Have you used the MPC One/Live/X with a multitrack recorder? LMK! Also, here's the discounted link for our exp pack: teftyandmeems.com/discount/PHRASES The code expires at the end of September 2021 👍 ❤❤❤
I have a One, and recently purchased a Model 12 (good purchase, btw). One thing I like about it is that you can, in a pinch, use it for backing tracks, and the MIDI out can send MIDI clock and MTC, so it can drive the delays or arpeggios on at least one synth (again, haven't tried it yet), or sync up to other sequencers. It's a bummer that the MIDI in won't receive these signals, though, as I really wanted to buy a second unit and slave them together. Perhaps Tascam should get on that, too. Really dig the track, btw.
I have an old Korg D1600 but I haven't experimented with it alongside my MPC One. It can't be used as an interface so I tend to use it for linear recording.
@@hardtakeoff people who are reporting crackle-pops are NOT setting it up right. Open the control panel and start adjusting until it's stable, like you do with any audio interface. It's all very 'tell me you're new without telling me you're new'
Oh man this is the channel I have been looking for!!! Liked and subscribed!! Literally the setup I’m after. I brought the Onyx 8 and have realised the hard way that I now need the Model 12. Keep up the good work man!!!
What’s up man. Ordered a Onyx 12 and it comes in tomorrow but I was wondering what issues you had with it with your mpc? Something tells me I should just send it back, order a model 12 and never even open the onyx
Looking for a new mixer myself to go along with my MPC ONE and the Tascam Model 12 seems like a great choice. Thanks Tefty for another great informative video. All the best
Your vid's are awesome and I'm a fan. For anyone not getting your explanation on the Model D output I'd suggest they think of the Model D as a "player piano" that responds to a hole-punched roll of paper (MIDI) that triggers the notes.. but the output is 100% analog like a guitar, mic vocals, or analog synth. So, to get that analog signal back into a digital format (DAW, MPC, Model 12) treat it like you're recording mic/guitar. It's going to have to go through a A/D conversion to get back into the digital world of DAW/MPC/Model 12.
I've been looking for a unit to add to my setup. The MC707, Maschine + and Digitakt. Your videos on the MPC One are giving me major GAS vibes. The cost and everything I see it do, DAMN!!!
I think the delay comes down to the capacitance. In the end, the discharge of the capacitors result in a delay that can't be avoided without the risk of heat, if the discharged is allowed too fast. Sound, is still just electricity..
Downloaded the sample pack. Great stuff, although my level of sophistication doesn't qualify me to make a fair assessment. In any event, another great post. I can't wait until I understand everything you are talking about. Regardless, your chill demeanor and your thoughtful delivery makes your material approachable to a broad range of consumers. Keep it coming, sir.
Hi! At 3:00 you mention the MPC is sending drums to 5/6. How is it connected? I see only power and usb host cable in the back of the MPC. Thanks love your content!
Wanted to share a story with you. I'm a singer songwriter who after so many years of throwing away money on studio time finally decided to invest in gear. Originally I was just gonna get an old 414 tascam and a boss 404 sampler and just find a good engineer to do transfers and clean up mixes. And I specifically wanted to go DAWless because I didn't want to go thru any learning curves with software recording. Went to guitar center in LA and was told about the Model 12. Then when I got back to the bay area, I went to another guitar center and was told about the MPC One. Soon afterwards the idea of pairing the two hit me. Wasn't exactly sure though how this idea would be received with others, but again I wanted to take a chance with going full on dawless in these days and times and seeing that I just turned 50, I wanted to use this opportunity to go back in time a bit to when I was actually recording stuff on older tascams and mpc in the 90's. Then I came across this video randomly. This is a confirmation that I'm on the right track. Thank you for this. And if it's cool... I'd love to hit you up from time to time on pointers on how to really use these two machines together to get really take my tracks to the next level.
Turning up the main fader to increase studio monitor volume causes internal distortion. How do you turn up the volume on your studio monitors without turning up the main faders.
Anyone having issues with MPC and Tascam 12 where outputs 1/2, 7/8, and 9/10 are the only usb audio outputs from the MPC to the model 12? I just got my Model 12 and am experiencing this issue. Just changed my firmware to 1.30 and can't revert back to older versions it seems. Just looking for some sage!🍻
Hi Tefty! Fantastic video as always. I was planning to get a Model 12 today for my MPC One and then I checked your channel and saw this🤣 Thanks for the tests you have made. I’m curious about the usb hub you are using for your setup, could you please tell me which one you are using? I’m also curious about the midi hubs(thru, merger etc.) you use, could you please share the information? Thanks a lot!
Does anyone know? Can you use USB B of Key 37 to *output* the L/R audio of a sequence? Asking as my mixer (a Yamaha MG10XU) has a USB B 2input/2output that allows for monitoring signal while NOT sending that monitored signal to the stereo out (i.e. this allows monitoring MPC tracks while laying down vocals, guitar, bass etc thru mixer into MPC).
Great video. MPC One is amazing with the Zoom Livetrak 12 also. Since the 2.10.1 update, MPC is a game changer. Watch Ableton enter the fray next year. That Ableton Akai former partnership will become a serious rivalry in the coming years. 🎹🤘💻🎤
I' m currently using the MPC One with my Focusrite Clarett+ 8 Pre as an audio interface. Love the idea to shape the sound with a mixer like the Model 12 while recording into the MPC and the multitrack option. But I guess the Model 12 might be downgrade when it comes to the quality of the preamps, the converters and the latency compared to the Clarett+?!?!
Looking forward to doing something similar with my MPC One & my Zoom L12...although I do not expect better results than your Tascam Model 12(less options but still functional). Mainly I want to learn to use it as my preferred set up for writing & a live performance setup. As always thanks for your excellent content & info!! 💯🔥👊🏼
Also I am assuming that I can use my MPC One as a ‘playback’ device of prerecorded tracks instead of a computer/tablet to use in a live setup. Having different tracks routed to a mixer such as my Zoom L12 to control IMO seems like a handy option.
Cool video! I own an Sp404 Mk2 with a looping guitar rig (Aeros Looper) and have the Tascam Model 12 being shipped. I'm so excited! Any good videos detailing the MIDI functionality with the Tascam? Can I get it to record as soon as I start a loop? Thanks!
Is model 12 the only mixer that will wok wirh mpc one or is there any cheaper models that work that are reosenably priced i heard all bheringer mixers will work two is that true ?
Bought Model 16 in early July, still hasn't got one because Tascam quality control appears to be awful, the first one broke in a week, the second one came defective, it's the end of September now and I'm still waiting for them to hopefully repair it. Think twice before getting a Tascam, unfortunately I am not aware of any competing product on the market, a bunch of them do sd recording of just the master.
What is the advantage of passing audio through the MPC? I understand that in this case you can use MPC for sampling or/and as audio effect, but with at last 8 ms latency. Isn't it better to control external synthesizers from MPC via MIDI and run the mixer in standalone mode (that is, connect MPC to the mixer with audio cable, not usb)? I have no experience with MPC, but I am seriously considering one, hence the question.
Good question! The benefit is being able to split out the sampled tracks in the MPC into multiple channels. For instance, if I just routed the outputs from the MPC, then the drums and guitar parts would be "baked" in together on a stereo track. What's nice about the Model 12/16/24 is you have each track automatically setup as an analog mix AND multitrack recording session. Let me know if that answers your question! 🍻
@@TeftyMeems Yes, that explains it all. However, you can probably record external tracks on a mixer and export MPC tracks to a DAW as audio? Only in that case you can't mix on the mixer anymore, you have to go back to the computer.
yup, lots of ways of achieving similar goals. The Tascam approach is nice because it multitracks live performance stuff while being able to directly connect into the MPC audio routing. But yeah, could totally export tracks directly out of the MPC.
Dude, you titled. this is MPC one with model 12 yet talked more about all the other things connected... why not just focus on the mpc and model 12? most of us dont have all the other stuff
Here's what I don't get with this - why not just record the audio into the MPC as loops and then trigger as one shots? I believe you have an analogue mixer with the synths coming into the MPC. I have the same setup and just record my gear into the MPC in 4/8/16 bar takes per sequence. Then explode everything and send make the sequences into a song. This way you can export all the WAV files and mix every drum separately instead of being limited to 12 tracks. I just export stems and drag into Ableton. I guess the multi tracking at once thing is the only thing I can't do, but I don't really feel like that's a hinderance.
I can see two uses - as a multi-channel input interface e.g. for drums or anything needing more inputs than the MPC has, and during mixdown to enable outboard effects, for bringing in audio from MIDI synths, and maybe as a MIDI controller and recording the stereo result in the Tascam. Personally I export stems from the MPC and mix in Harrison Mixbus because much of the mixing I do in the MPC (or even while recording to the MPC) so the final mix is just balance and final tweaks.
@@unclemick-synths Yep, and I believe he has an analogue mixer for that first point you made. Obviously I am not criticizing his setup (its sweet) just wondering if I missed anything there.
@@landonh3535 it's not quite the same with a regular mixer - that's still only a stereo input into the One whereas the Tascam gives multiple inputs to the One. That would enable recording multiple tracks simultaneously whether that's to record a drum kit or to render multiple hardware synths to audio in one pass.
Curious if the model 16 & model 24 have the same latency as the 12 considering that the model 12 is a digital mixer while the 16 and 24 are analog boards.
Hey guys. I’m fairly new to music production so bare with me. Right now I solely use the mpc & make sample based beats (for now). I don’t even know if I’m about to make sense but here goes... I am wondering if I can sync all of the tracks that I have made on the mpc into the mixer & multitrack? I am super keen to purchase a mixer but for the life of me haven’t got a clue on how to operate one & use it with the mpc live 2.
how are the preamps? i have the dp24 and this would be more up my ally. can get ride of that and my pa mixer and have just one. Like you, I like having the option of not having to use the pc.
To be sure I understand - for the recording of the MPC did you use a MIDI out cable from the M12 into the MPC for sync and record the audio out from the MPC into the M12? When you say hybrid do you mean because you are a recording into the M12 at the same time you are recording into Ableton? I know I'm asking for too much but sometimes I wish folks would include a downloadable image or PDF showing their signal flow. 🤪 Cheers!
So unfortunately you can’t since the transport on the Model 12 from the MPC, so the Model 12 recording has to be started separately. The outputs from the MPC are going through the USB cable with the Audio Interface support from MPC 2.10. The hybrid approach is taking the files recorded from the SD card on the Model 12 and importing them into Ableton for a hybrid mix. Hopefully that clears some of the confusion 🙌
My tascam arrives next month. Can you confirm that I can hook up my synth audio to the mixer, usb to mpc and record midi on the mpc ?. This would allow me to re record and change midi on the fly or edit the midi track on mpc. So far only seen examples using internal mpc instruments.
@tefty Do u have sound issues with the new mpc 2.11. 5 update? When I'm connected with my tascam, there are sound glitches EVERYWHERE, anybody struggling with it too? Any solutions out there? It's pretty frustrating
I have the model 12 also and for the life of me I cannot figure out how to do multiple takes for vocals recording into multi track or overdub do you have any idea how to do that also is there a way to make the model 12 the master for timing so when you hit record everything records at the same time Or make the MPC the master so when you hit play and record it controls the model 12
Do you have a powered usb hub plugged directly into the MPC which is used for your Mixer and Midi inputs? Or are you using Midi inputs on the mixer and mixer direct to MPC?
I’m not an expert on d.a.w.l no next to nothing but never had a couple of the household the kids do but I agree I learn 12 and had to do things I like the new technology every time I try to use a W messing up and I’ve heard producers say if you don’t know what you’re doing you’ll be overwhelmed with options and make mistakes and some people may use it for the wrong reasons change the voice or whatever if I already can sound decent with most people crap then it’s just my personal pleasure add wanna learn but for me it ain’t worth it
Awesome. Question: are you recording all of the audio on the Model 12 SD card + recording all of the audio/midi on the MPC? I have an MPC X and just grabbed a Model 12 so super curious about your workflow. And I have a million questions about using the guitar with the MPC but later. THANKS
Hi John! So, not exactly. For writing parts, the Model 12 is mostly just setting levels and monitoring sounds. Once a jam or session has been crafted, we go about recording officially and use the Model 12 as a multitrack recorder. So we approach it as performing a whole song in one take, do a few takes, and assuming we got a good one, mix the best take. At that point, we could also import it into a DAW and do some overdubs, extra production, if we like. Let me know if that answers your question! Cheers 🍻
@@TeftyMeems Very much appreciated. Just to simplify -- the MPC is still the "master" and you are recording audio and midi tracks on the MPC just as you did before the Tascam Model 12. The Model 12 gives you more inputs and outputs and more tweaking.
Just got the 16. Is it possible to sidechain multiple external synths to a kick drum sample? Can the mpc handle that? I tried without much luck. Would it just be better to bring all the tracks into a daw?
I'm pretty sure the MPC can handle a sidechain but I don't remember off the top of my head how to chain it 🤔 However, if you're ultimately gonna mix it in the DAW, then yeah, probably easier to just do it in the DAW come time for mix.
I Got a question. When you multitrack recording and saving these tracks on the tascam sd card, are these all tracks recorded post eq, post fader, post gain, post fx, or they are just post gain? Really want to know it. Best regards.
For each channel you can set the recording signal pre / post compressor, or post EQ for recording on the Tascam or via USB on a PC. In the menu: "MTR/USB SEND POINT"
Depends on the use case. The bigger issue is that the MPC doesn't perform latency compensation. If you put two kicks together and delay one by 8ms, you're going to for sure hear the sound shift.
@@TeftyMeems ah but we aren’t talking about a kick. We are talking about an audio interface. And the standard ‘it’s good’ and often ‘the best you’re gonna get without destroying an awful lot of money’ is 5ms. So really, that’s a difference of 3ms you’re on about. And while the mpc might not have latency comp, most computer audio interfaces do, right in their system tray settings, and certainly in any daw people use. If the company that makes it doesn’t allow you to compensate on their hardware through menu diving, or at least with it plugged to a computer to save settings you can use when it’s not plugged into computer and instead the mpc, that’s a different issue they should undoubtedly solve… but when you are honest about 3ms difference from the rest of the pack, that’s really not a lot.
Actually I'm talking about the MPC being used as a hardware sequencer in addition to the audio coming out of the interface. If you have a kick on the MPC and a kick from an external drum machine being goth triggered at the same time, the 8ms could be noticeable. It's more of an "awareness" than a game breaking issue. For instance, if you have a synth doing tight percussive like arps (and it's external from the MPC) and the track needs to sound super "tight", then you could spend hours trying to figure out why your arps just feel subtly delayed/loose. Where as most modern DAWs calculate these timing issues in the background.
@@TeftyMeems yah that sucks. But at that point, record it in and adjust it as audio. I know that’s a workaround and sorta lame… but it’s there anyways.
Very helpful video. Would you tell me if I can multirecord to the Tascam disc, using MPC5000 and Tascam Model mixer ? Using the MPC5000 USB out and the main outs plugged in the Tascam stereo IN's ? I just prefer to use my MPC5000 instead of buying MPC One.
I have an older Onyx 16i from the mid 2000s. They’ve sounded great in the past. However, I think the Tascam has a great sound to it. Also I don’t think the new Onyx boards can multitrack to an SD card, only a mix.
Would I be right in assuming that there is no delay compensation in the Tascam when monitoring or on the SD card recordings? I.e. Sources switched to ‘pc’ are 8ms delayed compared to analog inputs that have the same midi clock? And is that latency consistent at 8ms whether it’s the MPC as a source or (say) the laptop? Did you find that latency difference ok for jamming/tracking or was it off-putting? Thanks
Sort of off topic, but I'm a podcaster who is just getting into music (I'm learning VCV Rack and just got a MicroFreak) and wondering whether you think the Model 12 might be the right hub for this sort of thing? They also have the Mixcast 4 coming out, which looks interesting and is definitely designed for podcasters, but I wonder whether the Model 12 might offer more room to grow if I get more into the music side.
That's what I am saying for years: Go back to separating the Process into its steps: Composing, Arranging, Mixing, and Mastering. My Studio is set up this way. I even have an old Alesis Fusion with an iPad as sequencer and nothing else connected in a Corner...just for composing without any distraction.... But with "I hit my "Apple-Watch".. No. I'm out ;-)
Latency is so overrated. It takes sound about 3 milliseconds to travel 1 meter. So 3 meters away from a speaker you already have 9 ms larency. Latency only matters if you don’t use the direct monitoring features of an interface or in this case the Model 12, but rely on for example playing an instrument and your monitor signal has to go through a plug-in before you monitor it. In all other cases it is completely irrelevant. About the Model 12: it is just great. I own more expensive gear, but the Tascam has kind of become the centerpiece of my home studio. It is just so convenient, although I still haven’t tried it with my MPC live…
Your missing the point. If you have drums coming out of the MPC with a delay of 8ms and then another analog drum machine doing a tight pattern, you'll notice the timing being slightly off. Same for a tight arpeggio coming out of analog synth. The MIDI will be in time with each other, but any audio tracks coming out of the MPC will have an inherent slight delay added. You can obviously work around it, but if you're unaware of it you could get frustrated with some things feeling off. There's a reason DAWs have latency compensation built in to fix this 👍
@@TeftyMeems Hello! You have to consider that the 12 is fully digital, offering DAW control etc., the mixing part of the 24 is analog. Although they look so similar. There are some options the 16 and the 24 don’t offer!
@@TeftyMeems Oops, haven’t tried out the MPC as a daw replacement in combination with the Model 12 yet, I simply supposed that the MPC would automatically compensate just like DAWs do. Thank you for the hint!
@@TeftyMeems I’ve got a Model 16 that has become the centerpiece for audio routing in my studio. I’ve used it less for recording than I expected when I got it, but that’s mostly on me being more focused on sorting out the studio than on writing. (That and being focused on writing loops on the MPC One - though the failure of one of my pads may slow that for a while.) I’ve been tempted to upgrade to the Model 24 but it offers less flexible Aux/FX routing than the Model 16. Also worth noting for those coming from the Model 12, you don’t get the DAW control of the Model 12 on the 16 and 24because they do their mixing in the analog domain and so aren’t digitizing the fader positions.
Have you used the MPC One/Live/X with a multitrack recorder? LMK!
Also, here's the discounted link for our exp pack: teftyandmeems.com/discount/PHRASES
The code expires at the end of September 2021 👍
❤❤❤
I have a One, and recently purchased a Model 12 (good purchase, btw). One thing I like about it is that you can, in a pinch, use it for backing tracks, and the MIDI out can send MIDI clock and MTC, so it can drive the delays or arpeggios on at least one synth (again, haven't tried it yet), or sync up to other sequencers. It's a bummer that the MIDI in won't receive these signals, though, as I really wanted to buy a second unit and slave them together. Perhaps Tascam should get on that, too. Really dig the track, btw.
I have an old Korg D1600 but I haven't experimented with it alongside my MPC One. It can't be used as an interface so I tend to use it for linear recording.
I use the MPC Live 2 and Zoom L-20R
I have a live 2 and model 12 as well. Im currently moving so i havent been able to try them out together but its in the back of my head
I have MPC ONE + Tascam MODEL 12 hooked together via USB hub with all my synths and it is really nice setup to make music with.
Nice!
So you're not getting all the crackling pops being reported all over the place when using an audio interface?
@@hardtakeoff I get pops when sending audio from the Tascam model 24 into my mpc x through usb audio interface mode.
@@hardtakeoff people who are reporting crackle-pops are NOT setting it up right. Open the control panel and start adjusting until it's stable, like you do with any audio interface. It's all very 'tell me you're new without telling me you're new'
Dude that song is pretty fire actually.
Modern and minimal dawless rig - loving it 😊
Oh man this is the channel I have been looking for!!! Liked and subscribed!! Literally the setup I’m after. I brought the Onyx 8 and have realised the hard way that I now need the Model 12. Keep up the good work man!!!
Thanks so much! We actually moved our technical content over to a new channel. Here's the link: ua-cam.com/channels/_0rGx4ifn3dufNhicjh06g.html
What’s up man. Ordered a Onyx 12 and it comes in tomorrow but I was wondering what issues you had with it with your mpc? Something tells me I should just send it back, order a model 12 and never even open the onyx
i'Ve been using TASCAM 12 with lots of different grooveboxes, it's a great DAWless hub! with MIDI sync
The MIDI sync, is important, and this is the only mixer/recorder, that has it.
Wow your knowledge is next level…thank you for taking the time to educate all of us following musicians.
Looking for a new mixer myself to go along with my MPC ONE and the Tascam Model 12 seems like a great choice. Thanks Tefty for another great informative video. All the best
Just got my tascam yesterday!
Nice! Congrats on the setup 🙌
Your vid's are awesome and I'm a fan. For anyone not getting your explanation on the Model D output I'd suggest they think of the Model D as a "player piano" that responds to a hole-punched roll of paper (MIDI) that triggers the notes.. but the output is 100% analog like a guitar, mic vocals, or analog synth. So, to get that analog signal back into a digital format (DAW, MPC, Model 12) treat it like you're recording mic/guitar. It's going to have to go through a A/D conversion to get back into the digital world of DAW/MPC/Model 12.
What a beautiful singing voice
Ghost spotted, Tefty is a Guardian!
Nice setup and cool sounding track! Also: that was a beautiful guitar there!
nice track. simple and catchy. thanks for the overview of the rig...
People keep saying the Model 12+ line is a great DAWless setup when its also an incredible DAW setup too.
Very cool. You just sold me on the Model 12.
I was just looking at this mixer! Thanks for making a video on this.🙏🏻
I'm really wanting to get the model 16 for my MPC ONE.
very nice I started out that way, with your talent probably wouldnt know the difference it sounds Good.
Same setup! You guys will provide ton of inspiration I am sure. Will try your pack too. Good stuff!
I've been looking for a unit to add to my setup. The MC707, Maschine + and Digitakt. Your videos on the MPC One are giving me major GAS vibes. The cost and everything I see it do, DAMN!!!
Yep, gears expensive. However! Gear tends to retain value after the initial purchase 👍👍
@@TeftyMeems keep telling yourself that haha, definitely not true
great breakdown! Thank you for the video. Subbed right away!
I think the delay comes down to the capacitance. In the end, the discharge of the capacitors result in a delay that can't be avoided without the risk of heat, if the discharged is allowed too fast. Sound, is still just electricity..
Downloaded the sample pack. Great stuff, although my level of sophistication doesn't qualify me to make a fair assessment. In any event, another great post. I can't wait until I understand everything you are talking about. Regardless, your chill demeanor and your thoughtful delivery makes your material approachable to a broad range of consumers. Keep it coming, sir.
By the way I love that song can’t wait to hear the full version
Could anyone recommend a mixer like the tascam but with less latency?
Hi! At 3:00 you mention the MPC is sending drums to 5/6. How is it connected? I see only power and usb host cable in the back of the MPC. Thanks love your content!
The Model 12 is super nice have one too
Could you name all 4 again please? I couldn’t find it in the description.
Wanted to share a story with you. I'm a singer songwriter who after so many years of throwing away money on studio time finally decided to invest in gear. Originally I was just gonna get an old 414 tascam and a boss 404 sampler and just find a good engineer to do transfers and clean up mixes. And I specifically wanted to go DAWless because I didn't want to go thru any learning curves with software recording. Went to guitar center in LA and was told about the Model 12. Then when I got back to the bay area, I went to another guitar center and was told about the MPC One. Soon afterwards the idea of pairing the two hit me. Wasn't exactly sure though how this idea would be received with others, but again I wanted to take a chance with going full on dawless in these days and times and seeing that I just turned 50, I wanted to use this opportunity to go back in time a bit to when I was actually recording stuff on older tascams and mpc in the 90's. Then I came across this video randomly. This is a confirmation that I'm on the right track. Thank you for this. And if it's cool... I'd love to hit you up from time to time on pointers on how to really use these two machines together to get really take my tracks to the next level.
Could the Model12 function like your analog board does for routing…? Or are the ins/outs not the same?
Just started working with model 16. Very cool. No idea how to get audition to play via any other channel than 1/2.
can you do a tascam model 12 setup with a docking station with mpc one where to plug in Thanks!!!!
Turning up the main fader to increase studio monitor volume causes internal distortion. How do you turn up the volume on your studio monitors without turning up the main faders.
Anyone having issues with MPC and Tascam 12 where outputs 1/2, 7/8, and 9/10 are the only usb audio outputs from the MPC to the model 12?
I just got my Model 12 and am experiencing this issue. Just changed my firmware to 1.30 and can't revert back to older versions it seems.
Just looking for some sage!🍻
Hi Tefty! Fantastic video as always. I was planning to get a Model 12 today for my MPC One and then I checked your channel and saw this🤣 Thanks for the tests you have made. I’m curious about the usb hub you are using for your setup, could you please tell me which one you are using? I’m also curious about the midi hubs(thru, merger etc.) you use, could you please share the information? Thanks a lot!
i wish y'all guys would show how to hook up cabling to the model 12 and pc usb my usb indicator light my indicator light will not light up
that track is nice i would like to hear the full track
Great video
SUPER HELPFULL
Nice indeed
Does anyone know?
Can you use USB B of Key 37 to *output* the L/R audio of a sequence?
Asking as my mixer (a Yamaha MG10XU) has a USB B 2input/2output that allows for monitoring signal while NOT sending that monitored signal to the stereo out (i.e. this allows monitoring MPC tracks while laying down vocals, guitar, bass etc thru mixer into MPC).
Great video.
MPC One is amazing with the Zoom Livetrak 12 also.
Since the 2.10.1 update, MPC is a game changer.
Watch Ableton enter the fray next year.
That Ableton Akai former partnership will become a serious rivalry in the coming years. 🎹🤘💻🎤
Thank you! 🙏 I was looking at that Zoom recorder as well 👍 some decent multitrack options to choose from.
Thanks man
I' m currently using the MPC One with my Focusrite Clarett+ 8 Pre as an audio interface. Love the idea to shape the sound with a mixer like the Model 12 while recording into the MPC and the multitrack option. But I guess the Model 12 might be downgrade when it comes to the quality of the preamps, the converters and the latency compared to the Clarett+?!?!
Looking forward to doing something similar with my MPC One & my Zoom L12...although I do not expect better results than your Tascam Model 12(less options but still functional). Mainly I want to learn to use it as my preferred set up for writing & a live performance setup.
As always thanks for your excellent content & info!! 💯🔥👊🏼
Also I am assuming that I can use my MPC One as a ‘playback’ device of prerecorded tracks instead of a computer/tablet to use in a live setup. Having different tracks routed to a mixer such as my Zoom L12 to control IMO seems like a handy option.
Yup, absolutely.
Thanks for watching! 🙏❤
I'm looking to buy Model 12 but looking around on the net why do we have so many used Model 12 for sale can u have Used or New!!!!
I've got the Model 12. I'm just a little lost on the USB hub connection
lets hope akai fix the latency with an update
Wish I could make my new mackie to work the same. Smh can anyone help?
Cool video! I own an Sp404 Mk2 with a looping guitar rig (Aeros Looper) and have the Tascam Model 12 being shipped. I'm so excited! Any good videos detailing the MIDI functionality with the Tascam? Can I get it to record as soon as I start a loop? Thanks!
Is model 12 the only mixer that will wok wirh mpc one or is there any cheaper models that work that are reosenably priced i heard all bheringer mixers will work two is that true ?
Bought Model 16 in early July, still hasn't got one because Tascam quality control appears to be awful, the first one broke in a week, the second one came defective, it's the end of September now and I'm still waiting for them to hopefully repair it. Think twice before getting a Tascam, unfortunately I am not aware of any competing product on the market, a bunch of them do sd recording of just the master.
What is the hub that's being used? You mention this at around 6 minutes. Thanks for another great video!
Tefty - Why didn't you go with the Tascam Model 24 with more tracks.
What is the advantage of passing audio through the MPC? I understand that in this case you can use MPC for sampling or/and as audio effect, but with at last 8 ms latency. Isn't it better to control external synthesizers from MPC via MIDI and run the mixer in standalone mode (that is, connect MPC to the mixer with audio cable, not usb)?
I have no experience with MPC, but I am seriously considering one, hence the question.
Good question! The benefit is being able to split out the sampled tracks in the MPC into multiple channels. For instance, if I just routed the outputs from the MPC, then the drums and guitar parts would be "baked" in together on a stereo track. What's nice about the Model 12/16/24 is you have each track automatically setup as an analog mix AND multitrack recording session.
Let me know if that answers your question! 🍻
@@TeftyMeems Yes, that explains it all. However, you can probably record external tracks on a mixer and export MPC tracks to a DAW as audio? Only in that case you can't mix on the mixer anymore, you have to go back to the computer.
yup, lots of ways of achieving similar goals. The Tascam approach is nice because it multitracks live performance stuff while being able to directly connect into the MPC audio routing. But yeah, could totally export tracks directly out of the MPC.
@@TeftyMeems what do you have the Arturia keyboard hooked up to in this video? Also is everything going to a sub hub?
Dude, you titled. this is MPC one with model 12 yet talked more about all the other things connected... why not just focus on the mpc and model 12? most of us dont have all the other stuff
Here's what I don't get with this - why not just record the audio into the MPC as loops and then trigger as one shots? I believe you have an analogue mixer with the synths coming into the MPC. I have the same setup and just record my gear into the MPC in 4/8/16 bar takes per sequence. Then explode everything and send make the sequences into a song. This way you can export all the WAV files and mix every drum separately instead of being limited to 12 tracks. I just export stems and drag into Ableton.
I guess the multi tracking at once thing is the only thing I can't do, but I don't really feel like that's a hinderance.
I can see two uses - as a multi-channel input interface e.g. for drums or anything needing more inputs than the MPC has, and during mixdown to enable outboard effects, for bringing in audio from MIDI synths, and maybe as a MIDI controller and recording the stereo result in the Tascam.
Personally I export stems from the MPC and mix in Harrison Mixbus because much of the mixing I do in the MPC (or even while recording to the MPC) so the final mix is just balance and final tweaks.
@@unclemick-synths Yep, and I believe he has an analogue mixer for that first point you made. Obviously I am not criticizing his setup (its sweet) just wondering if I missed anything there.
@@landonh3535 it's not quite the same with a regular mixer - that's still only a stereo input into the One whereas the Tascam gives multiple inputs to the One. That would enable recording multiple tracks simultaneously whether that's to record a drum kit or to render multiple hardware synths to audio in one pass.
@@unclemick-synths Oh yeah, I noted that in my first post.The issue is that The One only has stereo Ins anyway, so that wouldn't matter here.
You try triggering MPC from Model 12 to simplify track edits? Think that approach works for overdubs 👀
Is Tascam Model 12 needs power amp for using passive speakers?
So strange you make the most relevant videos to my interests. I was looking at a multitrack today
Great minds 💪💪
Do you have a good idea on how to get a analog mix ?
Si je comprend bien le Tascam permet de séparer les pistes de la MPCONE ?
Curious if the model 16 & model 24 have the same latency as the 12 considering that the model 12 is a digital mixer while the 16 and 24 are analog boards.
Hey guys. I’m fairly new to music production so bare with me. Right now I solely use the mpc & make sample based beats (for now). I don’t even know if I’m about to make sense but here goes... I am wondering if I can sync all of the tracks that I have made on the mpc into the mixer & multitrack? I am super keen to purchase a mixer but for the life of me haven’t got a clue on how to operate one & use it with the mpc live 2.
hello what the sony headphones do you use?, thanks
how are the preamps? i have the dp24 and this would be more up my ally. can get ride of that and my pa mixer and have just one. Like you, I like having the option of not having to use the pc.
What kind of usb hub do you have ?
I would like to know if it’s a possibility if I can record the XYFX to tascam without issues?
To be sure I understand - for the recording of the MPC did you use a MIDI out cable from the M12 into the MPC for sync and record the audio out from the MPC into the M12? When you say hybrid do you mean because you are a recording into the M12 at the same time you are recording into Ableton? I know I'm asking for too much but sometimes I wish folks would include a downloadable image or PDF showing their signal flow. 🤪 Cheers!
So unfortunately you can’t since the transport on the Model 12 from the MPC, so the Model 12 recording has to be started separately. The outputs from the MPC are going through the USB cable with the Audio Interface support from MPC 2.10. The hybrid approach is taking the files recorded from the SD card on the Model 12 and importing them into Ableton for a hybrid mix. Hopefully that clears some of the confusion 🙌
@@TeftyMeems but then why not make the Model 12 the master and sync the MPC to it? What am I missing? - I'm sure there's something. 😎
OK a quick search - since I don't own an MPC hardware device - has told me that MPC hardware bites at being a MIDI slave and it hasn't been fixed yet.
What about all the pops and cracks people have consistently reported?
It’s Elvis so don’t worry
Is it possible to master in the Tascam?
What was the device that you had to the right of the MPC One, and what does it do?
Seriously? It's a model d, a mono synth. A clone of the original Minimoog from the 70s.
Do you know if the MPC One will sync to the Model 12's Midi Time Code through USB?
My tascam arrives next month. Can you confirm that I can hook up my synth audio to the mixer, usb to mpc and record midi on the mpc ?. This would allow me to re record and change midi on the fly or edit the midi track on mpc. So far only seen examples using internal mpc instruments.
This or the SSL Six?
Got this and return it later it is an awesome mixer packed with advance features but one thing ..the sound just not there too bad.
@tefty
Do u have sound issues with the new mpc 2.11. 5 update? When I'm connected with my tascam, there are sound glitches EVERYWHERE, anybody struggling with it too? Any solutions out there? It's pretty frustrating
I have the model 12 also and for the life of me I cannot figure out how to do multiple takes for vocals recording into multi track or overdub do you have any idea how to do that also is there a way to make the model 12 the master for timing so when you hit record everything records at the same time Or make the MPC the master so when you hit play and record it controls the model 12
Do you have a powered usb hub plugged directly into the MPC which is used for your Mixer and Midi inputs? Or are you using Midi inputs on the mixer and mixer direct to MPC?
You answered me at 6minutes. Sorry for being inpatient 🤣🙏🏽
Noobie dawless question: If the Tascam can record and store audio what is the point of the Mpc one? Trying to figure which one to get first. Thanks!
I’m not an expert on d.a.w.l no next to nothing but never had a couple of the household the kids do but I agree I learn 12 and had to do things I like the new technology every time I try to use a W messing up and I’ve heard producers say if you don’t know what you’re doing you’ll be overwhelmed with options and make mistakes and some people may use it for the wrong reasons change the voice or whatever if I already can sound decent with most people crap then it’s just my personal pleasure add wanna learn but for me it ain’t worth it
Awesome. Question: are you recording all of the audio on the Model 12 SD card + recording all of the audio/midi on the MPC? I have an MPC X and just grabbed a Model 12 so super curious about your workflow. And I have a million questions about using the guitar with the MPC but later. THANKS
Hi John! So, not exactly. For writing parts, the Model 12 is mostly just setting levels and monitoring sounds. Once a jam or session has been crafted, we go about recording officially and use the Model 12 as a multitrack recorder. So we approach it as performing a whole song in one take, do a few takes, and assuming we got a good one, mix the best take.
At that point, we could also import it into a DAW and do some overdubs, extra production, if we like.
Let me know if that answers your question! Cheers 🍻
@@TeftyMeems Very much appreciated. Just to simplify -- the MPC is still the "master" and you are recording audio and midi tracks on the MPC just as you did before the Tascam Model 12. The Model 12 gives you more inputs and outputs and more tweaking.
Yes correct! MPC is still the master.
So for recording guitar and vocals Is is possible to do live track recording from the tascam to the mpc through that usb connection?
Correct 👍
Just got the 16. Is it possible to sidechain multiple external synths to a kick drum sample? Can the mpc handle that? I tried without much luck. Would it just be better to bring all the tracks into a daw?
I'm pretty sure the MPC can handle a sidechain but I don't remember off the top of my head how to chain it 🤔 However, if you're ultimately gonna mix it in the DAW, then yeah, probably easier to just do it in the DAW come time for mix.
How is this dawless if MPC acts literally like a daw? :D
Are there any other mixers instead of the Tascam you could use?
The Zoom mixers are an option. I haven't tried them personally though.
@@TeftyMeems Dont you need a sequencer in this whole set-up?
I Got a question.
When you multitrack recording and saving these tracks on the tascam sd card, are these all tracks recorded post eq, post fader, post gain, post fx, or they are just post gain?
Really want to know it.
Best regards.
For each channel you can set the recording signal pre / post compressor, or post EQ for recording on the Tascam or via USB on a PC. In the menu: "MTR/USB SEND POINT"
8ms latency.... that's really, really, not bad.
Depends on the use case. The bigger issue is that the MPC doesn't perform latency compensation. If you put two kicks together and delay one by 8ms, you're going to for sure hear the sound shift.
@@TeftyMeems ah but we aren’t talking about a kick. We are talking about an audio interface. And the standard ‘it’s good’ and often ‘the best you’re gonna get without destroying an awful lot of money’ is 5ms. So really, that’s a difference of 3ms you’re on about. And while the mpc might not have latency comp, most computer audio interfaces do, right in their system tray settings, and certainly in any daw people use. If the company that makes it doesn’t allow you to compensate on their hardware through menu diving, or at least with it plugged to a computer to save settings you can use when it’s not plugged into computer and instead the mpc, that’s a different issue they should undoubtedly solve…
but when you are honest about 3ms difference from the rest of the pack, that’s really not a lot.
Actually I'm talking about the MPC being used as a hardware sequencer in addition to the audio coming out of the interface. If you have a kick on the MPC and a kick from an external drum machine being goth triggered at the same time, the 8ms could be noticeable. It's more of an "awareness" than a game breaking issue. For instance, if you have a synth doing tight percussive like arps (and it's external from the MPC) and the track needs to sound super "tight", then you could spend hours trying to figure out why your arps just feel subtly delayed/loose. Where as most modern DAWs calculate these timing issues in the background.
@@TeftyMeems yah that sucks. But at that point, record it in and adjust it as audio. I know that’s a workaround and sorta lame… but it’s there anyways.
Yup agreed
Very helpful video. Would you tell me if I can multirecord to the Tascam disc, using MPC5000 and Tascam Model mixer ? Using the MPC5000 USB out and the main outs plugged in the Tascam stereo IN's ? I just prefer to use my MPC5000 instead of buying MPC One.
Nope, the USB-Audio support is only recent on the MPC One, Live, X models.
@@TeftyMeems thanks homie !
12 is not the same has the 16 and 24.
anything more than 5ms makes performance an issue...
Stuck between buying the Tascam or the new Mackie Onyx 16
The Tascam sounds better, imo
@@NoQualmsTheArtist Cheers for the feedback, I am actually more concerned about the audio drivers
I have an older Onyx 16i from the mid 2000s. They’ve sounded great in the past. However, I think the Tascam has a great sound to it. Also I don’t think the new Onyx boards can multitrack to an SD card, only a mix.
@@TeftyMeems I too have an Onyx 1620i which I used for years but the Firewire connection
has left me wanting this Tascam Model 12 now.
Yuuuup I just recently looked into Firewire options for my PC 🤣🤣
It's been a solid analog mixer, but a Model 24 is very tempting as a main setup 👀
0ld gear wins what ladacy g0d i hate it g0 back t0 the pass all ready
Would I be right in assuming that there is no delay compensation in the Tascam when monitoring or on the SD card recordings? I.e. Sources switched to ‘pc’ are 8ms delayed compared to analog inputs that have the same midi clock? And is that latency consistent at 8ms whether it’s the MPC as a source or (say) the laptop? Did you find that latency difference ok for jamming/tracking or was it off-putting? Thanks
Go into the MPC grid view and nudge 2 or 3 times to the left with TC turned off. I find this is all compensation you need
Sort of off topic, but I'm a podcaster who is just getting into music (I'm learning VCV Rack and just got a MicroFreak) and wondering whether you think the Model 12 might be the right hub for this sort of thing? They also have the Mixcast 4 coming out, which looks interesting and is definitely designed for podcasters, but I wonder whether the Model 12 might offer more room to grow if I get more into the music side.
DAWless means without computer. Not without gear. People need to chill.
8ms. Screw that.
How are you hooking up the mpc to the tascam ? Just usb chord ?
That's what I am saying for years: Go back to separating the Process into its steps: Composing, Arranging, Mixing, and Mastering. My Studio is set up this way. I even have an old Alesis Fusion with an iPad as sequencer and nothing else connected in a Corner...just for composing without any distraction....
But with "I hit my "Apple-Watch"..
No. I'm out ;-)
Latency is so overrated. It takes sound about 3 milliseconds to travel 1 meter. So 3 meters away from a speaker you already have 9 ms larency. Latency only matters if you don’t use the direct monitoring features of an interface or in this case the Model 12, but rely on for example playing an instrument and your monitor signal has to go through a plug-in before you monitor it. In all other cases it is completely irrelevant.
About the Model 12: it is just great. I own more expensive gear, but the Tascam has kind of become the centerpiece of my home studio. It is just so convenient, although I still haven’t tried it with my MPC live…
Your missing the point. If you have drums coming out of the MPC with a delay of 8ms and then another analog drum machine doing a tight pattern, you'll notice the timing being slightly off. Same for a tight arpeggio coming out of analog synth. The MIDI will be in time with each other, but any audio tracks coming out of the MPC will have an inherent slight delay added. You can obviously work around it, but if you're unaware of it you could get frustrated with some things feeling off.
There's a reason DAWs have latency compensation built in to fix this 👍
Also, agreed on the Model 12! I kinda wish I'd went with the 24 instead. Thinking about replacing my Onyx 1640i with Model 24 🤔
@@TeftyMeems Hello! You have to consider that the 12 is fully digital, offering DAW control etc., the mixing part of the 24 is analog. Although they look so similar. There are some options the 16 and the 24 don’t offer!
@@TeftyMeems Oops, haven’t tried out the MPC as a daw replacement in combination with the Model 12 yet, I simply supposed that the MPC would automatically compensate just like DAWs do. Thank you for the hint!
@@TeftyMeems I’ve got a Model 16 that has become the centerpiece for audio routing in my studio. I’ve used it less for recording than I expected when I got it, but that’s mostly on me being more focused on sorting out the studio than on writing. (That and being focused on writing loops on the MPC One - though the failure of one of my pads may slow that for a while.) I’ve been tempted to upgrade to the Model 24 but it offers less flexible Aux/FX routing than the Model 16. Also worth noting for those coming from the Model 12, you don’t get the DAW control of the Model 12 on the 16 and 24because they do their mixing in the analog domain and so aren’t digitizing the fader positions.