They already have markers. The difference is they're empty so whatever color your painting with, you just use 2 thin to thin out the paint so it goes through the pen. I actually like that better because your not locked in to the company's colors. You can make your own.
@@tinapinch7494 That's actually better even! I had no idea, but now going to go check it out. Thank you for the heads up! I have a pair of all white hi leather chucks just begging to be customized. Lol.
I buy empty Molotow markers and mix my Angelus paint with 2 thin. They have pens as small as 1mm, which is great for those of us who are more comfortable drawing than painting. Great for outlines and touch-ups, and also making custom colors like Tina said 👍🏼
@@seanw.9617 You're making me want to try my hand at it. Lol. I'm a creative person and can be pretty meticulous, so I think this is something I'd actually be able to do. I like the idea of drawing and/or doodling with the thin markers you mentioned also.
Yes you can use Posca markers but when you're done your supposed to use Angela clear coating to coat it .. I have been Graffiti hand painted jackets t-shirts pullovers since 1982. Now I use them today for jacket's T-shirts ect... Point is clear coating will keep your artwork protected from all types of weather.
@@E3chillout Angela clear Coating is for fabric,canves but the good thang about it last for ever . When you have Paintedleather jacket, jean jacket, pullovers even shoe's.. and you happen to for get to color a part you can always go back and touch it up even if already been Clear Coated plus Angela's Clear Coat ,it has Matte and it's flexible not stiff. Hope this helps Bro..
As a person that has customized with both I would say the paint is better for the simple fact that it last longer and is better against wear and tear. If you are a person like my I more prefer to do drawing design on the show with fine tipped posca. If you are a beginner I would definitely say go with the paint better to start out with the paint as you will most likely be using more. It also looks cleaner than compared to the markers. Also the markers aren’t designed for shoes while the paint is so go with the paint if you are doing leather shoes. Posca works really well on canvas materials even though they dry out and ruin the markers.’
I customized my shoes 4 months ago with angelus and I can see that the paint is starting to crack on the sides, but that was probably because I didn't use the right varnish. Otherwise I really like the paint, you can blend more colors and it looks fresh with the vibrant. It's also good if you like your art to be detailed and/or realistic! I do have posca but never used it to customize bc it's too colorful for my taste.
Does the paint stay on leather cracks or it starts to look like earlier after a few uses? Did you wear those shoes on regular basis for 4 months after it started cracking?
@@anonymousydk It's just some small cracks (the paint) caused by the movements I think but it hasn't peeled off yet. I started to notice them the time I wrote the comment. I've worn the shoes everyday since I customized them until now.
another thing that you can do with Poska markers is a sealant so that way you avoid the rubbing off when wet and the scratch resistance using some type of clearcoat helps with that now granted a lot of my projects are on wood or metal or plastic such as I do, custom skateboards but it should be able to apply to shoes
This was exactly my question, because angulus paint is leather paint ofcourse it should definitely hold up better but I was wondering if an acrylic sealer would make posca markers Or even acrylic paint hood up closer to leather paint/angulus paint
The way I would look at it is if you’re wanting something with more vibrancy Angelus paint has a better gloss to it. If you’re looking for something to have more of a matte finish, the Poska marker works better but honestly, I would combine the two and just use Angelus paint to do it entire coating or fill in larger areas and then just use the markers to draw my design on and it would have a beautiful contrast to finish and beautiful contrast of color
From the view of someone who does not customize, draw, or paint…..the paint looks more vibrant and durable. While the pens are not; they do look to be easier to control and manage. But here’s my thought; when you know what you’re doing; like Xavier and the other customizes…..you can make it “do-what-it-do with a paint brush or a pen. Just be careful wearing your customs anywhere. Great video❤️
I love your videos, especially that they are straight to the point and not drug out for an hour. I have been learning a lot from watching you. I am just now getting into customizing shoes. I am a noob, so this may be a dumb question/comment. When you were doing the scuff test and water test, did the shoes already have the cover coat on them? If not, do you think that would have made any difference in the outcome of the test? Thanks.
I love this video! Thank you! I'm curious about putting a coat of white paint down first on the canvas shoe before doing both types of paint, compared to without as well!
*imo I haven’t tested this but I’m really sure the marker paint will hold up just fine if you seal it with a quality angelus paint finisher* I used to make the mistake of restoring my shoes with angelus paint and not adding a sealer so I noticed paint would end up chipping over wear, the sealer as it sounds seals the paint and gives it a strong bond
A lot of people forget, even though Posca markers are often described as acrylic, they are still water based so they are absolutely not gonna hold up to water or really most abuse unless they are sealed with an acrylic sealer of some kind. Angelus is a leather acrylic paint that uses a much better binder with their pigments. Overall posca is good though for most applications as long as you properly seal the work afterwards.
EXCELLENT video! You really did a great job reviewing and comparing these two paints to customize shoes. Great Job - I learned A LOT and it helped me make an informed decision.
First point posca , They are so good for customizing things like that and easy to prep! Second point Angelus paint I love the flame! Posca is cool,I just prefer the look of angelus here! Third point also Angelus .I wouldn’t want my shoes getting their paint scraped off like the posca,So the point goes to paint
Appreciate the video. All I want to do is make some skate shoes in the colors I like. You compared and contrasted the two methods perfectly. Awesome video.
Plz tell me I’m not the only one who realized how when he scraped the 1st time the blade was down and he was scratching hard. The second time blade was up and it seemed like he wasn’t even touching the paint…
Both paints are acrylic paints. Angelus isn't any specialized leather paint, I call it "marketing trap" Most shoes aren't made of leather but of polyester, which is covered with vinyl called "eco-leather" The only difference between these paints is the packaging (one is markers and the other is paint in a jar) and the marketing target 😉Of course we shouldn't forget that there are differences in quality in acrylic paints. There are many paints on the market that are better quality than Angelus and much cheaper (because they are not for "leather" 😉) I won't give any examples because no one pays me to advertise them 😁I wish you all many successful projects👍
Love the posca markers because they are easier to use .. the paint is better. But no matter what you do , u kill it EVERYTIME‼️‼️‼️ I love watching your videos! 🎉 Salute
Surely if you just put a Matt (or gloss) clear top coat to hold the marker/paint on you would not get a problem with the scratching and water? Not rocket science! 🙄
I like using both, Angelus is better, but posca makes it easier for me to customize shoes, I'm not that great with a paintbrush Posca does tend to flake sometimes. I wish Angelus had a good market line like posca with very small tips!
I'd use both.... outline with POSCA Markers and Angelus Leather Paint for the fill-in. However, using the paint brushes for very fine lines, Angelus Paint would be better and vibrant. Yet and still, in the right hands with skills (artistic) and mindset (creative) ideas will be great to incorporate any method. Even if some use fabric and cutting to stitching techniques to make their custom shoes or any item that much more in value!
Bit late to the party on this video but looking at ways to try and repair/ cover up the cracks on my air force 1s - would these essentially cover them? Thinking I may try customising them as well while I’m at it! Great vid btw and appreciate any responses
Can you use a mix as i think that would work really well because using the angela for larger details or painting whole parts is more effeciant and vibrant but for small drawings and details i feel adding posca would be great
Did you use any type of Sealant, acrylic sealer on Either the Posca pen or then angulus before you scraped at them??????????? Or did the angulus just hold up that good without any sealer or acrylic finisher???????????
Does this also apply to the foam/rubber details on shoes? I’m not a customizer but sometimes the accent color is not to my liking and would like to change it. Like right now I bought a pair of Jordan 39 “lumiere” (the all black with white hits) and I’m tempted to turn them into black cats or breds. I had a pair of Lebron 19 low “witness” which I bought a $2 black paint pen from wal-mart and blacked out the “witness” on the front and blacked out the yellow hits minus the shank plate and some foam buried behind the ankle cushion. It turned out good but within 2-3 weeks it started to flake off. I think I touched them up once, but they were beaters and I eventually had to retire them. The most difficult part was the large rubber swoosh on the side. I tried roughing it up to hold the paint better, but it didn’t work well. The paint pen would coat the swoosh but had to be done in streaks as the pen would just smear the paint if you went over it again, obviously at least 2 coats was a must.
I feel like with the posca markers, you have more control with the paint, more than using the brush and having slight imperfections. Though, angelus paint is way more durable, and doesnt chip as much as posca does.
@xavier I’ve been searching for the right airbrush that goes with the compressor you dropped but the links don’t match. It’s still the paintbrush link. 😢😢 and I cannot locate the tape either. Please help ❤️
Do you think Angelus paint would hold up well on EVA foam? As well as polyurethane ? I'm looking to paint all in black my EVADICT TR2 trail but can't find anything but Sneakers and I don't know exactly what material they're made of.
I wanna make custom nike air max for breast cancer month....i already bought a bunch of posca markers after watching one of your videos....with all these test did you spray the shoe then do the test were these test done before you sprayed the shoe?
Which One Do You Like More ?
I like the paint more way smooth and not darker in diffrent areas
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both
Angelus paint even though it takes longer while using them
angelus
Angelus needs to come up with a marker line that has the same staying power as the paint. Would be a great chance to make that $$!
They already have markers. The difference is they're empty so whatever color your painting with, you just use 2 thin to thin out the paint so it goes through the pen. I actually like that better because your not locked in to the company's colors. You can make your own.
@@tinapinch7494 That's actually better even! I had no idea, but now going to go check it out. Thank you for the heads up! I have a pair of all white hi leather chucks just begging to be customized. Lol.
Posca
I buy empty Molotow markers and mix my Angelus paint with 2 thin. They have pens as small as 1mm, which is great for those of us who are more comfortable drawing than painting. Great for outlines and touch-ups, and also making custom colors like Tina said 👍🏼
@@seanw.9617 You're making me want to try my hand at it. Lol. I'm a creative person and can be pretty meticulous, so I think this is something I'd actually be able to do. I like the idea of drawing and/or doodling with the thin markers you mentioned also.
Yes you can use Posca markers but when you're done your supposed to use Angela clear coating to coat it .. I have been Graffiti hand painted jackets t-shirts pullovers since 1982. Now I use them today for jacket's T-shirts ect... Point is clear coating will keep your artwork protected from all types of weather.
Thank you
Does it matter what kind of clear coat you use?
@@E3chillout Angela clear Coating is for fabric,canves but the good thang about it last for ever . When you have Paintedleather jacket, jean jacket, pullovers even shoe's.. and you happen to for get to color a part you can always go back and touch it up even if already been Clear Coated plus Angela's Clear Coat ,it has Matte and it's flexible not stiff. Hope this helps Bro..
I knew it needed something to keep the finish... but now I know.. thanks for the tip!
thank you for your advice!!
As a person that has customized with both I would say the paint is better for the simple fact that it last longer and is better against wear and tear. If you are a person like my I more prefer to do drawing design on the show with fine tipped posca. If you are a beginner I would definitely say go with the paint better to start out with the paint as you will most likely be using more. It also looks cleaner than compared to the markers. Also the markers aren’t designed for shoes while the paint is so go with the paint if you are doing leather shoes. Posca works really well on canvas materials even though they dry out and ruin the markers.’
You put finisher on the posca marker
Custom after you are done and they will last pretty long
Well Said Tanashia , Thank You 😎
Pasco will win
Posca markers have paint in them
So the markers then put a finisher on it would be great for Vanz type huh
I customized my shoes 4 months ago with angelus and I can see that the paint is starting to crack on the sides, but that was probably because I didn't use the right varnish. Otherwise I really like the paint, you can blend more colors and it looks fresh with the vibrant. It's also good if you like your art to be detailed and/or realistic! I do have posca but never used it to customize bc it's too colorful for my taste.
if paint is cracking, you didn't prep the shoe right. Cracking paint has nothing to do with varnish. Hope that helps
@@artirises3567 Thanks, good to know but the thing is I used the angelus leather preparer and deglazer at least 2 times on each area ?
@@desi8896 u need to acetone it first to get rid of the factory finish
Does the paint stay on leather cracks or it starts to look like earlier after a few uses? Did you wear those shoes on regular basis for 4 months after it started cracking?
@@anonymousydk It's just some small cracks (the paint) caused by the movements I think but it hasn't peeled off yet. I started to notice them the time I wrote the comment. I've worn the shoes everyday since I customized them until now.
another thing that you can do with Poska markers is a sealant so that way you avoid the rubbing off when wet and the scratch resistance using some type of clearcoat helps with that now granted a lot of my projects are on wood or metal or plastic such as I do, custom skateboards but it should be able to apply to shoes
This was exactly my question, because angulus paint is leather paint ofcourse it should definitely hold up better but I was wondering if an acrylic sealer would make posca markers Or even acrylic paint hood up closer to leather paint/angulus paint
Thank you!!
I use both, along with regular Acrylic paint brands mixed equally with GAC 900 Medium for select surfaces when it comes to flexibility.
Me too it’s hard for me to say
The way I would look at it is if you’re wanting something with more vibrancy Angelus paint has a better gloss to it. If you’re looking for something to have more of a matte finish, the Poska marker works better but honestly, I would combine the two and just use Angelus paint to do it entire coating or fill in larger areas and then just use the markers to draw my design on and it would have a beautiful contrast to finish and beautiful contrast of color
If you coat over the market with Angeles clear it would act the same as the paint so that would work well with more detailed stuff anyways
From the view of someone who does not customize, draw, or paint…..the paint looks more vibrant and durable. While the pens are not; they do look to be easier to control and manage. But here’s my thought; when you know what you’re doing; like Xavier and the other customizes…..you can make it “do-what-it-do with a paint brush or a pen. Just be careful wearing your customs anywhere. Great video❤️
Thank you Shirley 💙
I love your videos, especially that they are straight to the point and not drug out for an hour. I have been learning a lot from watching you. I am just now getting into customizing shoes. I am a noob, so this may be a dumb question/comment. When you were doing the scuff test and water test, did the shoes already have the cover coat on them? If not, do you think that would have made any difference in the outcome of the test? Thanks.
He didn't clear coat it. Who's going to be scraping their shoe on a exacto knife?
I love this video! Thank you! I'm curious about putting a coat of white paint down first on the canvas shoe before doing both types of paint, compared to without as well!
*imo I haven’t tested this but I’m really sure the marker paint will hold up just fine if you seal it with a quality angelus paint finisher* I used to make the mistake of restoring my shoes with angelus paint and not adding a sealer so I noticed paint would end up chipping over wear, the sealer as it sounds seals the paint and gives it a strong bond
I think so to if you use Angelus clear coat
this ^^ people - like LiquidKicks top coats
oh & the prep e.g. acetone so it bonds
Awesome video by the way! thanks for the tips
Excellent comparison video! Absolutely loved how you clearly compared the two. Just great and super informative!
can you do a test with posca markers when you spray a hard layer over it
A lot of people forget, even though Posca markers are often described as acrylic, they are still water based so they are absolutely not gonna hold up to water or really most abuse unless they are sealed with an acrylic sealer of some kind. Angelus is a leather acrylic paint that uses a much better binder with their pigments. Overall posca is good though for most applications as long as you properly seal the work afterwards.
EXCELLENT video! You really did a great job reviewing and comparing these two paints to customize shoes. Great Job - I learned A LOT and it helped me make an informed decision.
Thank you so much!!
Congratulations on 500k!
Also live your video. Straight up n infoagivr n crisp. Keep sharing
Straight to the point video, lots of good tests, entertaining, informative🔥🔥🔥
man I love your vids cus you just really humble😊😊
Hey man thank you so much for this video on most of my custom shoes I was using Posca🤩
Posca pens are fine if you don’t plan on wearing the shoe , they don’t hold up , no matter how much prep you put into it .
Great Vid Man New Follower Granted🎉
First point posca , They are so good for customizing things like that and easy to prep!
Second point Angelus paint I love the flame! Posca is cool,I just prefer the look of angelus here!
Third point also Angelus .I wouldn’t want my shoes getting their paint scraped off like the posca,So the point goes to paint
4:56 to 5:05 me when I’m doing a presentation in front of the class💀💀
What about outline the image in posca and then fill-in with angelus paint??? Thoughts
This is cool. I customize bags and other leather goods. I've been using Posca but now I'm thinking I need to try out Angelus paint.
You have a lot of talent ❤😊
Thank you so much!
Very good video! 👍thanks 4 sharing your experiences!
Exllent review and comparison
God bless you and yours. Praying for you
Thank you , I really appreciate it 😁
Boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo I DONE THIS ONE I HATE IT!!!
Thanks for sharing? Do you need to prime the shoe
Appreciate the video. All I want to do is make some skate shoes in the colors I like. You compared and contrasted the two methods perfectly. Awesome video.
Thank you JB!
Carry on, monster ❤❤❤❤❤
I am brazilian, discovered your channel a few weeks and i love your content❤
Thank you so much
Have u ever uses mattkane markers? I kinda like em
Yooo thanks man sick ,so do you haf Then makers to draw on Then ?
Thanks bro. Amazing video.. I am starting shoe customizing
I remember the black Gucci forces 🔥 but I like Angelus better !
Same me too 😎
You are amazing! Thanks for sharing. Can you please tell me what the paper is called that you use for stencils? And where to purchase it. Thank you ❤
Thank you so much and vinyl paper I get from Michaels
Plz tell me I’m not the only one who realized how when he scraped the 1st time the blade was down and he was scratching hard. The second time blade was up and it seemed like he wasn’t even touching the paint…
Nah. 2nd time he didn’t even touch the paint
Both paints are acrylic paints. Angelus isn't any specialized leather paint, I call it "marketing trap" Most shoes aren't made of leather but of polyester, which is covered with vinyl called "eco-leather" The only difference between these paints is the packaging (one is markers and the other is paint in a jar) and the marketing target 😉Of course we shouldn't forget that there are differences in quality in acrylic paints. There are many paints on the market that are better quality than Angelus and much cheaper (because they are not for "leather" 😉) I won't give any examples because no one pays me to advertise them 😁I wish you all many successful projects👍
btw after coloring with the marker you must spray a protect film over it, without is the art useless, but that Normal
angelus and coat them with finisher, solid as rock
I'm sorry but the rubbing of that knife against the posca paint was differently than the other shoes with the Angelus paint. No fair comparison here.
✨ this Is a super video 🤩👍
You should try and review Molotow paint markers.
Did you prep both the shoes first so the paint would adhere better?
I wonder if you could use clear coat to make the poscha marker more durable.
Love the posca markers because they are easier to use .. the paint is better. But no matter what you do , u kill it EVERYTIME‼️‼️‼️ I love watching your videos! 🎉 Salute
Hi , so what about using paint sealants ? Also, overall, which is generally cheaper ?
You can use a matte finisher
Thank you for this video!
Surely if you just put a Matt (or gloss) clear top coat to hold the marker/paint on you would not get a problem with the scratching and water? Not rocket science! 🙄
Do I need to sand the shoe before applying, or putting a finisher on the paint after applied?
I like using both, Angelus is better, but posca makes it easier for me to customize shoes, I'm not that great with a paintbrush Posca does tend to flake sometimes. I wish Angelus had a good market line like posca with very small tips!
what if you seal the POSCA pen with a sealer? would it be good for water then?
its very good shoes!👟🤩
Thank you so much!
I'd use both.... outline with POSCA Markers and Angelus Leather Paint for the fill-in. However, using the paint brushes for very fine lines, Angelus Paint would be better and vibrant. Yet and still, in the right hands with skills (artistic) and mindset (creative) ideas will be great to incorporate any method. Even if some use fabric and cutting to stitching techniques to make their custom shoes or any item that much more in value!
Bit late to the party on this video but looking at ways to try and repair/ cover up the cracks on my air force 1s - would these essentially cover them? Thinking I may try customising them as well while I’m at it! Great vid btw and appreciate any responses
Can you use a mix as i think that would work really well because using the angela for larger details or painting whole parts is more effeciant and vibrant but for small drawings and details i feel adding posca would be great
Paint is soo good bro angelazz paint the posca its for 1 and angelazz shoe 4
Wouldn’t you put a sealant coat over there posca like you would Angelus? Testing the water and scrap didn’t have a top coat?
If you use like angelus 4 coat over de posca marker it does not come off in the rain
Did you use any type of Sealant, acrylic sealer on Either the Posca pen or then angulus before you scraped at them??????????? Or did the angulus just hold up that good without any sealer or acrylic finisher???????????
also what clear coat would you advise for the starter kit?
You can use gesso before you paint. Also, what if you sealed your art work on the shoe? Other shoe and hat customers I’ve seen seal it
You should always seal it, or its doomed after a wear or two
Are these paints sealed already or just raw paint?
Did you put a top clear coat on it?
Does this also apply to the foam/rubber details on shoes? I’m not a customizer but sometimes the accent color is not to my liking and would like to change it. Like right now I bought a pair of Jordan 39 “lumiere” (the all black with white hits) and I’m tempted to turn them into black cats or breds. I had a pair of Lebron 19 low “witness” which I bought a $2 black paint pen from wal-mart and blacked out the “witness” on the front and blacked out the yellow hits minus the shank plate and some foam buried behind the ankle cushion. It turned out good but within 2-3 weeks it started to flake off. I think I touched them up once, but they were beaters and I eventually had to retire them. The most difficult part was the large rubber swoosh on the side. I tried roughing it up to hold the paint better, but it didn’t work well. The paint pen would coat the swoosh but had to be done in streaks as the pen would just smear the paint if you went over it again, obviously at least 2 coats was a must.
Posca for details Angelus for big surface
Airbrush paint is another option , but the best paint I've used is Enamel paint from Craftmaster paints UK.
I feel like with the posca markers, you have more control with the paint, more than using the brush and having slight imperfections. Though, angelus paint is way more durable, and doesnt chip as much as posca does.
ur airbrush link is the same link to the paint brushes.
Any recommendations for paint for vans?
Where are your chain from Xavier?
@xavier I’ve been searching for the right airbrush that goes with the compressor you dropped but the links don’t match. It’s still the paintbrush link. 😢😢 and I cannot locate the tape either. Please help ❤️
Is the posca marker good for dyeing stitching without painting the leather? Thats what I would use it for
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@Xavier Kickz do u use acetone and scratch the shoes before customising?
Was the shoe with the Posca marker sealed after it was painted?
Can you use posca pens for minor restoration?
Yes
THANK YOU for calling them markers! Every video I watch the text to speech voice is like:”Poesca Pins!”
your great at it
Do you think Angelus paint would hold up well on EVA foam? As well as polyurethane ?
I'm looking to paint all in black my EVADICT TR2 trail but can't find anything but Sneakers and I don't know exactly what material they're made of.
Can you try fabric spray paint?
Hi which to use for polyeuthrane paint?
So paint for large coloring. Marker for detail?.
I would say yea!
Does these paint wash off from the shoes?
The Angelus paint shoes probably got a finisher in test. Did the poscar shoes had some layers of finisher too? Doesnt look like to me.
Did you put a coating finish for both?
Thanks for the vid! Someone told me posca markers will last longer, but I disagree.
do you have to use finisher on angelus paint if you are wearing them and if so do you mix it in with the paint or do you apply it afterwards
Never heard of angles paint so I’m on team posca markers
THIS HELPED ME CUSTOMIZE MY AIR FORCES!!
For more durability, spray the shoe with some clear rock guard from auto zone👍
"Some people wear customs in the rain"
"What?!!!!" 🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂
If you put a finisher on Posca pens, it’s fine. I wear them to school and it does fine
I wanna make custom nike air max for breast cancer month....i already bought a bunch of posca markers after watching one of your videos....with all these test did you spray the shoe then do the test were these test done before you sprayed the shoe?
As someone that is just starting out how do you get your shoes in bulk? I do want to start selling my work