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I believe there is a big market out there for an affordable and qaulity music streamer transport with user friendly interface and great OS like the Ultra or Eversolo without DAC. Focus on clean power, noised filtered ethernet input and etc to make it a killer product.
Just want to throw a quick thanks your way for taking the time to make these videos. So few of the “reviews” on UA-cam do anything more than tell you one person’s opinion. With these videos we get to draw our own conclusions, which is super cool.
Question is as transport alone for streamer? As you can see, your audience is focused on the streaming focus as many use an external DAC of their choice. Great channel but was surprised not to hear about this.
Great A and B comparison. Are you using an external DAC? The Eversolo sounds slightly better (over youtube). I just purchased the WiiM Ultra and am very happy with it. I would not spend the extra money on the Eversolo
This was a streamer DAC shootout, not a "Streamer" shootout. I would hope the DAC in the EverSolo sounded better, as it should. But, how about a streamer comparison? Sure, the Ultra is not a $1000 streamer, but for the money, as a streamer, it is going to be very hard to beat. Then the room correction, PEQ and EQ capabilities of the Wiim software, another major selling point. And yes I own one, along with a much better Volumio Rivo bridge streamer, using a Farad Super 3 LPS along with a Roon Nucleus One with the Sbooster LPS. And yes, it sounds better than the Ultra as a streamer. But not $2000 better.
realistically they both sound very good the Wiim is incredible value for money and i don't think anyone will be disappointed if they buy one nothing can touch it in that price bracket. for me its the A8 for the main system even over the hifi rose but the wiim all day for the garage/outdoor deck space, i used to just stream bluetooth from my phone around there and it was quite annoying if i went out of range, the wiim solves that and is a big leap in quality from that setup.
Manufacturers should add ´streamers only´ to their range. Less parts but better quality and more digital outputs, no need for build in dacs, BT, screens (for me personal)...🙏
You asked for it, so I did it. $80 vs $8000 streamer with digital output only compared. very little difference in sound quality between them in $30000 system. I was extremely surprised.
@@dennisyi9038 I have no doubt but in fact this is not 100% my point. I´m saying it would be nice to have more ´streamers only´ with: sufficient digital outputs ( EBU + coax + optimale + usb + I2s) to match the most possible dacs, plug and play with a stable and easy to use app for IOS and Android, a nice form factor with metal housing (silver + black) finish, high quality power supply (smps or lps), price point between 500 and 1000$. This would thik many boxes but please name one 😅
@@pyntzer - I do with a RME ADI-2 and it's very good but I prefer optical glass toslink cable from a WiiM Pro which is better. When I don't use USB and play streaming the WiiM Pro is very good with some additions: external 5v power supply, optical fiber with Cisco boxes. Very nice results via Audirvana.
I listened to the video twice. Through my highly revealing system and through my friends $1,500 iem's and there was about a 2% (completely random number😮) difference between the Wiim and the Eversolo. I run my Ultra through a Nad M51 dac and it sounds incredible. I had a Lumin t1 and it just wasn't worth the price. As long as it can be used as a Roon endpoint, it's good for me😊
There would unlikely be any audible difference. The implementation of that DAC is why there is a sound difference not the bit perfect streaming that can both do. Unless of course there was a major flaw in the design.
Another interesting test. Preferred the Eversolo but difference is not huge. Not sure if I could pick up on it doing a blind test. Wiim Ultra delivers tremendous value
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16:26 I have my WiiM Ultra hooked up to the Marantz mm9000 and using the sub out on the ultra to run my Klipsch RSW-12 dual fire subwoofer. Marantz amp is running Klipsch rp-600m ii it's very good. And using the equalizer it will perform even better.
In my mind the big advantage of Eversolo is native Apple Music with hi-res, no muss no fuss. If you use other services the WiiM is probably good enough. If you want better performance from the Wiim you can always go down the external DAC rabbit hole.
Hello, Thanks for this video 👍 Is there a difference between the two devices with an external dac ? Which one is better because I would like to use it as a pure streamer with my dac? Thanks in advance for your answer.
These comments of owners of either device are so tiring.... all subjective. And no guys a test of a streamer dac solely as a transport only makes no sense 🙄
I use the eversolo in my main system, as a transport . Looks great and works without flaws, wish it had sub out .. Wiim bought for second system great sub out, screen why bother it's awful quality, constant glitches some updates worked some did not, in the end sent back . Overall in sound the eversolo just had my vote, so no twice the price on sound wiim wins . Usability and for my requirements Eversolo wins ..
@@RAMIRO61FERNANDES I have not even used the WiiM correction, this is likely because I am always in the near field with the size of my room. Yes I use the WiiM EQ, but I have not run the built in correction, might do that tomorrow 🎼🎼🔊🔊
Thank you for the AB test. I am still trying to make a decision between buying one of these. What I heard is difficult to distinguish unless you’re hearing it live in that room. I love the A 6 for the sound, look, and screen ( which I think is redundant if one has an iPad ) My pocket says WIIM ultra but my heart says A6 😢😢😢😢
Eversolo DMP A6 se escucha ligeramente mejor q el Wimm Ultra. Entiendo q el Wimm Ultra Usa un Solo DAC para salida estereo Mientras el Eversolo usa el Mismo DAC pero por Cada Canal
Most of audiophiles already got DAC as good as Eversolo A6 or better. How about USB digital out sound quality comparison as pure streamer? Is Eversolo A6 still 3 times better or about same?
For me USB output from Ultra was better than DMP-a6. As well from RCA output. I paired it with Fosi v3 mono as dac/preamp. App In ultra is more stable and user friendly. Ultra has an auto standby and auto on when we want to play from Tidal Connect. Eversolo a6 sounds more digital comparing to little bit warm Ultra. Of course dac in Eversolo is better with higher resolution and imaging but still a way worse than external Topping d70s Dac. If Ultra would cost the same as Ultra I would still pick the Wiim Ultra. For stable Application more ears friendly sound and better functionality for my expectations.
With decent headphones, i really can not tell any difference, wich is a compliment for both devices. The eversolo wins on looks for me, also due to the xlr connections.
wiim renders voices in a more acceptable way and that is for me the ultimate decision because it's obsolete to have no matter how great unit if you can't listen your favourite vocal tracks because of excessive brightness
I think the Eversolo enhances the low frequencies a bit, which is more suitable for me. I have a Wiim Pro Plus which has room correction and does the same thing but boosts the low frequencies too much. So I listen to music without any correction.
The differences where so subtle between the two that I could hardly tell much difference they where subtle for me listening on youtube. Normaly I can tell A-B clearly on your channel. Maybe I will put on some headphones and listen again!
The Wiim output is thinner …the difference is there …better test both streamers outputting to one DAC ..truly assessing the streaming quality. I personally run a Wiim Pro into a Denafrips Ares 12-1 DAC ..and it’s pretty damn nice ..am I going to get BETTER sound using a different streamer (more expensive) …that’s the question. Have a great weekend.
Nice test. The Wiim is at least halve the price and almost the same. Also has usb to use the clock from the dac. Now try the Wiim with a the Mojo 2 or the FX Glass tube dac or Hiby RS6 or Powerdac BX or even the Cyan 2 as more expensive dac 🤔
If I need a streamer for transport because I have an external DAC (Chord Qutest), so I assume the Wiim will be enough, correct? The main difference between those two is the internal DAC (Eversolo has two) and the software which I guess helps reach the higher sound quality.
Main difference is that eversolo does not have ddc, so it is worthless for external dacs. Wiim far batter. And wiim has uncomparably better software and connections.
I havent and eversolo or Wiim streamer. Only a rose RB130 and I can’t hear any noticeable difference between booth DACs. Are the same dac inside this devices?? No matter what choice you do. Anyway always cheaper one! 😅
When you do sound comparisons try to do them without knowing 1. The brand 2. The price 3. What it looks like/feels like Do them completely blind and just listen and evaluate what you think about their sound. Then have someone reveal the products to you AFTER you've listened. Once you know price and brand etc it adds too much bias.
@@ronjetten6535 Yep, but I'm sure you'd know 1 other person. I know audiophiles are strange little people who live their lives in the sweet spot by themselves but surely they have 1 friend.
Only thing ok about the Wiim is it’s a floating earth design so if you have earthing issues and sensitive speakers it will have a noise benefit. The Eversolo models output earth noise, that’s my only issue with them though I’m sticking with my 8 despite that because it’s pros out way that 1 con.
I have the Ultra, still deciding…Anyone have hesitation or interruption, streaming Tidal? TV and Radio Paradise are not affected. Disabled Google dns per WiiM but still happening. Mostly pleased otherwise but thinking about the dnp8.
Hi, I had a similar issue with Bluesound Node. The issue was too weak wifi signal. are you using lan cable or wifi? if wifi buys even a cheap lan cable and checks if it drops connection
Smsl AO200 and HO200 ,wiim pro and SU-1 dac....now were talking great sound..Smsl su-1 dac is only $120 (Can) with akm chip..cant beat it for the price
I may have to agree Just got the Wiim Ultra today, I use it to replace my Sonos who really screwed up their apps lately. Very happy that the Wiim can play dsd, however, instantly, I noticed it does not sound as good as the 8 yrs old sonos. It's a little disappointing, not sure if it's the "break in" problem or what, I'll let it run for a few days to see They are both connected to the same ext. dac then to an integrated amp Anyone feels the same?
@@dannyb5874 I've had my hearing tested, and it's one of the best they tested, they said. There is no way I can hear any difference here. It's total audiophile BS, they make things up in their head and then believe in it!
I would normally agree with you but I did hear a difference on some tracks and it was the same difference. The eversolo seem to have more of a warmth...so slight in upper midrange while the Wiim seem more to be more airy and ever so slightly detailed in the upper frequencies. I would not even say one is better than the other either...just slightly different without engaging in the specifications of each brand. my .02
Video is misleading. There is no the same functionality in case of wiim and eversolo. There is no lfe connection with bass management in eversolo, there is also no analog in, arc in, DDC, and Chromecast - all this is crucial. Wiim is much better in case of functionality. Regarding audio quality - if price difference would be spent for external, much better dac (both wiim and eversolo are using ESS Sigma type), also audio quality would be better in case of wiim within the same price.I personally changed eversolo for much better wiim.
@SvenfromKiel They ere the same type. Both are simple cheap Delta Sigmas, nothing more. And even in fact the same chip. Air play should be removed from all audio equipment and whole market due to non acceptable low quality. Chromecast is non comparable better and more useful. And in case of eversolo a lot more important is android os and native apple music integration. But even more - functions of both are not comparable. Ssd is not needed in case of usb port. Display is beautiful, but nothing more.
@@trekkis this is not correct! Each channel using a DAC is more information getting through. This is the reason the DMP sounds more detailed and more open. Apple Airplay is losless and not 100% Hifi but more option here for many apple user. 2nd point is the integrated m2ssd which is quicker access than on a connected usb device because of the bus system. Regarding the display you can see easily the difference here. The only point for the Wiim is the good price here and the more compact size.
@@SvenfromKiel1 As before, and once again, Its a lot less important how many chips there are, still they are delta sigma and sound like delta sigma (and two chips even are not the reason of difference - there is no such difference in case of Topping dacs with one or two chips version - in direct comparison). Even if would be 10 of them, sill would be DS. Nothing more. 2. Air play is not lossles, it's aac about 256kbit. Not usable in any way. Both eversolo and wiim are directly informing how bad airplay is. BT even has a lot better quality than air play. And even Apple user can and should use tidal or other connect option. It would be totally absurd even speak about dac quality, using only aac. If you want to use better dac, better source is required. Aac is not enough. 3. Time of access to storage do not have any meaning, especially when application itself, and os itself are slow. Android has its pros, but also has a cons - os is slower, standby is a lot worse, connection with connect services is not fully stable. Large library management is slow and bad. Wiim with light Linux is working much better, faster, with better standby, connection and even library management. 4. Again, reading with understanding. I changed eversolo for wiim, and wiim is totally incomparable better due to bass management (and this in fact directly raises sound to different level), arc, and possibility to use far better dac in the same price (fpga or r2r, or allow to invest more for tube preamp, amp, sub, speakers or acoustic adaptation) But even in case of using internal dac, is simply not possible to achieve the same level of sound quality without bass management. It tried with eversolo long time - not possible. There must be sub in chain, and there must be digital cross management (analog within sub itself is useless) with proper low and high filters. Other methods or lack of sub are not acceptable. Unless of course if such bass management with proper cross is present in different chain component, but this is rare and not so universal.
@@trekkis don‘t agree here. 2 channels having each a DAC sounds different and has more details. This is simple logic and physic. Depends of course on your ears to get this or prefer a more muffled soft sound.. 2) my mistake as I have written this and here I see the same: not losless (sorry, my mistake). By the way airplay is not an option for me…I actually prefer toslink and use .flac + wav directly. 3) time access and disk management for my .flacs in folders is an important point for me and many other oldschool user which don‘t use tidal etc. For example if you switch to spotify and back to disk…would Wiim remember the last played song or folder? 4) reading and understanding…look in the mirror and please try to avoid arrogance. I mentioned also the larger display and the possibility to implement a internal SSD! a: good for older eye and b: This is always quicker access than an external solution which runs through another controller. Nice points you ignored. The other point is the bass management and understanding about indiv. expectations to a device in a hifi aspect. If I need more bass I would change speaker or cables to get the sound I need or use an external dac or use the integrated equalizer. From the „good price point“ I am with you. 5) At the end I came to the point that both devices are not what I want because there are too many compromises for me…I will first buy an external DAC like the SMSL SU-1 with the AKM 4493SEQ which sounds „for me“ significantly better. I listened also to a „Wiim Pro Plus“ in a short session and I was also impressed…same DAC by the way ..
Thanks for the audio review…helped me a lot. The evernote must be also better from the specs, because it uses for each channel the sabre dac. Wiim uses one sabre for both and has also less options..(no ssd integration, smaller display, no airplay). This is the 400€ difference maybe ;)
The sound quality is very similar, so the higher price of the Eversolo A6 is not justified over the Wiim Ultra. Always go for the cheaper option. Within 5 year time these products becomes worthless, like Sonos Connect a decade ago
Scrolling through these comments with these 2 playing, and into some pretty nice headphones, I heard absolutely no difference when they were switching back and forth.
The subdivision of all frequencies on Eversolo is much more detailed and marked. Obviously for the price the Wimm still remains an excellent product and makes many who purchase it happy. Those who want more detail, more precision in all the medium-high-low ranges and a more faithful rendering of the songs reproduced across the entire sound stage cannot fail to purchase the Eversolo DMP-A6. Obviously it also depends on your wallet and the quality of the amplifier you will connect and the speakers you will connect, as well as the cables and connectors you will use. Otherwise save up and get the Wimm Ultra, because if all the other components aren't up to par it's not worth spending more than double. 😉
Both of these will likely become obsolete in the market within 1 year -not because they won’t function anymore, but because better alternatives will be available at the same price. For me, it makes more sense to stick with the cheaper option.
@@SvenfromKiel I will answer that question later. After 1 year. Eversolo already has better model than A6 and i am sure we'll see new wiim in next 12 months.
@@01010100001010101001 we talk about the market now and you mentioned „will be available at the same price“…what comes in future is irrelevant for somebody who needs a DAC now….by now there are no alternatives in this price range..fact.
They will be obsolete for people who are looking for the next best thing. It probably makes more sense to get a good DAC and pair it up with the cheaper streamer.
99.5% of “audiophile” sound comparisons on UA-cam are utter contrived nonsense. You cannot hear a real difference because there is no real difference to hear. Both of these devices test to meet the transparency standard for DACS and that means by definition you cannot hear any difference that is real. You simply imagine nonsense and then try to justify it with meaningless terms like “warm” and “detailed”.
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I believe there is a big market out there for an affordable and qaulity music streamer transport with user friendly interface and great OS like the Ultra or Eversolo without DAC. Focus on clean power, noised filtered ethernet input and etc to make it a killer product.
I have both. They sound the same.
Which do you prefer for functionality?
They sound 99.9% the same on these samples
Just want to throw a quick thanks your way for taking the time to make these videos. So few of the “reviews” on UA-cam do anything more than tell you one person’s opinion. With these videos we get to draw our own conclusions, which is super cool.
Question is as transport alone for streamer? As you can see, your audience is focused on the streaming focus as many use an external DAC of their choice. Great channel but was surprised not to hear about this.
Great A and B comparison. Are you using an external DAC? The Eversolo sounds slightly better (over youtube). I just purchased the WiiM Ultra and am very happy with it. I would not spend the extra money on the Eversolo
I have the WiiM ultra and it sounds great, I love the EQ function.
This was a streamer DAC shootout, not a "Streamer" shootout. I would hope the DAC in the EverSolo sounded better, as it should. But, how about a streamer comparison? Sure, the Ultra is not a $1000 streamer, but for the money, as a streamer, it is going to be very hard to beat. Then the room correction, PEQ and EQ capabilities of the Wiim software, another major selling point. And yes I own one, along with a much better Volumio Rivo bridge streamer, using a Farad Super 3 LPS along with a Roon Nucleus One with the Sbooster LPS. And yes, it sounds better than the Ultra as a streamer. But not $2000 better.
Exactly . The reviewer missed the entire point
@@alexkane84 Agreed!!!
@@socratesliriano9852 To me, it is sounds 2000 dollars better than the Wiim Ultra./
The Wiim is quite good overall. just slightly softer on the leading edge. While the Eversolo is more solid presenting the instruments.
The soundstage on those speakers is phanominal!
realistically they both sound very good the Wiim is incredible value for money and i don't think anyone will be disappointed if they buy one nothing can touch it in that price bracket. for me its the A8 for the main system even over the hifi rose but the wiim all day for the garage/outdoor deck space, i used to just stream bluetooth from my phone around there and it was quite annoying if i went out of range, the wiim solves that and is a big leap in quality from that setup.
The Wiim might be just slightly veiled, but I don’t really hear $5 worth of difference.
VirtualHiFi, great content keep it up
Manufacturers should add ´streamers only´ to their range. Less parts but better quality and more digital outputs, no need for build in dacs, BT, screens (for me personal)...🙏
You asked for it, so I did it. $80 vs $8000 streamer with digital output only compared. very little difference in sound quality between them in $30000 system. I was extremely surprised.
@@dennisyi9038 I have no doubt but in fact this is not 100% my point. I´m saying it would be nice to have more ´streamers only´ with: sufficient digital outputs ( EBU + coax + optimale + usb + I2s) to match the most possible dacs, plug and play with a stable and easy to use app for IOS and Android, a nice form factor with metal housing (silver + black) finish, high quality power supply (smps or lps), price point between 500 and 1000$.
This would thik many boxes but please name one 😅
what do you think about using wiim pro and coax out?
@@pyntzer - I do with a RME ADI-2 and it's very good but I prefer optical glass toslink cable from a WiiM Pro which is better.
When I don't use USB and play streaming the WiiM Pro is very good with some additions: external 5v power supply, optical fiber with Cisco boxes. Very nice results via Audirvana.
I agree wholeheartedly!!! 🙌
The Wiim has a more relaxed presentation with less presence, some will prefer that. Great review 👌
The difference is as obvious as it is predictable. It would be more interesting to use the same external DAC on both.
in which parts is obvious ??
The difference is hardly noticable. For this price gap the Eversolo should sound way better.
I listened to the video twice. Through my highly revealing system and through my friends $1,500 iem's and there was about a 2% (completely random number😮) difference between the Wiim and the Eversolo. I run my Ultra through a Nad M51 dac and it sounds incredible. I had a Lumin t1 and it just wasn't worth the price. As long as it can be used as a Roon endpoint, it's good for me😊
There would unlikely be any audible difference. The implementation of that DAC is why there is a sound difference not the bit perfect streaming that can both do. Unless of course there was a major flaw in the design.
@@joecharpentier6636great comment, the differences can often be overplayed.
Great review. Thanks for sharing.
Another interesting test. Preferred the Eversolo but difference is not huge. Not sure if I could pick up on it doing a blind test. Wiim Ultra delivers tremendous value
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Can’t tell the difference, I like the wiim having a subwoofer output with bass management and room EQ 👍
16:26 I have my WiiM Ultra hooked up to the Marantz mm9000 and using the sub out on the ultra to run my Klipsch RSW-12 dual fire subwoofer. Marantz amp is running Klipsch rp-600m ii it's very good. And using the equalizer it will perform even better.
In my mind the big advantage of Eversolo is native Apple Music with hi-res, no muss no fuss. If you use other services the WiiM is probably good enough. If you want better performance from the Wiim you can always go down the external DAC rabbit hole.
Hello,
Thanks for this video 👍
Is there a difference between the two devices with an external dac ?
Which one is better because I would like to use it as a pure streamer with my dac?
Thanks in advance for your answer.
These comments of owners of either device are so tiring.... all subjective. And no guys a test of a streamer dac solely as a transport only makes no sense 🙄
I use the eversolo in my main system, as a transport . Looks great and works without flaws, wish it had sub out ..
Wiim bought for second system great sub out, screen why bother it's awful quality, constant glitches some updates worked some did not, in the end sent back .
Overall in sound the eversolo just had my vote, so no twice the price on sound wiim wins . Usability and for my requirements Eversolo wins ..
This is the review I’ve been looking for, thank you! And I agree, I definitely prefer the sound of the A6 in these samples.
Do you know if the Wiim sounds better than the Bluesound Node 130N? I can't decide between the two. Thank you in advance🙏🏼🎼🎵🎶
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On Wiin Ultra there is 6 Dac filters. What filter do you use? Equalization?
Good demonstration
I am team WiiM and at $329.00 US in my 10'x10' room thru Fosi V3Monos into Klipsch 600m ii (used at $150.00) is sublime. Currently without a sub.
Not dissing the Wiim (own a pro plus) but have found that the SMSL DO 100 pro elevates it a couple of notches YMMV
What filter Dac you use?
Do you use equalization or room correction?
@@RAMIRO61FERNANDES I have not even used the WiiM correction, this is likely because I am always in the near field with the size of my room. Yes I use the WiiM EQ, but I have not run the built in correction, might do that tomorrow 🎼🎼🔊🔊
I'm using the Ultra as a streamer only, USB out to SU-6 DDC then to Weiss 205 DAC. Sounds great for the money until I can upgrade.
Thank you for the AB test. I am still trying to make a decision between buying one of these.
What I heard is difficult to distinguish unless you’re hearing it live in that room.
I love the A 6 for the sound, look, and screen ( which I think is redundant if one has an iPad )
My pocket says WIIM ultra but my heart says A6
😢😢😢😢
You need the A6.....or you need to wait.
Eversolo DMP A6 se escucha ligeramente mejor q el Wimm Ultra. Entiendo q el Wimm Ultra Usa un Solo DAC para salida estereo Mientras el Eversolo usa el Mismo DAC pero por Cada Canal
Most of audiophiles already got DAC as good as Eversolo A6 or better. How about USB digital out sound quality comparison as pure streamer? Is Eversolo A6 still 3 times better or about same?
For me USB output from Ultra was better than DMP-a6. As well from RCA output. I paired it with Fosi v3 mono as dac/preamp. App In ultra is more stable and user friendly. Ultra has an auto standby and auto on when we want to play from Tidal Connect. Eversolo a6 sounds more digital comparing to little bit warm Ultra. Of course dac in Eversolo is better with higher resolution and imaging but still a way worse than external Topping d70s
Dac. If Ultra would cost the same as Ultra I would still pick the Wiim Ultra. For stable Application more ears friendly sound and better functionality for my expectations.
Good video ! Have you also compared these streamers with an external DAC?
With decent headphones, i really can not tell any difference, wich is a compliment for both devices. The eversolo wins on looks for me, also due to the xlr connections.
wiim renders voices in a more acceptable way and that is for me the ultimate decision because it's obsolete to have no matter how great unit if you can't listen your favourite vocal tracks because of excessive brightness
Thank you for the AB comparison. From this recording it sounds the same. I'm not sure how much different they are in person.
Very good job again! Keep do it. BR
How is this being recorded?
I think the Eversolo enhances the low frequencies a bit, which is more suitable for me. I have a Wiim Pro Plus which has room correction and does the same thing but boosts the low frequencies too much. So I listen to music without any correction.
To me the Ultra seemed to hit the notes well.Better pitch
The differences where so subtle between the two that I could hardly tell much difference they where subtle for me listening on youtube. Normaly I can tell A-B clearly on your channel. Maybe I will put on some headphones and listen again!
Now the Eversolo Dmp A8 makes quite a discernable difference 😮😊
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The Wiim output is thinner …the difference is there …better test both streamers outputting to one DAC ..truly assessing the streaming quality.
I personally run a Wiim Pro into a Denafrips Ares 12-1 DAC ..and it’s pretty damn nice ..am I going to get BETTER sound using a different streamer (more expensive) …that’s the question.
Have a great weekend.
When using USB connection to the DAC I doubt it…
If there is a minimal difference it may depend on the DAC, if you use a quality external DAC I think the differences do not exist.
Nice test. The Wiim is at least halve the price and almost the same. Also has usb to use the clock from the dac. Now try the Wiim with a the Mojo 2 or the FX Glass tube dac or Hiby RS6 or Powerdac BX or even the Cyan 2 as more expensive dac 🤔
It's impossibile to ear difference between sources on youtube.
Wiim ultra is a great value for price/quality.
Good test. Thank you. I'll buy an Eversolo DMP-A8 or Gustard X30.
Would somebody please do a comparison how these sound as a transport into a good dac. nobody is using built in dacs
Bass response is way better with the ever solo. Better midrange as well. The wiim is a bit shallow but still a great bargain.
For me the WiiM wins . Thx for this really helped me decide. ❤
I wonder why Wiim Ultra music streamer has not supported Airplay 2 connectivity for the best sound quality through wifi
Air play2 is the worst possible sound quality.
If I need a streamer for transport because I have an external DAC (Chord Qutest), so I assume the Wiim will be enough, correct? The main difference between those two is the internal DAC (Eversolo has two) and the software which I guess helps reach the higher sound quality.
Main difference is that eversolo does not have ddc, so it is worthless for external dacs. Wiim far batter. And wiim has uncomparably better software and connections.
This is bs, the eversolo is three times the price, but let me tell you i like the wiim more !!! Its much more natural. And for the money unbeatable !
The Eversolo A6 is just 2x more expensive!
@@SpaceEncounter 2 times, 2.5 times or 3 times dosnt matter, i like the wiim ultra more ! So its a bargain !!
I havent and eversolo or Wiim streamer. Only a rose RB130 and I can’t hear any noticeable difference between booth DACs. Are the same dac inside this devices?? No matter what choice you do. Anyway always cheaper one! 😅
Buy the Wiim Ultra and spend your money on the best Dac you can afford.
I would love to see a test with the Topping B200 to see/hear a comparison with the Fosi's you use
Test it with a 500€ DAC 😊
I really want to try a dmp-A6 and put it up against ifi Zen One signature, which I believe has a DAC that is way above its price point.
When you do sound comparisons try to do them without knowing
1. The brand
2. The price
3. What it looks like/feels like
Do them completely blind and just listen and evaluate what you think about their sound.
Then have someone reveal the products to you AFTER you've listened.
Once you know price and brand etc it adds too much bias.
Kinda tough when you’re a solo reviewer, isn’t it?
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Yep, but I'm sure you'd know 1 other person.
I know audiophiles are strange little people who live their lives in the sweet spot by themselves but surely they have 1 friend.
I wish they come out with a pure streamer with storage hd port, cool screen, dab radio and usb for cd player. I2s would be also accepted 😅
I’m very curious how they compare just as streamers
Only thing ok about the Wiim is it’s a floating earth design so if you have earthing issues and sensitive speakers it will have a noise benefit. The Eversolo models output earth noise, that’s my only issue with them though I’m sticking with my 8 despite that because it’s pros out way that 1 con.
I have the Ultra, still deciding…Anyone have hesitation or interruption, streaming Tidal? TV and Radio Paradise are not affected. Disabled Google dns per WiiM but still happening. Mostly pleased otherwise but thinking about the dnp8.
Hi, I had a similar issue with Bluesound Node. The issue was too weak wifi signal. are you using lan cable or wifi?
if wifi buys even a cheap lan cable and checks if it drops connection
Smsl AO200 and HO200 ,wiim pro and SU-1 dac....now were talking great sound..Smsl su-1 dac is only $120 (Can) with akm chip..cant beat it for the price
I may have to agree
Just got the Wiim Ultra today, I use it to replace my Sonos who really screwed up their apps lately.
Very happy that the Wiim can play dsd, however, instantly, I noticed it does not sound as good as the 8 yrs old sonos.
It's a little disappointing, not sure if it's the "break in" problem or what, I'll let it run for a few days to see
They are both connected to the same ext. dac then to an integrated amp
Anyone feels the same?
They sound identical! There's no one that could tell those apart in a blind test.
I can't hear a freaking difference :) people must have bats ears :D
@@dannyb5874 I've had my hearing tested, and it's one of the best they tested, they said. There is no way I can hear any difference here. It's total audiophile BS, they make things up in their head and then believe in it!
@@dannyb5874 there's no way people could reliably tell those apart, uninformed to them.
@@dannyb5874I absolutely agree from what I heard too
I would normally agree with you but I did hear a difference on some tracks and it was the same difference. The eversolo seem to have more of a warmth...so slight in upper midrange while the Wiim seem more to be more airy and ever so slightly detailed in the upper frequencies. I would not even say one is better than the other either...just slightly different without engaging in the specifications of each brand. my .02
Only "if" you were going to step up the dac, which external dac would you think is near or below the $250.00 range, if any?
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Eversolo A6
The DMP a6 is more like twice the price of the wiim ultra. You must have gotten the master edition.
Video is misleading. There is no the same functionality in case of wiim and eversolo. There is no lfe connection with bass management in eversolo, there is also no analog in, arc in, DDC, and Chromecast - all this is crucial. Wiim is much better in case of functionality. Regarding audio quality - if price difference would be spent for external, much better dac (both wiim and eversolo are using ESS Sigma type), also audio quality would be better in case of wiim within the same price.I personally changed eversolo for much better wiim.
Not the same..Wiim uses the sabre dac for both Channel…Evernote one for each channel…with also bigger display and ssd integration, airplay.
@SvenfromKiel They ere the same type. Both are simple cheap Delta Sigmas, nothing more. And even in fact the same chip. Air play should be removed from all audio equipment and whole market due to non acceptable low quality. Chromecast is non comparable better and more useful. And in case of eversolo a lot more important is android os and native apple music integration. But even more - functions of both are not comparable.
Ssd is not needed in case of usb port. Display is beautiful, but nothing more.
@@trekkis this is not correct! Each channel using a DAC is more information getting through. This is the reason the DMP sounds more detailed and more open. Apple Airplay is losless and not 100% Hifi but more option here for many apple user. 2nd point is the integrated m2ssd which is quicker access than on a connected usb device because of the bus system. Regarding the display you can see easily the difference here. The only point for the Wiim is the good price here and the more compact size.
@@SvenfromKiel1 As before, and once again, Its a lot less important how many chips there are, still they are delta sigma and sound like delta sigma (and two chips even are not the reason of difference - there is no such difference in case of Topping dacs with one or two chips version - in direct comparison). Even if would be 10 of them, sill would be DS. Nothing more.
2. Air play is not lossles, it's aac about 256kbit. Not usable in any way. Both eversolo and wiim are directly informing how bad airplay is. BT even has a lot better quality than air play. And even Apple user can and should use tidal or other connect option. It would be totally absurd even speak about dac quality, using only aac. If you want to use better dac, better source is required. Aac is not enough.
3. Time of access to storage do not have any meaning, especially when application itself, and os itself are slow. Android has its pros, but also has a cons - os is slower, standby is a lot worse, connection with connect services is not fully stable. Large library management is slow and bad. Wiim with light Linux is working much better, faster, with better standby, connection and even library management.
4. Again, reading with understanding. I changed eversolo for wiim, and wiim is totally incomparable better due to bass management (and this in fact directly raises sound to different level), arc, and possibility to use far better dac in the same price (fpga or r2r, or allow to invest more for tube preamp, amp, sub, speakers or acoustic adaptation) But even in case of using internal dac, is simply not possible to achieve the same level of sound quality without bass management. It tried with eversolo long time - not possible. There must be sub in chain, and there must be digital cross management (analog within sub itself is useless) with proper low and high filters. Other methods or lack of sub are not acceptable. Unless of course if such bass management with proper cross is present in different chain component, but this is rare and not so universal.
@@trekkis don‘t agree here. 2 channels having each a DAC sounds different and has more details. This is simple logic and physic. Depends of course on your ears to get this or prefer a more muffled soft sound..
2) my mistake as I have written this and here I see the same: not losless (sorry, my mistake). By the way airplay is not an option for me…I actually prefer toslink and use .flac + wav directly.
3) time access and disk management for my .flacs in folders is an important point for me and many other oldschool user which don‘t use tidal etc. For example if you switch to spotify and back to disk…would Wiim remember the last played song or folder?
4) reading and understanding…look in the mirror and please try to avoid arrogance. I mentioned also the larger display and the possibility to implement a internal SSD! a: good for older eye and b: This is always quicker access than an external solution which runs through another controller. Nice points you ignored. The other point is the bass management and understanding about indiv. expectations to a device in a hifi aspect. If I need more bass I would change speaker or cables to get the sound I need or use an external dac or use the integrated equalizer. From the „good price point“ I am with you.
5) At the end I came to the point that both devices are not what I want because there are too many compromises for me…I will first buy an external DAC like the SMSL SU-1 with the AKM 4493SEQ which sounds „for me“ significantly better. I listened also to a „Wiim Pro Plus“ in a short session and I was also impressed…same DAC by the way ..
hell no for 3x the price for 0.05% better
En mi opinión el A6 suena más que ese porcentaje que comentas. Sobre todo en la zona baja, la zona baja es más limpia.
Οf you want to hear if there is any difference simply do not look the video only the sound .!!!!!! And take the results
Eversolo a little wider sound stage, but not much, not worth 3 times the price.
Listening on my Dac, amp and loudspeakers (home made).
Thanks for the audio review…helped me a lot. The evernote must be also better from the specs, because it uses for each channel the sabre dac. Wiim uses one sabre for both and has also less options..(no ssd integration, smaller display, no airplay). This is the 400€ difference maybe ;)
The sound quality is very similar, so the higher price of the Eversolo A6 is not justified over the Wiim Ultra. Always go for the cheaper option. Within 5 year time these products becomes worthless, like Sonos Connect a decade ago
Anyone earing any differences in any track is having hallucinations...
If there were no labels on which one is being used, they won't be able to tell which one is better.
Scrolling through these comments with these 2 playing, and into some pretty nice headphones, I heard absolutely no difference when they were switching back and forth.
I couldn't tell the difference.
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szczególnie że to rodak
The subdivision of all frequencies on Eversolo is much more detailed and marked. Obviously for the price the Wimm still remains an excellent product and makes many who purchase it happy. Those who want more detail, more precision in all the medium-high-low ranges and a more faithful rendering of the songs reproduced across the entire sound stage cannot fail to purchase the Eversolo DMP-A6. Obviously it also depends on your wallet and the quality of the amplifier you will connect and the speakers you will connect, as well as the cables and connectors you will use. Otherwise save up and get the Wimm Ultra, because if all the other components aren't up to par it's not worth spending more than double. 😉
Both of these will likely become obsolete in the market within 1 year -not because they won’t function anymore, but because better alternatives will be available at the same price. For me, it makes more sense to stick with the cheaper option.
Which „alternatives“?
@@SvenfromKiel I will answer that question later. After 1 year. Eversolo already has better model than A6 and i am sure we'll see new wiim in next 12 months.
@@01010100001010101001 we talk about the market now and you mentioned „will be available at the same price“…what comes in future is irrelevant for somebody who needs a DAC now….by now there are no alternatives in this price range..fact.
They will be obsolete for people who are looking for the next best thing. It probably makes more sense to get a good DAC and pair it up with the cheaper streamer.
@@cli6389-p4k yes, in the meantime I bought a SMSL SU1 DAC and stream via my old Imac to an active speaker...I don't miss anything .
Learn how to use it. Has options to get better sound
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99.5% of “audiophile” sound comparisons on UA-cam are utter contrived nonsense.
You cannot hear a real difference because there is no real difference to hear.
Both of these devices test to meet the transparency standard for DACS and that means by definition you cannot hear any difference that is real.
You simply imagine nonsense and then try to justify it with meaningless terms like “warm” and “detailed”.
False.
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the A6 is more 3D and more detail
Thanks for sharing :)