One thing I really respect about Dreamworks is that they try different stuff all the time, and are not bound to one demographic. Some of their movies are obviously more inclined to children, like Trolls and Boss Baby, and some push for a more adult feel, like their older 2D works. Most of the time though, they manage to cater to everyone, somehow. They are the only studio, I feel, that truly gets what "for the whole family" means. I'm one of the few defenders of DW's less critically acclaimed movies like the Trolls franchise, because if those movies give Dreamworks enough money to make more masterpieces, then I'm fine with them existing. I'm not going to watch _every_ single thing they do, but I'm glad they have such a wide arrange.
I agree. Dreamworks tries all sorts of different things while Disney normally sticks to one. Unless they try the new animation style sweeping theaters and just stick with making characters look as real as possible or live-action, then they will not get the money they think they will get from animation-hungry adults like me
All I see here is a big honkin' W. Trolls may be a silly kid's series, but it's still perfectly harmless. As long as there isn't anything insulting or questionable in it, I don't mind it existing one bit.
YES. When they create a mediocre or average movie, it usually takes people a little longer to remember that it is a part of their library. But when they create a banger, it DEMOLISHES the competition. I would much rather watch How To Train Your Dragon, Shrek, or Kung Fu Panda over most of what Pixar has to offer. Aside from The Incredibles, then it would have to depend on how I'm feeling that day.
@@shdox_ The Incredibles is GOAT, I agree. Hate me for it, but the sequel is very good imo. HTTYD and KFP are very good hits by DW. Shrek kinda regressed after Shrek 2.
Disney has had its slumps before though. If I recall correctly they almost went bankrupt during World War Two when their primary output was Allied propaganda and they needed Cinderella to save them in 1950. And after Walt died in 1966, the company hit a slump leading to Don Bluth going into business with Steven Spielberg and driving the Walt Disney company to the verge of bankruptcy to the point where The Little Mermaid had to save the company from financial ruin. And after The Emperor’s New Groove somehow flopped it took almost a decade for Disney Animation to recover. It’s by no means clear that this is the death of Disney as a big shot animation studio
Here’s a add on to this Dreamworks: And I don't mean it metaphorically or rhetorically or poetically or theoretically or any other fancy way. I'm remarkable. Straight. Up."
I know that Dreamworks is often infamous for making masterpieces or utter memable garbage, but I honestly think the balance is a testament to their ingenuity. Pixar or Disney would never touch a concept like Turbo with a ten foot pole, but it’s such a bizarre idea that it works for me. They are so determined to stick to the status quo that they never branch out and try something potentially divisive. Their newer movies are so stale and boring as a result. Trolls 3, for all it’s garbage, will unironically be more creative than all the live action sludge fests Disney craps out these days. I may not personally enjoy it, but I appreciate how Dreamworks doesn’t hold back. I would argue that Dreamworks’ highs are higher than Disney’s by a landslide.
@@Paul_Recall that’s a good point. Ratatouille is obviously the better movie by a landslide, but that was back when Pixar actually gave a damn instead of these annoying “realistic” movies. I miss when they could tackle larger than life issues while also being fun and creative.
I always felt that Disney's in house animation was pretty overrated. Pixar carried Disney for a while and still produce a lot of their best films which is why it sucks they're being forced to make unnecessary sequels to balance Disney's pocketbook. Everything across the board is down in quality.
Pixar was used to keep the Disney+ subscriptions, which angered alot of the Pixar workers who thought they would be working on more theater releases only to have their projects put on the "cheaper" platform. I also think that some awards require a film to be shown in a theater to qualify for the awards.
Disney: *Sticks to same formula, puts out mid to mediocre modern movies* Dreamworks: *Tries different ideas, puts out modern day masterpieces like Puss in Boots 2* It isn’t hard to see how one is thriving whilst the other suffers.
@@jonathanwade3882 oh it makes sense All right. But the main problem with Disney is how woke they are nowadays. Whether it’s changing stories and their messages or they pump out shitty remakes like mulan. The way I describe Disney is a soulless cash grab company. They still have some good movies but it’s still in the same safe formula. And he’ll at least the bad dreamworks movies are popular for their memes
I have a feeling that dreamwork decided to make utterly complete garbage(Shrek 3, shark tale, bee movie, boss baby and trolls) or absolute masterpiece (Shrek, Shrek 2, puss in boots the last wish, Httyd trilogy, Kungfu panda trilogy, road to el dorado, megamind and Prince of Egypt) up to their producer's mood at the time.
Oh come on, why is Boss Baby so hated? I lauged a lot watching this one and I still can't believe how they came up with such an absurd idea to answer the question 'where do babies come from'
1 thing i noticed on Dreamworks is that in nearly every movie they are trying to experiment different demographics in films. Like Teenage Kraken is the next film and many may not be into it. But if it ends up being a better movie than Elemental (Both coming in June 2 weeks apart from each other) then it looks like the experiments a success.
Also I think people are focusing too much on who makes what, if Dreamworks makes great movie that's great people should watch it. If Disney makes great movie that's also great and people should go watch it. Don't focus on a company but on the movie itself, if movie is shit and nobody is watching it then it's sign to company they're doing something wrong. But if movie is great and nobody is watching it then company thinks they're doing something wrong. Money speaks, so speak to company what you want to watch
@@realdragon Nah. I always liked Disney until 4 years ago. I just think they need to learn some discipline now cause they are doing things that i can't agree with.
@@superstarbros1.0superstarb38they stopped trying when they saw the first Despicable Me do well, all they care about is merch, just another money hungry studio
I admit, the whole ‘Dreamworks is better than Disney’ think is getting ahead of itself. But that Puss in Boots sequel and the Super Mario Bros movie should be a huge wake up call for Disney.
Is it really, though? I genuinely can’t think of a single Disney film that matches Prince of Egypt in terms of telling a consistently mature, powerful story. And there isn’t a *single* animated Disney sequel that is of the same caliber as Dreamworks sequels (KFP2, The Last Wish, Shrek 2, HTTYD 2, etc.) What would you even consider to be Disney’s magnum opus? Lion King, which came out over two decades ago? Last Wish is proof that Dreamworks can STILL make quality animated films whenever they put effort to it. Nowadays, all Disney movies fall under the same bland sludge…or crappy remake…or Encanto
They saying DreamWorks is better than Disney when DreamWorks hasn't won an Oscar for the last 17 years. Why not talk about the studio that made Pinocchio?
@@darkmoney7762 I would say Oscars aren't really telling animation wise. When i sometimes watch oscars i feel like they don't care about this category and i t could be discussed whether they have Disney/Pixar bias.
@@Agaricus_cuscus you mean with the toy story 4? I mean aside from that and Brave, none of the rest are actually questionable on why they won the Oscar. Whether you like it or not, that's the award every animation aims to achieve. Now I repeat, why is no one talking about the studio that made Pinocchio which was an Oscar winner?
I think what induced this whole "studio wars" you say is how Disney started purchasing literally everything recently. Lucasfilm, Marvel, Pixar, Bluesky, 20th Century Fox... when one company grows this big, people kind of start worrying about independent/different view moviemaking and start rooting for the "underdog". I'll always be more critical towards Disney movies, knowing well they have close to infinite amount of resources and should make perfect movies all across the board instead of scuffing their jobs in confidence of remaining in top whatever happens. A good example is how both Turning Red (which was a decent movie btw in my opinion) and Strange World (which was kind of mid ngl) had double the budget of Puss in Boots, yet DreamWorks managed to make something much more unique and memorable with a significant disadvantage. Why? Cause they simply need to put effort into their works. They can't settle for mediocrity the same was Disney does with its lazy remakes. That's why competition is extremely important in the industry, it encourages studios to be more unique and experimental in hopes of catching more attention.
They're not an "underdog". Do you even know who owns DreamWorks and Illumination? It's Comcast, the telecom giant that has nothing to do with animation. Comcast tried a hostile attempt to buy Disney years ago, but they failed and ended up buying Universal, and therefore, DreamWorks and Illumination. Comcast market cap is higher than Disney's, and corporate America does not care about animation, storytelling, or originality. Disney has been in animation for 100 years, and there have always been ups and downs. The people who started DreamWorks are long gone because they sold it. The only thing the high up executives noticed is that Mario, the movie based on an old IP and using a Pixar/Disney look made more money than any original story/original looking animation in a few years.
Frozen II has a scene where Olaf recaps the entire first Frozen movie instead of actually doing something new. Puss In Boots: The Last Wish doesn't even mention the name Humpty Dumpty (Puss's adoptive brother from the first Puss In Boots movie) a single time throughout the entire movie.
Although the film doesn’t mention Humpty, I could imagine a flashback taking place with young Puss’s and Humpty’s interactions with young Goldilocks if the evidence that she grew up in the same orphanage as them is true considering the book she has has Humpty’s and Jack and Jill’s names in the check out list alongside hers.
People keep saying that they can’t understand why Boss Baby is included in the logo and I take it that absolutely none of the people complaining about it have kids. I’ve been a mom for 8 years so naturally, I know lots of other families with little kids and what they like as well. When the second boss baby movie came out, my two daughters could not WAIT to watch it and kept on watching it! I’ve heard of other kids being obsessed with Boss Baby as well! Whether you like it or not, it’s a hit! It’s essentially DreamWorks’ version of Minions mostly in how loud and ridiculous it is. I completely agree that they’ve made much better movies but the numbers and the hype within kids does not lie!!
True. I don't like some Illumination and Dreamworks movies (Not all because some of their movies are decent), but my 5-year-old and 3 three-year-old second cousins love those movies. Are they good? For me, no, not really, but are they racking in the money, yes.
Boss Baby is like the Rugrats of Nickelodeon that why i love the Boss baby franchise so far he funny but i do t mind of they made the movie, the acstion and comedy quit funny. But that my option
Out of all the sequels Disney has announced, I personally think that Zootopia is the only sequel that holds a lot of promise and probably hope in once again doing sequels right. Zootopia has a massive world they can expand upon and if done right, they can make it wonderful.
@@superstarbros1.0superstarb38pretty sure the first movie is "woke" to begin with. Does not mean it's bad. Avatar tlab is woke too. The greatest Miyazakis are woke af too.
Being realistic here, they both have their pros and cons like every other company does. It's not like everyone is perfect far from it, but if it wasn't for Disney firing Jeffery Katzenberg, we wouldn't have got DreamWorks much like Nintendo did with Sony. Now a days, Disney is too afraid to take chances and focuses on the wrong audience for the past several years with Walt Disney Animation to Pixar to even Marvel and Star Wars. DreamWorks, whether you like their films or not, is a little more creative and experimental and takes chances. Whether they succeed or not and whether we like it or not, it's going to make some impact to the company (Looking at you Boss Baby, you don't deserve better and a third sequel). My point here is, my respects leans towards more to DreamWorks because they tend to be a little more creative and experimental and treat the audiences with some respect. The same cannot be said for Disney, at least not anymore since 2016-2017 to me, as they've been becoming more hateful to it's main audience and it's obnoxious push for political agendas and identity politics each passing year.
This is so true. Disney is too scared to try anything new and they don't want to scare the parents away from their new movies. Both have pros and cons, box office bombs, and underrated movies, but as you said, Dreamworks takes risks with their movies and Disney hasn't done that in a long time. Unless Disney is willing to change or take risks, (and stop with the live-action bull, which they won't) then Disney's animated movies won't be a success. (However, if they continue to have movies like Encanto, then I won't complain)
Can I ask, how Disney "becoming more hateful to it's main audience and it's obnoxious push for political agendas and identity politics each passing year"? I saw main Pixar and DA movies from last years, but Ididnt see something similar. Yes, they reflexed, that minorities exist (becouse, uh, they exist), but Sony or DreamWorks do it too.
Ironically in 2016, Zootopia came out and is a rare case of Disney having their cake and eat it too for animated films with politics but they treated it CAREFULLY. Now the sequel post 2016 is one I fear for
Ugh, not this again! Stop whining about supposed "hateful" behavior and "messaging" from Disney. Its not only nonsence, its hypocritical as well since many of Disneys movies are met with truly "hateful" criticism from rightwing spindoctors.
For that last statement, 1. A lot of the Disney hatedom supports a political agenda themselves 2. So, representation of LGBTQ+ people is automatically pushing for left-wing politics on its own? In that context the same can be said for representation of Blacks, Asians, Arabs, South Asians, First Nations, Jews, powerful women, disabled people, and neurodiverse people! Unless you are a homophobe and that’s where the prejudice ends………………….
Sir DreamWorks is amazing....wtf has illumination done expect for pandering am not saying ips can't be good like spider verse, but Mario is mid not creative and minions and despicable me is where creativity goes and dies.......am so done PPL calling illumination and putting it in a higher pedestal.....no one cares abt Ghibli or most non western animation which make flawless films
@@viswajithsaravanan4419 As much as I love the Mario Movie, I agree that it's very fan-pandering and not the greatest if you're not a huge nintendo boy. But it's still a step in the right direction for them, and I had tons more objective/non-biased fun with it then Strange World and Lightyear. Even Sing 2 I thought was better then them. And with Studio Ghibli, I think the problem is lack of advertising in the west, I haven't even seen a single film from them on DVD shelves or even advertised in theaters or even the movies themselves in theaters. They were pretty much shafted with streaming services until recently with HBO Max and Netflix. Plus, you're looking at the general public and not the main animation community, Ghibli is treated like the second coming of christ among unprofessional and even professional reviewers.
@@viswajithsaravanan4419 The Mario movie was at least decent because Nintendo knew to keep a close eye on them. Even if it's painfully average, you must admit the movie is pretty faithful.
Fun fact: during the production of The Prince of Egypt, it was considered to be the best project to work on if you worked at Dreamworks at the time. If you failed to keep up or impress, you’d be sent off to the dungeon to work on Shrek. And not even kidding, they called this getting “Shrek’t”
Everyone's saying the same arguments, but I guess to sum up, Dreamworks feels like the better company right now because the drastic difference between having both amazing and horrible films shows they are at least always trying to be creative. Disney with their remakes and "safe films" on the other hand, in an attempt to cater to the most general of audiences, cater to literally no one, and feel boring and samey.
@@superstarbros1.0superstarb38Sony is doing really well. Most of their catalogue is really terrible, but recent movies have been excellent and groundbreaking. Hopefully that is the direction they will continue on going forward.
Your being unfair in comparing the Disney Company to Dreamwork’s both Disney and Dreamwork’s are hit or miss nowadays and Disney’s hits like Encanto are amazing And some of the bad stuff Dreamwork’s does (like Trolls) isn’t that experimental. It’s more made for money
not relevant to the discussion but... Honestly, Atlantis had the only good "twist villain" Disney ever made. The reveal was foreshadowed properly, where a second viewing or good observation skills are actually rewarded. Maybe Wreck It Ralph too. Unlike the other examples, where the " reveal" is either completely out of nowhere and then acts like it was being clever (case in point Frozen and Zootopia).
"Unlike the other examples, where the " reveal" is either completely out of nowhere and then acts like it was being clever" Sonic & the Black Knight, as well.
@@jadebeor eh, Merlina at least got a line of foreshadowing (she lets slip part of her mindset as a villain right before going to see the blacksmith) which is a lot more than what Hans got, but I agree the one scene is nowhere near enough to be a clever twist villain as it's pretty much relies entirely on that one line to try and convince you that her mindset is what the final act says it is. Roarke from Atlantis gave us plenty of signs that if one misses them, they feel as betrayed as Milo, but if one notices them they see it coming but still feel for Milo, and he did that without even NEEDING to hide his mindset.
I get Turning Red is supposed to be cringey because the main character is a teen who would be into cringe stuff most teens would be interested in at her age, but it doesn’t make the twerking and gyrating scenes any less painful.
Personally I wouldn't consider Aldone's videos as quality. They're okay topics and opinions, but the content (video/ editing specifically) is quite lacking. I do appreciate the consistent flow of content since that will ultimately grow the channel and help him improve his editing and voice over skills.
Meh, I feel like his videos are all some variation on "Why Disney sucks (and Dreamworks is better)". Plus you can find his opinions in a million other (and better) videos.
Listen. I know Avatar is supposed to be that movie where we are like: "Wow, look at this amazing animation and CGI! I'm so immersed into the world!" But, let's be honest. Impressive visuals aren't everything that goes into a good movie and the story and characters are very generic and mid, not very engaging and mostly feel like placeholders that make the movie lose some potential for me.
It's 2023, and every modern action film is full of CGI worlds and characters. Avatar was novel in 2009, but these days everyone sees it for what it really is. Just another sad franchise using spectacle as a selling-point.
@@ordinarylittlebastard3248 totally agree. In fact, it's why I didn't like the video makers comment that Avatar and Puss in Boots shouldn't be compared. It is precisely because Avatar is a movie simply made to be a spectacle rather than a film, that it should be compared to the likes of Puss in Boots. Not in terms of content, but in terms of intentions and execution. Both are sequels, and while one had a much more massive budget and commercial success, failed to tell any story and leave a lasting impact other than how great it looks. While the other sequel had half the budget of its predecessor film, but still managed to inspire and touch on fundamental truths, because it's intent was to better the character arcs... all while also being a damn entertaining film. Obviously, Puss in Boots was still made to make money, but at least it bothered with writing actual characters at the same time. It is clear which sequel is better, and I think these comparisons are good because it should get people thinking: why should movies that are made purely for the visual spectacle be made when other storytellers and artists, who are not as popular, have actual stories they want to tell? It's 2023, and we should stop giving our viewership to productions that are made simply for money and spectacle, and reward the films instead that want to give their audience a memorable story. Sure, Avatar has pushed technology... but there are far better films that have done the same and were still fulfilling to watch because they had a purpose other than visual prowess (ex: Lord of the Rings, Interstellar, etc...).There was no purpose for Avatar 2 being made other than to get yet another $2billlion+ of revenue pumped into Hollywood, and it will just keep going because the only language these people understand is money. Keep in mind people, there are at least 4 planned Avatar sequels. FOUR. If you think these movies are made for the art, think again
@@kurisucosmo7954 agree with you so much, Puss in Boots and Avatar may be completely different, but they’re still movies, the story, characters, themes/messages should be compared (except for the visuals). Saying that Puss in Boots can’t compare with Avatar because the animation(CGI) is very different is kinda disrespectful, and for me personally, I feel like Avatar getting so much credit without a good story like Puss in Boots is kinda unfair, all of my friends go to watch Avatar, I told them Puss in Boots got higher score on Rotten Tomatoes they should also give it a chance, but they said "Maybe it got higher score because only a few people went to watch this film" ,and when I told them I’m going to watch Puss in Boots, they laughed, it made me feel like l should be ashamed… I also think that some people go to watch Avatar only because it’s popular and made for adult unlike animation. But animation isn’t just for kids, Puss in Boots is the perfect example, why don’t my friends give it a chance. A great CGI doesn’t equals a good movie, and just because it looks real doesn’t mean it’s good either, why does some people think that looking realistic means it’s for adult and that makes it mature, maybe the reason why Disney is making those live action films is because people think this way, just look at the live action The Lion King, it’s bad but somehow made a lot of money. That’s why I think Avatar and Puss in Boots should be compared, and people should support films like Puss in Boots which has a lot of heart put in to the film, films like this deserve more.
Anf Avatar was written more for kids and Puss in boots was written more for adults. Just because one is animated, with fairy tale characters, doesn't mean that one is for kids entertainment.
Unless Disney tries the new animation style sweeping the animation industry rn, they have no shot at the box office with their movies. Sure, I love a good Pixar movie or Disney movie with an emotional story, but people also want a movie with fantastic animation with said story. No, animation does not make a story great but it can help.
And Pixar’s animation isn’t fantastic? I understand the critiques of Disney’s animation since almost all of the characters almost have the same face and aesthetic, but Pixar at least has a *variety* when it comes to character designs and animation styles suited for each film.
@@hunterolaughlin Pixar's animation is fantastic. I'm more talking about straight Disney movies. Turning Red, Luca, Soul, all have fantastic animation and good stories. Disney animated movies try to make it as real as possible, which will get tiring after a while
@@henrythef1guy768 Exactly. Animation is an art, it's seen as a genre by many people, including myself. Sticking with one isn't going to work out in the end.
I do agree, Disney just feels a bit stale as of late. They haven’t really tried anything too groundbreaking with movies like Luca, Turning Red, Encanto, etc. Like yea, the stories they write are still good and still emotional but nothing that’s truly outstanding. They all kinda feel like the same movie in a way and they don’t really explore risky and out of the box themes anymore. Disney‘s too big to fail at this point with them buying Star Wars, marvel, and literally everything else but they’ve really lost their creative stride cuz of that
the fact you managed to make a whole video about dreamworks without how to train your dragon being mentioned is both brilliant and a lil sad cus httyd is by far my favourite of theirs!
Thank you! I hate that people in the film and animation community are creating a studio wars (it's console wars, but it's a film equivalent) to push their hate bias towards a movie they don't like. Can't we just watch movies that studios have to offer us without starting a culture war?
Not when the company's are pushing the message and propaganda in there films wile insulting there costumers. Disney getting into politics is also not helping. Also, There are more independent entertainment companies online or abroad to pick over Disney or DreamWorks. There numbers are growing. Long live the iron age.
@@johnjay370 Oh shut up with that PoLiTIc AgenDa crap. What messages are they sending. Is it minorities existing or a company that doesn't care about politics and just want to pander to audiences when they didn't even ask for it. Take your pick.
Honestly, the fact that people get butthurt over seeing an LGBTQ+ character is childish asf. Like yeah Disney portrays LGBTQ+ representation for money (at this point) but like there are ways to make LGBTQ+ characters in film likeable and have good storytelling
I’m not bias for any animation studio, but I will say Disney has been tumbling down the stair well and I hope they can get on their feet and actually make good entertainment.
@@finalmountain yep but I one bad decision has sent them tumbling down a stair well and while I haven’t lose complete hope I it’s very clear to see the difference.
My thoughts on the state of things recently is that Disney has become complacent. It has been THE animation studio for as long as I can remember, producing a lot of great stuff that put them at the top and made them the juggernaut they are today. But that rise also means they feel they don't have to try experimenting anymore from their routine plot formulas because their position is secure, and they can make the same story over and over again while pushing politics on its audience to score some brownie points. DreamWorks, on the other hand, has been the underdog. They've been willing to try something different in a bid to gain some ground to stand on. Some of it has been good, some has been bad. Some had potential, but never got the audience they deserved. But at least they're trying. The fight on the bridge in Kung Fu Panda? The animators didn't know how to do that. Someone like Disney might've decided to cut that out for fear of it turning out bad, but DreamWorks decided to do their best anyway. and I don't think they've pushed politics into their films beyond maybe a joke or two. What Disney should be doing is looking at how much DreamWorks is surpassing their current films, see what is working and what isn't, and change their approach. Try something different. Or at least go back to having an actual villain instead of interpersonal problems.
Disney has standards, they either make good or great movies for the most time, while DreamWorks takes risk, they either make garbage or cinematic masterpiece
Turning Red got a lot of hate for no reason even before being released and considering the story themes and animation styles, I think that people making fun of Turning Red but hyping up Ruby Gilman Teenage Kraken are hypocritical.
Ok Recycle Waste, imma get at you later but yeah. People are very hypocritical about anything Disney makes including Pixar. And it’s really sad that all the hate comes from grown adult males.
One property that I think was a travesty to not mention is the How to Train Your Dragon series. It is a fantastic trilogy that, even in its worst movie, still really held some of the most emotional moments in the series. It was a true masterpiece of a series and really demonstrates how to grow up with your audience. It was released during the 2010s, the so-called low point of Dreamworks. Failing to mention this series really does a disservice to the studio and those working behind the scenes.
I´m so so glad that someone finally points this out! I was having the same thoughts about the hate against disney and the praise for Dreamworks. I have to admit that Disney slacked a little in past years but that doesn´t undo all the quality films they made before. Same goes for Dreamworks who has released some bangers and some absolute failures. I´m pretty interested what the future holds and how these companies will develop. And I also hope that Dinsey gets a bit braver with the content they produce and I hope Dreamworks keeps up the good work aswell! Thank you so much for pointing out the differences between these companies! I feel the same 🙌
Honestly even though on one hand, there is some creativity from Disney… I honestly feel like they should just give directors who made the likes of amphibia, gravity falls and owl house to make a big budget movie for the big screen. The shows in Disney shows so much creativity and I love them and obsess over it, but the way Disney treats them honestly bugs me
@@skelebonez1349 Not sure if Alex Hirsch is open to collaborating with Disney again if his frustration on the gay male cops not having their relationship onscreen until the final episode says enough.
@@Thomasmemoryscentral I mean yeah fair, but my point still stands. There’s a level of huge quality for the animated show department while quality is the rarity for the films, including in the likes of marvel! That to me feels like a huge issue I won’t discredit such things like turning red to at least have the balls to talk about puberty and have that be the main driving force for the film, but again, this stuff is few and far between, to Disney they don’t have to try anymore at all, not that they won’t make a quality film, but that they don’t have to try to because they’ll often make a lot anyway Meanwhile dreamworks and even DC… while yeah it can have its hiccups, there’s a level of love and passion inside them that you don’t see for Disney anymore. Least again, for the films And it bugs me seeing how they won’t try to have those kinds of people who’d normally do the tv show stuff to do it in theaters because of how much love is put there
I'm just the same as you, but I personally don't like Disney, not because of the films they make, but it's the piece of shit decisions they made back then which made me hate them.
I really agree with your opinion. DreamWorks isn't perfect like every other animation studio. They have some stinkers, but I think that DreamWorks has a lot more hits than misses, while Disney has tons of hits and misses at the same time. So honestly, I'll be keeping an eye out on the upcoming movies from Disney and DreamWorks, except for Trolls 3.
I personally think DreamWorks has more misses than hits but they hit they hit sooo hard it's unbelievable. Disney even at their best isn't anything special
Just from what I've observed. I think the rotten tomato comparison between puss and avatar doesn't quite make sense, but at the same time. Do people even talk about Avatar 2? The long awaited sequel to the first Avatar? Everyone talks about Puss in boots the last wish despite everyone thinking it wasnt gonna be anything special for a sequel of the first puss in boots movie that also took a long time for it to release. Puss in boots the last wish has more things to say and memorable.
I actually thought this time period was gonna be bad for animation but I turns out that we are actually in an new experimental period. I mean, del torro's Pinocchio, DreamWorks the bad guys and puss in boots and also pay attention to what other, smaller studios like cartoon saloon are doing. I love it!
Personally, I think that both Disney and Dreamworks are capable of producing good movies which are unique to them, regardless of how DreamWorks started out. The reason for this is because I found that films like Mulan, Tangled and The Lion King are amazing in terms of their animation, characters and narrative, with DreamWorks achieving the same results with films/ franchises like The Prince of Eygpt, Kung Fu Panda and How to train your Dragon. As such, I don't believe that one studio is superior to the other since both have had their fair share of successes, failures and underrated gems over the years.
The Puss in Botts vs Avatar 2 argument is actually plausible as they're both sequels to films that came out a decade prior and both lasted longer in theaters than expected and made a lot of money. Though while one was an expensive animated film pretending to be live action with a message that amounted to little more than "save the whales", Puss in Boots was an emotional and action packed journey about coming to grips with life and making the most out of it.
Thank you for bringing up the fact people compared Puss in Boots with Avatar: The Way of Water XDDD I never understood why people tried to compare them, I love both movies separately and they're in completely different categories.
Because they are both sequel to a film over a decade ago, both taken 10 years to a make. The difference is, one is a most wanted sequel and other one is a sequel that nobody wanted. But that sequel that nobody wanted has people still watching it in the big screen even after bluray starts to stream it. Nobody is even talking about avatar 2 outside its technology and box office and yet people are still talking about puss and boots for its imagination and storytelling (the things you supposed to talk about when you see a good movie).
@@madmouse1016nope I replied because it seeems like you don't understand why people compare avatar 2 to puss and boots. And in what part did it make zero sense to you?
@@ragingtomato04 because- one was animated and the other was live action/CGI, their stories were completely different and dealt with different topics, the only thing going for this argument is that they were released around the same time.
@@madmouse1016Bruh, you know what a computer animation/3D animation is? A continuous CGI, saying avatar 2 is a "live action" is like saying Benedict Cumberbatch playing smaug as "live action" 😂. And no, being the same time of year is not only the point of comparison. As I said, this are both sequels that take over a decade to make. And having a third of the budget that avatar 2 has, with no expectations to be good at all. How come puss in boots has been a way better film? Is that not enough reason to compare to you? are you living in the world that all created movies are equal and should not be compared? I haven't even heard a single person saying "avatar's story is great". It always have been the "technology" and the "blockbuster" 😂.
Puss in Boots 2 felt like a return to form for me, it reminded me of the older animated classics I watched as a kid, with a more updated style and visuals. I had grown a bit bored of the newer animated films, but my little brother convinced me to take him, and I didn’t expect something like that at all.
Especially when there's a lot of crossovers from the creative team. Like do people actually think everyone from the animation team of dw, don't get hired in Disney??
Thank You, It’s about time a UA-camr addressed the “Praise Dreamwork’s and hate Disney” problem. As someone who prefers live action but has strong opinions and appreciation for animation. I respect Pixar, Ghibli, Dreamwork’s and Disney (Animation studio not the company) equally The people behind these “Dreamwork’s is better than Disney memes” are obviously biased
I have a theory, Dreamworks produces the garbage films like Boss Baby and Trolls to invest in their good movies. Really think about it, by farming that kid’s money(Which Illumination has an excessive amount), then can pay their staff and create great movies. Yeah it ruins their reputation a bit, but in the end it’s all about the masterpieces.
Strange world is SO underrated. It was under-advertised, but I saw it recently and thought it was absolutely fantastic. Same deal with Onward btw. Fantastic movie.
I respect your opinion, but I found both kind of boring LOL No, they’re not terrible films but also not very remarkable IMO Granted the “controversy” with Strange World was overblown and ridiculous
Yeah I don't like the Avatar comparisons because it's not like Avatar bombed. Avatar also got good ratings. They're both good films. Comparing Puss and Velma makes more sense due to their opposing reasons for popularity and for onw trying to be mature and the other actually being mature. The comparison that makes the most sense is Puss vs literally any kids film released in the last 5 years.
There are two kinds of people. Those who think Avatar got good ratings, and those that know money talks in the film industry; and that no one has more money than Disney.
Because they are both sequel to a film over a decade ago, both taken 10 years to a make. The difference is, one is a most wanted sequel and other one is a sequel that nobody wanted. But that sequel that nobody wanted has people still watching it in the big screen even after bluray starts to stream it. Nobody is even talking about avatar 2 outside its technology and box office and yet people are still talking about puss and boots for its imagination and storytelling (the things you supposed to talk about when you see a good movie).
I’m so glad someone pointed this out. Yeah we get it, Dreamworks is “dominating” Disney and is taking the crown. But is it really worth making a whole culture war out of it? It’s like Sony Vs Xbox while Sony being the best because it has more variety. Android vs IPhone but you praise iPhone because of the quality of the camera (also sounds like a stupid comparison). Nickelodeon vs Cartoon Network (but at least this one makes sense because the only good thing Nick has is SpongeBob rn while Cartoon Network actually puts effort in their shows). But in all seriousness, this war has gone too out of hand and if Disney is kid friendly, these “adults” shouldn’t be complaining about kids movies to begin with. It’s not bad, it’s just not for you. It isn’t kid friendly, it’s just not suitable for ppl like you because you think you’re too old for it. Remember Dreamworks made lots of childish movies compare to every Pixar and Disney films. At this point, we need to go back to when movies were just enjoyable by a variety of audiences cuz I sure don’t remember people hating SharkTales,Trolls, boss baby, and shrek 3 until now (well I actually despise shrek 3
I do agree with you on console war and android v iphones because both of them are good products so their no point in fighting But in the case of Disney it makes sense . You have said cartoon network and nickelodeon comparison makes sense cuz one side is putting effort and other side isn't . Same thing could said about Disney and DreamWorks . Also very hypothetical of you to complain adults criticizing kid's movie yet you are saying Nickelodeon doesn't put effort into their cartoons made for "kids".
@@chickenabuser5474well Nick has only downfalls since the goat shows like Fairly odd parents ended and teh loud house while Disney yeah they are failing but they atleast make sometimes good content not often but atleast sometimes
@@chickenabuser5474 nice way to ignore the statement i was giving out. Plus, i never try to say that nic having less variety was "childish", im just saying that they been focusing too much on live action sitcoms. Plus they keep cancelling some of their good shows and only got ones ive lost interest in besides spongebob.
I cant speak about how people think Dreamworks is better than Disney in every way. I can say that Dreamworks is actually willing to take risks whereas Disney seems to be playing it safer and safer every year. The *fact that they recycle all their more successful animated titles into live action rereleases and the near absence of actual (good) villains shows their unwillingness to step outside their comfort zone. It just seems they put up too many barriers in their creativity. I think this overall makes Dreamworks the better studio. Not because EVERYTHING they do is just better but more of the philosophy behind how they approach animation and storytelling. And as for the rivalry thing, although petty... competition is a *good thing especially if it motivates you to do better than your rival.
@GrayGGK exactly how is it any different then kids seeing heterosexual characters? Kids are brain dead. They understand things when explained Hell Mr. Rogers was a showed aimed at very young kids, and it had a whole episode about racism and other such topics. Same with a lot of other shows aimed at kids. Kids are capable of understanding a lot if it's explained to them and them being taught about things early has been repeatedly shown to help them better handle meeting such people in their life and not being terrible because they see them as different.
True. A lot of times these memes were just an excuse to call the mere existence and visibility of gay or non-white people "woke propaganda" and consider that a bad thing because...? Most of these people probably don't even know what the word "woke" means or where it originally came from.
I like both Disney and DreamWorks’s animated films. Both companies with Disney and Dreamworks both what’s hits and misses. There are some movies that I like from both Disney and Dreamworks that others may like or dislike, or others that they like or dislike, that I may not like or dislike in that sense. If I’m being honest, they both have it’s uphills and downhills at the same time, which happens in many franchises and companies. I think they are both great companies.
I remember watching Rise of the Guardians and being so in love at how the team at Dreamworks rendered the ice (not to mention feathers and sand and all the wonderfully weird character designs), it was so beautiful and creative, I'm still in awe of it today. Frozen truly seemed subpar to me after that.
Tw: Bad English I remembered seeing those videos whit ”Disney 🏳️🌈🤮 vs Dreamworks 😎💪” edit, and I was a bit pissed of because those people completely ignore Baby boss 2 and Trols 2 movie existing while Disneys Encanto, Lucka and turning red are actually good and enjoyable. So I made decision to write comment… Moral: Don’t say to dreamworks fans that puss in boots and deaths from it are furry, even though it’s true + I seen some people making Disney vs illumination edits and they are whit serious face saying that freaking minions is good movie 💀 ++I like Disney new mermaid vs Ruby edits, because Disneys life action remakes are trash whit dark CGI that makes loved fairytales look like national geographic documentary filmed with money earned from a lemonade stand, that doesn’t even tell new stories, and people should instead of giving them more money go to teenage kraken movie
Because western LGBT people are freaking toxic and annoying. I'm LGBT myself tho from Asia, but my god the "inclusive" western LGBT people has doubted my sexuality wayyy more than the so-called "bigots." Why the doubt? Coz I didn't agree with them. They literally "you don't agree with us? You're not one of us"-ed me. As if I need their permission to be myself.🙄 Plus westerners are so quick to call anyone that hates the Disney live actions racists. Like really? It can't be because it sucks? Americans are so caught up with their echo chamber they don't relaize that compared to the world, they're the minority.😂
The issue I have is that people raise Dreamworks on pedestal just because of puss in boots. The shit on Disney and try to find smallest things to shit on while some of their arguments can be applied to Dreamworks as well. _Disney doesn't have villains anymore_ that doesn't mean move is bad just because Disney moved away from villains, i loved turning red, Pixar made Inside out which people loved. _Raya and last dragon is culturally wrong_ Kung-fu panda is culturally wrongs, it's not Chinese culture but how Americans see Chinese culture and nobody cares because it's great movie. i don't mind Disney moving away from villains, there's definitely much more to explore when there is no bad guy and I know good guys will always win. not every movie Dreamworks made was a hit: home, trolls, they milked Shrek and Madagascar to the point where they put random shit. People treat Dreamworks like everything they make is absolute masterpiece And honestly most of the time I don't even know who made what I just try to enjoy the movie
It's also hypocritical for extreme dw fans to judge Disney for having lgbtqia characters and representation on their films, when dw tv animations have MAIN CHARACTERS who are one.
Sure! Adora, the main character of She-ra and the Princesses of Power is lesbian. Benso Mekler, a secondary character from Kipo is gay. There are many characters from the former show that are lgbtqia+ too. Dreamworks also did Voltron Legendary Defender though personally, I was not too fond of the representation of those characters.
I feel like every time there's a Disney vs Dreamworks video on UA-cam, they always put Puss In Boots: The Last Wish against... Strange World. Like give Disney a fair chance and put up one of their best recent movies like Luca or Encanto. All I wanted to say.
Something that you neglected to mention was Chapek was actively sabotaging Disney Animation because he hates the medium. He screwed with Strange World and made sure it had the worst possible marketing campaign where people had no idea what it was about beyond the strange imagery. Though, Strange World is was rather meh movie. It suffered from the same issue as Frozen 2 in which it could not have people be bad. It also didn't seem to know who it wanted to be the main character, the father or the son. Disney should get back into the villain (and not the twist villain) business. They were so good at it and a villain really helps to keep a story tight.
To be fair, Disney for the most is passing out of their phase of the "Twist Villain" and have near completely moved into their "Interpersonal Drama and Trauma, no real bad guys, because everyone has a complicated story" Which I enjoy better than stupid Twist Villains that you only know are evil for 5 minutes of a film, but still a whole lot worse than making a great villain that you Love to Hate.
I just wanna like both of them, this war between animation giants should be a friendly competition in my opinion, where they all learn from each other in order to make themselves better.
Disney: makes terrible Sequels DreamWorks: Makes iconic trilogies Both companies are not perfect but one definitely stomps the other when it comes expanding lore and characters.
@@kenanbroersma709 That's what happens when you take risks. You either get absolute trash or undeniable masterpieces. I'll take that over safe, by-the-books movies any day of the week.
@@kenanbroersma709 No. Disney doesn't simply make bad movies. They make uninspired bland trash, which is far worse. Uninspired films can even be "good" on a technical level, while still feeling hollow and lifeless. A bad film fails on a technical level. An uninspired film fails on an artistic level. Disney films are the one thing a movie should never be: *boring.*
@@recycledwaste8737 There are plenty of disney sequels that aren't necessarily uninspired just look at TS4 and Incredibles 2. Both of them are terrible movies. They have good ideas, but terrible execution. Dreamworks is the same way. They make blatant uninspired cash grabs too. Shrek the 3rd for example. Bro just because dreamworks made a good movie last year doesn't meant you have to hate Disney animation studios or Pixar. They all have their strengths and weaknesses. Dreamwokrs isn't perfect either.
Yeah everyone's said it already but Winnie the Pooh (2011) was Disney's actual final 2D theatrical release. Most people forgot about it because it had the rotten luck of releasing the same weekend as the last Harry Potter film and was predictably mutilated at the box office
DreamWorks trying new things and breaking boundaries is actually a good thing. Obviously they're not gonna have success with the first two movies or so. But once they figure out the formula. You know you boutta get a banger. Curiosity and innovation will always be ahead of the curve.
I highly doubt we’ll get another animated film based on a biblical story considering how sensitive some modern audiences are to certain subject matters in the Bible. For example, I highly doubt you can do an animated adaptation of King David without including the part where he lusted after his friend’s wife and sent him away to war to die so he could marry her or even an adaptation of Abraham where he has sex with his wife’s Egyptian handmaiden by his wife’s orders to have a son/heir early instead of waiting for his promised son/heir from God.
@@traviscunningham7062 that’s what I thought it might have been. Although I assumed that the fact it’s previous owners Classic Media, which DreamWorks Animation bought before it was then bought by Universal.
If I could pick just one bible story for dreamworld to turn into a movie I would pick the book of Esther. It has everything that would make an awesome movie. A attempted assassination, an evil advisor with hilarious laugh at moments, an awesome main character who checks off modern studios need for a strong female protagonist while also being feminine. The best part is they could match the name with their previous bible movies and call it the queen of Persia.
I find it jarring that people think Disney is done for after Strange World. If we isolate Disney Animation from the rest of Disney, then Disney animation is doing just fine. They have always made some bad films, so Idk why y’all are freaking out over this. And less y’all forget Encanto, amazing film, was less than 2 years ago
Dreamsworks and Disney feel like the Resident Evil and Silent Hill franchises. Both Dreamworks and the Resident Evil games created both bad and good works, but their good works are absolutely amazing. Both Disney and Silent Hill used to make good works, and now they seems incapable of understanding the concept of passion and art.
The worst thing is that in these comparison videos they don’t even put any arguments. They just put better music for the one they like with good emojis and they put bad music for the one they hate with bad emojis. Also, they always make sure to choose the worst parts of the movie for the bad ones. For example, Turning Red, they always use the twerk scene as if it defines the whole movie. These people have no arguments and they think that putting the good part of the music on the « good » studio will make it look better. That remembers me these edit with people comparing modern days vs the past, in the case where the past was way better. But not the past like the 80s, no no. The past like the Middle Ages, Jesus Christ era, the 19th century etc… « Ah yes, things were much better back then when we could murder each other for religion, when the majority of the children were dying in their infant years and when women did not have rights back then. Such good time and memories 🥺🥰. But Modern times where more and more people are having freedom, when you can finally marry the person you want in some countries without being hated for that, when you don’t have to be killed because you don’t believe in God, when racism, sexism, antisemitism and homophobia are finally starting to be judged, nah I hate Modern Times. It sucks so much. » I should make an edit of this one day. Yeah. I agree. Past has it’s goods and it’s bad and same for Modern day, it has his goods and his bad. But comparing those two and absolutely hating on one of them will not change anything. I like both Past and Modern day. Somedays, I wished I had lived during the Antiquity and other days, I am happy and glad to be born today. Things are grey, not black or white. And I feel like some people forgot it. Ps: Sorry for my bad English, it’s not my first language.
Have to agree, seen a few of those comparisons videos and I was confused what they were even about. Though one Madd it clear they took issues with two male characters standing next to each other without any context which leaves a pretty clear message on something they took issue even if theu didn't provide a spread of context for that one.
Dreamworks is more "Juvenile" fun and just seeing how far they can go with family films while making sure they don't hurt anyone. And unlike Disney, they were willing to do something new, not remake them and don't force diversity with their films.
I just hope that in the Shrek 5 movie, once Disney buys DreamWorks, all the Official Disney Princes and Princesses from their respective movies appear, especially all the characters from Rise of the Guardians movie, from Frozen movies, from How to Train Your Dragon movies, from Brave movie, from Tangled movie, from Moana movie, from Raya and the Last Dragon movie, from Encanto movie and the most important character in the movie of The Little Mermaid 2: Return to the Sea, Melody, the daughter of Prince Eric and Princess Ariel, and thus, they will be the new main characters of the Shrek 5 movie so that they help Shrek, Princess Fiona, Donkey, Dragon, Puss in Boots, Kitty Softpaws, Perrito, Prince Lancelot, Princess Tiffany, King Artie, Princess Guinevere, the children of Shrek and Princess Fiona: Fergus, Farkle and Felicia, the children of Donkey and Dragon: Bananas, Parfait, Peanut, Eclair, Coco and Debbie and the others to defeat Rumpelstiltskin, Death and all the Official Villains of Disney and DreamWorks, as the Evil Queen, Lady Tremaine, Drizella Tremaine, Maleficent, Marina del Rey, Ursula, Gaston, Forte, Jafar, Sa'luk, Governor Ratcliffe, Shan Yu, Doctor Facilier, Mother Gothel, Zhan Tiri, Te Kā, Tamatoa, the Red Death, Drago Bludvist, Grimmel the Grimmel, Mor'du, Prince Hans, Pitch Black, the Druun, the Soldiers and Morgana, and to prevent Rumpelstiltskin, Death and the other Official Villains of Disney and DreamWorks from ruling and destroying the kingdom of Princess Fiona and King Artie called Far Far Away, Shrek along with his wife named Princess Fiona will need help from their new friends which are the Official Disney Princes and Princesses, as Prince Florian, Princess Snow White, Prince Charming, Princess Cinderella, Prince Philip, Princess Aurora, Prince Eric, Princess Ariel, Prince Adam, Princess Belle, Prince Aladdín, Princess Jasmine, Prince John Smith, Princess Pocahontas, Prince Li Shang, Princess Fa Mulan, Prince Naveen, Princess Tiana, Prince Flynn Rider, Princess Rapunzel, Maui, Queen Moana Waialiki, Hiccup Haddock, Princess Mérida, Kristoff Bjorgman, Queen Anna, Jack Frost, Princess Elsa, Princess Raya, Princess Mirabel Madrigal, Anastasia Tremaine and Melody, although in reality, Melody is the first and only that she is not a true Official Disney Princess along with Anastasia Tremaine, because Anastasia Tremaine is not born of royalty, while, Melody made her debut in the movie of The Little Mermaid 2: Return to the Sea and it is also because she is the first and only daughter of an Official Disney Princess, but Shrek, Princess Fiona, Donkey, Dragon, Puss in Boots, Kitty Softpaws, Perrito, Prince Lancelot, Princess Tiffany, King Artie, Princess Guinevere, the children of Shrek and Princess Fiona: Fergus, Farkle, and Felicia, the children of Donkey and Dragon: Bananas, Parfait, Peanut, Eclair, Coco and Debbie and the others also need Anastasia Tremaine and Melody's help to protect and save their kingdom called Far Far Away away from Rumpelstiltskin, Death and the other Official Villains of Disney and DreamWorks, because Anastasia Tremaine is now a good person, while, Melody is the daughter of Prince Eric and Princess Ariel, but in the Shrek 5 movie, I also want to see the death of Queen Lillian, because since her husband named King Harold passed away in the Shrek 3 movie, she has felt heartbroken and that caused his own death in his kingdom called Far Far Away, and all the inhabitants of Princess Fiona and King Artie's kingdom called Far Far Away are saddened by the death of Queen Lillian, because now she is with her husband named King Harold in heaven, and now they have lost their queen, that means now the kingdom of Far Far Away needs a new queen and King Artie said that his love interest, girlfriend, fiancée and former classmate from Worcestershire school called Princess Guinevere would be the one to be the new Queen of Far Far Away, so King Artie decided to return to his old school called Worcestershire along with Shrek, with his older cousin Princess Fiona, with Donkey, with Dragon, with Puss in Boots, with Kitty Softpaws, with Perrito, with the children of Shrek and Princess Fiona: Fergus, Farkle and Felicia, with the children of Donkey and Dragon: Bananas, Parfait, Peanut, Eclair, Coco and Debbie and with the others to meet again with their friends from their school who are actually Prince Lancelot, Princess Tiffany and their love interest, girlfriend and fiancée Princess Guinevere to take them back to their kingdom called Far Far Away, and in the Shrek 5 movie, I also want to see the romance of all the Official Disney Princes and Princesses from their respective movies, especially the romance of Maui and Queen Moana Waialiki, the romance of Hiccup Haddock and Princess Mérida, the romance of Jack Frost and Princess Elsa, the romance of Prince Lancelot and Princess Tiffany and the romance of King Artie and Princess Guinevere, because I think in the Shrek 5 movie, Maui will be Queen Moana Waialiki's love interest, boyfriend and fiancé, while Hiccup Haddock will be Princess Mérida's love interest and boyfriend, Princess Tiffany will be Prince Lancelot's love interest, girlfriend and fiancée and Princess Guinevere will be King Artie's love interest, girlfriend and fiancée, because Queen Moana Waialiki is going to fall in love with Maui, Princess Mérida is going to fall in love Hiccup Haddock, Princess Tiffany is going to fall in love with Prince Lancelot and Princess Guinevere is going to fall in love with King Artie, but they don't know how to tell them their feelings towards them and neither how to win their hearts, because every time Queen Moana Waialiki gets too close to Maui when it comes to true love, she gets very nervous with him, while which in the case of Princess Mérida is also the same, because whenever Princess Mérida gets too close to Hiccup Haddock when it comes to true love, she also gets very nervous with him, in the case of Princess Tiffany it is also the same, because whenever Princess Tiffany gets too close to Prince Lancelot when it comes to true love, she also gets very nervous around him, and in the case of Princess Guinevere too, because every time Princess Guinevere gets too close to King Artie when it comes to true love, she also gets very nervous around him, but luckily for them, Princess Fiona will help Queen Moana Waialiki to win the heart of Maui, also Princess Mérida to win the heart of Hiccup Haddock, also Princess Tiffany to win the heart of Prince Lancelot and also Princess Guinevere to win the heart of King Artie, and I also want that in the Shrek movie 5, Jack Frost will be Princess Elsa's love interest and boyfriend, because Jack Frost leaves fall in love with Princess Elsa, but he doesn't know how to tell her his feelings and how to win her heart, because every time Jack Frost gets too close to Princess Elsa when it comes to true love, he gets very nervous with her, but fortunately for him, Shrek will help Jack Frost to win the heart of Princess Elsa, except Princess Raya and Princess Mirabel Madrigal, because now they will be the only Official Disney Princesses who do not need to have love interests and who can remain single forever, and I also say the same for Melody, the daughter of Prince Eric and Princess Ariel, because like Princess Raya and Princess Mirabel Madrigal, she doesn't need a love interest either, but in the Shrek 5 movie, I also want to see the rivalry between King Artie and Queen Anna because they both want to compete in a challenge to see who is the best monarch a of a kingdom, that is, the best ruler of a kingdom, because both want to do what is best for their own kingdom, because King Artie wants to do what is best for his kingdom called Far Far Away because now he is the new King of Far Far Away and Queen Anna wants to do the best for their kingdom called Arendelle because now she is the new Queen of Arendelle, but at the end of the Shrek 5 movie, King Artie and Queen Anna become best friends in the world, because at the end of the Shrek 5 movie, they both learned from their mistakes that they have made since their challenge to compete to see who is the best monarch of a kingdom, that is, the best ruler of a kingdom, and that at the end of the Shrek 5 movie, King Artie and Princess Guinevere see their first true love kiss and that they become a romantic couple, just like Prince Lancelot and Princess Tiffany, and also that at the end of the Shrek 5 movie, Maui, Hiccup Haddock, Kristoff Bjorgman, Jack Frost, Prince Lancelot and King Artie become the new official members of the Official Disney Princes, while Queen Anna, Princess Elsa, Princess Mirabel Madrigal, Princess Tiffany and Princess Guinevere become the new official members of the Official Disney Princesses and that one day, Princess Tiffany will be the wife of Prince Lancelot and that they have a son and a daughter, that is, a family in the future, and that also Princess Guinevere is the wife of King Artie, that they also have a son and a daughter, that is, a family and that she becomes the new Queen of Far Far Away in the future.
I honestly feel like Disney could do some good to itself by going back to the classic 2D animation they had before, even if just for one movie. It'd be a change from the 3D animation now, it'd stand out. Not to mention that it's so smooth to watch. Most people I know miss that type of animation it's not like great things can't be done with it.
This entire thing could be summarized as "They make good movies when they actually focus on the story and not trying to squeeze as much money as possible from it". If you focus on the story then you can get good results, but when you create a movie which is more focused on inflicting a message, you more often then not get a flop. Like in comparison, Puss in Boots 2 did one of the best stories of it's time of release, meanwhile they are also producing TV series like "Dragons: The Nine Realms" which apparently every video I get recommended on is a video that hates on it. The New movie focused on making a good story, while the TV sequel/Spin-off is seemingly terrible because it's likely just a cash grab.
They aren’t bad, but the problem is that they aren’t good movies either. I almost fell asleep during Luca and (maybe only because I’m a boy) I didn’t really like turning red as I found it obnoxious.
@@blackskyboii No becouse it isnt true. Luca's parents are loveful and brave, but strict and prejudiceful. They learn about their mistakes, like majority of support characters, and main characters learn about their own mistakes. Luca!s parents arent perfect, so they can grove. Yes, they have conflict with Luca (who never have conflict with parents?), but kid friends have conflicts too. It is normal, that characters have conflicts. Conflict between Luca and parents start story, but disapper to majority of film and is resolved nearly after return to story. They arent villians. Ercole is villian, he is teenager bulling children for own fun, cant learn about own prejudices, act against protagonists majority of movie, and he defeated of climax. Yes, Mei's mom is a villian of Turning red. But 1) she still has positive motives, and she is reformed on the end. She is more antagonist that villian. 2) It is movie about puberty, strict parent as a antagonist is believable, relatable and symbolic, 3) it is just mom, not parents, mei's father isnt villian, he is important support character, just with short showtime.
@@michaelkolarik6189 I honestly don't give a duck about Luca. Like I honestly forgot what happened in Luca. I like Luca but not my personal favourite. I love Turning Red because I watched it twice. I wish Disney/Pixar could do so much more then just family trauma, and horrible live action filled with woke. I grew up watching dreamworks movies then I was with Disney.
The reason I feel people compare Disney to dreamworks is because dreamworks is bringing more quality and not quantity to their films compared to Disney as a whole. Sure turning red and luca are good films, but by the likes of Pixar that to me isn’t a good thing. Because quality feels like the minority in films. And it’s not like there’s no possibility for Disney to not make a quality film! Looking at the animated show department, they can DEFINITELY make something iconic with owl house, amphibia, gravity falls and others. But disneys actively tried screwing those projects up one way or another in favor of the endless slip of marvel films, Star Wars films, live action remakes and what have you (I’m not a marvel or Star Wars hater, but they’ve kinda fell off. Things like spiderman no way home was amazing tho)
I am a child in the way that I don't watch a lot of live action, and I like to watch mostly animation for my entertainment. Maybe its because I like to see the fantasies people make? But the more recent animated movies have disappointed me. That chain was broken by The Last Wish.
I prefer animated over live action because there aren't really many, if any limitations Sure, live action is impressive with some things that go on, but in the end its limited by what humans can do
Avatar completly live action? My sweet sweet child regardless what pretencious people call it to feel supiriour for not liking cartoons. Avatar is nearly all CGI it's literally an animation technique. Disneys Dinosaurs, A Christmas Carol and Lightyear are as much live action as Avatar or the Lion King remake. It's the same process just with the directors going "make it more realistic" or "make it more stylized". Avatar is basically Marry Poppins jumping in the Cartoon world but becoming a cartoon herself and only a few others stay live action.
Wow what a twist Dreamworks the immature studios who couldn’t take things serious is taking this whole thing serious Disney the serious studios who act mature acts really immature
The truth is Dreamworks is a roller coaster in terms of quality. Some movies are great, others are average. But overall, Dreamworks is more likely to take chances than Disney. It was the reason why they were created in the first place.
tHe tRuTh iS, dReAmWoRkS iS a rOlLeR cOaStEr my guy, have you been using this line from other commenters cuz I sure have seen this so many goddamn times
Those video edits people make of Dreamworks being superior than Disney and Pixar because of the quality of content being released. Like, calm down folks; Turning Red isn’t THAT BAD of a film. And besides, Trolls 3 and Boss Baby 3 is in the works, two movie franchises I don’t like. Those kind of people are annoying and not worth listening to unless they come up with a coherent argument.
I don't have much hatred towards their not so famous movies like boss baby, trolls, etc., sometimes the silliness of childlike trash of it makes me laugh. It's a stupid movie, but I sometimes need childish and corny stuff to watch to balance it all. And as long as Dreamworks keep making these masterpieces like the last wish, then I don't mind them making a cash grab movie with toilet jokes. That company needs money, and I don't want them gone 😅. Also, the first time I've watched boss baby was with my siblings, and we actually enjoyed the silliness and thought how stupid this movie was. But we still had fun, trolls too. It's fun watching trash cartoons with the family, lol.
One thing I really respect about Dreamworks is that they try different stuff all the time, and are not bound to one demographic. Some of their movies are obviously more inclined to children, like Trolls and Boss Baby, and some push for a more adult feel, like their older 2D works. Most of the time though, they manage to cater to everyone, somehow. They are the only studio, I feel, that truly gets what "for the whole family" means.
I'm one of the few defenders of DW's less critically acclaimed movies like the Trolls franchise, because if those movies give Dreamworks enough money to make more masterpieces, then I'm fine with them existing. I'm not going to watch _every_ single thing they do, but I'm glad they have such a wide arrange.
This. I love your take
I agree. Dreamworks tries all sorts of different things while Disney normally sticks to one. Unless they try the new animation style sweeping theaters and just stick with making characters look as real as possible or live-action, then they will not get the money they think they will get from animation-hungry adults like me
I absolutely love your take on this it's a massive w
All I see here is a big honkin' W. Trolls may be a silly kid's series, but it's still perfectly harmless. As long as there isn't anything insulting or questionable in it, I don't mind it existing one bit.
@@KarateGirl999 another W take
I feel like dreamworks is more hit or miss but when they hit they hit harder
Facts
YES. When they create a mediocre or average movie, it usually takes people a little longer to remember that it is a part of their library. But when they create a banger, it DEMOLISHES the competition. I would much rather watch How To Train Your Dragon, Shrek, or Kung Fu Panda over most of what Pixar has to offer. Aside from The Incredibles, then it would have to depend on how I'm feeling that day.
@@shdox_ The Incredibles is GOAT, I agree. Hate me for it, but the sequel is very good imo. HTTYD and KFP are very good hits by DW. Shrek kinda regressed after Shrek 2.
@@shdox_ I still feel bad that people don't remember Megamind much - that movie was so good tho.
@@OmegaEnvych People do remember Megamind. Literally all the time.
Disney: "How could this be!? We were the top dogs of animation."
Dreamworks: "What's the matter? Lives flashing before your eyes?"
Disney has had its slumps before though. If I recall correctly they almost went bankrupt during World War Two when their primary output was Allied propaganda and they needed Cinderella to save them in 1950.
And after Walt died in 1966, the company hit a slump leading to Don Bluth going into business with Steven Spielberg and driving the Walt Disney company to the verge of bankruptcy to the point where The Little Mermaid had to save the company from financial ruin.
And after The Emperor’s New Groove somehow flopped it took almost a decade for Disney Animation to recover.
It’s by no means clear that this is the death of Disney as a big shot animation studio
DreamWorks is the death of Disney muhahaha.
Here’s a add on to this
Dreamworks: And I don't mean it metaphorically or rhetorically or poetically or theoretically or any other fancy way. I'm remarkable. Straight. Up."
“Gonna cry?”
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I know that Dreamworks is often infamous for making masterpieces or utter memable garbage, but I honestly think the balance is a testament to their ingenuity.
Pixar or Disney would never touch a concept like Turbo with a ten foot pole, but it’s such a bizarre idea that it works for me.
They are so determined to stick to the status quo that they never branch out and try something potentially divisive. Their newer movies are so stale and boring as a result. Trolls 3, for all it’s garbage, will unironically be more creative than all the live action sludge fests Disney craps out these days. I may not personally enjoy it, but I appreciate how Dreamworks doesn’t hold back.
I would argue that Dreamworks’ highs are higher than Disney’s by a landslide.
Turbo is dreamworks?
Universal is glad that they own both Illumination and Dreamworks
@@Jymboslicx Yup.
@@Paul_Recall that’s a good point. Ratatouille is obviously the better movie by a landslide, but that was back when Pixar actually gave a damn instead of these annoying “realistic” movies.
I miss when they could tackle larger than life issues while also being fun and creative.
Pixar is ALL ABOUT trying weird concepts. Ratatouille? WALL-E? UP?? The only “safe” movies they’ve done in recent memory is Lightyear and maybe Luca
The problem with Disney is not the animation, it's the messaging.
Its also the animation it all looks the same.
Animation in Disney is getting very generic while Dreamworks try new art styles like Bad Guys and The Last Wish
Although it wasn’t a good movie trolls had a unique style too, the scrapbooking style was pretty unique, if only the movie was on the same level
No, its the storytelling. And they still do really good movies like Encanto.
I'd say the problem isn't the message but rather how they execute is done rather poorly specially with movies like raya and turning red.
I always felt that Disney's in house animation was pretty overrated. Pixar carried Disney for a while and still produce a lot of their best films which is why it sucks they're being forced to make unnecessary sequels to balance Disney's pocketbook. Everything across the board is down in quality.
True.
Pixar was used to keep the Disney+ subscriptions, which angered alot of the Pixar workers who thought they would be working on more theater releases only to have their projects put on the "cheaper" platform. I also think that some awards require a film to be shown in a theater to qualify for the awards.
So true
Shut up dreamworld fan
@@coachcherokee1488it's true dude. Except it or leave it.
Disney: *Sticks to same formula, puts out mid to mediocre modern movies*
Dreamworks: *Tries different ideas, puts out modern day masterpieces like Puss in Boots 2*
It isn’t hard to see how one is thriving whilst the other suffers.
You don’t even make sense at all
..and then there's Illumination! 😂
@@jonathanwade3882 oh they do..
@@jonathanwade3882 oh it makes sense All right. But the main problem with Disney is how woke they are nowadays. Whether it’s changing stories and their messages or they pump out shitty remakes like mulan. The way I describe Disney is a soulless cash grab company. They still have some good movies but it’s still in the same safe formula. And he’ll at least the bad dreamworks movies are popular for their memes
@@suda_lifts oh. I get it now. Sorry for the misunderstanding yall
I have a feeling that dreamwork decided to make utterly complete garbage(Shrek 3, shark tale, bee movie, boss baby and trolls) or absolute masterpiece (Shrek, Shrek 2, puss in boots the last wish, Httyd trilogy, Kungfu panda trilogy, road to el dorado, megamind and Prince of Egypt) up to their producer's mood at the time.
Sherk
@@MontycelAsherk
You have to watch Spirit, my guy. One of DreamWorks greatest films. Only the 2002 one though, Spirit 2021 kinda sucks
Be honest with yourself. It’s only a cash grab if you hate it. But it’s not when you love it. -_-
Oh come on, why is Boss Baby so hated? I lauged a lot watching this one and I still can't believe how they came up with such an absurd idea to answer the question 'where do babies come from'
1 thing i noticed on Dreamworks is that in nearly every movie they are trying to experiment different demographics in films. Like Teenage Kraken is the next film and many may not be into it. But if it ends up being a better movie than Elemental (Both coming in June 2 weeks apart from each other) then it looks like the experiments a success.
Also I think people are focusing too much on who makes what, if Dreamworks makes great movie that's great people should watch it. If Disney makes great movie that's also great and people should go watch it. Don't focus on a company but on the movie itself, if movie is shit and nobody is watching it then it's sign to company they're doing something wrong. But if movie is great and nobody is watching it then company thinks they're doing something wrong.
Money speaks, so speak to company what you want to watch
I'm not a big fan of the character designs for teenage kraken, but the fact that they basically made egirls the villains is hilarious.
@@realdragon I hope the films good just to give Disney another slap of reality
@@Pokeninja7 Are you hating on Disney just to hate Disney? Dreamworks made shit movies before
@@realdragon Nah. I always liked Disney until 4 years ago. I just think they need to learn some discipline now cause they are doing things that i can't agree with.
dreamworks has its fair share of mid films but when it does good.. it does AMAZING
Illumination: am I a joke to you?
@@superstarbros1.0superstarb38 yes
@@superstarbros1.0superstarb38 pretty much
Feel that they have to make those bad movies that make ends meet
@@superstarbros1.0superstarb38they stopped trying when they saw the first Despicable Me do well, all they care about is merch, just another money hungry studio
I admit, the whole ‘Dreamworks is better than Disney’ think is getting ahead of itself.
But that Puss in Boots sequel and the Super Mario Bros movie should be a huge wake up call for Disney.
Is it really, though? I genuinely can’t think of a single Disney film that matches Prince of Egypt in terms of telling a consistently mature, powerful story. And there isn’t a *single* animated Disney sequel that is of the same caliber as Dreamworks sequels (KFP2, The Last Wish, Shrek 2, HTTYD 2, etc.)
What would you even consider to be Disney’s magnum opus? Lion King, which came out over two decades ago? Last Wish is proof that Dreamworks can STILL make quality animated films whenever they put effort to it. Nowadays, all Disney movies fall under the same bland sludge…or crappy remake…or Encanto
They saying DreamWorks is better than Disney when DreamWorks hasn't won an Oscar for the last 17 years. Why not talk about the studio that made Pinocchio?
@@darkmoney7762 I would say Oscars aren't really telling animation wise. When i sometimes watch oscars i feel like they don't care about this category and i t could be discussed whether they have Disney/Pixar bias.
@@Agaricus_cuscus you mean with the toy story 4? I mean aside from that and Brave, none of the rest are actually questionable on why they won the Oscar. Whether you like it or not, that's the award every animation aims to achieve. Now I repeat, why is no one talking about the studio that made Pinocchio which was an Oscar winner?
Most people saying dreamworks is better are just following what others are saying
I think what induced this whole "studio wars" you say is how Disney started purchasing literally everything recently. Lucasfilm, Marvel, Pixar, Bluesky, 20th Century Fox... when one company grows this big, people kind of start worrying about independent/different view moviemaking and start rooting for the "underdog". I'll always be more critical towards Disney movies, knowing well they have close to infinite amount of resources and should make perfect movies all across the board instead of scuffing their jobs in confidence of remaining in top whatever happens. A good example is how both Turning Red (which was a decent movie btw in my opinion) and Strange World (which was kind of mid ngl) had double the budget of Puss in Boots, yet DreamWorks managed to make something much more unique and memorable with a significant disadvantage. Why? Cause they simply need to put effort into their works. They can't settle for mediocrity the same was Disney does with its lazy remakes. That's why competition is extremely important in the industry, it encourages studios to be more unique and experimental in hopes of catching more attention.
Ykw, you actually made me change my mind about this culture war. Thanks
based opinion 🗿🧃
They won't buy up dreamworks that's for sure, disneywood
They're not an "underdog". Do you even know who owns DreamWorks and Illumination? It's Comcast, the telecom giant that has nothing to do with animation. Comcast tried a hostile attempt to buy Disney years ago, but they failed and ended up buying Universal, and therefore, DreamWorks and Illumination.
Comcast market cap is higher than Disney's, and corporate America does not care about animation, storytelling, or originality. Disney has been in animation for 100 years, and there have always been ups and downs. The people who started DreamWorks are long gone because they sold it. The only thing the high up executives noticed is that Mario, the movie based on an old IP and using a Pixar/Disney look made more money than any original story/original looking animation in a few years.
Frozen II has a scene where Olaf recaps the entire first Frozen movie instead of actually doing something new. Puss In Boots: The Last Wish doesn't even mention the name Humpty Dumpty (Puss's adoptive brother from the first Puss In Boots movie) a single time throughout the entire movie.
Although the film doesn’t mention Humpty, I could imagine a flashback taking place with young Puss’s and Humpty’s interactions with young Goldilocks if the evidence that she grew up in the same orphanage as them is true considering the book she has has Humpty’s and Jack and Jill’s names in the check out list alongside hers.
@@hunterolaughlin That hint lasted less than 30 seconds, so it didn't disrupt the main story.
I wonder if they just forgot about him lmao. Poor Humpty Dumpty.
@@racool911 I doubt Puss would forget his adopted brother. I’m sure even without speaking about him, he still carries memories of him.
@@racool911 Humpty Dumpty was a shit character. I'm glad he wasn't mentioned in the 2nd film.
People keep saying that they can’t understand why Boss Baby is included in the logo and I take it that absolutely none of the people complaining about it have kids. I’ve been a mom for 8 years so naturally, I know lots of other families with little kids and what they like as well. When the second boss baby movie came out, my two daughters could not WAIT to watch it and kept on watching it! I’ve heard of other kids being obsessed with Boss Baby as well! Whether you like it or not, it’s a hit! It’s essentially DreamWorks’ version of Minions mostly in how loud and ridiculous it is. I completely agree that they’ve made much better movies but the numbers and the hype within kids does not lie!!
Well said
True. I don't like some Illumination and Dreamworks movies (Not all because some of their movies are decent), but my 5-year-old and 3 three-year-old second cousins love those movies. Are they good? For me, no, not really, but are they racking in the money, yes.
Boss Baby is like the Rugrats of Nickelodeon that why i love the Boss baby franchise so far he funny but i do t mind of they made the movie, the acstion and comedy quit funny. But that my option
Most of the dregs of society who obsess over these things don't have children and tend to think that everything is aimed at them.
I don’t have kids. I never watched it. I’ll probably only watch it if I’m taking care of kids who wants to see it.
But I agree.
Out of all the sequels Disney has announced, I personally think that Zootopia is the only sequel that holds a lot of promise and probably hope in once again doing sequels right. Zootopia has a massive world they can expand upon and if done right, they can make it wonderful.
Hopefully they don’t make it woke
@@superstarbros1.0superstarb38 I mean if we use the loose standards of that overused word, it probably is.
Theater will be full of furrys
Hope Judy Hopps is pregnant is this one
@@superstarbros1.0superstarb38pretty sure the first movie is "woke" to begin with. Does not mean it's bad. Avatar tlab is woke too. The greatest Miyazakis are woke af too.
Being realistic here, they both have their pros and cons like every other company does. It's not like everyone is perfect far from it, but if it wasn't for Disney firing Jeffery Katzenberg, we wouldn't have got DreamWorks much like Nintendo did with Sony. Now a days, Disney is too afraid to take chances and focuses on the wrong audience for the past several years with Walt Disney Animation to Pixar to even Marvel and Star Wars. DreamWorks, whether you like their films or not, is a little more creative and experimental and takes chances. Whether they succeed or not and whether we like it or not, it's going to make some impact to the company (Looking at you Boss Baby, you don't deserve better and a third sequel).
My point here is, my respects leans towards more to DreamWorks because they tend to be a little more creative and experimental and treat the audiences with some respect. The same cannot be said for Disney, at least not anymore since 2016-2017 to me, as they've been becoming more hateful to it's main audience and it's obnoxious push for political agendas and identity politics each passing year.
This is so true. Disney is too scared to try anything new and they don't want to scare the parents away from their new movies. Both have pros and cons, box office bombs, and underrated movies, but as you said, Dreamworks takes risks with their movies and Disney hasn't done that in a long time. Unless Disney is willing to change or take risks, (and stop with the live-action bull, which they won't) then Disney's animated movies won't be a success. (However, if they continue to have movies like Encanto, then I won't complain)
Can I ask, how Disney "becoming more hateful to it's main audience and it's obnoxious push for political agendas and identity politics each passing year"? I saw main Pixar and DA movies from last years, but Ididnt see something similar. Yes, they reflexed, that minorities exist (becouse, uh, they exist), but Sony or DreamWorks do it too.
Ironically in 2016, Zootopia came out and is a rare case of Disney having their cake and eat it too for animated films with politics but they treated it CAREFULLY. Now the sequel post 2016 is one I fear for
Ugh, not this again! Stop whining about supposed "hateful" behavior and "messaging" from Disney. Its not only nonsence, its hypocritical as well since many of Disneys movies are met with truly "hateful" criticism from rightwing spindoctors.
For that last statement,
1. A lot of the Disney hatedom supports a political agenda themselves
2. So, representation of LGBTQ+ people is automatically pushing for left-wing politics on its own? In that context the same can be said for representation of Blacks, Asians, Arabs, South Asians, First Nations, Jews, powerful women, disabled people, and neurodiverse people! Unless you are a homophobe and that’s where the prejudice ends………………….
Dreamworks and Illumination are on a roll with experimental films. Disney, not so much. They’ve been pretty sucky lately.
Sir DreamWorks is amazing....wtf has illumination done expect for pandering am not saying ips can't be good like spider verse, but Mario is mid not creative and minions and despicable me is where creativity goes and dies.......am so done PPL calling illumination and putting it in a higher pedestal.....no one cares abt Ghibli or most non western animation which make flawless films
@@viswajithsaravanan4419 As much as I love the Mario Movie, I agree that it's very fan-pandering and not the greatest if you're not a huge nintendo boy. But it's still a step in the right direction for them, and I had tons more objective/non-biased fun with it then Strange World and Lightyear. Even Sing 2 I thought was better then them.
And with Studio Ghibli, I think the problem is lack of advertising in the west, I haven't even seen a single film from them on DVD shelves or even advertised in theaters or even the movies themselves in theaters. They were pretty much shafted with streaming services until recently with HBO Max and Netflix. Plus, you're looking at the general public and not the main animation community, Ghibli is treated like the second coming of christ among unprofessional and even professional reviewers.
@@viswajithsaravanan4419 The Mario movie was at least decent because Nintendo knew to keep a close eye on them.
Even if it's painfully average, you must admit the movie is pretty faithful.
Wait, since when did Illumination experiment? Oh yeah right- Never.
Illumination experimenting? Excuse me, but how many Despicable Me films did they make? How many of their films were sequels?
Fun fact: during the production of The Prince of Egypt, it was considered to be the best project to work on if you worked at Dreamworks at the time. If you failed to keep up or impress, you’d be sent off to the dungeon to work on Shrek. And not even kidding, they called this getting “Shrek’t”
“Where’s Jerry? He’s usually here in the morning” “He got Shrek’d”
Everyone's saying the same arguments, but I guess to sum up, Dreamworks feels like the better company right now because the drastic difference between having both amazing and horrible films shows they are at least always trying to be creative. Disney with their remakes and "safe films" on the other hand, in an attempt to cater to the most general of audiences, cater to literally no one, and feel boring and samey.
True, but you should look up the #1 movie right now. Funny how no one’s mentioning them
@@superstarbros1.0superstarb38Sony is doing really well. Most of their catalogue is really terrible, but recent movies have been excellent and groundbreaking. Hopefully that is the direction they will continue on going forward.
Your being unfair in comparing the Disney Company to Dreamwork’s
both Disney and Dreamwork’s are hit or miss nowadays and Disney’s hits like Encanto are amazing
And some of the bad stuff Dreamwork’s does (like Trolls) isn’t that experimental. It’s more made for money
not relevant to the discussion but...
Honestly, Atlantis had the only good "twist villain" Disney ever made. The reveal was foreshadowed properly, where a second viewing or good observation skills are actually rewarded. Maybe Wreck It Ralph too.
Unlike the other examples, where the " reveal" is either completely out of nowhere and then acts like it was being clever (case in point Frozen and Zootopia).
"Unlike the other examples, where the " reveal" is either completely out of nowhere and then acts like it was being clever"
Sonic & the Black Knight, as well.
@@jadebeor eh, Merlina at least got a line of foreshadowing (she lets slip part of her mindset as a villain right before going to see the blacksmith) which is a lot more than what Hans got, but I agree the one scene is nowhere near enough to be a clever twist villain as it's pretty much relies entirely on that one line to try and convince you that her mindset is what the final act says it is.
Roarke from Atlantis gave us plenty of signs that if one misses them, they feel as betrayed as Milo, but if one notices them they see it coming but still feel for Milo, and he did that without even NEEDING to hide his mindset.
"Which isn't true because you didn't get those films anyway"
Shows the main character of turning red twirking
I get Turning Red is supposed to be cringey because the main character is a teen who would be into cringe stuff most teens would be interested in at her age, but it doesn’t make the twerking and gyrating scenes any less painful.
@@hunterolaughlin i was a teen I can say I definitely don't like twerking
@@seycro Everyone was once a teen and a lot of people hate twerking. Your comment is completely useless
@@racool911 i'm saying that AS a teen i already disliked it
I was 16 once. I didn't twerk. I put things up my ass.
Mad respect to this guy for uploading his videos with quality with no problems whatsoever for his content over quantity.
He kinda talks too fast in my opinion
Personally I wouldn't consider Aldone's videos as quality. They're okay topics and opinions, but the content (video/ editing specifically) is quite lacking. I do appreciate the consistent flow of content since that will ultimately grow the channel and help him improve his editing and voice over skills.
@@optimusprime777slap video settings > play black speed > 0.75x
Meh, I feel like his videos are all some variation on "Why Disney sucks (and Dreamworks is better)". Plus you can find his opinions in a million other (and better) videos.
Hard disagree on the Avatar comment, it is not entirely live action. An incredible amount of it is extremely realistic animation.
Listen. I know Avatar is supposed to be that movie where we are like: "Wow, look at this amazing animation and CGI! I'm so immersed into the world!" But, let's be honest. Impressive visuals aren't everything that goes into a good movie and the story and characters are very generic and mid, not very engaging and mostly feel like placeholders that make the movie lose some potential for me.
It's 2023, and every modern action film is full of CGI worlds and characters. Avatar was novel in 2009, but these days everyone sees it for what it really is. Just another sad franchise using spectacle as a selling-point.
@@ordinarylittlebastard3248 totally agree. In fact, it's why I didn't like the video makers comment that Avatar and Puss in Boots shouldn't be compared. It is precisely because Avatar is a movie simply made to be a spectacle rather than a film, that it should be compared to the likes of Puss in Boots. Not in terms of content, but in terms of intentions and execution. Both are sequels, and while one had a much more massive budget and commercial success, failed to tell any story and leave a lasting impact other than how great it looks. While the other sequel had half the budget of its predecessor film, but still managed to inspire and touch on fundamental truths, because it's intent was to better the character arcs... all while also being a damn entertaining film. Obviously, Puss in Boots was still made to make money, but at least it bothered with writing actual characters at the same time.
It is clear which sequel is better, and I think these comparisons are good because it should get people thinking: why should movies that are made purely for the visual spectacle be made when other storytellers and artists, who are not as popular, have actual stories they want to tell? It's 2023, and we should stop giving our viewership to productions that are made simply for money and spectacle, and reward the films instead that want to give their audience a memorable story. Sure, Avatar has pushed technology... but there are far better films that have done the same and were still fulfilling to watch because they had a purpose other than visual prowess (ex: Lord of the Rings, Interstellar, etc...).There was no purpose for Avatar 2 being made other than to get yet another $2billlion+ of revenue pumped into Hollywood, and it will just keep going because the only language these people understand is money. Keep in mind people, there are at least 4 planned Avatar sequels. FOUR. If you think these movies are made for the art, think again
@@kurisucosmo7954 agree with you so much, Puss in Boots and Avatar may be completely different, but they’re still movies, the story, characters, themes/messages should be compared (except for the visuals). Saying that Puss in Boots can’t compare with Avatar because the animation(CGI) is very different is kinda disrespectful, and for me personally, I feel like Avatar getting so much credit without a good story like Puss in Boots is kinda unfair, all of my friends go to watch Avatar, I told them Puss in Boots got higher score on Rotten Tomatoes they should also give it a chance, but they said "Maybe it got higher score because only a few people went to watch this film" ,and when I told them I’m going to watch Puss in Boots, they laughed, it made me feel like l should be ashamed… I also think that some people go to watch Avatar only because it’s popular and made for adult unlike animation. But animation isn’t just for kids, Puss in Boots is the perfect example, why don’t my friends give it a chance. A great CGI doesn’t equals a good movie, and just because it looks real doesn’t mean it’s good either, why does some people think that looking realistic means it’s for adult and that makes it mature, maybe the reason why Disney is making those live action films is because people think this way, just look at the live action The Lion King, it’s bad but somehow made a lot of money. That’s why I think Avatar and Puss in Boots should be compared, and people should support films like Puss in Boots which has a lot of heart put in to the film, films like this deserve more.
Anf Avatar was written more for kids and Puss in boots was written more for adults. Just because one is animated, with fairy tale characters, doesn't mean that one is for kids entertainment.
No matter what film DreamWorks made are either good or bad they always be creative.
@@finalmountain he's a fanboy he's obviously not gonna respond
Is boss baby and trolls actually creative?
@@seilakkkk5252Understood
But new movies don't air on the internet or on dvd
Except on streaming
Unless Disney tries the new animation style sweeping the animation industry rn, they have no shot at the box office with their movies. Sure, I love a good Pixar movie or Disney movie with an emotional story, but people also want a movie with fantastic animation with said story. No, animation does not make a story great but it can help.
That’s why I think Soul is criminally underrated tbh.
And Pixar’s animation isn’t fantastic? I understand the critiques of Disney’s animation since almost all of the characters almost have the same face and aesthetic, but Pixar at least has a *variety* when it comes to character designs and animation styles suited for each film.
@@hunterolaughlin Pixar's animation is fantastic. I'm more talking about straight Disney movies. Turning Red, Luca, Soul, all have fantastic animation and good stories. Disney animated movies try to make it as real as possible, which will get tiring after a while
I really think Disney should balance all animation styles. Photorealistic, innovative, 2D, movies with those styles should be equally produced.
@@henrythef1guy768 Exactly. Animation is an art, it's seen as a genre by many people, including myself. Sticking with one isn't going to work out in the end.
The reason they compared Puss in boots 2 to avatar 2 is because they both took over a decade to make and released on December
I can respect the idea of judging each film individually but there's no denying that Disney films have not been well-received lately with good reason.
I do agree, Disney just feels a bit stale as of late. They haven’t really tried anything too groundbreaking with movies like Luca, Turning Red, Encanto, etc. Like yea, the stories they write are still good and still emotional but nothing that’s truly outstanding. They all kinda feel like the same movie in a way and they don’t really explore risky and out of the box themes anymore. Disney‘s too big to fail at this point with them buying Star Wars, marvel, and literally everything else but they’ve really lost their creative stride cuz of that
Encanto is out standing, it’s a 9/10
the fact you managed to make a whole video about dreamworks without how to train your dragon being mentioned is both brilliant and a lil sad cus httyd is by far my favourite of theirs!
it's the most well known movie from dw idk why he didn't metioned it
Thank you! I hate that people in the film and animation community are creating a studio wars (it's console wars, but it's a film equivalent) to push their hate bias towards a movie they don't like. Can't we just watch movies that studios have to offer us without starting a culture war?
Not when the company's are pushing the message and propaganda in there films wile insulting there costumers. Disney getting into politics is also not helping.
Also,
There are more independent entertainment companies online or abroad to pick over Disney or DreamWorks. There numbers are growing. Long live the iron age.
@@johnjay370 What bad messages are they pushing in your opinion?
@@johnjay370 Oh shut up with that PoLiTIc AgenDa crap. What messages are they sending. Is it minorities existing or a company that doesn't care about politics and just want to pander to audiences when they didn't even ask for it. Take your pick.
@@johnjay370 Lol like Disney would have the balls to get political with their animated projects.
Honestly, the fact that people get butthurt over seeing an LGBTQ+ character is childish asf. Like yeah Disney portrays LGBTQ+ representation for money (at this point) but like there are ways to make LGBTQ+ characters in film likeable and have good storytelling
I’m not bias for any animation studio, but I will say Disney has been tumbling down the stair well and I hope they can get on their feet and actually make good entertainment.
They still have hits like the 9/10 film called Encanto
@@finalmountain yep but I one bad decision has sent them tumbling down a stair well and while I haven’t lose complete hope I it’s very clear to see the difference.
My thoughts on the state of things recently is that Disney has become complacent. It has been THE animation studio for as long as I can remember, producing a lot of great stuff that put them at the top and made them the juggernaut they are today. But that rise also means they feel they don't have to try experimenting anymore from their routine plot formulas because their position is secure, and they can make the same story over and over again while pushing politics on its audience to score some brownie points.
DreamWorks, on the other hand, has been the underdog. They've been willing to try something different in a bid to gain some ground to stand on. Some of it has been good, some has been bad. Some had potential, but never got the audience they deserved. But at least they're trying. The fight on the bridge in Kung Fu Panda? The animators didn't know how to do that. Someone like Disney might've decided to cut that out for fear of it turning out bad, but DreamWorks decided to do their best anyway. and I don't think they've pushed politics into their films beyond maybe a joke or two.
What Disney should be doing is looking at how much DreamWorks is surpassing their current films, see what is working and what isn't, and change their approach. Try something different. Or at least go back to having an actual villain instead of interpersonal problems.
Disney has standards, they either make good or great movies for the most time, while DreamWorks takes risk, they either make garbage or cinematic masterpiece
Disney does make masterpieces too like Lion King or Beauty And The Beast
@@finalmountainThose are rarer nowadays.
@@Lukkak09Dreamwork’s masterpieces are also kinda rare nowadays
When was the last time Dreamwork’s made something as strong as the last wish
“Dreamworks is much better at handling sequels”
Megamind 2: we were not prepared
Turning Red got a lot of hate for no reason even before being released and considering the story themes and animation styles, I think that people making fun of Turning Red but hyping up Ruby Gilman Teenage Kraken are hypocritical.
I don't remember there being any twerking in the trailer for Ruby Gilman.
Ok Recycle Waste, imma get at you later but yeah. People are very hypocritical about anything Disney makes including Pixar. And it’s really sad that all the hate comes from grown adult males.
@@recycledwaste8737 I don't remember there being any twerking in the trailer of Turning Red either. Maybe you watched one I didn't 🤷
@@Anonymous_Gambito The trailer is all we have of DreamWork's movie. We have the entire Turning Red movie. There is twerking in Turning Red. 🤦♀️
@@jonathanwade3882 I just think the twerking is cringey, no need to make so many assumptions. Let people be disappointed in a movie/studio lol
One property that I think was a travesty to not mention is the How to Train Your Dragon series. It is a fantastic trilogy that, even in its worst movie, still really held some of the most emotional moments in the series. It was a true masterpiece of a series and really demonstrates how to grow up with your audience. It was released during the 2010s, the so-called low point of Dreamworks. Failing to mention this series really does a disservice to the studio and those working behind the scenes.
I´m so so glad that someone finally points this out! I was having the same thoughts about the hate against disney and the praise for Dreamworks. I have to admit that Disney slacked a little in past years but that doesn´t undo all the quality films they made before. Same goes for Dreamworks who has released some bangers and some absolute failures. I´m pretty interested what the future holds and how these companies will develop. And I also hope that Dinsey gets a bit braver with the content they produce and I hope Dreamworks keeps up the good work aswell! Thank you so much for pointing out the differences between these companies! I feel the same 🙌
Honestly even though on one hand, there is some creativity from Disney… I honestly feel like they should just give directors who made the likes of amphibia, gravity falls and owl house to make a big budget movie for the big screen. The shows in Disney shows so much creativity and I love them and obsess over it, but the way Disney treats them honestly bugs me
@@skelebonez1349 Not sure if Alex Hirsch is open to collaborating with Disney again if his frustration on the gay male cops not having their relationship onscreen until the final episode says enough.
@@Thomasmemoryscentral I mean yeah fair, but my point still stands. There’s a level of huge quality for the animated show department while quality is the rarity for the films, including in the likes of marvel! That to me feels like a huge issue
I won’t discredit such things like turning red to at least have the balls to talk about puberty and have that be the main driving force for the film, but again, this stuff is few and far between, to Disney they don’t have to try anymore at all, not that they won’t make a quality film, but that they don’t have to try to because they’ll often make a lot anyway
Meanwhile dreamworks and even DC… while yeah it can have its hiccups, there’s a level of love and passion inside them that you don’t see for Disney anymore. Least again, for the films
And it bugs me seeing how they won’t try to have those kinds of people who’d normally do the tv show stuff to do it in theaters because of how much love is put there
Yeah, but... Those videos are reaction to the CURRENT situation 😂 Nevermind past movies
I'm just the same as you, but I personally don't like Disney, not because of the films they make, but it's the piece of shit decisions they made back then which made me hate them.
I really agree with your opinion. DreamWorks isn't perfect like every other animation studio. They have some stinkers, but I think that DreamWorks has a lot more hits than misses, while Disney has tons of hits and misses at the same time. So honestly, I'll be keeping an eye out on the upcoming movies from Disney and DreamWorks, except for Trolls 3.
No one wanted Trolls 3. And here we are....
Dws is like Disneys illegitimate child
@CatchAWave Films, well, those jinging key movies do keep the company afloat
I personally think DreamWorks has more misses than hits but they hit they hit sooo hard it's unbelievable. Disney even at their best isn't anything special
@@chickenabuser5474 Nonsense, Disney’s highs (like Lion King and Encanto) are just as high as Dreamwork’s
Just from what I've observed.
I think the rotten tomato comparison between puss and avatar doesn't quite make sense, but at the same time.
Do people even talk about Avatar 2? The long awaited sequel to the first Avatar?
Everyone talks about Puss in boots the last wish despite everyone thinking it wasnt gonna be anything special for a sequel of the first puss in boots movie that also took a long time for it to release. Puss in boots the last wish has more things to say and memorable.
literally every time I see something about avatar 2 is about how much money it made, never about the movie itself
@seycro For what it's worth, I thought the sequels to both Avatar and Puss in Boots were better than the originals.
“Puss in boots 2 has three distinct villains”
*only shows death
It only has 2. Goldie's group is just the rival team.
@@wakkaseta8351 Well you know what they say: Can't bake a pie without losing a dozen men.
@@wakkaseta8351 it has 3 antagonists, 1 villain. Death is not a villain nor are the bears and goldie, only jack something is a villain.
@@tktspeed1433 Death is definitely a villain. He tried to kill puss before it was his time to die .
Puss in Boots has all 4 types of villains:
Betrayal - Humpty
Redemable - Goldi
Comedy - Jack Horner
Scary - Death Wolf
As ridiculous as the Bee Movie plot is, it’s just ironically fun to watch if you don’t take it seriously
I actually thought this time period was gonna be bad for animation but I turns out that we are actually in an new experimental period. I mean, del torro's Pinocchio, DreamWorks the bad guys and puss in boots and also pay attention to what other, smaller studios like cartoon saloon are doing. I love it!
I loved all of those!
Have you seen Elemental? For an original it was phenomenal IMO. My favorite Pixar film in years.
HOLD UP! Spirit was a box office failure??? I absolutely LOVE Spirit! It's literally my favourite movie of all time
Ok
@@gray_ggk $42 million profit is pretty bad for a movie, but idk say that's still good. They still profited off of it.
I'm glad you mentioned those edits comparing DreamWorks to Disney, it's been annoying since the start
I'm just so tired of seeing those "Disney 🤢 Dreamworks 🥶" shorts
Same here, If I see another video comparing Turning red to Puss in Boots the last wish, I will loose my mind.
Fr, they've both made good movies, get over it
Ikr? They both have hit more misses. People would say Disney has more misses than Dreamworks tho 🙄
@Naufal's Toon World they were never funny. Just blatantly cringe
Exactly, it's like people think DreamWorks has never made a bad film before. I wish yt shorts never became a thing cuz they can be very addictive.
Personally, I think that both Disney and Dreamworks are capable of producing good movies which are unique to them, regardless of how DreamWorks started out. The reason for this is because I found that films like Mulan, Tangled and The Lion King are amazing in terms of their animation, characters and narrative, with DreamWorks achieving the same results with films/ franchises like The Prince of Eygpt, Kung Fu Panda and How to train your Dragon. As such, I don't believe that one studio is superior to the other since both have had their fair share of successes, failures and underrated gems over the years.
The Puss in Botts vs Avatar 2 argument is actually plausible as they're both sequels to films that came out a decade prior and both lasted longer in theaters than expected and made a lot of money.
Though while one was an expensive animated film pretending to be live action with a message that amounted to little more than "save the whales", Puss in Boots was an emotional and action packed journey about coming to grips with life and making the most out of it.
The irony of me getting a disney + ad before the video
Thank you for bringing up the fact people compared Puss in Boots with Avatar: The Way of Water XDDD I never understood why people tried to compare them, I love both movies separately and they're in completely different categories.
Because they are both sequel to a film over a decade ago, both taken 10 years to a make. The difference is, one is a most wanted sequel and other one is a sequel that nobody wanted. But that sequel that nobody wanted has people still watching it in the big screen even after bluray starts to stream it. Nobody is even talking about avatar 2 outside its technology and box office and yet people are still talking about puss and boots for its imagination and storytelling (the things you supposed to talk about when you see a good movie).
@@ragingtomato04 did you just reply because you wanted to make the comparison even though it makes 0 sense?
@@madmouse1016nope I replied because it seeems like you don't understand why people compare avatar 2 to puss and boots. And in what part did it make zero sense to you?
@@ragingtomato04 because- one was animated and the other was live action/CGI, their stories were completely different and dealt with different topics, the only thing going for this argument is that they were released around the same time.
@@madmouse1016Bruh, you know what a computer animation/3D animation is? A continuous CGI, saying avatar 2 is a "live action" is like saying Benedict Cumberbatch playing smaug as "live action" 😂. And no, being the same time of year is not only the point of comparison. As I said, this are both sequels that take over a decade to make. And having a third of the budget that avatar 2 has, with no expectations to be good at all. How come puss in boots has been a way better film? Is that not enough reason to compare to you? are you living in the world that all created movies are equal and should not be compared? I haven't even heard a single person saying "avatar's story is great". It always have been the "technology" and the "blockbuster" 😂.
Puss in Boots 2 felt like a return to form for me, it reminded me of the older animated classics I watched as a kid, with a more updated style and visuals. I had grown a bit bored of the newer animated films, but my little brother convinced me to take him, and I didn’t expect something like that at all.
Please just don’t compare the studios, just compare the movies themselves. Idk, maybe it’s just me
I say it's just human instinct. Kinda like rooting for a sports team
Comparing movies would be a *lot* nicer to see on the internet than comparing studios, I mean, I'd like to see them try and make better movies
Especially when there's a lot of crossovers from the creative team. Like do people actually think everyone from the animation team of dw, don't get hired in Disney??
"What's the matter? Lives flashing before your eyes?"
"No, just one."
*Wish and Elemental takes the scene*
Thank You, It’s about time a UA-camr addressed the “Praise Dreamwork’s and hate Disney” problem.
As someone who prefers live action but has strong opinions and appreciation for animation. I respect Pixar, Ghibli, Dreamwork’s and Disney (Animation studio not the company) equally
The people behind these “Dreamwork’s is better than Disney memes” are obviously biased
‘Completely live action’
Did… did we watch different movies? A MAJORITY of Avatar was animated. I’d say like, 95% at least.
I have a theory, Dreamworks produces the garbage films like Boss Baby and Trolls to invest in their good movies. Really think about it, by farming that kid’s money(Which Illumination has an excessive amount), then can pay their staff and create great movies. Yeah it ruins their reputation a bit, but in the end it’s all about the masterpieces.
Strange world is SO underrated. It was under-advertised, but I saw it recently and thought it was absolutely fantastic.
Same deal with Onward btw. Fantastic movie.
I respect your opinion, but I found both kind of boring LOL
No, they’re not terrible films but also not very remarkable IMO
Granted the “controversy” with Strange World was overblown and ridiculous
I could agree that Disney vs DreamWorks memes do not make sense. I’m glad someone agrees😉
Yeah I don't like the Avatar comparisons because it's not like Avatar bombed. Avatar also got good ratings. They're both good films. Comparing Puss and Velma makes more sense due to their opposing reasons for popularity and for onw trying to be mature and the other actually being mature. The comparison that makes the most sense is Puss vs literally any kids film released in the last 5 years.
There are two kinds of people. Those who think Avatar got good ratings, and those that know money talks in the film industry; and that no one has more money than Disney.
Because they are both sequel to a film over a decade ago, both taken 10 years to a make. The difference is, one is a most wanted sequel and other one is a sequel that nobody wanted. But that sequel that nobody wanted has people still watching it in the big screen even after bluray starts to stream it. Nobody is even talking about avatar 2 outside its technology and box office and yet people are still talking about puss and boots for its imagination and storytelling (the things you supposed to talk about when you see a good movie).
@@ragingtomato04 are you like copy pasting this same thing over and over again ?
i swear, if disney tries to buy dreamworks. they gonna ruin it
I’m so glad someone pointed this out. Yeah we get it, Dreamworks is “dominating” Disney and is taking the crown. But is it really worth making a whole culture war out of it? It’s like Sony Vs Xbox while Sony being the best because it has more variety. Android vs IPhone but you praise iPhone because of the quality of the camera (also sounds like a stupid comparison). Nickelodeon vs Cartoon Network (but at least this one makes sense because the only good thing Nick has is SpongeBob rn while Cartoon Network actually puts effort in their shows). But in all seriousness, this war has gone too out of hand and if Disney is kid friendly, these “adults” shouldn’t be complaining about kids movies to begin with. It’s not bad, it’s just not for you. It isn’t kid friendly, it’s just not suitable for ppl like you because you think you’re too old for it. Remember Dreamworks made lots of childish movies compare to every Pixar and Disney films. At this point, we need to go back to when movies were just enjoyable by a variety of audiences cuz I sure don’t remember people hating SharkTales,Trolls, boss baby, and shrek 3 until now (well I actually despise shrek 3
I do agree with you on console war and android v iphones because both of them are good products so their no point in fighting But in the case of Disney it makes sense . You have said cartoon network and nickelodeon comparison makes sense cuz one side is putting effort and other side isn't . Same thing could said about Disney and DreamWorks . Also very hypothetical of you to complain adults criticizing kid's movie yet you are saying Nickelodeon doesn't put effort into their cartoons made for "kids".
@@chickenabuser5474well Nick has only downfalls since the goat shows like Fairly odd parents ended and teh loud house while Disney yeah they are failing but they atleast make sometimes good content not often but atleast sometimes
@@chickenabuser5474 nice way to ignore the statement i was giving out. Plus, i never try to say that nic having less variety was "childish", im just saying that they been focusing too much on live action sitcoms. Plus they keep cancelling some of their good shows and only got ones ive lost interest in besides spongebob.
I cant speak about how people think Dreamworks is better than Disney in every way.
I can say that Dreamworks is actually willing to take risks whereas Disney seems to be playing it safer and safer every year.
The *fact that they recycle all their more successful animated titles into live action rereleases and the near absence of actual (good) villains shows their unwillingness to step outside their comfort zone. It just seems they put up too many barriers in their creativity.
I think this overall makes Dreamworks the better studio. Not because EVERYTHING they do is just better but more of the philosophy behind how they approach animation and storytelling.
And as for the rivalry thing, although petty... competition is a *good thing especially if it motivates you to do better than your rival.
Illumination: am I a joke to you?
@@superstarbros1.0superstarb38 Illumination is pretty mid if I am being honest .
@@chickenabuser5474 I’m mainly just referring to the Mario movie
Dreamwork’s is better than Disney in some way’s; NOT NEARLY EVERY WAY, stop being biased
finally a dreamworks vs disney comparison which isn't just blatantly homophobic
@GrayGGK exactly how is it any different then kids seeing heterosexual characters?
Kids are brain dead. They understand things when explained
Hell Mr. Rogers was a showed aimed at very young kids, and it had a whole episode about racism and other such topics.
Same with a lot of other shows aimed at kids.
Kids are capable of understanding a lot if it's explained to them and them being taught about things early has been repeatedly shown to help them better handle meeting such people in their life and not being terrible because they see them as different.
True. A lot of times these memes were just an excuse to call the mere existence and visibility of gay or non-white people "woke propaganda" and consider that a bad thing because...? Most of these people probably don't even know what the word "woke" means or where it originally came from.
@@gray_ggk it's not weird, it's just not as common, and if you thinks its inappropriate that's a problem with you
I like both Disney and DreamWorks’s animated films. Both companies with Disney and Dreamworks both what’s hits and misses. There are some movies that I like from both Disney and Dreamworks that others may like or dislike, or others that they like or dislike, that I may not like or dislike in that sense. If I’m being honest, they both have it’s uphills and downhills at the same time, which happens in many franchises and companies. I think they are both great companies.
Why must there always be a Dreamworks vs Disney issue? Why can't we just enjoy both?
I remember watching Rise of the Guardians and being so in love at how the team at Dreamworks rendered the ice (not to mention feathers and sand and all the wonderfully weird character designs), it was so beautiful and creative, I'm still in awe of it today. Frozen truly seemed subpar to me after that.
Tw: Bad English
I remembered seeing those videos whit ”Disney 🏳️🌈🤮 vs Dreamworks 😎💪” edit, and I was a bit pissed of because those people completely ignore Baby boss 2 and Trols 2 movie existing while Disneys Encanto, Lucka and turning red are actually good and enjoyable. So I made decision to write comment…
Moral: Don’t say to dreamworks fans that puss in boots and deaths from it are furry, even though it’s true
+ I seen some people making Disney vs illumination edits and they are whit serious face saying that freaking minions is good movie 💀
++I like Disney new mermaid vs Ruby edits, because Disneys life action remakes are trash whit dark CGI that makes loved fairytales look like national geographic documentary filmed with money earned from a lemonade stand, that doesn’t even tell new stories, and people should instead of giving them more money go to teenage kraken movie
Because western LGBT people are freaking toxic and annoying. I'm LGBT myself tho from Asia, but my god the "inclusive" western LGBT people has doubted my sexuality wayyy more than the so-called "bigots." Why the doubt? Coz I didn't agree with them. They literally "you don't agree with us? You're not one of us"-ed me. As if I need their permission to be myself.🙄
Plus westerners are so quick to call anyone that hates the Disney live actions racists. Like really? It can't be because it sucks? Americans are so caught up with their echo chamber they don't relaize that compared to the world, they're the minority.😂
The issue I have is that people raise Dreamworks on pedestal just because of puss in boots. The shit on Disney and try to find smallest things to shit on while some of their arguments can be applied to Dreamworks as well.
_Disney doesn't have villains anymore_ that doesn't mean move is bad just because Disney moved away from villains, i loved turning red, Pixar made Inside out which people loved.
_Raya and last dragon is culturally wrong_ Kung-fu panda is culturally wrongs, it's not Chinese culture but how Americans see Chinese culture and nobody cares because it's great movie.
i don't mind Disney moving away from villains, there's definitely much more to explore when there is no bad guy and I know good guys will always win. not every movie Dreamworks made was a hit: home, trolls, they milked Shrek and Madagascar to the point where they put random shit. People treat Dreamworks like everything they make is absolute masterpiece
And honestly most of the time I don't even know who made what I just try to enjoy the movie
It's also hypocritical for extreme dw fans to judge Disney for having lgbtqia characters and representation on their films, when dw tv animations have MAIN CHARACTERS who are one.
@@brimmedhathoe4392 Now that you mention it did DW had gay character? Any character, main, secondary or background?
Sure! Adora, the main character of She-ra and the Princesses of Power is lesbian. Benso Mekler, a secondary character from Kipo is gay. There are many characters from the former show that are lgbtqia+ too. Dreamworks also did Voltron Legendary Defender though personally, I was not too fond of the representation of those characters.
@@brimmedhathoe4392 Honestly I've never heard of those, I'm more into movies than series
@@realdragon Yeah that's alright
I feel like every time there's a Disney vs Dreamworks video on UA-cam, they always put Puss In Boots: The Last Wish against... Strange World. Like give Disney a fair chance and put up one of their best recent movies like Luca or Encanto. All I wanted to say.
Newest against newest what's the Problem?
@@miimiibeschde4818Ok Elemental vs Ruby Gillman
I'm a adult I actually learned things from puss in boots 2
Something that you neglected to mention was Chapek was actively sabotaging Disney Animation because he hates the medium. He screwed with Strange World and made sure it had the worst possible marketing campaign where people had no idea what it was about beyond the strange imagery.
Though, Strange World is was rather meh movie. It suffered from the same issue as Frozen 2 in which it could not have people be bad. It also didn't seem to know who it wanted to be the main character, the father or the son.
Disney should get back into the villain (and not the twist villain) business. They were so good at it and a villain really helps to keep a story tight.
To be fair, Disney for the most is passing out of their phase of the "Twist Villain" and have near completely moved into their "Interpersonal Drama and Trauma, no real bad guys, because everyone has a complicated story" Which I enjoy better than stupid Twist Villains that you only know are evil for 5 minutes of a film, but still a whole lot worse than making a great villain that you Love to Hate.
Now that Ruby Gilman has broken Dreamwork’s winning streak, the annoying Disney vs Dreamwork’s trend should die down; at least a little
I just wanna like both of them, this war between animation giants should be a friendly competition in my opinion, where they all learn from each other in order to make themselves better.
Disney: makes terrible Sequels
DreamWorks: Makes iconic trilogies
Both companies are not perfect but one definitely stomps the other when it comes expanding lore and characters.
I guess you forgot about Shrek 3 or boss baby 2 or trolls 2. DreamWorks makes terrible cash grab sequels too. Be a little less biased
@@kenanbroersma709 That's what happens when you take risks. You either get absolute trash or undeniable masterpieces.
I'll take that over safe, by-the-books movies any day of the week.
@@recycledwaste8737 So when DreamWorks makes bad sequels, it's risk taking but when disney makes bad sequels, they're just bad?
@@kenanbroersma709 No. Disney doesn't simply make bad movies. They make uninspired bland trash, which is far worse. Uninspired films can even be "good" on a technical level, while still feeling hollow and lifeless.
A bad film fails on a technical level. An uninspired film fails on an artistic level. Disney films are the one thing a movie should never be: *boring.*
@@recycledwaste8737 There are plenty of disney sequels that aren't necessarily uninspired just look at TS4 and Incredibles 2. Both of them are terrible movies. They have good ideas, but terrible execution. Dreamworks is the same way. They make blatant uninspired cash grabs too. Shrek the 3rd for example. Bro just because dreamworks made a good movie last year doesn't meant you have to hate Disney animation studios or Pixar. They all have their strengths and weaknesses. Dreamwokrs isn't perfect either.
“I consider the Bee Movie as one of the worst movies of all time.”
*I feel a disturbance in the force…*
Yeah everyone's said it already but Winnie the Pooh (2011) was Disney's actual final 2D theatrical release. Most people forgot about it because it had the rotten luck of releasing the same weekend as the last Harry Potter film and was predictably mutilated at the box office
DreamWorks trying new things and breaking boundaries is actually a good thing. Obviously they're not gonna have success with the first two movies or so. But once they figure out the formula. You know you boutta get a banger. Curiosity and innovation will always be ahead of the curve.
I love these DreamWorks animated films and there are some good Disney films too.
Some day Disney is gonna have to wake up and learn that doing nothing but soulless remakes, and boring sequels isn’t going to keep your audience
Company that makes stuff for kids vs Company that makes stuff for slightly older kids😭☠️
Use your brains
They both make movies for kids and adults
I liked the Bible movies from DreamWorks and I think it would be cool to see one based on revelation or David vs Goliath or Samson
I highly doubt we’ll get another animated film based on a biblical story considering how sensitive some modern audiences are to certain subject matters in the Bible. For example, I highly doubt you can do an animated adaptation of King David without including the part where he lusted after his friend’s wife and sent him away to war to die so he could marry her or even an adaptation of Abraham where he has sex with his wife’s Egyptian handmaiden by his wife’s orders to have a son/heir early instead of waiting for his promised son/heir from God.
I know I’m gonna likely regret mentioning this due to their recent treatment towards it, but DreamWorks technically own VeggieTales
Universal technically owns VeggieTales.
@@traviscunningham7062 that’s what I thought it might have been. Although I assumed that the fact it’s previous owners Classic Media, which DreamWorks Animation bought before it was then bought by Universal.
If I could pick just one bible story for dreamworld to turn into a movie I would pick the book of Esther.
It has everything that would make an awesome movie. A attempted assassination, an evil advisor with hilarious laugh at moments, an awesome main character who checks off modern studios need for a strong female protagonist while also being feminine.
The best part is they could match the name with their previous bible movies and call it the queen of Persia.
I find it jarring that people think Disney is done for after Strange World. If we isolate Disney Animation from the rest of Disney, then Disney animation is doing just fine. They have always made some bad films, so Idk why y’all are freaking out over this. And less y’all forget Encanto, amazing film, was less than 2 years ago
Kai can beat any disney villains!
Does Monstro count?
not bill cipher tho
Who?
@@JymboslicxHe's the Kung Fu Panda 1 villain.
@@FH4Player6397 You mean Kung Fu Panda 3? 1 is Tai Lung
Dreamsworks and Disney feel like the Resident Evil and Silent Hill franchises. Both Dreamworks and the Resident Evil games created both bad and good works, but their good works are absolutely amazing. Both Disney and Silent Hill used to make good works, and now they seems incapable of understanding the concept of passion and art.
Did you forget about Joseph: King of Dreams (2000), El Dorado (2000), and Spirit (2002)? 2:23
I’m pretty sure Joseph was a DVD only release (it never made it to theaters) he mentioned El Dorado, and spirit is 3D, not 2D.
@@MontycelA The original Spirit movie was 2D.
The worst thing is that in these comparison videos they don’t even put any arguments. They just put better music for the one they like with good emojis and they put bad music for the one they hate with bad emojis. Also, they always make sure to choose the worst parts of the movie for the bad ones. For example, Turning Red, they always use the twerk scene as if it defines the whole movie. These people have no arguments and they think that putting the good part of the music on the « good » studio will make it look better.
That remembers me these edit with people comparing modern days vs the past, in the case where the past was way better. But not the past like the 80s, no no. The past like the Middle Ages, Jesus Christ era, the 19th century etc…
« Ah yes, things were much better back then when we could murder each other for religion, when the majority of the children were dying in their infant years and when women did not have rights back then. Such good time and memories 🥺🥰. But Modern times where more and more people are having freedom, when you can finally marry the person you want in some countries without being hated for that, when you don’t have to be killed because you don’t believe in God, when racism, sexism, antisemitism and homophobia are finally starting to be judged, nah I hate Modern Times. It sucks so much. »
I should make an edit of this one day.
Yeah. I agree. Past has it’s goods and it’s bad and same for Modern day, it has his goods and his bad. But comparing those two and absolutely hating on one of them will not change anything. I like both Past and Modern day. Somedays, I wished I had lived during the Antiquity and other days, I am happy and glad to be born today. Things are grey, not black or white. And I feel like some people forgot it.
Ps: Sorry for my bad English, it’s not my first language.
Have to agree, seen a few of those comparisons videos and I was confused what they were even about.
Though one Madd it clear they took issues with two male characters standing next to each other without any context which leaves a pretty clear message on something they took issue even if theu didn't provide a spread of context for that one.
I wonder how many people who judge these movies by just one scene have even seen the movies.
Dreamworks is more "Juvenile" fun and just seeing how far they can go with family films while making sure they don't hurt anyone. And unlike Disney, they were willing to do something new, not remake them and don't force diversity with their films.
I just hope that in the Shrek 5 movie, once Disney buys DreamWorks, all the Official Disney Princes and Princesses from their respective movies appear, especially all the characters from Rise of the Guardians movie, from Frozen movies, from How to Train Your Dragon movies, from Brave movie, from Tangled movie, from Moana movie, from Raya and the Last Dragon movie, from Encanto movie and the most important character in the movie of The Little Mermaid 2: Return to the Sea, Melody, the daughter of Prince Eric and Princess Ariel, and thus, they will be the new main characters of the Shrek 5 movie so that they help Shrek, Princess Fiona, Donkey, Dragon, Puss in Boots, Kitty Softpaws, Perrito, Prince Lancelot, Princess Tiffany, King Artie, Princess Guinevere, the children of Shrek and Princess Fiona: Fergus, Farkle and Felicia, the children of Donkey and Dragon: Bananas, Parfait, Peanut, Eclair, Coco and Debbie and the others to defeat Rumpelstiltskin, Death and all the Official Villains of Disney and DreamWorks, as the Evil Queen, Lady Tremaine, Drizella Tremaine, Maleficent, Marina del Rey, Ursula, Gaston, Forte, Jafar, Sa'luk, Governor Ratcliffe, Shan Yu, Doctor Facilier, Mother Gothel, Zhan Tiri, Te Kā, Tamatoa, the Red Death, Drago Bludvist, Grimmel the Grimmel, Mor'du, Prince Hans, Pitch Black, the Druun, the Soldiers and Morgana, and to prevent Rumpelstiltskin, Death and the other Official Villains of Disney and DreamWorks from ruling and destroying the kingdom of Princess Fiona and King Artie called Far Far Away, Shrek along with his wife named Princess Fiona will need help from their new friends which are the Official Disney Princes and Princesses, as Prince Florian, Princess Snow White, Prince Charming, Princess Cinderella, Prince Philip, Princess Aurora, Prince Eric, Princess Ariel, Prince Adam, Princess Belle, Prince Aladdín, Princess Jasmine, Prince John Smith, Princess Pocahontas, Prince Li Shang, Princess Fa Mulan, Prince Naveen, Princess Tiana, Prince Flynn Rider, Princess Rapunzel, Maui, Queen Moana Waialiki, Hiccup Haddock, Princess Mérida, Kristoff Bjorgman, Queen Anna, Jack Frost, Princess Elsa, Princess Raya, Princess Mirabel Madrigal, Anastasia Tremaine and Melody, although in reality, Melody is the first and only that she is not a true Official Disney Princess along with Anastasia Tremaine, because Anastasia Tremaine is not born of royalty, while, Melody made her debut in the movie of The Little Mermaid 2: Return to the Sea and it is also because she is the first and only daughter of an Official Disney Princess, but Shrek, Princess Fiona, Donkey, Dragon, Puss in Boots, Kitty Softpaws, Perrito, Prince Lancelot, Princess Tiffany, King Artie, Princess Guinevere, the children of Shrek and Princess Fiona: Fergus, Farkle, and Felicia, the children of Donkey and Dragon: Bananas, Parfait, Peanut, Eclair, Coco and Debbie and the others also need Anastasia Tremaine and Melody's help to protect and save their kingdom called Far Far Away away from Rumpelstiltskin, Death and the other Official Villains of Disney and DreamWorks, because Anastasia Tremaine is now a good person, while, Melody is the daughter of Prince Eric and Princess Ariel, but in the Shrek 5 movie, I also want to see the death of Queen Lillian, because since her husband named King Harold passed away in the Shrek 3 movie, she has felt heartbroken and that caused his own death in his kingdom called Far Far Away, and all the inhabitants of Princess Fiona and King Artie's kingdom called Far Far Away are saddened by the death of Queen Lillian, because now she is with her husband named King Harold in heaven, and now they have lost their queen, that means now the kingdom of Far Far Away needs a new queen and King Artie said that his love interest, girlfriend, fiancée and former classmate from Worcestershire school called Princess Guinevere would be the one to be the new Queen of Far Far Away, so King Artie decided to return to his old school called Worcestershire along with Shrek, with his older cousin Princess Fiona, with Donkey, with Dragon, with Puss in Boots, with Kitty Softpaws, with Perrito, with the children of Shrek and Princess Fiona: Fergus, Farkle and Felicia, with the children of Donkey and Dragon: Bananas, Parfait, Peanut, Eclair, Coco and Debbie and with the others to meet again with their friends from their school who are actually Prince Lancelot, Princess Tiffany and their love interest, girlfriend and fiancée Princess Guinevere to take them back to their kingdom called Far Far Away, and in the Shrek 5 movie, I also want to see the romance of all the Official Disney Princes and Princesses from their respective movies, especially the romance of Maui and Queen Moana Waialiki, the romance of Hiccup Haddock and Princess Mérida, the romance of Jack Frost and Princess Elsa, the romance of Prince Lancelot and Princess Tiffany and the romance of King Artie and Princess Guinevere, because I think in the Shrek 5 movie, Maui will be Queen Moana Waialiki's love interest, boyfriend and fiancé, while Hiccup Haddock will be Princess Mérida's love interest and boyfriend, Princess Tiffany will be Prince Lancelot's love interest, girlfriend and fiancée and Princess Guinevere will be King Artie's love interest, girlfriend and fiancée, because Queen Moana Waialiki is going to fall in love with Maui, Princess Mérida is going to fall in love Hiccup Haddock, Princess Tiffany is going to fall in love with Prince Lancelot and Princess Guinevere is going to fall in love with King Artie, but they don't know how to tell them their feelings towards them and neither how to win their hearts, because every time Queen Moana Waialiki gets too close to Maui when it comes to true love, she gets very nervous with him, while which in the case of Princess Mérida is also the same, because whenever Princess Mérida gets too close to Hiccup Haddock when it comes to true love, she also gets very nervous with him, in the case of Princess Tiffany it is also the same, because whenever Princess Tiffany gets too close to Prince Lancelot when it comes to true love, she also gets very nervous around him, and in the case of Princess Guinevere too, because every time Princess Guinevere gets too close to King Artie when it comes to true love, she also gets very nervous around him, but luckily for them, Princess Fiona will help Queen Moana Waialiki to win the heart of Maui, also Princess Mérida to win the heart of Hiccup Haddock, also Princess Tiffany to win the heart of Prince Lancelot and also Princess Guinevere to win the heart of King Artie, and I also want that in the Shrek movie 5, Jack Frost will be Princess Elsa's love interest and boyfriend, because Jack Frost leaves fall in love with Princess Elsa, but he doesn't know how to tell her his feelings and how to win her heart, because every time Jack Frost gets too close to Princess Elsa when it comes to true love, he gets very nervous with her, but fortunately for him, Shrek will help Jack Frost to win the heart of Princess Elsa, except Princess Raya and Princess Mirabel Madrigal, because now they will be the only Official Disney Princesses who do not need to have love interests and who can remain single forever, and I also say the same for Melody, the daughter of Prince Eric and Princess Ariel, because like Princess Raya and Princess Mirabel Madrigal, she doesn't need a love interest either, but in the Shrek 5 movie, I also want to see the rivalry between King Artie and Queen Anna because they both want to compete in a challenge to see who is the best monarch a of a kingdom, that is, the best ruler of a kingdom, because both want to do what is best for their own kingdom, because King Artie wants to do what is best for his kingdom called Far Far Away because now he is the new King of Far Far Away and Queen Anna wants to do the best for their kingdom called Arendelle because now she is the new Queen of Arendelle, but at the end of the Shrek 5 movie, King Artie and Queen Anna become best friends in the world, because at the end of the Shrek 5 movie, they both learned from their mistakes that they have made since their challenge to compete to see who is the best monarch of a kingdom, that is, the best ruler of a kingdom, and that at the end of the Shrek 5 movie, King Artie and Princess Guinevere see their first true love kiss and that they become a romantic couple, just like Prince Lancelot and Princess Tiffany, and also that at the end of the Shrek 5 movie, Maui, Hiccup Haddock, Kristoff Bjorgman, Jack Frost, Prince Lancelot and King Artie become the new official members of the Official Disney Princes, while Queen Anna, Princess Elsa, Princess Mirabel Madrigal, Princess Tiffany and Princess Guinevere become the new official members of the Official Disney Princesses and that one day, Princess Tiffany will be the wife of Prince Lancelot and that they have a son and a daughter, that is, a family in the future, and that also Princess Guinevere is the wife of King Artie, that they also have a son and a daughter, that is, a family and that she becomes the new Queen of Far Far Away in the future.
The Bad Guys and Puss in Boots 2 are my favorite animated movies in recent years.
I honestly feel like Disney could do some good to itself by going back to the classic 2D animation they had before, even if just for one movie. It'd be a change from the 3D animation now, it'd stand out. Not to mention that it's so smooth to watch. Most people I know miss that type of animation it's not like great things can't be done with it.
This entire thing could be summarized as "They make good movies when they actually focus on the story and not trying to squeeze as much money as possible from it". If you focus on the story then you can get good results, but when you create a movie which is more focused on inflicting a message, you more often then not get a flop.
Like in comparison, Puss in Boots 2 did one of the best stories of it's time of release, meanwhile they are also producing TV series like "Dragons: The Nine Realms" which apparently every video I get recommended on is a video that hates on it. The New movie focused on making a good story, while the TV sequel/Spin-off is seemingly terrible because it's likely just a cash grab.
Luca and Red Panda are not bad movies, it just doesn't feel like a Pixar movie.
I know Boss Baby is bad, but i like the funny scenes.
They aren’t bad, but the problem is that they aren’t good movies either. I almost fell asleep during Luca and (maybe only because I’m a boy) I didn’t really like turning red as I found it obnoxious.
Do you even notice in Luca and Turning Red the parents are always the villain 💀💀💀💀
@@blackskyboii No becouse it isnt true. Luca's parents are loveful and brave, but strict and prejudiceful. They learn about their mistakes, like majority of support characters, and main characters learn about their own mistakes. Luca!s parents arent perfect, so they can grove. Yes, they have conflict with Luca (who never have conflict with parents?), but kid friends have conflicts too. It is normal, that characters have conflicts. Conflict between Luca and parents start story, but disapper to majority of film and is resolved nearly after return to story. They arent villians. Ercole is villian, he is teenager bulling children for own fun, cant learn about own prejudices, act against protagonists majority of movie, and he defeated of climax.
Yes, Mei's mom is a villian of Turning red. But 1) she still has positive motives, and she is reformed on the end. She is more antagonist that villian. 2) It is movie about puberty, strict parent as a antagonist is believable, relatable and symbolic, 3) it is just mom, not parents, mei's father isnt villian, he is important support character, just with short showtime.
@@michaelkolarik6189 I honestly don't give a duck about Luca. Like I honestly forgot what happened in Luca. I like Luca but not my personal favourite. I love Turning Red because I watched it twice. I wish Disney/Pixar could do so much more then just family trauma, and horrible live action filled with woke. I grew up watching dreamworks movies then I was with Disney.
The reason I feel people compare Disney to dreamworks is because dreamworks is bringing more quality and not quantity to their films compared to Disney as a whole. Sure turning red and luca are good films, but by the likes of Pixar that to me isn’t a good thing. Because quality feels like the minority in films. And it’s not like there’s no possibility for Disney to not make a quality film! Looking at the animated show department, they can DEFINITELY make something iconic with owl house, amphibia, gravity falls and others. But disneys actively tried screwing those projects up one way or another in favor of the endless slip of marvel films, Star Wars films, live action remakes and what have you
(I’m not a marvel or Star Wars hater, but they’ve kinda fell off. Things like spiderman no way home was amazing tho)
I am a child in the way that I don't watch a lot of live action, and I like to watch mostly animation for my entertainment.
Maybe its because I like to see the fantasies people make?
But the more recent animated movies have disappointed me. That chain was broken by The Last Wish.
I prefer animated over live action because there aren't really many, if any limitations
Sure, live action is impressive with some things that go on, but in the end its limited by what humans can do
Avatar completly live action? My sweet sweet child regardless what pretencious people call it to feel supiriour for not liking cartoons. Avatar is nearly all CGI it's literally an animation technique. Disneys Dinosaurs, A Christmas Carol and Lightyear are as much live action as Avatar or the Lion King remake. It's the same process just with the directors going "make it more realistic" or "make it more stylized".
Avatar is basically Marry Poppins jumping in the Cartoon world but becoming a cartoon herself and only a few others stay live action.
Wow what a twist
Dreamworks the immature studios who couldn’t take things serious is taking this whole thing serious
Disney the serious studios who act mature acts really immature
Shhhhhh don’t worry, Pixar will help them out
Uh....Prince of Egypt? Chicken Little?
Dreamworks vs Disney animation. Dreamworks is part of Universal Pictures which is part of NBCUniversal which is part of Comcast
The truth is Dreamworks is a roller coaster in terms of quality. Some movies are great, others are average. But overall, Dreamworks is more likely to take chances than Disney. It was the reason why they were created in the first place.
tHe tRuTh iS, dReAmWoRkS iS a rOlLeR cOaStEr my guy, have you been using this line from other commenters cuz I sure have seen this so many goddamn times
@@jonathanwade3882 nope. That is actually my thoughts. Ever since the mid-Paramount era they have been like this.
People forget that Dreamworks made The Prince of Egypt which is one of the greatest animated movies of all time that tends to get overlooked nowadays.
Disney: makes good movies and mid movies alike
Dreamworks: makes good movies and mid movies alike
Internet: Dreamworks is better in eVeRY WaY
Internet: old Disney was so much better
Old Disney: *Racist stereotypes*
To be fair to old Disney that kind of stuff was more acceptable back then
@@SophieSelberg-bk2xy so why can’t stuff today be more acceptable?
@@SophieSelberg-bk2xy actually forget that. I kinda know why now but, ehhhhhh
"The problem" is that there is no contest now. At all. I rest my case.
Those video edits people make of Dreamworks being superior than Disney and Pixar because of the quality of content being released. Like, calm down folks; Turning Red isn’t THAT BAD of a film. And besides, Trolls 3 and Boss Baby 3 is in the works, two movie franchises I don’t like. Those kind of people are annoying and not worth listening to unless they come up with a coherent argument.
I don't have much hatred towards their not so famous movies like boss baby, trolls, etc., sometimes the silliness of childlike trash of it makes me laugh. It's a stupid movie, but I sometimes need childish and corny stuff to watch to balance it all. And as long as Dreamworks keep making these masterpieces like the last wish, then I don't mind them making a cash grab movie with toilet jokes. That company needs money, and I don't want them gone 😅.
Also, the first time I've watched boss baby was with my siblings, and we actually enjoyed the silliness and thought how stupid this movie was. But we still had fun, trolls too. It's fun watching trash cartoons with the family, lol.