Best Compact Impact Driver?
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- Опубліковано 20 чер 2024
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Are budget brand compact impact drivers worth it? We have no idea, but we CAN tell you how close they are getting these days to options closer to the top. Comparing Milwaukee's oldest 2463 model & latest M12 3453 vs options that are as wallet friendly as possible, including WORKPRO, Nawin 16, SeeSii 16V, and SKIL ID6744A-10.
We also bought the Hyper-Tough from Walmart which showed up last, but like their impact wrench with the included battery it stop/starts often and couldn't complete testing without also requiring additional larger batteries, so was left out for this specifically budget episode for that. But can include in the future if you guys like, people last time thought we were making this stuff up so didn't want to stir up another honest nest.
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It would be great if we could find out if Ingersoll Rand's W8171 truly puts out 2,000ftlbs of breakaway torque and 1,300ftlbs of forward torque. Some need more than a ½" impact can provide. It would be nice to test things in the ¾" category.
On that note, my DCF900 is almost too much for my Cr-Mo sockets. You can easily see wear in the ½" square socket from it. We need an awesome ¾" drive and DeWalt, unfortunately, doesn't have it.
Your content is great, but I don't know who is doing any research to get the best a budget impact driver possible. Most people doing research on a purchase are looking for the best.
I see.. $70 and according to price trackers its been $70 or over for the past 3 months.
@@Arcticwhir It seems that Regional and Personal pricing by Amazon may be occurring, as I am also shown $70 using TTC's link.
@@Arcticwhir Price trackers don't factor clickable discounts.
Shows $69.99 + $15 clickable coupon, and often a 10% discount code even logged out, in incognito mode and a VPN for me.
@@kanehoward7050 I hear you on that last point. Assuming you wait to buy the name brand stuff on sale or part of a kit deal etc., the price difference over the cheap junk ends up equating to a few fast food meals. Not worth it ..
"the song of its brushed people" - Thanks for my first laugh of the day 🤣
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That was pretty good! I have kind of missed that old song... 🤣
Loved it
@@Lesterman_1 I miss the light show, but not the sound ;)
"The SeeSii seems satisfied scoring superior stats."
Beautiful alliteration.
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my coworker actually uses one of them. got it free. it’s pretty alright actually working in a mechanic shop
My vote, as usual, is for the Skil 12V. They have killer sales, and they go on sale quite often. Also all of the Skil line is brushless, many have USB adapters in the batteries. Better charging stations. There is also a decent line of tools in their lineup. Not at the level of Milwaukee but better than any other budget line. And personally I like the stand up design.
Did you see Harbour Freights free tool weekend sale for this weekend?
@@Randyplaysguitars Dude, he invented harbor freight sales.
I feel just for giggles he should also throw in the 4AH battery on the SKIL to see how much it gains on the competition.
I always feel that SKIL is the red headed step child of the tool family. Highly underrated.
Agreed. I recommend their 20v line over any other budget brand. They feel like a premium tool and perform like a mid-tier tool for a budget tool price.
I used a screw driver one (forget what they are called) for years from them that was the best.
I have a bunch of Erbauer tools which are rebranded Skil tools for Screwfix in the UK, pretty solid for someone who works on cars at home.
I just feel like they suck most of the time.
@@elliotkane4443Have you tried them since they were bought by Chervon? They’re the parent company for EGO and Flex among others. I have both lines and while the M12 stuff is better and more refined, the Skil is closer than I thought overall. The impact wrenches? Not close. Haha.
I've used the M12 Fuel driver as a service tech for a few years now and it's a lifesaver when clambering on roofs or through attics, does 99.5% of the stuff I need it to.
I never use my M18 fuel anymore . M12 surge and m12 installation tool both fit in a half width pack out and are my favs
And they’re super light too
@@Taylorc52M12 surge is my goto for impact driver. I have 18V impact drivers, but I rarely find anything my M12 Fuel won’t handle effectively. I know it’s not always as fast, especially with the Surge, but the speed is fast enough, and the weight is awesome. In fact, the M12 (brushed) screwdriver is my most used tool. It does so much. I always have the M1 Surge and M12 Fuel Hammer Drill/Driver (2504?) available, but the screwdriver handles about 75% of my tasks these days (in the past, it wasn’t quite as high).
It’s less than 5% of the time that I have to pull out an 18V tool.
I'm all DW 20V/60V and I keep threatening to get some M12 stuff just for the size/weight advantage.
@@huntercook6605 dewalt makes good powerful tools at good prices but you just can’t beat the m12’s size to power and weight to power
The fit and finish of Skil’s 12v is impressive for the price. I highly recommend Skil over other budget brands.
the Skil really did make a case.. sure the SiiSii is a tad bit faster and a tad bit cheaper.. but with that extra torque half a second to a second of drive time might be worth it.
I have the SiiSii mid-torque impact gun and it is great.. if big.. I don't think you can go wrong with either the Skil or the SiiSii here.
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@ TedSchoenling I’m specifically referencing other brands with battery ecosystems. Skil has a full line of 12v tools. I don’t think SeeSii has any other 16v tools.
@@kiwe3546 They are owned by Chervon, the Chinese company(obviously lol) that also owns EGO and FLEX. Chervon definitely seems to know what they're doing, I've been surprised a number of times by their brands.
I don't like how the battery fits in the skil.
I'm a woodworker and I usually grab my 12v tools over my 18v tools. Mostly because they are smaller and it's easier to control how deep a screw goes in with a 12v.
Kind of angry that Ridgid decided to discontinue them seeing that it was my favorite tool.
I love my M12 Bushed Milwaukee I bought it with the drill combo for like $100 8 years ago and it does just fine for the none hard regular use I need it for.
I was going to buy the M12 Fuel on its own but it comes in a kit with the M12 Fuel hammer drill for $200 with two batteries, which felt like a no-brainer for me. Great content as always!
Nice, hadn't noticed that. I'll link it to the vid as that's probably the best deal to pick up the driver IMO
Fwiw I hate the fuel hammer drill. It’s too easy to flip into hammer mode when chucking and unchucking and the electronic clutch is dumb since it does a weird slow start thing
@@vaderdudenator1The newer Gen3 m12 hammer drill went back to a mechanical clutch and redeems Milwaukee for that Gen2 e-clutch abomination of a tool. That gen2 was the most irritating power tool i've ever owned.
@@TorqueTestChannel There's a pretty killer deal now at home depot. M12 fuel hammer drill, impact driver, 3/8 ratchet, charger and 3 batteries, 4Ah, 2.5Ah high output and 2Ah for $300.
In new zealand that kit costs NZ$793 which is US$490. Milwaukee is outrageously overpriced here. The Gen3 impact itself is close to NZ$ 400
This is such a damn treat every Friday morning!
Dewalt Xtreme 12V is my favorite. Perfect balance of power and controllability. It's lightweight and I find the ergonomics superior to M12 and Bosch 'battery-in-handle' designs. Also the combo drill/impact kit sometimes comes up on sale for $99 which is a steal.
Heard it is a great tool!!
I have the milfuckee, mostly because their mechanics m12 line was (and still is), just outrageously good when I started buying cordless tools. The stubby impact wrenches, the ratchets, just good solid shit that performs, for a decent price (compared to say, snap-on). I do admit I think the "18v" style battery packs would probably make for better ergonomics in a bunch of the tools, specifically drills, drivers and such, but that comes with the trade off in being worse ergonomically in others, like ratchets, rotary tools, and other "in-line" designed tools.
Overall, I am glad they work great for you!
This is great!
I would love to see a similar test with compact drills. I know that's a little less in your use scenario but I've been mulling them over a lot lately.
the thing i think is most important for an impact driver is actually how slow it can go, how sensitive it is, and the feedback you get from the tool. the ability to drive in small fasteners 95% of the way and then finish by hand is something that saves a lot of time. i dont just want to smash in big framing screws, i also want to run in 1.6mm screws and assemble ikea furniture. not sure how you'd test that though lol
Yeah that Skil is a good value IMO, nice to see similar results!
Skil 12v seems perfect for drills, impact drivers, multi tools, and jig saws.
Love seeing skil do well! Keep testing them!
I’ve been waiting for something like this! Would love to see another episode with the Bosch 12v brushed and brushless
Ive had both the milwaukee and makita 12v impact and man that makita is just a beaut. So comfy in the hand and i dont even notice it hooked onto my belt and its got enough power to do 90% of screwing and drilling. I pretty much only pull out the 18v for large bugles into material thicker than 100mm
I bought the seesii based on your review. I love this channel! Will be putting it through it's paces when I go back to work on Monday. Will update on how it goes. Thanks again guys!
This is becoming one of my favourite channels. Also, I really appreciate the Nm conversion! 😊
Picked up a couple M12 Fuel kits w/ small battery & charger $99 on sale around a holiday. Hard to beat & love them
I truly enjoy your videos and the fun voiceover. Thank you! Not much love for Kobalt on your channel. they have good prices lately.
I really enjoy these videos. I watch at break everyday.
Thanks for making this video and factoring in driving speed. As a casual DIYer this SKIL is looking good.
I love all my 12 volt Skil tools. The most under noticed tool is the Skil 2x20 volt 7.25 inch circular saw for under $250 for the kit.
I enjoyed seeing how the brushed Milwaukee stacked up; got it in a kit several months back and it has been more capable than I had expected (low expectations due to 12v and age of design). Mostly use it on 3/8" nuts/bolts and sheet metal screws; needed a right angle adapter for some tight areas, but that was true of newer designs as well.
I have the seesii and I love it I use it all over the house, it's a bit too powerful for home electronics but I have the Denali for that
Please do a video where you test the durability of chrome sockets in comparison to impact and when they break. Thank you for the great Videos. Greetings from Germany
Another great show, thanks for the info TTC
Great video. i would love to see the m12 with 6.0 and 5.0 batteries.
Would love to see one with impact sockets! Wright, Koken, truck brands etc love these vids! ❤❤
Another great video!!! I love you guys!!
Interesting. Nice job taking some of the questions out of the amazon quagmire for those in the market.
I have zero need for it but I am totally going to pick up one of those Skill drivers to keep my right angled driver (that you guys recommended) company because he is lonely and I don't like lonely tools. Thanks for the review!
I’ve bought into the Skil line pretty heavily. I love their 12v lineup and have a lot of 20v and 40 v tools from them. All great tools. Just wish they’d make a more powerful 20v drill.
I got a M12 old model for $27 a few weeks ago, you could get a knock off battery and charger for another $25 as well, which makes it a really competitive option
I have that gen 3 m12 Milwaukee, converted it a 1/4in square drive by buying the gen 2 1/4in anvil(since Milwaukee wont nake a 1/4 square drive gen 3 for some reason) and its amazing. Use every day for just about everything. Got half my shop to buy them too, most didnt convert them though. If youre a mechanic I highly recommend that gen 3 impact driver
We need the milwaukee surge in there
Bit sad I didn't see the dewalt DCF815 or 801. Though not modern, I use my 815 mainly, works great for interior trim fasteners and small engine bolts like coil packs and air duct bands and such. Always been curious how low power it is.
This is my favorite channel at the moment.
Hope you're planning an all oil impulse ranking vid as well since you've left those out so far.
Please test out bosch next. I really love my various bosch 12v drivers!
Would love to the see the Bosch one next
Great episode
have you tested the Milwaukee m12 with the hydraulic impact mechanism? it would be interesting to see and to test the claims of being "quiet"
It's quieter but not like it's silent. Over a long day it may be worth it to you but I never really notice it after the first few times using it. It's just noise at that point
that song of the brushless is the best!!!
I work for Honda, so we predominantly use Makita impact drivers for repairs or otherwise, but recently I've seen those little Milwaukee impacts popping up here and there. They seem to do fairly well.
You guys should also test some of boschs compact impact drivers
bought a 3/8” bauer impact at HF for like $30 in their open box section. honestly it’s really not bad for being a brushed motor chinesium impact. does everything i need short of stuff like lugnuts and i have my 1/2” air impact for that. i work as a mechanic too
Nice video, I actually prefer the Skil type battery, I don’t like laying my tools down
I bought the "terrible" skil micro USB screwdriver/power tester thing that did very poorly in project farms testing, but has been fantastic in my use of it. Plus, battery still works and holds charge longer than I can keep track of a micro USB cable. 10ft lbs is plenty enough to crack outlet screws, takes out most cabinet hinge screws, lamps/fixtures etc.
Stat maxxing is not always the best fit and I love that you test that, but also recognize not everyone needs to drop $200 to say, pull outlet cover screws lol. If I didn't have M12 already I'd probably go buy some skil stuff, or make the jump to have some DeWalt tools. My stupid ancient Ryobi 3 speed impact won't die though. Has to be one of the better tools they've ever made considering price/longevity. Have an M18 from the same era and price range and... It works* but no longer outperforms the old Ryobi like it did new
We've been waiting!! :)
Hell yeah it’s torque test Friday !
I’m an M12 Fuel (25xx) owner/fan, but that Skil 12V is impressive.
I grabbed one of the hyper tough brushless driver on sale for like 35 for a kit and I've been pleasantly surprised with it. It's become the driver I loan out when needed instead of my nice DeWalt
Good work.
Id love to see u test canadien tire brand like maximum or mastercraft electric tools ive rlly been wondering if there worth the shoot
Would like a comment about smoothness and balance when testing impacts please!
I believe you used to be able to pick up the last gen Milwaukee Fuel for $100 as a kit from Home Depot around holidays like Fathers Day and Christmas. I’m not sure if they are still doing that with the current generation, but it used to come with a bag, 2.0 battery (I think), tool, and M12 charger.
I've been using Skill tools for a few years now. Great battery life and great quality for price.
I prefer the battery on the Skil tbh, for some reason my caveman brain is pleased by the fact that you can set it upright. Lets not forget the belt clip and the tool lineup that Skil offers. Also a patient person can find tool combos for some pretty epic prices. I got the right angle impact, drill, multi tool, tire inflator, circular saw, and shop light (with 2.0 and 4.0ah battery) for just north of $220. Add the $70 I paid for the impact (with 2 - 2.0ah batteries) and that's a good range of tools and 4 total batteries for less than $300.
I didn't even care about max torque, I have 18v for that. I used to be a full time contractor (until I wised up a bit) and now my projects are much smaller (thank god) but these tools all perform quite satisfactorily and the weight difference between them and 18v is a huge bonus.
I don't use a smaller 12v impact because i want power. It's because I don't want to accidentally strip 8mm aluminum threads
Use a ratchet instead, though they can still break stuff with sheer speed and inertia if you're not careful.
I love my skil impact. It never leaves me wanting for power.
Having said that, skil also offers a 4 ah battery, which should also give more power. Would be interesting to see how it compares to the m12 with it's larger battery.
Also the skil kit with 5 items is a steal at 150 bucks
I'd be interested to see how subcompact 18v drivers fit into the lineup.
That Skill is amazing for the price tag will definitely be getting one.
Curious how the Dewalt 12V DCF801 would have fared.
I heard the 12v extreme line by DeWalt is pretty good
Song of the brushed people 😂
Just recently bought a 2462 used with a base battery. Wish it had a little more ugga dugga, but honestly once it gets going it's a life saver. I don't use my mid torque as much anymore
Skill hands down for the money. It is a underrated powerhouse. Can turn the light on for set time and has USB plug for backup power which Ive been using just about everyday at a jobsite. Excellent tool.
I would like to see you test the Bosch 12v. I got it because it's the same battery as the Dremel and the drill came with multiple heads.
The skill is a great value for sure, but my favorite is still the old Bosch brushed version. If I need more beans, I have plenty of 18v brushless to choose from
I know that this is a budget comparison, however, I'd love to see how the tool truck brands compare in similar tests. As an auto tech most of what I have is Snap-On and I have to say the I personally love their 14.4 tools but haven't had the need or funds to buy their hex drivers.
Did you ever consider testing the Bosch 12V line?
Awesome video. Unfortunately, it’s VERY limited from a graphical standpoint. Most of these tools are available in only a handful countrys. Sure, i can import them, but at a higher cost, and no warranty
Could you guys to the surge impacts next?
I have been waiting to see the skil 12v I have had to replace my m12 and I haven’t noticed a difference yet
Skil is highly underrated as a budget tool. I'd take a SKIL over a lot of other budget brands. Their corded massive Skilsaw is what sold me ages ago and still runs today. Their cordless 4v screwdriver is alway pretty good for smaller jobs.
Would be awesome to see test of air 3/4 guns
Could you consider testing the 12v drill drivers as well?
Thank you.
Would have loved to include weight as well into this. I for example have an m18, but would buy an m12 for light things just because it is lighter.
I love Skil’s 12V line.
I’d like to see you guys check out the hyper tough brushless 1/2 20v impact. I ended up getting myself and it’s pretty spicy with a 4.0. 129ft-lbs lug nuts in 2 seconds for what that’s worth. Also, assuming you don’t already own a 4.0 battery, pick up the angle grinder. It comes with the 4.0 battery for $59 and the battery alone is $55. Oh, and the impact is $59. Watch out for the brushed version of the impact, it’s $64 and has a red trigger instead of black.
How’s the hyper tough? They seem very similar to the design side and shape of the Milwaukee stubby guns
The hyper tough 12v is pretty good too
The song of the brushed people 😂😂😂😂. My people lol.
Curious including the also small 12v Makita drivers. The Skil isn't that much compact when the battery takes similar space as the impact head, other than that is pretty compelling! The best lights on a tool like it so far!
You can often get a kit from Skil for around $150 or less with this impact driver, a drill, multitool, flashlight, bluetooth speaker, 2 batteries, and a charger.
it would be nice to see were the Bosch 12v fit into this as well
On your impact driver tests, I think you should also include weight metrics. Think about the people who are actually using these, roofers, deckers, fencers, hundreds of fasteners in a day, super repetitive work, often pocketing or belting the tool when its not in hand. This is also where grip ergonomics plays a huge part, tool time in hand and frequency of tool pickup, again just look at the people who are using these and how their job operates, that super bulbous 16v grip will absolutely be an issue if you're driving hundreds of decking screws in a day. Battery duration is also a important metric to look at within this category, because a short duration battery will end up having you carry more spares on you during the job, a jobsite charging station isn't convenient if you're up on a roof.
Can you guys do a round up of the best driver for delicate work? I've been searching for years for something sensitive enough to quickly disassemble and reassemble laptops, desktops, general electronics, etc. I've had my eye on the DeWalt DCD701 after checking it out at Lowe's. The lowest clutch setting feels like a newborn would be able to stop it. But that could be from a low battery or just that it's an abused floor model.
I wish you'd include bosch pro in these kinds of vids
i just switched from the bosch 12V 105nm (which i was dissapointed not to see in this line up tbh but oh well good video anyway). to the milwaukee M12 3453 and i just love the difference but seeing the m12 not reaching its advertised potential i wonder how off the bosch 12V was that i used in the past. would you be so kind to test that version in a future video?
Please do the same for compact drills
Hey, could you please put down the heights from the audio of the torque test. Thanks :)
i own both of those milwaukee drivers.both are very reliable and great in my opinion.the newer one does have much more power and is nicer to use.
Can you take a look at the VEVOR brand? They seem to be a competent and farely well made for the price brand, and they do EVERYTHING you can imagine. Have there cheap 12v polisher and love it for diy detail, gonma get the ratchet next cause I cant justify the m12 one yet in my career (diesel mechanic)
I would like to see a retest of the hypertough with a 4ah
Thank you very much....