Speedybee has been a well known option for budget stacks. I dont know why hardly anyone talks about JHEMCU stacks. They have been my go to for a while. Even lower price than speedybee. Now If these budget companys start using the AT32 chips, whats a stack going to cost in future? Like 30 bucks instead of already low price 60 bucks for a stack. Oh god, I'll be building even more quads 😅
My experience with a Jhemcu 5a whoop board is that wifi that it was supposed to have did not excist due to some mistake in design and later on any mention of it was removed from documentation. The pcb trace that was intended as antenna is clearly visible. The esc part smoked after few flights, replaced the mosfets on 3 of them, then the fourth one blew up aswell. Replaced those aswell and now its been running fine without any changes in tune or motors/props.
Ive been flying the Iflight AT32 for 2 months now. Works great! Cant wait for more options. I don't see myself buying any other FC again. Price to performance this is the best FC you can get.
Thanks a lot Ian! I am right now building a quad with Neutron RC Whoop sized AIO. Didnt have the time to plug it in and flash already but would have stumbled upon the driver issue 😂 with your video in mind it will be a lot faster.
So far I have tried 2 different F435 based flight controllers from 2 different manufacturers (including this one). Both had CPUs that overheated on the bench with just the flight controller plugged in to USB power.
I actually saw that fc on ali a couple of days ago. Thought it was some really old fc based on the color :P Nice to see a move to lower prices. Hope the escs can follow suit. Oh and motors of course.
When will manufacturers finally drop the OSD chips 🤷🏼♂️ Gives more pads, more room for power filtering whatever and saves some bucks or do I miss smth? Osd could be fitted as some time ago as separate board or not for people still doing analog?
When 50% of the market are not flying analog. The issue with removing the analog OSD chip means retailers would need to stock twice as many lines and the chance of you getting the one you want is reduced, which is OK for digital pilots, but would suck for analog pilots and would probably mean less or more wildlly fluctuating sales for retailers. I imagine there would be slightly more complexity for manufacturers too, but I assume they can use the same board, so the complexity for the manufacturer would be less.
I mostly use HDZero and Walksnail, but still love analog. Agree that vendors need to have two versions of FC, one with OSD and one w/o, but this chips costs 1$ on their scale and +0.5 gram for weight, so likely nobody will invest in separation
@@VolodymyrMoon yes its marginal but a little more real estate for pad sizes would be a good thing. Also having more room for better power filtering could improve gyro signal.
small nitpick, don't mix up your megaBITS to your megaBYTES, Megabytes are 8 times bigger. It's also not the best idea to compare different CPU families' clock speeds, as the M7 has a different pipeline and can optionally have cache which can potentially make it more efficient at the same clock speed.
Is your follow up video on the AT32 ready? Really like to know how they perform in the field. Do you know if there are AT32 based AIO coming in the future?
Great video. Eager to see SpeedyBee jump on this and make their stacks even cheaper.
Speedybee has been a well known option for budget stacks.
I dont know why hardly anyone talks about JHEMCU stacks. They have been my go to for a while. Even lower price than speedybee.
Now If these budget companys start using the AT32 chips, whats a stack going to cost in future? Like 30 bucks instead of already low price 60 bucks for a stack.
Oh god, I'll be building even more quads 😅
Tell us more about the JHEMCU please
My experience with a Jhemcu 5a whoop board is that wifi that it was supposed to have did not excist due to some mistake in design and later on any mention of it was removed from documentation. The pcb trace that was intended as antenna is clearly visible. The esc part smoked after few flights, replaced the mosfets on 3 of them, then the fourth one blew up aswell. Replaced those aswell and now its been running fine without any changes in tune or motors/props.
@@rehepeks thanks for sharing. From my experience all 5A aio suck. I got a whole bunch of dead 5A aio. Doesn't matter what manufacturor.
They're hit and miss. I've bought enough to say this
With F722 pricing, it is difficult to understand why one wouldn't just go to the H7 at that point.
Ive been flying the Iflight AT32 for 2 months now. Works great! Cant wait for more options. I don't see myself buying any other FC again. Price to performance this is the best FC you can get.
Thanks a lot Ian! I am right now building a quad with Neutron RC Whoop sized AIO. Didnt have the time to plug it in and flash already but would have stumbled upon the driver issue 😂 with your video in mind it will be a lot faster.
almost trashing my neutron fc wont flashed to 4.5, ur tutorial was helping me, thanks
I have the NeutronRC AIO and build a 3 inch racing quad and it’s taken a beating and still working fine.
which board you use for AIO?
@@jonathanoeijoeng the 35a one with AM32 firmware.
So far I have tried 2 different F435 based flight controllers from 2 different manufacturers (including this one). Both had CPUs that overheated on the bench with just the flight controller plugged in to USB power.
Great overview, thanks, competition is always good...😳😏😀🇬🇧
Where are the links to these new FC's?
Just Google AT32 flight controller
Thanks for keeping us informed!!!
Great video and awesome development in the hobby!
Love the price.. wish it was kiss ultra tho😂.. running behind the shields now waiting for the incoming shots😂 😮
Load weapons 😀😂
The iFlight Blitz Mini FC's "no connect" pin is same as on the STM32 chip. STM32 also has that pin floating.
We needs stack for 30$!
I actually saw that fc on ali a couple of days ago. Thought it was some really old fc based on the color :P
Nice to see a move to lower prices. Hope the escs can follow suit. Oh and motors of course.
My FC board is a neutonRC here (Can),
not nutronRC
Thanks for the video!
thanks mads tech
You're welcome!
Thanks mate! 👍😉
ARM also licenses the Instruction Set Architecture (ISA) to companies that design their own cores.
Yes largely what Apple does.
Thanks for all the info, Ian! 😊
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Thank´s for that great video and information!
Interesting to that the chip price difference is 10$, but the fc price goes from 100$ down to 30$....
Oh here we go back to Zadig again. I don't suppose it works on a Mac? Oh well probably worth it to get back to reasonable prices again.
I did not see Mac drivers but let me check more.
I didn’t need any special drivers on my Mac. Just worked. :) ( I had to set the configurator to show all devices as per instructions. )
I'll be using the SpeedyBee/Betaflight app on a phone. I always have good luck with it.
When will manufacturers finally drop the OSD chips 🤷🏼♂️
Gives more pads, more room for power filtering whatever and saves some bucks or do I miss smth? Osd could be fitted as some time ago as separate board or not for people still doing analog?
When 50% of the market are not flying analog. The issue with removing the analog OSD chip means retailers would need to stock twice as many lines and the chance of you getting the one you want is reduced, which is OK for digital pilots, but would suck for analog pilots and would probably mean less or more wildlly fluctuating sales for retailers.
I imagine there would be slightly more complexity for manufacturers too, but I assume they can use the same board, so the complexity for the manufacturer would be less.
I mostly use HDZero and Walksnail, but still love analog. Agree that vendors need to have two versions of FC, one with OSD and one w/o, but this chips costs 1$ on their scale and +0.5 gram for weight, so likely nobody will invest in separation
@@1337flite OSDs can be added via UART, so not a biggie and vendors don't have to stock two versions
@@VolodymyrMoon yes its marginal but a little more real estate for pad sizes would be a good thing. Also having more room for better power filtering could improve gyro signal.
@@jas-FPV Fully agree. Had so many issues with electrical noise on fcs lately.
small nitpick, don't mix up your megaBITS to your megaBYTES, Megabytes are 8 times bigger. It's also not the best idea to compare different CPU families' clock speeds, as the M7 has a different pipeline and can optionally have cache which can potentially make it more efficient at the same clock speed.
Is your follow up video on the AT32 ready? Really like to know how they perform in the field. Do you know if there are AT32 based AIO coming in the future?
In April or May。
Thanks!
Thumbs up
Always a winner bro does AT32 have a ca.n bus bro
Hey m not finding neutronrc f435mini firmware..beta flight detects it but doesn't detect firmware
Lets get a review of the AIO also NeutronRC AT32F435 mini AIO
Works pretty good. I have on 3 inch racing quad and I had no issues crashing all day and using turtle mode on grass. I am running on 4s
Why would you use their £20 fc when you can get a full aio for just £15 more?
because aios are shit? at least for most builds you would want a seperate esc...
What aio are you getting for 20$ more that actually has an esc that can handle a 5”
@@seanmetzger4780 neutronrc at32f435
The NeutronRC AT32F435 Mini Aio 35a
Coz AIOs suck?
The aio fcs are cheap and well built
Ah not just me thinking that then lol
why on earth did they choose "AT" ?? That's been ATMEL for 2 decades now. AY ATY TY .. all fine but AT .. that's wickedly annoying
This video was CRITICAL when NeutronRC's own instructions had broken links and terrible explanations
A shill for your FPV WIKI. when will it end?
Never
Just leaving comments for the algorithm. Seeing as though I'm a shill for numbers
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