Use Your iPad as a Drawing Tablet for Any PC App!

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  • Опубліковано 23 гру 2024

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  • @jayjayjesus
    @jayjayjesus Рік тому +36

    also couldve mentioned its a paid subscription service

    • @DamionEdits
      @DamionEdits 7 місяців тому +2

      wait seriously.?

    • @marilynma218
      @marilynma218 7 місяців тому +3

      19.99 per month😭I mean buying a tablet is probebly 200ish and 200 can only use this app for a yr n half but if the tablet doesnt break i can use it for life time...

    • @handle__
      @handle__ 6 місяців тому

      it's either 5 usd per month or 12 usd lifetime

  • @manu.vision
    @manu.vision 3 роки тому +42

    Again, great tutorial! I have the iPad Pro since 2019 and tried the workflow with my Macbook... but ever since I built a Windows PC, I stopped using it. Now I can finally get the best of both worlds 🥲
    Thank you 🙏🏽
    Also, I’d love a tutorial about sculpting on Blender to add to this one and learn the basics to at least caress the hope to get as close as possible to this beautiful Lion figure 🦁

  • @SarahLoveDeer
    @SarahLoveDeer 3 роки тому +38

    0:46 im getting so nervous seeing him wave around his ipad with the pencil connected to it HOW IS IT STAYING THERE AND NOT FALLING OFF

    • @ShawnJohnsonCronus
      @ShawnJohnsonCronus 3 роки тому +10

      the newer pros have magnets for the apple pencil

    • @jake-ly
      @jake-ly  3 роки тому +12

      The magnets are pretty good

  • @kane1253
    @kane1253 2 роки тому +9

    is there a way to calibrate the apple pencil? I find that where the pencil touches on the ipad doesn't match where the cursor is

  • @deplo
    @deplo 10 місяців тому +14

    You should make it clear beforehand that the app is subscription-based.

    • @Hediy3
      @Hediy3 13 днів тому

      thank you

  • @Lord_Canti_ink
    @Lord_Canti_ink 9 місяців тому +4

    2024 and Im wondering if this is still the best method you know, any advise on what to use for blender?

    • @TanijaTheFaun
      @TanijaTheFaun 8 місяців тому +1

      Would love to know if you found something, because I am having the same question right now

    • @aysuaydogdu1102
      @aysuaydogdu1102 8 днів тому

      Lmk if you find anything

  • @davidg260
    @davidg260 4 роки тому +48

    im new here. I have this setup too . i was wondering . how do you get started sculpting in blender. I mean the easiest way using this setup. Thank you

    • @jake-ly
      @jake-ly  4 роки тому +15

      My two favourite channel to learn sculpting in Blender has been Grant Abbitt, he's really good at running through the basics ua-cam.com/video/lKY2FIy60nc/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/KAwTqpjNhcQ/v-deo.html

  • @Hijab_Diffusion
    @Hijab_Diffusion 4 роки тому +3

    use duet to get the screen as secondary display instead of mirroring, then use easy canvas so you can get the missing features.

  • @bearhugsplans
    @bearhugsplans 3 роки тому +4

    Would this be smooth enough for taking notes?

  • @CorneliousRR
    @CorneliousRR 3 роки тому +40

    The main issue I have been having with programs like this and DuetDisplay too is that for some reason the programs aren't recognizing Pencil input properly. Like I will be trying to draw lines in Photoshop and they are at really harsh angles and don't follow my strokes at all, or like in Clip Studio Paint where it follows my Pencil and even has pressure, but the cursor is offset by about an inch or so from where the actual point is. Can't quite figure out what's wrong with it.

    • @jake-ly
      @jake-ly  Рік тому +9

      There is a calibration step inside EasyCanvas to help with this. The other issue could be your wireless signal or usb cable. Make sure you have a good USB3.0 (blue end) or C data cable

  • @DeathChronx
    @DeathChronx 2 роки тому +1

    This is blowing my mind! I just found out it even works wirelessly! Although, I do have a Bluetooth dongle on my PC, so maybe that why?

  • @TheAyushMalla
    @TheAyushMalla Рік тому +1

    I have mac and ipad. But when I try to 3D model using sidecar it doesn’t go well. Is using sidecar useful or third party app is better?

  • @dingdongjoke4171
    @dingdongjoke4171 2 роки тому +2

    i wanted this to work. i really did. but whenever i open any apps, it opens on my pc but not on my ipad. its like it’s using my ipad as if it were a second monitor. the mouse can leave my pc screen and appear on my ipad screen, kind of like two monitors can do, but i want my ipad to be the main screen. i dont know how to fix it and i lost my mind.

  • @julianhartinger4449
    @julianhartinger4449 3 роки тому +4

    2 Questions about that:
    1: does it also works on „older“ ipad pros?
    2: Does the ipad charge while plugged into your pc?
    Because while working over 4 hours my ipad is empty of power 😅. Otherwise cool video and cute doggo ☺️👍🏻

  • @juancarloshorta1934
    @juancarloshorta1934 2 роки тому +3

    So in this case what you do is to duplicate the screen base on the amount of screen space you select on the app, correct? Is there a way to extend the screen and use the Ipad as a second monitor? Somthing like what appnes when you connect a citniq to the PC?

  • @dark_Ultima
    @dark_Ultima 3 роки тому +1

    so i have a question. i can see that you use and usb-c cable to the ipad, but whats the other end?

  • @tiffanynajera6642
    @tiffanynajera6642 4 роки тому +4

    I am a teacher and want to use my ipad to help me teach math, how can I set it up so I can write equations and show on my main pc

  • @UrbanCha0s
    @UrbanCha0s 7 місяців тому

    So can you just use this to annotate on your screen? I.E. When using teams/Webex etc to write on screen?

  • @enjoycaloy
    @enjoycaloy 5 місяців тому +1

    Does it work in Adobe illustrator?

  • @futurerealmstech
    @futurerealmstech Рік тому

    I am teaching English remotely and want to screen share what I'm writing or drawing with students. I'm wondering how well this solution will work. What are your thoughts?

  • @kibzod6040
    @kibzod6040 3 роки тому +4

    Can I run it with ipad 10.2 inch?
    Does it lag while connected through Lighting to usb cable?

    • @jake-ly
      @jake-ly  3 роки тому

      It worked with my older iPad Pro with the lightning cable, but I'm unsure about regular iPads

    • @theshulibrk8964
      @theshulibrk8964 3 роки тому

      @@jake-ly im running pro version on regular 10.2 inch and its running smooth with absolutely no issues 😃

  • @BethCurran
    @BethCurran Рік тому

    Will this work for an iPad and MacBook Air? I use Powerpoint for my presentations and would like to be able to use my iPad as a drawing pad to annotate as I present. I've run into many problems using the iPad only with Powerpoint. I appreciate your help!

  • @keal.vietnam
    @keal.vietnam 2 роки тому +2

    I want to ask you a question? Does the pen pressure when drawing sculping on ipad and apple pencil 2 in Blender?

  • @Retro_80s_Guy
    @Retro_80s_Guy 3 роки тому

    Thanks for this....but did you mention in the video which iPads this will work on?

  • @spirit5923
    @spirit5923 8 місяців тому

    Do you know of any options for remotely connecting and drawing? I know this app supports it, but they require an initial connection via USB to set it up. I have a friend who cannot learn blender due to lack of tools and no options to get one, but they have an iPad. I'm trying to set up my server PC as something they can connect to and utilize blender on to learn. This is the best option I found but it just doesn't fit the bill sadly.

  • @octoyas9324
    @octoyas9324 Рік тому +2

    I hear easy canvas costs, are there any free alternatives?

    • @iangillan1296
      @iangillan1296 10 місяців тому

      no, only way more expensive

  • @radspiderjackson
    @radspiderjackson Рік тому

    yooo i know this vid old but what is your keyboard/keycap combo? love the colors

  • @couchgamingnews9379
    @couchgamingnews9379 4 роки тому +10

    wait so can i use it on blenders 2d animation with apple pencil pressure sensitivity ?

    • @jake-ly
      @jake-ly  4 роки тому +11

      Yep I use it with grease pencil all the time. Its pretty awesome

  • @mrNOVA115
    @mrNOVA115 4 роки тому +1

    You said ask any questions, my question is, can you use this as a drawing tablet without an apple pencil? Like just use your finger or stylus?

    • @jake-ly
      @jake-ly  4 роки тому +2

      I'm pretty sure you can

  • @mayapower9899
    @mayapower9899 3 роки тому

    an u help me in some thing .i am asking about mouse support (left + right click+ middle click + scroll) + can u test chrome remote desktop(windows pc from iPad ) mouse support

  • @akshayk9091
    @akshayk9091 4 роки тому +2

    How much latency is there please tell me 🙏🏻

  • @coughinggraphite
    @coughinggraphite Рік тому +1

    Hi, not sure you're gonna see this message, as it's been quite a while since you posted the video, but are you able to use the Magic Keyboard while using Blender on easy canvas? Or do you have to use a keyboard connected to your computer?

  • @CaioLemos-GraduacaoNerd
    @CaioLemos-GraduacaoNerd Рік тому

    Great video! I'm searching for a way of taking notes on iPad and see it in real time on the windows screen. Hope the easy canvas works for that.

  • @highmagiclowlife
    @highmagiclowlife 3 роки тому

    do you think the app would work with alternatives to apple pencils that work for the ipad?

  • @bacongod8315
    @bacongod8315 3 роки тому

    do you need that big pc to make this work? im useing a mac and i just plug it in the back of the mac? it has a usb slot so?

  • @soncho.editz1
    @soncho.editz1 Рік тому

    Can I use a 2 in 1 laptop to do something like this ??

  • @chilledcherrygaming5429
    @chilledcherrygaming5429 4 роки тому +59

    Do I need a dog, can I use a cat?…or child

  • @StudioSpace-t9l
    @StudioSpace-t9l 14 днів тому

    Can I use it from my windows laptop to my iPad (m4)

  • @Ten0_YT
    @Ten0_YT 2 роки тому

    any possibility to make this wireless?

  • @antonysoever
    @antonysoever 3 роки тому +1

    Hello, just would like to ask , the connecting cable has to be Type C on both side ? If my PC doesn’t has type C socket, jay USB , would it lower the speed of touching ? And how about the wireless one ( WIFI) , Easy Canvas Pro, any experience to share with us ? Many thanks for your reply.

    • @fromwalou4683
      @fromwalou4683 3 роки тому

      have you test usb c to usb cable ? i'm looking for something work

  • @jagz888
    @jagz888 4 роки тому +14

    Hi Jake, thanks for the demo, would like to hear how responsive this is compared to Duet, how much lag in comparison?, also have you tried using this with Zbrush ?

    • @jake-ly
      @jake-ly  4 роки тому +10

      I only tried Duet with my Macbook, but they were pretty comparable. There's almost no input lag, but EasyCanvas seems to lose a bit of resolution occasionally. It seems to bias consistent input over visual quality if that makes sense

    • @r6igtgash375
      @r6igtgash375 3 роки тому +1

      @@jake-ly HOW DO I DELETE THE FREE TRIAL PLEASE HELP

    • @rulerzreachf4n200
      @rulerzreachf4n200 3 роки тому +1

      @@r6igtgash375 I think it’ll delete itself? I’m kinda wondering the same thing. I don’t have any payment method put on my iPad so I’m like uM it let me do the free trial? Usually apps don’t.

    • @rulerzreachf4n200
      @rulerzreachf4n200 3 роки тому +1

      @@r6igtgash375 hey it’s been a month btw what happened

  • @rayysvideos
    @rayysvideos 3 роки тому

    Heyo!!! The resolution is like, really bad whenever i open it on my tablet; the quality looks super pixelated. Anyway i can fix that?

  • @utsav8530
    @utsav8530 4 роки тому

    can we use mouse right click option with this app with apple pencil ? I mean not through mouse , through apple pencil

  • @estebanr457
    @estebanr457 4 роки тому +11

    How do you only have 300 subs? The editing and set in your videos are aesthetically pleasing and effective

    • @littleripper312
      @littleripper312 4 роки тому +5

      He only has 3 videos that's why. If he posted a few times a month he would build up subs.

  • @teabagNBG
    @teabagNBG 3 роки тому +1

    i want to get me ipad for this reasson... im looking at apps wich can do this... i saw the duet app has a light lag when drawing... is this also the case witha cable app?

    • @jake-ly
      @jake-ly  3 роки тому

      Not as much if you have a good cable. They seem to trade of latency for resolution, in the sense it gets lower resolution when your bandwidth is lower, but the latency always seems rock solid

    • @teabagNBG
      @teabagNBG Рік тому

      @@jake-ly just got me the m2 pro 11 inch this xmas ... and somehow came across this video again :D ... i tried a few solutions and i have to say the wifi solution works perfect i cant feel no real lag at all i was expecting way more lag.. but its actually better than any remote desktop i ever tried.. i have no clue what they did but im really amazed how good it runs... i havent noticed any difference in resolution yet its the same with cable or with wifi... maybe its because i only have a 1080 desktop screen lol

  • @magicpumpkins6518
    @magicpumpkins6518 3 роки тому

    Hi I am using Astropad and when I scale my object with apple pencil in this app does not to same as doing when I am using with mouse.I press the S button and when I move my mouse the object scaling either but object grows strangely when I click on the screen once while using the apple stylus. how is solve this problem ??

  • @Bread853
    @Bread853 4 роки тому +1

    Do you need the usb c cable, or can you just use an iPad charger?

    • @amaribrent
      @amaribrent 4 роки тому +1

      i saw someone just use the charger

    • @jake-ly
      @jake-ly  4 роки тому +2

      Just the charging cable is fine, although really really short

  • @anastasiacojocari-goncear6028
    @anastasiacojocari-goncear6028 3 роки тому

    It can be made for MacBook too?

  • @lea-anon
    @lea-anon Рік тому

    Help, the apple pencil is uncalibrated (the cursor on my screen is not following the tip of my pen.) What do I do?

  • @arpit.kahar1
    @arpit.kahar1 Рік тому

    does it works on iPad mini version ? ipad mini 6 ?

  • @kikomefoxy5966
    @kikomefoxy5966 3 роки тому +1

    I'm having some trouble. When I use my apple pencil, I'll sketch a line and it ends up not being the place I sketched on the iPad and ends up in a different place. I forgot what that problem is called, it's not synced correctly? Is there anyway to fix that? Thank you for the video!

    • @DanzyRemix
      @DanzyRemix 3 роки тому

      not calibrated correctly is probably the term

    • @kikomefoxy5966
      @kikomefoxy5966 3 роки тому

      @@DanzyRemix This! Thank you so much I couldn't find the term to save my life lol

  • @mr.jsingh2384
    @mr.jsingh2384 4 роки тому +2

    Which iPad your are using

    • @jake-ly
      @jake-ly  3 роки тому +2

      2020 11in Pro

    • @flyinggecko3322
      @flyinggecko3322 2 роки тому

      @@jake-lyHow do you find this size? Do you go out with it a lot as well? Tho if it’s on the 12.9? Feel a bit unsure on going either 11 or 12.9. I would like the portability but also seems like it would be good to have larger on blender. But seems it’s fine to use the 11. Inch though…thoughts now after 1 year?

  • @ria9542
    @ria9542 3 роки тому

    It also work on tablets right?

  • @jonathanluganda3305
    @jonathanluganda3305 2 роки тому +3

    Thank you for the video!
    Does the iPad recognizes your hand after the mode has been switched to a pencil because you seemingly do not touch the screen as you draw and if so did that make learning to use this method a little uncomfortable?

  • @Gr4vespizza
    @Gr4vespizza 2 роки тому

    i have to use app pensil? (i didnt waccht the vid all the way

  • @pcmclasses2809
    @pcmclasses2809 3 роки тому

    Cant we mirror ipad on pc with this app?
    I hope this app has no lag.

  • @afia7710
    @afia7710 2 роки тому

    How do I stop the subscription? I don’t want to use the program anymore

  • @carolinaignaciabustamanteu6425

    I have a second generation Ipad (C input) and I would need a cable, but according to me there is no type C (apple) to usb cable. 😭😭😭 If anyone knows how and/or where to buy this table please help me

  • @jayjayjesus
    @jayjayjesus Рік тому

    Hey is ur pfp ai genereated?

  • @janosgyerman
    @janosgyerman 4 роки тому +1

    is the charging cable from ipad good enough?

    • @jake-ly
      @jake-ly  4 роки тому +3

      Yep it definitely is! I just found it a bit short, at least on the latest iPad Pro

    • @janosgyerman
      @janosgyerman 4 роки тому +1

      @@jake-ly thanks for your quick response. I will sculpt with blender though.

  • @mouradeid5457
    @mouradeid5457 3 роки тому +1

    do I need my pc to support thunderbolt to use this? also in the video I see that the cursor points below the pen, is that true or is it just the camera?

    • @jake-ly
      @jake-ly  3 роки тому +1

      Nope worked with regular USB for me. I think this may be how Blender is projecting the cursor onto geometry, I haven't noticed it being off position

  • @prettygoodradio
    @prettygoodradio 3 роки тому +11

    Thank you! I'm sure this information isn't hidden, but I love a good succinct video that shows me what I need to see. Liked! Subscribed!

  • @polar6066
    @polar6066 Рік тому

    what ipad size would you recommend for this? i got a s7fe for uni myself (not for art) and while its 12.4 size is cool, its super uncomfortable when i have to give it other uses, like when holding it. so it becomes very limited

  • @ifteemon1644
    @ifteemon1644 3 роки тому

    How much for the app in app store?
    I'm a broke a$$ Digital artist and I'm confused if I should get a 22in Huin Camvas or an I pad And use like this.

  • @biancabechisi8124
    @biancabechisi8124 3 роки тому

    Great. But I can't get my apple pencil to draw in Photoshop.. I can select all the tools with the pencil, but when drawing.. it does nothing... Only moves the cursor without leaving any mark. In clip studio paint it works great.. but I need it to work with Photoshop for photo editing.

  • @zoranradul8424
    @zoranradul8424 2 роки тому

    Did it work on ipad mini?

  • @saranmt1
    @saranmt1 2 роки тому

    Anybody ever got a mouse connected to ipad work with right click drag, or middle click drag? some apps don't have the emmulator ...

  • @subject3dm967
    @subject3dm967 2 роки тому

    what is the pressure level

  • @artwithmiahong
    @artwithmiahong 4 роки тому +3

    Hi, thank you for the video. I am using the easy canvas trial right now, it works pretty smoothly but I am experiencing a lot of blurriness when I expand. Are u also experiencing this, or is it just me?

  • @sonia_kcl2816
    @sonia_kcl2816 4 роки тому +5

    You deserve way more followers

  • @kbillotta
    @kbillotta 4 роки тому

    How didi you get the full screen windows on the ipad without any black bars?

    • @jake-ly
      @jake-ly  4 роки тому

      The four arrow icon lets you move and place the screen. I only mirror half of my monitor

  • @mrtnalvrz
    @mrtnalvrz 2 роки тому

    Tried this software. I have an old Mini 4 that I wanted to repurpose, but it just so happen that the software DOES NOT recognize any 3rd party stylus.You have to use the Apple stylus (whatever name has), and iPad Mini 4 IS NOT compatible with that stylus.

  • @Theodorhubert1803
    @Theodorhubert1803 3 роки тому

    can you use this for any app?

  • @bug3292
    @bug3292 4 роки тому +2

    Awesome video! Can you do this on a laptop?

  • @blahber222
    @blahber222 4 роки тому

    have ya tried running PS? my cintiq finally died so I downloaded EasyCanvas but I don't have pen pressure on photoshop at all. I installed both EasyCanvas & EasyCanvas Pro and same problem.

    • @jake-ly
      @jake-ly  4 роки тому

      I seem to be getting it. I know it functions via the Windows Ink apis. Maybe that needs updating? Does it work with other programs?

    • @blahber222
      @blahber222 4 роки тому

      @@jake-ly no pen pressure in the following programs: blender, photoshop. krita
      tried absolutely everything. uninstalled every program and re-download it again just to double make sure. :(

  • @maximecharron5053
    @maximecharron5053 Рік тому

    I have a problem, I Only get a dark screen on the ipad side...

  • @justniels8052
    @justniels8052 3 роки тому

    can i do it without apple pencil

  • @mqt101
    @mqt101 4 роки тому +3

    Hey, great tutorial! Was just wondering if you had any exprience with connecting an air to the mac to use blender? Trying to weigh up which one to buy! :) Any advice appreciated

    • @jake-ly
      @jake-ly  4 роки тому +1

      Sidecar should work pretty well for Apple to Apple mirroring. I think it has pen pressure too support.apple.com/en-us/HT210380

  • @GrayVixen
    @GrayVixen 3 роки тому

    Can you do this with photoshop??

  • @piotr803
    @piotr803 4 роки тому

    Do your neck hurts after a while being hunched over the Ipad? cheers

    • @jake-ly
      @jake-ly  4 роки тому +1

      Yeah a little 😅. I'm trying to find the best setup to raise it up a bit like Wacom tablets do, but nothing keeps it sturdy enough for my liking. Would love some suggestions!

  • @jaeswag4921
    @jaeswag4921 4 роки тому

    Anybody know if I have a surface go if it will be powerful enough to do this and not be laggy

  • @travonvon9810
    @travonvon9810 4 роки тому +9

    OMGGGGGGG!!!!! Gotta go get me a USB-C cable!!!! Thanks!!!

  • @ParixDidntDie
    @ParixDidntDie 3 роки тому

    Just checking- Is the USB cable a USB-C to USB-A cable?

    • @jake-ly
      @jake-ly  3 роки тому +1

      You can use either. I have links to both I've used in the past that work well in the description. I like c to c cause of the extra bandwidth if you have the port on your pc

    • @ParixDidntDie
      @ParixDidntDie 3 роки тому

      @@jake-ly Oh okay! Thanks!

  • @Dartr
    @Dartr 3 роки тому

    Do you use Ipad Pro or Air? Is it important?

  • @Jus4Rob
    @Jus4Rob 3 роки тому

    This might be a dumb question but can you use photoshop with this

    • @jake-ly
      @jake-ly  3 роки тому

      you definitely can! It mirrors all of the pen inputs to your PC. Pen pressure, angle, position, etc and acts like any other tablet

  • @AteistPaladin
    @AteistPaladin 3 роки тому

    Does it work for zbrush too?

  • @那一年梦中
    @那一年梦中 3 роки тому

    Usb cable and pc port are what kind of shape?

    • @jake-ly
      @jake-ly  3 роки тому

      I did USB-C to C, but you can do C to A, and lightning to A as well depending on your device

  • @TheRenwar
    @TheRenwar 3 роки тому

    does this work for maya?

  • @admirmehic8552
    @admirmehic8552 3 роки тому

    Does this work with the older ipad pro from 2016?

  • @johnpatrickyalung4856
    @johnpatrickyalung4856 Рік тому

    what ipad you use?

  • @the_RCB_films
    @the_RCB_films 4 роки тому +8

    Would be epic if instead of mirrored display we could just do a copy of the program its self and do a capture of that instead.

  • @davidbeckett8174
    @davidbeckett8174 2 роки тому

    How do i download load it on my

  • @g0oob
    @g0oob 4 роки тому +111

    Wanna use this on osu lol

  • @SometimesHere-x8e
    @SometimesHere-x8e 4 місяці тому

    Is there any free app I can use?

  • @pb_sandwhich
    @pb_sandwhich 4 роки тому

    Can I use a charger?

  • @那一年梦中
    @那一年梦中 3 роки тому

    What does the usb cable and pc port look like?

    • @jake-ly
      @jake-ly  3 роки тому

      C to C on the latest iPad Pros. I use an active cable to get a good connection

  • @FarazShykh
    @FarazShykh 3 роки тому

    Questions?
    1. Is Apple pencil is necessary for this app
    2. Can we use only our finger?

  • @DuckyShorty
    @DuckyShorty Рік тому

    +1 for easy canvas

  • @michellejade3778
    @michellejade3778 4 роки тому +1

    Is it only pc? Or i can use it on laptop?

    • @amelia_grz
      @amelia_grz 4 роки тому +2

      ...pc means personal computer... so yes

  • @javidhoseyni8873
    @javidhoseyni8873 4 роки тому

    Great review. I wanna buy a tablet for digital art, 3D sculpting and game development and I'm not sure which tablet has the lowest latency in this workflow ( using tablet as a digitizer ), Ipad with EasyCanvas app or Tab S with SuperDisplay app!? Which one do you recommend? despite the price and buying separate Apple Pencil!

    • @jake-ly
      @jake-ly  4 роки тому +3

      I haven't tried the Tab S unfortunately, but with the new iPads allowing pen support its getting cheaper than needing an iPad Pro like before, especially ones that use the original Apple pencil which you can often find on sale

    • @javidhoseyni8873
      @javidhoseyni8873 4 роки тому +1

      @@jake-ly Thank you for the fast reply and content :)