Here is a summarized ver. Of xnaya's tier list that i stole, For tiers and what they each mean basically its: High tiers have total freedom, your choice of mc and ce with 50% np Mid tiers are more locked to limited choices of mc and mostly need mlb scope. Bottom tiers are those that require specific servants such as waver or bb (for fran) and needs mlb kscope Nope tier: No, just no. High tier: Dantes, Parvati, Valkyrie, Atalanta Mid tier: Marie, Zerkerlot, Achilles Bottom tier: Summer shishou, Astolfo, Ishtar rider, fran Nope tier: Fuuma, Medusa, Tama cat, Alexander I only included servants in NA if you want with jp servants then check xnaya's video.
@@FGOboi Zerkerlot at NP1 will be able to handle 90% of quests. Higher NP helps with high hp enemies which can show up in some events. But most of the time NP1 will be fine.
E pubris unum go to Deming where you can get 2 dragon fangs per run, just bring an assassin from your support list, they don't have to be aoe or single target specifically but they should be able to clear the last wave quickly. You face 2 wyverns in the first two waves which are pretty easy, the third wave has 2 wyverns with 40000 hp and 1 with 100000, so you either bring king hassan and destroy the big one quickly or use Shuten and debuff them to the point where they cant do much damage to your party. You should have at least a shuten or Hassan on your friends list otherwise any aoe/or single target assassin that can kill the last wave quickly will work.
@@deathstar6998 I'm already farming the Deming nodes and still only managed to acrue 2-3 fangs on average per full AP but I appreciate the input :) I had 40 of them but then my Drake ate them all 😒
I started playing fgo a little over a month ago and this video, for someone like me is really useful and explained perfectly. You deserve more subscribers but in any case thank you!
ThorW after reading your comment and other people being sad over not getting skadi, i decided to waste 30 quartz on her banner in tribute of E luck players and got my first kscope(badly needed) this banner man
There's also the system that allows Berserker Lancelot to farm without superscope, and it includes the babilonia mystic code, and a petite devil CE. The idea is to use one of the skadis battery turn one, activate his 3rd skill, and try to reach 90% in order to fill up the NP with the 10% of the babilonia mystic code. This way, you can get 50% for the third wave. It works for everything up to assassins, I couldn't make it work on berserkers sadly. Maybe if you can get a sapphire MLB, but I don't have it.
Pretty sure that requires a really low level w1. Edit: But since you’ve been testing it, what kind of nodes have you experimented on? Edit2: Not being able to refund as much on Assassins and Zerkers is natural though. I don’t know why exactly, but I’m pretty sure it has to do with class properties (such as Casters and Riders being able to refund more when hit).
@@jasonwang1763 I've been doing it just fine with the 40k waves in the hunting grounds so far, with this saber node being the hardest There is a lot of ways to minmax too, you can use cards to lower the hp of one of the mobs and allow a +2~4% np because of how many hits zerklot has on his np My zerkerlot is lv90 tho, maybe that's a bit of a factor coz his damage is above average
Sri R. Level 90 will help, but even more so will np level (what is it btw)? Anyways, min-maxing with face cards is definitely an option (I had to when I started jp with my scuffed np2 10/5/1 parv and 4/4/6 skadi). Problem is, it sounds like card rng might be important here (does every run require it, and have you tested that it would work with even Skadi’s cards?), and it’ll waste time through the attack animations, when quick is all about trying to minimize time spent by only watching three np animations + the required skill animations (which for some is a whale thing). Of course, there’s the argument that if it guarantees that the comp works, then you’re definitely saving time in the end, if you have no other option. I guess this system wasn’t included in the list simply because face carding isn’t as consistent and doesn’t fit within the criteria? Edit: Sorry that I’m being so skeptical, it’s just that I saw a similar comp the other day that titled itself to be a zss system, but all of w1 were 10k hp mobs, so their np1 zerkerlot could refund to 100%. Seeing that your comp works against 40k hp definitely helps. However, they could only refund to 40% on w2 because it had a 60k mob, and after checking that the hunting quest nodes don’t have one, can you account for a chunky w2 mob as well? I feel like skadi’s cards showing up here will play a bigger role, since it may not do enough damage, and I’ve definitely been screwed by that in jp.
@@jasonwang1763 What I've seen is that the cards actually work as long as you can get one enemy to 20k. This works with Skadi cards too because she still has her 100% crit with the last np's stars. Even then, you can just use one of the defdowns in the second wave, buffing lancelot's damage to make him overcharge My lancelot is NP4 btw
Just remember guys that Nero Bride gets her 30% charge next year and that opens up more possibilities if you have her. You also get Asclepius for budget options and he can really help.
Looking at my Chaldea with: NP5 Atalanta NP4 Zerkalot NP1 Dantes Skadi would be pretty nice to have... real nice.... I rolled 400+ SQ and didn't get a single 5 star.
That a neat explanation, I actually use Arts teams before and I think they are better in longer battles through multiple times of NPs with the Arts NP refund either with Tamamo's NP or Waver's skills. Then the Skadi system is for shorter fights which is at best at farming then with some bosses fights.
@@Duriku The Harry Potter suit actually does give 20%, but that's not the problem. The issue is Lancelot can't refund 50% without his Mana Reversal, which only lasts one turn. Using it for W1 means you can't NP again on W3. That's why you a Superscope is almost a requisite for 3T-ing with him, since it frees you up to use 2004. It might be possible with the plugsuit and Waver, but I haven't tried it out yet; and even on paper, it's very wonky.
@@crypto66 I see now, I had to search for something since it makes a lot of sense what you said, and found this: Turn 1: Provide Lancelot with both Skadi Quick Ups and use Lancelot's Mana Reversal. Use one of the Skadi's 50% charges Turn 2: Use the Chaldea Combat Uniform to swap in Waver. Provide his Critical Up charge to Lancelot Turn 3: He will regenerate 30% charge in most casts. Use Waver's attack and defense charges (20%) and use the other Skadi's charge (50%) to complete. But I think there would be cases where he won't charge the needed np
I didn't see a triangle on lancelot of Double skadi mlb kscope + frag 2004 which should be his best set up ( my roommate uses it without a fail so far ) and i' stuck with normal scope dantes double skadi mage asoc uniform
This helped me A LOT I have a zerkalot np 2 10 x3 and wanted to see if it really worked. Plus now I have all the information I needed to make my teams work. Thank you.
Another variable I don't see mentioned too often is Skadi's bond CE, it can be the difference between 48% and 49%, or 28% and 29% sometimes. I can run double Skadi with Summer Ushi with no Waver with Skadi's bond CE on some Rider nodes, so its worth throwing in there if you ever come up short
There's another way to budget 3 turn farm with one Skadi and one Waver. You will need "A Fragment of 2004 Mystic Code". Front row: Arash (with golden sumo or holy night summer or aerial drive, etc), Waver, and Lancelot Berserker(with golden sumo or holy night summer, etc). For turn 1, you use Waver skills to help charge Arash and Lancelot Berserker to 100%. Then Arash nukes on turn 1. When he dies, you bring in Skadi. For turn 2, use Skadi's quick skill + all of Lancelots skills + Mystic Code NP Gain skill. Then, Lancelot Berserker nuke turn 2. For turn 3, Lancelot should have at least 50% so you use Skadi's NP charge skill to help Lancelot Berserker Nuke with NP. Hope this helps fellow NA player! Also, I forgot to mention that it may be useful to grail Arash to lv.70 and Lancelot Berserker to lv.90 for better damage! You won't regret it!
When i got skadi a few weeks ago I literally lvl her up till max ascention to get her 3rd skill but before I tested her out on the field I need info on the so called Skadi system until I stumbled upon your video on it
It was not only nostalgic on the opening but also informative on the rest of which servants is compatible and which is not along with which CEs you need but the highlight of it all is the 2 servants that is the kings of Speed NP loop Edmond and Zerkerlot.
I don't have a limit broken Kaleidoscope but I only have a normal one and equip it to Zerkerlot with the front row team of a friend's Skadi with 3rd skill max and my waver while my Skadi as backup
I tried the team on the last summer event missions with a nothing but 3 turns clears all over again 1st turn: Use All Zerkerlot skills, Skadi's 1st skill and Waver's 2nd and 3rd skill then NP(if there's quick cards used Waver, Skadi and Zerkerlot for additional crit stars) 2nd turn: used Skadi's 3rd skill if Zerkerlot's NP bar is 60% then NP( if there's quick cards used Waver or Skadi for additional crit stars) 3rd turn: Used Waver's 1st skill if Zerkerlot's NP at 30% then switch with the backup Skadi then used 1st and 3rd skill on Zerkerlot for the 100% and used the 2 Skadi's 2nd skill on the enemies, attack first with with Zerkerlot's Buster or Art card on the boss monster for crit damage then finish it with NP.
Laughs in lvl 100 10/10/10 Achilles that works on all enemies except MAYBE assassins. The Skadi System does not believe in "only" one type of enemy. All must bow down and worship the might of QUICK!
Currently saving for Dantes I rlly hope he comes cuz he rejected me on every banner he’s been on until now ;w; I mostly wanted him cuz he’s husbando but now that I have Skadi that’s even better
I have Nero Bride, Waver, 3 Kaleido and get Dantes on GSSR, but failed to summon Skadi. I basically have everything good to do Skadi system, except the damn Skadi.
Her reign lasted for two years so I'm satisfied but I feel sorta bad that Caster Artoria powercrept her HARD. I dropped her and her Quick companions on the spot since Arts Looping is so much better. At least Skadi can take a break (or apply for retirement).
incorrect. Skadi and her operate under different assumptions, and Caster Artoria is really good, I have her and I use her frequently, but Arts looping, while more powerful in NP damage and thus better for 3T loop farming, is still lacking the critical damage buffs. She is not going to be as good as skadi on content where the crits are a necessity. Skadi got away with not having a heal by simply enabling quick clears, it is particularly apparent how Skadi also feeds on itself when events like Gilfest stopped you from bringing two Skadis, it's just a snowball effect, if we put it in numbers a Skadi is a 50 and two Skadis is a 500, but as soon as their buffs wear off they're probably not living enough to get an NP off in most situations. This explosive power and consistent multi turn offensive explosion is still much better with Skadi. Caster Artoria operates on different rules, her only form of protection on her skills is a one turn targeted invul, and then her NP makes sure that you won't be dying to anything that doesn't remove buffs. She actually can charge her own NP quickly and all, but her defensive capacity, while better than Skadi's, still needs to compete with the fact that there is no crit happening, and that she can't really stack her invul buffs on the same target, which means using her buffs at once or on the same person is actually not a good long term plan. Basically, two caster artorias are nowhere as dangerous as two Skadis. If anything Caster Artoria is more likely to be paired with Tamamo because they compliment each other quite well for a long fight, while Double Skadi is still going to blow up anything that is blown-uppable.
I just recently started the game and decided to drop some of the SQ I was saving for summer on the Skadi banner. Was able to pick her up as well as a MLB "A Tale of Love and Hope" CE. Will this be able to replace Azure Magical Girl on Lancelot?
It won't work nearly as well because unlike Magical Girl CE, A Tale of Love and Hope doesn't provide NP gain% up. It's not a great CE to use for the Skadi System because it doesn't add any quick up, np damage up, or np gain% up; however you can use it as a basic one for 2 waves instead of 3 waves so you'll just have to deal with the first wave some other way like using Arash.
I tried to roll for jeanne ruler on skadi banner due to rate up got a second skadi aswell as all the anniversary ce including the 5 star one and several sr all with 8 tickets and 45 quartz
Is it even possible to Lancelot loop with only two Skadi's and no one else? no Waver, no Arash, no Paracelsus. Just Lancelot and Skadi, I'm trying to cut the fat on my party cost and make the most out of event CEs by using low rarity servants.
Wouldnt the CE One summer be a better option than holy night supper to use with plugsuit waver? also would you recommend rolling for Dantes if i already have NP5 zerkerlot?
One Summer works perfectly fine as well and may even be better in some instances. If you already have NP5 zerkerlot then you really won't have problems with skadi farming and Dantes is kind of an afterthought. Up to you to get him or not
I like how after all this time leading up to Skadi people were telling me she's so good... When you need about 3 requirements to even run her. You need her, a good AoE NP Quick servant (I literally JUST GOT Lancelot & Valkyrie), and every time I see something about the Skadi system people ALWAYS have an MLB K-scope. Like most people would be lucky to have 2 K-scopes lol. I get there are over servants and CEs you can use but people really got me thinking she was as great by herself (maybe double) as Merlin and Waver are.
While the optimal setup takes a lot, I did go over some more budget setups for fast farming involving Arash specifically because I don't expect everyone to get a SuperScope. It's still faster farming and more reliable than non Skadi methods. As for Skadi herself, she works extremely well with every quick servant in the game. If you have Jack, Melt, MHX, MHX Alter, Okita, etc etc then you can turn them into monsters that 3 turn challenge quests with little to no issue.
Even without the setup, Skadi still offers a 50% np battery and 30% def and critical down for 3 turns you really can't go wrong with that. Vs someone like Tamamo, Skadi can still be slotted into teams that don't solely consist of the card type she supports (Though not to the degree of Dick Wizard and Greg-sama).
Most my servants are quick, so she's better than Merlin for people like me..My only quick aoe is Valk but idc about 3t when I have Okita/Scathach/Nyalter anyways.. Merlin helps my Okitan so I'll give him that but Skadi does as well
I use Space Ishtar for 3T farming 99% of the time. Frontline: Arash, Waver, S.Ishtar Backline: Skadi, Skadi, Mashu Arash+Kscope (or a 50% Event CE) for the first turn. S.Ishtar (Black Grail or any Event CE) + Waver skills for the 100% NP charge. Swap Waver and buff Ishtar with double Skadi. The only reason why I’m using this setup is because my Arash, Waver, Skadi and S.Ishtar are all B.Grailed, so this is the best comp for me to farm some SQ 😅😅 I could use much easier/faster 3t comps, but i’m used to it and the SQ rain is unreal 😎😎😎
I've been using mlb one summer with my np2 lancelot. I hate to be a pest but does the math work out better for one summer or distant pilgramage? I'm using bride in addition to double skadi and doing 1 skadi charge wave one. 1 Charge wave 2 and use his np gain skill and he can get himself to 100 for wave 3. Since we have double success rate now would be a good time to know if I should switch and level up distant pilgramage for the extra atk. Ty if you can help and even if not this guide has been great.
@@kostan9844 I will tell u my situation haha... Recently i got skadi and merlin from gssr so i never had 2 ssr servants at d same time... My 1st problem my resources for xp, levelling up amd skill are all depleted including my qp.. Skadi level 90 1/1/1 Merlin lvl 90 9/5/10 than i start grinding for many things.. And i very much burn out from farming so now i want something that could make farming more convenient... I have 1200 sq and 80 tickets reserved for future..one of my target was waver but now im looking at np2 dantes.. What do u think i should do? Sorry making u reading my essay 🙏 #f2p
I don't have a K-scope. But according to the Zerkalot System at 20:00 I can just put an MLB Holy Night Supper on him, charge him with Waver in the first round, swap Waver for second Skadi with Plugsuit and then do the normal Skadi System, right?
so for the white triangles with 3 servants at the corners, does that mean I'll need all 3 of them to assist with Edmond, and I'll need to swap them in the middle of the battle?
TL:DR; Skadi system is for people who either love Quick/crit teams, a THICC support Caster & Shishou, or a dirty pepega whale who makes Dantes go brrr. Not very fond of DSS, NGL, but I'd consider the looming support Skadis I have once the Free Waver ticket and Space Aqua come out on NA.
18:22 I'm confused by one thing, if Berserkers has the lowest refund level in the game, then anyone who loops against them would be 100% viable, right? So it wouldn't be red = white?
red in dorapika's chart means it requires not a small number of overkill hits, around 2 and above per enemy white ALMOST always works in all cases regardless of overkill, or just needs 1 per enemy
My problem (n i bet most f2ps problem) is i don have mlb k.scope (just 1)...have 4 copies of imaginary element tho but not mlb...And it seems we need higher np level or maybe demonic bodhisattva ? Guess have to use Arash n 2004 mystic code...
If you don't have a super scope then you can use MLB magical girl of sapphire with mages uniform for it's large np gain% up. You can hit 80% charge against most classes with that setup. Higher NP level isn't necessary unless you plan on killing large enemies (~80k+ hp) with your NP. NP1 farms just fine vs the majority of farming nodes.
So....since I'm an idiot and that massive table confused me, does MLB K-scope Zerkerlot with 2004 work for everything, or does it have a point where it fails? The table shows that it works with MLB Magical girl/2004, but will Kscope also work 100%? Will it require having a lvl 10 on his reverse flow skill or will lvl 6 suffice?
Yes a MLB k-scope with Zerkerlot and Fragment of 2004 will work for everything. You will need his skill at level 10 for some nodes. A level 6 skill will only work for enemies like casters who provide more NP regen. Trust me though, it's worth the investment.
I don’t understand how np gain work Like in the event gave us 50% np gain so it should give me 100% np after i use zerkerlot right? Nope, the np dmg buff can but np gain buff cant
Skadi died harder than both tbh. I immediately stopped using her (and Waver) when the superior Caster Artoria arrived. Merlin is still extremely fun to use though.
I don't believe in tiers for rpgs since I typically manage to wreck everything from just the basic idea of how something works. Of course even then while Skadi pretty much does what merlin and tamamo do for arts and busters, damage outputs vary with buster still being on top quick and arts depend on who you use. The last problem with the Skadi system is it's not always good to use especially during main story and special event boss fights where the enemy specializes in either preventing buffs, removing buffs, instant NP on turn 1 or after breaking hp bar, and lastly as seen in lost belt 2 the annoying overuse of immunity from debuffs meaning you can't rely on that 2nd skill to lower defenses. This is also true against foes who do aoe normal attacks and while Skadi hp is on the high end for endurance she can't take too many hits outside of assassins assuming they don't crit. And it's also important to note that the double Skadi system only has one technically 2 defense options. 1 hit evade and instant death immunity. One is only good for 1 attack assuming invul pierce or guaranteed hit aren't active and death immunity is set niche specific to a handful of servants you won't fight often outside of nero and gil festivals. In short her defense options are limited and not the best. And lastly her skill cool downs are 6 turns at max level meaning for 3 turns after they wear off she's kind of useless unless you bring maid alter or tamamo and the mystic code to lower cool downs faster. Skadi much like Merlin and tamamo and waiver is a great support but her lack of defense options are not great as the other 3 at least have defense options tied to their skills although for tamamo it's mostly saving herself. After trying the Skadi system in various set ups it's biggest problem is you will only have the one attacker and a lot of what you're saying also depends on rng on what cards you draw since having something ready in case it manages to survive is important and the only reason dantes works is cause farming enemies aren't known for their high hp counts outside of nero and gil festivals. A good video overall but better options are to rely and have back plans in case Skadi or double Skadi doesn't work out.
So even if i grind fast to lostbelts just to ascend her to get third skill... I will still need to get 10/10/10 her? Then i will also need a strong quick servant? Fuck, hope atalanta will be enough for my f2p self
Omg. I should had rolled for berserker lancelot. Now I have to wait for the next free SR ticket. I was going for Main=Meltlilith, Support = waiver, with double skadi. But now I see the wave clear potential with berserker. I need him in my chaldea.
Thanks for the guide, I didn't really think I could get Skadi (best better accept the salt) but she do come. And I have an NP 3 Zerklot in my Chaldea. Guess its time for me too jump into Skadi System go brr..... (can't set them up properly yet though, since I'm in mats and QP Hell, thus can't raise Skadi skill to acceptable level :( )
I use either One Summer or Traces of Christmas since I don't have Kaleidoscope. They're both event CEs that increase quick performance and NP performance. One summer is NP damage up, Trace of Christmas is NP gain% up. And Fragment of 2004 is often the mystic code to use, yes.
Here is a summarized ver. Of xnaya's tier list that i stole, For tiers and what they each mean basically its:
High tiers have total freedom, your choice of mc and ce with 50% np
Mid tiers are more locked to limited choices of mc and mostly need mlb scope.
Bottom tiers are those that require specific servants such as waver or bb (for fran) and needs mlb kscope
Nope tier: No, just no.
High tier: Dantes, Parvati, Valkyrie, Atalanta
Mid tier: Marie, Zerkerlot, Achilles
Bottom tier: Summer shishou, Astolfo, Ishtar rider, fran
Nope tier: Fuuma, Medusa, Tama cat, Alexander
I only included servants in NA if you want with jp servants then check xnaya's video.
This tier list is a good one and as he says, xnaya has videos demonstrating various servants setup with Skadi.
Btw do u think it's really needed for Zerklot to >NP1?
How is yours?
@@FGOboi Zerkerlot at NP1 will be able to handle 90% of quests. Higher NP helps with high hp enemies which can show up in some events. But most of the time NP1 will be fine.
There's no rider ushi or chu(fsn)?
@@Makkundesuu those are single target, this tier list is more specific to aoe for farming
Picking up skadi because:
1. Waifu
2. Enable my other waifu MHXA for challenge quests
Picking up skadi because:
1.she is the ruler of quick cards and thus a great investment for future quick servants
2. Do-re-ni-shi-yo-u-ka-na-♪
Picking up Skadi because:
1: Waifu
2: Waifu
3: Waifu
Her being the Queen of Quick is just the cherry on top
Picking up Skadi because :
She comes with 5 tickets and is my first support
what is MHXA please help
swa jg lol srry Mysterious Heroine X Alter, although that might be even worse
I love the opening. Blast of nostalgia and laughs~
Of all the skadi guides, was this the one that most helped me.
That feel when you have Skadi but couldn't utilize her properly because your Berkelot is stuck at level 50. I'm in dire need of dragon fangs lol.
E pubris unum go to Deming where you can get 2 dragon fangs per run, just bring an assassin from your support list, they don't have to be aoe or single target specifically but they should be able to clear the last wave quickly. You face 2 wyverns in the first two waves which are pretty easy, the third wave has 2 wyverns with 40000 hp and 1 with 100000, so you either bring king hassan and destroy the big one quickly or use Shuten and debuff them to the point where they cant do much damage to your party. You should have at least a shuten or Hassan on your friends list otherwise any aoe/or single target assassin that can kill the last wave quickly will work.
@@deathstar6998 I'm already farming the Deming nodes and still only managed to acrue 2-3 fangs on average per full AP but I appreciate the input :)
I had 40 of them but then my Drake ate them all 😒
I started playing fgo a little over a month ago and this video, for someone like me is really useful and explained perfectly. You deserve more subscribers but in any case thank you!
used this as my skadi catalyst
rolled her in 2 tickets
thanks for saving me tons of quartz
Blessed be thy rolls
ThorW after reading your comment and other people being sad over not getting skadi, i decided to waste 30 quartz on her banner in tribute of E luck players and got my first kscope(badly needed)
this banner man
Eyy I got her in two tickets too congrats to us
i got her in my first 10x summon which is not as good as 2 tickets but atleast i didnt spend 400 plus quarts lmaoo
Crimson Phoenix luck ex gang
Oh man, if you had done a parody of the Samurai Jack intro I would have pissed my pants.
Me thinking Skadi system needs K scope.
Skadi: how about a kscope and me in a single roll .
Me: happy noises.
I don't know how but I got two before getting Skadi
Damnit gib me kscope ffs
Also known as the Skadi Starter Pack. If only you also got two valks to go along :D
There's also the system that allows Berserker Lancelot to farm without superscope, and it includes the babilonia mystic code, and a petite devil CE. The idea is to use one of the skadis battery turn one, activate his 3rd skill, and try to reach 90% in order to fill up the NP with the 10% of the babilonia mystic code. This way, you can get 50% for the third wave.
It works for everything up to assassins, I couldn't make it work on berserkers sadly. Maybe if you can get a sapphire MLB, but I don't have it.
Pretty sure that requires a really low level w1.
Edit: But since you’ve been testing it, what kind of nodes have you experimented on?
Edit2: Not being able to refund as much on Assassins and Zerkers is natural though. I don’t know why exactly, but I’m pretty sure it has to do with class properties (such as Casters and Riders being able to refund more when hit).
@@jasonwang1763 I've been doing it just fine with the 40k waves in the hunting grounds so far, with this saber node being the hardest
There is a lot of ways to minmax too, you can use cards to lower the hp of one of the mobs and allow a +2~4% np because of how many hits zerklot has on his np
My zerkerlot is lv90 tho, maybe that's a bit of a factor coz his damage is above average
Sri R. Level 90 will help, but even more so will np level (what is it btw)?
Anyways, min-maxing with face cards is definitely an option (I had to when I started jp with my scuffed np2 10/5/1 parv and 4/4/6 skadi). Problem is, it sounds like card rng might be important here (does every run require it, and have you tested that it would work with even Skadi’s cards?), and it’ll waste time through the attack animations, when quick is all about trying to minimize time spent by only watching three np animations + the required skill animations (which for some is a whale thing). Of course, there’s the argument that if it guarantees that the comp works, then you’re definitely saving time in the end, if you have no other option. I guess this system wasn’t included in the list simply because face carding isn’t as consistent and doesn’t fit within the criteria?
Edit: Sorry that I’m being so skeptical, it’s just that I saw a similar comp the other day that titled itself to be a zss system, but all of w1 were 10k hp mobs, so their np1 zerkerlot could refund to 100%. Seeing that your comp works against 40k hp definitely helps. However, they could only refund to 40% on w2 because it had a 60k mob, and after checking that the hunting quest nodes don’t have one, can you account for a chunky w2 mob as well? I feel like skadi’s cards showing up here will play a bigger role, since it may not do enough damage, and I’ve definitely been screwed by that in jp.
@@jasonwang1763 What I've seen is that the cards actually work as long as you can get one enemy to 20k. This works with Skadi cards too because she still has her 100% crit with the last np's stars.
Even then, you can just use one of the defdowns in the second wave, buffing lancelot's damage to make him overcharge
My lancelot is NP4 btw
@@srir.5282 Oh, np4 helps a lot, having a 350% damage increase from np1 LMAO.
Just remember guys that Nero Bride gets her 30% charge next year and that opens up more possibilities if you have her. You also get Asclepius for budget options and he can really help.
Looking at my Chaldea with:
NP5 Atalanta
NP4 Zerkalot
NP1 Dantes
Skadi would be pretty nice to have... real nice....
I rolled 400+ SQ and didn't get a single 5 star.
That a neat explanation, I actually use Arts teams before and I think they are better in longer battles through multiple times of NPs with the Arts NP refund either with Tamamo's NP or Waver's skills. Then the Skadi system is for shorter fights which is at best at farming then with some bosses fights.
This was a pretty good guide, and the skit in the beginning was pretty funny hope to so more from you good sir.
I came here after struggling to loop with Achilles, but now that i know how it works it might help me loop better, thanks a lot!
Didn't know what the hype over Skadi was before this. Thanks Thor!
Why im here i dont even have skadi after 530+ quarts
Instantly subbed the moment I saw the opening. Great Video
Now that I have Skadi, the only thing I need to 3T everything is Dantes.
...or a 3 more copies of Kscope for my Lancelot.
or just use a kscope with a mystic code that charges 20%
@@Duriku Go take some time to think over how that won't actually work.
@@crypto66 sorry, forgot that there are no mystic codes for 20%, but you can use any servant that gives 20% and combat uniform to change for skadi
@@Duriku The Harry Potter suit actually does give 20%, but that's not the problem.
The issue is Lancelot can't refund 50% without his Mana Reversal, which only lasts one turn. Using it for W1 means you can't NP again on W3. That's why you a Superscope is almost a requisite for 3T-ing with him, since it frees you up to use 2004.
It might be possible with the plugsuit and Waver, but I haven't tried it out yet; and even on paper, it's very wonky.
@@crypto66 I see now, I had to search for something since it makes a lot of sense what you said, and found this:
Turn 1: Provide Lancelot with both Skadi Quick Ups and use Lancelot's Mana Reversal. Use one of the Skadi's 50% charges
Turn 2: Use the Chaldea Combat Uniform to swap in Waver. Provide his Critical Up charge to Lancelot
Turn 3: He will regenerate 30% charge in most casts. Use Waver's attack and defense charges (20%) and use the other Skadi's charge (50%) to complete.
But I think there would be cases where he won't charge the needed np
Really good video, my only pointer would be that you can do some double takes on audio and splice it together to edit out any takes with slip ups.
I didn't see a triangle on lancelot of Double skadi mlb kscope + frag 2004 which should be his best set up ( my roommate uses it without a fail so far ) and i' stuck with normal scope dantes double skadi mage asoc uniform
This helped me A LOT I have a zerkalot np 2 10 x3 and wanted to see if it really worked. Plus now I have all the information I needed to make my teams work. Thank you.
Loved the intro, amazing throwback lmao
bro i just listened to that intro. you already got a like before I even watch the rest of it XD
Another variable I don't see mentioned too often is Skadi's bond CE, it can be the difference between 48% and 49%, or 28% and 29% sometimes. I can run double Skadi with Summer Ushi with no Waver with Skadi's bond CE on some Rider nodes, so its worth throwing in there if you ever come up short
I’ve been playing NA for years and not 1 copy of kaleidoscope has appeared
After getting Skadi I can safely say
That using her with waver and support Merlin is surprisingly effective
To be fair. On the servants who need help list. All the servants that have self 50% np charge will work with double skadi and swap in with waver.
I always come back once a year to watch this peak opening.
I subbed for that intro, that was so fantastic.
This is some good content you got there. Keep making fgo stuff please
who needs MLB K-scope when you have arash for wave 1
Hey just wanted to ask if a MLBd Golden Sumo Waver plugsuit combo would work since i wasn't able to get holy night supper.
And with Space Ishtar we have even easier looping imho. At least if one has waiver as well.
There's another way to budget 3 turn farm with one Skadi and one Waver. You will need "A Fragment of 2004 Mystic Code". Front row: Arash (with golden sumo or holy night summer or aerial drive, etc), Waver, and Lancelot Berserker(with golden sumo or holy night summer, etc). For turn 1, you use Waver skills to help charge Arash and Lancelot Berserker to 100%. Then Arash nukes on turn 1. When he dies, you bring in Skadi. For turn 2, use Skadi's quick skill + all of Lancelots skills + Mystic Code NP Gain skill. Then, Lancelot Berserker nuke turn 2. For turn 3, Lancelot should have at least 50% so you use Skadi's NP charge skill to help Lancelot Berserker Nuke with NP.
Hope this helps fellow NA player!
Also, I forgot to mention that it may be useful to grail Arash to lv.70 and Lancelot Berserker to lv.90 for better damage! You won't regret it!
But that will give up a slot when you farm lotto events.
Still 4 slot tho
@@Doge_Attack Well at least you don't need MLB Kaleidoscope because those are really hard to get.
This man really did this in one take and kept the stutters 🚪🚶♂️
When i got skadi a few weeks ago I literally lvl her up till max ascention to get her 3rd skill but before I tested her out on the field I need info on the so called Skadi system until I stumbled upon your video on it
It was not only nostalgic on the opening but also informative on the rest of which servants is compatible and which is not along with which CEs you need but the highlight of it all is the 2 servants that is the kings of Speed NP loop Edmond and Zerkerlot.
I don't have a limit broken Kaleidoscope but I only have a normal one and equip it to Zerkerlot with the front row team of a friend's Skadi with 3rd skill max and my waver while my Skadi as backup
I tried the team on the last summer event missions with a nothing but 3 turns clears all over again
1st turn: Use All Zerkerlot skills, Skadi's 1st skill and Waver's 2nd and 3rd skill then NP(if there's quick cards used Waver, Skadi and Zerkerlot for additional crit stars)
2nd turn: used Skadi's 3rd skill if Zerkerlot's NP bar is 60% then NP( if there's quick cards used Waver or Skadi for additional crit stars)
3rd turn: Used Waver's 1st skill if Zerkerlot's NP at 30% then switch with the backup Skadi then used 1st and 3rd skill on Zerkerlot for the 100% and used the 2 Skadi's 2nd skill on the enemies, attack first with with Zerkerlot's Buster or Art card on the boss monster for crit damage then finish it with NP.
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Scáthach Skadi
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Instructions unclear. Summoned Jeanne instead.
Laughs in lvl 100 10/10/10 Achilles that works on all enemies except MAYBE assassins. The Skadi System does not believe in "only" one type of enemy. All must bow down and worship the might of QUICK!
My Achilles is 90 and 10/10/10, does grailing to 100 actually allow him to do this?
Currently saving for Dantes I rlly hope he comes cuz he rejected me on every banner he’s been on until now ;w;
I mostly wanted him cuz he’s husbando but now that I have Skadi that’s even better
Lancelot REALLY needs some re work. A skill upgrade a strengthening quest something
Best. Opening. Ever.
That opening has more effort than my daily life.
Long time fgo player first time viewer and I have to say I FUCKING LOVE THE INTRO
I have Nero Bride, Waver, 3 Kaleido and get Dantes on GSSR, but failed to summon Skadi. I basically have everything good to do Skadi system, except the damn Skadi.
Her reign lasted for two years so I'm satisfied but I feel sorta bad that Caster Artoria powercrept her HARD. I dropped her and her Quick companions on the spot since Arts Looping is so much better. At least Skadi can take a break (or apply for retirement).
incorrect. Skadi and her operate under different assumptions, and Caster Artoria is really good, I have her and I use her frequently, but Arts looping, while more powerful in NP damage and thus better for 3T loop farming, is still lacking the critical damage buffs. She is not going to be as good as skadi on content where the crits are a necessity. Skadi got away with not having a heal by simply enabling quick clears, it is particularly apparent how Skadi also feeds on itself when events like Gilfest stopped you from bringing two Skadis, it's just a snowball effect, if we put it in numbers a Skadi is a 50 and two Skadis is a 500, but as soon as their buffs wear off they're probably not living enough to get an NP off in most situations. This explosive power and consistent multi turn offensive explosion is still much better with Skadi.
Caster Artoria operates on different rules, her only form of protection on her skills is a one turn targeted invul, and then her NP makes sure that you won't be dying to anything that doesn't remove buffs. She actually can charge her own NP quickly and all, but her defensive capacity, while better than Skadi's, still needs to compete with the fact that there is no crit happening, and that she can't really stack her invul buffs on the same target, which means using her buffs at once or on the same person is actually not a good long term plan. Basically, two caster artorias are nowhere as dangerous as two Skadis. If anything Caster Artoria is more likely to be paired with Tamamo because they compliment each other quite well for a long fight, while Double Skadi is still going to blow up anything that is blown-uppable.
I just recently started the game and decided to drop some of the SQ I was saving for summer on the Skadi banner. Was able to pick her up as well as a MLB "A Tale of Love and Hope" CE. Will this be able to replace Azure Magical Girl on Lancelot?
It won't work nearly as well because unlike Magical Girl CE, A Tale of Love and Hope doesn't provide NP gain% up. It's not a great CE to use for the Skadi System because it doesn't add any quick up, np damage up, or np gain% up; however you can use it as a basic one for 2 waves instead of 3 waves so you'll just have to deal with the first wave some other way like using Arash.
I'm wondering if NP1 Dantes with 100 Sumo and Waver would still work for double Skadi
I tried to roll for jeanne ruler on skadi banner due to rate up got a second skadi aswell as all the anniversary ce including the 5 star one and several sr all with 8 tickets and 45 quartz
I got her not knowing how crazy her buffs can be untill now.
i feel like i see the script in the beginning of the video somewhere...
The best guide ive seen for skadi Man
Thanks
Okay, this video deserves a like just for that intro
Is it even possible to Lancelot loop with only two Skadi's and no one else? no Waver, no Arash, no Paracelsus. Just Lancelot and Skadi, I'm trying to cut the fat on my party cost and make the most out of event CEs by using low rarity servants.
Wow I can't believe I didn't know about this new season of Samurai Jack!!!
Wouldnt the CE One summer be a better option than holy night supper to use with plugsuit waver? also would you recommend rolling for Dantes if i already have NP5 zerkerlot?
One Summer works perfectly fine as well and may even be better in some instances. If you already have NP5 zerkerlot then you really won't have problems with skadi farming and Dantes is kind of an afterthought. Up to you to get him or not
Zerker + holy night limit break, double skadi and waver = white Triangle?... How does that work?
So really (for me anyway) the big takeaway is. Level lancelot and his golden rule, max skadi, get Dante if possible. Good?
Oh my god here's a like for that Samurai Jack reference
like your opening, best of the best
All those berserker lancelot and atalanta spooks are finally paying off!
I like how after all this time leading up to Skadi people were telling me she's so good... When you need about 3 requirements to even run her. You need her, a good AoE NP Quick servant (I literally JUST GOT Lancelot & Valkyrie), and every time I see something about the Skadi system people ALWAYS have an MLB K-scope. Like most people would be lucky to have 2 K-scopes lol. I get there are over servants and CEs you can use but people really got me thinking she was as great by herself (maybe double) as Merlin and Waver are.
Im planning on making jack a super sayan for 3 turns.
Murder daughter and her 2 goddess mommy's
While the optimal setup takes a lot, I did go over some more budget setups for fast farming involving Arash specifically because I don't expect everyone to get a SuperScope. It's still faster farming and more reliable than non Skadi methods. As for Skadi herself, she works extremely well with every quick servant in the game. If you have Jack, Melt, MHX, MHX Alter, Okita, etc etc then you can turn them into monsters that 3 turn challenge quests with little to no issue.
Even without the setup, Skadi still offers a 50% np battery and 30% def and critical down for 3 turns you really can't go wrong with that. Vs someone like Tamamo, Skadi can still be slotted into teams that don't solely consist of the card type she supports (Though not to the degree of Dick Wizard and Greg-sama).
Most my servants are quick, so she's better than Merlin for people like me..My only quick aoe is Valk but idc about 3t when I have Okita/Scathach/Nyalter anyways..
Merlin helps my Okitan so I'll give him that but Skadi does as well
20:28 Me use np2 parvati for basically every quests
My problem is, I only got 1 scope in 3 years.....
I use Space Ishtar for 3T farming 99% of the time.
Frontline: Arash, Waver, S.Ishtar
Backline: Skadi, Skadi, Mashu
Arash+Kscope (or a 50% Event CE) for the first turn.
S.Ishtar (Black Grail or any Event CE) + Waver skills for the 100% NP charge.
Swap Waver and buff Ishtar with double Skadi.
The only reason why I’m using this setup is because my Arash, Waver, Skadi and S.Ishtar are all B.Grailed, so this is the best comp for me to farm some SQ 😅😅
I could use much easier/faster 3t comps, but i’m used to it and the SQ rain is unreal 😎😎😎
OMG!!!! that was the best intro homage to samurai jack XD
I've been using mlb one summer with my np2 lancelot. I hate to be a pest but does the math work out better for one summer or distant pilgramage?
I'm using bride in addition to double skadi and doing 1 skadi charge wave one. 1 Charge wave 2 and use his np gain skill and he can get himself to 100 for wave 3.
Since we have double success rate now would be a good time to know if I should switch and level up distant pilgramage for the extra atk.
Ty if you can help and even if not this guide has been great.
I loved the intro.
I'm from the future
I just got Skadi aaaand i already have Bond 10 10/10/10 Castoria :)
I want to try getting dantes in summer but do u think np1 will be suffice?
NP 1 could work on some farming nodes but NP 2 is needed if you want him to be consistent
@@kostan9844 Thanks
@@kingifan9640 if you only got NP 1 then a 10/10/10 on dantes is a must and also have to be fully grailed
@@kostan9844 I will tell u my situation haha... Recently i got skadi and merlin from gssr so i never had 2 ssr servants at d same time... My 1st problem my resources for xp, levelling up amd skill are all depleted including my qp.. Skadi level 90 1/1/1 Merlin lvl 90 9/5/10 than i start grinding for many things.. And i very much burn out from farming so now i want something that could make farming more convenient... I have 1200 sq and 80 tickets reserved for future..one of my target was waver but now im looking at np2 dantes.. What do u think i should do? Sorry making u reading my essay 🙏 #f2p
I have an np 2 Dante's. Is 2 enough or should I really look out for another rate up? Also what is Zerkalots recommended NP?
I don't have a K-scope. But according to the Zerkalot System at 20:00 I can just put an MLB Holy Night Supper on him, charge him with Waver in the first round, swap Waver for second Skadi with Plugsuit and then do the normal Skadi System, right?
yes that will work pretty much 100% of the time. For any of the white triangles in those system images I showed that setup will work.
@@ThorWgaming Ok, thank you! :)
so for the white triangles with 3 servants at the corners, does that mean I'll need all 3 of them to assist with Edmond, and I'll need to swap them in the middle of the battle?
For the white triangles, whatever is at the points of them is necessary for that setup to consistently 3 turn
@@ThorWgaming Thank you! I tried 2 Skadi, Waver and Max Holy Night Dinner, it's been working with farming.
Me who doesn't have Mystic Code 2004: 😐
Same, but I use the babylonia MC, it works out just fine until (hopefully) we get 2004 in January.
TL:DR; Skadi system is for people who either love Quick/crit teams, a THICC support Caster & Shishou, or a dirty pepega whale who makes Dantes go brrr. Not very fond of DSS, NGL, but I'd consider the looming support Skadis I have once the Free Waver ticket and Space Aqua come out on NA.
Thank you for this! :)
18:22 I'm confused by one thing, if Berserkers has the lowest refund level in the game, then anyone who loops against them would be 100% viable, right?
So it wouldn't be red = white?
red in dorapika's chart means it requires not a small number of overkill hits, around 2 and above per enemy
white ALMOST always works in all cases regardless of overkill, or just needs 1 per enemy
@@baikind Thank you very much, this question has been haunting me for a long time
My problem (n i bet most f2ps problem) is i don have mlb k.scope (just 1)...have 4 copies of imaginary element tho but not mlb...And it seems we need higher np level or maybe demonic bodhisattva ? Guess have to use Arash n 2004 mystic code...
If you don't have a super scope then you can use MLB magical girl of sapphire with mages uniform for it's large np gain% up. You can hit 80% charge against most classes with that setup. Higher NP level isn't necessary unless you plan on killing large enemies (~80k+ hp) with your NP. NP1 farms just fine vs the majority of farming nodes.
I don't have skadi
You're doing a good job. Uhms and uhs end up a bit distracting in a guide but this was very helpful all the same.
So....since I'm an idiot and that massive table confused me, does MLB K-scope Zerkerlot with 2004 work for everything, or does it have a point where it fails? The table shows that it works with MLB Magical girl/2004, but will Kscope also work 100%? Will it require having a lvl 10 on his reverse flow skill or will lvl 6 suffice?
Yes a MLB k-scope with Zerkerlot and Fragment of 2004 will work for everything. You will need his skill at level 10 for some nodes. A level 6 skill will only work for enemies like casters who provide more NP regen. Trust me though, it's worth the investment.
I don't have the Count to do this but at least I got np5 berserkerlot...
PLEASE COME HOME DANTES!!
This has changed with Castoria, still a good video
i have skadi but i still do more damage with arash spishtar and arjuna on norm waver so ima stay
So what CE's do i put on Skadi? does it matter?
UA-cam really wants my salt no skadi but have Valkyrie np 2
I don’t understand how np gain work
Like in the event gave us 50% np gain so it should give me 100% np after i use zerkerlot right?
Nope, the np dmg buff can but np gain buff cant
Lazy me wondering: Do I NEED Berzerkalot/Dantes's NP gain skill maxed? Crying with the requirement on skill mats.
You do unfortunately . Some events only have two enemies on wave two so you need all the np gain you can get
Today i got Skadi but didn't have a Kscope so i guess no 3 turn farming for me
And just like that waver and merlin went extinct
Skadi died harder than both tbh. I immediately stopped using her (and Waver) when the superior Caster Artoria arrived. Merlin is still extremely fun to use though.
I don't believe in tiers for rpgs since I typically manage to wreck everything from just the basic idea of how something works. Of course even then while Skadi pretty much does what merlin and tamamo do for arts and busters, damage outputs vary with buster still being on top quick and arts depend on who you use. The last problem with the Skadi system is it's not always good to use especially during main story and special event boss fights where the enemy specializes in either preventing buffs, removing buffs, instant NP on turn 1 or after breaking hp bar, and lastly as seen in lost belt 2 the annoying overuse of immunity from debuffs meaning you can't rely on that 2nd skill to lower defenses. This is also true against foes who do aoe normal attacks and while Skadi hp is on the high end for endurance she can't take too many hits outside of assassins assuming they don't crit. And it's also important to note that the double Skadi system only has one technically 2 defense options. 1 hit evade and instant death immunity. One is only good for 1 attack assuming invul pierce or guaranteed hit aren't active and death immunity is set niche specific to a handful of servants you won't fight often outside of nero and gil festivals. In short her defense options are limited and not the best. And lastly her skill cool downs are 6 turns at max level meaning for 3 turns after they wear off she's kind of useless unless you bring maid alter or tamamo and the mystic code to lower cool downs faster.
Skadi much like Merlin and tamamo and waiver is a great support but her lack of defense options are not great as the other 3 at least have defense options tied to their skills although for tamamo it's mostly saving herself. After trying the Skadi system in various set ups it's biggest problem is you will only have the one attacker and a lot of what you're saying also depends on rng on what cards you draw since having something ready in case it manages to survive is important and the only reason dantes works is cause farming enemies aren't known for their high hp counts outside of nero and gil festivals. A good video overall but better options are to rely and have back plans in case Skadi or double Skadi doesn't work out.
So even if i grind fast to lostbelts just to ascend her to get third skill... I will still need to get 10/10/10 her? Then i will also need a strong quick servant? Fuck, hope atalanta will be enough for my f2p self
Why am I here. Skadi never even came after 500 sq
Omg. I should had rolled for berserker lancelot. Now I have to wait for the next free SR ticket. I was going for Main=Meltlilith, Support = waiver, with double skadi. But now I see the wave clear potential with berserker. I need him in my chaldea.
I got super lucky and got a second skadi and berserkerlot while doing a 10 roll for the CE lol
@@Gargerey I hate you so much Master of Chaldea. I hope your np2 skadi and zerkerlot are doing well.
but the question is, what NP level
got Lancelot to NP5 while rolling for skadi... lucky me.
Thanks for the guide, I didn't really think I could get Skadi (best better accept the salt) but she do come. And I have an NP 3 Zerklot in my Chaldea. Guess its time for me too jump into Skadi System go brr..... (can't set them up properly yet though, since I'm in mats and QP Hell, thus can't raise Skadi skill to acceptable level :( )
yep i feel you also didnt think i would get her plus with a zerklot soooo
also in QP hell and need the mats for skills which is a big oof for me
@@nikonee507 Yeah, just weeks before, I spend all my caster gem for raising Sieg skill for Sieg Loop system. If only I had known.
@@norushoutcast ya which is a big rip that i need These secret gem of casters which i need to farm a hella lot
wow one of the best opening
What CE does your Lancelot use for the Skadi + Arash + Lancelot combo?
And I assume you're using Fragment of Year 2004?
I use either One Summer or Traces of Christmas since I don't have Kaleidoscope. They're both event CEs that increase quick performance and NP performance. One summer is NP damage up, Trace of Christmas is NP gain% up. And Fragment of 2004 is often the mystic code to use, yes.
ThorW Is this loop possible without MC 2004? I unfortunately missed it. Thanks for the reply!