Id say he could've but a lot less likely especially when they were playing with a Webber with no legs at that point in his career. I think Pistons would've won if Ben was still in.@@MercedesBoyzz
Pistons won thanks to Kobe. The 4 games where they beat the Lakers- Kobe shot 10 for 27(Game1), 4 for 13(Game3), 8 for 25(Game4) and 7 for 21(Game5) for an out of this world 33%. Which is also why they only won 1 championship. It was a fluke championship.
@@Cakebatteredthe warriors just have to many options they will destroy them, kd and steph can not be gusrded one on one you will have to double team one.
The Pistons only one won because the NBA didn't want their style of play to be the norm... and they hated Sheed...Andre you know physically they would have worn y'all out...Curry couldn't/ still can't play defense... Andre keep it real, you know damn well why they only won one championship
Warriors would smoke Pistons. KD 1 on 1 would destroy Prince and if they double you got 2 of the best shooters. Warriors can also pick n roll and have Curry dancing with Ben or Rasheed. Draymond and Iggy are great facilitators you have Klay curry Durant moving on different sides who can you guard on the cuts and screens.
Andre is on crack! Golden State was scoring all these points in the softest NBA era ever! You can't play DEFENSE, everything is geared toward offense! Every ticky tack foul is called, traveling never is, theres an epidemic of flopping. If GS played Detroit under mid 2000's rules, they get f'in destroyed!!
You’re literally defeating your own argument. If the pistons could play “defense” as you put it but the warriors weren’t allowed to then your point would make sense. But if the rules are the same for both teams in either era then the warriors would steamroll them. There is no defense that’s ever been allowed in any nba era that would save you from Steph and kd averaging around 30 each when they are both on the same team in their prime. It doesn’t exist man, put down the copium. The pistons would be LOST trying to play this warriors team
@@mookiestewart3776 What are you talking about? The rules today are not the same as they were in the 2000's. Defense still existed back then, today there isn't any. You're either playing with modern day NBA rules or 2000's era. Yes you're right if they played today's game where the rules muzzle Detroits defense the '04 Piston would lose, 20 years ago GS gets destroyed. Think about what you just said, Steph and KD are dropping 30+ in an era with little to no defense. They wouldn't be that affective in an era where you have to play half court offense, creating your own shot against actual physical defenses. They wouldn't have a chance in hell averaging 30 a game.
@@RustyShackleford-od1nd stop with this nonsense. defense still exists. in fact, it has more advanced schemes as zone defenses are pretty illegal back then. hence, you cant really zone against Shaq. this Warriors team is elite offensively and DEFENSIVELY. They have 4 elite defenders and an above average defender in Curry in his position. Have you seen a 34 year old Steph guarding a Prime Tatum in the 22 Finals? LOL. Also, as Iggy said, what are they gonna defend if this team averages 80 a game? That's like two quarters for this team. The thing is that the NBA offense has been so good and elite, teams are now breaking all-time offensive rating records that no matter how good your defenses are, it's gonna be defeated by a better offense. Great offense beats great defense every time. No defense will hold the perpetual motion GS had in any era. The 04 era will gonna be STOMPED so hard because their defense is molded to battle against ISO players like Shaq and Kobe. This team forces you to switch (did you hear Iggy talking about pulling Duncan in the perimeter and KD getting switched to Tony Parker)? This team is so lethal because they can get easy baskets or force you into switches -- Steph with a slow footed big on the perimeter or KD against a small guard in the block.
@@iinarrab19 Lmao You lost credibility at "defense still exists." Tell me you're a Zoomer without telling me you're a Zoomer. REAL defense hasn't existed in the league for a decade plus. So all your points about GS owning Detroit are null and void to me. That along with an epidemic of traveling, pussy fouls, flopping, jacking up 3's at will, and a litany of other things have ruined the NBA. Its absolutely unwatchable.
Jason Tatum shut down KD with physical Defense. 6'9" Tayshaun Prince would competently defend KD. The X factor was 6'11" Rasheed Wallace, whom is a matchup nightmare for GS.
Bruh u high the celtics loaded up on kd tf is u tlking bout? They tried to turn into a playmaker by sending pressure wit doubles n help u really think tatum lock up kd? Why he aint lock up butler last yr gtfoh prince getting cooked yo ass high
Its not a fucking match up nightmare. That's the dumbest most biased take ever. You do realize once GSW rotate Dray and KD down to 4 and 5 its over for Pistons?
Ben Wallace would be chasing Steph after getting switched into the perimeter the whole game. If he gives the drop coverage, Steph would be shooting on his face just like what he did to the Celtics' drop during the 22 finals that forced them to play him up high in Games 5 and 6. Ben was amazing against teams with dominant centers who do a lot of ISO postups. But if a multiple DPOY like Gobert gets cooked in the perimeter and unplayable in certain scenarios, Ben would be much worse. This Warriors' team is already elite defensively having 4 elite defenders and an above average defender in Steph. The thing with this Warriors team is that they are elite offensively in two ways -- either via perpetual motion that forces you to predict and chase them down resulting into easy cuts to the basket or a wide open shot, or they can break you down with ISOs having two of the most deadly ISO players in the history of the game. The team would force Billups being switched to KD in the paint for an easy post up or any of the Wallace to get switched to Steph in the perimeter.
I know Evan isn't talking like Kawhi and Harden are in any way reliable. Also, he's been to all least 3 conference finals (without Kawhi and Harden). In pretty sure that counts as "sniffing" the Finals.
The reason they only score 85-90 is because of the rules and style of they open it up that team could run that’s how they beat LA Shaq couldn’t keep up and Kobe wanted to win MVP but Shaq didn’t want him to win Also Shaq was not in his prime anymore that was 5 years after they won their first won
They don’t have enough shooting to run with the 2017 dubs. If they play fast they would lose by 50 every game instead of the 35 the 2017 dubs would wash them by.
@@cyberft wasn’t saying they would win just adding perspective 2017 warriors to crazy but they bench wasn’t as deep as in the past years warriors and if Det Switch on everything they would be very Effective. lol they would not lose by 50 or 35 lol i you should know playing fast leads to both teams getting easy buckets
@@OrondeBranch Shaq wasn’t cooking and has said so himself I watch that series live he was guarded 1 V 1 and couldn’t get back on defense and he was horrible against the pick and roll literally wouldn’t leave the paint he simply was declining
@@Tonyoung55 the 2017 Warriors had a crazy deep bench. It was the 2019 Warriors that were lacking at that point. 2017 Warriors had an effective David west, and Shaun Livingston, Matt Barnes, iggy, looney, McGee. That team was absurd.
@OrondeBranch 🎯 people will say anything to try to validate a false narrative ( Jordan & Lebron , and Caitlin & Curry are examples of false narratives & media hype)
@@OrondeBranchif losing one player in Ben Wallace, who doesn’t even score, will make you lose to Lebron and that weak cavs team then your team ain’t that good to begin with. How you give up like 21 straight points to Lebron?
@@ballerz411 it was Ben (arguably one of the best Defensive players ever), our bench was different (no Lyndsey Hunter, Mike James, Memo, or Corliss ), and no Larry Brown. It was a different team. Ben and LB were the main pieces that were no longer there though. Ben being in the middle changes everything. How can you not understand that??
I dont see the Celtics having enough desire. They always look like someone just told them they have to win or their mothers lives are on the line... Mama is dead!
this was childish and no thought put into it. not everyone has their mother, asshole. not having enough desire but been to conference finals 5/7 times. whats ur desire then 😂😂 u ppl on internet say sht jus bc its free and no consequences
U making excuse kuz we jus seen him vs the wolves cooking u cnt yhen say if hes healthy after a week of rest n playing good thts some bs @@davidpeters3857
he's a walking double-double in his prime in Minnesota, has the record for 50+ games consecutive double-doubles in a season that just recently broke by Domantas Sabonis. Y'all still wondering why he was with LeBron & Kyrie in Cavs? 😂
@@cribbblesbrother… Kevin love has 5 allstar selections and 2 Second team all nba selections people with better resumes have been denied. HE ISNT A HALL OF FAMER!
underrated pod
I’m gonna have to start time stamping this pod
Sheed reaction 14:09
Ben Wallace was on the Bulls when Lebron beat the Pistons.
Correct.
Young lebron also took them to 7 in 06 not a stretch to say he would have best em in 07
Id say he could've but a lot less likely especially when they were playing with a Webber with no legs at that point in his career. I think Pistons would've won if Ben was still in.@@MercedesBoyzz
Was waiting on this to drop! Locked in!
Evan Turner sounds like lil yachty
I hate when old players get asked these questions because wtf else are they supposed to say….smfh…..
Pistons won thanks to Kobe. The 4 games where they beat the Lakers- Kobe shot 10 for 27(Game1), 4 for 13(Game3), 8 for 25(Game4) and 7 for 21(Game5) for an out of this world 33%. Which is also why they only won 1 championship. It was a fluke championship.
Breh, thats called defense.
@@Cakebatteredthe warriors just have to many options they will destroy them, kd and steph can not be gusrded one on one you will have to double team one.
It was a fixed championship, but the warriors championship were rigged too.
Great show
The pistons of that era were super tough but objectively couldn’t hang offensively. And respectfully, it’s not close.
The warriors would of had them sucking down oxygen by the second quarter lol.
Their defense was arguably the best ever seen that year the way they were shutting down teams
The Pistons only one won because the NBA didn't want their style of play to be the norm... and they hated Sheed...Andre you know physically they would have worn y'all out...Curry couldn't/ still can't play defense... Andre keep it real, you know damn well why they only won one championship
Andre spent years of getting beat down by the Pistons when he was the star of the Sixers
@@zerotolerance5019andre was never a star bro stop it lol n andre is not some offensive juggernaut so thts pointless gs in 4
Go watch Gils take on this from his personal UA-cam then come back. Warriors on dat ass.
Lmao yo the pistons was my team and there is no chance in hell they beat any steph lead warriors championship team
That’s a lie
"MESSAGE!"
You gentlemen are keeping me interested in these finals for 2 teams that I’m not a fan of.
E T's voice sound like R2D2 from Star Wars
Wrong, he’s lil yachty
Playing under coventional basketball rules the Pistons would smoke the skinny jeans champs.
Warriors would smoke Pistons. KD 1 on 1 would destroy Prince and if they double you got 2 of the best shooters. Warriors can also pick n roll and have Curry dancing with Ben or Rasheed. Draymond and Iggy are great facilitators you have Klay curry Durant moving on different sides who can you guard on the cuts and screens.
Prince would guard someone else. They wouldn't smoke the Pistons the Pistons had arguably the best defense ever seen that year ask Perkins..
@@educational6604 same as the warriors
@@iinarrab19 teams couldn't even score 80 points against the Pistons
Andre is on crack! Golden State was scoring all these points in the softest NBA era ever! You can't play DEFENSE, everything is geared toward offense! Every ticky tack foul is called, traveling never is, theres an epidemic of flopping. If GS played Detroit under mid 2000's rules, they get f'in destroyed!!
You’re literally defeating your own argument. If the pistons could play “defense” as you put it but the warriors weren’t allowed to then your point would make sense. But if the rules are the same for both teams in either era then the warriors would steamroll them. There is no defense that’s ever been allowed in any nba era that would save you from Steph and kd averaging around 30 each when they are both on the same team in their prime. It doesn’t exist man, put down the copium. The pistons would be LOST trying to play this warriors team
@@mookiestewart3776 What are you talking about? The rules today are not the same as they were in the 2000's. Defense still existed back then, today there isn't any. You're either playing with modern day NBA rules or 2000's era. Yes you're right if they played today's game where the rules muzzle Detroits defense the '04 Piston would lose, 20 years ago GS gets destroyed. Think about what you just said, Steph and KD are dropping 30+ in an era with little to no defense. They wouldn't be that affective in an era where you have to play half court offense, creating your own shot against actual physical defenses. They wouldn't have a chance in hell averaging 30 a game.
@@RustyShackleford-od1nd stop with this nonsense.
defense still exists. in fact, it has more advanced schemes as zone defenses are pretty illegal back then. hence, you cant really zone against Shaq. this Warriors team is elite offensively and DEFENSIVELY. They have 4 elite defenders and an above average defender in Curry in his position. Have you seen a 34 year old Steph guarding a Prime Tatum in the 22 Finals? LOL.
Also, as Iggy said, what are they gonna defend if this team averages 80 a game? That's like two quarters for this team.
The thing is that the NBA offense has been so good and elite, teams are now breaking all-time offensive rating records that no matter how good your defenses are, it's gonna be defeated by a better offense. Great offense beats great defense every time.
No defense will hold the perpetual motion GS had in any era. The 04 era will gonna be STOMPED so hard because their defense is molded to battle against ISO players like Shaq and Kobe. This team forces you to switch (did you hear Iggy talking about pulling Duncan in the perimeter and KD getting switched to Tony Parker)? This team is so lethal because they can get easy baskets or force you into switches -- Steph with a slow footed big on the perimeter or KD against a small guard in the block.
@@iinarrab19 Lmao You lost credibility at "defense still exists." Tell me you're a Zoomer without telling me you're a Zoomer. REAL defense hasn't existed in the league for a decade plus. So all your points about GS owning Detroit are null and void to me. That along with an epidemic of traveling, pussy fouls, flopping, jacking up 3's at will, and a litany of other things have ruined the NBA. Its absolutely unwatchable.
Jason Tatum shut down KD with physical Defense. 6'9" Tayshaun Prince would competently defend KD. The X factor was 6'11" Rasheed Wallace, whom is a matchup nightmare for GS.
Bruh u high the celtics loaded up on kd tf is u tlking bout? They tried to turn into a playmaker by sending pressure wit doubles n help u really think tatum lock up kd? Why he aint lock up butler last yr gtfoh prince getting cooked yo ass high
That was an older KD after coming back from Achilles injury. And it was Celtics team that contained KD. Nobody stopping KD 1 on 1
Its not a fucking match up nightmare. That's the dumbest most biased take ever. You do realize once GSW rotate Dray and KD down to 4 and 5 its over for Pistons?
How is Triple Single Draymond a threat on an offensive switch? 🤣🤣🤣
Older kd. Golden state kd top 5 all time
Ben Wallace would be chasing Steph after getting switched into the perimeter the whole game. If he gives the drop coverage, Steph would be shooting on his face just like what he did to the Celtics' drop during the 22 finals that forced them to play him up high in Games 5 and 6.
Ben was amazing against teams with dominant centers who do a lot of ISO postups. But if a multiple DPOY like Gobert gets cooked in the perimeter and unplayable in certain scenarios, Ben would be much worse.
This Warriors' team is already elite defensively having 4 elite defenders and an above average defender in Steph.
The thing with this Warriors team is that they are elite offensively in two ways -- either via perpetual motion that forces you to predict and chase them down resulting into easy cuts to the basket or a wide open shot, or they can break you down with ISOs having two of the most deadly ISO players in the history of the game. The team would force Billups being switched to KD in the paint for an easy post up or any of the Wallace to get switched to Steph in the perimeter.
I know Evan isn't talking like Kawhi and Harden are in any way reliable. Also, he's been to all least 3 conference finals (without Kawhi and Harden). In pretty sure that counts as "sniffing" the Finals.
The name et with the voice is crazy 🤣, my boy need some auto tune or 4 batz affects
Punk ass Zaza has turned Kawhi into a "what if!?!"
lool.... NOTHING EASYYYYY!!!
The reason they only score 85-90 is because of the rules and style of they open it up that team could run that’s how they beat LA Shaq couldn’t keep up and Kobe wanted to win MVP but Shaq didn’t want him to win
Also Shaq was not in his prime anymore that was 5 years after they won their first won
Noooooo Shaq woulda got MVP but Kobe was too busy jackin up shots(he only shot 36%) while Shaq was cookin.
They don’t have enough shooting to run with the 2017 dubs. If they play fast they would lose by 50 every game instead of the 35 the 2017 dubs would wash them by.
@@cyberft wasn’t saying they would win just adding perspective 2017 warriors to crazy but they bench wasn’t as deep as in the past years warriors and if Det Switch on everything they would be very Effective. lol they would not lose by 50 or 35 lol i you should know playing fast leads to both teams getting easy buckets
@@OrondeBranch Shaq wasn’t cooking and has said so himself I watch that series live he was guarded 1 V 1 and couldn’t get back on defense and he was horrible against the pick and roll literally wouldn’t leave the paint he simply was declining
@@Tonyoung55 the 2017 Warriors had a crazy deep bench. It was the 2019 Warriors that were lacking at that point. 2017 Warriors had an effective David west, and Shaun Livingston, Matt Barnes, iggy, looney, McGee. That team was absurd.
In 2004 rules, Pistons in 5. In 2017 rules, Warriors in 5-6
I’m disappointed Andre condoning this “best backcourt in history” none sense. Speak up bro! You played with the best backcourt in history.
you can just hear how much Evan Turner hate GS lol. He hate that he has to tell the truth about how pistons have no chance
andre just compared 04 pistons to the pelicans that’s crazy work😂😂😂
He’s just saying the play style. With the 2 bigs that’s skilled and rondo moving the ball.
@@Dad_Son_twonovas so outta cousins and davis which one was Ben Wallace
Yeah, the Pistons lost to the trash Cavs led by a young Lebron, they're not beating the '17 Warriors in a 7-game series.
The 04 Pistons didn’t lose to the Cavs….the 07 Pistons did. No DPOY(Ben Wallace) and no Larry Brown…..makes a difference.
I second that!
@OrondeBranch 🎯 people will say anything to try to validate a false narrative ( Jordan & Lebron , and Caitlin & Curry are examples of false narratives & media hype)
@@OrondeBranchif losing one player in Ben Wallace, who doesn’t even score, will make you lose to Lebron and that weak cavs team then your team ain’t that good to begin with. How you give up like 21 straight points to Lebron?
@@ballerz411 it was Ben (arguably one of the best Defensive players ever), our bench was different (no Lyndsey Hunter, Mike James, Memo, or Corliss ), and no Larry Brown. It was a different team. Ben and LB were the main pieces that were no longer there though. Ben being in the middle changes everything. How can you not understand that??
Times stamps my brothers
Big ben would average 20 boards
No way warriors could overcome that
Also he'd be surprising yall giarding on the perimeter
Warriors wouldn’t fucking miss for Ben to even get 20 rebounds. Steph / Klay / KD / Iguodala/ Draymond was fucking ridiculous LOL
I dont see the Celtics having enough desire. They always look like someone just told them they have to win or their mothers lives are on the line... Mama is dead!
this was childish and no thought put into it. not everyone has their mother, asshole. not having enough desire but been to conference finals 5/7 times. whats ur desire then 😂😂 u ppl on internet say sht jus bc its free and no consequences
This is not same Boston team from the past
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@@zanegoldsborough7696 I am definitely pulling for the Mavs but I like Boston! I'm a Wizards fan so I have to take wins where I can get them lol
@@zanegoldsborough7696yeah it is cause the coach is weak ime put that dawg in the Celtics if he was still coaching they wouldn’t won a chip for sure
I click on and hear lil yatchy
If Luka’s knee is 💯…Dallas win if not the Celtics
We already making excuses?
@@cyberft How is that making excuses ? American by any chance ?
U making excuse kuz we jus seen him vs the wolves cooking u cnt yhen say if hes healthy after a week of rest n playing good thts some bs @@davidpeters3857
@@davidpeters3857 only way Dallas winning if Kyrie play liked he played in 2016 finals
His knee hasn't stopped them from getting to the finals.
Mavs in 6.
Kevin Love is a Hall of Famer!??
No way. Kevin Love is the most underwhelming so called superstar in NBA history.
he's a walking double-double in his prime in Minnesota, has the record for 50+ games consecutive double-doubles in a season that just recently broke by Domantas Sabonis. Y'all still wondering why he was with LeBron & Kyrie in Cavs? 😂
@@cribbblesbrother… Kevin love has 5 allstar selections and 2 Second team all nba selections people with better resumes have been denied. HE ISNT A HALL OF FAMER!