Don't mess with Pakleds - Star Trek With Context
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- Опубліковано 9 січ 2021
- One of the most underestimated species in Star Trek are the Pakleds. Despite having only one major appearance in the past Star Trek shows, they are still well known by fans. Usually used as a joke after the TNG episode "Samaritan Snare", they became a bigger threat in the newer Star Trek shows. It isn't known if we will see more about them in the future, but after their latest appearance, there seem to be much more potential for coming episodes with them.
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"They want instant knowledge, instant power and gratification."
Same.
ho doesnt?
That is exactly the description you could give to fans of modern Trek.
Sounds like the needs of an ordinary human....
It’s the motto of a generation
With the wrecks left over from the dominon war , it would makes sense that scavengers like the Pakleds would do this.
Matt, that is a brilliant connection! ⭐⭐⭐
The amount of wrecks would be a sure way to build a formidable fleet of scrap ships too, they’re like that kid that just kept adding to his Lego space ships
@@WriterPlaysMTG That is an excellent idea.💡
I don't remember what we were talking about, but your idea is fascinating.
Not enough likes.
I've done my part
Now I see why that Zakdorn in the scrapyard was so slow to cooperate.
"Your ship's uniqueness will be added to our own"
Your ship's uniqueness will be added to our go
@@PyronusSouria borg after assimilating pakleds
I don't have a big enough helmet to enjoy this.
Apparently they sell pills for that now... 🙂
You shouldn't enjoy the pakled you should fear them. They represent a very successful kind of evil. Although deemed dimwitted are able to master interstellar space travel and although seen as pushovers can easily manhandled other species in physical combat. The pallets don't seem to care about catharsis(learning or self correction)I believe they are not only scavengers but also cold blooded murders. Who simply extract information for personal gain-which is never achieved-and when that is successful they probably cut your throat and toss your body into space. I believe they don't care revelations or sentient personal growth of any kind. They want what they want and they want it now! The animated series when the ensigns run into their territory of space where aghast only to atumble upon a grave yard of ships. The question is what did they do with all the bodies!?
I'd loved to see Pakleds trying this shit on the Terran Empire. ... For about five minutes before the cruelty becomes too sickening.
I dunno, looking at the lower decks, mirror Pakleds might end up like the Orks from 40k.
@@awittyusernamepleaselaugh7481 So... Pakled that don't take a bath.
The thing is star trek people are not really acting like people in tng.
Just like a bunch of hippies if they acted like people's they would butcher the packlet for sports
Don't even kid about something like that.
Terrans probably do one of two things
1) Wipe Pakled out seeing them as inferior and too cunning to allow in their ranks. Or maybe that's what they want, a cunning race- however the flipside is while they're good at being devious they suck working with others.
2) They conscript Pakleds but torture the hell out of them to destroy resistance, then give the Pakled Emperor an agony collar to force compliance. Pakled are forced into groups where they're herded for fighting on the frontlines (Borg assimilate Pakled for tough resistance, Terrans can just use them as 40k Ogryns). Particularly cunning Pakled individuals could rise the ranks of Imperial Starfleet, as each Pakled is out for themselves not for their race now.
It's crazy to think that the commander who has proven to be the most effective at dealing with the Pakleds is Gowron.
I have this theory that the Pakleds' language is like the Tamarians, where their language get mucked by the universal translator, except instead of memes, the Pakleds sound 'simple'.
@@kokukokubin6092 But there's been enough experience now: it should be better for the Pakleds.
For what it's worth, it's possible to have 1 idiot out of 100 good captain. And it just happen that Gowron encountered that particular Pakled.
Borg or Pakled?: 'We will add your technology to our own.'
Assimilated species 64361. We are.......Pakleds. Resistance is.......broken........can you make us go?
Borg Queen: dam‘it we assimilated one of those space yelly beans, didn’t we? 🙄
I've got this feeling Pakleds would be oddly effective against the Borg.
IIRC the two are from the same region of space, but avoid each other. Apparently the Packled aren't considered worth assimilating while the Borg are seen as too dangerous and unlikely to fall for a ruse...at least not in the way they want.
Worf " should we really send our chief engineer 🤔" Riker "ah sure why not" Worf " Seriously, I think this is a bad idea" Riker "Tis Fine, nothing to worry about, send him" Worf "if he dies, he dies"
I was just watching this TNG episode. This is one of the few instances where Worf was absolutely correct, but as usual, they ignored his advice. It made no sense to send the chief engineer alone to an unknown vessel belonging to a species you barely know.
Warf should have just said, "NO! if it is so simple, send a red shirt" or, "I will go with him." I think that the head of security has the responsibility to not let Ryker's action go without conditions.
@@pforce9 In an alternate universe where the way Starfleet operates does reflect it being a military organization Riker has been kicked out of the organization for while they could have been avoided by a more competent person. Same applies to Picard in a way tho. Stating that Starfleet is not a military...the hell you are not. The organization that has a monopoly on force is the UFP's goverment and Starfleet is the whip of said government. So go to hell Picard, hypocrite incarnate.
@@charlesajones77 he is right more than one typically remembers. But they never listen to him when he is right.
@@charlesajones77 ua-cam.com/video/Eh56mTdFn8M/v-deo.html
I always imagined that the Pakleds would have their revenge on the Federation. I like to think that the last thing Riker hears in his life is a Pakled voice order his crew "make it...burn."
To be fair, Lower deck proved there far more dangerous than given credit.
@@bloglazer9410 Yeap, if they start learning... they could become new Borg.
and now they're one of the biggest threats in all of Trek XD
not really pakleds rely on ambush and deceit. ambush on the solvang and ambush on the cerritos.
a starfleet luna class ship like the USS Titan can go toe to toe with them no problem.
if starfleet deemed them a threat pakleds are pretty much screwed as they would most likely be blockaded by a fleet of ships and any pakled ship encountered would be impounded and arrested. and starfleet wouldn't be sending cali class ships after them either we're talking cruisers like the nebula class and above.
@@joeswanson733 and scavengers, When lower decks takes place is after the Dominion war. Gold mines of debris for Pakleds to take.
@@mattluvet yes as boimler pointed out that hte new pakled ships look like they've incorporated tech from at least 30 species. but if you watchd hte new episodes they mention that the pakled homeworld has been destroyed by a super bomb and evidence is pointing at captain freemans involvement.
Thus illuminating the value of the perspective that _anyone_ who bears you malice should be treated as a serious threat, no matter how much of a joke they are considered!
1:12 Diana, you're telling us this NOW???? Wow thanks for the assist, ship's therapist who gets to sit in the second officer chair on the bridge for no fucking reason except cleavage
you can always tell when someone is tricking the enterprise when Troi isn't on the bridge or when it's a species like the Ferengi who are immune to betazoid telepathy.
except deanna did warn riker right away, and he sent geordi anyway. riker was pretty dumb this episode... picard and wesley leave for one little shuttlecraft trip and it all goes bad.
DEanna did warn him idiot, but he still send Geordi so don't blame her!
0:57 Data: They are a relatively benign species.
1:50 Data: There is limited information available on the Pakled culture
That's not what you fucking said
Those two statements are not exclusive.
They could be seen as benign, hence as a result of this view, there is limited information about them.
@@And-ur6ol "They're benign, but actually, we have no fucking idea, so who knows, idklol"
@@And-ur6ol It also doesn't make sense that Starfleet, on its mission of exploration to find new life and new civilizations, wouldn't have spent more time with a culture they saw as benign. It's not like their mission is "seek out new cultures and go on vacation with them if they're evil"
@@romulusnr Maybe they just hadn't gotten around to it with bureaucratic red tape and all. The Federation is huge and slow moving often still exploring space they already claim dominion over. With so many species in their own territory let alone outside it, they might have just not had time to send any one.
Though you are right that Data should have mentioned that part about not much being known yet.
Where you have Borg assimilation and Ferengi who traded or bought things. There was bound to be a thieving species as well.
Aside from Orion
@@wyattsunkel1048 "Orion"?
Please explain.
@@TheNoiseySpectator they are the green people. Pirate species. There is an Orion officer in Lower Decks who resents her criminal heritage.
@@TheNoiseySpectator He means Orion Pirates, the green gals (and guys) that steal ships, own pirate/raider fleets and run smuggling rings. And have brothels with green supermodel girls everywhere servicing every compliable race in the galaxy
@@TheKnightOfSmite Oh yes.
How did I not know that?
This is terrifying. Their intent is spoken and laid to bare openly but its totally missed and their presumed slow.
honestly my head cannon is that the pallets are actually pretty smart they just are terrible at verbal communication so they seem like idiots, which would make sense as they are one of the only intelligent t species able to adapt other technologies to suit themselves
Are you sure that you're not a pallet???
> the pallets are actually pretty smart
Yes, so smart that one of their spies took a photograph of their foot and mistook an airlock for a restroom.
1:03 may have bad speak
I wish they ran with that premise a little more, more "Tamarian universal translator interprets their language weird" than "Literal idiots in space".
have you seen them in lower decks.
I still can't get the *"GO GUYS, GOOO!!!"* from later out of my head
wow... I didn't expect Pakleds to have been a preexisting species in Star Trek, never mind one that appeared in TNG
_All_ Star Trek since the first JJ movie has been an unconvincing skinsuit with "Star Trek" awkwardly stamped on it.
The one possible exception is Riker's scene in Picard.
@@DiggitySlice Yessss baby.
@@DiggitySlice I see nothing wrong with the Picard series and lower Decks is self aware hilarity , I admit I still can't get into Discovery but I like most of the recent Trek.
Fans often hate the newest iteration of trek. You all will be big fans by the time season 17 of Discovery comes about.
@@yegmeshjwp Thanks for gaslighting me. You’re very brave.
Troi being useless as always. Would have been really great if she had told the others about that profound insincerity she sensed from the Pakleds.
Also, dangerous thieving dummies with powerful weapons? ... Sounds like an analogy. 🤔
^ Sinophobic POS.
IKR!
I could have done without Troi being part of the series at all!
SHE DID TELL THEM YOU TWIT!!
@@TheNoiseySpectator And then they be all dead from sleep deprivation.
@@bloglazer9410 Well, I am talking about from a production stand point of view, not an "In Universe", plot continuity, type of.
When you think about it, the pakleds really are just the borg but incompetent
OH SHIIIIIIIT i never realized this before until I searched who played the Pakled captain in TNG cause his VOICE sounded familiar and its F'N Star Scream/ Cobra Commander
Lol no fucking way. Couldn't be totally different characters
@@jonbui4092
It's him. Christopher Collins also voiced the skeletal D'compose on the awesome but short lived Inhumanoids.
@@josephsheranda AKA Chris Latta.
Well, Troi really earned her Federation credits this time.
we are Pakleds we will eat you alive to become strong💪
"They want instant knowledge, instant power and gratification". "The more they get, the more they want". And later Riker adds "It's time we set some limits". And "I think you need to continue to develop".
Sounds a lot like dealing with your typical teenager.
"You think we are not smart. We are smart." Yeah, pretty much.
Honestly, the second half of this video may very well be the scene that gets me to watch ST: Lower Decks after I'm done with ST: Enterprise. This STLD scene is actually C H I L L I N G. Based on comments it appears to take place shortly after Voyager; this is the "missing fourth" TNG-era continuation series I've been hoping / looking for - with LCARS and TNG-era sfx intact.
Lower decks is the best new trek! It’s funny and filled with tons of references to TNG/DS9/VOY but the show has alot of heart too
"Lock on to Geordi's combadge, beam him back."
-Crisis averted.
"WE ARE BORG"
"We are Pakleds"
Just remember, this how the Pakleds sound to everyone _with_ their universal translators.
red alarm, rEd alaaarm🤪
ALL THE PIECES!
Pakleds, the short bus Borg.
Pakleds: "Galactic Superpower by 2370"
The Dominion made us strong.
The answer is simple. Send ships with no crews to Packled territory, packed with cloaked high-yield explosives. Let those morons take the ship into their cargo bay, then detonate the ship with self-destruct. You’d probably need Romulan help with the cloaking part, but if they have problems with Packled, I’m sure they’d oblige.
Dude the pakled conned the frigging romulan I think they be smart enough to smell that trap.
@@bloglazer9410
They’re a certain kind of smart, and they might very well see through the trap, but I bet you could slap something on the bomb saying “totally not a bomb” and they’d buy it.
no, no, you 'abandon' a 'highly advanced' 'secret' warship packed full of 'technology' and let it drift into their space. Each item is rigged with something pathogenic.
It's just regular tech, no actual weapons, but the pakleds would tear it apart and affix it to their own without a second thought.
They're a species with limited verbal communication, and no capacity for delayed gratification. They wouldn't check anything you gave them.
The captain of the Pakleds is played by Christopher Collins, a.k.a. Christopher Latta, who was the voice of Starscream in The Transformers cartoon, and Cobra Commander in G.I. Joe. He passed away in 1994. RIP.
What I really wanted to see is that when Jordi went back on board the Enterprise, he would tell Captain Picard that he set up a fatal imbalance in the Pakleds engine and their ship will implode in ten seconds.
So I dont remember any episode that ever explained exactly how the pakleds even got warp or ships.. their species seems pretty damn stupid overall and they use very simple tactics. Im assuming another species that had warp capabilities gave them technology so they could progress.
I think some source said the ferengi sold it to them
Ferengi, if I recall correctly. Also, their stupidity is more of a natural trick. Make themselves seem slow and harmless when in reality they can be pretty damn dangerous. Also, according to their description when choosing to play as one in Star Trek Online:
The Pakleds are a largely nomadic species that often trade, scavenge or steal from other species for their technology. Pakleds have underdeveloped verbal communication skills. Due to this, many people underestimate them, thinking that they are too intellectually challenged to be devious, which they use to their advantage.
While most Pakleds are politically unaligned, a few have chosen to join Starfleet, where they have demonstrated that they can become more than simple nomads or traders.
While they truly aren't particularly intelligent, the Pakled seem to be fully aware of how benign and unintelligent they appear to other species, and they take full advantage of it. Their managing to snatch some tech from the Romulans should be a clear indicator that they're far more intelligent than they let on.
@@bloglazer9410 I wouldn't consider that intellectual prowess.. more so a survival tactic their species developed through evolution in order to thrive.
The federation probably just gave it to them.
"What harm could they possibly do?"
The most intense moment in Star Trek history.
Instant gratification? Ah, so they’re teenagers.
dont mess with pakleds i think we found that out in star trek lower decks
"Did you hear an echo?"
Lmao the mic wasnt even cut off. Savage
Pakled Strong!
As a service engineer I can relate to Riker and Geordi
This yet another example of Counselor Troi's terrible performance as a psychic.
The Enterprise should have blown the Pakleds away at the end of the episode.
The Packleds lucked out, the Enterprise had to depart immediately to get Dr. Pulaski to the star base.
Otherwise, I agree, I'm sure they would be compelled by their general orders to neutralize any developing threat to the Federation that they encountered, with dispatch.
No. Keep the pakleds
This ship needs to be in STO
That Pakled is Cobra Commander's voice actor.
Well that’s kinda terrifying lol
The Pakleds saying all Starfleet ships Emterprise and all female captains Janeway, seems to suggest that this is their common nouns,
Like how in my house at least, we had already switched to Fresh and White and still call our toothpaste Colgate.
Oh, we do Colgate still, but we still call Indomie as Maggi.
The word Google, when using Bing.
Maybe, they don't have uncommon nouns? Not for anything beyond their own names, and when someone introduces themselves of a species they've not met, that person's name becomes the species name...But that expands to general appearances. A human female captain gets called Janeway because they met Janeway, a bald human captain would be Picard, etc.
Space Tards! Fire a full spread of Torpedoe🤗s.
FUCKING RICH FUCKING FULCHER. Fucking knew it, he's perfect to play a pakled. I'd swear Bob Fossil was based on em
1:58 - "They want instant knowledge, instant power and gratification."
Translation: The internet
Was that a Borg tractor beam!?
That was a first contact? Haven't they learned caution by now?
They are turning into the borg 🤣
The German title of Star Trek is weird af.
Spaceship Enterprise: the next century.
Just wait until they join the Federation ...
2:11 its like ben shapiro talking to wannabe activist
I know that the Enterprise needed to go to save Picard by bringing them Pulaski but it kinda sucks that there was no punishment for the Pakleds.
Those guys simply shot La Forge twice with a phaser!
Probably the reason why they got more power.
They assimilate technology…kind of like the Borg…heeheehee…
Lower Decks is the Best Star Trek yet !
Borg assimilate some and it's no longer a threat as Borg Collective IQ 8 wraps to 60
Chris Latta as the Pakled?
Why the hydrans dont have phaser g anymore.. the pakleds tookem all
Is that cartoon at the end a parody?
It's called Lower Decks. Unfortunately it's canon.
Is it true the Borg kill Pakled on sight, and see nothing in them worth adding to the collective?
No idea
Nah, the two just avoid each other. Oddly enough, they're from the same region of space.
Borg will probably take their technology as resources but don't assimilate the Pakleds. The only species I can remember that the Borg won't assimilate are the Kazon. At least when it comes to Seven of Nine's statement.
Thanks! Giant birds, "India" (Who wont give out the name of their people), Filo something, Black something, or erm Something erm... give me back my money! Or..... What this control point thing?
the dominion probably wiped them out already
While they truly aren't particularly intelligent, they seem to be fully aware of how benign and unintelligent they appear to other species, and they take full advantage of it. Their managing to snatch some tech from the Romulans should be a clear indicator that they're far more intelligent than they let on.'
Which means there smart enough to recognize a shark and lay low.
What animated series is this? Never heard of an animated Star Trek lol
It's "Lower Decks" and it's probably the best New Trek (post-Enterprise) series yet. Really fun, really funny, clearly written by people who totally love star trek.
Lower decks, personally, I find it dull, unimaginative and a departure from what star trek was. Im not gonna bother watching it anymore
It’s good. Nobody hates Star Trek like Star Trek fans. It’s mostly fan service jokes but I’m here for it.
@@sonacphotos "it's meant to be a fun animated show"
Then it's not meant to be star trek
@@sonacphotos and you're too easily entertained. Like an infant watching a pair of keys jangle. Pathetic.
Why did they not fire on the pakled 😅
The Cerritos
@@yvanpoaty2335 The Cerritos is a support ship. It isn't built for fighting something that size.
The biggest mistake done,was bringing them back in Lower Decks,they should have left them out,and explain their disappearance by saying they stupidly attacked the dominion,which promptly proceded in eradicating the entire pakled species.
Don't know if we can call it spoilers at this point but...
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The Pakleds blew a part of their planet off. That made them disappear for at least some episodes.
ho here is here? because star trek lower decks
I have nothing but politically incorrect things to say about Packleds. Needless to say, they are the worst
This is what it feels like to liberals trying to explain to conservatives why the world isn’t flat, JFK isn’t still alive, and how DJT lost…
Well... I suppose this kinda serves as a good example or metaphor, that stupidity/stupid people are a growing lesser evil that shouldn't be underestimated so easily.
Pakleds....millenials in a nutshell.
I seriously don't get the hate on Lower Decks. It's probably the best thing to come out with the Star Trek name on it since the enterprise or voyager. Star trek that people want is gone, and I still don't get why, it's just horrible in everyway and trynna push political correctness. Lower decks is a lil more self aware and the characters aren't obnoxious. Discovery and Picard would make a trek purist cry, lower decks is a lil more fun, but probably more in line with what trek could've been if it wasn't for horrible writing and relying completely on former actors.
I have an answer for you.
I enjoy "STLD" very much, but I see it has a _great flaw,_ one that Roddenberry deliberately engineered out of TOS, but was deliberately engineered _into_ STD!
To understand any given episode, you already have to be familiar with the series, or even the whole genré!
Like here; if you had been a casual viewer of TNG and had missed this episode, or forgot about it, then you would not understand much of the STLD episode entitled.... 🤔
Well, I don't know, the first one with the Packleds.
I, for one, object to that familiarity being a requirement because it impedes people new to the Star Trek genré from becoming Trekkies.
(The word "Isoteric" comes to mind, but I can't think how to spell it, so I won't use it).
@@TheNoiseySpectator i highly disagree on your assessment. i am a new trekkie fan yet i adore it when there is consistency on the show. and i get to learn about the lore better and better by being introduced to old facts and pieces of lore such as these, then i would be able to learn more about them from old episodes of other shows. discovery on the other hand butchered the lore and made it very inconsistent, changed alot of the races, while lower decks on the other hand respected the lore and presented the show consistent with the star trek universe
@@wisn6327 I am glad to hear that. ☺️
But, don't you ever hear them talking about something on L.D. and think "hu? What does that mean?"
@@TheNoiseySpectator well, yeah, but then i could get more thrill from the show by searching about it after the episode, extends my enjoyment further by the 'ohhh so thats what they were!' moment :D
Most racist depiction of aliens ever.
2:55 WOKE Trek sucks.
So what do you think Star Trek was before the modern era?
Because Star Trek is by far the most aggressively "woke" sci-fi series in history.
This is a franchise where the actors made themselves look like idiots for hours simply to sabotage TV executives attempts to stop the first ever interracial kiss on public television from airing.
The Pakled’s remind me of Republican. Not very smart.
they sound like Republican, we look for things things that make us go lol
We are smart...and strong! We look for things...to make us go. I am a Republican, and I find that I do oddly identify with the Pakleds. Might as well take the L on it.
similarly with democrats have you heard the noises they make when joe biden says "chocolate chocolate chip"?
Hee hee
Dem goes, "Reeee."
"Looks like the pakleds aren't a joke amymore"
You're right, Stwr Trek is a joke now thank to that cartoon.
Star Trek became a joke when Discovery came out. At least Lower Decks is self-aware about their joke status.
@The_Enterprise Honestly, Lower Decks feels VERY MUCH like Star Trek to me. Discovery and Picard don't -- they're a disgrace to the name, honestly -- but Lower Decks is actually GOOD. It has that classic Star Trek TNG charm, well-developed and likable characters who play off of each other well, creative episode concepts, and a respect for existing series lore (something Discovery and Picard definitely do NOT have!).
I don't feel like Lower Decks is a joke, nor like it's not trying to be Star Trek. Rather, I feel like Lower Decks is the first real Star Trek we've had since Enterprise was canceled. Orville aside. And I, for one, can't wait to see more!
Man you're really missing out if you can't find anything to love in Lower Decks. It couldn't be more clear that it's written by people who understand and love what Trek is all about.
@@Lucretiel Nathan, what is Star Trek about?
@@UltraGalaxyify its about funny nihilism and ineptitude right??
at 1:47, imagine the crew is talking about the WOKE community and the parallels are almost frightening.
Things we need
Ew. Is that lower decks? Disgusting.
lower decks still sucks ass As a Star Trek media as a Rick and Morty universe it's fine
The art is CLEARLY Final Space inspired.
@@bloglazer9410 it's CLEARLY Rick and Morty Star Trek what if
@@firedragon9066 Other than animation style, how is lower decks related to rick and morty?
@@Gatewayuser200 same creative wrighters/humor and story telling that and has about as much of a link to Star Trek as Star Wars does