I'm a 69 year old male. Six months ago I had a medical emergency and spent a few days in the hospital. Due to this quick brush with my own mortality, I found myself feeling very spiritual and "open" as I came home from hospital. On Easter morning (four days after the medical event) I saw Godspell for the first time, on TCM. It was Easter morning. It's impossible to describe the emotional impact that wonderful film had on me - and still does. I basically cried with joy thru the entire viewing. This from a fellow who cries maybe three times a year. Needless to say, I fell in love with the entire cast - but especially the beautiful Robin. Thank you Robin for your presence in the film and thank you Pat for this fabulous interview.
Ah, Harry, great to hear you've come around from the health scare and was given a gift like you described. Spirituality and purpose derived from art is as important as the religious overtones.
I've been looking a long time for interviews with someone, anyone from the cast of the movie Godspell. I'm just so glad it was Robin. You scored a great interview.
I was 10 yrs old when the Jesus Movement reached my neighborhood in Detroit in 1973. A group of young people would go around to the different neighborhood parks, witnessing the Gospel of Jesus. I didn't know it at 10 yrs old but, I was born again! Sees were planted!! I went to Catholic schools and we had a young Peoples choir group when I was in grammar school. I was part of the e sang Day By Day often and many other popular songs of that time, not the usual hymnal sons. Then in 1977, in 9th grade, we put on the stage production of Godspell!! It was O AWESOME!! So many people loved it, te actually demanded we do another weekend!! It was the highlight of my high school experience!! Thank you for this interview. Brought back so many great memories!
Robin Lamont put Day by Day on the longevity map. The song has a similar style and time frame reminiscent of Carole King, who was still riding the airwaves of Tapestry.
I have been playing "Day By Day" over and over, as it is stuck in my head. What a great voice! I also love the lyrics. I think most young men of the time found Robin..."captivating". :-)
Every so often I wake up Singing that Song, I REALLY DO I DO. It helps yo put Joy in Jesus, Joy in going to Church Singing aside go doing a slight jig in the hallway. I'm 66 n grew up during that time frame. THANK YOU FOR THE SONG.
Same here pal. Watched Godspell couple of weeks ago and remembered the crush I had with Robin in the 80s when I watched the movie, jeje. Great, charming movie by the way. Loved to see the good ol New York and the towers. Cheers
i was at Point Park University in downtown Pittsburgh, just down the road from Carnegie Mellon (CMU) in the mid-70s, when Day By Day was a national hit song. We were always proud of the talented CMU theatrical majors, Robin Lamont included and of course Jeff Goldblum, Andy Warhol and Ted Danson. REALLY ENJOYED THAT INTERVIEW. THANKS SO SO VERY MUCH. TGC
I remember when I was a little girl-I hadn’t watched the movie yet, but girls in my class were singing Day by Day-and I just fell in love with the song without even knowing where it came from!
ROBIN LAMONT IS EXTRENELY TALENTED INTELLIGENT AND VERY BEAUTIFUL INSIDE AND OUTSIDE SHE HAS A LAW DEGREE ,SHES A SINGER ACTRESS AUTHOR DISTRICT ATTORNEY AND PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR SHE IS ALSO AN ANIMAL RIGHTS ACTIVIST SHE IS AMAZING
The first time I saw Godspell was on a local TV station in San Francisco. An interesting fact is that the movie typically aired during religious holidays. Thanksgiving, Christmas, Good Friday, and Easter.
I was surprised to see Lynne Thigpen, who's lived in my head for decades as "the female James Earl Jones" for her commanding voice, as a young ingenue in Godspell.
I think she was tremendously appealing and beautiful in the movie. But - thanks be to God - she did not "turn me on", so I was able to really "get it" with her playing in the movie. Most of the songs in which I see divine purpose (the work of the Holy Spirit) are from men, with women the hormones (mine and theirs) nearly always get in the way. I don't know for sure if I should apologise or congratulate, but with Robin (though she IS an attractive woman), what came through to me most was the untainted spirituality, beauty, purity, joy and innoncene of it. Just as it was meant to be. So her singing "Day by Day" is a wonderful, truly spiritual thing for me, and it makes me feel very close to her, I must say. The Holy Spirit was with her, whether she realised it or not.
Wondered who Robin's role in the production correlated to Jesus' actual disciples or even inner circle of followers. "Day by Day" is a brilliant song that teaches about how to become intimate with God. I was drawn to Robin's relationship with Jesus in the production which certainly seemed to demonstrate a Devotee's love for The Master!!!
Agreed, when she looks at him (Him), we in the audience can, through the Holy Spirit, discern something that the Holy Spirit himself imbued into the song and its singing.
Try listening to the preaching and teaching of Wm. Paul Young and C. Baxter Kruger. There IS a movement building, led by the Holy Spirit and men like Wm. Paul Young, Brad Jersak (spelled?), and more.
8:45 2nd person from the left. Seriously? Gyrating and swinging body 1 foot from the edge? Seriously?? Maybe the dropoff was 6 inches with mattresses placed and safety rails. But maybe not! This isn't the polished, safety pure public observation deck. And as she says a perhaps still under construction building, so !! Seriously? Gyrating and swinging body 1 foot from the edge?!
@@patuberTV Thanks for being so amazing as to hunt down and assemble this at all! Very well done! Every since the movie piece or video on that, with those eyes of hers staring at Victor at the very start, she's owned me, by the way ;) And the backstory of her "anonymous yet massive" fame - wow. WTG.
As someone who is so afraid of heights that I had to close my eyes during that segment, I can tell you that the terror of being in that situation is exactly how Robin describes it. What you consider embellished is the perception of those who have lived through their trauma.
@@patuberTV - I was a bit disappointed with the edit at that spot and wondered if she may have complained about not being credited on the single. Rightfully so as that would be unheard of today.
I thought she would be more charismatic and mystical you know like who do you say that I am after all singing to our Lord the Christian faith is all spiritual has nothing to do with religion. I'm disappointed that she didn't go on with the Divinity of Jesus not by might not by power but by the spirit sayeth the Lord
There are many levels of spirituality ... we all must seek our own, with our inspirations. I don't know how you could do that work the number of times she did it without creating divinity. Thanks for watching.
It's a great comment, and John, and one that for example might apply to Robert Powell or Jim Caviezel, who both played Jesus. Powell had a "complex" situation for years after, perhaps through to today, as he did sort of get it while doing it, but also wanted to keep working aftewards and not be type-cast. The Polish actor Piotr Adamczyk played his compatriot Pope John Paul II in 2 movies and really seemed to be like him - a problem for the actor who was keen to play comedy roles, and for example to pursue crude humour from time to time. In each case, the actors are doing a job, which takes a long time (with re-shoots) and is hard, at times tedious work. It would be hard (though surely not impossible) to acquire, maintain and retain for longer periods spirituality on that basis, even if we do seem to see itwhen Robin looks at Victor as they sing "Day by Day". But then we are the audience, and we see (and "see") what they don't! The beloved Holy Spirit is enigmatic (as Jesus told us) and active, but for Him the life-versus-art boundary is very blurred. But of course He wants to inject God's meaning and love and truth and mercy; and inspires artists in that direction. But the beneficiaries may or may not be participants in the film-making (who may not even realise the transcendance they are achieving). It is entirely possible that Schwartz in his play at least (even David Greene in the movie) wanted to parody and play games with The New Testament, but of course the Spirit will NOT permit that, at least not in a piece of art that helps God work His purpose out. This is after all a movie in which Jesus and Disciples are clowns who naturally do zany and silly things, as well as various 1970s-type things. It would be easy for it to achieve nothing much at all... But what is the overall impression? For millions of us divine, moving, thrilling, a source of joy and religious inspiration. People turn to Jesus, and stay with Jesus, because of it. It may well be that Shakespeare was reached by the Holy Spirit too, even though his plays are not very overtly religious. But still, in Henry V he wrote: O for a Muse of fire, that would ascend the brightest heaven of invention. A kingdom for a stage, princes to act, and monarchs to behold the swelling scene! (the Holy Spirit can take the form of fire, and if we ascend the brightest heaven we transcend into divinity) "But pardon, and gentles all, the flat unraised spirits that have dared on this unworthy scaffold to bring forth so great an object: can this cockpit hold the vasty fields of France? or may we cram within this wooden "O" the very casques rhat did affright the air at Agincourt? (interesting that Shakespeare recognised that actors might also be spirits who COULD be raised - and of course the raiser of artistic spirits is the Holy Spirit "O, pardon! since a crooked figure may attest in little place a million; and let us, ciphers to this great accompt, on your imaginary forces work" The actors in "Godspell" were - at minimum - ciphers (numbers) in the great accompt (account), and they were pretty good at working on our imaginary forces. Through the Holy Spirit, Christianity benefited, new people became Christians out in the real world. But not necessarily those who "put on that play"
They forgot about me. Today's genie cuffing is by banquet the roast beef genies of Shazan or Shazam by their cuffed by bobsledding accident over those park ticket authority over slippery Plank's by ski accident amber alerted
@@beckyenglish4783 her Sesame Street schedule conflicted with the movie filming schedule so she couldn’t make it. I’m sure children’s TV wasn’t where she planned on being but she’s made a major difference in generations of people’s lives
@@nedhill1242 Oh, IDK, maybe because it depicts Jesus as a superhero clown who get crucified on a chain link fence at a junk yard? If that's not mocking Jesus, then what is?
@@jamesgeis It was the 1970s. It’s like a hippie version of Jesus Christ superstar. The guy that wrote it did it as a masters thesis in grad school. He got the part about them being clowns from a book he read. Think about clowns back in the day. The fool the jester. It’s a hippie version a early 1970s version of the passion of Christ or Jesus Christ superstar. We can’t look at these things from today’s modern perspective. You have to put it in the context and understand the times that it was written and performed. Remember, Jesus was treated like a common criminal. he was treated worse than a common criminal in fact. Godspell is absolutely is celebrating Jesus and his teachings. The entire entire play, which was then turned into a movie is a series of parables put to music. Jesus as Superman is completely completely appropriate. Remember this is Art. You have to understand parables analogies and metaphor. Rock music has obscure lyrics that you have to interpret because they want you to think about it. It’s not country music where they spell it out like a kindergarten story.
@@nedhill1242 That's quite a stretch. If you want to think that Jesus being portrayed as a clown who is crucified on a chain link fence at a junkyard isn't a mockery of Jesus, then that's on you.
@@jamesgeis And if you wanna have a very narrowminded organized religion view of what you think Christianity is then that’s on you. Again, how old are you? Clearly you don’t understand the climate of the early 70s. It was a very innocent time. It was hippies and flower children And Jesus, in fact, would be far more pleased with this then modern organized religion. I can promise you that. And if I need to explain that to you, then you don’t understand Jesus and Christianity. Jesus and Christianity is not the church. In fact, the church is often everything that is wrong with modern Christianity. Because the church is not Christianity.
I'm a 69 year old male. Six months ago I had a medical emergency and spent a few days in the hospital. Due to this quick brush with my own mortality, I found myself feeling very spiritual and "open" as I came home from hospital. On Easter morning (four days after the medical event) I saw Godspell for the first time, on TCM. It was Easter morning. It's impossible to describe the emotional impact that wonderful film had on me - and still does. I basically cried with joy thru the entire viewing. This from a fellow who cries maybe three times a year. Needless to say, I fell in love with the entire cast - but especially the beautiful Robin. Thank you Robin for your presence in the film and thank you Pat for this fabulous interview.
Ah, Harry, great to hear you've come around from the health scare and was given a gift like you described. Spirituality and purpose derived from art is as important as the religious overtones.
I've been looking a long time for interviews with someone, anyone from the cast of the movie Godspell. I'm just so glad it was Robin. You scored a great interview.
THANKS Paul! Pure luck and the loveliness of the greatest DAY BY DAY veteran!
I was 10 yrs old when the Jesus Movement reached my neighborhood in Detroit in 1973. A group of young people would go around to the different neighborhood parks, witnessing the Gospel of Jesus. I didn't know it at 10 yrs old but, I was born again! Sees were planted!! I went to Catholic schools and we had a young Peoples choir group when I was in grammar school. I was part of the e sang Day By Day often and many other popular songs of that time, not the usual hymnal sons. Then in 1977, in 9th grade, we put on the stage production of Godspell!! It was O AWESOME!! So many people loved it, te actually demanded we do another weekend!! It was the highlight of my high school experience!! Thank you for this interview. Brought back so many great memories!
Robin Lamont put Day by Day on the longevity map. The song has a similar style and time frame reminiscent of Carole King, who was still riding the airwaves of Tapestry.
Excellent, my fellow Robin!!!!
Love this. Robin....you are so humble. You are a musical theater and pop music icon!
I have been playing "Day By Day" over and over, as it is stuck in my head. What a great voice! I also love the lyrics. I think most young men of the time found Robin..."captivating". :-)
She's so humble about that aspect of her admiration. Add me to the list. Thanks for watching.
Omg how wonderful it is to see her! I love her voice!
Great interview. Robin's performance in Godspell particularly in delivering Day by Day was incredible!
Thanks for watching.
3 things definitely worth praying for! May we all do so every day!
Every so often I wake up Singing that Song, I REALLY DO I DO. It helps yo put Joy in Jesus, Joy in going to Church Singing aside go doing a slight jig in the hallway. I'm 66 n grew up during that time frame. THANK YOU FOR THE SONG.
It's a gift to the universe.
This is great. Always wondered what happened to her and where she is now. Always loved her voice. Thanks for this upload Pat.
Thank YOU Ben, she's a treasure.
Same here pal. Watched Godspell couple of weeks ago and remembered the crush I had with Robin in the 80s when I watched the movie, jeje. Great, charming movie by the way. Loved to see the good ol New York and the towers. Cheers
@@cyberpolo1152 Cheers to you!
I concur.
I love you Robin, fell in love with you watching Godspell in the 70’s …. Still in love ❤❤❤❤with
What a privilege to be identified with that incredible song.
what a gem!! where has time gone....ty for this interview priceless
Thanks a lot! Very nice.
i was at Point Park University in downtown Pittsburgh, just down the road from Carnegie Mellon (CMU) in the mid-70s, when Day By Day was a national hit song. We were always proud of the talented CMU theatrical majors, Robin Lamont included and of course Jeff Goldblum, Andy Warhol and Ted Danson. REALLY ENJOYED THAT INTERVIEW. THANKS SO SO VERY MUCH. TGC
Thanks for the kind words, TC.
Robin is beautiful...thanks for the upload.
She's a treasure. Thanks for watching.
Robin Lamont is truly an inspiration! I enjoy listening to her song Day By Day as well as the movie! 🙂
Thanks for watching.
i was only 4 years old then and was touched by this magical experience.
Day by day, day by day. Oh dear lord these 1970, 3 things I pray.
Such a beautiful voice, and person! And Pat, great interview! Robin you are such an inspiration to all - thank you!!❤️💐🌅
Thanks for watching.
She is so cool…great postive vibes!
I remember when I was a little girl-I hadn’t watched the movie yet, but girls in my class were singing Day by Day-and I just fell in love with the song without even knowing where it came from!
i.e. 13th-century England (St. Richard of Chichester).
Isn't that also kind of wonderful?
ROBIN LAMONT IS EXTRENELY TALENTED INTELLIGENT AND VERY BEAUTIFUL INSIDE AND OUTSIDE SHE HAS A LAW DEGREE ,SHES A SINGER ACTRESS AUTHOR DISTRICT ATTORNEY AND PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR
SHE IS ALSO AN ANIMAL RIGHTS ACTIVIST
SHE IS AMAZING
The first time I saw Godspell was on a local TV station in San Francisco. An interesting fact is that the movie typically aired during religious holidays. Thanksgiving, Christmas, Good Friday, and Easter.
day by day - beautiful song !
Great interview. Thanks so much for the upload. Cheers
Cheers to you!
love you robin
congratulations for his greatest performance
My favourite musical ♡♡♡
Ever since I watched the Godspell movie for the first time as a kid, I've had a crush on Robin and Joanne Jonas. 😁
I was surprised to see Lynne Thigpen, who's lived in my head for decades as "the female James Earl Jones" for her commanding voice, as a young ingenue in Godspell.
She was such a talent and cutie
Wow thank you for the great interview we would sing day by day at school at st. Pats in vancouver bc so inspirational! Thanks robin!
THANKS for watching.
Wow! That was incredible!
65 yrs old “ to be a better person Day by Day” ❤
I am STILL in love with this woman!!
I think she was tremendously appealing and beautiful in the movie.
But - thanks be to God - she did not "turn me on", so I was able to really "get it" with her playing in the movie.
Most of the songs in which I see divine purpose (the work of the Holy Spirit) are from men, with women the hormones (mine and theirs) nearly always get in the way.
I don't know for sure if I should apologise or congratulate, but with Robin (though she IS an attractive woman), what came through to me most was the untainted spirituality, beauty, purity, joy and innoncene of it.
Just as it was meant to be.
So her singing "Day by Day" is a wonderful, truly spiritual thing for me, and it makes me feel very close to her, I must say.
The Holy Spirit was with her, whether she realised it or not.
Awesome. Thanks !!
A quality interview.
Thanks for watching!
Very great stuff!
Thanks Scott!
My favorite 💕
Neat to hear this background
This was really interesting. Thank you. I ended up here by way of the UA-cam rabbit hole, after seeing Robin's spitting image on Schmigadoon season 2.
Thanks for watching.
Wondered who Robin's role in the production correlated to Jesus' actual disciples or even inner circle of followers. "Day by Day" is a brilliant song that teaches about how to become intimate with God. I was drawn to Robin's relationship with Jesus in the production which certainly seemed to demonstrate a Devotee's love for The Master!!!
What rubbish.You don't need songs or some fake so called religious books to ever know God.
@@chetyoubetya8565 First comment I read. Exact same arguments that took me back to 1973.
Agreed, when she looks at him (Him), we in the audience can, through the Holy Spirit, discern something that the Holy Spirit himself imbued into the song and its singing.
I wish the Jesus movement would come back
If people actually followed his teaching it might but right now…
Try listening to the preaching and teaching of Wm. Paul Young and C. Baxter Kruger. There IS a movement building, led by the Holy Spirit and men like Wm. Paul Young, Brad Jersak (spelled?), and more.
I never would have recognized Victor Garber
was ending the video at 9:11 intentional?
Wowsa no. Eerie. Thanks for listening.
I’ve only watched a minute of this, but she’s an attorney now, right
Author and attorney, yes.
I'm sure the stairway behind her goes to heaven.
Gregg Focker brought me here
8:45 2nd person from the left. Seriously? Gyrating and swinging body 1 foot from the edge? Seriously??
Maybe the dropoff was 6 inches with mattresses placed and safety rails.
But maybe not! This isn't the polished, safety pure public observation deck. And as she says a perhaps still under construction building, so !!
Seriously? Gyrating and swinging body 1 foot from the edge?!
Hahahaha Thanks for watching.
@@patuberTV Thanks for being so amazing as to hunt down and assemble this at all! Very well done! Every since the movie piece or video on that, with those eyes of hers staring at Victor at the very start, she's owned me, by the way ;)
And the backstory of her "anonymous yet massive" fame - wow. WTG.
@@Bill_Woo Yeah the the single was credited to "Godspell" and not her and peaked at 13 on the Hot 100! Appreciate the compliment.
As someone who is so afraid of heights that I had to close my eyes during that segment, I can tell you that the terror of being in that situation is exactly how Robin describes it. What you consider embellished is the perception of those who have lived through their trauma.
@@patuberTV - I was a bit disappointed with the edit at that spot and wondered if she may have complained about not being credited on the single. Rightfully so as that would be unheard of today.
aging sucks.
She doesn't look that bad how old are you
I thought she would be more charismatic and mystical you know like who do you say that I am after all singing to our Lord the Christian faith is all spiritual has nothing to do with religion. I'm disappointed that she didn't go on with the Divinity of Jesus not by might not by power but by the spirit sayeth the Lord
There are many levels of spirituality ... we all must seek our own, with our inspirations. I don't know how you could do that work the number of times she did it without creating divinity. Thanks for watching.
It's a great comment, and John, and one that for example might apply to Robert Powell or Jim Caviezel, who both played Jesus. Powell had a "complex" situation for years after, perhaps through to today, as he did sort of get it while doing it, but also wanted to keep working aftewards and not be type-cast. The Polish actor Piotr Adamczyk played his compatriot Pope John Paul II in 2 movies and really seemed to be like him - a problem for the actor who was keen to play comedy roles, and for example to pursue crude humour from time to time. In each case, the actors are doing a job, which takes a long time (with re-shoots) and is hard, at times tedious work. It would be hard (though surely not impossible) to acquire, maintain and retain for longer periods spirituality on that basis, even if we do seem to see itwhen Robin looks at Victor as they sing "Day by Day".
But then we are the audience, and we see (and "see") what they don't!
The beloved Holy Spirit is enigmatic (as Jesus told us) and active, but for Him the life-versus-art boundary is very blurred. But of course He wants to inject God's meaning and love and truth and mercy; and inspires artists in that direction. But the beneficiaries may or may not be participants in the film-making (who may not even realise the transcendance they are achieving). It is entirely possible that Schwartz in his play at least (even David Greene in the movie) wanted to parody and play games with The New Testament, but of course the Spirit will NOT permit that, at least not in a piece of art that helps God work His purpose out. This is after all a movie in which Jesus and Disciples are clowns who naturally do zany and silly things, as well as various 1970s-type things. It would be easy for it to achieve nothing much at all...
But what is the overall impression? For millions of us divine, moving, thrilling, a source of joy and religious inspiration. People turn to Jesus, and stay with Jesus, because of it.
It may well be that Shakespeare was reached by the Holy Spirit too, even though his plays are not very overtly religious. But still, in Henry V he wrote:
O for a Muse of fire, that would ascend the brightest heaven of invention. A kingdom for a stage, princes to act, and monarchs to behold the swelling scene!
(the Holy Spirit can take the form of fire, and if we ascend the brightest heaven we transcend into divinity)
"But pardon, and gentles all, the flat unraised spirits that have dared on this unworthy scaffold to bring forth so great an object: can this cockpit hold the vasty fields of France? or may we cram within this wooden "O" the very casques rhat did affright the air at Agincourt?
(interesting that Shakespeare recognised that actors might also be spirits who COULD be raised - and of course the raiser of artistic spirits is the Holy Spirit
"O, pardon! since a crooked figure may attest in little place a million; and let us, ciphers to this great accompt, on your imaginary forces work"
The actors in "Godspell" were - at minimum - ciphers (numbers) in the great accompt (account), and they were pretty good at working on our imaginary forces. Through the Holy Spirit, Christianity benefited, new people became Christians out in the real world. But not necessarily those who "put on that play"
They forgot about me. Today's genie cuffing is by banquet the roast beef genies of Shazan or Shazam by their cuffed by bobsledding accident over those park ticket authority over slippery Plank's by ski accident amber alerted
Sonia Manzano aka Maria on Sesame Street
Really..? I had no idea!
@@beckyenglish4783 her Sesame Street schedule conflicted with the movie filming schedule so she couldn’t make it. I’m sure children’s TV wasn’t where she planned on being but she’s made a major difference in generations of people’s lives
Robin Lamont clearly didn't know that she was in a movie that was making a mockery of Jesus.
Don’t be ridiculous!
Gods Pell celebrates Jesus. Where do you people get such nonsense?!
@@nedhill1242 Oh, IDK, maybe because it depicts Jesus as a superhero clown who get crucified on a chain link fence at a junk yard? If that's not mocking Jesus, then what is?
@@jamesgeis
It was the 1970s. It’s like a hippie version of Jesus Christ superstar. The guy that wrote it did it as a masters thesis in grad school. He got the part about them being clowns from a book he read. Think about clowns back in the day. The fool the jester. It’s a hippie version a early 1970s version of the passion of Christ or Jesus Christ superstar. We can’t look at these things from today’s modern perspective. You have to put it in the context and understand the times that it was written and performed. Remember, Jesus was treated like a common criminal. he was treated worse than a common criminal in fact. Godspell is absolutely is celebrating Jesus and his teachings. The entire entire play, which was then turned into a movie is a series of parables put to music.
Jesus as Superman is completely completely appropriate. Remember this is Art. You have to understand parables analogies and metaphor. Rock music has obscure lyrics that you have to interpret because they want you to think about it. It’s not country music where they spell it out like a kindergarten story.
@@nedhill1242 That's quite a stretch. If you want to think that Jesus being portrayed as a clown who is crucified on a chain link fence at a junkyard isn't a mockery of Jesus, then that's on you.
@@jamesgeis
And if you wanna have a very narrowminded organized religion view of what you think Christianity is then that’s on you. Again, how old are you? Clearly you don’t understand the climate of the early 70s. It was a very innocent time. It was hippies and flower children And Jesus, in fact, would be far more pleased with this then modern organized religion. I can promise you that. And if I need to explain that to you, then you don’t understand Jesus and Christianity. Jesus and Christianity is not the church. In fact, the church is often everything that is wrong with modern Christianity. Because the church is not Christianity.