US offshore wind: tapping into an underused resource | FT Energy Source
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- Опубліковано 5 лис 2022
- Wind power is the number one source of renewable energy in the US, but nearly all this stems from onshore wind. The US offshore wind industry is underdeveloped and, with only two small offshore operations to date, it lags far behind Europe and China by comparison. The FT’s Derek Brower looks at why progress is slow, and what the White House is trying to do about it.
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About 230,000 birds are killed after colliding with a wind turbine every year.
By comparison, cats are responsible for the deaths of 2.4 billion birds each year. After that, collisions with building glass and vehicles are to blame for about another 800 million deaths.
While I am pro renewable
This comparison is misleading cats kill small, abundant birds like Ravens
While wind turbines kill not so abundant, large birds like falcons and eagles
@@vishalgiraddi5357 yes but so does fossil fuel emissions which are also destroying their ecosystems carry capacity and biodiversity. So once again the deaths from turbines etc are minuscule to the deaths from constant fossil fuel usage and of course actually skycrappers.
Just to highlight the difference in these numbers:
2,400,000,000 (cats)
800,000,000 (buildings and vehicles)
230,000 (wind turbines)
(hmm, to me it just looks like a desperately weak attempt to discredit green energy)
@@vishalgiraddi5357 *_"While I am pro renewable"_* ... and Trump is a bird conservationist.
@@franzjoseph1837 yes, those issues need to be tackled too, i never said that coal does not harm birds/biodiversity, we should be looking for reliable as well as clean energy sources like nuclear/geothermal/hydro( & ofc improve energy storage so that renewable energy can be exploited to its fullest extent, & improve capacity factor)
Great to see. Let's pick up the pace, East coast, West Coast, and the Gulf Coast. These are crucial resources to tap.
Without a radical breakthrough in storage, wind and solar require building more fossil fuel plants to balance the supply.
Want to save the planet? Build nuclear.
@@gilgamecha storage has had all the breakthroughs it needs. We have batteries, pumped hydro, gravity batteries, compressed air, cryo liquid air, heat storage, flywheels, super capacitors, and vehicle to grid evs. We just have to build them out. Also solar and wind back each other up beautifully. While offshore wind is very consistent and reliable. And then of course, there's hydropower, bioenergh, geothermal, and yes nuclear. They all have a place in the clean energy transition. But of all of those nuclear is usually the most expensive and the slowest to build new, especially in the US. I do support more nuclear in some parts of the world, but it is no silver bullet to the energy issues.
@@gehrigornelas6317 if offshore wind was consistent and reliable we’d still have commercial sailing ships . try sailing the east coast of the US and see how reliable wind is
@@jeffgold3091 depends on placement. Also, the design and purpose of a windmill and a ship sail are vastly distant. This is a fallacious analogy.
@@gehrigornelas6317 Batteries?.... compressed air?..... super capacitors?... flywheels? Ever thought about getting in touch with reality?...If these "storage" methods were practical we would be hearing about it non-stop from the main stream media. The truth is that there is no good back up storage method for large scale energy and that is wind and solar's achilles heal. Wind and solar energy will eventually prove to be virtually worthless especially for 3rd countries with hundreds of millions of poverty stricken people.
Suddenly Trump is all worried about birds health
Don't tell him about KFCs
The real biggest graveyard for birds is under a tree beside a rural or suburban road. Birds are the most suicidal bastards in the world I swear.
When you consider that a turbine never saves as much co2 as it takes to build and service them, and this cold calm week they produced almost nothing, you have to wonder at the IQ of their supporters.
@@anglosaxonmike8325that’s not the case in the New England or the Rocky Mountain states . Tons of near constant wind offshore in New England, & the Rocky Mountains literally get more wind than any other place on the planet
These nimbys in Massachusetts shot down the offshore windfarm they were trying to build. They throw fits when a solar farm is proposed in their communities. But yet they demand we switch to green energy.
So they moved their backyards offshore?
Really weird comments. In Denmark off shore Wind rules ! Clean energy. Its a win win for mother earth and our future generations.
When you consider that a turbine never saves as much co2 as it takes to build and service them, and this cold calm week they produced almost nothing, you have to wonder at the IQ of their supporters.
The duck curve shows that renewable energy drops in the evening when electricity demand is highest.
Wind drops in the evening over land because ground has a low heat capacity and this kills air currents.
Wind picks up at night over water because water has a high heat capacity that stays warm over night creating rising convection currents that create wind.
Thus off shore wind turbines are better at supplying high electricity demand at night.
The electricity at night is normally rather low.
This is why Wind and solar compliment each other so well.
It's about complementation and storage projects taking off unbalancing in the grid and saving energy for when it's really needed. More demand => more supply => more demand etc. A whole new industry is being developed here
@@SweBeach2023 Funny that, it's rather high in thhe UK, people cooking, lights on, heating on, demand is high. Dark at 4pm.
@@gehrigornelas6317 Only when the wind blows
Amazing & Brilliant Of The Education Wind Turbines In This videos i hope in this future i can make to a wind turbines to change of the electrical in this city
All this is great but shouldn't the U.S. also construct a truly 'national' grid. To my knowledge it has three separated grids. That is, when there is no wind in on the east coast, energy cannot be taken from the west coast or even the centre.
Recently read an article about 100% recyclable wind turbine blades. I'd like to see these deployed world-wide. Also read that painting one blade black, can reduce bird deaths by 70%.
You could recycle the turbines, but there isn't much use for them. I think I've seen some have been used to make park benches, and in one case it was used to make a children's playground
@@jaredgarbo3679 No, I mean the materials that make the blade can be fully separated and then used to make other things.
The blades last 3 decades and are inert so you can just bury them like you'd bury a rock. It's such a tiny problem compared to recycling an old gas power plant or recycling a decommissioned nuclear power plant that it's almost laughable.
@@DemPilafian Burying waste is not a solution.
@@Richard482 *Inert.* Look it up.
Of course I'd still love to hear your magical method to recycle a decommissioned fossil fuel power plant. Has your magical method ever been used even once in the history of humanity?
Keep scaling up. End greenhouse gases.
I wonder if any of the UK firms tendered for the partnership too???
@niels lund Right.. I know that Denmark is one of the countries leading the way in wind generated electricity, that's wonderful, I just thought that some UK companies had special expertise with off-shore power generation.. I could be wrong though. 😂
Renewably powered global economy...let's rock and roll!!
I really hope some of these wind farms are visible from Trump Tower. He'll love that. :)
the block island wind farm has been plagued by problems from the start and is the most expensive electricity in the US .
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if used this timemark as a photo, its a great picture is my opinion.
Its shows again how small and depandend we are as humanety against and on the forces of nature.
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offshore floating turbines are the future. Easy to install and move, wind speeds stronger and more consistent than at land
The biggest challenge is the survival of migratory birds struck by the blades. Those giant machines & components have no use after it fails, piling up in TRASH FIELDS
Yes
As long as the wind blows, they're great
offshore power is 6 times as expensive as land based. That will kill the economy. Also, very open to sabatoge
@@adel19997 85% of a modern turbine is recyclable. There are some projects being developed to make better use of the fibreglass also.
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Compare the time to launch one of the support vessels with the time to launch an Iowa.
I wonder if wind farms in the Gulf of Mexico are feasible, or if the frequent hurricanes in that region make it a non-option. There's also the factor of the incredible number of variety of birds that fly across the Gulf every year.
@niels lund Storms and hurricanes on the scale of the US are two different things.
@niels lund hitting birds doesn’t bother wind turbines , you’re right . denmark’s electricity is among the most expensive in the world .
@niels lund Yes they do, they shut them down in storms, everyone knows that.
There are magnitudes more birds that are killed by glass buildings and household cats than windmills. It's fake news
Key problem with the Gulf is not very much or consistent wind, compared to the oceans. But the giant fossil fuel companies that already use big rigs to drill as much as six miles for oil and gas there might be able to engineer, host and maintain wind energy turbines across much of the Gulf at some point in the future.
Intermittent and reliable energy are not the same thing. Some W&S makes sense if there is enough firm, reliable power to insure stability. Too much raises costs and weakens infrastructure. W&S operate on top of reliable energy, not instead of reliable energy.
Uh oh, you are complicating the simplistic enthusiasm for renewables with awkward FACTS. 😁
@@gilgamecha
I hope so. We need to stop thinking that being called renewable matters at all. Unfortunately we have made the goal RE instead of reliable, affordable, low environmental impact. In reality RE is nothing but a misleading marketing term like all natural or chemical free.
Nice but put a hundred tarawatts or more let's go green solar wind hydro and let's tap Yellowstone for geothermal
3.3 GW is the peak power, i like wind but come on that's just not interesting what matter is the yearly production and at what cost.
Of course, we don't have birds in Europe, largely because we installed wind farms. Utterly wiped out. It's kind of tragic.
He can't use the data for European wind farms though, because of American exceptionalism. Their birds just aren't anything like ours.
Alternatively, it could be house cats that are the real risk to birds.
No-one should call themselves a journalist if they're going to put out this kind of negative nonsense without refuting such claims with readily available information and respectable sources.
Total nonsense. Birds have common sense to fly away from moving blades.
I hope they are hurricane proof. You can have too much wind.
two foreign companies using ships and materials made in europe ?
crew transfer vessels are tiny compared to ships used for turbine construction
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73 acres? What a joke. Come to the Southeast and we can handle hundreds of acres. Plus everyone from the NE is moving here so we need the additional power.
It's good if we have things prepared as marxist economics to my personal understanding comes after capitalism to turn every inch of its development to benefit the existence of labouring force and growing more with it
What we really need is more clean, reliable nuclear power.
Now we're seeing what happens when policymakers are influenced by activists, they get what they thought they wanted: a forced reduction in fossil fuel usage causing energy problems.
This kind of action never ends well. We've spent decades wasting time and ra esources on dilute intermittent power sources while penalizing dense reliable sources, and we are now suffering energy shortages and seriously weakened infrastructure due to our obsession with RE.
The pain and suffering of this crisis - a crisis of not enough reliable electricity - is happening right now. As usual the poorer parts of the world suffer the most as coal, oil and gas that was slated for them is now being diverted to wealthier countries. How can we talk about reducing emissions when wealthy countries are throwing their climate targets out the window to keep warm this winter?
Like fossil fuels, nuclear can produce nation-scale electricity reliably year-round, regardless of time of day or season. Unlike fossil fuels it does so cleanly.
if we are going to successfully decarbonize, energy must be secure and reliable first.
If offshore wind is such an underused resource, why does it require the US government to subsidize it? If the people in New York think that their electricity bills are high now, just wait until these unnecessary monstrosities go online.
As long as the wind blows, they'll work fine.
Do you think there is a possibility for the wind to stop blowing?
@@heinedenmark I understand it happens quit a bit. Sort of like the sun doesn't shine all the time.
@@darkgalaxy5548 You think people that are developing the future energy infrastructure are not aware of this 'problem'?
@@heinedenmark I think a lot of people are looking for a magical solution that doesn't exist. Sure wind & solar should be in the mix, but there's a reason they're known as intermittent or unreliable energy sources.
@@darkgalaxy5548 That's why you built an overcapacity. So that you can make hydrogen, when it's very windy, for use when it's not so windy. We(Denmark) quite often produce more wind energy than we can use. And we're gonna build a lot more still.
big oil becomes big wind . meet the new boss
My god landing in new york will feel like landing in copenhagen ..
And what happens to these end of life using for these Wind Turbines? 🧐
Yeah, whatabout it? And whatabout the end of life oil rigs and processing plants?
The problem is that fossil fuels are required to build the infrastructure, perform maintenance, provide raw materials for structural elements, etc. You need fossil fuels to ship materials around to support these wind turbines and off shore facilities.
tax credits means US taxpayer dollars going into norwegian wind farmers pockets . the money has to come from somewhere
Birds Vs the survival of humanity by limiting climate change. Is it really that hard of a choice? We don't have time to look at the long term because we wasted the last 30yrs doing nothing.
"The biggest challenges (are) time..."
No, the biggest challenge is getting the Republican party---and their friends on the oil industry---to stop impeding progress.
The biggest challenge is time seeing as global temperatures according to NOAA have been declining since 2015. So once the climate change crisis is shown as a failed theory the use of fossil fuels will return.
@@shaunluckham1418 fossil fuel is expensive. On shore wind is the cheapest and offshore catching up.
No one is going to want a fithy noise unreliable car when they can have electric one.
We ain't going back to 1972 technology
@@julianshepherd2038 what you choose to drive is up to you. As there is no need to change what I use I’ll continue to use a petrol engined car. As there is no crisis, no need for net zero and I don’t want to buy an expensive virtue signal. Which figures say wind is cheaper per gigawatt? Would there be a reason that site wants to skew the data?
@@shaunluckham1418 climate change isn’t the same as ‘global warming’ , it’s simply a change in climate.
@@popcornfilms1 correct but the mantra is GHGs produced by humans causes temperature rise. This is incorrect. Therefore Net Zero is a waste of time and tax payers money. The whole Paris agreement is all about limiting temperature rise, all of agenda 2030 is the same core belief. Now that the empirical data shows the temperature is not linked to atmospheric CO2 all these schemes should be reevaluated.
Offshore windmills are a scheme for navies to restrict shipping lanes and that is why it is important to have Dynairships of Robert L. Morrison's patented lighter than air solids sealed in metal foil having nuclear powered jet engines to transport freight along with Mary Kenney's patents for of louver covered ground based ducted fans referenced from Marshal J Corbett of Guman Patent for of cold plasma aerial highways depicte4d in of film "NeoSeoul 211 44 A.D.."
Imperial Japan had sulfur fueled steam filled airships and deuterium fueled rocket propelled gliders above terror of Roosevelt's Allied aggression until Fall of 1945 when Allies forced Japan to have rail transit and solar agricultural farms.
How long will they last , What is the impact to marine life , Will they cost more to maintain than they produce , ARE they just another plastic bottle and bag mess ?
Ner zero 2030 is just never gonna happen
When you consider that a turbine never saves as much co2 as it takes to build and service them, and this cold calm week they produced almost nothing, you have to wonder at the IQ of their supporters. 10 days now in the UK and hardly any wind, and it's freezing cold.
Utterly useless.
And the coal, oil, or nuke plant will also have to run (continually) to be able to instantly back up the wind farm and smooth out it's cycle of wind/no wind. Add to that, windmills require extensive mining powered by fossil fuels, resulting in a non-recycleable turbine blade (which also requires transportation by diesel train/truck). We will actually be using more fossil fuel, not less.
lol no, In principle, mining could use energy recovery, renewable energy, and carbon capture to supplement, replace, or mitigate the impacts of fossil fuel use. However, a combination of renewable-energy technologies would be required.
Iron ore production with renewable resources such as solar, wind, and geothermal could produce electricity. Since no change in the mining processing system would be required, renewable electricity could be applied to existing, as well as to new, mining sites.
Just watched on SKY News in the UK that they have installed a load of new batteries at Didcot power station, near Oxford. This is a gas-fired power station so not green. But allows the batteries to even the power load, so the power station has time to increase and decrease power output. So does not need to run continuously, as can turn on and off a number of gas steam turbines.
@@franzjoseph1837 You've never operated a mine, have you? As a frequent investor in mining, I can tell u your notions will not work.
@@cubsfan910 lol it is literally being done today so idk bruv
No one is going to be hooked by this story. All know the future is still with fossil fuel, and its total replacement is impossible.
What happens when the wind is not blowing??? Then they are useless along with all renewables lol
Out at sea there are no time intervals without wind. None. Zilch.
What happens when the wind is blowing?
We have batteries.
F green energy v8s for ever! Let the world burn
Spoken like a true child
Delusional
who you?
I had baked beans for lunch. I e got some spare wind for ya 💨