Did Kiener's years ago, we went up the snow field (beginning at 11:59), went pretty smooth. Topped that out, short rap to start traverse. An absolute Colorado Alpine classic, nice job climbing, protecting and the video was great. Brought back some great memories for me, Stettners Ledges, Casual Route, Cables. Longs was always my happy place.
@@ledged_up I just soloed Kieners a few days ago. Much different experience than the Notch in a 3 group rope party. Felt good to move fast solo on dry rock. Congrats to you guys too!
Badass!! Loved that you guys seemed to be very smart w where you used pro and made this all look easy. Ill stick to my keyhole route but thanks for taking us up the more adventureous routes!
6:55 Ho Lee fudge! Couldn’t quite catch but sounded like “that’s why it’s not as easy to do unprotected…” 😳😱that traverse an wall my heart would be pounding 💩
We did, due to the intermittent ice and snow on the route, it would have taken too long to remove crampons for the rock sections, so it was proper "mixed climbing". Doesn't feel great at first but you get used to finding good places to place the crampon points.
I'd recommend joining Colorado Mountain Club (or similar club for your area) and doing some of their meetups/activities - great way to find people to climb with
Jetta, are you being serious? No, there's no way to find places to climb or people to do it with. Climbing is a super-secret, limited-access society of clandestine kung fu ninjas. That's all I'm authorized to tell you.
The snow on the slide was soft enough to be able to self-arrest. The rope just adds a little extra safety here if someone were to fall and slide- you'd have the other two team members arresting the fall. If it were more icy we'd have wanted to place pro since one person falling would likely bring the whole team down. In the conditions we had we probably could have done it without the rope though since each person could likely arrest themselves.
@c.5376, you're right but actually, for most of this route they would ALL have eaten it if ANY of them fell, supposedly for the sake of bragging about car-to-car elapsed time and summiting early. The way these guys roped up is more appropriate for glacier travel on level or moderate terrain and at least that gives the other climbers a theoretical chance to belay over short sections when necessary or rescue a team member who falls in a crevasse or bergschrund. These techniques are difficult, low-percentage in many cases, and require special training and practice, during which you will get beaten up pretty good before you can do it semi-reliably. However, unbelayed simul-climbing on steep technical ground is only for experts and only justified for speed in the sole interest of safety or survival (like to outrun an electrical storm or move together quickly through a dangerous avalanche or rockfall zone). Or if you just wanna tie yourself to your bros and film your own version of The Eiger Sanction to prove you think you're willing to die together. Most of the time that doesn't happen though, but it sure can. If something CAN happen it eventually will. In effect though they're each free-soloing, yet not in independent charge of their own destiny if someone else falls. I don't begrudge these guys for quasi-courageous bro-bonding. I admit I've done it myself when I was young, ten feet tall and bulletproof. I did several great technical peak routes in Colorado this way- very audacious but only tied to one climber, we were certified badasses in the mountains who could climb way harder than anything we were attempting, and we stopped to belay normally whenever it got difficult or hairy. One thing I will criticize these folks for is not keeping multiple bomber points of running protection between them at all times as a fail-safe, and they passed a thousand good opportunities to do that on this route. The video was thrilling and I enjoyed it, and I thank the climbers for taking me back vicariously to the glory days of youth. But I don't recommend climbing with them, at least not in this style.
@@Bustercruz Buster, as I read my own words I feel like I went a little hard on the guys but what I said is true, and at least five people have agreed so far by clicking 'like.' Folks can climb as they wish if it doesn't harm someone else- I sure did when I was young. Simul-climbing is one way to bet your skill against the things that can go wrong if you're too slow in the mountains and get caught in the wrong place at the wrong time. We have to weigh that risk as we go. You're already gambling by simply hiking into the mountains and away from help. Admittedly moving a roped party of three up the entire east face of Long's could take a long time if everybody gets belayed the whole way, and high peaks don't normally give you all day to just carefully take your time. I think three on a rope simo is great on snow and glacier travel but highly inadvisable on vertical rock and I never did that or saw the advantage. If this video was of a party of two doing this technique, while putting in solid running protection between the climbers and stopping occasionally to belay for some sections, I would've noted the potential dangers in my mind but been able to enjoy their bold adventure and would not have said anything about it because they actively managed the risks, and were successful and home that evening for beers. But no matter how good and lucky you are, it can always go wrong quickly from factors out of your control or simply because someone f--ked up. I don't want to either kill or be killed by someone else on my team because one of us fell and dragged the team off the mountain. Oh well, just some thoughts. Thanks for yours.
@@markpell8979 I completely agree. The thing for me is this... If these were 3 buddies going out on an adventure I really have no judgments. I'v done quite a bit of soloing and simul-climbing myself and agree that people should be free to take the risks and play as they want as long as it doesn't put others in harms way. This video is not 3 buddies though, it's a guide from one of the largest companies in the state and two clients. Mountain climbing will always be dangerous but these clients paid for a certain level of risk management that is clearly lacking. I'm a guide as well, and I really don't like questioning other guides - but often times clients are unaware of wether or not their guide is doing things well or not. I've climbed Longs Peak over 60 times and I've guided this route over a dozen times and watching the video there are some times where one small stumble from any 3 climbers could result in all 3 taking a fatal fall. Speaking from experience this is not at all necessary. It doesn't take much extra time for a competent guide to place some gear or belay the exposed sections and still get the route done in a respectable car to car time. To be fair, there are many times in this video where there appears to be an adequate belay, but there are other times where there is not. The moment at 7m38s makes me incredibly nervous to watch. There appears to be no gear, no belay, lots of slack in the rope and massive exposure below. I know for a fact that it's totally possible to belay that section. Cheers.
Insane route!! Thanks for uploading this amazing camera footage. I see this mountain every day from Greeley
I like this stuff! Great video! Liked and subscribed !!👍
Did Kiener's years ago, we went up the snow field (beginning at 11:59), went pretty smooth. Topped that out, short rap to start traverse. An absolute Colorado Alpine classic, nice job climbing, protecting and the video was great. Brought back some great memories for me, Stettners Ledges, Casual Route, Cables. Longs was always my happy place.
Being up there definitely makes me want to go back for other routes too
Congrats! One of the numerous brilliant routes up Longs.
Got me featured in the rear. Thanks for setting the booter fellas. We summited wayyyy after you guys that day going up the notch.
Glad you guys made it up, congrats! We were wondering about you all.
@@ledged_up I just soloed Kieners a few days ago. Much different experience than the Notch in a 3 group rope party. Felt good to move fast solo on dry rock. Congrats to you guys too!
Badass!! Loved that you guys seemed to be very smart w where you used pro and made this all look easy. Ill stick to my keyhole route but thanks for taking us up the more adventureous routes!
That was an impressive route!
So sick! Hadn't heard of this route before, I can confirm I will not be trying it but it was a great watch, kudos!
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WOW - Great climb!! Video editing's mighty fine too. Cheers Ken
This video was amazing! Subscribed! 🤙
Agreed, awesome video.
Impressive
6:55 Ho Lee fudge! Couldn’t quite catch but sounded like “that’s why it’s not as easy to do unprotected…” 😳😱that traverse an wall my heart would be pounding 💩
Umm, not sure on what I'm seeing & hearing, but are y'all keeping your crampons on while climbing on the rock? Seems very sketchy.
We did, due to the intermittent ice and snow on the route, it would have taken too long to remove crampons for the rock sections, so it was proper "mixed climbing". Doesn't feel great at first but you get used to finding good places to place the crampon points.
Any place I can find people to climb with that you recommend?
I'd recommend joining Colorado Mountain Club (or similar club for your area) and doing some of their meetups/activities - great way to find people to climb with
Jetta, are you being serious? No, there's no way to find places to climb or people to do it with. Climbing is a super-secret, limited-access society of clandestine kung fu ninjas. That's all I'm authorized to tell you.
@@markpell8979 When you are new to the area and have a job that keeps you isolated, it is kinda tricky to find people to climb with,
@@ledged_up I joined last month, and it has been great. Thanks!
Is this where they found the missing climber last month?
That's right, body was found on Lamb's Slide I believe, poor soul
Close-roped on Lambslide but with no running pro between anyone? Make this make sense, please. That's a crevasse-only technique, you know?
The snow on the slide was soft enough to be able to self-arrest. The rope just adds a little extra safety here if someone were to fall and slide- you'd have the other two team members arresting the fall. If it were more icy we'd have wanted to place pro since one person falling would likely bring the whole team down. In the conditions we had we probably could have done it without the rope though since each person could likely arrest themselves.
Great video, but a lot harder than it looks.
take the music out
Interesting way of tying in... seems dude in the middle.gonna take it if the third slips
Definitely true, we did it this was to be able move faster since the risk of fall was relatively low. But it has drawbacks for sure.
@c.5376, you're right but actually, for most of this route they would ALL have eaten it if ANY of them fell, supposedly for the sake of bragging about car-to-car elapsed time and summiting early. The way these guys roped up is more appropriate for glacier travel on level or moderate terrain and at least that gives the other climbers a theoretical chance to belay over short sections when necessary or rescue a team member who falls in a crevasse or bergschrund. These techniques are difficult, low-percentage in many cases, and require special training and practice, during which you will get beaten up pretty good before you can do it semi-reliably. However, unbelayed simul-climbing on steep technical ground is only for experts and only justified for speed in the sole interest of safety or survival (like to outrun an electrical storm or move together quickly through a dangerous avalanche or rockfall zone). Or if you just wanna tie yourself to your bros and film your own version of The Eiger Sanction to prove you think you're willing to die together. Most of the time that doesn't happen though, but it sure can. If something CAN happen it eventually will. In effect though they're each free-soloing, yet not in independent charge of their own destiny if someone else falls. I don't begrudge these guys for quasi-courageous bro-bonding. I admit I've done it myself when I was young, ten feet tall and bulletproof. I did several great technical peak routes in Colorado this way- very audacious but only tied to one climber, we were certified badasses in the mountains who could climb way harder than anything we were attempting, and we stopped to belay normally whenever it got difficult or hairy. One thing I will criticize these folks for is not keeping multiple bomber points of running protection between them at all times as a fail-safe, and they passed a thousand good opportunities to do that on this route. The video was thrilling and I enjoyed it, and I thank the climbers for taking me back vicariously to the glory days of youth. But I don't recommend climbing with them, at least not in this style.
@@markpell8979 For sure... there are some very poor rope techniques used in this video.
@@Bustercruz Buster, as I read my own words I feel like I went a little hard on the guys but what I said is true, and at least five people have agreed so far by clicking 'like.' Folks can climb as they wish if it doesn't harm someone else- I sure did when I was young. Simul-climbing is one way to bet your skill against the things that can go wrong if you're too slow in the mountains and get caught in the wrong place at the wrong time. We have to weigh that risk as we go. You're already gambling by simply hiking into the mountains and away from help. Admittedly moving a roped party of three up the entire east face of Long's could take a long time if everybody gets belayed the whole way, and high peaks don't normally give you all day to just carefully take your time. I think three on a rope simo is great on snow and glacier travel but highly inadvisable on vertical rock and I never did that or saw the advantage. If this video was of a party of two doing this technique, while putting in solid running protection between the climbers and stopping occasionally to belay for some sections, I would've noted the potential dangers in my mind but been able to enjoy their bold adventure and would not have said anything about it because they actively managed the risks, and were successful and home that evening for beers. But no matter how good and lucky you are, it can always go wrong quickly from factors out of your control or simply because someone f--ked up. I don't want to either kill or be killed by someone else on my team because one of us fell and dragged the team off the mountain. Oh well, just some thoughts. Thanks for yours.
@@markpell8979 I completely agree. The thing for me is this... If these were 3 buddies going out on an adventure I really have no judgments. I'v done quite a bit of soloing and simul-climbing myself and agree that people should be free to take the risks and play as they want as long as it doesn't put others in harms way. This video is not 3 buddies though, it's a guide from one of the largest companies in the state and two clients. Mountain climbing will always be dangerous but these clients paid for a certain level of risk management that is clearly lacking. I'm a guide as well, and I really don't like questioning other guides - but often times clients are unaware of wether or not their guide is doing things well or not. I've climbed Longs Peak over 60 times and I've guided this route over a dozen times and watching the video there are some times where one small stumble from any 3 climbers could result in all 3 taking a fatal fall. Speaking from experience this is not at all necessary. It doesn't take much extra time for a competent guide to place some gear or belay the exposed sections and still get the route done in a respectable car to car time. To be fair, there are many times in this video where there appears to be an adequate belay, but there are other times where there is not. The moment at 7m38s makes me incredibly nervous to watch. There appears to be no gear, no belay, lots of slack in the rope and massive exposure below. I know for a fact that it's totally possible to belay that section. Cheers.
is this some kimda AI shit?
No AI whatsoever, just used an insta360 camera attached to my backpack to capture 360 degree footage