@ When was Kobe suspended for missing or being late for team functions? Or did Kobe complain about the organization not putting players around him and threatened to leave in free agency? And also how many teams did Kobe play for?
@@PorterStephens and? That don’t make him right. If Chuck wasn’t pushing his buttons all the time this jolly green cantaloupe head wouldn’t even be on tv
You don't know much about statistics. Instead of using the average, use the median (or even other quantiles). The average can be easily skewed by outliers.
Yeah but off that 50 million you pay me, you're making BILLIONS because of ME, not the people running it! I would like a little bigger piece of the pie please....
I dont know what Shaq is talking about. The Heat doesnt owe Jimmy an extention on top of the extention he already has. Human nature has nothing to do with it. Jimmy is under contract. Honor the contract! Btw, Jordan continued to play for the Bulls even though he was not the highest paid player. The Bulls did eventually compensate him. He didnt leave the Bulls because of a contract dispute. He left because the Bulls fired Phil Jackson and Jordan said he wouldn't play for the Bulls if Phil was not the coach
Shaq has G-14 classification on B.S. He did the same thing in LA and yelled at Jerry Buss while he was running up the court “ Pay Me My Money”. Jerry just sat there looking at him. He was traded the next month.
If you watched Shaq in Orlando, LA, and Miami then you'd seen it coming. The only organization that learned from Shaq is LA. They paid Kobe what he was worth after proving himself. Miami, Riley still want to be a dictator.
I would HONESTLY liked to have seen Charles nonchalantly walk behind Shaq and smashed a bottle over his head. But not those fake breakaway bottles Hollywood uses. I mean the type where Shaq shows up next week with stitches in his head and Charles has to offer an APOLOGY for using the wrong bottle 🤣 "Shaq I'm sorry ... I didn't know it was a real bottle"
i think the Miami Heat and the NBA would be alright even if they did pay him out... imagine the worker who's the talent being called greedy while the billionaire owners aren't ...
shaq acting like jimmy is not 35 and gonna retire very soon and he hasn't made 310 million..... hes not a rookie hes just fine to get injured grant hill and penny did they're juuuuust fine..
Shaq saying not really @ 5:15 just shows how much money that he has and how out of touch he is with the reality of the average person because $3 million is life changing to somebody who doesn’t have it. Jimmy Butler is sacrificing it because he wants to play for a new team. It can literally be deemed as a slap in the face to the fans and the average citizen.
I get your point, but they actually work more than 4 to 6 hours. They go to practice which is a few hours, they go to school for learning plays and opposing teams plays for a few hours, they work out in the gym for a few hours. They probably work more than 10 hours a day.
@@Co7Vc3oooh boo hoo! How dare they learn the game better and get paid millions. How dare they pull a little over 40 hours with paid flights and rooms. Stop simping for babies
@@darnellwilliams8783 Nah, Shaq has said in the past that he was late to things all the time because he was a "star." Shaq has always been unprofessional on teams because he's soft.
@@darnellwilliams8783 shaq was getting lazy back then, shaq even told the story that buss wasn't talking to him in the last team dinner. In shaq's mind he was done playing basketball because he already won it. Not trying to defend kobe though, but it was obvious why shaq got traded, and Lakers won two more when they did it
Jimmy is the 8th greatest player in Miami Heat history. Its arguable he should have his jersey retired. 6 seasons at Miami: 3 x All NBA 2 x All Star 2 x Eastern Conference Champion 1 x ECF MVP 1 x Steals Leader Lebron, Wade, Bosh, Mourning, Shaq, Hardaway, Udonis. Those are the only players who are comparable and its arguable Hardaway didn't do as much for the Heat as Jimmy has. The way the Heat are treating Jimmy is embarrassing and unprofessional.
@@ericdee96 what's he not worth though? The market just showed Paul George is worth 4 years 212M. He's one of the greatest players in Heat history and can be a valuable presence for young players during their inevitable rebuild. The dude is exactly Heat culture personified and has over performed his contract. The tens, maybe hundreds, of millions of dollars the Heat made because of their deep playoff runs can majorly be attributed to Jimmy. Ignorance is bliss.
Exactly… you have to honor your contract because that is the contract that you signed. But then oh we can trade, cut, release you and not honor your contract because we are in charge. Lol too funny
He’s gonna lose a lot more than $3 mil if he tanks his own value with his stupid antics. All he’s telling other teams right now is…stay the hell away from trading or signing me in the future.
Jimmy is demanding a guaranteed raise without doing the work worthy of it 2 years before it kicks in and throwing a temper tantrum when the boss said “no”. In the real world, he’d be fired.
Honestly pretty upsetting that people feel so entitled that they don’t work when getting paid 50 million, when the average person works harder for a job they don’t like for a penny if that. I think player empowerment has gone too far in the NBA to the point they forget it’s a job.
I agree and the problem is players have been getting away with this for the last decade in particular. Look at Kevin Durant. He moaned and cried his way out of multiple circumstances. Just making demands and getting trades. Pat Riley being old-school is at least taking a stand on this one.
When regular people at regular jobs get disrespected they start searching for another job. Only difference is that ain’t nobody watching us at our jobs and narrating it going down. Most of the things ain’t about money cause they gonna make money any way just like how you gonna get paid ur salary anywhere you go! An average person just doesn’t have that TALENT. Thats why we don’t compare athletes to us regular people
Shaq has lost touch with not having a lot of money. Acting like we should cry for Butler because he's making 50 million a year to play a game I play hard for free is crazy work. Edit: don't get me wrong, I like Shaq, but he needs to understand the more grateful side of life.
If im Pat im being petty as hell,You wanna waste my time ima waste yours,Even if i have a package lined up im not saying yes tomm,Im waiting the full deadline
Shout to Jimmy butler. Reminding us hard-working fans why the NBA is becoming more of a reality show. Dude is mad in Miami, Chicago and Minnesota; i see why Philly didn't sign him. Gimme a break
Shaq is an absolute airhead. Basketball players are afforded a priveledge to get paid millions of dollars to play a game. You might not like the contract that you signed but YOU signed it and are expected to live up to it on and off the court. That means show up on time to the plane and practice. Negotiations can still be had but that shouldn't affect your commitment to the contract YOU signed and the players you are sweating with and the players that are depending on you.
@@CoolF-jd7rr Here we go again. It's a privileged that society rewards athletic prowess with million dollar contracts guaranteed. There are TONS of potential NBA players who weren't in the right place, didn't get seen by the right recruit, didn't have the right high school or AAU coach. Not to mention home life growing up that could have derailed the entire dream. Please think the damn concept through before you disagree.
@ It's not a privilege at all. Especially when it comes to so-called black players since they make the majority of the league. Economy teaches us that the higher the demand for something, the higher its price. Plain and simple. We can string a bevy of excuses for anything to try to substantiate why a given person did not make it into the league. In order to be an NBA player, you fundamentally need two things: mental wherewithal and physical prowess. If you have those two, you will find a way to get noticed. Just that simple.
@popgfk9989 He never held a normal 9-5 in his entire life. Imagine missing work then telling your boss its human nature. You'll be hauled off immediately. Butler can say whatever he likes but at least show up to practice on time, thats a bare necessity. He's acting like a minimum wage worker being asked to work 12 hours for 6 days a week.
See the difference here is their show is irreplaceable. Jimmy Butler is not. Pat Riley will find another superstar to lead their franchise and not act like a child pouting. Bottom line.
Not giving him an extension doesn't mean they're disrespecting him. He's still owed 50 mil next year and then he becomes a free agent after that. Meaning, depending on how he plays this year or next year he can still get that extension. Jimmy's being unprofessional.
@RavFreeworldEnt as he should. Because he's still under contract.🤷 He has a player option for next season so he can act out then, but not this season. It's really not that complicated.
@RavFreeworldEnt what the f does your question even mean? context matters. If you get harassed by your boss, you can take legal actions against your boss. But if your boss just tells you to do your job, what the hell is wrong with that? That's not harassment. In this case, what did Pat do to him? Nothing. He wasn't given an extension. That's it. If you have a contractual job, see it through. It's not that complicated.
Shaq has always been unprofessional that's why Kobe didn't like him. Of course Shaq is going to side with someone mirroring unprofessionalism like Jimmy.
Shaq is so wrong on this lol. You signed a contract, you should show up. Its not even a bad contract at that, he's getting paid $50 million for 3 years that he signed in 2023. You can't be mad when you're an aging superstar at 35 not getting a contract extension and being detrimental to the team.
Shaq’s argument is entirely revolving around enabling greed. Shaq thinks if a player is a max contract player, that warrants a maximum contract even AFTER they are done putting up all star/all nba numbers. If a dude is 35 and not leading a team to titles, I am not giving him $60 million just because of his legacy. And Shaq is talking about years 3-4-5 in a contract for a THIRTY FIVE YEAR OLD PLAYER. Shaq 1000% paid off his college professors to get his doctorates. Bro is always presenting the stupidest arguments when they actually debate on this show.
I'm honestly surprised players don't play out the contract as hard as they can even if they want out. It would show other teams that hey I may not want to be here eventually but I'll still try my hardest to finish what I did promise prior. They need to put in the contracts that if players hold out they lose the money from that point on. It is dumb that teams put so much money into players just to handicap the rest of the team when said players decide to sit and quit.
Shaq says the biggest lesson here is human nature, “if you don’t want me I don’t want you”. Oh how entitled you gotta be. Welcome to the real world Shaq and Jimmy, no matter how good you are at your profession you can easily be replaced.
Real world says people don’t have to work if they don’t want to. Especially when they just made 50 million dollars. Hahaha The point is, allot of guys won’t play with enthusiasm if they don’t feel like they are wanted around. That’s the difference between a work obligation, and being enthusiastic about your work. Once guys have money. They’re not going to work like they are desperate and hungry. They are going to need a different kind of motivation or drive then money. Similar to how a guy might play after winning everything. They get bored with the game. Some even leave.
@@Noumenon4Idolatry you don’t get it Jimmy’s under contract he’s required to play. Doesn’t matter if it’s for a $1 or a billion. He’s literally on the team to play and do his job otherwise he wouldn’t be on the team to begin with. Just cause Jimmy made $50 million he doesn’t have right to sit out and demand more money. The name on the front of the shirt is more important than the back. He signed the contract and the heat shouldn’t give in to his ultimatum. Cause again doesn’t matter how good of a player he is, everyone is replaceable.
@ So why doesn’t the heat just get their money back? Take Jimmy to court. We can talk about contracts all day, but if you want the best out of your players, this usually isn’t the best way to get it. Jimmy is too old to be talked to like a little kid with 5$ in his pocket. Replace him then. 😄 Imagine paying someone that much money when they are easily replaced. Isn’t that the stupidest thing anyone can do?
If you look at his background, he had a very hard way up. A terrible personal situation he had to struggle through as a youngster. But money and fame changes everything I guess. Instead of being thrilled to death he’s in the league making this money he’s whined and cried out of multiple circumstances during his career.
@@Sharpshooter8388 timberwolves Jimmy beat the starters with third stringers. I’m actually pretty sure he’d be fine with a 9 to 5 but if you’re gonna put in the amount of effort training and time to be in the NBA, you should get paid to do so, pretty stupid take.
@@Dreewisme98Dude is making 50 million, what are you talking about? How you gon sign a CONTRACT then complain that you want more money or you not gon play
@ bro has been playing when they’re putting him in. He hasn’t been not playing. They keep suspending him left and right every time he’s been the rotation. He has stepped on the floor and put points up. And he is not going to play is the correct pronunciation. Not gon to play is not proper English.
@@Dreewisme98 You have no idea what you are talking about. He averaged 13 points a game the 3 games he came back after suspension. And they only suspended him ONCE before this one. Quit tea-bagging Jimmy.
I think it's because cities that never get snow aren't prepared for it...Cities who get snow have 100s of plow and salt trucks to prevent it getting bad...a city like NO literally gotta wait till it melts
We haven't had snow in New Orleans in 15 years if you not from New Orleans u not going understand the weather but to clear things up yes it does snow in New Orleans
First time in 15years that it sticks and delays have something to do with flying not driving they was late leaving New Orleans cause flights delayed not the roads I live in New Orleans born in raised
Shaq trying to act like he wasn't Jimmy Butler back in the day lol. He did everything in his power to get off the Lakers and made everyone uncomfortable.
NBA has turned these dudes into the biggest Primmadonnas who feel like they don’t have to clock in to work, they can just cry and pout if they don’t get their way, and it’s going to get to a point where the players won’t even try and win a championship.
What I'm learning is it'll never be enough money. 50, 75, hell....a 100 mil. It'll never be enough for these guys. They will always perform whatever mental gymnastics they can think of to justify quite literally quitting on your team AKA QUITTING ON YOUR JOB. These men are not to be idolized or pillared.
I’d say he reverted back to his situation with Miami and the same Pat Riley. They have been known to have a rocky relationship and Shaq went thru the same situation when asking for an extension past his prime.
@@Dreewisme98 OH wow we are giving out participation awards now? Against a young Boston Celtics team and another fluke run benefitting from injured teams? Lmao please. You casuals kill me. Theres a reason this heat team has been garbage since. FLUKE.
-- Butler is a great player, Top 25-ish. But at 35yo, he's on the decline. I mean, he could be worth $40-45M/year on the extension but $55M for a guy who avg 60 games/year AND may not be available in the playoffs? 1-2-3-Cancun!
Shaq just explained the difference between him and Kobe.
.....and Michael
exactly! Shaq for being dominant and as he is, is such a big baby! that's why Kobe had enough of him and don't want nothing to do with him!
That's what He did with the Lakers
He just wanted to take the opposite side and it backfired terribly
Not a good look
Shaq summing up his whole career ... impressed with Kenny for finally pushing back hard and using a great example with Jordan
Then shaq says "yeah and he left and went to the wizards". That was probably the dumbest comment of the clip lol.
Jordan also donated his entire first year salary to the victims of 9.11, so his comeback wasn't about money.
@@TravisRay-u5h Exactly....his Comeback was about Competition only. Plain and simple.
Same, I was surprised. The most sense I’ve ever seen Kenny make.
Wemby analogy as well....shaq wrong all the way around
Shaq exposing the problem kobe had with him
Bingo
For sure
Kobe end up becoming Shaq years later and was ready to go to the bulls
Daaaaaamn😂
Gotemmmmm ♨️
Bottom line you sign a contract you honor it 💯
No 🤷♂️
@@realspitter2727 Well someone hasn't touched grass lmao
Bingo
Well players get cut all the time. So then it should go both ways. Teams don't honor it either.
Shaq TOTALLY missing the point. He's defending GREED.
"All I've done for you" crap after you sign the contract. GTFOH. Barkley is 1000% right.
Barkley is always 1000% right when he argues with Shaq.
Ladies and gentlemen… yall are seeing exactly what Kobe Bryant problem was with Shaquille O’Neal….
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Kobe gave up on his team too.
Exactly. Even though Kobe had had enough eventually too. But you're right. Kobe would have never did this.
@@RuntheCompoundwhen lol
@ When was Kobe suspended for missing or being late for team functions? Or did Kobe complain about the organization not putting players around him and threatened to leave in free agency? And also how many teams did Kobe play for?
Shaq just described a 10 year old and calls it "human nature"
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Don’t expect Shaq to understand maturity, dudes been a big kid his entire life.
100% bro. Well said. Absurd take by Shaq
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Shaq has G-14 classification on unprofessional actions
Yeah but he’s the best center ever so it never mattered
Shaq made valid points. People just disregard them.
@@PorterStephens and? That don’t make him right. If Chuck wasn’t pushing his buttons all the time this jolly green cantaloupe head wouldn’t even be on tv
@@PorterStephensshaq? Is that your burner account
@@PorterStephensu mean kareem?
Shaq brain left the fucking Earth.. what kind og reasoning is that..
lol never really had a brain to begin with. He just starts shouting when he is losing an argument
No balls
shaq is right
Dr O'Neal PHD
thats new school reasoning
Entitlement vs Responsibility
Underrated comment right here ^.
What Shaq is saying makes absolutely no sense at all
The scariest part to that is that he thinks he’s right and smart.
That’s just him talking. Imagine what his handwriting or texts are like. 😁
That’s what happens when you have nothing but people hanging around you that kiss your ass constantly because you’re rich and famous.
Shaq is generally a good guy but his logic and pride gets in the way. He's definitely wrong on this one.
I don’t know why he’s there.
The average salary in the US is 43k. Imagine getting paid 50 million and not show up to work. Insanity
That’s the problem when you make that much money is you just think you are better than everybody else. So the rules don’t apply to you.
You don't know much about statistics. Instead of using the average, use the median (or even other quantiles). The average can be easily skewed by outliers.
I'm a cashier and I would be fired in a heartbeat if I missed the kind of days these millionaires do
@@CoolF-jd7rrok the average is around 50k point still stands. Majority of people in this country live pay check to paycheck
Yeah but off that 50 million you pay me, you're making BILLIONS because of ME, not the people running it! I would like a little bigger piece of the pie please....
Shaq had flashbacks dealing with Riley during this conversation 😅
Hahaha Kenny hit that ptsd trigger he was back in that office 😂
Exactly
exactly, he still holds grudge against Riley
Must be it cuz that take is 🤪
Exactly!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I dont know what Shaq is talking about. The Heat doesnt owe Jimmy an extention on top of the extention he already has. Human nature has nothing to do with it. Jimmy is under contract. Honor the contract! Btw, Jordan continued to play for the Bulls even though he was not the highest paid player. The Bulls did eventually compensate him. He didnt leave the Bulls because of a contract dispute. He left because the Bulls fired Phil Jackson and Jordan said he wouldn't play for the Bulls if Phil was not the coach
i get why Shaq sided with Jimmy, but Shaq use soft language in human nature
he cant say that Jimmy get greedy, because it will portray him badly
When Shaq decides to say something stupid there is no convincing him otherwise
Lol
Shaq is so unprofessional. He is preaching this to young stars
Shaq has never been professional
Kobe was right about Shaq.
it’s messed up when ernie disagrees with you and you still arguing
Shaq is a breeze between all these phony talking heads. He calls it how it is.
@ stop it. shaq is being biased because he didn’t get his way with pat riley and the heat. jimmy making 50 mil and acting like a child
Shaq has G-14 classification on B.S. He did the same thing in LA and yelled at Jerry Buss while he was running up the court “ Pay Me My Money”. Jerry just sat there looking at him. He was traded the next month.
He just jaded from basketball. He looks at it as a business not a sport
He O.T.B.S.N 😂
And you're a pro at sounding simple minded.
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U got G-14 Classification on stealing comments 😂
Shaq suddenly turned into Jimmy Butler 😂
If you watched Shaq in Orlando, LA, and Miami then you'd seen it coming. The only organization that learned from Shaq is LA. They paid Kobe what he was worth after proving himself. Miami, Riley still want to be a dictator.
JB’s childish behaviour is another reason why this sport’s viewership is on the decline, and Shaq is giving him a pass. Pathetic
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@@AndyH.-wb5eeButler not significant enough to effect viewership. You sound like a bot
2:15 to get to the topic of the video
Thank you
Thank you!
The NBA needs to get rid of guarantee contracts.
The guarantee is only expected to matter one way
Ernie is a clutch moderator, we're on our third lap around saying the same thing 😂😂😂😂
I would HONESTLY liked to have seen Charles nonchalantly walk behind Shaq and smashed a bottle over his head. But not those fake breakaway bottles Hollywood uses. I mean the type where Shaq shows up next week with stitches in his head and Charles has to offer an APOLOGY for using the wrong bottle 🤣
"Shaq I'm sorry ... I didn't know it was a real bottle"
😂😂😂
Thats just human nature bruh
He knew Shaq was about to start talking about his chips like it makes him right about everything
Shaq is wrong as usual. How can you be under contact and refuse to work because we won't extend the contract.
lol his takes are always off cause he acted the same way Jimmy did
Exactly. And Jimmy has a player option for an extra year for $50 plus million
You missed his point. Its unprofessional but its human nature
The same way you could be under contract and the team bench you so you don’t hit your incentives.
He not wrong these owners weel they gone to extend that's the problem Simmons Zion etc shud have been out the league
Shaq: " what if i tear my knee"
Chuck: " YOU Get 50 million dollars" !!!!!
ENOUGH SAID!!!!!! THIS IS NOTHING BUT GREEDY
He got baby mama issues...she coming for his $
facts
i think the Miami Heat and the NBA would be alright even if they did pay him out... imagine the worker who's the talent being called greedy while the billionaire owners aren't ...
shaq acting like jimmy is not 35 and gonna retire very soon and he hasn't made 310 million..... hes not a rookie hes just fine to get injured grant hill and penny did they're juuuuust fine..
This is why I have tremendous respect for Jalen Brunson for taking that pay cut for the sake of helping the Knicks.
His agent is the father of the president of the team. Let’s not act like he did it for no reason
@@hendrikdalnoot1989 lol so please elaborate on said reason.
Shaq saying not really @ 5:15 just shows how much money that he has and how out of touch he is with the reality of the average person because $3 million is life changing to somebody who doesn’t have it. Jimmy Butler is sacrificing it because he wants to play for a new team. It can literally be deemed as a slap in the face to the fans and the average citizen.
Shaq will look like a fool before he loses an argument 😂
Like his way of saving money on gas...
And still loses the argument and looks like a fool
He Totally lost this argument
I thought he won the argument because he got 4 rings
exactly why I love him bro bigass mf always standin on bizness 😂
Shaq argument is emotionally based . chuck and Kenny are talking logically based. Shaq is a big diva
That's his point. He's saying Butler is being emotional. Basiclly he's calling him a jilted lover.
@@gulaid33 this is the best analogy, jilted lover lol
Bro I'd work 18 hours a day if I was making 50 mil and ur telling me this grown ass man doesn't wanna work for like 4-6hrs 😭
Work??? 🤣🤣🤣Go play ball. Chill with family a few broads, friends etc. Work?? 🤣🤣🤦🏽♂️
I get your point, but they actually work more than 4 to 6 hours. They go to practice which is a few hours, they go to school for learning plays and opposing teams plays for a few hours, they work out in the gym for a few hours. They probably work more than 10 hours a day.
@@Co7Vc3oooh boo hoo!
How dare they learn the game better and get paid millions. How dare they pull a little over 40 hours with paid flights and rooms.
Stop simping for babies
@@rickDArulasounds like you should’ve worked on your jumper instead of hating
Integrity is such a rare quality they don't understand .
Of course Shaq will side with Jimbo. Him and Pat Riley had history and got booted out of Miami
Anddd that’s exactly why Dr Buss and Pat Riley shipped Shaq out 🤦🏻
@heatbranch1823 NAH Buss traded Shaq because Kobe forced them too after he told the media Shaq paid for escorts
@@darnellwilliams8783 Nah, Shaq has said in the past that he was late to things all the time because he was a "star." Shaq has always been unprofessional on teams because he's soft.
@@darnellwilliams8783 shaq was getting lazy back then, shaq even told the story that buss wasn't talking to him in the last team dinner. In shaq's mind he was done playing basketball because he already won it. Not trying to defend kobe though, but it was obvious why shaq got traded, and Lakers won two more when they did it
@jakebrandon7632 nah kobe knew he was robin so he snitched on Shaq
@@exxie1 nah Shaq was still HIm it was Kobe who got locked up by rookie Tayshaun Prince in the 2004 Finals
Shaq: I don’t know what I am talking about, but I will keep talking.
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I'm just surprised Shaq didn't bring up his championships to 'win' the argument.
Why am I not surprised that Shaq is defending Jimmy Butler?
Jimmy is the 8th greatest player in Miami Heat history. Its arguable he should have his jersey retired.
6 seasons at Miami:
3 x All NBA
2 x All Star
2 x Eastern Conference Champion
1 x ECF MVP
1 x Steals Leader
Lebron, Wade, Bosh, Mourning, Shaq, Hardaway, Udonis. Those are the only players who are comparable and its arguable Hardaway didn't do as much for the Heat as Jimmy has.
The way the Heat are treating Jimmy is embarrassing and unprofessional.
If he didn’t, he’d be a hypocrite.
@@aw98000so they should give jimmy butler a max contract even though he’s not worth it? That’s what this is about essentially
SHAQ is still salty about how his days in Miami ended but to be fair, SHAQ has to defend him. If he criticized him, he’d be a hypocrite.
@@ericdee96 what's he not worth though? The market just showed Paul George is worth 4 years 212M. He's one of the greatest players in Heat history and can be a valuable presence for young players during their inevitable rebuild. The dude is exactly Heat culture personified and has over performed his contract. The tens, maybe hundreds, of millions of dollars the Heat made because of their deep playoff runs can majorly be attributed to Jimmy.
Ignorance is bliss.
Teams can trade you but your a bad guy if you want to leave. Teams break contacts all the time
Exactly… you have to honor your contract because that is the contract that you signed. But then oh we can trade, cut, release you and not honor your contract because we are in charge. Lol too funny
Can you imagine not showing up to work until your requested pay raise was given?
Not only would you not have a raise you would have the opportunity of looking for a new job.
@drewbreezy5854 Exactly! And all of my co-workers would hate me.
Instead of being a hater u should’ve worked on your jumper dafuq u comparing our jobs to a NBA player like u could do it
I can't wait to see which team is stupid enough to give $50 mill to a 35 year old, injury prone, prima donna Butler
LA would do it in a heartbeat (if they could)
The sad part is KD(another overrated prima donna) is blackmailing the Suns to throw away money on JB.
The clippers definitely would
PG already ruined it for him 😂
0% chance any other team gives jimmy a similar deal, especially with all these antics
No team
I totally disagree with Shag, if I pay u 50 mill, yo azzz better show up....
Facts 😅😅😅😅😅
The older Shaq gets, the more he loses his damn mind.
that's not human nature, shaq, that's diva nature, which you have
Shaq been an overgrown child.
Diva nature 😅😅😅
Sorry but no "Diva" has ever won 4 NBA championships & is considered 1 of the best players ever in the NBA
He’s gonna lose a lot more than $3 mil if he tanks his own value with his stupid antics. All he’s telling other teams right now is…stay the hell away from trading or signing me in the future.
Exactly, bro is so freaking dumb. He thinks he is so clever playing games but the joke will be on himself
Way more
Shaq using that ‘half gas tank’ logic 😂
How far the moon again?😂
Jimmy is demanding a guaranteed raise without doing the work worthy of it 2 years before it kicks in and throwing a temper tantrum when the boss said “no”. In the real world, he’d be fired.
Should’ve known that Shaq would take Jimmy’s side when Pat Riley is on the other end lol
This debate is why this show's terrific! ESPN and other channels try to FAKE this interaction all the time. These guys are going at it AUTHENTICALLY!
Lol. Sure.
Not really a debate.. Shaq sounding goofy
More like a one sided argument since Kenny has valid points that speaks volumes. Shaq just rambles.
Jimmy thinking he can get back the 3M from his coffee business. Chuck is right. You ain't winning a battle against Pat Riley
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Honestly pretty upsetting that people feel so entitled that they don’t work when getting paid 50 million, when the average person works harder for a job they don’t like for a penny if that. I think player empowerment has gone too far in the NBA to the point they forget it’s a job.
I agree and the problem is players have been getting away with this for the last decade in particular. Look at Kevin Durant. He moaned and cried his way out of multiple circumstances. Just making demands and getting trades. Pat Riley being old-school is at least taking a stand on this one.
@alexcap
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When regular people at regular jobs get disrespected they start searching for another job. Only difference is that ain’t nobody watching us at our jobs and narrating it going down. Most of the things ain’t about money cause they gonna make money any way just like how you gonna get paid ur salary anywhere you go!
An average person just doesn’t have that TALENT. Thats why we don’t compare athletes to us regular people
If you don’t like your job then leave
Illiterate Shaq is at it again. He's out of his depth when it comes to his understanding of human nature.
Shaq be Shaqtin a fool on himself tonight.
It goes 1-2-3 not 1-2 then back to 2 😂
shaq slowly realizing throughout the conversation that he was wrong 😹
Shaq has lost touch with not having a lot of money. Acting like we should cry for Butler because he's making 50 million a year to play a game I play hard for free is crazy work.
Edit: don't get me wrong, I like Shaq, but he needs to understand the more grateful side of life.
lol Shaq been unprofessional is whole career so I see why he agrees with jimmy approach
He’s a big bully who’s used to getting his way
@@jorgemunoz2065 this is why he never reached his full potential
Let Shaq try this with TNT. Different story
Yup. That's why Kobe won without you Shaq.
@@JayCailNo, I did my research and it was Kobe that admitted he did infidelity.
Shaquille Oneal is of the the dumbest people who think they are smart.
A few mistakes that sentence. Bad look when you're critiquing someone's intellect
@@markharrison6498you did the exact same thing lol
Just goes to show that because someone has a Doctor degree it dont make them smart
Oof
You mean Michael Jordan of dummies? 😂
If im Pat im being petty as hell,You wanna waste my time ima waste yours,Even if i have a package lined up im not saying yes tomm,Im waiting the full deadline
Shout to Jimmy butler. Reminding us hard-working fans why the NBA is becoming more of a reality show. Dude is mad in Miami, Chicago and Minnesota; i see why Philly didn't sign him. Gimme a break
Shaq is an absolute airhead. Basketball players are afforded a priveledge to get paid millions of dollars to play a game. You might not like the contract that you signed but YOU signed it and are expected to live up to it on and off the court. That means show up on time to the plane and practice. Negotiations can still be had but that shouldn't affect your commitment to the contract YOU signed and the players you are sweating with and the players that are depending on you.
A privilege ? Nah, the owners are afforded a privilege to have basketball players
@@CoolF-jd7rr Here we go again. It's a privileged that society rewards athletic prowess with million dollar contracts guaranteed. There are TONS of potential NBA players who weren't in the right place, didn't get seen by the right recruit, didn't have the right high school or AAU coach. Not to mention home life growing up that could have derailed the entire dream. Please think the damn concept through before you disagree.
@ It's not a privilege at all. Especially when it comes to so-called black players since they make the majority of the league. Economy teaches us that the higher the demand for something, the higher its price. Plain and simple.
We can string a bevy of excuses for anything to try to substantiate why a given person did not make it into the league. In order to be an NBA player, you fundamentally need two things: mental wherewithal and physical prowess. If you have those two, you will find a way to get noticed. Just that simple.
It’s 100% business……Jimmy is delusional & thinks he’s more valuable than he actually is, Riley is smart enough to not pay a 35 year old 🤷♂️
Shaq never had a real job and it shows. The entitlement is sickening.
What 😂 he played ball
@popgfk9989 He never held a normal 9-5 in his entire life. Imagine missing work then telling your boss its human nature. You'll be hauled off immediately. Butler can say whatever he likes but at least show up to practice on time, thats a bare necessity. He's acting like a minimum wage worker being asked to work 12 hours for 6 days a week.
It’s like TNT not extending thier show next year, so none of them show up to work.
ESPN is picking it up
@ yes I knw… but before then. Opportunity missed by Chuck, because he’s the only one who has the stones to bag on Shaq.
Decent analogy, internet person
@illmade_dave .... Well said, as the kids say, "THAT PART"
See the difference here is their show is irreplaceable. Jimmy Butler is not. Pat Riley will find another superstar to lead their franchise and not act like a child pouting. Bottom line.
As a Heat fan I am very dissapointed in Butler He is slowly becoming an NBA pariah
And we wonder why ratings are down lol
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EXACTLY! just one of the many reasons why the NBA is losing fans!
Exactly one of the reasons. NBA players thinking they are better than the team
Not giving him an extension doesn't mean they're disrespecting him. He's still owed 50 mil next year and then he becomes a free agent after that. Meaning, depending on how he plays this year or next year he can still get that extension. Jimmy's being unprofessional.
Nah disrespecting him is Riley going out there telling him to essentially shut up and dribble
@RavFreeworldEnt as he should. Because he's still under contract.🤷 He has a player option for next season so he can act out then, but not this season. It's really not that complicated.
@ so in your words u getting paid so your boss can say and do anything and you just take that?
@RavFreeworldEnt what the f does your question even mean? context matters. If you get harassed by your boss, you can take legal actions against your boss. But if your boss just tells you to do your job, what the hell is wrong with that? That's not harassment.
In this case, what did Pat do to him? Nothing. He wasn't given an extension. That's it. If you have a contractual job, see it through. It's not that complicated.
@@RavFreeworldEntJimmy runs his mouth too much. Somebody needed to check him and hold him accountable.
Shaq has always been unprofessional that's why Kobe didn't like him. Of course Shaq is going to side with someone mirroring unprofessionalism like Jimmy.
Shaq is always think he is right. He and Stephen A are the same.
Kobe saw what everyone didn't see everyday.
Shaq is so wrong on this lol. You signed a contract, you should show up. Its not even a bad contract at that, he's getting paid $50 million for 3 years that he signed in 2023. You can't be mad when you're an aging superstar at 35 not getting a contract extension and being detrimental to the team.
So Shaq is saying human nature is to pout and it’s ok?
It’s crazy how snotty rich people act.
It's messed up
Shaq’s argument is entirely revolving around enabling greed. Shaq thinks if a player is a max contract player, that warrants a maximum contract even AFTER they are done putting up all star/all nba numbers.
If a dude is 35 and not leading a team to titles, I am not giving him $60 million just because of his legacy.
And Shaq is talking about years 3-4-5 in a contract for a THIRTY FIVE YEAR OLD PLAYER.
Shaq 1000% paid off his college professors to get his doctorates. Bro is always presenting the stupidest arguments when they actually debate on this show.
I'm honestly surprised players don't play out the contract as hard as they can even if they want out. It would show other teams that hey I may not want to be here eventually but I'll still try my hardest to finish what I did promise prior. They need to put in the contracts that if players hold out they lose the money from that point on. It is dumb that teams put so much money into players just to handicap the rest of the team when said players decide to sit and quit.
Are we really surprised Shaq thinks this way, he has massive ego😅
Jimmy led us to two finals appearances
@@ashleybanks-wm4cg And how many titles?
Appearances don't mean anything pal.
He paid university of Phoenix to set up a classroom for him and a group of his buddies. So yea, I can imagine the rigor wasn't exactly up to par.
Shaq waited until the season started , then has foot surgery. Said he didn't want to get surgery on his time. This drove Kobe nuts.
that’s why Phil Jackson is one of the greatest coaches !!
Entitled 101. Period. End of story. Cmon, Shaq.
How the HELL DOES Kenny have a line up AND bald?!!!!! 😂😂😂😂😂
50 million dollars and you don't even want to show up after signing a contract?? You're tripping.
What Kenny said @ 5:32 is a 💎 of a statement because it can be applied to multiple things in life 💪
Shaq says the biggest lesson here is human nature, “if you don’t want me I don’t want you”. Oh how entitled you gotta be. Welcome to the real world Shaq and Jimmy, no matter how good you are at your profession you can easily be replaced.
Because he basically has a child's mentality on most everything.
Right, he also skipped the second part of that which is why would they want him if he doesn't want them?
Real world says people don’t have to work if they don’t want to. Especially when they just made 50 million dollars. Hahaha
The point is, allot of guys won’t play with enthusiasm if they don’t feel like they are wanted around.
That’s the difference between a work obligation, and being enthusiastic about your work.
Once guys have money. They’re not going to work like they are desperate and hungry.
They are going to need a different kind of motivation or drive then money.
Similar to how a guy might play after winning everything. They get bored with the game.
Some even leave.
@@Noumenon4Idolatry you don’t get it Jimmy’s under contract he’s required to play. Doesn’t matter if it’s for a $1 or a billion. He’s literally on the team to play and do his job otherwise he wouldn’t be on the team to begin with. Just cause Jimmy made $50 million he doesn’t have right to sit out and demand more money. The name on the front of the shirt is more important than the back. He signed the contract and the heat shouldn’t give in to his ultimatum. Cause again doesn’t matter how good of a player he is, everyone is replaceable.
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So why doesn’t the heat just get their money back? Take Jimmy to court.
We can talk about contracts all day, but if you want the best out of your players, this usually isn’t the best way to get it. Jimmy is too old to be talked to like a little kid with 5$ in his pocket. Replace him then. 😄
Imagine paying someone that much money when they are easily replaced. Isn’t that the stupidest thing anyone can do?
Wow, Shaq is WAY off base here. Everything he said literally made no sense whatsoever. SMH
I agree with Charles & Kenny you’re under contract period
Jimmy could never survive a 9-5. Hes lucky he was blessed to play basketball for a living
If you look at his background, he had a very hard way up. A terrible personal situation he had to struggle through as a youngster. But money and fame changes everything I guess. Instead of being thrilled to death he’s in the league making this money he’s whined and cried out of multiple circumstances during his career.
@@Sharpshooter8388 timberwolves Jimmy beat the starters with third stringers. I’m actually pretty sure he’d be fine with a 9 to 5 but if you’re gonna put in the amount of effort training and time to be in the NBA, you should get paid to do so, pretty stupid take.
@@Dreewisme98Dude is making 50 million, what are you talking about? How you gon sign a CONTRACT then complain that you want more money or you not gon play
@ bro has been playing when they’re putting him in. He hasn’t been not playing. They keep suspending him left and right every time he’s been the rotation. He has stepped on the floor and put points up. And he is not going to play is the correct pronunciation. Not gon to play is not proper English.
@@Dreewisme98 You have no idea what you are talking about. He averaged 13 points a game the 3 games he came back after suspension. And they only suspended him ONCE before this one. Quit tea-bagging Jimmy.
Didnt know it snowed that much in New Orleans
I think it's because cities that never get snow aren't prepared for it...Cities who get snow have 100s of plow and salt trucks to prevent it getting bad...a city like NO literally gotta wait till it melts
Somebody cursed New Orleans man 😂
Houston, New Orleans, parts of Florida 😅
We haven't had snow in New Orleans in 15 years if you not from New Orleans u not going understand the weather but to clear things up yes it does snow in New Orleans
First time in 15years that it sticks and delays have something to do with flying not driving they was late leaving New Orleans cause flights delayed not the roads I live in New Orleans born in raised
Shaq should be ashamed of himself, that idiot is making 50M and he doesn't show up to play. Disgusting.
Shaq sound like a fool that’s why Kobe didn’t like dealing with him he’s always right.
No wonder Shaq and Kobe parted ways because of that extension. Shaq becomes greedy and selfish.
about time someone stood up to the players
Shaq's take on this one is just like his free throws.
Shaq was so unbelievably wrong on this one. Its kinda offensive to the average joe what jimmys doing.
Jimmy is supposed to be an average Joe?
Then why give him 50 million dollars? If you give an average Joe 50 million dollars, he’s no average Joe.
What Shaq is saying is exactly why the NBA is failing in viewership.
And shaq hates modern nba im surprised he had this take smh terrible
I wonder if Shaq does his business contracts the same way
That University of Phoenix degree…
It’s not about money 🤦🏾♂️ Jimmy don’t give af he don’t wanna play for pat Riley 🤷🏾♂️
Im from New Orleans and this our first snow in 15years and snowball fight on bourbon st was awesome
lol I grew up in NY but lived in Memphis a long time. Watching southerners enjoying the snow is a nice little delight.
After what happended at the beginning of the year, snow in the 504 was much needed.
Shaq trying to act like he wasn't Jimmy Butler back in the day lol. He did everything in his power to get off the Lakers and made everyone uncomfortable.
NBA has turned these dudes into the biggest Primmadonnas who feel like they don’t have to clock in to work, they can just cry and pout if they don’t get their way, and it’s going to get to a point where the players won’t even try and win a championship.
lol that’s why a lot them will never win anything
Yep and I’m sure you’ve never missed a day of work ever.
I agree with everything, but it's Prima Donna.
All these athletes
@@marvymarv959 aint no way u defending a multi millionaire
Chuck and Kenny are right
What I'm learning is it'll never be enough money. 50, 75, hell....a 100 mil. It'll never be enough for these guys. They will always perform whatever mental gymnastics they can think of to justify quite literally quitting on your team AKA QUITTING ON YOUR JOB.
These men are not to be idolized or pillared.
You signed a contract. You're getting paid to do a job. Just because you're rich, famous and talented doesn't mean you can't be a lame.
Shaq reverted back to his situation with the Magic to think like this
I thought same, but they did try to lowball him, they had a top 10 all time player in his youth, Magic played themselves
I’d say he reverted back to his situation with Miami and the same Pat Riley. They have been known to have a rocky relationship and Shaq went thru the same situation when asking for an extension past his prime.
This is what happens when the NBA gave more power to the players. No one in the NBA is more important than the logo
Shaq is so unprofessional and classless for this stance, he should be ashamed of himself.
Shaq is 100% wrong.
Jimmy is a clown. trade him away
To the Suns
Lol who brought them to the finals against Boston? Who’s a clown?
They aren’t going anywhere with or without Jimmy Butler. And why the hell would the Phoenix Suns give him a massive contract extension?
@@Dreewisme98 OH wow we are giving out participation awards now? Against a young Boston Celtics team and another fluke run benefitting from injured teams? Lmao please. You casuals kill me. Theres a reason this heat team has been garbage since. FLUKE.
-- Butler is a great player, Top 25-ish. But at 35yo, he's on the decline. I mean, he could be worth $40-45M/year on the extension but $55M for a guy who avg 60 games/year AND may not be available in the playoffs?
1-2-3-Cancun!
All about the money nowadays. Embiid got an extension and is on the verge of possibly being shut down. The game just isn’t what it used to be
So true
Of course Shaq sees no problem with it 😂🤡
Extremely disappointed with Shaq on this take
I got a headache listening to Shaq talk.. I see what Kobe problem was with him.
These players need to play when they have a contract, if not they need to get released/fired from that contract .