Jim Cornette on A Dumb Tweet About Chris Benoit
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- Опубліковано 25 сер 2024
- From Episode 439 of the Jim Cornette Experience
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She's now apologized and went live on ig with David Benoit. It was a mess she brought upon herself. People weren't defending Benoit's last 3 days, they were defending his wrestling. Also, the people saying Angle couldn't hang today are dumb af. Two of the best technical wrestlers of all time couldn't hang today? Good lord.
The only people that thing Benoit couldn't hang today are people who watch wrestling for gymnastics like the stupid ass flips that the Young Bucks do where they aren't even trying to do a move.
And the main crutch, he couldn't hang because he wouldn't be able to remember the match.
Which shows just how fucking far "workers" have fallen if an active wrestler somehow doesn't know that people of Benoit/Angle's generation, and every generation before them, could, and did, call the fucking match in the ring.
That honestly boggled my mind. "They couldn't hang because they could never remember the 45 page script we wrote up!"
They wouldn't have to, and they'd make up something better as they went.
Fuck me.
An Olympic gold medal winner at heavyweight, who won the gold with a broken freaking neck, couldn’t hang with today’s ballerinas? What kind of numb shite said that? Angle was one of the fastest learning and most versatile professional wrestlers of all time. He came out of the attitude era, held every belt, became champion multiple times and did so surrounded by Austin, The Rock, Jericho, Foley, Taker, Michaels and HHH, to name a few. He’s a bonafide bad ass, a legit shooter, with a stellar reputation who put on some of the best main event matches over two decades in multiple promotions…Some people…
Yeah Angle would wrestle circles around any wrestler today even Danielson (him to a lesser extent)
@@hahajones Well its like trying to say "Oh Bret Hart couldn't hang with us because he'd never be able to remember what we planned."
Like, the fuck are you talking about?
"Fat-ass! NOW I'm fat shaming you, fat-ass!" Pissed off Corny is gold.
Not a fat-@$$, but definitely a fat head!
the best corny lol
Was hoping for a Steiner impersonation
@@jasonoyola8550 47 minutes of the best Corny: ua-cam.com/video/gW1EpzCRqi4/v-deo.html
It sure as hell is
Imagine idolizing Bryan Danielson but taking down the technical skills of Benoit and Angle
Jim: "they don't live in the real world they only live on twitter"
Basically describes 95% of people in twitter
Jim lives on twitter opinions too though. So he's kinda a hypocrite with that statement
Yeah. UA-cam comments is where real life is. We rock!
Yea most liberals
@@BobHowler LMAO
Yeah and he has a twitter profile and tweets and finds stupid crap to go off on.
“He would not be able to remember matches” 🤣 Bruh, he came from an era where it was mostly called in the ring and didn’t memorize choreographed play time. Corny tore this apart as expected! 👏
In Benoit's era the only guy that wanted everything pre planned was Macho Man. He was the exception though.
@@knection1986 DDP as well
The comment about his memory was a diss towards him being brain damaged
@@thewoodchipperr Stone Cold also liked to have some sort of match plan out as well
That’s most of The Young Bucks’ work
She tried to take a shot at the in ring work of the previous generation. She singled out Benoit, because she knew she would be called out, and "how dare you defend this murderer" was the kilt she thought she could hide behind.
But I saw how the comments on her tweet went, and the people weren't letting her blend these two separate issues together. It did not go the way she expected.
I meant to say the "skirt" she tried to hide behind. Damn autocorrect changed it to kilt
@@RickCaldwellvoluntaryist still works in a way
She talked herself out of $5,000 because now she has to donate $5,000 to walk back her dumb comment. 🤣
@@tha9thwonder thats nothing mate. Vince paid 12mil to save his pr.
These are the women of the #MeToo movement. Every last one. No exceptions.
Honestly, most of today's guys couldn't hang with mid carders from back in the day, let alone Angle.
Look at the guys considered “mid-card” back then: Dean Malenko, Dustin Rhodes, Jeff Jarrett, Lance Storm, Konnan, Billy Gunn….
Christ, Malenko or Storm could shoot turn pretty much anyone from today into a fucking pretzel if they wanted to.
Barry Horowitz would take these most of these clowns to school.
@@zlinedavid Don't forget about Mr. Perfect and Ricky Steamboat.
Angle was pilled up on Oxys for a bulk of his career too. That makes him even more remarkable. Todays wrestlers couldn't do that and be half as good as Angle.
A chunk of AEW's top guys like Kenny Omega couldn't hang with Al Snow, Farooq or the Godfather. No way.
And I'll agree that Gail Kim on her worse day is a better wrestling talent than Jordan Grace is on her best day. And why the hate on Kurt Angle by these people? Kurt is one of the most entertaining wrestlers I've seen in awhile.
And a complete natural talent, both in the ring and on the mic. Watch some of his stuff from his first year in WWF. He’s so smooth, so fluid and Christ what a heel promo.
Jealousy they hate that there are guys like Benoit and Angle that can straight wrestler, there is a reason why Sabre or Riddle doesn't attack these guys because they are great technical wrestlers in their own right and respect those that can also go like them
Jordyne Grace has made racist generalizations on her Chris Van Vliet interview. Because it wasn't related to African Americans, she didn't get called out on it.
@@zlinedavid how quick Kurt picked up the business and became a star is proof in of itself, he was solid from the start. legit entertaining.
Not true. Jordan grace can go in the ring. Bad takes dont make you bad wrestler.
Benoit vs Angle's 30 minute submission match from around 2000 is my favorite match of all time. An absolute technical wrestling masterpiece.
It was back last 2001, close enough. And yes that match was a technical wrestling masterpiece
Their Royal Rumble 2003 match was... *chef's kiss*
@@chuckmendez8446 100% agreed.
Cage match they had was crazy too. 2 out 3 falls at judgement day 2001.. unforgiven 2002.. they had so much chemistry together. 2 of the all time great in ring wrestlers of all time
That was great. In the 80s and 90s the technical wrestlers were my favorite.
Her tweeting that was very insensitive to the family of Chris and Nancy. Chris isn’t on this earth to deal with all of this…his and Nancy’s family are. It was bad taste on Grace part and she got the attention she deserved…
i promise on EVERYTHING this is not sarcasm, i think youd have a great side hustle by selling replies or responses to unfortunate or uncomfortable situations, kind of like PR but for regular life stuff. great take on this situation.
This is the chick who Jim called “butterface” once and the internet flipped out lol
Edit: he mentions it immediately in this clip
Any time I see her I immediately think hey it's butterface.
Brian said
She'd be good looking
BUT HER FACE...
💀💀💀💀
I mean she does look like Rocky Dennis
We've seen who Jim is married too
@@kevindouglas5333 Some men are into bigger women it’s a fetish it’s not a big deal.
I watched Benoit in Stampede eons ago. He was great. It will always be overshadowed by what he did...had none of that happened, he would have been a legend for the right reasons.
Same with Dynamite Kid.
@@Steely_Fran exactly. I don’t really wanna watch either guy now but you can’t say they weren’t talented performers.
the good moments are frozen in time, but they’re ruined forever after the fact
Thanks for that completely unsolicited and unverified apocryphal tale.
I honestly don't know why it is so difficult for people to separate the person from the actor. You can hate what a person did and still enjoy the characters they created
Didn't Kurt Angle prove he can hang with all the wrestlers of today years ago? He's wrestled and pretty much beaten all of them -- AJ, Joe, Drew, Lashley, Brock.
Angle is arguably the best of all time, even above Bret Hart, because he managed to work competitive matches with very small guys like Rey Mysterio, look strong and do power moves against super heavyweights like Mark Henry, Kane and Undertaker.
Angle won Olympic gold with a broken freakin’ neck.
@@robertnapier624 oh it's true, it's damn true
The problem is zoomers remember what they see last. The kids today saw a washed up Angle stumbling and bumbling against Baron Corbin and wondered why anyone thought he was great. These (censored)heads were still in diapers during the Attitude Era and too young for Angle/Joe in TNA. Ol Butterface never saw prime Benoit or bothered to.....typical zoomers
@@leostenbuck4194 True, i've been saying that. Kurt is definetly amongst the GOATs. You can easily make the argument of him being top 1.
if Chris Benoit was alive, 90% of AEW locker room would be changing on hall ways or storage closets. Chris Benoit the wrestler is the bar unattainable for them.
What does this have to do with aew? Geesh. The hate is real
What does AEW have to do with this. He can also work circles in WWE too. AEW has gotten the most hate and their less than 5 years old
If Benoit was alive, he'd be a bloated alcoholic wreck doing shoot interviews on youtube for pill money. Let's be serious.
@@lilgenx8361 Well, its simple.. AEW gets hate cause they are the new kids on the block. Dont take it as all criticism is negative towards AEW either. I'm harsh on AEW as a whole but it's because I know the talent and the writing can do so much better, but for some reason, they do stupid shit, or shit doesn't make sense. Plus, with an owner like TK, who's a walking meme in the flesh, what do you expect? Dudes either saying dumb shit on Twitter, digging himself in a hole or he's busy hugging his talent or another promotions talent as if they are his stuffed bear from when he was a toddler.
wait, she's not from AEW? XD i was sure she was, so she's indy talent that's not even good enough for Tony? XDD it's getting funnier xdd
Yeah, her saying Chris couldn't hang with todays wrestlers was just moronic.
One could throw the same shot at her in that she couldn’t hang with the wrestlers of the past.
She clearly said it's her opinion, right or wrong it's her opinion. As far as everything else he deserves no credit because if what he did.
Jim is right! She’s a butterface! My boy always sending me pics of her and I’m like stop it man! Her face is awful!
@@geef917 it’s an ignorant opinion
@@patale1640 that's fine but it's an opinion she didn't say it was a fact. I don't know why people get their panties in a bunch over someone's opinion no matter how dumb it is or off base it is. As far as everything else with the murdering of his family she's right.
Smart technology, smart tv's, smart phones.... dumb people. Society in 2022.
more true words never spoken 😶👍
I’ll never understand why some people think you have to disregard every single thing Benoit’s done in the business, because of the brain damage that caused the unforgivable sin in his final day.
You can hate the musician and still listen to the music. You can hate the artist and still observe the artwork. You can hate the wrestler and still watch his wrestling. Watching a Chris Benoit match isn’t some kind of ringing endorsement for murdering women & children. You can separate the sin from the man’s 9-5 job.
I was always in your camp too. Chris was always the guy I watched the most as a kid. I even wanted to be broke in the business as Kevin Benoit (so glad I decided to not do that 😅) because I emulated his style so much.
Would you be able to admire Benoit's ring work still if he murdered one of your kids?
IDK, I guess since I live in reality and not Stan-Land, the only thing I can see is a man who murdered his old child and his wife. IDGAF what he can and or can't do in the old clips, I was alive for it, I remember.
But when he did what he did, it's hard for a regular person who doesn't idolize his in ring talent as anything other than a complete and total monster of a piece of human shit.
@@DrMurdercock plenty of musicians have murdered/been to prison, and they still have millions who buy their albums and listen to their music.
IDK, I guess I can have a frame of mind to separate the artist from the artwork. Just because I watch his old matches, doesn’t mean I worship the ground he walks on.
Well we don't know why he did it. We hope it was brain damage because its terrible someone would do this. He was an amazing wrestler but terrible human for what he did. One of the most talented ever and arguably a top 10 talent. I hope people stop bringing his child up in such a messed up way.
Brian's 100% right, the majority of the current talent working in the business today, wouldn't be able to handle it, if they were just given the finish & had to call it in the ring, & when it comes to promos, just give them the bullet points & fill in the blanks & obviously they can't.
Well, Benoit couldn't handle it either considering he had a breakdown and killed his family.
@@hihihi1q23 your mommy said that about you
"Brian's 100% right" is his favourite phrase, he's always putting himself over for noticing things or calling things
Benoit would beat these cosplay dork nerds into a pulp
Roman is probably the one guy I can think of who could because his best matches lately have been ones where it's heat spots and ad-libbed time killer moments. Best example I can think of was him vs Balor where he put up a face mask and went into the crowd to fight Balor there for a good 10 minutes before they veered back and got to the finish. There wasn't much in the way of spots beyond Balor's Riot of the Blood transformation at the end, but overall it was a good match that was allowed to breathe.
Chris Benoit and Kurt Angle are two of the greatest wrestler of all time. Not only both of them could handle today's wrestlers, I am certain both of them would outwrestle everybody.
That's the problem they dont wrestle anymore. What they do now isn't wrestling. Its a side show.
Why are all technical wrestlers crippled or dead ? Hart, dynamite kid, bryan danielson, benoit, kurt and im sure many other names i cant think of.
Yet you have guys like orton and jericho who can still go.
@@Umbrella_TV He is completely vanished from the wrestling business. Nobody from AEW or WWE mentions him.
@@maklame3318 because of there accumulated years in the ring n most of them have lasted as long as they have cos they didn't add to their probs cos their not taking stupid unnecessary risks in the ring like today's wrestlers! Half of them gonna be in wheelchairs before there 30 or dead! The human body is just not designed to take all that sustained abuse on a regular basis!
Your wrong because Christian Cage Out works everyone 😁
Its a tough pill to swallow. Really liking a wrestler, watching his rise to the very top only to see a fall far more dramatic and catastrophic. I thought he was an outstanding wrestler, but when it came out that he did what he did, my heart sank. Its a damn tragedy all the way around.
@@seanleary7711 or you accept it for what it is. Unfortunately the truth comes in unpleasant forms.
Chris Benoit is wrestlings Anakin Skywalker, while Jordynne Grace is a slightly more feminine Jabba The Hutt.
Jordynne Grace Kayla Braxton Cringe Twitter
That's a great analogy. Benoit could've been such a beloved man if it weren't for the physical and psychological trauma. Eddie dying was the catalyst I think.
Ha! Well said Fred!👍
I just want to acknowledge you always have best comments
Kevin Sullivan had the high ground
"If it wasn't for the Benoit situation. Would we be tested like we are now ?" - Hornswoggle
What are u implying with this quote
Wouldnt it been fun to see Chris Benoit tag with Eddie against the Young Bucks. Honestly i dont get why modern wrestlers dont use Chris as an example not to do stupid shit. Chris didnt do half what some of these guys did and his brain was mush
Benoit and Eddie would chop the shit and reverse move after move and probally give the bucks the hardest match of there career .
But yeah those German suplexs are what's bad for the head on both who's doing it and reseiving it
Can i petition for Bob Holly to join and we just let em have it like Puder?
@@adrianreece214 add bob and they can add cole and really turn into something special .red chests and super kicks
@@adrianreece214 Oh God, Bob would cripple one of them in the ring on purpose and make it look like an accident.
@@levibradley5098 he would grab ahold of Matt and we wouldn't see him again rest of the match lol
The thing that kills me about this. Is that I first heard about Benoit when he wrestled Jushin Liger. Benoit wrestled in New Japan which many of today's wrestlers believe is the end all be all. Also, he wrestled the rop luchadors of his time and had great matches with them. I wonder if she has actually seen a Chris Benoit match
Benoit was the epitome of a guy who worked all over the world and took something from everywhere he visited. His idol Dynamite Kid was the same.
Benoit/Booker T best of 7 in WCW was one of the best programs of the late 90s from a pure work rate perspective. Unreal.
That being said I wish nothing but peace to the family left behind. both the Nancy and Benoit sides.
Literally my favorite thing from later years WCW.
And the Page and Benoit......balls feud and Jericho's promos on them
Benoit vs Eddie on Nitro in a 5 minute match is better than any wrestling today.
That series made me aware of the Main Event potential of Booker T
"Chris Benoit couldn't HANG with them".
The wording, Corny, the wording!!!
That was a part of homegirls tweet
Are we not doing phrasing anymore?
Brian saying that he will never watched another Benoit match is hilarious. A lot of these moves and spots are Benoit's. The crossface, three German suplex, the flying headbutt, Knife edge chops. Your watching his matches and don't even know it
He got at least one of those from Dynamite Kid
@@flaminhotyoshi7403the flying headbutt
I mean, Benoit invented none of that.
Now I’m fat shaming you LOL Jim is brutal 💀
Chris Benoit was one of the BEST wrestlers I've ever seen period. Hell, he's one of the biggest reasons why I got into WWE growing up. Him & Eddie Guerrero in the ring at WM 20 is still one of my favorite moments to this day. Now, in no way am I honoring or defending Chris's actions. But for her to say that he wouldn't be able to hang with the guys today, that's BS. I'm sure if Benoit was still alive, he'd put her in her place. It kinda makes me wonder what he'd say about the business today.
i wish more people, including brian, would take into account his brain damage when they said they hated him. i dont hate him because i dont think sans brain damage he would have done what he did. just like you shouldnt call someone with tourettes racist if he's repeating the N-word over n over
@@GregHuffman1987 agreed. Junior Seau committed suicide because of the same disease. The brain is completely different by the time they meet their demise. It is not the same person anymore
@@GregHuffman1987 Agreed. Brian saying "F*CK Chris Benoit" pissed me off a little bit. I get what Chris did to his wife & son was unforgivable in a lot of ways & he has the right to his opinions. But I think either he forgets or doesn't realize that he was suffering both physically & mentally. CTE, depression, injuries, life on the road, being away from home, losing a lot of close friends, etc. Like his son David Benoit said, it wasn't him. I know deep down in my heart that he really loved his family & he would never do anything to intentionally harm them if he had a normal functioning brain.
Eddie Guerrero vs Chris Jericho (wcw) is one of my favorite matches from that era.
Benoit would be world champion these days
The response konnan gave to her was hilarious but also truthful and all the jokes and bs aside with Benoit he was an outstanding wrestler
I haven’t listened to Konnan and DI for awhile but I gotta hear this one! 😀
The only thing I will defend Chris Benoit on was his career in the ring, that's it. The last week of his life is unforgivable, but regardless of how you feel about him as a human being, his in ring work was some of the best in history and I don't think anybody can argue against it.
@Digital Fates hands down some of the best technical wrestlers at the time.
Now that I've heard how Kurt trained and dedication to the craft, he could've had a much better career than he did. But Vince obviously had to tone him down to a believable level for the viewers.
0:00 Corny being corny...
4:10 Cornette slowly turns heel...
4:51 Cornette drops the strap.
0 - 100 real quick.
It's all academic when the strap goes down.
Yes.
Never forgiving him for what he did, but if you had a dollar for every current wrestler who never wrestled with Benoit and could last 10 minutes with him in a match, you would go hungry at McDonald’s.
What?
@@corywilson2007 “Steve Austin ain’t here dawg” - Eddie Kingston lmfaooo
Bro wrote that with the brain of Chris Benoit 💀💀
@@t.c.8299 Also the fat dude that “cut a promo” on a cookie, yet only professed its intentions to eat them carbs to get fatter
@@t.c.8299 Do you understand what he said?
She messed up by trashing Benoit as a wrestler instead of just trashing him as a murderer.
And that second part really doesn't need to be said. Should be assumed that someone probably doesn't approve of Benoit's actions the last 3 days of his life.
@@jthom0027 sad thing is that in america a ton of people do approve of it.
@@derpderpin1568 A ton of people approve of him losing it and killing his wife and son?
@@derpderpin1568 Maybe don't talk about shit you have no clue about.
@@jamesmainstream3112 No they don't the guys name is Derp Derpin he is trolling.
I have never had an issue watching Benoit matches, never give it a second thought. Great wrestler.
@Tempered Glass not so great father.
@@wilcee238 you know, concussions can cause a person to act differently and often violently. You know your brain controls you, not the other way around.
He was not in his right mind. Maybe use Chris as an example of what REPEATED CONCUSSIONS can do to a person. Maybe, if they did, they wouldn't do so much stupid shit.
@@wilcee238 It is well documented apart from his last 3 days on Earth Chris was a great father his living son still calls Benoit his hero despite what he did (imagine what a head f*ck that is for him). People need to be more aware and mature about the effects of Dementia in people. You hear about old people married for decades snapping and doing unthinkable things they arent aware theyre doing or have any memory of doing to their long term partners. Doesnt mean they were always monsters in the making, it means dying or dead brain cells created serious lapses in their rationality, behaviour and judgement that wouldnt happen if they were in their right mind. When that many brain cells are dead or dying nobody is ever fully in control of their actions. If anything it was quite remarkable Benoit was able to have any matches in the months leading up to the tragedy with his brain in the state it was in.
Same. In the last days of his life, Chris wasn't Chris anymore. His brain was mush.
You can dislike Benoit for his final actions but this woman's tweet was so uneducated
It could be considered ignorant were it the one tweet, given that she clearly did it to get some eyes on her by hopping on the fact he was trending. The second tweet though didn't do her any favors
@@rileyk5228 I can definitely tell it was for attention. But it can be both that and ignorance. She seems like someone who knows little to nothing about wrestling from before she got into the business
Even mentioning Benoit is super corny. Nothing outweighs what he did, so even mentioning him is absurd. Calling him evil to get attention is dumb, and bringing up how good his career was is even worse, but even worse than that is talking bad about him then somehow praise him at the same time. There is literally no reason to mention him. He was an evil garbage human, and that is all we need to know. There are those people in every walk of life that should be erased and never talked about, and in wrestling Benoit is that guy. No I am not talking about cancelling people, and cancelling people is not even real. I am talking about simply taking the worst of the worst, and never praising them or bringing them up in any way. Benoit punched his ticket to being erased, and he should never be mentioned again. He was trash, and needs to be forgotten about just like all trash.
Final action? Killing his son?
That part 💯
Benoit was one of the most talented wrestlers I have ever seen in my entire life.
That respect and appreciation for his talent has nothing to do with how I feel about what he did though.
They are separate things entirely.
You're just disrespecting the business if you ignore Chris Benoits contribution
@@Thecultofwrestling ohh yeah such contributions, they put the title on him and took it off of him almost immediately cuz he proved he wasn’t a draw, and then was sent to ECW (the C show at the time) dude is overrated asl and couldn’t cut a promo to save his life. He was not destined for greatness, not in wwe
@@AlexLunnnaaaa 🤦🏼♂️
@@AJ-xv7oh can’t dispute nothing I said so you send a dumb emoji 💀
@@AlexLunnnaaaa Nevermind that Benoit was part of the SmackDown Six, has held pretty much every belt in whatever promotion he was apart of, and was one of the best ring generals to lace a pair of boots. Oh and to rub salt on the wound he held every single belt in WWE. EVERY. SINGLE. ONE!!! He was a POS for what he did. But to say he didn't have significant contribution to wrestling is pure stupidity and you need to research more on a subject before you open your mouth.
I'm mad that Jordan grace have more muscles than most of today's aew roster like Adam Cole and orange Cassidy 🙄🤦🏿♂️
She's the female version of Otis
What does AEW have to do with this any of this? Hate is real
@@lilgenx8361 just pointing out the size difference fan boy
@@lilgenx8361 and they wrestle each other before
Because AEW mostly consistent of beta soyboys of male wrestlers, with the obvious exceptions of wrestling legends and veterans like Y2J, Billy Gunn, Sting, and Christian.
From a factual standpoint Benoit’s actions don’t change his wrestling career he was one of the best
"benoit couldn't hang with today's wrestlers "
That's one of the most idiotic statements ever. These guys today barely "wrestle" nonstop superkicks and spears.
The wrestlers today couldn’t hold the wrestlers of yesterday’s jock strap. Oh it’s true, it’s damn true
Love it
One thing I don't get about the Benoit hate.
People act like he's living it up on an island somewhere laughing about what he got away with. Dude is dead. He was broken and brain damaged and he literally lost his mind. It's a sad story but the hate is misplaced.
He was framed
@@pleaseshutup7053 😂😂😂😂 by who Sullivan?
Thank you, smh like damn
@@pleaseshutup7053 maybe, not hard to believe considering how many other situations happen like that in the USA
I can get the hate. His actions were horrific and it's well within reason to hate what he did. BUT that doesn't dismiss his mental state, brain damage and everything else he had, nor his in ring ability
the funniest thing is she double downed today and donated $5000 of her own money to Benoit's son lol
It was the only way not to get Black Balled. That’s why she did it
@@robbymarton74 Impact isn't going to blackball her, she's probably best thing they have.
@@locustjohn3865 This incident is the only reason I now realize Impact is still a thing. And now I will forget again.
@@micahjohnsonboxing6409 nah Josh Alexander, Moose, Steve Maclin, Ace Austin, Speedball Mike Bailey, Killer Kelly, and Masha Slamovich are better/more interesting imo. That’s off the top of my head.
Jordynne is a good enough wrestler but her facial expressions + promos have never been more than eh. As a person, she’s obviously a tryhard/doesn’t come across as genuine.
@@locustjohn3865 nah Impact has a lot of talent.
The top "wrestlers" of today need a Benoit, Bret Hart or Kurt Angle to carry them to anything remotely resembling a decent match these days.
They couldn't hang with the likes of Hardcore Holly.
Holly was a pretty good worker in his own right.
@@nbaldwin45 I won't deny that. That wasn't a jab at Holly. Dude was a legitimate "workrate" beast that doesn't get the credit he deserves.
Benoit as a performer, easily amongst the 3 greatest I've ever seen in my entire life. The man was that good in the ring
Benoit was the only one who could match my intensity-Kurt angle
I think Paul Heyman had the best take on the whole Chris Benoit thing, granted just being somewhat less long winded, on an Inside the Ropes interview as a response to someone in the crowd saying "That's my boy" or something to that effect. His comment was something to the effect of
In the ring, amazing, one of the best
Anywhere else, fuck 'em
I saw that interview and it’s the exact way I’ve always looked at the situation around Chris, indisputable one of the best of all time in the ring, outside the ring? Fuck em
Dumb quote. Doesn't even need to be said. If you can't separate art from artist, youre missing the entire point.
Her first mistake was thinking that she understands what wrestling is.
Her first mistake was thinking (fixed)
Jordan Grace probably thinks Adam Cole is a better wrestler then Lou Thesez. Sad state of wrestling today😔
Guarantee she doesn't even know who Lou Thesez is .
“She works for Impact so we can’t really care too much about this person” 😂😂
I read your comment as soon as he said it
Is it still trendy to hate impact? I can't keep up with the social trends.
@@zackfair6791 only to those who still think it's 2014
Cornette's buddy Eddie Edwards does too
@@timtate4105 same 😂😂😂🤷♂️
This is why Jim' and Brian's podcasts are the only ones I listen too regularly. They
totally killed it in how they handled it.
Chris Benoit would smash through the entire roster of wrestling today
This reminds of the Raw after wrestlemania where Ricky Steamboat was killing It! All with just his arm drag, it was beautiful, smooth, perfect...but there wasn't a single person in that roster who could practice to make it look that good. Talent and practice beats this era of wrestlers.
When he face Jericho at Mania, RAW, and the next PPV after…. Steamboat was so crisp in the ring
Classical wrestling would draw less then modern era wrestling today.
@@maklame3318 would it though? As remember fans of classic wrestling were run off years ago by the changing style of pro wrestling. Bring that back and promote it properly how many would come back to enjoy what they used to love.
@@maklame3318 classic wrestling yea, but if they just went back to the 90s and 2000s style it would explode in popularity again. going public and PG is the only reason mainstream wrestling ever fell off.
One of the very few good things about '09 was Steamboat, unbelievably good at that age and after fifteen years out of the ring.
This is the ego of modern wrestlers like Grace. They all have the same mindset of UA-camrs thinking they’re talented and famous because they have a few hundred thousand followers.
Ty Cobb Vs Jim Cornette in a "Baseball bat on a pole" match is the crossover I never knew I needed!
They don't live in the real world, they only live on twatter.
Says it all.
I think Chris Benoit the wrestler could work circles around pretty much everyone today
Its not even close. Benoit comes from the school of "call it in the ring". Most of todays wrestlers cant even wrap their heads around that.
He couldn't work circles around Bryan Danielson.
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What a joke.
Wow 🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️
@@bugo348 Daniel Bryan is the dollar store chris benoit. Benoit would work circles around him
Eddie, Kurt and Chris were the best to ever do it.
❤❤❤ indeed they were
Butter Face 😂
In regards to the Benoit family tragedy, I think we should all take the approach of keeping personal opinions about Chris the person to ourselves, not to spare him but to spare those who have to deal with the ramifications of said tragedy every single day. Truthfully nobody should have anything to say about him good or bad.. unless it’s his surviving son, daughter, or Nancy’s sister.. actual people who have to live the rest of there lives with out any type of clarity or true understanding of what went wrong that weekend minus the evidence that was given. Other than that all discourse on Benoit should be limited, and only used in special situations and not even to talk about his in ring work per say but to really address mental health issues, CTE, and so on and so forth to prevent these types of situations from happening as often as they do.
Well, the one who has to immediately deal with it as David, as he's the only surviving member of the family beyond extended family.
I'm also a man who thinks something really strange happened at thebenoits house those three days
Nancy was known to be violent. Sullivan had her arrested. Nobody knows what happened.
I'll always say WWE talked him into using. Guy was huge during Toothless Aggression. Screwed his head up.
@@wills1483 yeah but the whole roster was probably using at that time. Well except JR
As the Rock would say... "Know your role and shut your mouth"
My dad's favorite wrestler was Chris Benoit. After the tragedy happened my dad never watched another match. It broke his heart and it ended his love for pro wrestling. But I never heard my dad say one bad thing about Chris Benoit. No judgement calls, nothing anything close. Just sadness. Our family are unfortunately cursed with Alzheimer's. It took my mom and every one of my aunt's on my mom's side of the family. My dad saw on multiple occasions how that condition slowly eats away the personality. He knew, like anyone who has dealt with someone with Alzheimer's, you can't judge the person suffering with Alzheimer's for their actions because they're no longer there. They left the building, what you're now dealing with is someone who just gave small pieces of who they once were. So yeah, my dad didn't hate Chris Benoit, and I don't either. But we hate the condition, Alzheimer's is terrible, a cancer of the personality. If Chris Benoit truly had the brain of an 80 year old with Alzheimer's, it all makes sense. I choose to pray for Chris Benoit that he wasn't in control of his actions. We can't wrap our heads around what he did, it's incredible monsterous. I'm not trying to give him a pass. All I'm doing is praying for the best, and if God is just then maybe Chris and his family are at peace together and not concerned about legacies or hall of fames or anything man made that really don't matter. Jeez, I just got diarrhea of the mouth, huh?
Cool story but shame it's all made up
Who the f u c k read all that??!!
The chicks an oopa-loopa.
The fact Brian dismissed her for working at Impact 😂😂😂
4:51. Thank you Jim. It made my day. 😆
Now she’s downing the steroids even worse than Benoit ever did. She has mental issues.
Benoit was the closest thing I had to a hero. He was my favourite wrestler, he was involved in my favourite match (vs Angle at Royal Rumble 2003) no one worked harder in the ring, he never had off nights and always gave his best, and no one was a classier act outside of the ring. I admired these qualities. I've watched almost nothing of him since, I'm sure I don't need to explain why, but I'd say there's nothing wrong with enjoying or learning the craft from Benoit matches or seeing an example to follow in his actions prior to his murders. Especially when the Benoit you'll be looking at hadn't done anything wrong yet. Bad actions don't invalidate good ones.
I still watch his matches. I haven't gone out of my way to specifically watch him, but I have been working my way through the main shows and PPVs from WCW and WWF in the late 90s. When a Benoit match is on the card I don't skip ahead. I watch the whole show as it happened.
Check out the Booker T vs. Benoit best out of 7 program they killed it back in WCW one of the best series of matches I've ever seen. Of course also any match he had with Eddie Guerrero was a classic as well.
Jordyn Grace looks like that actor from Deadpool 2 and Godzilla VS Kong
Can she even pay her rent wrestling in front of 200 people?
The way Brian feels about Benoit is the way I feel about Brian
I can still watch his matches, he was a phenomenal wrestler, that series against Booker in WCW was lit, I kinda liked the wwe version where they tried it again but it didn't have the same magic.
Not sure why we are still talking about him in this day and age though.
Morons on twitter will always make themselves heard on things that can easily be left alone either for likes or to gratify their own opinion. I'm a younger fan and I recently watched the Wrestlemania 20 triple threat title match for the first time, I'm glad I did it was amazing.
His matches were top level but I don't watch it. I don't judge those who do just for my personal self feels odd.
@@chrisortiz8072 yea it just pops in your head what he did years later or later I know what you mean it s kinda weird
Because it’s better than talking bout Kenny “the sissy child catcher” Omega
@@Steamedhams578 Has literally nothing to do with twitter you fox news snowflake.
Jim looks good in a Mets uniform.
METS = Must Eventually Tank by Septenber
(and before you Mets fans throw your hate at me, I'm in Cubs Country...and we all know what CUBS stands for)
@@Vagajammer What does CUBS stand for?
He looks just as good as Ty Cobb does in his Tigers uniform.
Someone in the cult of Cornette Facebook group said she looks like a female Alex Jones and now I can't unsee it.
Jordan is wrong about Chris Benoit because Chris is a damn good wrestler and he can probably work better then all the indies wrestling if he was here today. I know we all know Chris did do something bad to his family but you can’t deny that Chris haves a legacy in professional wrestling so you have to separate his personal life from his career
No, I don’t.
As horrible and unforgivable as what he did, he's the best damn wrestler of his time. His personal life doesn't reflect on how incredible his career is as a wrestler. We may not forgive him but we can still acknowledge his achievements and what he's capable of in the ring.
@200 years I’m a huge Benoit mark, but you can’t tell me that he was better than Kurt Angle and Eddie Guerrero.
You know that Hitler guy did some fucked up things, but I'd forgive em. You seen those paintings?
By "something bad" do you mean MURDER?
He was in those SUPER J Cup shows and they pretty much influenced the last twenty years of Cruiserweight matches. It's just funny when the people don't even realize everything they do is influenced by something there completely unaware of🤦
Fuck Benoit, but he and Angle, in their primes, would mop the floor with the PWI Top 500 of today.
No one has pulled off a more convincing snap suplex than Chris Benoit.
The guy that Chris Benoit was mimicking, from whom he stole his entire moveset, had a better snap suplex. Search for "Dynamite Kid snap suplex" on youtube
@@alexanderbakulin8836 dynamite kid was great. I still think Benoit's was cleaner and smoother.
People saying Prime Angle wouldn't hang with the guys today is insane dude would out wrestle anyone today even Danielson. Angle was considered the best in ring wrestler in the world at a time where you had Benoit, Eddie, Brock, etc.
I know we joke about it now but the perc angle era in TNA that guy was a fricking machine. He would just about kill some of these young dudes if they tried to go at his pace and the fact that both Kurt and Chris were very capable of calling absolute classics in the ring No one in the business can do that today kurt got a banger out of Shane McMahon that tells you everything you need to know
@@fullweezy3553 yeah and when the Undertaker in the mid 2000s realized he didn't have that, "5 Star Match", who did he turn to? Kurt Freakin Angle and guess what he got that 5 star match
@@fullweezy3553 and also that Mania 19 match with Brock when days before he re-injured his neck and having one of the best in ring Mania Main Events
@@dmar28 yeah that one too an absolute classic could you imagine trying to get a match like that out of anybody in Impact, AEW or even the current WWE roster I don't think so
@@dmar28 even the undertaker vs mankind kotr 1998 hell in a cell they had to call that on the fly can you imagine anybody being able to call that live
2nd string Arena league football player saying OJ Simpson couldn't hang with him😂
The problem with criticism of Chris Benoit away from the ring is most people don't really know if he's a murderer or not. Probably at least 95%.
Chris was basically the second coming of the dynamite kid. He was amazing in the ring. Quick fluid crisp did alot dynamite moves like the diving headbutt and the snap suplex. Unfortunately his style might have been his undoing just like the dynamite kid. If he were alive today and still working at the age he would be today would still work circles around anyone in any promotion except maybe. MAY BE Brian Danielson.
If Benoit were alive today he'd be in a wheelchair due to his injuries just like Dynamite was
@@Vagajammer that's probably very true. I don't know if ran as hard as dynamite though. If he cut the diving headbutt out he might have got another 5 10 yrs.
@@Vagajammer He wouldn’t be alive today regardless of what he did his heart was so enlarged he had maybe two years to live
No, Chris would be just like Lex Luger ( wheel chair) or Scott hall (death)
He did something terrible but he was still a great wrestler. I can understand if someone can't separate the two, his crimes were just too extreme at the end. If you feel that way, it's fine, but don't try to make people who fondly remember his wrestling feel like shit.
P.S. If she can "hang in the modern WWE" then Chris certainly would have been able to. It's just a shame and I don't want to deflect or make excuses but his brain was swiss cheese. I just wish he had somehow got help before or maybe in a different timeline Eddie lives.
P.P.S. Well, she's in Impact, not WWE.
People find it really hard to separate the 2 since his ring name was his real name. And that’s a shame.
Ergo hulk hogan isn’t a racist but terry bollea on the other hand…
@@FrozenSurf That is a good point that I didn't think about.
It's fine to fondly remember his wrestling, but it's another to act like the things he did should be glossed over so that work can be honored publically. Some people just take things too far.
@@user-do2ev2hr7h yeah we can’t ever forget what he did.
I haven’t watched many Benoit matches since. If any. I can’t really remember. Certainly no wwe/Wcw/Ecw ones
They’re quite hard to find now.
@@user-do2ev2hr7h I agree - if you're going to remember his wrestling you have to also remember his end.
when I was a child, i thought "butterface" was a term for people who look like they'd eat butter
Jordynne Grace has bigger muscles than Jim Cornette's boyfriend
I think jordynne did this on purpose because she's getting notice and I like her a little bit but bad attention is good attention for her. This is the social media era. They will do or say anything for clout and people will eat it up and love her and other haters for it
She's on the show where Flair's wrestling next and this is good publicity for her. She's not a dummy.
she is getting what she wants by all this attention, there’s no reason for her to even be speaking on the topic. and she prefixed it with her demand for controversy
HEY I PAY 300 Canadian for Butterfaces!
Chris Benoit inside the ring is one of those guys that made you believe everything that was happening was real. Chris Benoit those last 3 days, I cannot and will not defend by any means.
I can still watch Chris Benoit matches without feeling uncomfortable. Is that supposed to be hard or something?
I can't. Every time I see him do the headfirst off the top rope giving himself worse brain damage, or the crippler choke out which I imagine he used on his wife and son I just zone out.
I haven’t watched a Benoit match in 16 years.
I've watched a few. It's not a big deal. That would be like not watching The Naked Gun because OJ Simpson is in it .
Benoit was murdered
Jim is going to trend again after this clip 😂
I bet Jim would be thrilled at Ja Morant saying he could have cooked Michael Jordan yesterday...
The end about how no one wrestles more than twice a week anymore makes the recent build-up of injuries across the industry all the more baffling. Most, including myself, assumed that once the house show schedule tapered off that guys would be properly refreshed and able to work at full strength with more rest. Instead they're getting hurt more and more.
She just didn't have the balls to call out angle so she took a shot at a dead guy who she thought people would back her on because of what he did at the end of his life which was terrible and not excusable ever
Like konnan said on his show about this nobody could match Chris in terms of his passion is intensity and his preparation before a match. She said all what she said and then when people started to disagree with her she came with the 'I just can't separate the person from the wrestling' okay cool then don't bring up the wrestling part then. Because yeah what Chris did was absolutely awful and should never be forgiven for that but in terms of what he did for a living which was was pro wrestling he was one of the best of his era.
There's been alot of people in the world who do awful things but are also very good at there jobs. Saying things like ahh he woudnt be able to remember a match Chris didn't need to remember a match he could just have one on the fly in the ring against anybody because he was a great pro but again not excusing what he did in his final days just because he was a great in ring wrestler. She was just after clout with that post and it was a discussion that wasn't needed
Dude Jim absolutely rules for keeping it real at all times.
I would be mad too if I was married to Gary Coleman oops meant Gresham
😂 gary coleman
I feel like the Uso's and the Street Profits wrestle each other 5 times a week on 2 shows.
This might be the first time I'm 100% in agreement with Brian Last. I can go the rest of my life without ever seeing a Chris Benoit match. But his talent in the ring is undeniable. There are very few of the current generation who could hang with him. If this were any other time in wrestling history, a lot of these goofs would have been run out of the locker room year one and never have been allowed to step foot in the ring.
"I can go the rest of my life without ever seeing a Chris Benoit match." -- Yours and Brians respective moral high horses are preventing you from rediscovering and reliving greatness, sad. Seperate art from artist. It's not hard. Everyone does it with music and movies anyways so why not pro wrestling.
When I think of Chris Benoit I think of one of his most iconic moves. The flying headbutt. When he would climb to the top rope and jump as high as he could and land with a head butt. Now most likely he never did make head to head contact as that would have most likely left both him and his opponent with fractured skulls. He did slam his head from the top rope into the canvas to make the sound which one could only assume would be a concussion event. How many times did he do this move over his career? Hundreds? Thousands? I will assume that the nicest guy according to all that worked with him and the repeated head trauma is the cause of his mental breakdown and crimes. So knowing he was sick and why he was sick and that his sickness went undiagnosed till after his death. How can you blame the man not the sickness? Lets try and separate the two and do better in the future to protect professional wrestlers from suffering his sickness.
I think of his crimes
@@lmaoitsmee1812 know what?
Do we forgive OJ because he most likely has CTE?
@@johnappleseed6210 nobody said anything about forgiving. that’s been out the door the second we learned that he did it.
@@lmaoitsmee1812 Then why is Benoit given this forgiveness or understanding? The only difference between the cases is we know Benoit killed them