a fair comparison at all. Yes you can compare the L12 and the Tascam because they both can do multitrack recording onboard with an SD card one track=t at a time if need be.. But the Mackie can not do that at all!! It can only record a stereo SD card file no matter how many tracks you record. It is only a true multitrack recorder if hooked up to a DAW
Big Big win for TASCAM having additional global eq controls at the master output stage. That is a must for live sound. That’s more important than the looks.
I have the Model 24, rocking it old school. It works great for live club situations. Recording band rehearsals. And then coming back to my studio and dragging all the tracks into my DAW. For final mixing and mastering. I know there are many better boards out there. But in my honest opinion it is very versatile with a lot of features in the bang for the buck category. Thanks for your very honest and informative video.
I have the 12 and LOVE THAT MIXER more than any other mixer and only my Bose 8 channel can stand next to it only the Bose can’t record but it’s that the output is super clean. Like very clean and the effects are awesome too
I own the Tascam Model 24 and the SSl Big Six. I had bought the Model 24 just as the Big Six was released. The Tascam Model 24, is Pro Quality. It is SO WARM sounding. You get the analog vibe right out of the gate and even my wife could hear it. It might actually be to warm for younger guys or folks who prefer bright digital sounds. The model 24 also does some things that my SSL won't do. It has Reverb and fx built in that I can use live, without recording it. I can give the singer some reverb, but record him dry. The analog EQ does not record through though. The SSL Big Six does. I do prefer the SSL Big Six. But if you can't afford the Big Six, go for the Tascam. Or if you prefer a very warm, darker sound, go with the Tascam. The Big Six is bright and clean, but also warm. But it is bright and warm. Plus the Big Six has more tracking options and more mixing options (Bus Compression is KILLER).
Thanks for the review, I have been viewing all these machines and this is my own conclusion, the L12 is only good if you on a tight budget, the Onyx 12 looks good and has tons of connectivity + mains powered (no wall wart), however the Tascam Model 12 is the best for multitracking and also has MIDI in and out, therefore that is the one that most suits my needs and the one I'll be going for.
dude, before you even asked, I subscribed, you got me immediately excited, hey man what's up, not much, got you yo. I love you. and as your newest subscriber, I again, will go with TASCAM, thank you. you are a gem, a scholar and gentleman and from an honest and earnest opinion and standpoint. as I know by experience, in college, that I can educate my self here on UA-cam, passed the geology class I took at tacoma community college with this site yo, so teach me to capture my songs better....kidding I'm about to go down that rabbit hole on your channel. thank you again and peace and love good sir.
Best review I've seen on these! Gotta agree the Mackie is the way to go, but for a different reason. #1 reason for me is the "built like a tank" part. If I was ONLY using it in a studio, I'd probably go with the Tascam. We were playing an outdoor gig last month where it was 95 and we managed to fry a Soundcraft mixer. Bass player fortunately had a "backup" 5-year-old Mackie and it pulled us through. They do a good job of being "roadworthy", these things ain't cheap and stuff gets beat up at gigs.
I've had the Model 12 for over a year now and it fits well with what I wanna do. I like the Zoom for the headphone outs but recently I record solo and use the sub to feed a tube headphone amp. I want to have a one touch recorder so I can play without thinking about the mixing part. Then later I can stuff the mem card into a computer and mix there. For under $600 it was perfect for me. If I were to record in a band environment I have an older Yamaha mixer I could get all the drum mics into a stereo mix before sending it to the Tascam. Great video, thanks for the info.
Happy with a DP24 here. Both analog and digital have pros and cons. As a hobby it doesn't matter much but otherwise one need sound quality and ergonomics as features. If I had to pick one, probably M12.
I have the Tascam DP32, Citronic CSX-18, Akai DPS-12 and the Soundcraft Signature 22MTK. I've literally just got the Citronic and the Akai this week so I will be testing them out before showing what they can do. I still have to learn the Tascam as it does need a bit of a deep dive. I love the Soundcraft though. That's the number one mixer as it records twenty track simultaneously. I have a lot of synths and outputs from my drum machine at my main studio so this suits my workflow
@@RoomAtTheTopStudiothe DP32 is great, but I’ve finally decided to sell it and my old Wharfedale Pro mixer to buy a Model 24 which does most of the functions of the DP and Wharfedale combined.
I have the Onyx 12, and I agree - I really love the build quality and the way it looks. I wish you could choose to record the EQ and effects into your DAW with the multitrack, but you can't. For a mixer in this price range, you can't get everything, I suppose...
Thanks for making this video! I currently have the L-8 which I've used for a mixture of podcast/content creator and home studio recording. Unfortunately it's developed some problems with the USB audio, so I'm on the hunt for a new mixer. Oddly enough, I'm torn between the Model 12, and the Mackie DLZ Creator. Two very different devices, but both support the multitrack and live mixing features I need, along with enough EQ/FX options to suit my workflow. I'll be honest, your video has left me with more questions than answers, as before I watched this I was leaning towards the DLZ and thought the Model 12 wouldn't be much better than the L-8. I don't think either is a "bad" choice, but it's been very difficult to make the decision on which to prioritize - the hands on control and feel of the Model 12, or the ease of use and advanced podcast features on the DLZ Creator.
If any of them multitracked to the DAW and let you control the DAW at the same time I’d be interested. I accomplish this with a 8 channel interface and a Akai Midimix. The Midimix looks cheap as hell, but is actually pretty solid. Knobs and sliders have nice resistance and connectivity is seamless. I had the Model 16 once and it was disappointing to me so I returned it and got my current setup for this kind of workflow. I will say the model 16 looked great and sounded good to me. It was sad to me that it didn’t meet my needs.
oops.. didn't mean to write so much.. I guess I needed to vent more than I thought. very catharctic though so I'm going to post it anyway..lmao! I have the zoom l12.. had it for a few years now. it's got a full feature set.. I do have some issues with how they implement the channel strip as part of the playback/monitor path only without any option to include those EQ and effect settings to the multitrack recording. it's plastic build is a bonus for my needs. to be honest, I needed a multitrack mixer and recorder for portability. it's plastic, but it's also very light. I put it in a oversized laptop bag that I have for my old Alienware gaming laptop. it fits almost perfectly.. it's an over the shoulder bag, but has ample cushioning to protect it from bumps and falls.. the build is plastic, yeah but strong. no damage, no snapped faders or encoders.. surprisingly tough. don't let the plastic fool you. its very robust. the quality of the recordings are great.. but the internal disk cache is horrendous. if you've ever tried copying a recording that you made on an SD card to a USB drive , then you know what I mean. just takes so long to transfer a couple tracks from SD to USB that I honestly can't see the logic in Zoom even suggesting that as a 'feature'... it's actually embarrassing how slow it is.. all in all, for that price, it really does everything that I needed from it.. and I like that the ridiculous amount of monitor sends for IEMs can be macgyvered to work as aux sends. Really wished they included at least 1 insert points tho. ... aux sends just don't work the same as inserts.. BUT ZOOM CAN GO TO HELL. don't get me wrong. I like the product but I have to sell mine. I need to find something that was designed by people that have half of a brain. I'm colour blind. that is not some obscure condition that no one knows about.. not at this day and age. not since the 1970s. FFS, I can't even explain why zoom would have chosen the shade of green that they use for their metering. and the thing that really gets me is that they have a "signal" led indicator... it flashes when there is signal coming through the channel. it flashes green. it took about 3 months of use of that thing for someone to point out that every once in awhile it flashes red... obviously red means clip or approaching clipping... I'm red green color blind. so is 75% of other color blind people.. the fact that I guess no engineers or employees in Japan have ever heard of color blindness that they would use the specific red and green in this mixer that basically looks identical. .. or the fact that they just put that red warning light on the exact same LED that shows the signal is a failure in basic UI design. for 3 months, I didn't even know that clip indicator existed.. even if I read about it, I wouldn't have been able to see it easily. it would always look like the signal was fine.. only when I had an assistant at this one gig, that he pointed it out to me. thankfully, I used my audio engineering education and common sense when using the mixer so I'm pretty confident that I had never ever clipped and my recordings all came out great.. but now as I use this God forsaken excuse for a mixer I am constantly staring at this one indicator trying to figure out if it's flashing red or not.. it's just a paranoia thing.. the tascam was something I was about to pull the trigger on as a replacement.. but then I have to pull the brakes because I couldn't find balance outs. BALANCED OUTPUTS. FFS.. how the hell do they not have a pair of balanced main outputs. RCA outputs, sure...Tascam is basically telling us that this product was designed for a small tiny basement, setup right next to a home hifi stereo, or powered PA speaker. Jeeez. for a company with such a rich history of pro audio and decades of experience from their legendary vintage studio consoles they used to make to their more recent live sound mixers, to not have a pair of XLR main outputs seems like a purposeful kick in the nuts and a cheap tactic to entice consumers to level up. I never like mackie. I had their DFX6 mixer in the late 90s. I'll never forgive them for that POS. although they came out with their CFX lineup a few years later, and had apparently addressed all of the deficiencies from the DFX line, I can't easily forgive them for the years of anguish and despair they caused. It was the first real "pro audio" gear I bought as a teenager... They screwed me with that junk. I still have it tho... noisy pots, scratchy faders and all!... every once in awhile it needs a nice smack, kick or punch for the inserts to engage and allow the signal flow through the main channel strip. I'm sure they've improved, but still, I won't buy Mackie.. THEY STEAL MONEY FROM TEENAGERS!!
If you're looking for yet another level of sound quality beyond the Mackie/Tascam stuff, try out the SSL Big Six. I had a Model 12 and liked it, and a ton of synths daisy chained through a bunch of Mackie mixers. When I added the Big Six, I noticed a SIGNIFICANT step up in sound quality. It also works well with the MPC and Force as an audio interface.
I was actually looking at all 3 of these mixers lol. I want to multitrack outta my MPC X and do my vocals, cause I make my own beats and put lyrics to them. I think I’ll go with the Onyx 8
Had the first gen Onyx with the FireWire card, fat sounding pre amps and EQ (but the FireWire card tapped the individual tracks pre eq, argh)… Anyways, the FireWire card died after about a year. Hopefully they’ve got it together with the interface side of things nowadays.
Just a heads up. The tascam model 12 and the livetrak are both on sale for prime days. The model 12 was ticking the boxes for me for a while but I couldn't justify the price until now... Mixers are so central to a studio but I was trying to make do with an 8 channel audio interface because mixers aren't as sexy as a lot of gear
@DreadinNY the model 12 was $200 off and the livetrak was $100 off. Pretty happy with my choice... It's really made sitting down to play with music a lot more inviting
I draw the line at gear, where the faders and knobs are merely attached by the solder, instead of properly screwed on. And this is the reason Zoom is not on my list of reliable gear.
Im picking up a Mackie SR-24-4 VLZ tomorrow and have no idea how to integrate it as im fairly new to this but I'll figure it out. Hopefully it will do what i want which is to improve the sound of my beats
I've been using the L-8 for live shows with my 3 piece acoustic for the last year, and though in many ways it is fantastic, exactly like you said, it just falls a little shy on quality and reliability, and unfortunately, that just won't do. About 80% of the time I run sound through it, it's wonderful, but 20% of the time something seems off, static, noise floor, a fader simply not responding unless I flip the mixer on and off ... and so I need to get something a little more high-end. I mostly want to have a reliable, good sounding mixer for live shows with 4 vocal mics, 3 acoustic line in, and plus a couple extra lines to run some gear or whatnot. I am leaning towards the Onyx12. I considered the Tascam, but after the Zoom I'm feeling weary of digital and am drawn to analog for the mixer. Whattya think, man, am I making the right call?
Well i own a Model 12 for 3 months now and cannot recommend it. It's very buggy as an interface that i just quit that game and setup my 204HD behringer interface back again with my PC. So now i only use the Model 12 as a standalone unit. Even then, i'm having issues. I get no input signals and the unit is dead quiet. Then i power it off and on again, a loud boom cracks in the speakers and the inputs open up with the leds. I always have to power it off and on again to unfreeze it and get it to work, but now my power switch is starting to let go, it powers on once out of 3-4 times. The model 12 has been a nightmare and a regretful purchase exlerience. It's the most frustrating multitracker i have ever owned. Can't even assign an input to a track, you have to either unplug from the channel and plug into the other channel, or scroll the menu to swap/move the track after it's recorded. It's like they worked so hard to try to make this unit so complicated to do simple things for no reasons. There is always a long workaround for basic stuff that is so easy on other units. Also has small cheap 80s Casio calculator type mediocre screen. I've seen bad reviews about it before purchasing. But i had convinced myself that it was those very few people troubleshooting on the internet and that the happy customers just never went online and carried on. So i took a chance on it and i did end up very disappointed. I'm coming from 80s&90s Tascam tape multitrackers and in the 2000s i had and still do have the Zoom MRS1608 and Zoom R24 from 2010s which are far superior and alot easier to use. I thought i was upgrading for a vintage feel and a basic operational unit when i purchased the Model 12, but it has a steeper learning curve and long workarounds for basic operations. And as an interface, it's very buggy and if you have a loop sample in your PC stash that is at a different sample rate in the middle your project, it kicks off the model 12 off into a f mismatch screen and everything stops. You have to change the sample rate of projects all the time to accomodate your sound librairies. I used to praise Tascam for equipment i once owned, but not anymore. As i mentionned, i owned Tascam tape multitrackers in the past and i currently own 3 Zoom multitrackers + PC Studio One 6 DAW. So i'm not new to this technology and workflows, just to clarify. The only positive aspect of the Model 12 is the vintage look.
Very disappointed at the moment. I can confirm that the Mackie Onyx 12 does not work with the Akai MPC Live 2 via USB. Getting the following when I try to select it. Error: Specified configuration may not be supported by the device. Code: -22 I've tried unpluging, restarting the MPC, then plugging it in and no go. I was just starting to figure this thing out. Back to the drawing board. What I really want is a mixer that I can run to the MPC and to a computer but unless the mixer has 2 USB outs that is going to be a bit heady for me to figure out if a simply USB Y cable doesn't work.
Fam I’m glad you doing / feeling better.. ??? Are you using that Mackie with your MPC .. I had a Mackie back in day with my MPC 2000 with the 8 individual outs .. Can go USB MPC to the Mackie .. And set the 32 outputs up in Preferences on the MPC .. Like the video you made with the Model .. Yes .. or No .. If yes please make another video with the MPC and the Mackie mixer .. Plz Phrozen716
Hi everyone, does Mackie Onyx12 have control functionality in the DAW? Specifically ableton. Tascam Model12 can be used as a mixer controller(faders, eq, etc.) in ableton.
@@johnquigley3232 I cant send audio signal to my pc. ¿This mixer need driver for Windows 8 & 10?. My pc not detected de mixer usb interface. I cant use it to record.
Does the solo button on the mackie not give you a pre fader level on the main out lights? That’s how they tend to roll on models without separate PFL buttons.
Og I'm watching this and I watched your audio interface vid but I wanna know what's the difference between an interface and a monitor controller because I'm thinking about ditching the audio interface!!!?
So if I have multiple 2 keyboards and a Maschine MK3 I would need to get the tascam model 12?....or can I get the Mackie I'm trying to figure this out so I won't waste my funds...lol
What’s good Rich?! Let’s keep it simple bro bro. Of you are using more than one device (MPC or Keyboard) I would recommend getting a mixer/ audio interface like the model 12 or the Mackie Onyx 12 because it will give you more flexibility. Now if you have a two input audio interface you can still use it but with the 12s if you wanted to. 🙏🏾👊🏾
@@marcuselbow Thanks for the feedback I'm leaning towards the tascam but I have some Mackie mc100 headphones they sound good so I wanna try the Mackie,also I noticed someone said the Mackie has more of an analog sound that may pull me towards it... decisions decisions 🤔!!!
Buying a mixer for the way it looks has to be the most ridiculous reasons I think I have ever heard for buying a piece of gear. Functionality is by far and away the most important reason to by any type of music gear.
actually, since we are in the arts, and inspiration is a thing, having an environment that visually inspires you is totally relevant. Of course the features are important, but the look and feel that makes you want to get to work in your studio is just as important. Vibe!!!
Hey! Thanks for the video. You swayed me to the onyx 12. I’m trying to hook it up to my mpc x se and when I click internal to switch the audio device to the onyx it says “ Error: Specified configuration may not be supported by the device Code: -22”. What am I missing here? Any help is appreciated! Thanks so much.
I have the Model 12 and I love it but man, only 2 stereo tracks and no effect return is rough... I think I will upgrade to the Korg SoundLink MW-2408 soon.
Hi, Onyx16 - fader for mixing, are they post or pre eq? I'm looking for multi-track mixer which will be hooked to Akai Force for live setup, so I can control 8 audio tracks from Akai on mixer.
The Model 12 is not analogue at all!! Unlike the Model 16 and 24 the 12 is digital throughout the signal path including the channel EQs. If you want to compare against Tascam's analogue EQ you'd have to compare against a Model 16 or 24 (or the new 2400.)
i had a cuestion, the tascam had 0 latency ?, if had 0 latency is no point to buy an interface, i used to had a berihnger xenyx 1202 usb and had like 1 year of delay
@@digitaldiezel5870 it should work... i got into an argument with Mackie techsupport when they said their interface was class compliant they said "we only support mac and PC" -- the issue comes down to mackie not allowing you to select bit-rate so the Force/MPC see it as incompatable.
seems like more of an Akai hardware lock... might be able to work around that tho with software that acts as a bridge between midi devices. Similar device and hardware compatibility issues happen with DJ and performancd hardware that purposefully try to restrict the user from using connecting to certain software like Rekordbox, serato and Ableton .. there's a whole 3rd party developer community that puts out fixes to restore MIDI communication from device to device...
There is a huge misconception about the Model 12 not being analog. The analog to digital conversion takes place beneath the inputs meaning inputs 1-10 are all analog. You can even change where you want the conversion to take place before or after the compression also before or after the EQ's. That's why the Model 12 sounds good because the preamps and inputs are analog.
But the eq and the compression is digital. I think that’s the point some people try to make. The digital conversion takes place prior to the sound processing. Not a bad thing, great product, just preference for some.
I use the multitrack mode and record to sd and import the stems off the sd card it stays analog that way and it’s easy you just put it in storage mode and the folder pops up
@@simcax6087the conversion happens through the usb point of connection. The point of connection to usb can be moved to two different points so if you don’t output through that point it doesn’t convert to digital just make sure you set the point of conversion appropriately. I set my point after EQ and compression so I get analog up to that point.
Hello Sir, please I need your advice. I am about to launch a podcast which will have 5 Hosts and 1 guest or probably 2 guests. I want a Mixer that can handle at least 8 microphones, have onboard recording capability to SD-Card, can serve as a sound card when connected to a PC and have Multitrack recording capability. Please 🙏 recommend for me a very nice mixer that can do this. THANKS IN ANTICIPATION!...
The Tascam Model 12 is NOT a digital mixer, it is an Analog mixer, into digital from there. Tascam Model 16 and 24 are full digital, mixers and all. You kept saying the 12 was digital mix, it is not.
Calm down bruh! The mixer is definitely digital. Block diagram in the manual clearly shows analog signal conversion to digital occurs right after the pre amps. The Model 16 and 24 are analog except the multitrack recorder. This is why they don’t have DAW control 🤔
@@marcuselbow you’re absolutely right people need to chill out it is digital not analog just because the computer is a computer and it’s doing something digital but it’s smaller and it’s no different than that it’s definitely digital you’re absolutely correct I’ve only‘s and I like to zoom myself only because it has a certain sound for me that I like but you’re right
One thing I will point out as distinction between the Mackie Onyx and the Tascam is that the Tascam only has +50 db of clean gain whereas the Mackie Onyx has +60 db, so if you have a gain heavy microphone like the Shure SM7B you will need a cloud lifter for the Tascam but won't necessarily need one for the Mackie which ultimately is why I'm upgrading from the Tascam Model 16 to the Mackie Onyx 24.
I have the Tascam Model 16 and I love it. There really aren't many options for a mixer/multi-track recorder/audio interface in a single unit. The Model 16 can also be rack mounted, which is a cool feature if you have cats who won't stay out of your studio.
Great vid Bro! I chose the L12 from Zoom for live band recording and recording with overdubs. The 5 headphone outputs and separate controls for each is a game changer for me. We load the sd card recorded trax into Logic for mixing and overdubs. I had an Interface but the Zoom preamps are much better and the unit is easy to use. If I had a chance to try a new Onyx I would.
I have the Model 12 and it's great for what it is. A portable mixer/recorder. But the lack of INSERTS on every channel and having channels 7/8 on the same fader was a major oversight. Now I have a Mackie ProFx16v3 and the sound it's night and day compared to the 12. More analog thicker sound. Plus it has proper inserts on 8 channels. 🔥
I have no doubt the ProFX 16 sounds great, but I think it's worth mentioning that the ProFX series doesn't have onboard storage and only offers 4 outs over USB. All Tascam Model and Mackie Onyx series mixers allow you to do true multitrack recording onto an SD card or into a DAW directly. I went with the Model 12 because I really needed to be able to multitrack in my home studio. I find myself using the stereo inputs (7/8 and 9/10) for stuff I want to record in stereo anyway, like synths, instruments with stereo fx pedal chains, turntables, and drums (I can pan and level drums pre-fader on my MPC), so the combo faders haven't been an issue for me, personally. All depends on what you need!
yeah the SSL is nice. But it's definitely not in the same level as these mixers. But your argument is sound. Get a real mixer, cuz these budget ones are all compromises in one way or the other. They all have flaws, deficiencies or just do not 'check off all the boxes'.. The SSL is priced at Peter Gabriel's idea of what 'affordable' is .. a little too overpriced in my opinion..Its the SSL name, reputation..I know I know. I studied on their AWS 948 console in school .. just can't justify the Peter Gabriel premium price point . not yet at least 😉 The Yamaha DM3 is the one I'd suggest. actually I think Tascam came out with a compact digital mixer recently too. Not sure the price on that one, but if it's comparable to the DM3, it might be a viable option. I remember Mitch Gallagher doing a walkthrough video a while back. Seemed pretty dope. But also probably pretty pricey. The Yamaha is a pretty damn good desk. And the price (with or without Dante) is very reasonable.
@@marcuselbow Hey! No bad blood here. I just made a self-proclaimed smart remark. Great vid. Love the excellent quality you manage to get on the sound and picture. You have great potential to make a huge growth. ❤️
I thought I was the only one with noise on the ZOOM Mixer. I'm using the ZOOM R16 as a recorder from a Peavey PV14 Mixer...and I do get noise when recording. Once I remove the R16 from the line and into another recording device the noise stops.
Hello Family! for some reason I'm getting a error that says driver won't initialize. I've uninstalled and reinstalled the l12 driver but nothing. Im trying to sync with my MPC and reason software.
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Hey this not a fair comparison at all. Yes you can compare the L12 and the Tascam because they both can do multitrack recording onboard with an SD card one track=t at a time if need be.. But the Mackie can not do that at all!! It can only record a stereo SD card file no matter how many tracks you record. It is only a true multitrack recorder if hooked up to a DAW
I didn’t see this anywhere else online. Thanks for doing this review!
So, the most important thing is what it looks like. You said the quiet part out loud lol 😂👍
Lol…yeah something like that 😅
Big Big win for TASCAM having additional global eq controls at the master output stage. That is a must for live sound. That’s more important than the looks.
I have the Model 24, rocking it old school. It works great for live club situations. Recording band rehearsals. And then coming back to my studio and dragging all the tracks into my DAW. For final mixing and mastering. I know there are many better boards out there. But in my honest opinion it is very versatile with a lot of features in the bang for the buck category. Thanks for your very honest and informative video.
Same here.
Can you download the recordings to your phone??? 😊
@@Robe_Hernandez yes
@@cyclejammerj7227 THANKS! SOMEONE NEEDS TO UPLOAD A VIDEO SHOWING HOW! 😁
I do solo acoustic gigs, and want to use it to record at home and live gigs. How does it work for you?
Thanks for an amazing review ! I’m hesitating between the Onyx12 and the Model12 haha seems like a hard choice even after this video ! Peace
I have the 12 and LOVE THAT MIXER more than any other mixer and only my Bose 8 channel can stand next to it only the Bose can’t record but it’s that the output is super clean. Like very clean and the effects are awesome too
I've got the Model 16 and the Model 24 and I really like them. They make it so easy to transfer files via the sd card and I think they sound great.
That's how I do it. The SD card is the easiest way for me to transfer files to the PC
Someone should bless me with one 🙏😢
My Brother I was waiting for this video thank you 🙏
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I own the Tascam Model 24 and the SSl Big Six. I had bought the Model 24 just as the Big Six was released. The Tascam Model 24, is Pro Quality. It is SO WARM sounding. You get the analog vibe right out of the gate and even my wife could hear it. It might actually be to warm for younger guys or folks who prefer bright digital sounds. The model 24 also does some things that my SSL won't do. It has Reverb and fx built in that I can use live, without recording it. I can give the singer some reverb, but record him dry. The analog EQ does not record through though. The SSL Big Six does. I do prefer the SSL Big Six. But if you can't afford the Big Six, go for the Tascam. Or if you prefer a very warm, darker sound, go with the Tascam. The Big Six is bright and clean, but also warm. But it is bright and warm. Plus the Big Six has more tracking options and more mixing options (Bus Compression is KILLER).
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Didn't know about the Onyx mixers. They look perfect for what I'm looking for. Thanks for the video!
Thanks for the review, I have been viewing all these machines and this is my own conclusion, the L12 is only good if you on a tight budget, the Onyx 12 looks good and has tons of connectivity + mains powered (no wall wart), however the Tascam Model 12 is the best for multitracking and also has MIDI in and out, therefore that is the one that most suits my needs and the one I'll be going for.
Just bought a Mackie Onyx 8 for Djing. I like the micro sd card recording option
dude, before you even asked, I subscribed, you got me immediately excited, hey man what's up, not much, got you yo. I love you.
and as your newest subscriber, I again, will go with TASCAM, thank you. you are a gem, a scholar and gentleman and from an honest and earnest opinion and standpoint. as I know by experience, in college, that I can educate my self here on UA-cam, passed the geology class I took at tacoma community college with this site yo, so teach me to capture my songs better....kidding I'm about to go down that rabbit hole on your channel. thank you again and peace and love good sir.
Don't forget about the model 12: they make useful updates!
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Grate review OG
Great stuff mate thanks for sharing your exp.
Best review I've seen on these! Gotta agree the Mackie is the way to go, but for a different reason. #1 reason for me is the "built like a tank" part. If I was ONLY using it in a studio, I'd probably go with the Tascam. We were playing an outdoor gig last month where it was 95 and we managed to fry a Soundcraft mixer. Bass player fortunately had a "backup" 5-year-old Mackie and it pulled us through. They do a good job of being "roadworthy", these things ain't cheap and stuff gets beat up at gigs.
Very useful. Thanks.
Wow thank you man for advice!! I was thinking on the onyx 24 for record live band,this video just clear everything!!👍👍👍
I've had the Model 12 for over a year now and it fits well with what I wanna do. I like the Zoom for the headphone outs but recently I record solo and use the sub to feed a tube headphone amp. I want to have a one touch recorder so I can play without thinking about the mixing part. Then later I can stuff the mem card into a computer and mix there. For under $600 it was perfect for me. If I were to record in a band environment I have an older Yamaha mixer I could get all the drum mics into a stereo mix before sending it to the Tascam. Great video, thanks for the info.
Can I use the sub out for some 5" monitors?
Happy with a DP24 here. Both analog and digital have pros and cons. As a hobby it doesn't matter much but otherwise one need sound quality and ergonomics as features. If I had to pick one, probably M12.
I have the Tascam DP32, Citronic CSX-18, Akai DPS-12 and the Soundcraft Signature 22MTK. I've literally just got the Citronic and the Akai this week so I will be testing them out before showing what they can do. I still have to learn the Tascam as it does need a bit of a deep dive. I love the Soundcraft though. That's the number one mixer as it records twenty track simultaneously. I have a lot of synths and outputs from my drum machine at my main studio so this suits my workflow
@@RoomAtTheTopStudiothe DP32 is great, but I’ve finally decided to sell it and my old Wharfedale Pro mixer to buy a Model 24 which does most of the functions of the DP and Wharfedale combined.
Nice Studio Bro!
Thanks bro!
Thank you for your thoughts on these mixers! Definitely subscribing for more of your content!!!
Ive had my Steinberg ur22 for 7 years looking to upgrade!
I appreciate this video man
I have the Onyx 12, and I agree - I really love the build quality and the way it looks. I wish you could choose to record the EQ and effects into your DAW with the multitrack, but you can't. For a mixer in this price range, you can't get everything, I suppose...
And is it possible to do that using the Tascam?
@@jonahpaz. I couldn't tell ya. I've never used one.
Thanks for making this video! I currently have the L-8 which I've used for a mixture of podcast/content creator and home studio recording. Unfortunately it's developed some problems with the USB audio, so I'm on the hunt for a new mixer. Oddly enough, I'm torn between the Model 12, and the Mackie DLZ Creator. Two very different devices, but both support the multitrack and live mixing features I need, along with enough EQ/FX options to suit my workflow. I'll be honest, your video has left me with more questions than answers, as before I watched this I was leaning towards the DLZ and thought the Model 12 wouldn't be much better than the L-8. I don't think either is a "bad" choice, but it's been very difficult to make the decision on which to prioritize - the hands on control and feel of the Model 12, or the ease of use and advanced podcast features on the DLZ Creator.
Me too. garbled sound?
If any of them multitracked to the DAW and let you control the DAW at the same time I’d be interested. I accomplish this with a 8 channel interface and a Akai Midimix. The Midimix looks cheap as hell, but is actually pretty solid. Knobs and sliders have nice resistance and connectivity is seamless. I had the Model 16 once and it was disappointing to me so I returned it and got my current setup for this kind of workflow. I will say the model 16 looked great and sounded good to me. It was sad to me that it didn’t meet my needs.
oops.. didn't mean to write so much.. I guess I needed to vent more than I thought. very catharctic though so I'm going to post it anyway..lmao!
I have the zoom l12.. had it for a few years now. it's got a full feature set.. I do have some issues with how they implement the channel strip as part of the playback/monitor path only without any option to include those EQ and effect settings to the multitrack recording.
it's plastic build is a bonus for my needs. to be honest, I needed a multitrack mixer and recorder for portability. it's plastic, but it's also very light. I put it in a oversized laptop bag that I have for my old Alienware gaming laptop. it fits almost perfectly.. it's an over the shoulder bag, but has ample cushioning to protect it from bumps and falls.. the build is plastic, yeah but strong. no damage, no snapped faders or encoders.. surprisingly tough. don't let the plastic fool you. its very robust.
the quality of the recordings are great.. but the internal disk cache is horrendous. if you've ever tried copying a recording that you made on an SD card to a USB drive , then you know what I mean. just takes so long to transfer a couple tracks from SD to USB that I honestly can't see the logic in Zoom even suggesting that as a 'feature'... it's actually embarrassing how slow it is..
all in all, for that price, it really does everything that I needed from it.. and I like that the ridiculous amount of monitor sends for IEMs can be macgyvered to work as aux sends.
Really wished they included at least 1 insert points tho. ... aux sends just don't work the same as inserts..
BUT ZOOM CAN GO TO HELL. don't get me wrong. I like the product but I have to sell mine. I need to find something that was designed by people that have half of a brain.
I'm colour blind. that is not some obscure condition that no one knows about.. not at this day and age. not since the 1970s. FFS, I can't even explain why zoom would have chosen the shade of green that they use for their metering. and the thing that really gets me is that they have a "signal" led indicator... it flashes when there is signal coming through the channel. it flashes green. it took about 3 months of use of that thing for someone to point out that every once in awhile it flashes red... obviously red means clip or approaching clipping... I'm red green color blind. so is 75% of other color blind people.. the fact that I guess no engineers or employees in Japan have ever heard of color blindness that they would use the specific red and green in this mixer that basically looks identical. .. or the fact that they just put that red warning light on the exact same LED that shows the signal is a failure in basic UI design.
for 3 months, I didn't even know that clip indicator existed.. even if I read about it, I wouldn't have been able to see it easily. it would always look like the signal was fine.. only when I had an assistant at this one gig, that he pointed it out to me.
thankfully, I used my audio engineering education and common sense when using the mixer so I'm pretty confident that I had never ever clipped and my recordings all came out great.. but now as I use this God forsaken excuse for a mixer I am constantly staring at this one indicator trying to figure out if it's flashing red or not.. it's just a paranoia thing..
the tascam was something I was about to pull the trigger on as a replacement.. but then I have to pull the brakes because I couldn't find balance outs. BALANCED OUTPUTS. FFS.. how the hell do they not have a pair of balanced main outputs.
RCA outputs, sure...Tascam is basically telling us that this product was designed for a small tiny basement, setup right next to a home hifi stereo, or powered PA speaker. Jeeez.
for a company with such a rich history of pro audio and decades of experience from their legendary vintage studio consoles they used to make to their more recent live sound mixers, to not have a pair of XLR main outputs seems like a purposeful kick in the nuts and a cheap tactic to entice consumers to level up.
I never like mackie. I had their DFX6 mixer in the late 90s. I'll never forgive them for that POS. although they came out with their CFX lineup a few years later, and had apparently addressed all of the deficiencies from the DFX line, I can't easily forgive them for the years of anguish and despair they caused. It was the first real "pro audio" gear I bought as a teenager... They screwed me with that junk. I still have it tho... noisy pots, scratchy faders and all!... every once in awhile it needs a nice smack, kick or punch for the inserts to engage and allow the signal flow through the main channel strip. I'm sure they've improved, but still, I won't buy Mackie..
THEY STEAL MONEY FROM TEENAGERS!!
If you werent colorblind you'd see how intuitive the zoom L12 is. Very color coded.
Does the Mackie Onyx have daw control?
Thanks man great video
model 12 is really sweet.
If you're looking for yet another level of sound quality beyond the Mackie/Tascam stuff, try out the SSL Big Six. I had a Model 12 and liked it, and a ton of synths daisy chained through a bunch of Mackie mixers. When I added the Big Six, I noticed a SIGNIFICANT step up in sound quality. It also works well with the MPC and Force as an audio interface.
It's also $2700!!😄
The Model 12 is nice but I wanted mixing and mastering. I went old school and grabbed a 2488neo.
I was actually looking at all 3 of these mixers lol. I want to multitrack outta my MPC X and do my vocals, cause I make my own beats and put lyrics to them. I think I’ll go with the Onyx 8
Had the first gen Onyx with the FireWire card, fat sounding pre amps and EQ (but the FireWire card tapped the individual tracks pre eq, argh)… Anyways, the FireWire card died after about a year. Hopefully they’ve got it together with the interface side of things nowadays.
Lol! What about the Onyx Multitrack recording put you off? As long as it Mutitracks pre fader, its doing what its suppose to do
🤔 okay 👊🏾
i was interested in hearing how the Korg digital mixer sounds
Crazy timing... I just sold my Model 12.
Just a heads up. The tascam model 12 and the livetrak are both on sale for prime days. The model 12 was ticking the boxes for me for a while but I couldn't justify the price until now... Mixers are so central to a studio but I was trying to make do with an 8 channel audio interface because mixers aren't as sexy as a lot of gear
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Ah man, how much of a discount did I miss?
@DreadinNY the model 12 was $200 off and the livetrak was $100 off. Pretty happy with my choice... It's really made sitting down to play with music a lot more inviting
Thanks bro
I draw the line at gear, where the faders and knobs are merely attached by the solder, instead of properly screwed on.
And this is the reason Zoom is not on my list of reliable gear.
Im picking up a Mackie SR-24-4 VLZ tomorrow and have no idea how to integrate it as im fairly new to this but I'll figure it out. Hopefully it will do what i want which is to improve the sound of my beats
should add the Soundcraft Signature 12 MTK to the mix!
and what about the Behringer Xenyx series ?
I've been using the L-8 for live shows with my 3 piece acoustic for the last year, and though in many ways it is fantastic, exactly like you said, it just falls a little shy on quality and reliability, and unfortunately, that just won't do. About 80% of the time I run sound through it, it's wonderful, but 20% of the time something seems off, static, noise floor, a fader simply not responding unless I flip the mixer on and off ... and so I need to get something a little more high-end. I mostly want to have a reliable, good sounding mixer for live shows with 4 vocal mics, 3 acoustic line in, and plus a couple extra lines to run some gear or whatnot. I am leaning towards the Onyx12. I considered the Tascam, but after the Zoom I'm feeling weary of digital and am drawn to analog for the mixer. Whattya think, man, am I making the right call?
Well i own a Model 12 for 3 months now and cannot recommend it. It's very buggy as an interface that i just quit that game and setup my 204HD behringer interface back again with my PC. So now i only use the Model 12 as a standalone unit. Even then, i'm having issues. I get no input signals and the unit is dead quiet. Then i power it off and on again, a loud boom cracks in the speakers and the inputs open up with the leds. I always have to power it off and on again to unfreeze it and get it to work, but now my power switch is starting to let go, it powers on once out of 3-4 times. The model 12 has been a nightmare and a regretful purchase exlerience. It's the most frustrating multitracker i have ever owned. Can't even assign an input to a track, you have to either unplug from the channel and plug into the other channel, or scroll the menu to swap/move the track after it's recorded. It's like they worked so hard to try to make this unit so complicated to do simple things for no reasons. There is always a long workaround for basic stuff that is so easy on other units. Also has small cheap 80s Casio calculator type mediocre screen.
I've seen bad reviews about it before purchasing. But i had convinced myself that it was those very few people troubleshooting on the internet and that the happy customers just never went online and carried on. So i took a chance on it and i did end up very disappointed.
I'm coming from 80s&90s Tascam tape multitrackers and in the 2000s i had and still do have the Zoom MRS1608 and Zoom R24 from 2010s which are far superior and alot easier to use. I thought i was upgrading for a vintage feel and a basic operational unit when i purchased the Model 12, but it has a steeper learning curve and long workarounds for basic operations. And as an interface, it's very buggy and if you have a loop sample in your PC stash that is at a different sample rate in the middle your project, it kicks off the model 12 off into a f mismatch screen and everything stops. You have to change the sample rate of projects all the time to accomodate your sound librairies.
I used to praise Tascam for equipment i once owned, but not anymore. As i mentionned, i owned Tascam tape multitrackers in the past and i currently own 3 Zoom multitrackers + PC Studio One 6 DAW.
So i'm not new to this technology and workflows, just to clarify.
The only positive aspect of the Model 12 is the vintage look.
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Is the model 16 or 24 suitable for a small church? Under 500 congratulations. We want a good budget digital mixture for our church. Kindly Advice
I love my Tascam Model 24, i didn't care for the Mackie as much. Every mixer has its plus and minuses.
Very disappointed at the moment. I can confirm that the Mackie Onyx 12 does not work with the Akai MPC Live 2 via USB. Getting the following when I try to select it.
Error: Specified configuration may not be supported by the device. Code: -22
I've tried unpluging, restarting the MPC, then plugging it in and no go. I was just starting to figure this thing out. Back to the drawing board. What I really want is a mixer that I can run to the MPC and to a computer but unless the mixer has 2 USB outs that is going to be a bit heady for me to figure out if a simply USB Y cable doesn't work.
First lets get it....
Thanks for walking through this device. I see you have the rode wireless go 2. Which mixer/interface works best with that?
Thanks bro! You can record directly to the device. No mixer/audio interface needed. 👊🏾
Just ordered it. Looking forward to recording with guests using it @@marcuselbow
Thanks for the video , I thought the mackie onyx mixer only recorded to sd card as a stereo track ? Does it record multiple tracks to the sd card ?
thank you very much for the video! Mackie interests me a lot but does it allow you to control the DAW like the Tascam Model 12 does?
And the Soundcraft?........
Fam I’m glad you doing / feeling better.. ??? Are you using that Mackie with your MPC .. I had a Mackie back in day with my MPC 2000 with the 8 individual outs .. Can go USB MPC to the Mackie .. And set the 32 outputs up in Preferences on the MPC .. Like the video you made with the Model ..
Yes .. or No ..
If yes please make another video with the MPC and the Mackie mixer .. Plz
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Thanks fam! Unfortunately, the Mackie and the MPC’s USB doesn’t work. You must use the outputs! 👊🏾
@@marcuselbow Ok .. gotcha outputs to Mackie inputs .. etc .
Which mixer is best for a begginer?? I barely know how to use a analog mixer.... Im looking at the irig and tascam 12
Grab the 12 it’s a great mixer bro! See the specs here: www.zzounds.com/item--TASMODEL12
Hi everyone, does Mackie Onyx12 have control functionality in the DAW? Specifically ableton. Tascam Model12 can be used as a mixer controller(faders, eq, etc.) in ableton.
I would like to know too. I just got the onyx 16, I haven't been able to figure out daw control for cubase 12.
@@johnquigley3232 I cant send audio signal to my pc.
¿This mixer need driver for Windows 8 & 10?.
My pc not detected de mixer usb interface. I cant use it to record.
Does the solo button on the mackie not give you a pre fader level on the main out lights? That’s how they tend to roll on models without separate PFL buttons.
Og I'm watching this and I watched your audio interface vid but I wanna know what's the difference between an interface and a monitor controller because I'm thinking about ditching the audio interface!!!?
So if I have multiple 2 keyboards and a Maschine MK3 I would need to get the tascam model 12?....or can I get the Mackie I'm trying to figure this out so I won't waste my funds...lol
What’s good Rich?! Let’s keep it simple bro bro. Of you are using more than one device (MPC or Keyboard) I would recommend getting a mixer/ audio interface like the model 12 or the Mackie Onyx 12 because it will give you more flexibility. Now if you have a two input audio interface you can still use it but with the 12s if you wanted to. 🙏🏾👊🏾
@@marcuselbow Thanks for the feedback I'm leaning towards the tascam but I have some Mackie mc100 headphones they sound good so I wanna try the Mackie,also I noticed someone said the Mackie has more of an analog sound that may pull me towards it... decisions decisions 🤔!!!
Which one sounds better? The Tascam or Mackie
I would go with the Tascam
Buying a mixer for the way it looks has to be the most ridiculous reasons I think I have ever heard for buying a piece of gear. Functionality is by far and away the most important reason to by any type of music gear.
So after watching this video all you heard was “I liked the way it looked” bro! That’s funny. Thanks for watching 🙏🏾👊🏾
actually, since we are in the arts, and inspiration is a thing, having an environment that visually inspires you is totally relevant. Of course the features are important, but the look and feel that makes you want to get to work in your studio is just as important. Vibe!!!
Hey! Thanks for the video. You swayed me to the onyx 12. I’m trying to hook it up to my mpc x se and when I click internal to switch the audio device to the onyx it says “ Error: Specified configuration may not be supported by the device Code: -22”. What am I missing here? Any help is appreciated! Thanks so much.
Did you find a solution ?
I have the Model 12 and I love it but man, only 2 stereo tracks and no effect return is rough... I think I will upgrade to the Korg SoundLink MW-2408 soon.
Fuck all of these mixers and buy a Korg SoundLink 2408. Thank me later
Can i record vocal to a laptop by using onboard effects on eq with the Onyx 12 ?
Hi, Onyx16 - fader for mixing, are they post or pre eq? I'm looking for multi-track mixer which will be hooked to Akai Force for live setup, so I can control 8 audio tracks from Akai on mixer.
Soundcraft MTK
I'm looking for a mixer that i can record vocals in a daw but be able to hear it and not have the beat blended in my vocals i have a rockmix 10fx
This just lets you know how subjective music can be.
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The Model 12 is not analogue at all!! Unlike the Model 16 and 24 the 12 is digital throughout the signal path including the channel EQs. If you want to compare against Tascam's analogue EQ you'd have to compare against a Model 16 or 24 (or the new 2400.)
Can The model 12 also be used as a live sound mixer?
Yes
@@marcuselbow how can I upload it to Spotify or something?
What’s a DAW? 🤷🏾♂️
Digital Audio Workstation, like Ableton Live, Logic, Cubase, etc.
@@morpheux2thanks! 👍🏿
i had a cuestion, the tascam had 0 latency ?, if had 0 latency is no point to buy an interface, i used to had a berihnger xenyx 1202 usb and had like 1 year of delay
i think the tascam doubles as an interface as well as a mixer
So the model 12 is a digital mixer?
Yes
the mackie won't work as an audio interface for the Force or MPC so they're out for me.
That’s a big deal! Hope the people see this post!
@@digitaldiezel5870 it should work... i got into an argument with Mackie techsupport when they said their interface was class compliant they said "we only support mac and PC" -- the issue comes down to mackie not allowing you to select bit-rate so the Force/MPC see it as incompatable.
seems like more of an Akai hardware lock... might be able to work around that tho with software that acts as a bridge between midi devices. Similar device and hardware compatibility issues happen with DJ and performancd hardware that purposefully try to restrict the user from using connecting to certain software like Rekordbox, serato and Ableton .. there's a whole 3rd party developer community that puts out fixes to restore MIDI communication from device to device...
I cant send audio signal to my pc.
¿This mixer need driver for Windows 8 & 10?.
My pc not detected de mixer usb interface. I cant use it to record.
There is a huge misconception about the Model 12 not being analog. The analog to digital conversion takes place beneath the inputs meaning inputs 1-10 are all analog. You can even change where you want the conversion to take place before or after the compression also before or after the EQ's. That's why the Model 12 sounds good because the preamps and inputs are analog.
But the eq and the compression is digital. I think that’s the point some people try to make. The digital conversion takes place prior to the sound processing. Not a bad thing, great product, just preference for some.
I use the multitrack mode and record to sd and import the stems off the sd card it stays analog that way and it’s easy you just put it in storage mode and the folder pops up
@@drenolynbeatsstays analogue on the sdcard? How?
@@simcax6087 😂😂😂😂
@@simcax6087the conversion happens through the usb point of connection. The point of connection to usb can be moved to two different points so if you don’t output through that point it doesn’t convert to digital just make sure you set the point of conversion appropriately. I set my point after EQ and compression so I get analog up to that point.
Why is the model 12 bad for sound design?
I’m not a sound designer so I’m not sure 🤔
Hi and thanks for the video! Can I ask why did you say that the Tascam Model 12 isn't good for sound design ? Is it a material issue ?
I feel having a more pure single flow would be better. But depending on your design level this may not be a problem. 🤔
Model 12 is confusing… Onyx wins
Can I please have ur modules because u don't use it
Thanks for the video!
Hello Sir, please I need your advice. I am about to launch a podcast which will have 5 Hosts and 1 guest or probably 2 guests. I want a Mixer that can handle at least 8 microphones, have onboard recording capability to SD-Card, can serve as a sound card when connected to a PC and have Multitrack recording capability.
Please 🙏 recommend for me a very nice mixer that can do this.
THANKS IN ANTICIPATION!...
This mixer will get it done: www.zzounds.com/item--TASMODEL12
@@marcuselbow Thanks a whole lot Sir and God bless!
Its not even actual wood bruh its metal 😂
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The Tascam Model 12 is NOT a digital mixer, it is an Analog mixer, into digital from there. Tascam Model 16 and 24 are full digital, mixers and all. You kept saying the 12 was digital mix, it is not.
Calm down bruh!
The mixer is definitely digital. Block diagram in the manual clearly shows analog signal conversion to digital occurs right after the pre amps.
The Model 16 and 24 are analog except the multitrack recorder. This is why they don’t have DAW control 🤔
@@marcuselbow you’re absolutely right people need to chill out it is digital not analog just because the computer is a computer and it’s doing something digital but it’s smaller and it’s no different than that it’s definitely digital you’re absolutely correct I’ve only‘s and I like to zoom myself only because it has a certain sound for me that I like but you’re right
One thing I will point out as distinction between the Mackie Onyx and the Tascam is that the Tascam only has +50 db of clean gain whereas the Mackie Onyx has +60 db, so if you have a gain heavy microphone like the Shure SM7B you will need a cloud lifter for the Tascam but won't necessarily need one for the Mackie which ultimately is why I'm upgrading from the Tascam Model 16 to the Mackie Onyx 24.
Question 🙋🏾♂️ I need it for mastering my beats what do you think Vintage or Model 12?
I have the Tascam Model 16 and I love it. There really aren't many options for a mixer/multi-track recorder/audio interface in a single unit. The Model 16 can also be rack mounted, which is a cool feature if you have cats who won't stay out of your studio.
Great vid Bro! I chose the L12 from Zoom for live band recording and recording with overdubs. The 5 headphone outputs and separate controls for each is a game changer for me. We load the sd card recorded trax into Logic for mixing and overdubs. I had an Interface but the Zoom preamps are much better and the unit is easy to use. If I had a chance to try a new Onyx I would.
I have the Model 12 and it's great for what it is. A portable mixer/recorder. But the lack of INSERTS on every channel and having channels 7/8 on the same fader was a major oversight. Now I have a Mackie ProFx16v3 and the sound it's night and day compared to the 12. More analog thicker sound. Plus it has proper inserts on 8 channels. 🔥
Is that analog mixer?
I have no doubt the ProFX 16 sounds great, but I think it's worth mentioning that the ProFX series doesn't have onboard storage and only offers 4 outs over USB. All Tascam Model and Mackie Onyx series mixers allow you to do true multitrack recording onto an SD card or into a DAW directly. I went with the Model 12 because I really needed to be able to multitrack in my home studio. I find myself using the stereo inputs (7/8 and 9/10) for stuff I want to record in stereo anyway, like synths, instruments with stereo fx pedal chains, turntables, and drums (I can pan and level drums pre-fader on my MPC), so the combo faders haven't been an issue for me, personally. All depends on what you need!
Other than the zoom for field recording, if you’re really considering a mixer, get a real one and get the SSL BiG SiX
Yeah the Big Six is a monster but at 3k most cats can’t afford it but yeah that’s the one to get if you are looking to maximize your sound. 👊🏾
yeah the SSL is nice. But it's definitely not in the same level as these mixers. But your argument is sound. Get a real mixer, cuz these budget ones are all compromises in one way or the other. They all have flaws, deficiencies or just do not 'check off all the boxes'..
The SSL is priced at Peter Gabriel's idea of what 'affordable' is .. a little too overpriced in my opinion..Its the SSL name, reputation..I know I know. I studied on their AWS 948 console in school .. just can't justify the Peter Gabriel premium price point . not yet at least 😉
The Yamaha DM3 is the one I'd suggest. actually I think Tascam came out with a compact digital mixer recently too. Not sure the price on that one, but if it's comparable to the DM3, it might be a viable option. I remember Mitch Gallagher doing a walkthrough video a while back. Seemed pretty dope. But also probably pretty pricey.
The Yamaha is a pretty damn good desk. And the price (with or without Dante) is very reasonable.
Lots of concentration on the look here... 🤷😁
What’s can I say bro I’m shallow 😏
@@marcuselbow Hey! No bad blood here. I just made a self-proclaimed smart remark. Great vid. Love the excellent quality you manage to get on the sound and picture. You have great potential to make a huge growth. ❤️
I slammed that sub button 😘@@marcuselbow
Thanks Mick! Thanks for watching brother! 🙏🏾👊🏾
Great video and great information my brother!!🙏🏾✊🏾💚
Thanks LS! 🙏🏾👊🏾
I thought I was the only one with noise on the ZOOM Mixer. I'm using the ZOOM R16 as a recorder from a Peavey PV14 Mixer...and I do get noise when recording. Once I remove the R16 from the line and into another recording device the noise stops.
Hello Family! for some reason I'm getting a error that says driver won't initialize. I've uninstalled and reinstalled the l12 driver but nothing. Im trying to sync with my MPC and reason software.
The mackie onyx16 I know it can record into an sd card. Can it record the track separately into the sd card or only when connected to a daw? Thanks.
Yes it can record multi tracks to an SD card
Thank you!