Jim Cornette on Kevin Nash Using The Term "Vanilla Midgets"
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- Опубліковано 21 кві 2021
- From Episode 188 of Jim Cornette's Drive Thru
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Triple H spent his entire career burying vanilla midgets and now he runs a brand built around them😂
Chris Benoit would disagree with that statement, if you consider him a vanilla midget, I don't.
The big bad booty daddy ain’t no vanilla midget!
@@CyberSoulLover Steiner is maybe 5'10, they bill him at 6'2 but hes nowhere near that
@Peter Stevenson It sure should be a pinned comment.
Wresting today is a joke compared to what it once was.
Guys that are 'Top Guys' in todays business wouldn't have even been able to
be jobbers 20-40 years ago.
Why?
Vanilla Midgets basically.
@@CyberSoulLover Nash had vanilla quads.
Dean Malenko doing the Texas cloverleaf was a thing of beauty and believable.
@Damage Case563 the way he did it, is his point
I'd rather watch a Dean Malenko vs those 2 lame dudes in masks with dumb names on WWE!
@@CJBrowninLV That's not saying much. I'd rather watch paint dry than most anything on WWE
Love that move!
My favorite leg submission
You don't have to be 6'4 to be a main event star, but at least have a great physique and have personality to make up for the lack of height. If you can be 5'11 and be jacked with a ton of charisma/personality, you are fine. Heck, if you have to wear some Elevator Shoes to add a few inches while having a great physique, that would be even better cuz not everyone has the genetics. Most guys today don't realize how important "presentation" is
Macho Man was a perfect example. He was only legit 5'11 . But nobody realized it . He looked alot bigger than he was on TV .
@@MrJjburgess11 Heck yeah brother, guy was a tank for his height and drew TONS of money.
That's so true cuz Ric flair Shawn Michaels Bret Hart they're all about 5'11 right under the 6-ft mark
Finn Balor is one of the most toned wrestlers there is, and people still bitch about his height.
@@almightycinder it's because he is toned and barely does a power move. Balor, Cole, O'Reily all seem pretty small. Now if you really want to see a smaller guy who can hang with giants then it's AJ Styles. He has power moves, he has submission, he has high flying moves and most of all when he wrestles it looks like he is trying to win the match not put on a performance.
Billy gunn looks like andre the giant compared to rest of that roster....he never looked that big in the WWF
I was thinking about his match on AEW this week, while Jim was explaining to the people.
Its because AEW is full of vanilla midgets
@El Gusanillo Del Juego idk why AEW keeps on signing vanilla midgets
@El Gusanillo Del Juego Khan should do Twinkamania every April.
@@michaelkumar6424 maybe because khan is also short and has a complex.
It’s funny cause he also adores and talks up Mysterio, even shorty after wcw. He recognizes talent and uniqueness.
Yes! Mysterio has character and not vanilla. Plus, his match psychology is just one of the kind so he can get away with being small size
@@dank3660 hes a spicy midget!
@@petebagwell6666 spicy nugget
The thing is when one small guy is amongst bigger guys he stands out, when the entire industry looks like it people don't watch it.
@@vb2806 basically, the leaning tower of pizza is popular because it's leaning, but if everyone building is leaning, no one would care
Johnny Sameface makes Chris Benoit look like Brock Lesnar
Because, with the exception of Brock, they can't take steroids anymore. Benoit wouldn't have been 220 naturally.
@@almightycinder I miss the steroids
@@almightycinder Benoit definitely can’t weigh over 200
Gargano is great he's more charismatic than some others and he can have a great match w anyone. I dont like his current character however,he was more effective as a babyface in the feud w ciampa
@@thesmogo the steroids were dangerous though. They were gonna kill Benoit if it weren't for him killing himself with his family. It gave him an enlargened heart.
I would love to see Rick Rude take a walk through the AEW locker room
That's a scary thought
That would be very interesting and probably bad for other wrestlers
@Brandon colt, Rude would've LAUGHED at $ mark Khan's roster, Harley would've too.
@@TheSportsfan35 Even Hogan was afraid of Harley Race
That would be a lion walking among sheep. Rick Rude was the real deal.
Now THIS is a thumbnail. Hahaha
ah ha ha bruh, you broke the internet
90's Nash would have a field day with the short spotfest wrestlers today.
Nash: I warned you but you wanted to call me a hater.
Jim would call out Nash on his terrible booking in WCW
@@psychobluesfxt mid 00's Nash would pin them into a game show tournament
They’d be playing big rig sounds while he did spots in the ring. They’d make him wear a trucker hat and be an all around buffoon. Big Daddy Cool wouldn’t be a thing. Every promo would be littered with trucker lingo to really hammer home that his name is Diesel.
90’s Nash, “You wouldn’t be tall enough to get on a ride at Disney Land”
I've just updated myself to 6'1" to sound more dangerous
🤣🤣
- 5'1
Oh shit, please don’t hurt me please I beg of you
Make sure to tell them you are a "lean 235" as well so they know you are jacked.
Every AEWpromo sounds like they’re trying to yell but Deep down they realize it’s bullshit and can’t even come to grips to take it seriously
Chris Benoit was short but was incredibly well built.He had similar stature and physique to Mike Tyson. Benoit looked legit. Most of these AEW guys hell no they dont look like legit athletes that could f someone up.
No
@@PBLightning145yes
Nowadays even the 7 footers are vanilla
A vanilla 7 footer will still sell more tickets than a vanilla midget and just a midget in general
Plus, they don’t measure up...most wrestling “giants” are around 6foot 8.
@@ronlitton9885 Except Omos. Dude is legit taller than Andre and Khali.
There are a ton of vanilla giants: Oz; Vinnie Vegas; Steel, the Master Blaster, etc.
Yeah Nash was a big draw.
Put Jim and Nash in a room together with a mic and Sean Oliver. That would be entertaining.
Bro that’s actually fucking money lol
I would pay for it, just like I've paid for about 12 kayfabe commentaries timelines and back to the territories
Nash would tear his quad.
@@maosama3695 LOL
@@maosama3695 Cornette would tear him a new quad. The guy made Brock Lesnar cry for crying out loud.
Corny nails it right on the head; Nash used it as a blanket term rather than applying it to those who actually deserve it who over-rely on moves and don't have enough character and personality (i.e a third of the NXT roster, 50% of the AEW, and most of the modern indies)
Anyone not in his close circle of friends seemed to be a ''a vanilla midget''. Funny how that works.
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sometimes i think Jim knows that if he explains a bizarre visual, Travis is gonna use that as the thumbnail
These thumbnails are legendary.
He captures the likeness of everyone well
@@SamsarasArt the art is just amazing.
*Travis deserves a RAISE!*
Love Nash’s face in this. Lol!
You can make a Book just on the Thumbnails.
Beniot always looked legit like he could murder somebody
Ohhhh the irony..
@@Raze_DJ2 ;)
Yep women and children which explains the midget not trying kill a man
Thatz dark
😶
For fuck sake they list Adam Cole as 6ft 215 pounds. If that's true I'm Andre the Giant
He's probably like 5'10 or shorter tbh. If he had a better physique then his height or look wouldn't be too much of a glaring issue. Shawn Michaels wasn't all that tall but he had an incredible physique, same with Stone Cold.
@@Raze_DJ2 yup. Davey Boy Smith was probably 5'11 tops. But because he was jacked. He was still considered a big guy .
@@MrJjburgess11 Yeah, guys back then cared about their presentation cuz that's all people are gonna see on the posters. Any of those guys would be big stars in today's wrestling.
@Aaron Lassiter Oh yeah I remember that visual, Cole really needs to bulk up and wear some elevator shoes (If he can work in them) to boost his height.
Andre's height was exaggerated by like 6".
Benoit was short and bland personality wise but he was still believable cause of how aggressive he was and he still had a great physique. As for Jericho and Eddie being vanilla,they had more personality and charisma in their fingers than Nash did in his whole body.
I always like Benoit's personality on screen. He's one of those guys that needed a manager or a team with him, so he could just stand in the background, look mean and flex.
Nash is one of the most charismatic and entertaining personalities in all of wrestling. The funny thing is, when he first said the vanilla midget comment it was in WCW, it was about Benoit, Eddie, and Dean and at the time, those 3 were pretty bland. Eddie didn't really break through with a personality until he got to the WWF. A lot of those guys were vanilla but to try and say Jericho and Eddie had way more personality and charisma than Nash is just ridiculous. Yeah they had better matches, that was pretty much it.
@@waxoftriple9 Nash is boring as fk. He played a typical jock 😂
Looks like he's touched a nerve with you 😉
All the jock kids take the girls you liked?
@@waxoftriple9 The problem is that he's only charismatic and entertaining *off* screen. On TV he was a boring worker and pretty immobile because he didn't train legs
People don’t understand that Nash loved working with the younger smaller guys in TNA. He wasn’t just “friends” with them on screen he was friends backstage with them as well. Alex Shelly, Chris Sabin, Jay lethal, he helped them find their gimmicks. He knew how hard working and talented they were and he just wanted to help them get over more with the fans. He gave Jay lethal the black machismo gimmick with Randy savages blessing and Jay went from a talented young guy no one cared about to the biggest star of the X division and beat Kurt angle. He got the motor city machine guns together and gave them that edgy attitude everyone loved.
And when team 3D legit injured Chris Sabin and didn’t protect him during a match he laid into them hard back stage for not looking out for younger guys
Arguably, he was more than friends with his 'baby bear' Shelley....
Looks like we found Nash’s UA-cam account
Agreed, Jim. Mike Mondo: 5' 7", 5' 8" maybe, 212 lbs, good on the mic and can do a bit of everything. Perry Saturn: 5' 11", approximately 230 lbs, co-invented a double-team finisher and had a memorable look, just wasn't the best talker. Homicide: 5' 10", 220 lbs, not the best talker, but got over thanks to the right gimmick. MCMG: 5' 10" each, 420 lbs combined, got over cause they could do a bit of everything and both of them could talk. Davey Richards: 5' 8", 202 lbs, had a great look, technically good in the ring and could talk, even Low Ki has an intimidating look for a smaller guy!
Jim Cornette as Rambo aka Jimbo
WHAT'S POPPIN JIMBO !?
Jimbone!
Imma call em, JAMBO....
I loved watching Dean Malenko in the ring; he was the model of precision and finesse.
His personality wasn't obvious in promos, but it came through in spades while he was wrestling - despite his lack of size, his ability convincingly portrayed the idea that he could pick absolutely anyone apart and make them tap out between the ropes.
For the most part the best wrestlers are balanced and have it all. The look. Can wrestle and are good on the mic. But imo sometimes guys aren't as balanced but are really, really good at one of the criteria. Malenko was so good in the ring I didn't care about that he wasn't as big as the others. He was actually good on the mic. He didn't even get a chance to show it. He did a promo once and I thought ''He's actually good on the mic''. It was ''believable''.
Nah bro. Dean Malenko could never pick apart a randy orton and certainly not a kevin nash
This is why they say Rey Mysterio is 5'6" when he is really 5'3".
And Crash Holly was over 400 pounds.
He’s 5’5 , when he wrestled Eddie he wasn’t that far off his height
@@Daniel-js2dk Eddie was called a small guy too.
They do that for everyone. Hulk Hogan was billed between 6'6 to 6'8.
@@dang2320 - Well Hulk Hogan was 6'6. He was billed at 6'8. Just like Taker was billed at 6'10 but he's really 6'8.
Roderick Strong can't promo for nothin, but in that ring he can't be touched. That man is a beast.
Agree
And that’s why he hasn’t peaked and will never be a household name.
i think he will be stuck in the evil midcard vortex for a long time
Roderick has evolved so much though on the mic. See his ROH promos and compare them to now. Complete difference.
Give Roderick the US title and give him 7-10 minute matches on TV every week and he will get over.
Gargano looks like he would be the same size as his action figure
gargano use to wrestle in my town every month right before going to wwe. him n champa both.. gargano is shorter than me n im 5'6 .. champa is about my height but super big guy, they are both in great shape
iv seen 5 foot guys who are like 250 lbs all muscle. lol..
I could see Cornette in a remake of “Stop or my mom will shoot” lol
Hell yeah
Nash has the best shoot interviews on youtube.
Naw, that'd be Corny, but Nash's are good. He does say "fucking" too much, tho...As much if not more than Russo says "bro". It's not offensive; it just becomes redundant.
Nash with the goat quote about Meltzers 5 star matches. “Aboozago vs Dapozigo in the Korokean Hall” 🤣
Nash had great charisma and a good look but he couldn’t wrestle that well 🤷♂️
@@derekazyan9942 He didn't need to be a technician. What he did do, he did well.
@@AJ-xv7oh Six moves of doom, including the hair flip.
Benoit was a beast! The Wolverine!
chris benoit legit looked scary and strong enough to be able to fight bigger guys
If lack of a neck on Benoit (just a head setting on a pile of muscle) didnt let people know he could go then, when he got in the ring he was more then a handful.
Facts! he legit the toughest small guy WWE ever produced. So intense! And could pick up anyone. Him and Eddie Guerrero is the reason small guys were given a chance in WWE
He was a beast. When someone made some open challenge and his music hit, you see their face drop. He made guys bigger look real small once he got his hands on them.
His Chops
HE was THE WOLVERINE. The most comic book accurate Logan should have been Benoit. The height, physique, the facial hair. Would have loved to see him in the 1st X-MEN film...
People mocked and berated Nash for this line but 20 years later there's an entire fed on TNT based around them.
Tbh they mostly mocked he said it about the lying, cheating, stealing, Mamacita loving Latino heat Eddie Guerrero. When Eddie was like the furthest thing from a vanilla wrestler, Eddie was charismatic as hell.
It is a term that is insulting, but a clear observation when used properly.
A lot of people get stuck on the midget part referring to height, but they gloss over the vanilla part that refers to appeal/star power.
You may be able to get by being one or the other, but being both is not good.
@@AlphaProto Kevin Nash isn't the one who should call anyone boring. He was boring as shit himself. Big injury prone doofus only stayed relevant all those years because of NWO
Facts
@King Slayer Nash never drew any real money LOL He almost put the WWF outta business and the nWo was the draw in WCW not Nash on his own
Now I need to see a Cartoon picture of Jim Cornette as Stallone as Judge Dredd. 😆 😆 😆 😆
Jim is taller than Stallone, so it wouldn't look too out of place.
i was thinking weird al in the movie uhf
I AM THE LAW!!
@ Jamaal Moses: Stephen P New walks in, “ NO I AM THE LAW” insert Stephen’s theme
@@louis3141 😆 😆 😆
Dean Malenko had an amazing theme song. It sounded like it belonged in a Timothy Dalton 007 movie.
Dean Malenko belonged in a Roger Moore 007 movie. He could have been Nick Nack in The Man With The Golden Gun.
What about his wcw theme
He would have made a great bond villain. 'Cloverleaf'. Kills people by stretching them out.
@@herecomesdatrain His WCW theme sounded like something straight out of Star Fox. lol
If it’s used to describe someone like Eddie Guerrero or Chris Benoit then I completely disagree.
If it’s used to describe someone like Johnny Gargano or Humberto Carrillo then hell yes I agree.
When Eddie and Chris were against bigger dudes, I genuinely forget there was a size difference because they could convince everyone that it was an even match.
They weren't vanilla but they were small and ratings actually went down when Eddie was champ so he dropped it to JBL. Eddie was entertaining and he was world championship worthy but those guys can never be made to look dominant in front of someone like Lesnar, Austin or Rock. As soon as their underdog story is over they lose steam.
@@dazitmane8905 Probably because of the steroids they were taking made them look bigger.
Benoit in comparison to Ultimate Warrior
Vanilla midget
Wait of all names you could mention? Humberto Carillo? I saw this guy on raw recently....he's definitely vanilla but that could also be because of the language barrier. He's not a midget though, he isn't small at all. He's billed at 6'1 even if he's an inch or 2 smaller than that he's still a lot bigger then the other guys you mentioned.
Kevin Nash is a vanilla giant
Braun Strowman is a vanilla giant
😂🤣🤣🤣 Johnny Gargano!!!!
Bianca Belair makes Alexa Bliss look like Dolly Parton
We don't she hulks
Alexa Bliss has a lot of intangibles that Bianca will NEVER have.
I still rather smash Belair though
Tough case. Belair looks better without makeup while alexa looks better with makeup. So it's pretty much a toss up
Bianca is more attractive than Bliss with or without makeup. I like her look more as far as attire and the long hair braid is a unique look than not many ever had if ever. She always more charismatic. Bianca beats Bliss all round honestly to me
Name a vanilla midget
Cornette: "Half the AEW roster"
The man is a gift
5:30
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Half? It's Like 92%.
I love the idea of a faction calling themselves the “vanilla midget crew”
I recently watched Shibata vs Ishii from
2013 G1 and it was an example of two smaller wrestlers who made you suspend disbelief on their height because their work looked so credible and legitimate.
Everytime Marko Stunt is allowed to enter a wrestling ring and make guys sell for him, it makes the legitimate wrestlers look like jokes. No booker who wants to present a sports based product would feature that little troll as a professional wrestler.
Nash was the most vanilla big guy ever XD
facts
Not really.
Actually no way
He wasn't as vanilla as Test.
Clearly you didn't watch the heyday of WCW.
Whenever someone says Dean Malenko is boring I feel compelled to tell the world the wrestling feud from my childhood I look back on most fondly is Jericho vs. Malenko in WCW.
Jericho had those 4 extra holds, Malenko couldn't do anything about that.
Boring is lance storm
@@LongHuynh-bx5ll Lance was brilliant. He made 2000 WCW watchable for me... Maybe it was Major Gunns 🤔
Dean was boring and Jericho carried the feud.
You mean Covid God vs. Technical God
I don't know how Travis hits so many home runs, it's amazing. Travis, you sir are the man.
loved watching Malenko struggle to get over the middle rope when he entered the ring lol
Nash has always been an insecure big man. He mentions his size in every interview...makes you wonder.
The dude was a big deal in basketball in his youth years. He seems like one of those douchy ex basketball players that shit on anybody thats smaller than them.
It's the only thing that makes him special. He knows he wouldn't have made it as a wrestler if he was even 5" shorter.
@@almightycinder well his legs probably wouldn’t be so bad then either
Nah. Nash is awesome. Short people like Jericho will always be jealous.
It is a good term. They are everywhere right now.
I loved Dean Malenko in the ring. Iceman and his man of 1000 holds worked well for him. I remember the promo videos of him stretching people and introducing a new move every week.
Malenko was a bit too smooth for my tastes. Same as Saturn. Much preferred Benoit or Rey due to their speed and intensity
That was nothing. Jericho outdid him with 1,001 moves. Malenko skipped the lesson on the armbar.
There was a good long while during the Monday night wars that Malenko was one of the only reasons I'd switch the channel to WCW; I loved that his gimmick was that he came out, wrestled his ass off, didn't say anything, left.
It was honestly refreshing at the time.
I feel really bad for Johnny Gargano because Cornette is spot on with his analysis of him. He's a good technical wrestler and he tries SO HARD to be entertaining and to be charismatic, but my God, he is SO BORING. He's just naturally boring.
He thing is, being charismatic and entertaining is something natural.. You can’t fake it. He fakes it.
My problem with this is that Nash himself is pretty vanilla. There's literally nothing unique about him. Big guy, long hair, big boot, powerbomb. I think he's pretty funny in interviews but that's about it.
That being said, there are plenty of guys to whom the term "vanilla midget" applies.
Don’t forget the sidewalk slam and slicking the hair back from 3 or so minutes lol
“Vanilla Midgets” are SMALL guys with no personality. So even tho Kevin Nash or a Omos comes off as Vanilla , at least they don’t look like the average guy at GameStop. Kurt Angle was small but obviously had personality , background & aggression. It’s more than just 1 way of looking at this stuff
Vanilla Midget is perhaps my favorite wrestling term ever. I have called people that in real life and it's completely humiliating.
L
Never thought I'd hear Jim say "incel"
Who taught jim the word incel? 😂😂😂
Jim made sure all the OVW incels got laid in his hot tub.
It's kinda hard to not know that word when the entire AEW fan base is full of them lol.
Didn’t Nash have a 6 move set, counting the hair flip?
that's what's most important in wrestling: the amount of moves you can do
Looks like Weird Al, not Stallone, in the thumbnail...
You can be a vanilla giant too. Vince loves to sign guys like that.
At least they look like they can tear your head off which covers the vanilla part. But being SMALL & Vanilla is a combination that doesn’t get the job done lol
Kevin Nash says “You wouldn’t be tall enough to get on a ride at Disney Land”
Nash called Eddie Guerrero a "vanilla midget" in WCW and instead of pouting about it Eddie took it as advice and started focusing more on his character and his promos than on his in-ring work. Eddie took an insult and used it as an opportunity to improve himself. Modern wrestlers don't have that positive outlook. They take an insult and turn it into a #MeToo campaign where they equate their first world problems with real crimes like what Weinstein and Epstein were doing.
I totally agree. Eddie hated Nash, but it motivated him to the legend he became today.
We don't really know what eddie really think of Nash, also that's just your speculation since twitter was not at that time period so we will never know if Eddie would have done same what present wrestler do
Lol and that's why WCW died. Giving Nash and Hogan creative control when they could barely move.
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@@Lagunero7199 L
I can’t imagine Austin and the rock tweeting each other after beating each other’s ass after a episode of raw smh that’s the one thing I hate about today’s wrestling 1 min these guys are tearing each other apart then there on each other’s gaming UA-cam channel or cooking or some shit smh
Seriously with all due respect it diminishes their credibility most of the time. Do all of these guys only have 1 hobbie besides wrestling? Are they on front of a screen either playing, streaming or tweeting all fucking day long? Jesus what a bummer
Social media should be kayfabe, it should be used to sell the wrestling product. You can't do that while acting like buddies game together, smh
Jim may not could have been Rambo or Rocky, but I think he would definitely be able to sing better then Sly did in that Rhinestone movie 😆
Rhinestone is great and it's a holiday tradition in my family to get completely shit-faced and watch that movie but I do enjoy Jim's singing
Nash tore a quad watching this video.
Doesn’t it get boring just repeating old jokes that other people made up years ago and exist on every video?
@@Two_Seat_Pete_FatA55 not at all
Watch out, Vince is running towards the ring....
I love the term, i use it all the time. it just doesn't mean your small, it also means you lack charisma, mic skills and main event status/presence. Of course there is outliers like eddie and daniel bryan, but as far as todays talent pool of wreslters they are mostly vanilla midgets lol.
No
Including tearing his quad, Nash has 8 moves in his repertoire
pulling his hair out of his face is another important one.
Dean malenko was great in the ring and i like how serious he was.
and as interesting as watching cardboard fall down the stairs.
@@based9930 naw that's alex wright or the wall your thinking of
@@walterclark3198 the wall has more personality than either of them.
@@based9930 i couldn't tell every time i saw him he would chokeslam ppl through tables poorly at that.
You can say he was a great worker and also admit he was a vanilla midget. Wrestling requires charisma and personality. Malenko never showed these
Best part of this - “Size depends not on the actual metrics but the way people look.” Brilliant like always from Jim Cornette.
Drake Maverick, Adam Cole, Ricochet, Johnny Gargano etc have Left the Chat 💬
🚂🚃🚄🚅🚈🚝🚞🚋choo choo
All aboard! Next stop petticoat junction.
I remember when JD said Johnny Gargano is the "Modern Day" Bret Hart... 💀
@michael murillo the problem is noone wants an average sized champion, you want a champion who turns heads and doesn't look like the normal person walking around
@@Raze_DJ2 JD is a clown
@@mattjohnson91 i want a champion who's entertaining, id take adam cole over that guy with aj styles any day
Nash deserves credit for never having a memorable match yet he's a legend😅
Finger poke of doom and Goldberg taser bullshit. He has memorable match just not ones that you wanna remember.
Him being in NWO was his claim to fame lol other than that he always sucked to me. He’s the perfect example of being in the right place at the right time.
Nash vs Hart was good.
His 2 matches against Bret when Diesel was champ, the IYH No DQ match against HBK, the Halloween Havoc tag title match with Harlem Heat, the Road Wild match with Sting/Luger, the IC title match with Razor at Summerslam 1994. He's had plenty of memorable matches and I just named the ones that were GOOD. Everyone remembers him beating Goldberg, Bash at the Beach 1996, War Games 1996. He's had more memorable matches than anyone he bashed.
Scott Hall had great matches with Michaels and Hogan had iconic Mania matches. Nash's best moment was when he took estrogen in The Longest Yard.
A company can have a few “vanilla midgets”, h high flyers, “Japanese schoolgirls”, no in-ring skills giants, Dean Malenko type technicians, etc....but not an entire company of any single one of those groups. You need contrast.
Rey Mysterio sells more merchandise in 1 year than Nash in his entire career.
Stone Cold sold more "Austin 3:16" shirts on a weekend than Nash has in his entire life
They make guys in AEW look smaller because it makes the Young Bucks not stand out as much because of their small size.
i said that when they signed Joey Janela, the sole reason for him being there is to make the Bucks look more like stars.
Shout out to Dean Malenko. 1st name that came to mind
I'd pay to see Jim be Rocky or Rambo
Thank You, Jim... I SERIOUSLY couldn't have said this any better myself... Thank You... ☺️😊☺️😊😊☺️☺️😊😊😎😎😎👆👆👍👍👍🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻🍷🍷🍷🍷🍷🍷🍷🍷
I don't think fans realize the small from yesteryear is bigger than the small today.
And it's not just in pro wrestling. Teens today looks so small and if they are tall, they are so lanky. What are kids eating today and are they still working out???
@@35PHaaton They're eating crap. Hell testosterone in men has been decreasing at an alarming rate since 1981 (yet the government does nothing about it) There's a reason the term soy boy exists (soy does manipulate testosterone but too a tiny degree)
its the skinny jeans. Shawn Micheals was a small guy at 6 ft, todays small is near 5ft. All pants should have space for dancing(ballroom)
Kevin Nash injured his biceps and back during that comment and will be out of action for 6 months.
Oh shit. Make that a year. He tore his quad reading your comment.
I have never met a single person IRL in over 30 years of watching pro wrestling that ever recalled, mentioned, or even knew the weight of the wrestlers as announced. Psychologically, there may be a truth in the visual appearance of the performers. When I was a kid Nikita Koloff looked absolutely monstrous to me- it left a lasting impression on me still to this day. However, I would never be able to tell you what his weight or height were as announced and I never met anyone then or now who could do the same about any given performer.
so, you didn't know anyone who really watched, then, because it was mentioned before each, and every, match.
@@mysonandme8424 L
Kevin Nash would never have said that to Dynamite Kid, Dynamite would’ve stretched him inside out.
Dynamite was a tough bastard for sure. He’s definitely not stretching Nash
@@Provos7777 I wouldn’t bet against Tommy not stretching Nash. Tommy could wrestle technician style, brawling, you name it. He was in the ring with some of the best ever. Nash wasn’t.
@@HARMARSCH2 Tommy was a beast for sure. But 5’8 200lbs fighting 6’10 330lbs is a very tall task, no pun intended. Nash grew up in Detroit, which is a really tough place for a white guy. But...who knows Tommy was one mean bastard
@@Provos7777 Tommy’s Dad and Granddad were both professional boxers.
@@HARMARSCH2 I heard that. Tough, old school englishmen who work in the coal mines, then go drink & fight
Travis is a absolute god with this sketch comedy gold
As disrespectful as it sounded, Nash was all about business and most of those guys really weren't mega main event draws. It's about being over with the paying audience, not how many stars Meltzer gives you.
Fact is, people flocked in droves to see the nWo or Stone Cold, business dropped further when Benoit and Guerrero were on top. Just the way of things.
2002-04 WWE had an even bigger marketing juggernaut, paid for by the stars of the Attitude era. Benoit and Guerrero were nowhere near Austin and The Rock, no matter how fundamentally sound they were.
@Peter Stevenson glad that you bring up marketing because midgets cannot be marketed. You cannot go to a casual fan who has never seen wrestling and market Eddie and say come see this 5'8 Guerrero take on the 5'8 Benoit. No one is gonna watch that. Also, Eddie's wrestling skills were secondary, his main point of attraction was his attitude the flirting and cheating.
@Peter Stevenson I am not questioning anything about Eddie, he was great for what he was but no company can make him the face of the company for a long time because defeating him wouldn't be a challenge, if anyone beats him for a title then well done but if someone loses to a guy like Eddie then they would surely be buried.
To me wrestling veers back and forth between skill and look each generation. This generation’s Gargano’s, Cole’s, and Chad Gable’s are a reaction to 10-15 years ago of the Mason Ryan’s, David Utunga’s, and Great Khali’s. And if you look now, WWE is gearing up for a big guy push again with Omos and Baba Tunde.
Omos looks like he's going to be a continuation of Vince's hard on for vanilla Giants. Guys who are just really big and little else. ie the Great Khali or Giant Gonzalez. He's likely going to get a brief monster push that wont be that over, then fade into the mid card or future endeavors.
@@user-gm4kv2my4ujust like Khali & Gonzalez he’s around the height to where he doesn’t need a character & just need to be a monster.
@@user-gm4kv2my4u no
@@MASTER3371 no
Kevin Nash couldn’t wrestle his way out of a paper bag or book a taxi to an airport, let alone an angle.
The match with Ricky Starks and Cowboy had them weighing 198 and 228 respectively. They looked about the same size, so they could have had Starks weighing 210 or 215.
"People don't get the correlation. When I said Chris (Benoit) and Eddie (Guerrero) became Champions. The wrestling bussines died. ... I made that statement when they were both alive" - Kevin Nash
Is that even real? The wrestling business died even harder when Nash was the champion...
@@1stand406 Finger Poke of Doom 🙅♂️🤦♂️💀
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Nash had to follow Hogan. Bret,Shawn and etc ALL weren’t drawing. Even Hogan himself wasn’t drawing in 94,95.
@@greatomeister675 If I'm not mistaken, Shawn was elevated after Nash. But they erred in thinking that Nash as a white meat babyface champ would get over.
@@mangrove Yup. Mid 90s was Bret, Diesel, Shawn and some Taker.
Kevin "4 moves of doom and oh my god my quads!" Nash has never earned the right to put down ANYBODY. Both Benoit and Jericho drew better as Champs then Nash did his entire year's run w/the strap.
Yea wrestling was hot when those two were champs and yet they drew nothing. They are like a soda can, as long as they chase the championship and maybe win one it's ok but what after they are on top?
You cannot make them dominate because it took everything from them to climb the mountain, they cannot stay on top otherwise the business looks phony.
Why does number of moves matter?
@@srachar Because PPV matches tend to go 20 minutes or so? You just going to keep doing the same five moves the whole damn time?
@@almightycinder nope, you would keep some moves for ppv and you'd actually sell the move and not do one after another
@SL234 Bryan was always gonna be a no name. Look at him, nothing about him screams "top star". He is a joke that wwe took too far.
This reminds me of the Kevin Nash Cm Punk segment in 2011
He’s spot on with his Sylvester Stallone analogy.
It's how you work too, a lot of small guys depend on crazy flips and no psychology so it looks like children doing gymnastics. Take someone like Daniel Bryan. He's a smaller guy, but there's a reason ROH fans chanted "you're going to get your fucking head kicked in"
Because he worked bigger, then he was and it was believable. His strikes were great, he was an amazing technical wrestler that was able to put a bigger guy on the mat and stretch them.
Doesn't matter if you're a shorter guy. It's the way you work, lay your strikes in, keep it tight, and don't make it look so fucking silly
100% dude. Benoit was 5"11 and Kurt Angle was 6"0 both are way less without shoes or boots. Never have seen two more intense guys in the ring. They made you question if it was a work or a shoot. They might have been smaller than other guys but people knew these guys were not to be fucked with.
@@angrymobsters1599 I think part of the problem is that a lot of modern wrestling becomes "video game"-esque, where guys are literally throwing multiple moves back to back, hardly selling the weight of each attack, and yet manages to counter with ease.
@Peter Stevenson what the fuck does that have to do with anything? There are a ton of guys that are considered small throughout wrestling history that could work their ass off. Yet you take 2 cases of guys with drug, alcohol, mental health, or brain damage as some sort of argument against being a great worker. That makes no sense
See a vanilla big guy like Khali can still go for one round as a world champion just because of his freaking physique but a vanilla midget is good for just being a jobber.
@@nybxcrotona Yeah, there are way to many circus wrestlers today. It definitely makes wrestling look like a bigger joke than it already is.
I love that Nash, who was friends with Shawn and X-Pac, called people vanilla midgets, both pretty small guys compared to the 80s.
Personally, I just think he was jealous that these guys a foot shorter than him were bigger draws for much longer than himself. Nash got lucky to be part of the NWO else he would have just been a footnote in wrestling history.
So what? Just because you are friends with someone doesn't mean you see them as draws.
Did this guy really just insinuate that Sean Waltman was a "bigger draw for much longer" than Kevin Nash?
So, discussing wrestling history is just a fan fiction contest of who can come up with the biggest pile of nonsense now?
Both X-Pac & especially Shawn had a unique look , Charisma & intensity about themselves.
Never thought I'd hear Corny say "incels".
Gargano in the Thumbnail 😂😂😂
He also directly called AJ a vanilla midget one of the most talented workers in the world and also one of the most over talents
If Jim is going to call Gargano a "Vanilla Midget" and going to call "Swerve" Scott a "Middle school kid", then he has to consider Rey Mysterio, Finn Balor, Daniel Bryan, Adam Cole, Kyle O'Rielly, Roderick Strong, Tomasso Ciampa, LA Knight, Austin Theory, Sami Zayn, and John Morrison the same as well. If he is going to praise the latter, then he can't complain about the former just because of their height.
Did you see his promos back in TNA? Awful. Zero personality. Then they stuck Flair with him which exposed his shortcomings even worse.
@@SupraViperhead LA Knight, Austin theory and John Morrison are midgets? I don't think so. And yes the others you mentioned just look stupid and are novelty acts at best.
@@SupraViperhead I think you missed the point. Watch the Rey Mysterio video from yesterday, it helps clarify.
@@Hi-kq1vi The Flair thing was ridiculous. AJ was a pure babyface character and even in real life didn't do much, but they still tried to make him into Ric Flair 2.0 with the partying, drinking, sex lifestyle/gimmick of Flair's. It made no sense. He was never skilled on the mic in TNA, but not every starts out cutting amazing promos. People improve by constantly doing them, which AJ did.
I know he's supposed to be Rambo but honestly he looks more like Syxx.
For you aew kids out there syxx was x-pac aka sean waltman name in wcw with the nwo
OMG THAT JOHNNY GARGANO MIDGET LMAO 😂😂😂
Cris Benoit & Eddie Guerrero were smaller compared to the 6’4 giants..
right now they’d be heavyweights amongst the children playing wrestler
Jim Cornette: Not everyone can be 7 feet tall.
Me: Yeah, I heard you can't teach that.
😉😂🤣
And you can't teach them anything else.
It's true, not everyone is 7' .. including Kevin Nash lol
Is that Johnny gargano?
Not Kevin "Leg Day?" Nash thinking he wasn't actually 4'0" without his suspect quads 😭
Nash said Malenko was great back stage and we witty as can be and if WCW gave him the mic and have him something to work with us would have knocked it outta the park