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Good video. There is only one thing I would add. I would never pressurize anything instantly like he did. To many variables. Hook it up with the quarter turn valve off then hook up the bottle. now slowly open the valve. It will carbonate just as good without a possible blowup. Even at 15 psi, that is Pound Per Square inch, is a little dangerous. He is correct. Good carbonation is temperature and pressure. I worked on commercial carbonators in my youth.
I use a 5 lb tank to refill my smaller gas cylinders at home. $34 USD for the braided stainless hose and fittings and $79 USD for a NEW powder coated aluminum 5 lb cylinder. No regulator required. $16 USD to fill the 5 lb tank. For an additional $14 USD I can get a hose and fitting to hook the 5 lb tank directly to my AARKE soda machine. Just another option to your system. Thanks for the video. New kitchen looks great!
Interesing system you have going! Yoou'll see in coming videos that we like to carbonate various things aside from water, so using the soda bottles works best for us. Glad you enjoyed the video, and the new kitchen! I like the Seinfeld reference too.
I just bought an Aarke & would love more info on how you hooked it up to your 5lb tank and how you hide it please! I also like the idea of refilling the cylinders but I’m a little afraid of doing it.😬
@@melanie.c25 I don't hook my 5# tank directly to my Aarke. I refill the cylinders. There are videos on UA-cam that show in better detail than I can explain here. You need the tank. The hose setup from amazon. And a scale to weigh the small tank as you fill it. It's pretty safe. The tanks are rated for about twice the normal pressure, so if you fill it correctly, you have a huge safety range. I have filled 4 tanks and expect to get another tank and a half out of that 5# tank. That's under $3 per tank. The 10# tank would save even more as it is only a few $$ more to fill 10# than it is 5#. But the 10# is awkward to handle when filling the smaller tanks. Also, the hose set up has great instructions included. I can't post a link on youtube but this is the actual product: "FIDEURSUS CGA320 G1/2 CO2 Cylinder Refill Adapter Hose CO2 Refill Adapter Fill Station Connector Kit for Soda Filling for Tank Bottle (CGA320 to TR21-4, 36inch Hose, Dual Valve with Gauge)". This company also sells the direct hookup kit, although you will have to modify your Aarke body or cut a hole in your countertop to use the direct hookup.
I never would have even thought to try and refill them, so very glad for this comment!! I need a machine my kids can use but haven't invested in it because of cartridge price. Being able to refill them at home instead of spending $100 or so for a pack of CO2 tanks is genius 😅
Thanks for doing this video. I bought parts to make this system and have been enjoying it for about the last year. Really helps to cut down on soda pop
Thank you for your video. I use a sodastream on a regular basis and have a hard time getting the refill cartridges delivered on time. I was looking at refilling them myself until your video came up. This is a much cheaper alternative and as you mentioned, by the time you need to refill, this unit pays for itself. Each refill is $60 for a single cartridge. To refill a 5 galon unit where I live is $20!!! This will save me so much money in the long run. Thank you again!
Glad this helped you save $ and enjoy great sparkling water! Check out our video on other things you can carbonate with this setup: ua-cam.com/video/scINmqvz0qU/v-deo.htmlsi=gmjz2rmJD0HF9B0r
WOW!!! Thanks Rob for a great audio/video explaining how to set up/use the 5 pound CO2 tank to home make sparkling water. I need to set up my tank at home also!
I have a 20lb tank hooked up to one of our soda streams in the kitchen. My son comes and siphons from the tank to fill his 60l tank for his soda stream. Great video!
Omg thank you SO MUCH for making this video! I almost bought a countertop style carbonator but in researching it I found your video and THIS is exactly what I was really looking for!!! Simple, easy, and allows me to create creative drinks! Thank you again
@@NadiaandRob Can I message you in private sir? Im so curious how to make carbonated water.. is that only purified water and pressured by CO2 tank and become Carbonated water?
@@archiegarcia3550 yes it’s just water and the co2 tank to pressurize and add co2. We just use plain tap water, but you can filter or use purified water if you wish. Hope that helps.
So glad I found your video!!! I hate those pokey flimsy overpriced machines that purport to deliver carbonation. Nothing but a pack of lies, stealing your money, and delivering Chinese trash. I'm sick of being fleeced for $60 a tiny tank that needs a subscription mailing service to restock. Absolute rubbish - this whole line of thinking. I like robust solutions to problems. Everything in my house is a tank that lasts forever and costs little to refill. This is the root solution I was looking for. I am very pleased to have found this gold nugget of info and thank you profoundly. You have lifted all my frustration and shown me the light, ha ha! This is truly the way to go. Since you gave me this gold nugget, let me give you one back: 1. Commercial sodas, seltzers are very bad for you. The caffeine blocks vitamins/minerals and gives you adrenal damage, the dyes and preservatives damage your nerves, the sugar gives you metabolic disease, fatty liver, heart disease, Dementia, etc, the salt gives you hypertension, hardens arteries, etc. The phosphoric acid that gives tartness, is also a preservative and gives you osteoporosis. Charming stuff, isn't it? No wonder, Americans who are hooked on sodas are dying like flies. 2. Home made soda however, is the best drink you can have. CO2 dilates blood vessels and activates the CCO enzyme inside the cell mitochondria (energy furnace) so that more oxygen is absorbed. The better your cell respiration (breathing of oxygen) the longer you will live, entirely disease free. Its the nitric oxide that is killing us and giving us cancer, etc. CO2, antioxidants, Methylene Blue, a small amount of coffee daily is the key to robust health. This is why drinking carbonated water is very, very good for us for oxygenation, and also for clearing bowels, constipation, digestion, hydration, etc. Drink lots! 3. Use filtered water like a Berkey that has white filters for arsenic and fluoride removal + the carbon filters too. Costs $200-$300, is portable, robust, needs a cheap filter change occasionally, and gives you the best bang for the buck. Reverse Osmosis wastes water and strips it of minerals. Berkey is the best choice, buy second hand even cheaper on FB Marketplace or Craigslist locally.
I've been using a setup like this for some years. I usually flavor my water with lemon or orange extract to a 1% solution (10 ml/liter) and typically use 2 liter soda bottles. I'm in the US and used to get my cylinder refilled at a fire extinguisher firm. Lately, all the places that I've gone to (4 or 5) won't refill the cylinder. What they will do is an exchange. The one disadvantage of this is that you don't get to keep your nice pristine tank. There are several advantages. First you pick up the exchange and leave and so you don't drop off your tank and come back later (sometimes much later) after refill. Second, you don't have to worry about the periodic hydro test every five years (in the US, Canada also from what I've read) as your exchange will have been properly inspected.
In germany we have deposit on these standard sodastream co2 tanks. You buy it once for about 25 € and when it’s empty you go to any store where you can exchange it for a full tank for just 6 €
I use the same system but added a rigid plastic tube (straw) to the bottle adaptor that just reaches the bottom of the bottle, then put a diffuser stone on that. The result is thousands of tiny bubbles of CO2 bubbling up through the water. I set my regulator to 40 psi, start the flow just like here and walk away for a minute or two, one shake just to be sure and add flavoring!
Wow....I really enjoyed watching this video...The back drop was clean and friendly; Robs decorum, and voice was very nirvana....Thank you for the tutorial..
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A very interesting video. Just wondering whether it would be possible if you already have a Sodastream to fix it to the counter top and run the hose from where the small cylinder connects through the counter top into the cupboard below and have the big tank stored in there and connected. That way you can use the 5lb tank rather than having to keep buying the small refills, but keep the convenience of the easy to use Sodastream system.
Glad you enjoyed the video! There are definitely adaptors to attach a tank to a sodastream, and I assume you could run the hose up from the cupboard. Should be easy to accomplish, and will definitely save you $$$ on refills! If you have space in the cupboard, go for a 10lb tank, since it costs about the same to refill, and it means fewer trips to the gass supplier. Have fun!
Hi Rob, thanks very much for this video!! I was tired of picking up the many bottles of water that we drink. I ended up buying the kit and found your video very clear and easy to follow. So simple and saving money! We appreciate all of your videos and can't wait to see more of them. Thank you and keep up the great work.
Bought this kit for my partner for Christmas and omg he's like a kid in a candy store! He makes every and any type of drink fizzy. Thank you for the informative video! Do you happen to have any recommendations for a setup to add it to a coffee/tea bar?
So glad you're enjoying your carbonation setup. The simplest way to add this to a coffee bar would be to make space under the bar for the CO2 tank, and bring the hose up through a custom hole in the bar. That way you could tuck it neatly away, and just pull out the hose when you need it. There are ways to put a countertop tap for carbonated water on your bar, but that's way beyond my expertise. Hope that helps!
Look for kegerator kits. You can fill a 5 gallon keg and carbonate it then have it on demand at a tap. I can easily find used kegs for 15 usd where I live on market. Place
Thanks. I ordered one through your link. Been addicted to Topo Chico… which is expensive for what it is… meanwhile I am blessed with delicious well water. I like that I can really crank up the fizz… if I’m gonna have bubbly water… I want lotsa bubbles! Gonna buy a bottle capper…. So I can still use my glass bottles.
Would putting a piece of tube on the carbonating cap spigot and about three quarters of the way down the bottle have the same effect as shaking the bottle.
A (5) gallon Co2 tank should carbonate 50 to 80 gallons of liquid depending on how bubbly you like your drinks. In my area its $30 at Airgas to refill a (5) gallon tank.
Is it possible to buy an adapter that runs from a ball connector to a TR21-4 fitting? I'd like to have the dual option of carbonating directly to a soda bottle and connecting to my Sodastream machine.
I'm sure something like that is available. I've seen kits for connecting to a Sodastream... and you may have to use a Y-joint to connec t the two hoses.
Very helpful video. Thanks so much for the insight. Will be in touch about trying to track down one of these systems and what other apparatus we can charge with CO2. Cheers!
I've built a similar system seven years ago using a 20 lb tank. Cost $40 to fill and has lasted us for a few years before refilling. We usually carbonate a 2 liter coke bottle (8 cups) and that serves the whole family at dinner time.
@@NadiaandRob Same system here for two of us. One 2 liter bottle per day on average. The 20 # tank will last until the tank pressure won't maintain desired infusion pressure, Loooooong time. !!!!!
Thank you for the info, how many seconds or minutes do you leave it puming co2 under 60 or 50PSI? What do you mean when you said leave until "pop"? I tried it today, I don't see much bubbles, 😅 Should I leave the pressure open during my shaking? Would the bottle explode if over filling it under 60psi pressure??
Hi. Yes, connect the bottle to the CO2 at 60 PSI... then give it a good shake to allow the gas to mix with the water. 30-60 seconds or more if you wish..... with the pressure on. The for extra bubbles (I like really strong bubbles) disconnect the CO2 hose, open the cap and squeeze out all air in the bottle. Then reconnect the hose and shake again. That will definitely give you great carbonation... strong bubbles. Enjoy!
@NadiaandRob so this around 120 seconds of carbonation under pressure of 60psi, without fearing the bottle gets poped, because they can with stand pressure 60 psi easily, bottle will feel hard, still no worry.
Remember, these "Coke" 2 liter bottles are built to withstand cold temperatures, hot temperatures, the stress of multiple transportation, etc. 60 psi is OK; So,...to clarify, fill up the bottle with your drinking water, up to the bottle curve ( If you boil it -then let it cool- first, then refrigerate to cold, slushy/icy, then, when connecting your unit, first squeeze out the air in the top curve, then attach-while squeezing- the CO2 cap, then open your valve which will expand the squeezed part, tighten the CO2 cap, then SHAKE It- I do for at least a minute, maybe more. When done, close your valve, and either leave the CO2 cap on to seal it, or swap with the regular cap ( on Tight). and re -refrigerate until usage time. No more shaking, and pour gently, unless you want to release all that nice CO2 into the outside air!... The above mentioned boiling/cooling/no air space routines are in order to allow the water to absorb the maximum amount of CO2 infusion. The more shaking, the more infusion
is there any big difference when applying different pressure like 30 or 40 psi, instead of 50 or 60 psi? AFAIK for beer keg they used to only put 15 psi.
I really like a lot of carbonation in my sparkling water, so I tend to set the higher pressure. However, I haven't tested side by side with lower pressures. I would assume that the higher pressure may speed up the carbonation process, but in the end you reach around the same level of CO2 absorbed. I also know that beer is carbonated at a much lower level, since you don't want it to pour with too much head. Hope that answers your question.
Greetings Thank you for the link I'm sold. Is there a special bundle to look for when ordering? Or do we have to buy everything à la carte? And if so is there a parts list? Great lesson thank you
here are links: www.ontariobeerkegs.com/home-carb-sys.html www.kegoutlet.com/sp202-taprite-soda-carbonating-kit-taprite-regulator-5-lb-co2-tank.html www.kegoutlet.com/sparkling-water-maker-gooseneck-growler-faucet.html Enjoy!
Ordered from the US site, can't wait to get it. Had a bad experience with soda stream support and was looking to have a replacement, So excited thank you!
Arrived today, got my cylinder filled at a local shop called Aegis. Mine came pre assembled, and had a slight leak in one fitting but was likely just knocked loose in shipping and easy to fix. Already loving it, way better than soda stream by far. Ordered a few more carbonation caps from Amazon to have spairs. Again thank you for this video!
@@StealthJackson12B I used the link in the description, the one labeled US for the keg outlet site, you can also Google keg outlet and search Soda Carbonating Kit. I've used it for months now and love it, only filled the tank once and it was because had a leak and forgot to close it right lol the second refill has lasted 3+months, and doesn't even look like we've used anything going off the gauge
Nice to see someone into carbonation as much as me. I can't do no 2 liter bottle because as soon as you open it and put it in the fridge it will never be the same so I buy the cans but im looking for a better way to re carbonate my drinks
If you want to place the bottle back in the fridge right after carbonation, can you put the original plastic cap back on or it needs to be the carbonation cap?
Hi. You can actually do either one. I like to maintain maximum carbonation, so I keep the carbonation cap on the bottle, and I re-pressurize before putting it back in the fridge. But I’m admittedly a carbonation nut! You can certainly simply cap with a regular cap… and it will keep it sparkling. Hope that helps!
There’s really not much to clean! The co2 hose and filler cap don’t get dirty, as they are only touching gas. I wash the bottles and carbonation caps with regular soap.. that’s it!
No... I don't believe the threads match... and very dangerous if you were to drop the bottle! Check this video for an alternative: ua-cam.com/video/zGsfovL9dfo/v-deo.htmlsi=BzfFNRwRvo-gxj6g
Is there any concern about mechanical oils being present in the canister (when purchased) or in the CO2 gas (when filling the canister) which could end up being injected into your beverages?
Not at all. I bought the canister from a brewer supply and the co2 is from a beverage supplier. Don’t buy from a welding supplier as they sometimes use lower grade co2
Can you do a parts breakdown? perhaps a list in video description? I can find a kit in Greece and Amazon is my only choice but still have to find individual parts,
Here's the parts breakdown from the place we bought the kit: 1 Taprite High Performance Primary Dual Gauge Regulator (Check Valve with No Switch) 1 MFL Threaded Gas Ball Lock Disconnect with Stainless Steel Swivel Nut 4' of Ultraflex Gas Tubing 1 Plastic Carbonation Cap 2 Stainless Steel Hose Clamps Aluminum CO2 Tank (we got a 5lb tank) Hope that helps!
As far as I know they don't match the threads. Also glass could be very dangerous. Try this solution: ua-cam.com/video/zGsfovL9dfo/v-deo.htmlsi=bh6PVkCFJJdefj-F
No. The threads don’t match…. And too dangerous if the bottle slipped out of your hand! Check out our recent video ua-cam.com/video/zGsfovL9dfo/v-deo.htmlsi=8cbgLg3nkYbPSgwH for a better solution.
I hope you have an affiliate link there because I definitely just got this set up at home! Tyty, was torn between trying to get a whole kegerator set up for seltzer vs a countertop model like a sodastream or higher end stuff, and this was the perfect entry point while we figure out what we want next!
Hi James, We use the 2 liter coke (or any soda) bottles. They have a deeply indented bottom that doesn't pop out when pressurized. The 1 liter size of some brands work as well, but some bulge out and won's stand. Look for brands that have deep indents on the bottom. Hope that helps.
Excellent educational video. Can you use a Pellegrino glass bottle to make carbonated water? Is there any issue with using a glass bottle beside it can break? The bottle is 34oz. which is perfect for a person to consume.
I believe the thread on the peregrine bottle doesn't match the carbonation cap. I'd also be very nervous about pressurizing a glass container! Stay tuned for a new unique solution coming soon!
Thank you so much for this! I've been thinking about eliminating all the plastic bottles of carbonated water I buy even though I recycle them. I have one question - when you are shutting down after carbonating your water, you turned off the valve on the top of the tank. I didn't see you turn off the valve on the hose attached to the regulator - do you recommend that? Thank you!
Glad you enjoyed…. Here’s to eliminating plastic bottles! Once you’ve turned off the main valve on the tank there’s no need to turn off the valve on the hose. Nothing’s coming out of the cylinder so all’s good.
We don't recommend using glass bottles, as there is a risk of them shattering. Also, I dont believe the threads match the carbonation caps. If you want to avoid using plastic bottles, stay tuned here.... a new very cool solution is coming soon!
Is far as I know they don't match the threads. Also glass could be very dangerous. Try this solution: ua-cam.com/video/zGsfovL9dfo/v-deo.htmlsi=bh6PVkCFJJdefj-F
Glad you enjoyed the video. We keep the tank in a cupboard... room temp. We keep the water to carbonate in the fridge.... the colder the water is, the more CO2 it will absorb, so it gets more bubbly.
I've heard some people mention this as an issue. I've never had a problem with it, but if you wish you can shake the bottle while upright. It does the same thing.
We haven’t experienced any safety issues. The soda bottles are extremely durable and they have never caused any problems. One viewer commented that you should be careful to prevent the CO2 cylinder from falling and breaking the valve off the top. That seems sensible.
I was spending way too much money buying carbonated water. Thanks to your video and detailed explanation, I have now been doing my own carbonation with the instructions you provided and I've save so much money. It has been now 2 months and I'm still on the 1st tank. I drink at least 2 1 quart bottle per day. Thank you very much for making this informative and instuctive video.
We’ve heard various opinions on that. I haven’t heard anything definitive. The place we get co2 from supplies dry ice and gasses for the beverage industry so it’s food grade. If you find a supplier of welding gasses just ask them if their co2 is suitable
Awesome and really helpful video. One question, how do you know when to stop inserting CO2 in the bottle/liquid? Is there any indication showing that enough carbonation has occurred or enough gas has entered the liquid?
Glad you found this helpful! You can hear the CO2 going through the hose and into the bottle, especially as you give it a shake. Once that sound slows, you've added enough CO2. With time, you get a feel for how much carbonation you like for your palette. Enjoy!
Can you carbonate non-clear fluids using this method? Meaning, can you carbonate juice with pulp in it or other solids? Some videos suggested carbonating only clear fluids...
The problem with carbonation liquids with pulp or solids in them is they tend to really foam up when you open them. You can do it, but you have to open them slowly to let the foam die down.
was looking for sparkling water machine for last 3 years but never bought one because of negative reviews. saw this video and ordered everything right away. was well worth the wait. thanks so much
There is actually a fourth factor that determines the amount of carbonation you get. Although it's related to one of the three factors you mentioned, I believe it deserves a mention on its own. That fourth factor is the size of the bubbles you create as you carbonate. Smaller bubbles, because of the higher surface-to-volume ratio, will more effectively carbonate the liquid as they pass through it. I started with a setup identical to yours and sourced from the same place, and I use the techniques identical to what you've shown in every respect. After a time, though, I switched to a small dropper hose that attaches to the inside of the carbonation cap. That hose drops down into the bottle and I terminate it with a small stainless steel bubbler that works exactly like an airstone in an aquarium. It makes incredibly fine bubbles that are far less than a millimetre in diameter that, I believe, allow for more of the CO2 to diffuse into the water as they percolate up through the liquid. In summary, thanks for the excellent primer. I wish I had come across something like this before I spent hours researching all this stuff on my own. Cheers!
Thank you so much for this video! I am super curious what your feelings are on using glass? I'm really starting to mitigate my plastic intake as more research comes out, especially using the same plastic over and over as it breaks down. The glass would not allow me to squeeze out the excess air, but could you please offer some thoughts on using glass? Thanks in advance!
We’re not in favor of glass…. Risk of explosion, and we don’t believe the threads match the carbonation cap. However, very shortly we’ll have a video out about an all stainless steel solution that you will love….. we do! Stay tuned.
I went a little different route i have a sodastream tera its not electric and has one button to carbonate with not sure if your familar with this model,but its a quick connect from machine to co2 cylinder and i purchased a 5lb tank from amazon along with a hose that has quick connect to my sodastream terra then to co2 tank!My problem im running into is when i am carbonating water there is a white substance that is flying/squirting out of the top of my sodastream,i dont know what im doing wrong or if this is dangerous or not if you could let me know what you think from what i have told please?Thankyou!
Hi, I'm not familiar with Sodastream machines, but it sounds like what you're describing is not good! I would carefully check out the source of the white substance... while the tank is not connected. I'd be concered that the Sodastream is not handling the input pressure from the CO2 tank, and an explosion could result, which could be very dangerous. Proceed with caution.... let me know what happens.
@@michaelb4512 since we haven’t ever used Sodastream machines, I wouldn’t want to give any advice on them. I’d definitely advise caution, as you are dealing with a lot of pressure.
Man. I can tell you've been researching this. Do you bottle much? I was concerned about bottling at 35 psi at 0c because I live in hot climate (38c)and the pressure in bottle would go to 120psi at room temp.
Hi Richard, I don't really bottle the soda, so I'm not familiar with the issue you're asking about. If you want to get a more authortative answer, try inquiring at a home brew store in your area. They would be more familiar with the pressure/temperature issue.
@NadiaandRob home brew places on my part of the planet don't exist and the people I order parts from online definitely aren't experts either. They barely know about beer stuff let alone something at higher pressure
Here’s a link that will solve both issues: stainless steel growler with regulator but no tank: www.kegoutlet.com/sparkling-water-maker-gooseneck-growler-faucet.html. Enjoy!
We would not recommend using glass bottle, but we have done a video with an alternative that you can check out: Mini Keg Growlers Review | Alternative to Plastic Bottles for Carbonation | by Keg Outlet ua-cam.com/video/zGsfovL9dfo/v-deo.html
As far as I know, the only benefit is the water tastes better and is more fun to drink, so maybe you drinmk more, which is good for you. As long as the bottle is pressurized, the water stays fizzy forever. When I pour out some water, I squeeze the bottle to get rid of air, then re-pressurize with CO2. This keeps the water fully fizzy forever!
Thank you for letting us know! I've changed the link and should be working now. The site we used to help shorten the original link seemed to have stopped working. Should be good now. Really appreciate in letting us know. 😄
Thanks for the video! Could you use this to refill a Soda Siphon? It'd be cool to have one to use, but the thought of having to get all the teeny little cartridges is less-cool.
I spent a ton of money on a worthless (but good looking) soda siphon a year or more ago. It barely carbonates at all. Sigh. Wish I had bought this setup instead.
Rob, do you know where I can buy some reusable bottles for this? I know I can reuse old soda bottles but I wanted to get something that looks a little more official. That way if I leave it somewhere , It wont likely get thrown out because someone thinks it is disposable. I have found some bottles but none that has an opening the size of a 20 oz or a 2 liter. My goal is to be able to carbolate a bottle and not open it until I am ready to drink it, So I don't lose any carbonation by transferring it to another bottle. Whenever I try searching for this I always get wide mouth bottles that can be used with other types of Carbonated water machines.
Yes. Unfortunately I haven’t found any bottles aside from soda bottles. You can choose the nicer looking spring water bottles but that’s the best I’ve found. If you find nicer ones let me know
If you want a solution to different types of PLASTIC bottles, check out: Carbonating at Home with Improvised Equipment and Soda Fountains.html. by Richard J. Kinch. He goes into, in detail, making your own custom carbonating caps.
Why don't the co2 bubbles enter the bottle like the soda streams do? ie why don't you have to shake a soda stream bottle to get the bubbles into the water?
The Soda Stream machins have a tube that extends down into the water, so the gas bubbles through the water. The allows the CO2 to absorb into the water. However, shaking the bottle allows much more CO2 to be absorbed so you get more carbonation than with a Soda Stream. I prefer the higher level of bubbles!
Hey, just wanted to thank you guys again for this video! I'd been using a Sodastream for about 8 years, but the CO2 refills just kept getting more and more expensive. I bought the set-up you recommended from keg Outlet, and it's been working great! I thought I'd mention a couple of things: I'm not a huge fan of plastic, and, TBH I worry about the rather thin-walled, single use soda bottles possibly rupturing while carbonating. So, I bought some glass sparkling water bottles from the store and had been using those. The only problem was that the stainless steel fill lid that came with my set up kept chipping off the threads of the glass bottles, and who wants glass shards in their drink?? So, I went to my local fermentation shop to see if they might have plastic fill lids that would work. Well, they have plastic fill lids that work with plastic bottles, but not with glass bottles. I mentioned my concern about the plastic bottles rupturing while carbonating and he said he'd never heard of that happening, but, he has heard of glass bottles rupturing--he says they can get stress cracks that you can't see! Obviously better to be hit by pieces of plastic than pieces of glass! Also while there he recommended a .05 micron diffusion stone saying it would produce a finer bubble--and he was right!! Really like using the diffusion stone, get them on Scamazon: www.amazon.com/Ferroday-Diffusion-Stainless-Aeration-Carbonating/dp/B07DFF4D3H/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=diffusion%2Bstone&qid=1681179731&sr=8-3&th=1
Wow, I'm so glad that's working out so well for you! I agree that the glass bottles are rather risky if they do explode! Before I created my set-up, I was in Dave Arnold's bar in New York, and was watching the bartender there carbonate, then re-carbonate their cocktail ingredients. I asked about the plastic bottles, and he said they've not experienced any problems with the plastic bottles, so I decided to trust them. I've had a couple of bottles in use for over two years, and no issues at all. I know they're tested at very high pressures because of the abuse they can be subject to in stores and shipping. I am interested in the carbonation stone.... thanks for the link. I'll give it a try and let you know. Glad you enjoyed the video! Happy Bubbles. Rob & Nadia
@@NadiaandRob i'd also like to see how that stone works, i'm about to order a setup like this myself. Does the stone some how go on the inside of the lid?
@@BitcoinNoddy I'm also going to get one of those stones and see how it works. The stone is attached to the lid with some clear vinyl tubing, so it sits at the bottom of the bottle. The the CO2 passes through the stone and gets broken up into tiny bubbles. It should allow for maximum carbonation, and no shaking. I'll order one and see how it works!
@@NadiaandRob Great video. I believe, however, that the purpose of the 'stone' is for the SLOW carbonation which occurs during the keggers beer making process. It may help- I'm interested, but the point of the stone, and the TINY, TINY holes in the stone, don't allow for quick carbonation- I believe. , and the beer making process uses much lower pressures, hence the value of the stone. during the SLOW beer making process. What you and I want is to expose the maximum area of the H2O to the gas infusion, hence the value of vigorous and extended shaking, until no more gas can enter the bottle. Agitation, cold temperatures, high pressure; I think those are the keys. Thanks again.
Hi Nadia and Bob. Just getting into DIY Sparkling water with the kit from your link. In fact your's was the first video I watched. Always been a big fan of Grapefruit flavoured Pierrier and Topo. There are so many types of infusions and concentrates out there that it's a bit confusing on what to use and how much to use. Love to find some recommendations on brand and types of flavouring. Have you had much expience in this area?
Hi John, Glad to hear you're getting going with your effervescent lifestyle! We're also big fans of grapefruit flavor! However, we don't really love the concentrates for flavors, as they're mostly just sugar syrup. We really love using cocktail bitters for flavor.....www.cocktailemporium.com/collections/grapefruit-bitters/products/fee-brothers-grapefruit-bitters is really good! We also like Fee Brothers Cardamum Bitters (surprising taste!). I'm going to be making a video soon about the various infusions and flavors we use with our system, so stay tuned!
@@NadiaandRob My initial impression is that the carbonation cap provides more carbonation than SS but shaking the bottle does require more time and effort.
Awesome. I pieced together a custom kit like this one for $181 on Amazon, but using a SodaStream glass carafe. Because of this video, I was able to learn about all the custom parts I needed. One innovation I did was to affix a double barb bulkhead fitting through a hole I drilled into the plastic cap included with the carafe, and silicone washers to make it airtight. I used high pressure food grade tubing between the barb of the pressure regulator and the barb on the cap, with black hose clamps with shrouds meant for fuel lines to tighten the hose onto the barbs (so it has improved aesthetics sitting on your counter top instead of having visible steel hose clamps). I also bought a tank that looks decent sitting on my counter top.
Hey filling a glass bottle with this setup is very dangerous, the glass could explode on you, be very careful. That is why the soda stream that uses the glass bottle is completely enclosed. I would very much advise against this.
We get lots of questions about alternatives to plastic bottles. We don't recommend glass bottles, but here is a great alternative: ua-cam.com/video/zGsfovL9dfo/v-deo.htmlsi=n2AWefv3HXi1MkzV
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I would like to express my appreciation for the choice of and volume level of the music you feature in this video. It is really perfect.
Really appreciate this comment as we really try to provide an ambient sound but not overpower the talking portion so folks can still get info. Thank you 😁
So nice to have a normal, and smart, person explain this. Very enjoyable and informative!
Thank you!
I do weld with the same co2 tanks except a bit bigger. I recommend pointing the pressure relief valve (safety valve) toward a wall.
That's a good suggestion. Thanks!
~THANK YOU, SIR !!!
Really poor tank safety in vid
Good video. There is only one thing I would add. I would never pressurize anything instantly like he did. To many variables. Hook it up with the quarter turn valve off then hook up the bottle. now slowly open the valve. It will carbonate just as good without a possible blowup. Even at 15 psi, that is Pound Per Square inch, is a little dangerous. He is correct. Good carbonation is temperature and pressure. I worked on commercial carbonators in my youth.
I use a 5 lb tank to refill my smaller gas cylinders at home. $34 USD for the braided stainless hose and fittings and $79 USD for a NEW powder coated aluminum 5 lb cylinder. No regulator required. $16 USD to fill the 5 lb tank. For an additional $14 USD I can get a hose and fitting to hook the 5 lb tank directly to my AARKE soda machine. Just another option to your system. Thanks for the video. New kitchen looks great!
Interesing system you have going! Yoou'll see in coming videos that we like to carbonate various things aside from water, so using the soda bottles works best for us. Glad you enjoyed the video, and the new kitchen!
I like the Seinfeld reference too.
I just bought an Aarke & would love more info on how you hooked it up to your 5lb tank and how you hide it please! I also like the idea of refilling the cylinders but I’m a little afraid of doing it.😬
@@melanie.c25 I don't hook my 5# tank directly to my Aarke. I refill the cylinders. There are videos on UA-cam that show in better detail than I can explain here. You need the tank. The hose setup from amazon. And a scale to weigh the small tank as you fill it. It's pretty safe. The tanks are rated for about twice the normal pressure, so if you fill it correctly, you have a huge safety range. I have filled 4 tanks and expect to get another tank and a half out of that 5# tank. That's under $3 per tank. The 10# tank would save even more as it is only a few $$ more to fill 10# than it is 5#. But the 10# is awkward to handle when filling the smaller tanks. Also, the hose set up has great instructions included. I can't post a link on youtube but this is the actual product: "FIDEURSUS CGA320 G1/2 CO2 Cylinder Refill Adapter Hose CO2 Refill Adapter Fill Station Connector Kit for Soda Filling for Tank Bottle (CGA320 to TR21-4, 36inch Hose, Dual Valve with Gauge)". This company also sells the direct hookup kit, although you will have to modify your Aarke body or cut a hole in your countertop to use the direct hookup.
I never would have even thought to try and refill them, so very glad for this comment!! I need a machine my kids can use but haven't invested in it because of cartridge price. Being able to refill them at home instead of spending $100 or so for a pack of CO2 tanks is genius 😅
Make a video for that plz
Thanks for doing this video. I bought parts to make this system and have been enjoying it for about the last year. Really helps to cut down on soda pop
Thank you for your video. I use a sodastream on a regular basis and have a hard time getting the refill cartridges delivered on time. I was looking at refilling them myself until your video came up. This is a much cheaper alternative and as you mentioned, by the time you need to refill, this unit pays for itself. Each refill is $60 for a single cartridge. To refill a 5 galon unit where I live is $20!!! This will save me so much money in the long run. Thank you again!
Glad this helped you save $ and enjoy great sparkling water! Check out our video on other things you can carbonate with this setup: ua-cam.com/video/scINmqvz0qU/v-deo.htmlsi=gmjz2rmJD0HF9B0r
Your the real Mr soda . It was relaxing watching your video
thanks.
WOW!!! Thanks Rob for a great audio/video explaining how to set up/use the 5 pound CO2 tank to home make sparkling water. I need to set up my tank at home also!
Great! Have fun.
I have a 20lb tank hooked up to one of our soda streams in the kitchen. My son comes and siphons from the tank to fill his 60l tank for his soda stream. Great video!
Omg thank you SO MUCH for making this video! I almost bought a countertop style carbonator but in researching it I found your video and THIS is exactly what I was really looking for!!! Simple, easy, and allows me to create creative drinks! Thank you again
So glad to hear that! Stay tuned for more creative carbonation ideas.
Hi, im so curious how to make that carbonated water.. Can I message you in private?
@@NadiaandRob Can I message you in private sir? Im so curious how to make carbonated water.. is that only purified water and pressured by CO2 tank and become Carbonated water?
@@archiegarcia3550 yes it’s just water and the co2 tank to pressurize and add co2. We just use plain tap water, but you can filter or use purified water if you wish.
Hope that helps.
So glad I found your video!!! I hate those pokey flimsy overpriced machines that purport to deliver carbonation. Nothing but a pack of lies, stealing your money, and delivering Chinese trash. I'm sick of being fleeced for $60 a tiny tank that needs a subscription mailing service to restock. Absolute rubbish - this whole line of thinking.
I like robust solutions to problems. Everything in my house is a tank that lasts forever and costs little to refill. This is the root solution I was looking for. I am very pleased to have found this gold nugget of info and thank you profoundly. You have lifted all my frustration and shown me the light, ha ha! This is truly the way to go. Since you gave me this gold nugget, let me give you one back:
1. Commercial sodas, seltzers are very bad for you. The caffeine blocks vitamins/minerals and gives you adrenal damage, the dyes and preservatives damage your nerves, the sugar gives you metabolic disease, fatty liver, heart disease, Dementia, etc, the salt gives you hypertension, hardens arteries, etc. The phosphoric acid that gives tartness, is also a preservative and gives you osteoporosis. Charming stuff, isn't it? No wonder, Americans who are hooked on sodas are dying like flies.
2. Home made soda however, is the best drink you can have. CO2 dilates blood vessels and activates the CCO enzyme inside the cell mitochondria (energy furnace) so that more oxygen is absorbed. The better your cell respiration (breathing of oxygen) the longer you will live, entirely disease free. Its the nitric oxide that is killing us and giving us cancer, etc. CO2, antioxidants, Methylene Blue, a small amount of coffee daily is the key to robust health. This is why drinking carbonated water is very, very good for us for oxygenation, and also for clearing bowels, constipation, digestion, hydration, etc. Drink lots!
3. Use filtered water like a Berkey that has white filters for arsenic and fluoride removal + the carbon filters too. Costs $200-$300, is portable, robust, needs a cheap filter change occasionally, and gives you the best bang for the buck. Reverse Osmosis wastes water and strips it of minerals. Berkey is the best choice, buy second hand even cheaper on FB Marketplace or Craigslist locally.
Thanks for all the info! Glad you like the video.
I've been using a setup like this for some years. I usually flavor my water with lemon or orange extract to a 1% solution (10 ml/liter) and typically use 2 liter soda bottles. I'm in the US and used to get my cylinder refilled at a fire extinguisher firm. Lately, all the places that I've gone to (4 or 5) won't refill the cylinder. What they will do is an exchange. The one disadvantage of this is that you don't get to keep your nice pristine tank. There are several advantages. First you pick up the exchange and leave and so you don't drop off your tank and come back later (sometimes much later) after refill. Second, you don't have to worry about the periodic hydro test every five years (in the US, Canada also from what I've read) as your exchange will have been properly inspected.
This review was therapeutic. I love how simple and straightforward the presentation. Very enjoyable.
Thanks so much!
@@NadiaandRob you bet!! Keep up the good work!
In germany we have deposit on these standard sodastream co2 tanks. You buy it once for about 25 € and when it’s empty you go to any store where you can exchange it for a full tank for just 6 €
we have a similar system in Canada, just a bit more expensive, around 14 Euro for the refill.
Thanks for the info!
this is the most soothing informative video i've watched on youtube to date. thank you! (also bonus points for mentioning Dave Arnold)
Thank you for your encouragement, we really appreciate the positive feedback.
I use the same system but added a rigid plastic tube (straw) to the bottle adaptor that just reaches the bottom of the bottle, then put a diffuser stone on that. The result is thousands of tiny bubbles of CO2 bubbling up through the water. I set my regulator to 40 psi, start the flow just like here and walk away for a minute or two, one shake just to be sure and add flavoring!
I've been using a setup like that for a couple of years now and I really like it.
I attached 6" of silicon tubing to the cap and put a carb stone on the other end. I am impatient 😀.
Wow....I really enjoyed watching this video...The back drop was clean and friendly; Robs decorum, and voice was very nirvana....Thank you for the tutorial..
Glad you enjoyed and thank you! Nirvana eh?
@@NadiaandRob By the way ....What is the name of that wonderful plant in the background ?
Hi Yozy, it’s a variety of Jasmine plant that’s been in my family for a very long time. Unfortunately, not sure of which type, but it gives off amazing perfume in evenings and nighttime’s when in full bloom. - Nadia
@@NadiaandRob Awesome....Thank you kindly Rob..Have a great day.
A very interesting video.
Just wondering whether it would be possible if you already have a Sodastream to fix it to the counter top and run the hose from where the small cylinder connects through the counter top into the cupboard below and have the big tank stored in there and connected. That way you can use the 5lb tank rather than having to keep buying the small refills, but keep the convenience of the easy to use Sodastream system.
Glad you enjoyed the video! There are definitely adaptors to attach a tank to a sodastream, and I assume you could run the hose up from the cupboard. Should be easy to accomplish, and will definitely save you $$$ on refills! If you have space in the cupboard, go for a 10lb tank, since it costs about the same to refill, and it means fewer trips to the gass supplier.
Have fun!
Ive done this and found the quick dissconnect tops can leak. So best to put original caps back on to keep thr bubbles up! Fyi.
Hi Rob, thanks very much for this video!! I was tired of picking up the many bottles of water that we drink. I ended up buying the kit and found your video very clear and easy to follow. So simple and saving money! We appreciate all of your videos and can't wait to see more of them. Thank you and keep up the great work.
So glad you’re enjoying your effervescent lifestyle!
Great video and thanks for mentioning us! As a small, family owned business, it's greatly appreciated. Cheers!
PS - Kitchen looks great!
Glad to support a fellow small business. Thanks for watching.
Bought this kit for my partner for Christmas and omg he's like a kid in a candy store! He makes every and any type of drink fizzy. Thank you for the informative video! Do you happen to have any recommendations for a setup to add it to a coffee/tea bar?
So glad you're enjoying your carbonation setup. The simplest way to add this to a coffee bar would be to make space under the bar for the CO2 tank, and bring the hose up through a custom hole in the bar. That way you could tuck it neatly away, and just pull out the hose when you need it.
There are ways to put a countertop tap for carbonated water on your bar, but that's way beyond my expertise.
Hope that helps!
Look for kegerator kits. You can fill a 5 gallon keg and carbonate it then have it on demand at a tap. I can easily find used kegs for 15 usd where I live on market. Place
Thanks.
I ordered one through your link.
Been addicted to Topo Chico… which is expensive for what it is… meanwhile I am blessed with delicious well water. I like that I can really crank up the fizz… if I’m gonna have bubbly water… I want lotsa bubbles!
Gonna buy a bottle capper…. So I can still use my glass bottles.
Would putting a piece of tube on the carbonating cap spigot and about three quarters of the way down the bottle have the same effect as shaking the bottle.
I use a 1 liter bottle and added a 3 inch hose the end of mine because I noticed liquid getting into the main hose.
A (5) gallon Co2 tank should carbonate 50 to 80 gallons of liquid depending on how bubbly you like your drinks.
In my area its $30 at Airgas to refill a (5) gallon tank.
A 5 lb Co2 tank...
Is it possible to buy an adapter that runs from a ball connector to a TR21-4 fitting? I'd like to have the dual option of carbonating directly to a soda bottle and connecting to my Sodastream machine.
I'm sure something like that is available. I've seen kits for connecting to a Sodastream... and you may have to use a Y-joint to connec t the two hoses.
So good to sit through your video, will install it next week thx from down under :)
I do that on two liter bottles of pop to keep it carbonated.
Very helpful video. Thanks so much for the insight. Will be in touch about trying to track down one of these systems and what other apparatus we can charge with CO2. Cheers!
Glad it was helpful! Looking forward to hearing from you
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Wow, thanks!
I've built a similar system seven years ago using a 20 lb tank. Cost $40 to fill and has lasted us for a few years before refilling. We usually carbonate a 2 liter coke bottle (8 cups) and that serves the whole family at dinner time.
Sounds like you have a great system for the whole family! You’re saving a ton of money compared to using a sodastream! Thanks for sharing
@@NadiaandRob Same system here for two of us. One 2 liter bottle per day on average. The 20 # tank will last until the tank pressure won't maintain desired infusion pressure, Loooooong time. !!!!!
@@divingfe yes, a 20 lb tank is great if you have the space to store it.
Thank you for the info, how many seconds or minutes do you leave it puming co2 under 60 or 50PSI?
What do you mean when you said leave until "pop"?
I tried it today, I don't see much bubbles, 😅
Should I leave the pressure open during my shaking?
Would the bottle explode if over filling it under 60psi pressure??
Hi. Yes, connect the bottle to the CO2 at 60 PSI... then give it a good shake to allow the gas to mix with the water. 30-60 seconds or more if you wish..... with the pressure on. The for extra bubbles (I like really strong bubbles) disconnect the CO2 hose, open the cap and squeeze out all air in the bottle. Then reconnect the hose and shake again.
That will definitely give you great carbonation... strong bubbles.
Enjoy!
@NadiaandRob so this around 120 seconds of carbonation under pressure of 60psi, without fearing the bottle gets poped, because they can with stand pressure 60 psi easily, bottle will feel hard, still no worry.
Remember, these "Coke" 2 liter bottles are built to withstand cold temperatures, hot temperatures, the stress of multiple transportation, etc. 60 psi is OK; So,...to clarify, fill up the bottle with your drinking water, up to the bottle curve ( If you boil it -then let it cool- first, then refrigerate to cold, slushy/icy, then, when connecting your unit, first squeeze out the air in the top curve, then attach-while squeezing- the CO2 cap, then open your valve which will expand the squeezed part, tighten the CO2 cap, then SHAKE It- I do for at least a minute, maybe more. When done, close your valve, and either leave the CO2 cap on to seal it, or swap with the regular cap ( on Tight). and re -refrigerate until usage time. No more shaking, and pour gently, unless you want to release all that nice CO2 into the outside air!... The above mentioned boiling/cooling/no air space routines are in order to allow the water to absorb the maximum amount of CO2 infusion. The more shaking, the more infusion
is there any big difference when applying different pressure like 30 or 40 psi, instead of 50 or 60 psi? AFAIK for beer keg they used to only put 15 psi.
I really like a lot of carbonation in my sparkling water, so I tend to set the higher pressure. However, I haven't tested side by side with lower pressures. I would assume that the higher pressure may speed up the carbonation process, but in the end you reach around the same level of CO2 absorbed. I also know that beer is carbonated at a much lower level, since you don't want it to pour with too much head.
Hope that answers your question.
That was really helpful and clear, thanks!
Greetings Thank you for the link I'm sold. Is there a special bundle to look for when ordering? Or do we have to buy everything à la carte? And if so is there a parts list? Great lesson thank you
here are links: www.ontariobeerkegs.com/home-carb-sys.html
www.kegoutlet.com/sp202-taprite-soda-carbonating-kit-taprite-regulator-5-lb-co2-tank.html
www.kegoutlet.com/sparkling-water-maker-gooseneck-growler-faucet.html
Enjoy!
Should have been a teacher. Superbly done video - nothing left to doubt. Outstanding and much gratitude.
Thank you so much! I actually am a teacher… photography and video. Glad you enjoyed the video.
Ordered from the US site, can't wait to get it. Had a bad experience with soda stream support and was looking to have a replacement, So excited thank you!
Arrived today, got my cylinder filled at a local shop called Aegis. Mine came pre assembled, and had a slight leak in one fitting but was likely just knocked loose in shipping and easy to fix.
Already loving it, way better than soda stream by far. Ordered a few more carbonation caps from Amazon to have spairs.
Again thank you for this video!
So glad that worked out so well for you! Stay tuned for other drinks you can carbonate.... video coming soon.
@TheSeeker385 which US site did you order from? My wife wants a soda stream and I knew there was a more economical way to do this.
@@StealthJackson12B I used the link in the description, the one labeled US for the keg outlet site, you can also Google keg outlet and search Soda Carbonating Kit. I've used it for months now and love it, only filled the tank once and it was because had a leak and forgot to close it right lol the second refill has lasted 3+months, and doesn't even look like we've used anything going off the gauge
Nice to see someone into carbonation as much as me. I can't do no 2 liter bottle because as soon as you open it and put it in the fridge it will never be the same so I buy the cans but im looking for a better way to re carbonate my drinks
Maybe Open slowly, pour GENTLY, recap immediately and re-refrigerate. The fizz will last much longer.
If you want to place the bottle back in the fridge right after carbonation, can you put the original plastic cap back on or it needs to be the carbonation cap?
Hi. You can actually do either one. I like to maintain maximum carbonation, so I keep the carbonation cap on the bottle, and I re-pressurize before putting it back in the fridge. But I’m admittedly a carbonation nut! You can certainly simply cap with a regular cap… and it will keep it sparkling.
Hope that helps!
Thank you Sir..
I want to know little bit more about carbanating, any possibility of contacting you ?
You answered all of my questions, a quality video. Thank you!
Glad to hear it!
Love, love, love this video! Was wondering about cleaning.... how often? Products you recommend? How to?
There’s really not much to clean! The co2 hose and filler cap don’t get dirty, as they are only touching gas. I wash the bottles and carbonation caps with regular soap.. that’s it!
i was told by OBK not to carbonate it past 20 psi as its causing some parts to break
Truly eye opening ive been on the fence about the carbonating wagon.
Jump on! You won’t regret it. Stay tuned for more videos about carbonation and some of the things we “sparkle”
Which glass bottles can I use? I’m trying to cut down on microplastic consumption!!
We don't recommend glass bottles. We do have a great alternative though. Follow the links in our top comment. Enjoy!
did you use food grade c02? or regular c02?
We're not buying from a welding gas supplier, so presumably it's food grade
Can this system be used with glass bottles such as the green S.Pelegríno ones?
No... I don't believe the threads match... and very dangerous if you were to drop the bottle! Check this video for an alternative: ua-cam.com/video/zGsfovL9dfo/v-deo.htmlsi=BzfFNRwRvo-gxj6g
Is there any concern about mechanical oils being present in the canister (when purchased) or in the CO2 gas (when filling the canister) which could end up being injected into your beverages?
Not at all. I bought the canister from a brewer supply and the co2 is from a beverage supplier.
Don’t buy from a welding supplier as they sometimes use lower grade co2
Bear in mind that co2 is used in all restaurants and bars that serve sodas and beer so the supply chain is safe
Can you do a parts breakdown? perhaps a list in video description? I can find a kit in Greece and Amazon is my only choice but still have to find individual parts,
Here's the parts breakdown from the place we bought the kit:
1 Taprite High Performance Primary Dual Gauge Regulator (Check Valve with No Switch)
1 MFL Threaded Gas Ball Lock Disconnect with Stainless Steel Swivel Nut
4' of Ultraflex Gas Tubing
1 Plastic Carbonation Cap
2 Stainless Steel Hose Clamps
Aluminum CO2 Tank (we got a 5lb tank)
Hope that helps!
@@NadiaandRob Isn't aluminum toxic? I thought the CO2 Tank would be in stainless steel.
@@btsarmyforever3816 Aluminum is completely safe for holding gas, and it’s used for many similar applications
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Thank you so much for these demonstration
Are there glass or other bottles I can use in place of plastic?
As far as I know they don't match the threads. Also glass could be very dangerous. Try this solution: ua-cam.com/video/zGsfovL9dfo/v-deo.htmlsi=bh6PVkCFJJdefj-F
Does it works good for home brewing ?
We don’t do home brewing so we’re not sure
Can this kit be used with glass bottles?
No. The threads don’t match…. And too dangerous if the bottle slipped out of your hand! Check out our recent video ua-cam.com/video/zGsfovL9dfo/v-deo.htmlsi=8cbgLg3nkYbPSgwH for a better solution.
I hope you have an affiliate link there because I definitely just got this set up at home! Tyty, was torn between trying to get a whole kegerator set up for seltzer vs a countertop model like a sodastream or higher end stuff, and this was the perfect entry point while we figure out what we want next!
Keg Outlet Affiliate Link: www.kegoutlet.com/?ref=NADIAANDROB Enjoy!
Could you explain the clean up for this type of set up? Is breakdown safe to get into those spots with the washers? Is it necessary?
Hi Naomi. I’m not sure what you mean by clean up.
What bottles is everyone using? Can’t seem to find bottles that can stand on it own after pressurization….
Hi James,
We use the 2 liter coke (or any soda) bottles. They have a deeply indented bottom that doesn't pop out when pressurized. The 1 liter size of some brands work as well, but some bulge out and won's stand. Look for brands that have deep indents on the bottom.
Hope that helps.
Excellent educational video. Can you use a Pellegrino glass bottle to make carbonated water? Is there any issue with using a glass bottle beside it can break? The bottle is 34oz. which is perfect for a person to consume.
I believe the thread on the peregrine bottle doesn't match the carbonation cap. I'd also be very nervous about pressurizing a glass container! Stay tuned for a new unique solution coming soon!
thanks, I am intereting in the video@@NadiaandRob
Thank you so much for this! I've been thinking about eliminating all the plastic bottles of carbonated water I buy even though I recycle them. I have one question - when you are shutting down after carbonating your water, you turned off the valve on the top of the tank. I didn't see you turn off the valve on the hose attached to the regulator - do you recommend that? Thank you!
Glad you enjoyed…. Here’s to eliminating plastic bottles! Once you’ve turned off the main valve on the tank there’s no need to turn off the valve on the hose. Nothing’s coming out of the cylinder so all’s good.
@@NadiaandRob Thank you! And your home is lovely.
Thank you! Stay tuned… we’re moving in July to an equally beautiful space. Videos to follow
Can I use a San Pelligrino 1 liter glass bottle?
We don't recommend using glass bottles, as there is a risk of them shattering. Also, I dont believe the threads match the carbonation caps. If you want to avoid using plastic bottles, stay tuned here.... a new very cool solution is coming soon!
is there a glass bottle that works with this system?
Is far as I know they don't match the threads. Also glass could be very dangerous. Try this solution: ua-cam.com/video/zGsfovL9dfo/v-deo.htmlsi=bh6PVkCFJJdefj-F
Hi there ! Thanks for the video. Do you keep the tank in a refrigerator or can it be kept at room temperature?
Glad you enjoyed the video. We keep the tank in a cupboard... room temp. We keep the water to carbonate in the fridge.... the colder the water is, the more CO2 it will absorb, so it gets more bubbly.
Are there concerns about shaking upside down and water going into the line?
I've heard some people mention this as an issue. I've never had a problem with it, but if you wish you can shake the bottle while upright. It does the same thing.
Hi, Assuming I put everything together correctly, are there any dangers or safety concerns setting up and using the setup you’re showing. Thank you.
We haven’t experienced any safety issues. The soda bottles are extremely durable and they have never caused any problems. One viewer commented that you should be careful to prevent the CO2 cylinder from falling and breaking the valve off the top. That seems sensible.
@@NadiaandRob thank you.
I was spending way too much money buying carbonated water. Thanks to your video and detailed explanation, I have now been doing my own carbonation with the instructions you provided and I've save so much money. It has been now 2 months and I'm still on the 1st tank. I drink at least 2 1 quart bottle per day. Thank you very much for making this informative and instuctive video.
We’re so glad it worked out so well for you! Enjoy!
Great explanation, easy to follow instructions, thank you!
Should you use food grade CO2 instead of industrial ( as used by welders)?
We’ve heard various opinions on that. I haven’t heard anything definitive. The place we get co2 from supplies dry ice and gasses for the beverage industry so it’s food grade. If you find a supplier of welding gasses just ask them if their co2 is suitable
Awesome and really helpful video. One question, how do you know when to stop inserting CO2 in the bottle/liquid? Is there any indication showing that enough carbonation has occurred or enough gas has entered the liquid?
Glad you found this helpful! You can hear the CO2 going through the hose and into the bottle, especially as you give it a shake. Once that sound slows, you've added enough CO2. With time, you get a feel for how much carbonation you like for your palette.
Enjoy!
@@NadiaandRob Ohh i see. Thanks a lot.
Where do you get the plastic bottles?
They are standard soda bottles. Any soft drink.
Can you carbonate non-clear fluids using this method? Meaning, can you carbonate juice with pulp in it or other solids? Some videos suggested carbonating only clear fluids...
The problem with carbonation liquids with pulp or solids in them is they tend to really foam up when you open them. You can do it, but you have to open them slowly to let the foam die down.
was looking for sparkling water machine for last 3 years but never bought one because of negative reviews. saw this video and ordered everything right away. was well worth the wait. thanks so much
Wow... we're really happy to hear that! Enjoy your sparkling water.
Where and how do I order. Been looking to order one
Hi, great information
Can you use this to make sparkling wine? Or do I need something else?
Thank you
Hi. Yes you can absolutely make sparkling wine with this! Same as doing water. Stay tuned for more videos on other thing you can carbonate
@@NadiaandRob Thank for such a quick reply, I will try to order today
Hope to see you making sparkling wine soon, I'll keep watching.
I have issues with the water back flowing into my hose, any tips?
Keep the bottle upright when you shake it.
so if i have access to a full truckload of beverage grade liquid co2...... 🤔 i'll have to test this out
You won't live anywhere near long enough to use it all up, no matter how young you are. ONE 20# tankful will carbonate about 500 2 liter bottles!!!!!
There is actually a fourth factor that determines the amount of carbonation you get. Although it's related to one of the three factors you mentioned, I believe it deserves a mention on its own. That fourth factor is the size of the bubbles you create as you carbonate. Smaller bubbles, because of the higher surface-to-volume ratio, will more effectively carbonate the liquid as they pass through it. I started with a setup identical to yours and sourced from the same place, and I use the techniques identical to what you've shown in every respect. After a time, though, I switched to a small dropper hose that attaches to the inside of the carbonation cap. That hose drops down into the bottle and I terminate it with a small stainless steel bubbler that works exactly like an airstone in an aquarium. It makes incredibly fine bubbles that are far less than a millimetre in diameter that, I believe, allow for more of the CO2 to diffuse into the water as they percolate up through the liquid. In summary, thanks for the excellent primer. I wish I had come across something like this before I spent hours researching all this stuff on my own. Cheers!
Yes, and who knew there was so much science behind making bubbly water! Thanks for the info.
Shouldn't you close the relief valve when finishing the carbonation?
We close the top valve after carbonation.
thank you@@NadiaandRob
Is there a pressure cap that fits the flip cap style bottle?
No there isn't. If you want to use those, yhou have to carbonate in a regular soda bottle, then transfer to a flip cap and seal it.
Hope that helps.
Thank you so much for this video! I am super curious what your feelings are on using glass? I'm really starting to mitigate my plastic intake as more research comes out, especially using the same plastic over and over as it breaks down. The glass would not allow me to squeeze out the excess air, but could you please offer some thoughts on using glass? Thanks in advance!
We’re not in favor of glass…. Risk of explosion, and we don’t believe the threads match the carbonation cap. However, very shortly we’ll have a video out about an all stainless steel solution that you will love….. we do! Stay tuned.
@@NadiaandRob really looking forward to that… Thank you!
I went a little different route i have a sodastream tera its not electric and has one button to carbonate with not sure if your familar with this model,but its a quick connect from machine to co2 cylinder and i purchased a 5lb tank from amazon along with a hose that has quick connect to my sodastream terra then to co2 tank!My problem im running into is when i am carbonating water there is a white substance that is flying/squirting out of the top of my sodastream,i dont know what im doing wrong or if this is dangerous or not if you could let me know what you think from what i have told please?Thankyou!
Hi, I'm not familiar with Sodastream machines, but it sounds like what you're describing is not good! I would carefully check out the source of the white substance... while the tank is not connected. I'd be concered that the Sodastream is not handling the input pressure from the CO2 tank, and an explosion could result, which could be very dangerous. Proceed with caution.... let me know what happens.
I do not have any regulators hooked I'm wo during if that would solve my problem?
@@michaelb4512 since we haven’t ever used Sodastream machines, I wouldn’t want to give any advice on them. I’d definitely advise caution, as you are dealing with a lot of pressure.
Man. I can tell you've been researching this. Do you bottle much? I was concerned about bottling at 35 psi at 0c because I live in hot climate (38c)and the pressure in bottle would go to 120psi at room temp.
Hi Richard, I don't really bottle the soda, so I'm not familiar with the issue you're asking about. If you want to get a more authortative answer, try inquiring at a home brew store in your area. They would be more familiar with the pressure/temperature issue.
@NadiaandRob home brew places on my part of the planet don't exist and the people I order parts from online definitely aren't experts either. They barely know about beer stuff let alone something at higher pressure
I found the link for the regulator… Is it necessary to buy the tank with it? I already have my own… Looking for a link to just the regulator.
That’s no problem. The same company can sell you just the regulator and you can use it on your own tank.
Here’s a link that will solve both issues: stainless steel growler with regulator but no tank: www.kegoutlet.com/sparkling-water-maker-gooseneck-growler-faucet.html.
Enjoy!
Is this safe to do with a glass bottle?
We would not recommend using glass bottle, but we have done a video with an alternative that you can check out: Mini Keg Growlers Review | Alternative to Plastic Bottles for Carbonation | by Keg Outlet
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are there any benefits drinking carbonated water? once carbonated, how long does the carbonated water stay fizzy when placed in the ref?
As far as I know, the only benefit is the water tastes better and is more fun to drink, so maybe you drinmk more, which is good for you.
As long as the bottle is pressurized, the water stays fizzy forever. When I pour out some water, I squeeze the bottle to get rid of air, then re-pressurize with CO2. This keeps the water fully fizzy forever!
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Thanks for the video! Could you use this to refill a Soda Siphon? It'd be cool to have one to use, but the thought of having to get all the teeny little cartridges is less-cool.
I have'nt seen a soda siphon that you can pressurize from a tank... which is too bad since soda siphons are great looking!
I spent a ton of money on a worthless (but good looking) soda siphon a year or more ago. It barely carbonates at all. Sigh. Wish I had bought this setup instead.
thank you so much for sharing this knowledge and trials with us!!
You are so welcome! Glad you enjoyed.
Fantastic tutorial Thank you so much!!!
You’re most welcome :)
Is That bottle can hold 50psi pressure ? Whats maximum pressure that regular soda drink bottle can gold guys?
We pressurize to around 60 PSI. I know these bottles are tested to well over 100 PSI.
i wonder what color is his bugatti
Hey, great video. Love it!
Thank you... glad you enjoyed!
Rob, do you know where I can buy some reusable bottles for this? I know I can reuse old soda bottles but I wanted to get something that looks a little more official. That way if I leave it somewhere , It wont likely get thrown out because someone thinks it is disposable. I have found some bottles but none that has an opening the size of a 20 oz or a 2 liter. My goal is to be able to carbolate a bottle and not open it until I am ready to drink it, So I don't lose any carbonation by transferring it to another bottle.
Whenever I try searching for this I always get wide mouth bottles that can be used with other types of Carbonated water machines.
Yes. Unfortunately I haven’t found any bottles aside from soda bottles. You can choose the nicer looking spring water bottles but that’s the best I’ve found. If you find nicer ones let me know
If you want a solution to different types of PLASTIC bottles, check out: Carbonating at Home with Improvised Equipment and Soda Fountains.html. by
Richard J. Kinch. He goes into, in detail, making your own custom carbonating caps.
Why don't the co2 bubbles enter the bottle like the soda streams do? ie why don't you have to shake a soda stream bottle to get the bubbles into the water?
The Soda Stream machins have a tube that extends down into the water, so the gas bubbles through the water. The allows the CO2 to absorb into the water. However, shaking the bottle allows much more CO2 to be absorbed so you get more carbonation than with a Soda Stream. I prefer the higher level of bubbles!
Hey, just wanted to thank you guys again for this video! I'd been using a Sodastream for about 8 years, but the CO2 refills just kept getting more and more expensive. I bought the set-up you recommended from keg Outlet, and it's been working great! I thought I'd mention a couple of things: I'm not a huge fan of plastic, and, TBH I worry about the rather thin-walled, single use soda bottles possibly rupturing while carbonating. So, I bought some glass sparkling water bottles from the store and had been using those. The only problem was that the stainless steel fill lid that came with my set up kept chipping off the threads of the glass bottles, and who wants glass shards in their drink?? So, I went to my local fermentation shop to see if they might have plastic fill lids that would work. Well, they have plastic fill lids that work with plastic bottles, but not with glass bottles. I mentioned my concern about the plastic bottles rupturing while carbonating and he said he'd never heard of that happening, but, he has heard of glass bottles rupturing--he says they can get stress cracks that you can't see! Obviously better to be hit by pieces of plastic than pieces of glass! Also while there he recommended a .05 micron diffusion stone saying it would produce a finer bubble--and he was right!! Really like using the diffusion stone, get them on Scamazon: www.amazon.com/Ferroday-Diffusion-Stainless-Aeration-Carbonating/dp/B07DFF4D3H/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=diffusion%2Bstone&qid=1681179731&sr=8-3&th=1
Wow, I'm so glad that's working out so well for you! I agree that the glass bottles are rather risky if they do explode! Before I created my set-up, I was in Dave Arnold's bar in New York, and was watching the bartender there carbonate, then re-carbonate their cocktail ingredients. I asked about the plastic bottles, and he said they've not experienced any problems with the plastic bottles, so I decided to trust them. I've had a couple of bottles in use for over two years, and no issues at all. I know they're tested at very high pressures because of the abuse they can be subject to in stores and shipping.
I am interested in the carbonation stone.... thanks for the link. I'll give it a try and let you know.
Glad you enjoyed the video! Happy Bubbles.
Rob & Nadia
@@NadiaandRob i'd also like to see how that stone works, i'm about to order a setup like this myself. Does the stone some how go on the inside of the lid?
@@BitcoinNoddy I'm also going to get one of those stones and see how it works. The stone is attached to the lid with some clear vinyl tubing, so it sits at the bottom of the bottle. The the CO2 passes through the stone and gets broken up into tiny bubbles. It should allow for maximum carbonation, and no shaking. I'll order one and see how it works!
@@NadiaandRobDid you try it?
@@NadiaandRob Great video. I believe, however, that the purpose of the 'stone' is for the SLOW carbonation which occurs during the keggers beer making process. It may help- I'm interested, but the point of the stone, and the TINY, TINY holes in the stone, don't allow for quick carbonation- I believe. , and the beer making process uses much lower pressures, hence the value of the stone. during the SLOW beer making process. What you and I want is to expose the maximum area of the H2O to the gas infusion, hence the value of vigorous and extended shaking, until no more gas can enter the bottle. Agitation, cold temperatures, high pressure; I think those are the keys. Thanks again.
Hi Nadia and Bob. Just getting into DIY Sparkling water with the kit from your link. In fact your's was the first video I watched. Always been a big fan of Grapefruit flavoured Pierrier and Topo. There are so many types of infusions and concentrates out there that it's a bit confusing on what to use and how much to use. Love to find some recommendations on brand and types of flavouring. Have you had much expience in this area?
Hi John, Glad to hear you're getting going with your effervescent lifestyle! We're also big fans of grapefruit flavor! However, we don't really love the concentrates for flavors, as they're mostly just sugar syrup. We really love using cocktail bitters for flavor.....www.cocktailemporium.com/collections/grapefruit-bitters/products/fee-brothers-grapefruit-bitters is really good! We also like Fee Brothers Cardamum Bitters (surprising taste!). I'm going to be making a video soon about the various infusions and flavors we use with our system, so stay tuned!
I got a Sodastream (bought it used) but want to try this approach also -- so I made a Sodastream compatible cap for ~$30 in parts.
That’s a cool idea. Do you notice much difference between the two?
@@NadiaandRob My initial impression is that the carbonation cap provides more carbonation than SS but shaking the bottle does require more time and effort.
Awesome. I pieced together a custom kit like this one for $181 on Amazon, but using a SodaStream glass carafe. Because of this video, I was able to learn about all the custom parts I needed. One innovation I did was to affix a double barb bulkhead fitting through a hole I drilled into the plastic cap included with the carafe, and silicone washers to make it airtight. I used high pressure food grade tubing between the barb of the pressure regulator and the barb on the cap, with black hose clamps with shrouds meant for fuel lines to tighten the hose onto the barbs (so it has improved aesthetics sitting on your counter top instead of having visible steel hose clamps). I also bought a tank that looks decent sitting on my counter top.
wow, sounds like you've made a great setup! Glad we could inspire you.
Hey filling a glass bottle with this setup is very dangerous, the glass could explode on you, be very careful. That is why the soda stream that uses the glass bottle is completely enclosed. I would very much advise against this.
Can you please share the Amazon links for the parts you obtained?