When backing a heavy bike down a steep ramp using only the front brake, the front tire may skid on the ramp. I leave the engine off and put the bike in 1st gear. Then backing down I use the clutch lever as a rear wheel "brake" still keeping both feet on the ramp for balance.
That's what happened to me when the front tire skidded. Fortunately, no damage to my BMW F750GS or me. Will keep the bike in gear next time. Good suggestion! Thanks.
@@StoneE4 That's only because Matt used the self loading videos from the fortnine commenters as the, "don't do this", examples. 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Sorry, I couldn't help myself. 🙊
from someone that transports bike for a living its always interesting to see these videos when they pop up. Really well done and properly informative for those that may be looking to transport there own bike here and there.
Being very tall like Matt increases leverage and safety and makes chores like this a whole lot easier. For the majority of folks, loading and unloading is quite the stressful experience, depending on the bike weight, rider height, and the ramp length, width and angle.
The wood and right side detention with kickstand down is priceless. U-da-man Matt. Two weeks ago I took delivery on a 2020 Fat Boy “Killmonger” Vivid Black 160 miles. Sunday I completely the Seminole Harley Riding Academy. I’m taking the Motorman, and MotoJitsu courses as well as learning to be a Simmons Preloader. I installed a Lindby, LED’s front and rear, and am looking for a swept pointed sissy bar. I will go with an enclosed trailer and chock, but I will not forget your advice. I have learned so much from your unique tall man perspective and vast level of knowledge. Still watching.
Thank you for posting this.. I've always used my handlebars and wondered if there was a better way.. I've seen folks use the fork sliders but I didn't like that for risk of paint scuffs. Using the frame seems like the way to go.. nice to know I been doing it wrong all these years! Will try this next time I trailer it. I use the same harley cam lock straps and pull them as tight as I can.. I'm paranoid of hitting a large bump and the hook slack for a moment and come off.. on a trailer where there's little suspension under the bike, it's probably important to tighten more that what would be needed in the back of a truck. Thanks for the detailed explanation of the different approaches.
Back in the early days of my starting to ride, I did the Evel Knievel while trying to load my 600 lb low rider on to my truck with a skinny ramp. Got the bike on to the truck, but collapse the front of the bed unto the cab of my truck. What a disaster I ain't 6'6". I use a trailer now. LOL.
I'm surprised that that dealer truck doesn't have something to stabilize that front wheel in a straight up fashion. Strapping the bike down with the kickstand down has the potential to do damage to the kickstand, frame and truck bed where the kickstand sits when you hit potholes and such. The majority of the weight goes down on the kickstand when the suspension gives. If you have to strap it down with the stand down because of urgency then do it, but I like to go upright.
Great video. Next time I haul my SG I’ll use that method. I’ve been using soft ties on the lower fork tubes right above the fender bolts. Works good but like the frame/crash bar method better. I didn’t see any straps on the back of the bike. I typically tie down the back at the saddle bag rails or around the passenger foot pegs.
Great video with excellent samples of how to properly load a bike. Have been to the dealer and received terrible service. Have been a good customer since your location was in SG. I must comment there was a very nice young lady working in part. She was very knowledgeable and was able to get the part I need it.
The ratchet style won't come loose as easily and the cam type straps y'all are using in this video.. I've had these cam type straps come loose during transport! Everything else is common sense! I won't use a skinny ramp! Very good video!
As I do. I just thought it would be much more helpful to show the masses how to do it. I am of the crowd that only trailers a bike if it not able to be ridden mechanically. I just loaded an in storage for 7 years '91 Police bike with the winch by myself, the owner was impressed I must say.
Matt, I'm 6'4", fit at 195lbs, riding, racing and loading bikes for over 40 years but you've got a bigger set than me walking/feathering a touring bike up a single narrow ramp solo into a pickup bed! ...thanks for revoking my mancard!!!
This is a decent video, but I disagree with a few key things. First, NEVER load a bike into a pickup using the narrow ramp on this video. While he does it successfully it's just a disaster waiting to happen. Second, I never use the cam lock straps shown here, always use ratchet straps. Third, ALWAYS use at least 2 sets of the downs, front, and in the middle and if possible one in the rear.
I don't stress the front suspension. I use a HF wheel chock which allows me to get off the bike. Then I use soft ties around the front fender bolts to hold the wheel into the chock. Then I tie down at the saddlebag guards while sitting on the bike. That worked for a while, then I got the Biker Bar for my new enclosed trailer, and now I don't have to use any straps.
Really great video Matt, I recently rented a low motorcycle trailer from uhaul. It is the very best way to go since you can.load it yourself very safely and transport it securely.. Just like the one you demonstrated. Matt, I remember transporting my freshly restored vintage 1971 super glide boat tail night train in the back of my ranger pickup truck from Jim’s Harley-Davidson in Ohio to my home in Illinois. As I was approaching a over pass on the interstate at 65 mph I noticed 3 teenagers throwing rocks at vehicles, they seem me coming and started throwing rocks down at me. I swerved at the last second and the little SOBs missed my freshly restored 71 vintage Night train. Truly, if I had a machine gun mounted to the roof of my pickup pointed up I would have taken them little SOBs all out before they let the rocks drop on me. Thanks for the video Matt. I would use a enclosed trailer for longer distance hauling...out of sight out of mind!
Those sort of "pranks" have caused accidents that have resulted in deaths, so if you do shoot those delinquents and are charged, if I'm on the jury, I'll be voting to acquit.
Come on Paul, a "1971 super-glide-boat-tail-night-train"??? WTH is that, a model you made up lol? That sounds like something a drunk biker would say when a bunch of guys are sitting around the garage telling lies LOL Night Train didn't come out until 1998, discontinued in 2010. I have a 2004, super sweet bike that I will have until I die!! Rock on Harley bros!
I am 5'9 so loading and unloading my harley on my pickup was a bit scary. I had to have someone spot me and hold the bike in place as I stepped up and down from the bed. Thank you for making this video, good useful tips here.
Those tailgate braces aren't really going to help prevent the center of the tailgate from tacoing when you're using a single ramp. The weakest point in any tailgate is right in the center. Maybe the braces make the tailgate a little bit more rigid because they go to the upper edge of the tailgate, but not much. It makes more sense to me (with a single ramp) to place it off-center to the right just a bit.
When I have to trailer my RKS and wife’s Sportster I use soft loops wrapped in microfiber rags and I tie down the forks below shocks (around fender mounts). That way I don’t compress the shocks and let bikes “float” with the road profile. Never had to re-tighten straps due to bike bouncing and adding an additional dynamic “stretch” to the straps. Soft loops wrapped in the rugs protect the paint and I’ve never had any issues with this method even though Matt didn’t recommend it.
Another great video, Matt. Thanks! I would only add that straps need to be put on the rear of the motorcycle, as well as the front. This required removing the saddlebags in order to access the swing arms. Another thing I discovered was that you need to keep the fob in proximity to the bike or the alarm system will activate due to the bike’s movement on the trailer while you’re going down the road. And I had no issues with the front straps interfering with the leg fairings on my 2020 Ultra Limited.
Very good, thorough video. I load dirt bikes frequently into my van, but the harley is entirely different. The wide ramp for foot placement and balance is essential, I wouldn't use my narrow dirt bike ramps to load the fatboy I own. This video very useful, thanks Matt.
I got a 19 Electra Glide Standard. My setup is a Aluma 5410 (54 wide by 120 inch long), custom welded on 72 inch long bi fold aluminum ramp off a car hauler. I got the removable Condor wheel chock. I use endless ratchet straps (no hooks) that I loop through the frame in front. I use 2, loosely, on the rear through the saddle bag guards (added to the bike) to make sure the rear doesn't shift to much. I've actually never had the rear shift on me though, during transport.
I have transported it in the bed of a 14 and 20, Silverado 1500 reg cab long box. I got the trailer cause it's just a far safer way to load and unload. I took the original ramp off the trailer and had the 72 inch bi fold car hauler ramp custom welded on for increased safety while loading and unloading.
One suggestion. Before tying the loose end of the strap wrap it around the strap at the bottom of the buckle, that way if the buckle mechanism breaks or loosens the strap will pull tight against the buckle frame and hold the bike tight.
Never tried a solo load... with that kind of weight! Worked at Hempstead Harley, big eye opener, on Harley weight. That first month I had to grow wrist muscles, my bike experience at that time, was zero Harley, all Japanese...big difference! I did dry prep, unloading, unnboxing (ours were always fully wood boxes, then moved into the aluminum spars. Roll it in, after the mech, took it for the test ride, I wash and polish, move it to the showroom. We used to lift the front of the crate bottom, I get on, partner pops the straps, the tilt makes it bump over the crate spars. Wax on, wax off!
When I was younger and stronger (and stupider) I used to occasionally load my 82 Suzuki 750 into the back of a full sized van using a long 2x8. If I ever need to trailer my Road King I think I’m going to rent a U-Haul trailer. Good info on where to tie down though! Could also be useful if you ever take your bike on a ferry boat. I know the one that crosses Lake Michigan requires you to bring your own straps and tie it down. Now I know how to do it right, I used to tie to the handlebars. Thanks!
Good information and well presented. There's one situation that you didn't address. I've been using a tilt bed utility trailer with side rails to transport bikes for many years. I use a front wheel chock very similar to the ones in your video, permanently mounted to the trailer. I tie down as you recommend, but also secure the rear wheel side to side for added stability. Of course, no ramp is needed with a tilt bed. I would like to see how you would using a trailer of this type. I have a Sportster, Dyna and Road King. Also use the trailer on the farm for multiple purposes.
Don't hate,I do load my bikes in the back of my 2003 tacoma w/ bike off on one ramp and a 5gal bucket(I'm only 6'4"). It works, really liked the tailgate support bars.
I do load my bikes in the back of my 2003 tacoma w/ bike off on one ramp and a 5gal bucket(I'm only 6'4"). It works, really liked the tailgate support bars.
This is great Matt, thanks! The clips of the guys dropping them off the ramp are nightmare stuff.. yessir, pay close attention, this is very helpful 👍🏻👍🏻
Very good video Matt! I use a motorcycle trailer when needed. I'm 6'3" and there's no way I'm walking my Ultra up that skinny ramp. You've probably been doing it your whole life and have tons of practice.
Good information especially since so many people screw this up. On another note, you're 6'6''? We are both the same height...give or take a foot or so...
Thankfully I’ve been lucky enough to not have to load a bike in a truck bed in a long time . The shovel head did that quite often and it was easiest for help to be around. Great explanation and video!
years ago if you had a harley davidson you must have a pick up truck to take it home or a friends harley they broke down all the time in the 60's when i was a kid no joke and if you rode 300 miles in one day that was a good day and someone always broke down ... now we have a new type of harley that 1000 miles in one day is a good day Mr. Matt....
This was a great video. Im not good at loading a bike and I never want to be good at it. It only means one thing. I broke down!!! This video shows tips im always wondering about when I do load a bike though
Great video thx! I have 2 trailers and will be using your methods going forward. A 5x8 for short trips and my toyhauler that I built myself for loonngg roadtrips!
Or when you are moving a long enough distance that it doesn't make sense to make another trip with another driver just so you can ride your bike back... And let's not forget those situations where there is a lot of snow and ice on the roads... I determined a long time ago (on a base far, far away) that 2-wheeled vehicles are not that fun on snow and ice...
Me and three other guys loaded my vn900 classic lt backward in a uhaul truck so that I could ride out without help when I deliverded in back to uhaul ! They thought that was the coolest thing of the day !!!
I have the Biker Bar in my tralier, just connect the bar to the bottom of the frame drive onto tralier and it locks down get off bike and go no tie downs or nothing. Luv it.
@@tahoe9882 -- Interesting concept... If they made it a bit wider, it would even make it impossible to drop your bike on the side while moving it around in your garage. It would be like having a kickstand down on both sides... :) I had actually though about doing something similar to that using a length 2x4 to make it easier to move my Harley around in my garage. I was thinking of mounting it to the crash bar instead though. I've never dropped my Harley while moving it around in my garage, but I have dropped *lighter* bikes unfortunately...
There's probably more "load motorcycle fail" videos than their are success videos on UA-cam... :) If you are not tall, riding the motorcycle up the ramp does not have much room for error. If your bike is of such a height that when you sit at a stop light, both feet are not flat on the ground, when you try to ride it up the ramp, there is a point where your legs will not be long enough and if it starts to go over, it will be far enough that you might not be able to recover. And, add to that the fact that the grid type ramps do not always provide you the best place to put your feet.
Ive been loading and unloading dirtbikes for years into trucks, these bigger cruisers you definitely need to take alot more caution. When i bought my sportster, luckily i backed up to my sandmound in my yard and there was almost no slope at all to unload
Good going Matt. I tied down my chopped triumph in 1970. All I had was rope and triangle expertise my older bother taught me. I was 20, the trailer was a converted boat-trailer. I went too Colorado road my chop up Pikes peak. Sold the scooter in Albuquerque , New Mexico. No scratches!
One of the most practical videos I've seen on this subject. Though he demonstrated these techniques on Harley's, the principles apply to other bikes too. Nice job!
I have watched other people talk about not getting the tie down above the shock (not physically) because how tight will you compress the shock? Or will the bike strap loosen up if the shock is allowed to work and the strap is getting stressed? I towed mine without constricting the shock at all. It worked well and just seems better for the bike and shocks.
I've always heard that and practiced it with heavy Harleys, but I always used a wheel chock too. Surprised nothing was said about it here. Is it a myth?
Thanks for this Matt. Funny, we have been tieing down to the front Engine Guard for years, I now understand that is not a good idea. Question, could you show us how you tie down an Ultra with Lowers?
I purchased my Road King from somewhere that was 850 miles from where I live. I loaded it into the bed of my Dodge 1500 QuadCab (6 ft bed). The bed height on that truck is apparently a bit more than the truck being used in this video and I only had a 6 ft long by 3 ft wide ramp. I believe that the height from the tailgate to the ground was around 35-36" with the tires that I had on it. There was no way I was going to be able to drive it up that ramp on flat ground, so I had to look around for a hill or ditch that would flatten out the angle on the ramp. On flat ground, a 6 ft ramp with a 3 ft tailgate height would mean a 30 degree angle [ sin(x) = opp/hyp, thus sin(x) = 3 / 6, thus sin(x) = 0.5, thus x = asin(0.5), thus x = 30 degrees]... For anything other than a high ground clearance dirt bike, you would scrape the bottom of the bike as you went over the edge where the tailgate met the ramp at that angle. I eventually found an elevated area which would allow the ramp to be basically flat and it was a non-event to put it in the bed of the pickup. Of course, the tailgate of the pickup could not be closed, but I strapped it down very well and it didn't move. One of the few times when it would have been nice to have an 8 ft bed in the pickup instead of the 6.25 ft one. Unloading it back home was a bit more difficult since things are a bit more flat around here. I ended up building a supplementary ramp to rest the bottom of the 6'x3' ramp on and that in combination with the slope of my driveway was enough to allow me to back it down while standing beside the bike. I probably should have used my utility trailer. I'm not sure why I didn't -- maybe I didn't want to have to haul it that far and figured there would be a loading ramp nearby...
I learned years ago to go around forks just above fender mount this way the suspension of bike has free travel without straps ever becoming loose when suspension compresses when hitting bumps or turning. I also never use a hook in any tie down location using strap to go thru tie down eye then thru eye of hook. Just my opinion. Are others doin this way? What do you think? Also I do soft strap in rear to prevent side to side movements. Great video.
That’s a decent way to do it and will work in most cases. The way I show isn’t the only way to skin a cat. The problem with strapping a big heavy Harley right there is you can easily put pressure on the fender and mess up the paint or bend the fender. Also it doesn’t anchor the bike in as well as using the frame.
I tie down to the fork lowers by making 1 wrap around the fork lower. That way the forks will not compress while you are towing and the straps stay tight. I also put a blanket over the point where the ramp and trailer bed come together now. Be cause 1 time in the past I didn't and the kickstand spring broke because it hit the metal of the trailer and ramp This was on a 2007 Road King and my 2013 Wide Glide is even lower than the RK. Good tips I'm too scared to use my pick up bed even with a wide ramp. I never heard of that solid tail gate retainer before. Maybe with that and a wide ramp I would do it. I'm only 5' 8" now, even when I was in my 20s I was 5" 10" I'd be too scared to use a narrow ramp and walk it up. Now if I fell not only would I mess up the bike, I'd be injured too.
I've loaded at least 7 bikes (not running) into a F150 using only one 2x12 and two people. Hand break is key lol. Nice thing is I have a forklift and a nice skid for unloading.
I found that with the engine running, the bike is more stable. It’s the gyro effect of the crank rotating, just like the rotating wheels keep the bike upright at speed. So when you are backing the bike off the trailer or pickup, start it up and you will notice that it’s more stable and much easier to keep it upright.
Rented a u-haul truck last winter to take my bike to the painter. Cold and several inches of snow on the ground. Getting that bike up into the truck was to say the least sketchy and heart pounding.
I have a fully enclosed trailer because a bike can be exposed to weather & road debris in an open trailer . Especially during long interstate Transports . I also have a Harley Cruiser Cradle AKA Condor wheel chock bolted into the floor . For years on my touring bikes I use the floor board support brackets that are welded into the frame under the floorboards with a soft tie on each side . Never an issue with the bike moving or never anything scratched too. I’d never transport my $30K Roadglide Special any other way period !
Thank you for the excellent video. That is how I have been securing motorcycles for year's.loading yes and no.yave had more motorcycles in my past 36+ yrs then most have had vehicles.thank you again keep up the good work
I was hoping you would show how to safely load a dead Harley where you gotta get a good running start and put a lot of ass into getting up the ramp. Just incase I need to bring my Road King into an authorized Harley Davidson service center.
Absolute easiest way to tie down a bike: If it has an engine guard, tie down around the base of the engine guard on the left side, putting all pressure on the kick stand. As long as the bike is in 1st gear, it'll make it just fine, whether 10 miles or 1000. With exactly1 strap. It'll never budge an inch. Done it many times.
Being able to put a Harley on the back of a truck or trailer is an essential skill. In Australia we call them 'Blue Healers as they spend more time on the back of the ute than your blue healer dog.
When backing a heavy bike down a steep ramp using only the front brake, the front tire may skid on the ramp. I leave the engine off and put the bike in 1st gear. Then backing down I use the clutch lever as a rear wheel "brake" still keeping both feet on the ramp for balance.
Great idea.
True that.
Smart!
That's what happened to me when the front tire skidded. Fortunately, no damage to my BMW F750GS or me. Will keep the bike in gear next time. Good suggestion! Thanks.
Helpful. Thanks.
I really fail to understand why would one dislike such video. Thank you Matt for these demonstrations. 👍🏻
Thank you for the positive feedback
People are haters, especially the Indian Challenger folks.
Honda Shadow owner
The vast majority of people who comment on fortnine videos would dislike this video, without watching it, after seeing the word "Harley" in the title.
@@StoneE4 That's only because Matt used the self loading videos from the fortnine commenters as the, "don't do this", examples. 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Sorry, I couldn't help myself. 🙊
from someone that transports bike for a living its always interesting to see these videos when they pop up. Really well done and properly informative for those that may be looking to transport there own bike here and there.
At 5”4 I won’t be attempting to load my CVO on the back of a truck any time soon, but very educational Matt! And enjoyable as always.
Being very tall like Matt increases leverage and safety and makes chores like this a whole lot easier. For the majority of folks, loading and unloading is quite the stressful experience, depending on the bike weight, rider height, and the ramp length, width and angle.
matt!! it also helps if you are 6'5 when loading one of these on a truck!! :)
I was thinking the same thing with my 5'2" self🤣
I'm 5'7 and I've loaded everything form sport bikes to dirt bikes and adventure bikes into my pickup truck. But I use a ramp to walk up with my bike.
Great video, Matt. Please bring us more.
I'm 6 foot and those extra inches in height would be helpful
The wood and right side detention with kickstand down is priceless. U-da-man Matt. Two weeks ago I took delivery on a 2020 Fat Boy “Killmonger” Vivid Black 160 miles. Sunday I completely the Seminole Harley Riding Academy. I’m taking the Motorman, and MotoJitsu courses as well as learning to be a Simmons Preloader. I installed a Lindby, LED’s front and rear, and am looking for a swept pointed sissy bar. I will go with an enclosed trailer and chock, but I will not forget your advice. I have learned so much from your unique tall man perspective and vast level of knowledge. Still watching.
Thank you for posting this.. I've always used my handlebars and wondered if there was a better way.. I've seen folks use the fork sliders but I didn't like that for risk of paint scuffs. Using the frame seems like the way to go.. nice to know I been doing it wrong all these years! Will try this next time I trailer it. I use the same harley cam lock straps and pull them as tight as I can.. I'm paranoid of hitting a large bump and the hook slack for a moment and come off.. on a trailer where there's little suspension under the bike, it's probably important to tighten more that what would be needed in the back of a truck. Thanks for the detailed explanation of the different approaches.
Back in the early days of my starting to ride, I did the Evel Knievel while trying to load my 600 lb low rider on to my truck with a skinny ramp. Got the bike on to the truck, but collapse the front of the bed unto the cab of my truck. What a disaster I ain't 6'6". I use a trailer now. LOL.
I'm surprised that that dealer truck doesn't have something to stabilize that front wheel in a straight up fashion. Strapping the bike down with the kickstand down has the potential to do damage to the kickstand, frame and truck bed where the kickstand sits when you hit potholes and such. The majority of the weight goes down on the kickstand when the suspension gives. If you have to strap it down with the stand down because of urgency then do it, but I like to go upright.
Just in time! Best info, for me, was how much to ratchet and compress the front suspension. 1" to 1-1/2" Thanks!
Glad I could help.
The bike will loosen after a while, probably will need to tighten down more even with initial 1 1/2 inch.
isn't it amazing that no matter how tightly secured your bike is that you still have to stop every 20mins and readjust it!
U must not know how 2 cinch down your straps, I've gone x-country w/chinching down, just checked every gas stop.
I liked the video, just because of the demonstration of the van door window crank. The other demonstrations were cool too.
this is a good video to put out for sure. so many horror stories of people dropping their bikes on the way up the ramp. uggggh. good stuff man.
Great video. Next time I haul my SG I’ll use that method. I’ve been using soft ties on the lower fork tubes right above the fender bolts. Works good but like the frame/crash bar method better. I didn’t see any straps on the back of the bike. I typically tie down the back at the saddle bag rails or around the passenger foot pegs.
Great video with excellent samples of how to properly load a bike. Have been to the dealer and received terrible service. Have been a good customer since your location was in SG. I must comment there was a very nice young lady working in part. She was very knowledgeable and was able to get the part I need it.
If you have an air compressor you can let air out of the rear tires to lower the rear end. Then reinflate the tires.
True. That could help in desperate situations.
The ratchet style won't come loose as easily and the cam type straps y'all are using in this video.. I've had these cam type straps come loose during transport! Everything else is common sense! I won't use a skinny ramp! Very good video!
agreed the ratchet style are the best.
I also agree. Ive hit a bump and they come loose. Have ratchet straps now. Thanks for the videos!
That's great. How bout showing how to do it when the bike cannot be powered up a ramp. Like a broken belt?
I have a winch on my motorcycle trailer all the dead bikes when friends call.
As I do. I just thought it would be much more helpful to show the masses how to do it. I am of the crowd that only trailers a bike if it not able to be ridden mechanically. I just loaded an in storage for 7 years '91 Police bike with the winch by myself, the owner was impressed I must say.
Matt, I'm 6'4", fit at 195lbs, riding, racing and loading bikes for over 40 years but you've got a bigger set than me walking/feathering a touring bike up a single narrow ramp solo into a pickup bed! ...thanks for revoking my mancard!!!
Yh
This is a decent video, but I disagree with a few key things. First, NEVER load a bike into a pickup using the narrow ramp on this video. While he does it successfully it's just a disaster waiting to happen. Second, I never use the cam lock straps shown here, always use ratchet straps. Third, ALWAYS use at least 2 sets of the downs, front, and in the middle and if possible one in the rear.
As always "The King of All Harley Videos" has spoken. Listen and learn. It will be time well spent.
yes more of these types of videos. very well explained, filmed and well done all around
I don't stress the front suspension. I use a HF wheel chock which allows me to get off the bike. Then I use soft ties around the front fender bolts to hold the wheel into the chock. Then I tie down at the saddlebag guards while sitting on the bike. That worked for a while, then I got the Biker Bar for my new enclosed trailer, and now I don't have to use any straps.
I love my biker bar
Really great video Matt, I recently rented a low motorcycle trailer from uhaul. It is the very best way to go since you can.load it yourself very safely and transport it securely.. Just like the one you demonstrated.
Matt, I remember transporting my freshly restored vintage 1971 super glide boat tail night train in the back of my ranger pickup truck from Jim’s Harley-Davidson in Ohio to my home in Illinois. As I was approaching a over pass on the interstate at 65 mph I noticed 3 teenagers throwing rocks at vehicles, they seem me coming and started throwing rocks down at me. I swerved at the last second and the little SOBs missed my freshly restored 71 vintage Night train. Truly, if I had a machine gun mounted to the roof of my pickup pointed up I would have taken them little SOBs all out before they let the rocks drop on me. Thanks for the video Matt. I would use a enclosed trailer for longer distance hauling...out of sight out of mind!
Those sort of "pranks" have caused accidents that have resulted in deaths, so if you do shoot those delinquents and are charged, if I'm on the jury, I'll be voting to acquit.
Come on Paul, a "1971 super-glide-boat-tail-night-train"??? WTH is that, a model you made up lol? That sounds like something a drunk biker would say when a bunch of guys are sitting around the garage telling lies LOL
Night Train didn't come out until 1998, discontinued in 2010. I have a 2004, super sweet bike that I will have until I die!! Rock on Harley bros!
I am 5'9 so loading and unloading my harley on my pickup was a bit scary. I had to have someone spot me and hold the bike in place as I stepped up and down from the bed. Thank you for making this video, good useful tips here.
“Get Tacoed,” I love it! Thanks for a great video about our recreation and Rides.
Haha thanks man. Thanks for watching.
Those tailgate braces aren't really going to help prevent the center of the tailgate from tacoing when you're using a single ramp. The weakest point in any tailgate is right in the center. Maybe the braces make the tailgate a little bit more rigid because they go to the upper edge of the tailgate, but not much.
It makes more sense to me (with a single ramp) to place it off-center to the right just a bit.
When I have to trailer my RKS and wife’s Sportster I use soft loops wrapped in microfiber rags and I tie down the forks below shocks (around fender mounts). That way I don’t compress the shocks and let bikes “float” with the road profile. Never had to re-tighten straps due to bike bouncing and adding an additional dynamic “stretch” to the straps. Soft loops wrapped in the rugs protect the paint and I’ve never had any issues with this method even though Matt didn’t recommend it.
Another great video, Matt. Thanks! I would only add that straps need to be put on the rear of the motorcycle, as well as the front. This required removing the saddlebags in order to access the swing arms. Another thing I discovered was that you need to keep the fob in proximity to the bike or the alarm system will activate due to the bike’s movement on the trailer while you’re going down the road. And I had no issues with the front straps interfering with the leg fairings on my 2020 Ultra Limited.
Thank you Matt and John. Very useful information. Much appreciate. 113 people apparently thought this information was not useful.
Very good, thorough video. I load dirt bikes frequently into my van, but the harley is entirely different. The wide ramp for foot placement and balance is essential, I wouldn't use my narrow dirt bike ramps to load the fatboy I own. This video very useful, thanks Matt.
I got a 19 Electra Glide Standard.
My setup is a Aluma 5410 (54 wide by 120 inch long), custom welded on 72 inch long bi fold aluminum ramp off a car hauler. I got the removable Condor wheel chock. I use endless ratchet straps (no hooks) that I loop through the frame in front.
I use 2, loosely, on the rear through the saddle bag guards (added to the bike) to make sure the rear doesn't shift to much. I've actually never had the rear shift on me though, during transport.
I have transported it in the bed of a 14 and 20, Silverado 1500 reg cab long box. I got the trailer cause it's just a far safer way to load and unload. I took the original ramp off the trailer and had the 72 inch bi fold car hauler ramp custom welded on for increased safety while loading and unloading.
One suggestion. Before tying the loose end of the strap wrap it around the strap at the bottom of the buckle, that way if the buckle mechanism breaks or loosens the strap will pull tight against the buckle frame and hold the bike tight.
Never tried a solo load... with that kind of weight! Worked at Hempstead Harley, big eye opener, on Harley weight. That first month I had to grow wrist muscles, my bike experience at that time, was zero Harley, all Japanese...big difference! I did dry prep, unloading, unnboxing (ours were always fully wood boxes, then moved into the aluminum spars. Roll it in, after the mech, took it for the test ride, I wash and polish, move it to the showroom. We used to lift the front of the crate bottom, I get on, partner pops the straps, the tilt makes it bump over the crate spars.
Wax on, wax off!
Loved the video. Any suggestions as to how to kid a non running bike on the side of the road-other than the obvious “push hard”? Thanks.
Best Matt quote: “now you know how to load a CVO limited in the back of a Toyota Tacoma” 🤣🤣🤣
When I was younger and stronger (and stupider) I used to occasionally load my 82 Suzuki 750 into the back of a full sized van using a long 2x8. If I ever need to trailer my Road King I think I’m going to rent a U-Haul trailer. Good info on where to tie down though! Could also be useful if you ever take your bike on a ferry boat. I know the one that crosses Lake Michigan requires you to bring your own straps and tie it down. Now I know how to do it right, I used to tie to the handlebars. Thanks!
Thanks Matt for this motorcycle loading video it was very help full especially for bikes that heavy
Good information and well presented.
There's one situation that you didn't address. I've been using a tilt bed utility trailer with side rails to transport bikes for many years. I use a front wheel chock very similar to the ones in your video, permanently mounted to the trailer. I tie down as you recommend, but also secure the rear wheel side to side for added stability.
Of course, no ramp is needed with a tilt bed.
I would like to see how you would using a trailer of this type.
I have a Sportster, Dyna and Road King.
Also use the trailer on the farm for multiple purposes.
Don't hate,I do load my bikes in the back of my 2003 tacoma w/ bike off on one ramp and a 5gal bucket(I'm only 6'4"). It works, really liked the tailgate support bars.
I do load my bikes in the back of my 2003 tacoma w/ bike off on one ramp and a 5gal bucket(I'm only 6'4"). It works, really liked the tailgate support bars.
This is great Matt, thanks! The clips of the guys dropping them off the ramp are nightmare stuff.. yessir, pay close attention, this is very helpful 👍🏻👍🏻
Glad I could help.
Very good video Matt! I use a motorcycle trailer when needed. I'm 6'3" and there's no way I'm walking my Ultra up that skinny ramp. You've probably been doing it your whole life and have tons of practice.
I’ve done it once or twice. Yes, the wide ramp is the way to go
Can you guys show us how to use that window handle "thingee" .... again ! That was funny !
Good information especially since so many people screw this up. On another note, you're 6'6''? We are both the same height...give or take a foot or so...
Thanks Jerry.
Yes sir. 😂
@@MattLaidlaw I do at times identify as a 6'6'' person so...
I love your videos Jerry
I’m an inch taller but man my old knees don’t wanna lift me into the back of a truck like that anymore!
@@jedicazador -- Hell, my old knees don't even like stepping over a *curb* ... :(
Thanks great advice and video. All should watch even if your an experienced rider. I learned alot. Thanks again!!
I rent a u-haul trailer when I need one. It's about $20/day. Much safer then trying to ride it into a pickup.
Thankfully I’ve been lucky enough to not have to load a bike in a truck bed in a long time . The shovel head did that quite often and it was easiest for help to be around. Great explanation and video!
Important info for all HD owners... ; )
Great content ! And I been tying my bike down the wrong way for a long time
Great video, sure could've used this info a couple of years ago. SRK Cycles sells a great set of tie straps for those interested.
Tank straps are the best
years ago if you had a harley davidson you must have a pick up truck to take it home or a friends harley they broke down all the time in the 60's when i was a kid no joke and if you rode 300 miles in one day that was a good day and someone always broke down ... now we have a new type of harley that 1000 miles in one day is a good day Mr. Matt....
Thanks for introducing new transportation terminology like soft tie and methodology like triangulating and describing frame tie points.
Thanks for watching
Great info.I always questioned loading my bike. Now my question is how can it be loaded on a short bed truck?
I've seen people walk a bike in like that. They just did it when I bought my new bike. Really impresses me. Thanks for the video.
Thanks for watching. 👍🏻
It helps to be tall and be around bikes a lot.
Good advice here. Especially the ramp placement for pickups...(Of course if your Harley ain’t running, make sure you have four friends on standby...)
This was a great video. Im not good at loading a bike and I never want to be good at it. It only means one thing. I broke down!!! This video shows tips im always wondering about when I do load a bike though
Great video thx! I have 2 trailers and will be using your methods going forward. A 5x8 for short trips and my toyhauler that I built myself for loonngg roadtrips!
Dude thank you for posting this ❤
Thank you for this info. I'm renting a uhaul soon for my fat Bob. Fat Bob video was great and thanks again
The only time that your bike goes on a trailer or in the back of a truck is when it's broken down. Other than that you ride them.
Or learning
Or when you are moving a long enough distance that it doesn't make sense to make another trip with another driver just so you can ride your bike back...
And let's not forget those situations where there is a lot of snow and ice on the roads... I determined a long time ago (on a base far, far away) that 2-wheeled vehicles are not that fun on snow and ice...
I would have liked watching you demonstrate unloading with the single ramp... 👍
agree
You will never see my Ultra Limited tied down with spring tensioner things, ratchets only! I'm amazed your using them.
Me and three other guys loaded my vn900 classic lt backward in a uhaul truck so that I could ride out without help when I deliverded in back to uhaul ! They thought that was the coolest thing of the day !!!
Thank You. Laidlaws has been around for a Min!
Matt your videos are always informative, thanks.
Thank you.
I have the Biker Bar in my tralier, just connect the bar to the bottom of the frame drive onto tralier and it locks down get off bike and go no tie downs or nothing. Luv it.
Nice. I’ll have to check that out
@@MattLaidlaw Matt put in biker bar motorcycle mount on here and different videos will come up.
@@tahoe9882 -- Interesting concept... If they made it a bit wider, it would even make it impossible to drop your bike on the side while moving it around in your garage. It would be like having a kickstand down on both sides... :)
I had actually though about doing something similar to that using a length 2x4 to make it easier to move my Harley around in my garage. I was thinking of mounting it to the crash bar instead though. I've never dropped my Harley while moving it around in my garage, but I have dropped *lighter* bikes unfortunately...
Says alot about recent quality of Harleys. Back in the 60's and 70's this was a well practiced skill.
All I wanna do right now is watch "loading a motorcycle into a trailer fail" videos
Haha. That’s basically how I got my fail clips.
There's probably more "load motorcycle fail" videos than their are success videos on UA-cam... :)
If you are not tall, riding the motorcycle up the ramp does not have much room for error. If your bike is of such a height that when you sit at a stop light, both feet are not flat on the ground, when you try to ride it up the ramp, there is a point where your legs will not be long enough and if it starts to go over, it will be far enough that you might not be able to recover. And, add to that the fact that the grid type ramps do not always provide you the best place to put your feet.
that one where the guy goes over the side of the truck, that leg looks like it broke for sure!
absolutely the very best video I have ever seen on this topic
Great video.Very informative. You make that single ramp look so easy, but no thanks. Glad I have trailer. Thanks for the video.
This really helps a n00b like myself out. Thank you!
And don’t forget to pre-plan where you’ll be unloading...especially from a truck bed!
True
Dude walked that Harley up and in that truck like I put dishes in the cabinet. AMAZING....
😂🤣
You will be my inspiration to always employ tailgate supports, Taco!
@@TheRealOTim Roger that..
I'd like to see how he UNLOADS it !!!!
Ive been loading and unloading dirtbikes for years into trucks, these bigger cruisers you definitely need to take alot more caution. When i bought my sportster, luckily i backed up to my sandmound in my yard and there was almost no slope at all to unload
Good going Matt. I tied down my chopped triumph in 1970. All I had was rope and triangle expertise my older bother taught me. I was 20, the trailer was a converted boat-trailer. I went too Colorado road my chop up Pikes peak. Sold the scooter in Albuquerque , New Mexico. No scratches!
One of the most practical videos I've seen on this subject. Though he demonstrated these techniques on Harley's, the principles apply to other bikes too. Nice job!
A lot of people don’t use common sense when loading and unloading their scooter, Great video for people that don’t have common sense!
That last load was Masterfully executed 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Thank you
I have watched other people talk about not getting the tie down above the shock (not physically) because how tight will you compress the shock? Or will the bike strap loosen up if the shock is allowed to work and the strap is getting stressed? I towed mine without constricting the shock at all. It worked well and just seems better for the bike and shocks.
I need some tailgate supports like that!
where can I get these tailgate supports?
Im looking for the same thing
Make sure there is no weight on the side stand wile transporting.
I've always heard that and practiced it with heavy Harleys, but I always used a wheel chock too. Surprised nothing was said about it here. Is it a myth?
Thanks for this Matt. Funny, we have been tieing down to the front Engine Guard for years, I now understand that is not a good idea. Question, could you show us how you tie down an Ultra with Lowers?
yea, I might have to re do this video with that info.
@@MattLaidlaw Thanks 🙏
I purchased my Road King from somewhere that was 850 miles from where I live. I loaded it into the bed of my Dodge 1500 QuadCab (6 ft bed). The bed height on that truck is apparently a bit more than the truck being used in this video and I only had a 6 ft long by 3 ft wide ramp. I believe that the height from the tailgate to the ground was around 35-36" with the tires that I had on it. There was no way I was going to be able to drive it up that ramp on flat ground, so I had to look around for a hill or ditch that would flatten out the angle on the ramp. On flat ground, a 6 ft ramp with a 3 ft tailgate height would mean a 30 degree angle [ sin(x) = opp/hyp, thus sin(x) = 3 / 6, thus sin(x) = 0.5, thus x = asin(0.5), thus x = 30 degrees]... For anything other than a high ground clearance dirt bike, you would scrape the bottom of the bike as you went over the edge where the tailgate met the ramp at that angle. I eventually found an elevated area which would allow the ramp to be basically flat and it was a non-event to put it in the bed of the pickup. Of course, the tailgate of the pickup could not be closed, but I strapped it down very well and it didn't move. One of the few times when it would have been nice to have an 8 ft bed in the pickup instead of the 6.25 ft one. Unloading it back home was a bit more difficult since things are a bit more flat around here. I ended up building a supplementary ramp to rest the bottom of the 6'x3' ramp on and that in combination with the slope of my driveway was enough to allow me to back it down while standing beside the bike.
I probably should have used my utility trailer. I'm not sure why I didn't -- maybe I didn't want to have to haul it that far and figured there would be a loading ramp nearby...
Great video, it's been very helpful! Do I need the tailgate support bars to load my 2018 Street Bob into my 2017 Ford F150?
Thank you! I’m not sure. Couldn’t hurt.
I learned years ago to go around forks just above fender mount this way the suspension of bike has free travel without straps ever becoming loose when suspension compresses when hitting bumps or turning. I also never use a hook in any tie down location using strap to go thru tie down eye then thru eye of hook. Just my opinion. Are others doin this way? What do you think? Also I do soft strap in rear to prevent side to side movements. Great video.
That’s a decent way to do it and will work in most cases. The way I show isn’t the only way to skin a cat. The problem with strapping a big heavy Harley right there is you can easily put pressure on the fender and mess up the paint or bend the fender. Also it doesn’t anchor the bike in as well as using the frame.
I tie down to the fork lowers by making 1 wrap around the fork lower. That way the forks will not compress while you are towing and the straps stay tight. I also put a blanket over the point where the ramp and trailer bed come together now. Be cause 1 time in the past I didn't and the kickstand spring broke because it hit the metal of the trailer and ramp This was on a 2007 Road King and my 2013 Wide Glide is even lower than the RK. Good tips I'm too scared to use my pick up bed even with a wide ramp. I never heard of that solid tail gate retainer before. Maybe with that and a wide ramp I would do it. I'm only 5' 8" now, even when I was in my 20s I was 5" 10" I'd be too scared to use a narrow ramp and walk it up. Now if I fell not only would I mess up the bike, I'd be injured too.
I've loaded at least 7 bikes (not running) into a F150 using only one 2x12 and two people. Hand break is key lol. Nice thing is I have a forklift and a nice skid for unloading.
I found that with the engine running, the bike is more stable. It’s the gyro effect of the crank rotating, just like the rotating wheels keep the bike upright at speed. So when you are backing the bike off the trailer or pickup, start it up and you will notice that it’s more stable and much easier to keep it upright.
Interesting. Thanks for this comment!
Rented a u-haul truck last winter to take my bike to the painter. Cold and several inches of snow on the ground. Getting that bike up into the truck was to say the least sketchy and heart pounding.
Wow..something free from Laidlaw?????? Great video and Jerry welded my shovelhead inner prmary in 1985. 35 years later still holding strong!!!
Nice I’ll let Jerry know his welding skills are still holding up 👍🏻
I have a fully enclosed trailer because a bike can be exposed to weather & road debris in an open trailer . Especially during long interstate Transports . I also have a Harley Cruiser Cradle AKA Condor wheel chock bolted into the floor . For years on my touring bikes I use the floor board support brackets that are welded into the frame under the floorboards with a soft tie on each side . Never an issue with the bike moving or never anything scratched too. I’d never transport my $30K Roadglide Special any other way period !
Awesome video! Really useful. Thanks a lot for sharing it.
Thanks for watching. 👍🏻
The skinny single ramp gave me such anxiety.
Yea. It’s kinda sketchy.
Me too
@@MattLaidlaw why didn't you back it off the single ramp?
Take a chill pill and call me in the morning
Once she’s going over - let go and move !!
I like getting a run for it (like Evil Knievel) and coasting up the ramp.
Great videos. As a fellow tall guy. 6’6” as well. What seat would you recommend for a 04 heritage softail?
Thank you for the excellent video. That is how I have been securing motorcycles for year's.loading yes and no.yave had more motorcycles in my past 36+ yrs then most have had vehicles.thank you again keep up the good work
Thanks man. Much appreciated.
I was hoping you would show how to safely load a dead Harley where you gotta get a good running start and put a lot of ass into getting up the ramp.
Just incase I need to bring my Road King into an authorized Harley Davidson service center.
That's when having a *very* low trailer or a winch and someone to help you might be convenient... :)
Really enjoy your videos! Thanks for sharing. Very informative. By the way, what type of polish you guys use ? Those bikes Shine !
Thanks.
Nothing is particular. Just H-D’s cleaners.
Absolute easiest way to tie down a bike: If it has an engine guard, tie down around the base of the engine guard on the left side, putting all pressure on the kick stand. As long as the bike is in 1st gear, it'll make it just fine, whether 10 miles or 1000. With exactly1 strap. It'll never budge an inch. Done it many times.
Being able to put a Harley on the back of a truck or trailer is an essential skill. In Australia we call them 'Blue Healers as they spend more time on the back of the ute than your blue healer dog.
LOL Still laughing on that