He's definitely more confident with this than I am. I thought about trying it with just myself but I just can't work up the nizuts to do it. Thanks for watching.
After watching this, it's definitely not only easier and safer but also less wear and tear on tow vehicle suspension to just use a quality bike trailer.
@@aKjohn8798 NOT when you COUNT THE COST of having your expensive Motorcycle FALL OFF the back of the vehicle because the "trailer hitch" CANNOT support the WEIGHT of the bike!
I appreciate this update video on the hauler. I have an 09 RK and noticed that you used your RK to demonstrate loading/hauling. Thank you for your comment about those of us who served. One day, I'd like to have a celebratory bike ride made up of veterans on a long ride. That would be a fun ride. Ride safe and have a fine weekend. 👍🏽🤠 7/8/23
Awesome video I was always doubting the capability of this unit but now that I need one I'm absolutely confident that my 630 lb bike will sit there just fine for a couple hundred mile trip.. thank you
Thanks for the review. I use the black widow and it works fine for sport and adventure bikes. But I need something for a bike in the 600 plus range and I'm glad to see there is an option. I get why people on here are nervous, but they stay up there well.
A Class 3 hitch, even frame mounted, has tongue weight limits of 600-800 lbs depending on the manufacturer of the hitch. PLUS, you have 4 feet of tubing sticking out the back, holding your investment, and acting as a long lever. I'm not sure I understand how this is safe at those weights. I see that it works, but dang, that looks sketchy to me.
not only that, but in one sense, it's like a weighted trailer hitch that doesn't have anything that shifts weight back to the front axle for steering and handling control that you would have of you used an equalizing hitch on a towed trailer... so tell me how the differential is mitigated....
Agreed….. with tongue weight varying between 600-800 lbs and with the lever arm further away from the vehicle cannot see how this is safe for one’s 800-1,000lb Harley Davidson! With the vehicle suspension bouncing and hitting dips in the road I cannot see this configuration of hauler and Harley working for any duration of increased mileage!
A 500 lb. adv bike is a load on a hitch mount rack. A road king at 700lb. plus is nuts. Do yourself and others a favor and buy a trailer. Bouncing from the road can increase the load factor 3 times or more. @@stanztman68
I have a sidestand rest that goes in the hauler’s receiver. I don’t see a locking in type front chock working because you have to horse the bike backwards to get it out of the chock. Learning to take your bike for a walk under it’s own power is a useful skill. Start learning on flat ground. Thanks for the video.
So many things can go wrong with this process, all it really needs is a good wheel chock to eliminate 90% of the risk with dumping the bike on the ground or into the tailgate. Not sure how many 1/2 ton trucks can carry 800 lbs. plus with a 2 inch receiver.
If Joe Hauler would add an adjustable wheel chock like most flat towable trailer have it would make loading & strapping your bike down 100 times easier. The wheel chock will hold the bike upright while you strap it down. Just a thought
Clint, it is Gerry, and OMG I was looking into a trailer to pull my bike and I have a 1999 FLHR... but I have a car and will have to do research. I loved both videos and may have to chat with you at Motorcycle Monkey. I was blown away that MM has a UA-cam... Now I have a lot of content to watch!! Meanwhile I am really enjoying that Christmas blend coffee! See you later!
Hey Gerry, thanks so much for watching and for your kind words about the videos. So glad you like the coffee. Be sure to check the tongue weight capacity on your vehicle. I can ask questions that you may have as well if you need me to do that in regards to the hitch. Hope all is well and now I am subscribing to your channel.
@@MotorcycleMonkey very cool! Been a while since I done any content... I keep thinking about doing stuff, but just been lazy about it. Yes, I was wondering about if the car can handle this lift. I saw another thing called The Original Slick Wheelie. Looking at options for a car that I have not even installed a tow hitch to yet.
You guys need to design an adjustable aluminum bar to brace between the top of tailgate (or coming up from the bumper) to the side of the bike to hold it steady, while attaching the ratchet straps. That would make this an easy 1-man process. And it would greatly simplify the reverse process of taking straps off the bike to remove it from the Hauler at your destination.
My thought exactly! Puts the front wheel in a real wheel dock so u can be confident, let go and begin your strap down process🤷🏼♂️. Its such a great product otherwise for us guys with heavy bikes…..i cant believe the wheel dock aspect of the hauler isn’t the most important part of the idea of hauling 1000lb bikes.
nice idea, my Deuce weighs just under 500. What I see this is a 2-man job. And it also looks like you def need front to back stabilization on the bike. Tail gates are not cheap and dent easily.
I would like to see an adjustable bar that attaches somehow to the handlebar on one end and the truck bed on the other just in case a strap comes loose, etc. Also I think a deeper wheel chock would help stabilize the bike to make it easier for one person to load.
I think Joe should do an upgrade to his hauler. The optimal mounting point for the straps is the front fork / front fender mounts. This way the front suspension is not compressed and damaged. The Joe hauler does not allow for that as it is right now as the mounting point on it is on the side which provides no stability. However, if the mounting points on the Joe hauler are forward and a foot from the center to the sides, it works . Maybe Joe can do a slight modification ...
It would also be wise to consider the tongue weight limits of your hitch. Those limits and the effect of the motorcycle weight leverage impact are factors that must be considered from a safety standpoint.
I want to be sure that I am the first one to point out that my impromptu "tire lock strap" was dangling loose in the final shot of my bike on my truck. That was a fifth strap that I keep tightened on the tire and after that shot I put it back on recentered and retightened. It's an unnecessary strap but redundancy is okay)
I was searching the UA-cam web for a motorcycle hitch carrier to carry my 2016 Super Tenere behind my truck from AZ to OR and back. How did the trip going carry the ST?
That's way too much weight for the single 2" center tube. I installed 2 additional receivers & 2" support tubes on my Sprinter to support the bike carrier and it is rock-solid. Not sure why anyone would risk their bike with such an undersized setup.
The cover folds up easily when I haul things and it's great for trips so I can load it with gear, luggage etc...and I can lock it so I don't have to pull everything in and out of it at my stops. The bed isn't long enough to hold my bike and it's much easier to have the Joe Hauler. Thanks for watching and ride safely.
call me captain obvious, but isn't there something in california law that says your plate has to be displayed when otherwise blocked because of some circumstance that you created such as a bumper mounted behemoth ?
Definitely a 2 person load. I can just see myself trying to load my 600lb Honda CTX700 by myself and have that thing fall over on top of me. And being by myself nobody around to call 911
100% correct. That's the one mistake I made for the trip. I'll always go with ratchet straps from now on. I had to tighten the pull straps at least a dozen times on my second trip to Oregon.
you got 2 be kidding me,, none of that stuff is heavy enough 2 haul a harley, the tubing or the hitch is not heavy enough 2 handle that kind of weight or road shock,, it will break from metal fatige someday and you will be sorry,, better get you a trailer and save yourself from a lot of heartake someday...
I just don’t see how that can work for very long. The constant side to side and up and down has got to be stressful on that one arm. And has anybody checked how the hitch is installed on the vehicle. Some just have a couple bolts on the frame and a couple through the bottom of the trunk. I may haul a dirt bike to the woods with this but not a full grown Harley cross country.
Trying to get all the time I can with my Pops and my kids and they can't join me if I don't drive to the destination. Best of both worlds. Thanks for watching.
I am NOT putting my 900 Pound Cruiser that I PAID good money for, on any Class 3 Trailer Hitch that is ONLY RATED FOR A MAXIMUM of 600 Pounds! AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN! I'll use my bike trailer if I need to "haul" my bike anywhere!
Love to see your friend unloads by himself :))
He's definitely more confident with this than I am. I thought about trying it with just myself but I just can't work up the nizuts to do it. Thanks for watching.
That’s not his friend, It’s his boyfriend.
After watching this, it's definitely not only easier and safer but also less wear and tear on tow vehicle suspension to just use a quality bike trailer.
Cost is wayyyy more
@@aKjohn8798 NOT when you COUNT THE COST of having your expensive Motorcycle FALL OFF the back of the vehicle because the "trailer hitch" CANNOT support the WEIGHT of the bike!
I appreciate this update video on the hauler. I have an 09 RK and noticed that you used your RK to demonstrate loading/hauling. Thank you for your comment about those of us who served. One day, I'd like to have a celebratory bike ride made up of veterans on a long ride. That would be a fun ride. Ride safe and have a fine weekend. 👍🏽🤠 7/8/23
there is just go to american legion freedom ride. from Indiana to vegas
Awesome video I was always doubting the capability of this unit but now that I need one I'm absolutely confident that my 630 lb bike will sit there just fine for a couple hundred mile trip.. thank you
Let me know how it goes when you get one and thanks for watching.
Thanks for the review. I use the black widow and it works fine for sport and adventure bikes. But I need something for a bike in the 600 plus range and I'm glad to see there is an option. I get why people on here are nervous, but they stay up there well.
Thanks for the information and for watching. I'll check out the black widow as well.
A Class 3 hitch, even frame mounted, has tongue weight limits of 600-800 lbs depending on the manufacturer of the hitch. PLUS, you have 4 feet of tubing sticking out the back, holding your investment, and acting as a long lever. I'm not sure I understand how this is safe at those weights. I see that it works, but dang, that looks sketchy to me.
not only that, but in one sense, it's like a weighted trailer hitch that doesn't have anything that shifts weight back to the front axle for steering and handling control that you would have of you used an equalizing hitch on a towed trailer... so tell me how the differential is mitigated....
Agreed….. with tongue weight varying between 600-800 lbs and with the lever arm further away from the vehicle cannot see how this is safe for one’s 800-1,000lb Harley Davidson! With the vehicle suspension bouncing and hitting dips in the road I cannot see this configuration of hauler and Harley working for any duration of increased mileage!
Agree, definitely not for me!
A 500 lb. adv bike is a load on a hitch mount rack. A road king at 700lb. plus is nuts. Do yourself and others a favor and buy a trailer. Bouncing from the road can increase the load factor 3 times or more. @@stanztman68
Not for baggers. I don't care what they said. G
4 for back with no support but 2" tubing. Nope
I have a sidestand rest that goes in the hauler’s receiver. I don’t see a locking in type front chock working because you have to horse the bike backwards to get it out of the chock. Learning to take your bike for a walk under it’s own power is a useful skill. Start learning on flat ground. Thanks for the video.
So many things can go wrong with this process, all it really needs is a good wheel chock to eliminate 90% of the risk with dumping the bike on the ground or into the tailgate. Not sure how many 1/2 ton trucks can carry 800 lbs. plus with a 2 inch receiver.
If Joe Hauler would add an adjustable wheel chock like most flat towable trailer have it would make loading & strapping your bike down 100 times easier. The wheel chock will hold the bike upright while you strap it down. Just a thought
I'll ask him about your comment. If I get an answer I'll let you know what he says. He's slammed lately but will attempt. Thanks for watching.
Clint, it is Gerry, and OMG I was looking into a trailer to pull my bike and I have a 1999 FLHR... but I have a car and will have to do research. I loved both videos and may have to chat with you at Motorcycle Monkey. I was blown away that MM has a UA-cam... Now I have a lot of content to watch!! Meanwhile I am really enjoying that Christmas blend coffee! See you later!
Hey Gerry, thanks so much for watching and for your kind words about the videos. So glad you like the coffee. Be sure to check the tongue weight capacity on your vehicle. I can ask questions that you may have as well if you need me to do that in regards to the hitch. Hope all is well and now I am subscribing to your channel.
@@MotorcycleMonkey very cool! Been a while since I done any content... I keep thinking about doing stuff, but just been lazy about it. Yes, I was wondering about if the car can handle this lift. I saw another thing called The Original Slick Wheelie. Looking at options for a car that I have not even installed a tow hitch to yet.
You guys need to design an adjustable aluminum bar to brace between the top of tailgate (or coming up from the bumper) to the side of the bike to hold it steady, while attaching the ratchet straps. That would make this an easy 1-man process. And it would greatly simplify the reverse process of taking straps off the bike to remove it from the Hauler at your destination.
Great idea. I'll ask Joe about it. Thanks for watching.
I see that would be good for a light bike. I also have a roadking classic, and I just don't see how that would be sturdy enough for very long
I bought mine today I let Joe know I heard of him from you, I got the JH25
I have the Black Widow Carrier and it works wonders.
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Does it cover the tag?
Hmmm...Would a lock-chock in the front help secure the bike hands free? Btw, how's things in Santee?
My thought exactly! Puts the front wheel in a real wheel dock so u can be confident, let go and begin your strap down process🤷🏼♂️. Its such a great product otherwise for us guys with heavy bikes…..i cant believe the wheel dock aspect of the hauler isn’t the most important part of the idea of hauling 1000lb bikes.
I"ll ask about this. Maybe a weight thing? Not sure but I'll see If I can hit him up with your question. Great in Santee. You?
@@MotorcycleMonkey Warming up in Vegas!
Nice. Yeah, I wouldn't try it solo either. 🙂
nice idea, my Deuce weighs just under 500. What I see this is a 2-man job. And it also looks like you def need front to back stabilization on the bike. Tail gates are not cheap and dent easily.
My 03 SE Deuce weighs 712 no fluids (stock)
Friction straps?
I would like to see an adjustable bar that attaches somehow to the handlebar on one end and the truck bed on the other just in case a strap comes loose, etc. Also I think a deeper wheel chock would help stabilize the bike to make it easier for one person to load.
Thanks for sharing. What model Joe Hauler is that you are using?
Just subscribed. I need one of those bad!
Let me know if you get one. Tell Joe Hauler, that I sent you. Not sure if that will do anything for you but just in case. :) Thanks for watching.
That’s impressive.
I think Joe should do an upgrade to his hauler.
The optimal mounting point for the straps is the front fork / front fender mounts. This way the front suspension is not compressed and damaged.
The Joe hauler does not allow for that as it is right now as the mounting point on it is on the side which provides no stability.
However, if the mounting points on the Joe hauler are forward and a foot from the center to the sides, it works . Maybe Joe can do a slight modification ...
It would also be wise to consider the tongue weight limits of your hitch. Those limits and the effect of the motorcycle weight leverage impact are factors that must be considered from a safety standpoint.
I'll ask him this question as soon as I can. Thanks for watching.
What about on the back of truck camper?
You think this would fit a Honda Rebel 300 (roughly 400lbs) on a Ford Explorer with a class IV hitch?
for those of us with a camper , any ideas for the using a ramp on the front of a F350 super duty ?
I want to be sure that I am the first one to point out that my impromptu "tire lock strap" was dangling loose in the final shot of my bike on my truck. That was a fifth strap that I keep tightened on the tire and after that shot I put it back on recentered and retightened. It's an unnecessary strap but redundancy is okay)
I was searching the UA-cam web for a motorcycle hitch carrier to carry my 2016 Super Tenere behind my truck from AZ to OR and back. How did the trip going carry the ST?
Install a couple of small wheels on each end for driveway. Scrapes
Joe needs to add a adjustable locking wheel chock so one person can load and strap down their bike without the fear of the bike falling.
Not a bad idea. I'll ask about that. Thanks for watching.
Would this be good for A650 birdman scooter on a sea class motor home? Please comment back.
Is this the JH03 model?
No way I’m putting my $30k 700 lbs Harley on that shit. I get the idea but don’t think my nerves could take it
700? My road king weighs 900!
I think those tie down straps are crap, will loosen quickly. Invest in some racheting tie downs...
That hitch just slides right into a 2” receiver?
That's way too much weight for the single 2" center tube. I installed 2 additional receivers & 2" support tubes on my Sprinter to support the bike carrier and it is rock-solid. Not sure why anyone would risk their bike with such an undersized setup.
Why have a truck if you cover the bed and hang everything on the hitch?
The cover folds up easily when I haul things and it's great for trips so I can load it with gear, luggage etc...and I can lock it so I don't have to pull everything in and out of it at my stops. The bed isn't long enough to hold my bike and it's much easier to have the Joe Hauler. Thanks for watching and ride safely.
Cool concept. Looks like something a decent engineer needs to spend a few hours with . Work the bugs out
Your hitch tongue rating is the weak link, not the carrier.
Can these be used on a Class C motorhome?
call me captain obvious, but isn't there something in california law that says your plate has to be displayed when otherwise blocked because of some circumstance that you created such as a bumper mounted behemoth ?
why wouldn't you use ratchet straps can get much tighter tie down
Semper Fidelis
i hope you put some proper rachet straps. Those pinch ones are sketch as hell man
Sooo cool
I would have used ratchet straps. They would hold the bike better, but that's my opinion
Definitely a 2 person load. I can just see myself trying to load my 600lb Honda CTX700 by myself and have that thing fall over on top of me. And being by myself nobody around to call 911
Needs a wheel lock system that looks dangerous doing it alone other then that it would be good
I want to see Harley Davidson on one of them
i think i would use ratchet straps
I agree with you I would definitely use ratchet straps
100% correct. That's the one mistake I made for the trip. I'll always go with ratchet straps from now on. I had to tighten the pull straps at least a dozen times on my second trip to Oregon.
This thing just needs a wheel chock...
you got 2 be kidding me,, none of that stuff is heavy enough 2 haul a harley, the tubing or the hitch is not heavy enough 2 handle that kind of weight or road shock,, it will break from metal fatige someday and you will be sorry,, better get you a trailer and save yourself from a lot of heartake someday...
Needs a much better wheel chock!
All that weight hanging by a single bar. No thank you
I just don’t see how that can work for very long. The constant side to side and up and down has got to be stressful on that one arm. And has anybody checked how the hitch is installed on the vehicle. Some just have a couple bolts on the frame and a couple through the bottom of the trunk. I may haul a dirt bike to the woods with this but not a full grown Harley cross country.
Dad joke your dad. I do it too.
Looks sketchy to me.
A big Harley probably needs a trailer.
500 lb bike would probably be ok
Never ever use those type of straps use ratchet straps
I absolutely agree. After the trip I took I learned my lesson. I had to re-tighten the straps 7 or 8 times in 1,200 miles.
Don't worry about all the missed features, oversights, and errors. You're a Harley rider after all.\
Or... ride the bike maybe?
Trying to get all the time I can with my Pops and my kids and they can't join me if I don't drive to the destination. Best of both worlds. Thanks for watching.
Fair enough! I just thought it was funny that both your bike and your buddy’s bike are both mile munchers. Cheers!
This made me sick to my stomach
Most people just ride their motorcycles
Those that have Hondas would!
Here’s my video of my Joe Hauler
ua-cam.com/video/MN85tBeng_A/v-deo.html
geez that doesnt look safe at all
Come see you in Strugis after you trailer your bike the entire way there? Nah I'm good. Lames.
I am NOT putting my 900 Pound Cruiser that I PAID good money for, on any Class 3 Trailer Hitch that is ONLY RATED FOR A MAXIMUM of 600 Pounds! AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN! I'll use my bike trailer if I need to "haul" my bike anywhere!
Hell Naw to the Naw naw naw ....... Hell Naw .......
So...you're saying NO? :)