FGO's 7th Anniversary will come with a craft essence pick ticket. Kaleidoscope is on the list so you'll have a chance to grab one then. If you're wondering about Copescope aka Great Marshal of Magic, it fills the same charge functions as Kscope. However, it has an attack stat of zero, so you're not doing yourself any favors in the damage department by using it.
@@arcaneghost244 regular kscopes is better, most premier buster farmers are 5 stars, so all you need is one copy + bond 6 and then you can unlock and max the append 2, having multiple kscopes even helps with multicore farming, like using arash for the first wave for example
@@arcaneghost24Depends really on what servants do you use for farming. Me, I prefer having multiple Kscopes since they are more useful than having only 1 MLB Kscope.
@@ahoyforsenchou7288 My problem is more that it takes a CE slot, you have to use one of 3 mystic code and potentially occupy an extra servant spot if you have to tab in one. This means diminished event/bond/MC exp farming capacities. The only time it is decent is when you want to farm bond on the dps and don't need to occupy the extra slot via tab in (so only the 50%, not 30%). Then you do net more overall bond gain on your team than if you were to overflow an art looper. Koyan herself is not really worth farming bond for, her bond CE is meh. When and if I need the boost, I'd rather give her a C star CE so that I benefit more from her 3rd skill. That said, even without using buster loop, she's already at 7 because there are places where she's useful. So I'm not even worried about her bond progression.
Just finished leveling my Gong to 120 to properly greet Broberon once he arrives. Just imagine the damage numbers on turn 3 🎉 Edit: Don't have to imagine anymore, 700k+ neutral damage on T3. Now, if only I had an MLB black grail
@@velvet287 I guess It's because for Buster you aren't really looping cause you don't get charge back from Buster NPs, instead you give charge to your main Buster Farmer by "re-loading" their bar with Battery givers. I'll just call it looping lmao cause too used to saying it.
Cu Caster is still pretty dang good at NP1 against Assassins if you got Black Grail and a Merlin (or Oberon) as a Plugsuit support, so I wouldn't count him out entirely.
I feel like a dumbass for not thinking to stagger the double Koyan buffs by a turn and using Reines as a third charger to get Junao to loop lmao thanks Fino
This comes right after I finished levelling up Morgan's batteries, thus allowing her to do a proper 3-turn setup with Koyanskaya and Waver. This video couldn't have come out at a better time.
This video is presented so well and concise, the subject matter is divided effectively and efficient, and it is produced with a lot of quality and effort. Great job on this buster looping 'guide', Fino! The best I've seen! 👍
He can still 3 turn loop, any servant with a minimum of 10% np charge to themselves can loop with double oberon + koyanskaya. 1st turn = Kscope Np 2nd turn = Koyanskaya 50% np charge + Oberon np charge 50% 3rd turn = Oberon support 70% np charge + Oberon 20% np charge + karna 25% np charge. Thats 115% np charge all in all at 3rd turn
My 120 Gil is now suddenly a farmer, who would have thought? I'm currently using Caster Cu to do as many nodes as I can, he is really amazing with the double Vitch thing.
....I finally got her. After almost two weeks of farming bond points, I finally got her. It took me all 330 summons using all my SQs and tickets to reach the guaranteed summon threshold but I finally got her. I'm officially broke in terms of apples. He.. Hehe... Hehehe...🤪. I shudder to think this would be my experience with the gacha system when Lady Avalon, Ruler Sakadi and Summer Ibuki comes around.
I used to be skeptical of the Koyan system until I test drove it with Seibah and watched it click together. Damn bratty buster fox how dare she be actually useful...
I stg thanks to this bitch I'm in lore hell because of how much investment buster farming requires if you don't have an MLB K-scope. Also the first character I invested in Summer BB doesn't even do that much damage :(
BB would be a good farmer if her second skill had a 6 turn CD. I’ve always said that her NP should have a CD reduction like Ozy’s. If it did she would be in a much better spot
Perhaps in the future they'll give her that, or some form of ramping damage on it at the very least if they want to be absolutely anal about her S2's CD. Arc seriously pissed in her pina colata just be existing - the funny vamp should've been ST or Quick AoE ...
We've reached childhood's end; the gates to Neverland are shut forevermore and entropy can never decrease globally. It's time to talk about how Cleopatra's second skill enables her to 'loop' with an MLB copescope, Vitch, and double Oberon.
Space Ishtar can do the 50CE/KScope Double Koyan loop, but can also fit in the abnormal category and run Black Grail by using Castoria + Arts NP on turn 1, then switching to Buster for the other turns.
Oh damn. I just came back to the game after 4 years, impulse rolled the current banner, and apparently the 5 star I got is the key to a new buster looping meta?? I think this is a sign from the universe. It really is Fate lol
well now i need someone to kindly explain to me if an level(whaterver) Aerial drive would be better on a buster farm than a level 100 MLB Sumo or (level whatever)MLB dark grail
Emiya can loop with Black Grail thanks to having both Koyanskaya and Castoria. Oberon might work too depending on the node composition. The atlas mystic code is an option if you don't need the damage from 2 koyan, which is possible because he can crit a wave thanks to his 2nd skill, which can also come off cooldown on turn 3.
speaking of batteries bryn serker is just 10% away from glory lmao if her np battery per turn was 30% instead of 20% she would work with 2 koyan oberon
I think I'm doing it wrong, or at least not to their full potential. My set up is, super k-scope, Np1 Morgan, double Koyanskaya, and 50% charger in the back (Waver or Castoria) Turn 1, Morgan NP with super k-scope Turn 2, use Morgan's own battery, and Koyan-1 battery Turn3, plug suit->, reserved 50%, Koyan-2 battery The downside is, I have to use the plug-suit, and can't bring other mystic code.
Can’t you bring a 50% charge, use Morgan’s skills, both koyan batteries turn 2 and then Morgan’s skills again turn 3 plus a plug to a 50% charger? If you got a good 50% ce it’ll be a bit more damage
Using CE is also a donwside since arts can 6-slot. You can also Morgan has 50% charge, so you can clear turn 1 with habetrot and sacrifice. Use morgan with a 50% charge CE to boost her damage and clear t2 Turn 3 she gets 50 from each koyan and use the buffs from any mc you want. 2004 is probably the best if you don't have arctic lv 10. Before oberon it will deal more damage than plug waver and also has lower cost.
You don't need plugsuit for Morgan, you can just equip the atlas academy command code and use its third skill on Morgan on the third turn. That should reset your batteries' cooldowns and let you get 50% battery without the need for an additional 50% support like Waver.
If you have a Superscope (or regular plus append), then you're simplest build would be: 1. Drop Koyan's Buster buffs on Morgan, then pop her NP. 2. Use Morgan's batteries to get her to 50%, then use one of the Koyan's batteries. Pop NP. 3. Use the second Koyan's battery, then use Atlas Academy on Morgan. Pop her batteries to get to 100, then NP. There. No plugsuit, and you get to level up your (probably) not-maxed Atlas CE. The only drawback is no offensive buff on the CE, and weaker than say an Oberon build, but it makes the bestbuse of what you have. Spares you a slot for bond/CE, and it's slightly quicker.
So for Godjuna loops.. he needs the 20% append and a separate np gauge giver that isn’t Koyanskaya right? I have him just chillin at np3 so I gotta go ham with him
You can go with a 50% CE, 20% Append, and third charger Oberon for high end damage. If you have a Super Scope, you can run a 50% split charger like Waver instead with no append.
Actually, nah, I tried double Koyan system, but double Castoria still give more QoLs to my team in the long run(I mean, the duration I take for that particular battle). Maybe I am just too lazy to press the buttons. Castoria is something else...
Problem with Koyan is the amount of lores I fell like I need to use, lots need max 2nd append plus max skills for the battery cooldowns. Plus you need to pay more attention with the order of your skills and mystic codes are also more important. The amount of times I’ve failed because I used the wrong skill order or mystic code is crazy. Definitely a skill issue that I will resolve tho
As other said, Koyan is better for weird composition nodes that will pop out more often from now on. But if a node lets you go Arts Loop goes Brrrr, you can still have Castoria help you out in those.
I much prefer the Double Koyan system, no need to worry about number of enemies and refill calculations Just press skills and red buttons, they also benefit a lot more from Oberon in general compared to Quick and Arts cause of his own Buster buff
even if buster doesnt rely on the number of enemies, its still the most expensive to pull off, even the "best farmer" melusine isnt as good with only double koyan, she needs oberon to actually do her thing as the best. While for arts you usually can do fine with just castoria, or plugsuit waver (whos free with the ticket) for some uneven waves. Not undermining buster, just saying for the newer players out there and also for those with limited SQ, that you have to prepare yourself to invest hard if you want to buster loop. Not to forget that arts is still the best in CQ because of castoria.
If you use a CE or/ plug with arts you also don't have to worry about the number of enemies. While also getting top tier loopers like habetrot/iyo for free.
@@GS_CCCi been testing teams and so far loli vincy and summer janne do amazing tho i use full lb black grail and duble castoria miss crane and tamamo to get em to do enough damage to get throught neutral matchups
@@Bismarck9871 I feel like that is too much overkill, i have them both at np2 and using Foumes for 2k atk and 2004 is most times enough, with plug tamamo and a CE to compensate for lower np lv, i'm sure you wont need to use miss crane vs neutral.
@@bruh_bruh_the_bruhest_bruh Not remotely, way better than trying to use arts on 90+ nodes with 1 enemy waves where you need someone else besides DPS + double Castoria only. Oberon damage is just that cracked too and every account wants Oberon because he isn't useful in only buster farming.
Farming never been this easy before. I can buldoze through everything with my NP2 Morgan with this setup. Double Castoria is great, but since I don't have any top universal loopers like Space Ishtar or Summer Musashi, I can't loop on every stages cause of lack of loopers in some class. But as a Buster Berserker, Morgan can deal huge damages to every class except Foreigners. A mix class stages like ember farming isn't a problem anymore too. Extra personal bonus, I can bond up with Morgan easily too as I can bring her mostly everywhere lol.
@@RyoshuLimbus You don't necessarily need Kscope if you can get Oberon and Morgan's App Batt to Lv 10, as you can suffice with a 50% CE if you use her S1 Wave 1, both Koyan's Batteries Wave 2, then all of Oberon's Batteries on her Wave 3. Morgan Starts with 50 + 20% Charge, her S1 gives 30% NP and has a 6 CD that will be off CD by Wave 3 if used Wave 1, Koyans provides 100% NP and 4 turns worth of CD reduction, and Oberon provides the last 70% NP with Morgans now newly refreshed S1. If you only got NP1 Morgan, Koyan, and a Waver, however, you're going to run into some damage problems that are ultimately tolerable if you stick to Lv 90 or lower nodes. Use her S1 Turn 1 with the Kscope, fully charge her with the Koyans Wave 2, plug in Waver, and you should have 100% total NP charge by Wave 3 between Morgan's and his Batteries. Again, lowish damage, but she's great in stuff outside of farming and she is killer at killing Man Attribute enemies, so it balances out to your favor more often than not.
@@SilentBlackwing You're right - she _doesn't_ need Oberon to loop with her. So long as you're fine with either sticking to Atlas with a MLB Kscope (or Equiv amt of Charge) for no swap-tri loops, or have her App Batt Maxed and use your best 50% CE for plugsuit loops with another 50% Charger (Like Welfare Waver, to name an easily acquired example), Oberon is entirely unnecessary for her to do three NPs in a row. Same goes for other Buster Servants with 50% Total charge on a collective Max CD of 6 or less. It's just that Oberon is pretty much the _best_ Plugsuit option for virtually every Servant, outside of certain niche Arts Supports for Arts and Hybrid Units in general. If you want Morgan to deal as much damage as possible and have a chance to compete with the other Buster Judggernaughts, mof boi is a must.
Important to note, Because the most minmax buster requrements are append at lv 10 and 50% charge CE on a 30% battery that has 6 turns CD, ever since the release of oberon, almost every event has a 50% battery Free CE, so all of your 6 turns ñr less 30% chargers must have their append lored if you want to do this, but keep in mind, the second an event doesn't have a 50% CE buster tends to fall apart, Fairie Knight Cup had non man, high hp, high magic resistance nodes and the drop CE had no charge, and to top ot all off the last node was a 3/3/1 with a 1M kintoki at the end and it was archers, basically it was a Melusine Tailored node, you could also clear it with britomart, but basically everyone else was fucked
Here’s an issue I only have 1 kscope copy so getting another isn’t gonna do much for me but I only need one more black grail to mlb so I think I’m gonna have to take that on the ticket
Koyan finally gave my mistake account access to reliable farming. No Castoria and the farmer for a while was Zerklot with double Skadi…. And I’d sometimes find my team dead
Well, at least you had access to the double Skadi system. I was forced to use Arash, Paracelsus and Waver for years to compensate for the lack of Skadi and Castoria on my account. Now that I have Castoria and Koyanskaya I can breathe but I'm frustrated that I still can't exploit the full potential of my grailed Edmond and Voyager (and that's why Summer Skadi is my next target).
Just got Koyanskaya and Oberon, Melusi works surprisingly well for looping with a black grail with her 100% np buff. Use her 30% battery with oberon’s 20% battery and you get an a 50% charge, couple that with either Oberon or Kaya’s 50%. I’m lucky enough to have waver and Skadi, though I like running waver in this group, then just swapping out kaya when she’s dry. The black grail and buffs make her deal so much damadge that class affinity doesn’t matter as much
OG Saber is my favorite since she can do it with 2 koyanskaya and any mystic code, so i can level mystic code whlie farming doors or any other nodes where hp not too high
Emiya loop sounded great but in your vid you getting 120% refund while I, even with all the buffs early am only getting 94% at most. Is there some other NP Gain effect on him from somewhere?
/Mx castoria is probably fairly happy. Ever since I got her on her first banner she has been in 98/99% of all my battles. She most likely enjoys the break....
Main and Alternate Account both have Morgan and Koyan so both are OK with doing buster looping... though Main account can do all three since it has Skadi and Castoria, but slightly struggles to figure out who to use for Quick farming.
Gotta thank you for this video. I started playing around Castoria so I had only ever done Arts NP looping. I thought it was exactly the same. But I see now that it's different on the basis that Buster NPs don't give NP gauge back
I am unable to do looping via the funny kscope method HOWEVER I can 3t farm with Aerial drive. All i do is pop morgan's skills 1 and 2 turn 1. Then I use the 2 and 3 skill from double vitch that same turn. I pop Morgan's NP and watch the wave die. Turn 2 I use the two Vitch's np batteries. Watch NP kill everything. Turn 3 I use Morgan's skills 1 and 2 once more due to the cool down reduction, before swapping into Reines to give Morgan the other 50% battery she needs and BOOM. Easy 3t.
@@VitchAndVorty Most likely referring to the extra time plugsuit adds to runs. A lot of people try to move away from using Habetrot, Arash, and plugsuit for farming, unless absolutely necessary, due to the swapping animation being long and causing additional load times. They're all great and effective farming strats, just generally slower than arts looping and buster farming with atlas. Also, most people have plugsuit maxed which means a lot of mystic code xp ends up going to waste.
NOOOOOO, I wanted to use black grail on my OG saber and turns out I'm missing 10% charge in the last turn! whyy I thought Oberon's 1 was a 30% !!! Not like this. Turn 1, 20% appened+30% saber +50% koyan = 100% Turn 2, 20%saber refund, + 30% saber + 50% koyan = 100% Turn 3, 20% saber refund + 70% oberon = 90% whyyyyy
You need to add Habetrot to the mix with "Battle of Camlann" CE. Habetrot's 3rd skill kills her and and on death CE proc fills the remaining 10 %. It does sacrifice additional CE slot in the comp, but it can be done if you absolutely want to.
@@maxpower8571 OMFG I TOTALLY FORGOT SHE KILLED HERSELF TOO, I was trying with arash but he needed a charge CE to pop his NP and give artoria overcharge but that still left me with 3% missing charge. OMG IT WORKS I just tried it! ty man!
Damage-wise, it's gonna be rough for a while. Mordred eventually gets a buff during the FGO Arcade collab and it gives her a pretty substantial damage increase, though.
I like the Arts looper specially with Zerker Musashi cause less clicks/buff time. And mine she is only NP1 (had no luck to NP2 as the 6th anniversary gave me a 3rd morgan instead on the musashi lucky sack). But when I tried Morgan NP3 with 2 Koyan and Waver with plug suit. You literally do not have to worry how many enemies are in each turn. Cause you know for a fact that you will get that 100% NP each turn. With arts loop, there is just not enough NP refund in certain nodes. Specially if in that turn there is only 1 or 2 enemies. Bottom line is, if you are able to. Get Koyan!.
@@Imbabator yes, i just used jarcher with BG vs berserkers with double castoria and plug oberon to test damage. And I had 120% extra charge to use turn 3, imagine if I used a starting charge CE. 50% from oberon's s2 30% from castoria's s1 and 40% from jarcher's s2 Even if she refunded 0% on wave 2 she would still have 20% extra charge.
@@Imbabator if you are using starting charge CE like kscope, double castoria and a 50% charger. You only need to refund 50% charge in total. Using 2004 mc there is no way you wont even against single enemies. If you use plug you don't even need to care about refund since you get all the charge you need from skills. Even quick can do that. Not that especial, buster only advantage really is the extra damage for 90++. By having 100% dmg mod and CD reduction for better buffs.
@@Madokaexe oh nice, I haven't leveled my talents enough yet but my plan is to kscope 1st then use koyan to generate stars so i can use miss crane switch turn2. However it probably makes me unable to np one turn 🤔
I'm sitting here coping with np4 cas cu until I get shafted on mothman. While I'm glad to have gotten koyan christ this year is so ass in terms of banners. Last year had a couple of "must have servants" this year has had like 5 and more coming. As much as I want arceuid the 7th year cycle I might just skip everything despite some great options coming.
The LB6 banners alone have like 2 must have servants in Oberon and Koyanskaya, and 3 nice to have servants in Melusine, Morgan, and Percival (all really good farming servants). This Summer has Summer Skadi (essential for Quick teams), Lady Avalon (nice addition to Arts teams), and Summer Ibuki (probably the best Arts looper). That's 8 servants in the span of like 3 months.
@@lordpaulphilippfernandez9904 Your getting your summer mixed up. Summer 2023 for NA has Kama and Majin. Summer Kama is decent for Arts farming, but the rest of the lineup is trash. Summer 2024 is the Big Three for NA.
@@lordpaulphilippfernandez9904 Dude that will be next year. This year summer is okita alter and summer Kama. And thanks God after lostbelt 6 banner for the whole year I don have any particular servant I want other than bazzett until summer next year
Day 3 of being banned from r/grandorder after being accused of using Alt Account. KScope farming hit pretty low, but at least it change the farming flavors... personally, I recommend upend, Kale with Atlas if MLB Kaledoscope is beyond you
I have artoria, merlin and koyan, the way i like to loop is since i don have a MLBkscope, i put the kscope on artoria use merlins charisma + hero creation on her and then i switch him for the second koyan, you only have to remember is that on the second turn you have to use artorias battery before koyan's its the only way i can buster loop
FGO's 7th Anniversary will come with a craft essence pick ticket. Kaleidoscope is on the list so you'll have a chance to grab one then.
If you're wondering about Copescope aka Great Marshal of Magic, it fills the same charge functions as Kscope. However, it has an attack stat of zero, so you're not doing yourself any favors in the damage department by using it.
I'm in a dilemna because I have exactly 4 KScopes so I don't know if getting a 5th to make for one MLB is better than have 2+ regular KScopes
@@arcaneghost244 regular kscopes is better, most premier buster farmers are 5 stars, so all you need is one copy + bond 6 and then you can unlock and max the append 2, having multiple kscopes even helps with multicore farming, like using arash for the first wave for example
@@Theone_who_asked Arash can use a 50% CE though. 30% battery and 20% Append.
@@arcaneghost24Depends really on what servants do you use for farming. Me, I prefer having multiple Kscopes since they are more useful than having only 1 MLB Kscope.
@@solitare4602 funnily enough that is EXACTLY how i use arash
I love that you can sum up Buster Looping as "Force feeding the carry with all the NP batteries possible"
Which precisely describes why it's so inferior to arts.
@@ahoyforsenchou7288can't hear you over the funny numbers
@@ahoyforsenchou7288 My problem is more that it takes a CE slot, you have to use one of 3 mystic code and potentially occupy an extra servant spot if you have to tab in one. This means diminished event/bond/MC exp farming capacities.
The only time it is decent is when you want to farm bond on the dps and don't need to occupy the extra slot via tab in (so only the 50%, not 30%). Then you do net more overall bond gain on your team than if you were to overflow an art looper.
Koyan herself is not really worth farming bond for, her bond CE is meh. When and if I need the boost, I'd rather give her a C star CE so that I benefit more from her 3rd skill. That said, even without using buster loop, she's already at 7 because there are places where she's useful. So I'm not even worried about her bond progression.
Finally, another 50np support to be sacrificed to The Chen Gong!
Just finished leveling my Gong to 120 to properly greet Broberon once he arrives.
Just imagine the damage numbers on turn 3 🎉
Edit: Don't have to imagine anymore, 700k+ neutral damage on T3. Now, if only I had an MLB black grail
> "Only a psychopath would farm with Spartacus"
> Be me with a level 90 Spartacus
120 or go home!
Rebel against conventions!
The only drawback to this video is not calling it Reloading, we're gonna miss some Special players pop up and tell you it's wrong!
Stfu with your terminology bs, no one cares, looping, reloading, its all the same.
You’re looping around the cooldown, and it’s a natural shorthand.
I don't get it, what is this about ?
@@velvet287 I guess It's because for Buster you aren't really looping cause you don't get charge back from Buster NPs, instead you give charge to your main Buster Farmer by "re-loading" their bar with Battery givers.
I'll just call it looping lmao cause too used to saying it.
If you want to be extremely specific you can say buster 3T system instead so no one will correct you if it's reloading or looping.
I could've used Cu Caster more if not for him stuck on NP1. Been blasting everything away with Arjuna Alter now, its insane.
cu caster works on np4?
Cu Caster is still pretty dang good at NP1 against Assassins if you got Black Grail and a Merlin (or Oberon) as a Plugsuit support, so I wouldn't count him out entirely.
Most people would have gotten Cu Caster to NP5 if they had been rolling on the Morgan banner that first came out.
@@i4npunz64I only got him up to np4
@@i4npunz64jokes on you, he never showed up once while I np2 Morgan
Only psychopaths use Spartacus
Me(who's a fan of Spartacus): *Gasp* How dare you talk about my hero.
I feel like a dumbass for not thinking to stagger the double Koyan buffs by a turn and using Reines as a third charger to get Junao to loop lmao thanks Fino
This comes right after I finished levelling up Morgan's batteries, thus allowing her to do a proper 3-turn setup with Koyanskaya and Waver.
This video couldn't have come out at a better time.
This video is presented so well and concise, the subject matter is divided effectively and efficient, and it is produced with a lot of quality and effort.
Great job on this buster looping 'guide', Fino! The best I've seen! 👍
Man... If only Karna has a 30%NP battery too...
RIP. 5% off from glory.
He can still 3 turn loop, any servant with a minimum of 10% np charge to themselves can loop with double oberon + koyanskaya.
1st turn = Kscope Np
2nd turn = Koyanskaya 50% np charge + Oberon np charge 50%
3rd turn = Oberon support 70% np charge + Oberon 20% np charge + karna 25% np charge. Thats 115% np charge all in all at 3rd turn
I already know the ins and outs of DKOS, but I won't pass up a chance to hear ol' Fino explain it to me again.
My 120 Gil is now suddenly a farmer, who would have thought? I'm currently using Caster Cu to do as many nodes as I can, he is really amazing with the double Vitch thing.
If we are talking about 5-slot he could already do that easily. Not clearing 3 waves himself but he could even without plug.
....I finally got her. After almost two weeks of farming bond points, I finally got her. It took me all 330 summons using all my SQs and tickets to reach the guaranteed summon threshold but I finally got her. I'm officially broke in terms of apples. He.. Hehe... Hehehe...🤪.
I shudder to think this would be my experience with the gacha system when Lady Avalon, Ruler Sakadi and Summer Ibuki comes around.
Gacha is a cruel harded mistress. She strings you along and never lets go once hooked
I did the same thing man😢
Ah yes plushie mistress wife 🙆
🦇🚗⚰️🛁🪦🏰🦇
"aH yeS PlUShiE mIStReSs wIFe"
She is everybody's wife, delusional plushie should eat bricks
Plushie Who?
@@xaint5298 no need to be toxic
@@xaint5298chill bro i just grailed mine to 120 not trying to gatekeep
I used to be skeptical of the Koyan system until I test drove it with Seibah and watched it click together.
Damn bratty buster fox how dare she be actually useful...
I stg thanks to this bitch I'm in lore hell because of how much investment buster farming requires if you don't have an MLB K-scope. Also the first character I invested in Summer BB doesn't even do that much damage :(
BB would be a good farmer if her second skill had a 6 turn CD. I’ve always said that her NP should have a CD reduction like Ozy’s. If it did she would be in a much better spot
Perhaps in the future they'll give her that, or some form of ramping damage on it at the very least if they want to be absolutely anal about her S2's CD. Arc seriously pissed in her pina colata just be existing - the funny vamp should've been ST or Quick AoE ...
Sadly did not get oberon could nobukatsu work for farming with nobu avenger.
Hey don't disrespect my boy Spartacus! Used Arash, Spartacus, Gil, Merlin to 3 turn the top tier farming nodes for years. Doesn't even need plug suit
We've reached childhood's end; the gates to Neverland are shut forevermore and entropy can never decrease globally. It's time to talk about how Cleopatra's second skill enables her to 'loop' with an MLB copescope, Vitch, and double Oberon.
in a couple weeks xnaya will drop the vid and youll lose ur mind
I'm a dummie so here I am
Space Ishtar can do the 50CE/KScope Double Koyan loop, but can also fit in the abnormal category and run Black Grail by using Castoria + Arts NP on turn 1, then switching to Buster for the other turns.
My level 120 np 4 BB has been waiting for this
can you use okita alter in a buster loop set up, pls give me instructions T_T
Yes, anyone with 30 battery can. Albeit you need oberon
I FINALLY GOT HER! THROUGH PITY!!! THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE HIT PITY IN THIS GAME
Just happy that even my np1 og seibah can do a seiso loop with just x2 fluffy tails.
Any way to use Koyan with Cheng? She can be useful, but she deserves it after all the bullshit she made me endure
She *literally* gives charge, so yes. Your better off with using 90% of the arts supports, but charge is charge.
She's not optimal for Chen Gong, but you can put pretty much any 50% charge support in your 4th party slot.
Who who didn’t think I would pull Koya or Oberon so I HAVE to use Sparticus 👁👄👁
Any servant with a minimum of 10% np charge can 3turn NP with double oberon + koyanskaya
Oh damn. I just came back to the game after 4 years, impulse rolled the current banner, and apparently the 5 star I got is the key to a new buster looping meta??
I think this is a sign from the universe. It really is Fate lol
well now i need someone to kindly explain to me if an level(whaterver) Aerial drive would be better on a buster farm than a level 100 MLB Sumo or (level whatever)MLB dark grail
It's nuts that Altria Saber doesn't even need the Atlas uniform because of how short her cooldowns are. Sasuga Seiba.
Emiya can loop with Black Grail thanks to having both Koyanskaya and Castoria. Oberon might work too depending on the node composition. The atlas mystic code is an option if you don't need the damage from 2 koyan, which is possible because he can crit a wave thanks to his 2nd skill, which can also come off cooldown on turn 3.
cant wait for cu caster vid i love cu caster
I'm looking forward to your Caster Cu video, since I have him at NP5.
I finally just got her on a single
The magic number for batteries of buster servants is 60% because of oberon. I wonder if they will ever do 60% 6turns cd batteries in the future
Didn't Tiamat technically have a 60 percent battery?
speaking of batteries bryn serker is just 10% away from glory lmao if her np battery per turn was 30% instead of 20% she would work with 2 koyan oberon
@@saltminer7711yeah 50 for her self and 10 for the whole party it’s great
@@saltminer7711 Yes. That's why she can oberon farm with bg.
I tried to roll for her. I got stheno'd, for the first time ever
I think I'm doing it wrong, or at least not to their full potential.
My set up is, super k-scope, Np1 Morgan, double Koyanskaya, and 50% charger in the back (Waver or Castoria)
Turn 1, Morgan NP with super k-scope
Turn 2, use Morgan's own battery, and Koyan-1 battery
Turn3, plug suit->, reserved 50%, Koyan-2 battery
The downside is, I have to use the plug-suit, and can't bring other mystic code.
Can’t you bring a 50% charge, use Morgan’s skills, both koyan batteries turn 2 and then Morgan’s skills again turn 3 plus a plug to a 50% charger? If you got a good 50% ce it’ll be a bit more damage
Using CE is also a donwside since arts can 6-slot.
You can also
Morgan has 50% charge, so you can clear turn 1 with habetrot and sacrifice.
Use morgan with a 50% charge CE to boost her damage and clear t2
Turn 3 she gets 50 from each koyan and use the buffs from any mc you want. 2004 is probably the best if you don't have arctic lv 10.
Before oberon it will deal more damage than plug waver and also has lower cost.
You don't need plugsuit for Morgan, you can just equip the atlas academy command code and use its third skill on Morgan on the third turn.
That should reset your batteries' cooldowns and let you get 50% battery without the need for an additional 50% support like Waver.
If you have a Superscope (or regular plus append), then you're simplest build would be:
1. Drop Koyan's Buster buffs on Morgan, then pop her NP.
2. Use Morgan's batteries to get her to 50%, then use one of the Koyan's batteries. Pop NP.
3. Use the second Koyan's battery, then use Atlas Academy on Morgan. Pop her batteries to get to 100, then NP.
There. No plugsuit, and you get to level up your (probably) not-maxed Atlas CE. The only drawback is no offensive buff on the CE, and weaker than say an Oberon build, but it makes the bestbuse of what you have. Spares you a slot for bond/CE, and it's slightly quicker.
I love gawain... But he is impossible to 3t loop
foogs and moth meta is real
So for Godjuna loops.. he needs the 20% append and a separate np gauge giver that isn’t Koyanskaya right? I have him just chillin at np3 so I gotta go ham with him
You can go with a 50% CE, 20% Append, and third charger Oberon for high end damage.
If you have a Super Scope, you can run a 50% split charger like Waver instead with no append.
not having a LB kscope is a real pain.
LB kscope is unneeded
Please cover Morgan next
Actually, nah, I tried double Koyan system, but double Castoria still give more QoLs to my team in the long run(I mean, the duration I take for that particular battle).
Maybe I am just too lazy to press the buttons. Castoria is something else...
Problem with Koyan is the amount of lores I fell like I need to use, lots need max 2nd append plus max skills for the battery cooldowns. Plus you need to pay more attention with the order of your skills and mystic codes are also more important. The amount of times I’ve failed because I used the wrong skill order or mystic code is crazy. Definitely a skill issue that I will resolve tho
Koyan works best with nodes with weird enemy numbers as you don't need to rely on Overkill refunds.
As other said, Koyan is better for weird composition nodes that will pop out more often from now on.
But if a node lets you go Arts Loop goes Brrrr, you can still have Castoria help you out in those.
I much prefer the Double Koyan system, no need to worry about number of enemies and refill calculations
Just press skills and red buttons, they also benefit a lot more from Oberon in general compared to Quick and Arts cause of his own Buster buff
@@100StepProgram Nah, dude, you just need to read the descriptions. I am sure your skill is fine.
even if buster doesnt rely on the number of enemies, its still the most expensive to pull off, even the "best farmer" melusine isnt as good with only double koyan, she needs oberon to actually do her thing as the best. While for arts you usually can do fine with just castoria, or plugsuit waver (whos free with the ticket) for some uneven waves. Not undermining buster, just saying for the newer players out there and also for those with limited SQ, that you have to prepare yourself to invest hard if you want to buster loop. Not to forget that arts is still the best in CQ because of castoria.
If you use a CE or/ plug with arts you also don't have to worry about the number of enemies. While also getting top tier loopers like habetrot/iyo for free.
Buster reloading
is bait
@@GS_CCCi been testing teams and so far loli vincy and summer janne do amazing tho i use full lb black grail and duble castoria miss crane and tamamo to get em to do enough damage to get throught neutral matchups
@@Bismarck9871 I feel like that is too much overkill, i have them both at np2 and using Foumes for 2k atk and 2004 is most times enough, with plug tamamo and a CE to compensate for lower np lv, i'm sure you wont need to use miss crane vs neutral.
@@bruh_bruh_the_bruhest_bruh Not remotely, way better than trying to use arts on 90+ nodes with 1 enemy waves where you need someone else besides DPS + double Castoria only. Oberon damage is just that cracked too and every account wants Oberon because he isn't useful in only buster farming.
Farming never been this easy before. I can buldoze through everything with my NP2 Morgan with this setup. Double Castoria is great, but since I don't have any top universal loopers like Space Ishtar or Summer Musashi, I can't loop on every stages cause of lack of loopers in some class. But as a Buster Berserker, Morgan can deal huge damages to every class except Foreigners. A mix class stages like ember farming isn't a problem anymore too. Extra personal bonus, I can bond up with Morgan easily too as I can bring her mostly everywhere lol.
could you explain more? i have an np1 morgan and koyan so im looking to farm with her, i have kscope for morgan too if needed
@@RyoshuLimbus You don't necessarily need Kscope if you can get Oberon and Morgan's App Batt to Lv 10, as you can suffice with a 50% CE if you use her S1 Wave 1, both Koyan's Batteries Wave 2, then all of Oberon's Batteries on her Wave 3. Morgan Starts with 50 + 20% Charge, her S1 gives 30% NP and has a 6 CD that will be off CD by Wave 3 if used Wave 1, Koyans provides 100% NP and 4 turns worth of CD reduction, and Oberon provides the last 70% NP with Morgans now newly refreshed S1.
If you only got NP1 Morgan, Koyan, and a Waver, however, you're going to run into some damage problems that are ultimately tolerable if you stick to Lv 90 or lower nodes. Use her S1 Turn 1 with the Kscope, fully charge her with the Koyans Wave 2, plug in Waver, and you should have 100% total NP charge by Wave 3 between Morgan's and his Batteries. Again, lowish damage, but she's great in stuff outside of farming and she is killer at killing Man Attribute enemies, so it balances out to your favor more often than not.
@@anonjohn9760 what about morgan s2? isn´t that 20% np? why would she need oberon*? (edited cuz I misunderstood)
@@SilentBlackwing You're right - she _doesn't_ need Oberon to loop with her. So long as you're fine with either sticking to Atlas with a MLB Kscope (or Equiv amt of Charge) for no swap-tri loops, or have her App Batt Maxed and use your best 50% CE for plugsuit loops with another 50% Charger (Like Welfare Waver, to name an easily acquired example), Oberon is entirely unnecessary for her to do three NPs in a row. Same goes for other Buster Servants with 50% Total charge on a collective Max CD of 6 or less.
It's just that Oberon is pretty much the _best_ Plugsuit option for virtually every Servant, outside of certain niche Arts Supports for Arts and Hybrid Units in general. If you want Morgan to deal as much damage as possible and have a chance to compete with the other Buster Judggernaughts, mof boi is a must.
"Koyanskaya System for Dummies"
ok ngl that hurt but then I thought about it and yes I AM A DUMMY LOL🤣
My NP5 100 Ereshkigal is ready. I just need to get Koyan up and running.
Tamamo had enough
I dont get it.
Help!!! my teams are very limited idk what to do, I just got koyanskaya and arts tamamo as premium supports, but i dont have Mlb scope
hey is it possible to farm buster with support koyanskya ? I have waver but don't have merlin and koyanskya
You cant. Unless you have kscope
@@Cloud-xd3ed I have 4 kscope
Friendly reminder not to put up your Koyan unless Skill 1 is level 10. Congrats n all but wait until at least the first skill is maxed to put her up
I got her in the last day phew... a bit worried during the 1st day cause I got nothing in 600sq but managed to pull her after 120sq on the last day
Important to note, Because the most minmax buster requrements are append at lv 10 and 50% charge CE on a 30% battery that has 6 turns CD, ever since the release of oberon, almost every event has a 50% battery Free CE, so all of your 6 turns ñr less 30% chargers must have their append lored if you want to do this, but keep in mind, the second an event doesn't have a 50% CE buster tends to fall apart, Fairie Knight Cup had non man, high hp, high magic resistance nodes and the drop CE had no charge, and to top ot all off the last node was a 3/3/1 with a 1M kintoki at the end and it was archers, basically it was a Melusine Tailored node, you could also clear it with britomart, but basically everyone else was fucked
oh no, using only 5 CE's instead of 6, what ever will we do by not having exactly perfect peak min maxed farming. aaaaaa.
But i’m curious, could you farm that node with MLB BG / Np1 Melusine ? Double Vitch&oberon ?
I wanted it but I randomly got Jack the Ripper instead
Here’s an issue I only have 1 kscope copy so getting another isn’t gonna do much for me but I only need one more black grail to mlb so I think I’m gonna have to take that on the ticket
I grailed my Spartacus and roided him up in the dark days before I had Castoria.
I did like two pulls and got koyanskaya then I tried to do my gssr and got castoria🤔
I am burned out after LB6 banner marathon. Are there necessary Servants to roll for after Oberon for the rest of the year.
I am curious as a KP lover on what you need to do to Buster Loop with KP
Koyan finally gave my mistake account access to reliable farming. No Castoria and the farmer for a while was Zerklot with double Skadi…. And I’d sometimes find my team dead
Well, now you can habetrot so you also got a reliable way to arts farm.
Well, at least you had access to the double Skadi system. I was forced to use Arash, Paracelsus and Waver for years to compensate for the lack of Skadi and Castoria on my account.
Now that I have Castoria and Koyanskaya I can breathe but I'm frustrated that I still can't exploit the full potential of my grailed Edmond and Voyager (and that's why Summer Skadi is my next target).
wowowoow
if only cycle paths use Spartacus to farm then call me the freakin tour de france baybee
Great video. But also the thumbnail is Perfection.
5 multis and I got him !!! AA + Koyanskaya + Oberon ready to obliterate 90+ nodes. :)
double koyans actually pretty solid this day
Blue Saber was my only ssr for the longest time, and back then everyone said she was one of the worst servants. Just look at her now.
Who? Do you mean OG Saber?
@@thewhyzer Yes. Do you know any other blue sabers?
@@Destiny87 Lan Ling, Hokusai, Diarmuid, possibly others that aren't in my Chaldea.
Blue Umu
Just got Koyanskaya and Oberon, Melusi works surprisingly well for looping with a black grail with her 100% np buff. Use her 30% battery with oberon’s 20% battery and you get an a 50% charge, couple that with either Oberon or Kaya’s 50%. I’m lucky enough to have waver and Skadi, though I like running waver in this group, then just swapping out kaya when she’s dry. The black grail and buffs make her deal so much damadge that class affinity doesn’t matter as much
OG Saber is my favorite since she can do it with 2 koyanskaya and any mystic code, so i can level mystic code whlie farming doors or any other nodes where hp not too high
I'm glad I decided to roll for Morgan since I was going to go for Koyanskaya anyway. I now have two ways to turn farming into Trace On, Brain Off.
Emiya loop sounded great but in your vid you getting 120% refund while I, even with all the buffs early am only getting 94% at most.
Is there some other NP Gain effect on him from somewhere?
Might be the Mystic Code. Fragment of 2004 can smooth out your arts turn if you're falling short.
/Mx castoria is probably fairly happy. Ever since I got her on her first banner she has been in 98/99% of all my battles. She most likely enjoys the break....
Too hard, I'll continue living a peaceful life with XCC
I was thinking he was going to acknowledge Cu as the future of the Vitch system, but mayhap he will when the time comes
Main and Alternate Account both have Morgan and Koyan so both are OK with doing buster looping... though Main account can do all three since it has Skadi and Castoria, but slightly struggles to figure out who to use for Quick farming.
I have Vitch Np2 and I still haven't looped once lol
Are any current NA AOE Servants besides Caster Cu able to Black Grail buster loop?
Melusine can.
Gotta thank you for this video. I started playing around Castoria so I had only ever done Arts NP looping. I thought it was exactly the same. But I see now that it's different on the basis that Buster NPs don't give NP gauge back
Farming with Gilgamesh was fun now I’m waiting for Oberon to reach higher numbers
I am unable to do looping via the funny kscope method HOWEVER I can 3t farm with Aerial drive. All i do is pop morgan's skills 1 and 2 turn 1. Then I use the 2 and 3 skill from double vitch that same turn. I pop Morgan's NP and watch the wave die. Turn 2 I use the two Vitch's np batteries. Watch NP kill everything. Turn 3 I use Morgan's skills 1 and 2 once more due to the cool down reduction, before swapping into Reines to give Morgan the other 50% battery she needs and BOOM. Easy 3t.
Plugsuit 🤮
(jk I am poor too)
Good ol' plugsuit saving
F2P
@@codrin222 Are you disgusted by its total exp? Then, I agree. Otherwise, I don't know about the 'bleech' emoji.
@@VitchAndVorty Most likely referring to the extra time plugsuit adds to runs. A lot of people try to move away from using Habetrot, Arash, and plugsuit for farming, unless absolutely necessary, due to the swapping animation being long and causing additional load times. They're all great and effective farming strats, just generally slower than arts looping and buster farming with atlas. Also, most people have plugsuit maxed which means a lot of mystic code xp ends up going to waste.
NOOOOOO, I wanted to use black grail on my OG saber and turns out I'm missing 10% charge in the last turn! whyy I thought Oberon's 1 was a 30% !!! Not like this.
Turn 1, 20% appened+30% saber +50% koyan = 100%
Turn 2, 20%saber refund, + 30% saber + 50% koyan = 100%
Turn 3, 20% saber refund + 70% oberon = 90% whyyyyy
You need to add Habetrot to the mix with "Battle of Camlann" CE. Habetrot's 3rd skill kills her and and on death CE proc fills the remaining 10 %.
It does sacrifice additional CE slot in the comp, but it can be done if you absolutely want to.
@@maxpower8571 OMFG I TOTALLY FORGOT SHE KILLED HERSELF TOO, I was trying with arash but he needed a charge CE to pop his NP and give artoria overcharge but that still left me with 3% missing charge.
OMG IT WORKS I just tried it! ty man!
Buster loop
Buster. Loop.
>having to use charge CEs
>having to use Black Grail
>having to use Oberon and/or Plug
It's just so bad compared to arts lol
Buster reload does sound better tho
This was a fantastic video thanks so much!
Since Archtype release i always use her with double koyans 😂,man her 100% np charge really helpfull
You really need to invest in her and get her NP levels high but once you do, she can farm anything.
if i have a np1 mordred can i still farm?
Damage-wise, it's gonna be rough for a while. Mordred eventually gets a buff during the FGO Arcade collab and it gives her a pretty substantial damage increase, though.
I like the Arts looper specially with Zerker Musashi cause less clicks/buff time. And mine she is only NP1 (had no luck to NP2 as the 6th anniversary gave me a 3rd morgan instead on the musashi lucky sack).
But when I tried Morgan NP3 with 2 Koyan and Waver with plug suit.
You literally do not have to worry how many enemies are in each turn. Cause you know for a fact that you will get that 100% NP each turn.
With arts loop, there is just not enough NP refund in certain nodes. Specially if in that turn there is only 1 or 2 enemies.
Bottom line is, if you are able to. Get Koyan!.
That is mostly a musashi issue, with a looper with charge skills and CE you also dont need to care about refund with arts.
@@GS_CCCno
@@Imbabator yes, i just used jarcher with BG vs berserkers with double castoria and plug oberon to test damage.
And I had 120% extra charge to use turn 3, imagine if I used a starting charge CE.
50% from oberon's s2 30% from castoria's s1 and 40% from jarcher's s2
Even if she refunded 0% on wave 2 she would still have 20% extra charge.
@@Imbabator if you are using starting charge CE like kscope, double castoria and a 50% charger. You only need to refund 50% charge in total. Using 2004 mc there is no way you wont even against single enemies.
If you use plug you don't even need to care about refund since you get all the charge you need from skills.
Even quick can do that. Not that especial, buster only advantage really is the extra damage for 90++. By having 100% dmg mod and CD reduction for better buffs.
Meanwhile me using way to much effort to try and loop with raikou ;-;
I use Arash with kaleido turn 1, Raikou kaleido full append turn 2 and Raikou with full koyan charge turn 3, works really well
@@Madokaexe oh nice, I haven't leveled my talents enough yet but my plan is to kscope 1st then use koyan to generate stars so i can use miss crane switch turn2. However it probably makes me unable to np one turn 🤔
@@The_Real_Paradox don't use arash with a CE, habetrot can do the same equiping a bond bonus CE.
@@GS_CCC good idea however I'm not nearly far enough in the story yet 😔
@@The_Real_Paradox if you are still doing the story you wont really be farming a lot for it to matter that much.
Oh B.B. if only she had an NP Buff I’d consider using her maxed Fou NP5 Level 120 self over NP1 Arjuna alter.
The Np4 Eresh Finally payed off. LETS GOOO
I'm sitting here coping with np4 cas cu until I get shafted on mothman. While I'm glad to have gotten koyan christ this year is so ass in terms of banners. Last year had a couple of "must have servants" this year has had like 5 and more coming. As much as I want arceuid the 7th year cycle I might just skip everything despite some great options coming.
The LB6 banners alone have like 2 must have servants in Oberon and Koyanskaya, and 3 nice to have servants in Melusine, Morgan, and Percival (all really good farming servants). This Summer has Summer Skadi (essential for Quick teams), Lady Avalon (nice addition to Arts teams), and Summer Ibuki (probably the best Arts looper).
That's 8 servants in the span of like 3 months.
@@lordpaulphilippfernandez9904 Your getting your summer mixed up. Summer 2023 for NA has Kama and Majin. Summer Kama is decent for Arts farming, but the rest of the lineup is trash.
Summer 2024 is the Big Three for NA.
@@lordpaulphilippfernandez9904 Dude that will be next year. This year summer is okita alter and summer Kama. And thanks God after lostbelt 6 banner for the whole year I don have any particular servant I want other than bazzett until summer next year
When did arts teams became the unga bunga comp? What with all this micromanagements?😭😭😭
tamamo complicating things and artoria going unga bunga. it's nothing new really.
Day 3 of being banned from r/grandorder after being accused of using Alt Account.
KScope farming hit pretty low, but at least it change the farming flavors... personally, I recommend upend, Kale with Atlas if MLB Kaledoscope is beyond you
I have artoria, merlin and koyan, the way i like to loop is since i don have a MLBkscope, i put the kscope on artoria use merlins charisma + hero creation on her and then i switch him for the second koyan, you only have to remember is that on the second turn you have to use artorias battery before koyan's its the only way i can buster loop
Alternatively you can unlock and max Artoria's battery append for the same result for complete mystic code freedom.
Accidently got her NP5 when trying to get Caenis 😢
wtf s wrong with you u should be happy bro . half of us are dying with no koyan
Opposite for me, got Caenis NP5 trying to get Koyan
@@のこジャンプtroll
I mean, hey, at least you got a kino Assassin farmer now.
Hey, now you can use her as a looper too 😂
Is Oberon really essential for Buster looping? Can I survive with just Koyonskaya?
If you have high np lvl morgan then sure, 2 koyan is enough
@@mentosdesu6888 when is the next Oberon banner?
@@phelopatirabdel-malak554Near the end of 2024. Just find another substitute until then, either Castoria or Waver.