Mel Gibson's character is very loosely based on a man very well known here in South Carolina. His name was Francis Marion. The "Swamp Fox". His guerrilla tactics tied up and harassed the British Army for a couple of years here in SC. The Colonel Tavington in the movie is loosely based on Colonel Banastre Tarleton, a Dragoon, under the command of Lord Cornwallis. Tarlton is well know as being very ruthless and cold blooded. The final battle scene in the movie is based on an actual battle. The Battle of Cowpens, near the small town of Chesnee, South Carolina, which was a victory for the Americans, and the turning point in the Revolutionary War. Francis Marion was not at this battle, but Tarlton was. Also, Field Marshal Erwin Rommel of the 2nd World War, studied the tactics of Francis Marion the "Swamp Fox" and applied some of them in WW II and hence was to be known as the "Desert Fox". Playing off of Marion's "Swamp Fox" name.
His character was an amalgamation of Francis Marion, Daniel Morgan, and Nathanael Greene. They used the Battle of Cowpens as an example for the battle when Tavington was killed. The Battle of Cowpens was famous due to Morgan executing a Double Envelopment.
Sorry, Tarleton (the actual commander) survived Cowpens although his soldiers were soundly defeated and almost destroyed. Tarleton lived and commanded for the British in several more wars.
But Mel learned how to act in Australia and by his first film his Aussie accent was almost as broad as Steve Irwin the Crocodile Hunter. It was Mad Max that truly gave him a Hollywood career.
Interesting fact, most of the extras in this were made up of Historical Reenactors, who brought their own muskets, uniforms, tents, etc. Mel Gibson was freaked out that the Reenactors, at the end of the day's shooting, instead of going off to a motel or something, they retired to their camps, started their fires, and began cooking dinner. The Reenactors camped and lived on the battlefield locations as if it actually was 1776. I am personal friends (and a fellow Reenactor) with a number of them.
WHOA!!!! Party foul!! Mel Gibson was born and raised in New York until the age of 9 or10 when his dad got a job overseas in Australia, he's still an American playing an American in the movie, so continuity is still intact. Anyway, loved the review, love you guys, take care and stay safe ❤️
I love Jason Isaacs as Colonel Tavington. I don’t know if you noticed but he also played Lucious Molfoy in the Harry Potter movies. Plays such an awesome bad guy that you truly hate.
He also voiced Commander Zhao in ‘Avatar: The Last Airbender’. He never seemed as villainous in that role, at least to me, as in some of his other roles. Probably because he dropped his English accent for it, lol
8:00 Had to fight that way. Muskets were so inaccurate at range that being spread out would've made them ineffective, especially if both sides were taking cover. Marching abreast and firing a unified wall of lead ensured damage to the enemy. The gentlemanly way to battle for the period was to have close packed opposing units meet on open ground, exhange a volley or two, and then charge after whittling each other down. Infantry being close together also protected them from cavalry charges because they could form up into a square with bayonets out and inner rows firing to keep the horses from charging straight through. 11:30 Tavington is a dragoon, mounted infantry with a short rifle or musket that could also act as cavalry. Cornwallis detests Tavington for his frequent charging into retreating soldiers after unit cohesion is already broken. Among other things, it just shows he's no gentleman.
The rocking chairs were built by a Master Craftsman near me. He built them the way he always did, to last, not as props. During filming, the prop department couldn't get them to break because of how well they were made. They had to keep cutting them until they finally broke.
That cute little girl you kept commenting on was Skye McCole Bartusiak who died at the age of 21 in 2014. With her death 6 years after Heath Ledger's, that made 2 of the performer's who played Martin's kids dead. Mel Gibson is not strictly Australian. He was born and raised in Peekskill, New York. The family moved to Australia when Mel was 10 because his father had health problems. So Gibson is actually an American.
The move was to keep his sons out of the Vietnam War. I'm glad to see others know he's American. I see everyone say he's Australian. Doing Mad Max and having an accent for a while probably aided this perception.
“I love Freedom.” “Amen to that.” Amen to that, indeed. Love those shirts ya’ll are wearing as well. Love this film and put it on every year. Even tho it’s not entirely historically accurate, damn does it encapsulate the passion for Independence!
The American Revolution was officially from 1775-1783. Actually, Benjamin "The Ghost" Martin in the film is based on the real-life Brigadier General Francis Marion, known in those days as "The Swamp Fox. "Butcher" Tavington in this film is based on the real-life Colonel Banastre "Butcher" Tarleton, who commanded a regiment of dragoons--mostly colonials who remained loyal to King George III. On May 29, 1780 Tarleton won the lop-sided Battle of The Waxhaws in northern South Carolina. Tarleton lost control of his men, who believed Tarleton had been killed, and they then murdered many of the surrendered Continentals. The British lost 5 killed; the colonials lost 113 killed. (The disparity in those numbers reflects the killing of prisoners.) As a result, Tarleton earned the name of "Butcher" among the colonists. Surrendering was referred to as "quarter." Many Continentals subsequently shot surrendering British soldiers and called such an act "Tarleton's Quarter" in revenge. Tarleton was eventually promoted to general officer and later WAS a member of Parliament. So, whatever shame may have accrued from his men killing surrendered soldiers certainly did not hold him back from advancement. (The Waxhaws is what Gabriel briefly alluded to when he told his father at their home that the British dragoons charged into the Virginia regulars). It was indeed a bloody, terrible war. (I graduated college in South Carolina with a major in history and had the great opportunity to visit the battlefields and key locations of both the Revolutionary War and the Civil War. Regards the Revolution, SC was surprisingly the scene of more engagements than any other colony. As the war dragged-on, and as the populace became more and more polarized over actual and rumored war crimes, the fighting became neighbor-against-neighbor and for all practical purposes, people could no longer play both sides. it was a civil war within the state.)
It's a cool period piece telling the story of the Revolution, but it's piss poor history. If the British had ever torched a church full of people we would still be at war today. The truth is the British fought the war pretty honorably with the most remembered atrocity being dubbed "the Boston Massacre" but it was nothing of the sort. The soldiers were successfully defended by none other than future president John Adams who showed that they were truly acting in self defense from a mob that was throwing rocks and about to overrun them.
Its a GREAT yeehaw american movie about our foundation. BUT its not as accurate as people think it was. Also.... i'm assuming Mel Gibson he said the same thing when filming "passion of the Christ" " How evil do you want the jews to be Mr. Gibson?" We can all watch the police dash cam footage of Mel Gibson on youtube to understand how he feels about jewish people :/ haha he's a good actor/director... but a pretty shit human being.
@@vertigo4567 - At the time they were pretty much running Hollywood, and treating him like crap. When pulled over, he was drunk and saying nasty things. Lets not assume the things he said while smashed... are the things he really believes.
@@NecramoniumVideo Isaacs as Gregory Zhukov in The Death of Stalin is one of the greatest comedic supporting roles I've ever seen. The man can do anything!
@@Slayer-x4j What a 2nd term of my president Trump looks like closed border cheap gas and food no wars taxes go down more money in my poor hard working tyring make a living pocket strong arm forces oh! yeah! lets not forget puttind america and its people first illegal drugs and guns and sex traffican goes down Joe Biden is hands down the worst president that the USA has every had sorry just facts.
The drums and music performed 2 tasks . One was to keep cadence as they moved forward. The drums also served to communicate tactics over the large fields because shouting wouldn't work and it would also give them away. The way they fought was all about marksmanship. The better shots took the field and the battle.
It was more about the lack of rifling. The balls would bounce in the muzzle despite the paper sabot before ejecting causing them to be inaccurate at range. Using Line formations was a way to be sure a wall of lead would have the most coverage and get the most shots possible on target. Edited for typos.
Cornwallis was undefeated in battle until Yorktown. And after the Revolutionary War he was assigned to India where he went on to an undefeated record in battle. The only “blemish” on his record was losing to “rustics and farmers with pitchforks”. He was a brilliant strategist and tactician. He could also be very cold. In a battle in North Carolina that was going badly for his army, he made a desperate decision to have his artillery fire into the center of the melee killing many of his own soldiers but succeeded in breaking up the melee and drove the Continental army back. He was brilliant and he knew it. Yorktown really wasn’t his fault either. General Clinton was supposed to send him reinforcements from New York but failed to do so because he was certain Washington was moving to attack New York. Which was a huge strategic deception by Washington which allowed him and the French to encircle Cornwallis in Yorktown and utterly defeat him. So embarrassed by this defeat was Cornwallis that he sent out his subordinate colonel to present the sword of surrender to Washington, instead of doing what honor prescribed in the commanding officer to present the surrender. Famous. I’m glad they included that in the movie. It’s also interesting that they gave Mel Gibson’s character the line about firing two shots before retreating at Cow Pen, which is what that fictional battle was loosely based on. That line was actually said almost verbatim by Daniel Webster at Cow Pen where his militia and Continental regulars utterly defeated Col Tarlton. Same strategy was used in that battle. Also, you asked why they played music during combat. It served an important purpose. To provide a rhythm for all formations to work off of, and to serve as a moral booster. Also some commands could be disseminated via the drums and later trumpets. Unit flags were also important. And finally, people often ridicule the seemingly absurd tactic of lining up opposite to one another and shooting. Remember that muskets were absurdly inaccurate at the time. So the most common way of taking advantage of large army numbers was to gather or group into in-depth firing lines. Coordinated volleys of fire ensured that a clustered wall of hot lead was sent toward the enemy guaranteeing that several opposing soldiers would be struck. However, Gen. Lafayette (Continental commander) began incorporating gorilla tactics to great success, that required very fast movements and the use of cover and camouflage. Guerrilla tactics were used some prior to Lafayette, but he began using it and refining techniques with the Continental regulars. But that could only work with a more disciplined army which slowly developed over the course of the war, especially at Valley Forge when they were galvanized into a much more disciplined and professional army. Many lessons were learned early through defeat, that allowed the continentals to eventually have greater success against a superior British army.
Funny story: I was the youngest and only boy w/ 3 older sisters. I was getting past the age where most kids start talking, so my parents took me to a doctor. After finding out I had 3 older sisters, the doctor was like "No wonder he hasn't spoken, he probably can't get a word in!" LOL
"What about Jean"? Don't worry about our Frenchie friend Jean. Right after American Independence, France is gonna be real busy with a small thingy called the French Revolution and another little thingy called Napoleon Bonaparte.
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Support for the War cost the French almost everything.A lot of their colonies fell to the British and the King lost his head.
it baffles me that in just 20 years after the American Revolution, European armies with 100's of thousands of men are gonna clash while in America, it was only 10's of thousands of men clashing.
The Irony is by helping America, France itself went bankrupt and feel into it's own revolution, and Britain turned out just fine and actually went on to enlarge their empire.
Braveheart too. My favorite scene is when he removes the helmet to find Robert the Bruce fighting with the English. They have a conversation with nothing but their eyes. Some of the best acting I've ever seen.
For those who don't know, some of the founding fathers were as young as teenagers, fighting a war for independence. Others were in their 20s. Franklin was the oldest, being in his 70s.
11 of the Founding father's ages at signing of Declaration of Independance...None in their teens, 2 in their twenties, 2 pushing 40, and 6 were over 40 John Adams-41 Thomas Jefferson-33 Ben Franklin-70 Alexander Hamilton-21 George Washington-44 James Madison-25 Sam Adams-54 Roger Sherman-55 John Hancock-39 Charles Carroll-53 You were about as incorrect, as you were correct...
The Patriot was a big hit here in the Philippines way back in 2000. I saw it inside the local cinema on a Friday night and all the seats were filled up! As the movie played, there were varied reactions from the audience ranging from gasps to cheers.
Mel Gibson grew up in Australia but he was born in the U.S. His family moved to Australia when he was 11 or 12 years old so he is actually an American. Happy 4th of July!
The priest in this movie is played by the late Rene aberjonois, he is known for playing the priest in m.a.s.h the movie, also his seven year stint on the show star trek deep space nine, as the shapes shifting security chief odo.
the only thing I remember of the movie is when they exposed Houlihan, during her shower. the Frenchman in this movie reminds me of Auberjonois's character, from Benson
BTW, Mel Gibson was born in Peekskill New York. He moved with his parents to Australia when he was 12 years old. Furthermore, he's not even an Australian citizen (he's a "permanent resident). He's an American citizen and also an Irish citizen.
Classic for how classically bad it is to anyone who read a history book. "wait why are the Spaniards showing up to fight the Mayans, I thought they tore apart the Aztecs....did Mel Gibson even research this?
Music played a vital role in wars all the way up to the end of the 19th century. The purpose of music was to issue commands to the troops. Once the radio was invented the musicians were no longer necessary.😊
At one time, my family lived on a farm in Southeast Ohio that had a summer kitchen. As stated, it was used during the hot summer months to prevent further heating the house. We also used the summer kitchen for canning. We had a large family of 13, so we grew large gardens and did a LOT of canning. We even canned squirrel meat.
William Tavington, the main villain of The Patriot, is loosely based on Banastre Tarleton, a British soldier and politician who was nicknamed "the Butcher" for his actions at the Battle of Waxhaws.
Jason Isaacs is one of those guys who is just an all time villain in anything he plays. What a great actor. Probably the biggest sweetheart in real life as well lol
The national anthem, such as it was, in those days, was "Hail Columbia". The logo of the production company of a woman holding a torch is actually a representation of Columbia, the personification of the USA, basically an early version of Uncle Sam, who did not exist in the American War for Independence. The production company of the film was Columbia Pictures, hence the logo. But an opening image of Columbia is far more historically appropriate to the story depicted than "The Star Spangled Banner" or an image of Uncle Sam.
They line up like they did to fight because the smooth bore muskets they had were only accurate out to maybe 50 yards for something the size of an ice chest, the bullet comes out like a knuckle ball and can curve un predictably, so you had to use the mass vollume fire. It was also considered hororable and gentmenly way to fight.
I think it's cool that when they lose what's dearest to them, the righteous and proper citizen volunteers of the town are the ones that break rank and do something out of line, not the brigand mercenary types from the tavern. Shows that we can all become vengeful killers with enough of a push, no matter how above it we think we are, in my opinion.
French and Poles helped... Casmir Pulasky saved George Washington in battle and was father of American cavelery. Orgnisation and tactic. and Tadeusz Kościuszko who designed fortifications of West Point.
My parents showed me this when I was 8 to give me an understanding of what our ancestors went through for our country. It’s something every American should watch.
Murica! Fun fact, almost 80 years later we had a civil war, and almos 80 years after that we had World War Two, and now we are 80 years after that war… history does has a habit of repeating itself, or at least rhyme. There’s a lot of things in between those conflicts but I find that curious, happy Independence Day!
And to be fair they tried to enter earlier but the first force they sent was hit by a hurricane and got seriously F'ed up. We also owe a lot to a Prussian officer who trained most of Washington's men. LoL as well as a good bit to poor mental health, cause folks like John Paul Jones were legit insane.
And the Irony is that thanks to this war, France went bankrupt which led to their own Revolution and destroying of their country, and Britain going on to expand there empire and got richer.
A great reaction to a good movie! Keep up the great work. From a proud Son of the Revolution! ( family can trace back to an officer in the continental army! )
You've got a great wife, both of your reactions are great. Definitely appreciate your love for America. I'm in the federal military service training to become a federal agent for the US Border Patrol and I love my country. America first always
Music was there to send signals. The US used mainly bugle calls, but lots instruments have been used. You're probably familiar with "taps" and "reveille". This was the original use of drummers in combat. Remember that once the first volley was fired, you were completely blind on the battlefield unless there was a stiff wind.
People rarely realize that the general population was very divided about breaking ties with England and everyone who actively supported or participated in revolt was as far as the crown was concerned guilty of treason, punishable by forfeiture of property and life. It was actually pretty divided by wealth with the upper half being for revolution and the lower half being against because it was the wealthier Americans that paid the most tax to the crown.
Independence also had more support in the north than the south, which explains why the southern US actually had pretty close ties with Brittan until the civil war. Even today the southern dialect is closer to British English than US English though the pronunciation is very different.
@@ChrisCrossClash there are such a thing as dialects. England uses what's referred to as the Kings English. American English, Australian English, etc are different dialects with different spellings, pronunciation, slang, word usage, etc.
Mel bloody nailed this as did nearly every other actor, mate I loved Heath Ledger and Mel's chemistry throughout the film, it was smack on and it's always had me buggered why they never did another movie together
"Turn: Washington's Spies" or something close to that was a multi-season show on A&E or History Channel I think from a few years back that was fantastic. WELL worth a look. :)
Jason Isaacs and Tom Wilkinson were brilliant in this. The best type of movie villain, for me (!) is the type who gives rise to visceral hatred, a feeling that you want to eliminate them with your bare hands. The church burning still gives me lumps in my throat to this day.
@17:25 “That’s not the way to get ahead in life. Now’s not the time to lose one’s head. He’ll never be the head of a major corporation.” - Austin Powers 😁
Scalping was actually introduced to Native Americans during the French & Indian War. Bounties were paid for enemy soldiers killed, and scalps were "collected" as "proof" of the kills. And, yes. The system was quite open to "cheating".....
Not completely accurate. Before Europeans came to North America, some tribes already had the custom of scalping (some) of the enemy tribe members they killed. When war broke out in North America between England and France, both European powers very much encouraged and paid for scalping by their respective Indian allies.
A 1959 film based on the 1897 very dry satirical play on the Revolutionary War by George Bernard Shaw is "The Devil's Disciple" starring Burt Lancaster and Kirk Douglas.
I never thought about it, but realistically, he probably went back to France and either became one of Napoleon's generals or got his head cut off in the revolution. Btw, I almost spit out my food when you said the horse's teeth were messed up.
Mel Gibson is fantastic in The Patriot as always. But i dont know what to say if you cant cry when Susan finally breaks down, yelling "Papa, dont go!" That scene makes me melt every time.
"It'll just take another 100 years." There is another movie that would work for Fourth of July week. Gettysburg. The bloodiest and perhaps most important battle of the American Civil War. It took place on July 1st, 2nd and 3rd of 1863. It is a very underrated movie in my opinion and one of the more historically accurate movies that has been made.
There is the 1984 tv mini-series "George Washington" staring Barry Bostwick. It covers from when he worked as a surveyor for Virginia through the French and Indian war until the end of the American War for Independence.
Gotta give it up to Williams once again. The top 3 "American sounding" patriotic scores has to go to The Patriot, Air Force One(Jerry Goldsmith is the GOAT!) and of course Independence Day. great watch as always - the reveal of just how big the British forces were at the final battle, the score, and the very good CG make for one epic shot! It really puts into perspective just how "against the odds" this really was - for what its worth the Hollywood version anyway lol. Wanna hear the score from my own neck of the woods? Happy 4th of July! ua-cam.com/video/ygjFIm_TzXQ/v-deo.html
Have you ever wondered what happened to the 56 men who signed the Declaration of Independence? What fates befell them for daring to put their names to that document? Five signers were captured by the British as traitors and tortured before they died. Twelve had their homes ransacked and burned. Two lost their sons serving in the Revolutionary Army, another had two sons captured. Nine of the 56 fought and died from wounds or hardships of the Revolutionary War. They signed and they pledged their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor. What kind of men were they? Twenty-four were lawyers and jurists. Eleven were merchants, nine were farmers and large plantation owners; men of means, well educated. But they signed the Declaration of Independence knowing full well that the penalty would be death if they were captured. Carter Braxton of Virginia, a wealthy planter and trader, saw his ships swept from the seas by the British Navy. He sold his home and properties to pay his debts, and died in rags. Thomas McKeam was so hounded by the British that he was forced to move his family almost constantly. He served in the Congress without pay, and his family was kept in hiding. His possessions were taken from him, and poverty was his reward. Vandals or soldiers looted the properties of Dillery, Hall, Clymer, Walton, Gwinnett, Heyward, Ruttledge, and Middleton. At the battle of Yorktown, Thomas Nelson, Jr., noted that the British General Cornwallis had taken over the Nelson home for his headquarters. He quietly urged General George Washington to open fire. The home was destroyed, and Nelson died bankrupt. Francis Lewis had his home and properties destroyed. The enemy jailed his wife, and she died within a few months. John Hart was driven from his wife's bedside as she was dying. Their 13 children fled for their lives. His fields and his gristmill were laid to waste. For more than a year, he lived in forests and caves, returning home to find his wife dead and his children vanished. A few weeks later, he died from exhaustion and a broken heart. Norris and Livingston suffered similar fates. Such were the stories and sacrifices of the American Revolution. These were not wild-eyed, rabble-rousing ruffians. They were soft-spoken men of means and education. They had security, but they valued liberty more.
@@owaindavies916 Slavery has existed for thousands of years through every culture and race of people to ever exist, but I'm sure you probably think it was invented exclusively by white people.
@@owaindavies916 As if what you're talking about hasn't existed for thousands of years through every culture in history and was invented solely by Americans. Try reading a book once in a while.
@@euphoriatoast I’m so confused, nothing I said relates to what you said. Maybe you need better reading comprehension, maybe a book or two? Hahahaha. Of course these things have been happening for centuries. History didn’t begin in 1776 y’know? My point is, it wasn’t some grand gesture of liberty, it just mainly benefited a certain group of people. I.e rich, white men who were part of the upper classes in the thirteen colonies. Just because things operated one way, why couldn’t the enlightened founding fathers operate differently? They could have given liberty to all, but they didn’t.
I have an ancestor on my mothers side of my family that actually signed the Declaration of Independence. On my fathers side, I have Cherokee and Blackfoot Native American, but my deepest traceable roots besides Adam and Eve actually go back to Sir William Wallace the Scottish national hero. He is my 24th generation great grand uncle.
the cannon balls were aimed to hit the ground in front of the enemy. this would allow the ball to bounce thru the formation. GR stood for "grenadier". this movie is based on the battles of the "swamp fox" in the Carolinas.
For more lighthearted fare, "1776" portrays the creation of the Declaration of Independence by the Continental Congress in Philadelphia. It is a musical, but surprisingly informative and entertaining.
Great Independence Day Reaction...... This type of warfare is where the term/phrase "Follow the Standard" comes from...... Standard is another term for the Flag.... When the flag moves forward you move the line forward to keep up with the Standard......
I think the "GR" stands for "Georgus Rex" or something similar. They probably recently had to change a lot of old fashioned ceremonial uniforms from ER to CR.
Fun Fact: Mrs. Howard, Anne's mother, was played by Mary Jo Deschanel. She played Annie Glenn in "The Right Stuff," is married to famed cinematographer Caleb Deschanel. The couple are the parents of Zooey Deschanel.
The horsemen are Dragoons, a heavy cavalry regiment of the British Army. They were roughly the equivalent of mechanized artillery in the 18th century. All British banners are marked with R meaning Regent (the ruler) and the initial of the King or Queen of the time; thus GR stands for George Regent to denote King George III, ruler of England, Scotland, Ireland, and Wales and the overall British Empire (1760-1820). Banners and government facilities created during the Reign of Elizabeth II were marked ER.
This movie's fine. History snobs might hate it, but then it was never meant to be a documentary anyway. Had it been advertised as one, THEN those grievances would be legitimate.
The problem isn't that this movie is historically inaccurate. The problem is too many people take period movies like this for facts. Never bother to check what's fiction or added for drama. Then we get false rumors spreading, like Knights couldn't move alone in armor, or Gladiators always fought to the death.
Music also played a big role on morale, fighting spirit, as well as actually being used to relay orders. There would be different drum rhythms or bugle calls or flute calls that would signify certain orders to certain parts of the army.
Happy Independence Day. Great reaction. I remember how shocked I was the first time I saw it with both the sons being killed and how evil Tavington was.
Not the most fun of facts but the reason they had so many kids was because the infant mortality rate was quite high back then. They had 8, 9 children or more to ensure that some of them would survive and those kids would then work for the family.
A common misunderstanding is the music during battles. Different songs meant different orders. It was a way to give orders, since was hard to hear, and smoke obscured vision for hand signals or using flags. Each song was a different tactical order and was the most efficient way to communicate to thousands at once
The kicker is Benjamin Martin was actually following the Rules of War, wounded soldiers receive care and are taken to a POW camp to be able to be exchanged later. Thomas would have been there for the last 5 years not year. our Revolutionary War lasted from April 19, 1775 until September 3, 1783. If Thomas had joined in 1778 he would have been there for 5 years, 3 if he joined in 1780.
Mel Gibson's character is very loosely based on a man very well known here in South Carolina. His name was Francis Marion. The "Swamp Fox". His guerrilla tactics tied up and harassed the British Army for a couple of years here in SC. The Colonel Tavington in the movie is loosely based on Colonel Banastre Tarleton, a Dragoon, under the command of Lord Cornwallis. Tarlton is well know as being very ruthless and cold blooded. The final battle scene in the movie is based on an actual battle. The Battle of Cowpens, near the small town of Chesnee, South Carolina, which was a victory for the Americans, and the turning point in the Revolutionary War. Francis Marion was not at this battle, but Tarlton was. Also, Field Marshal Erwin Rommel of the 2nd World War, studied the tactics of Francis Marion the "Swamp Fox" and applied some of them in WW II and hence was to be known as the "Desert Fox". Playing off of Marion's "Swamp Fox" name.
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His character was an amalgamation of Francis Marion, Daniel Morgan, and Nathanael Greene. They used the Battle of Cowpens as an example for the battle when Tavington was killed. The Battle of Cowpens was famous due to Morgan executing a Double Envelopment.
Sorry, Tarleton (the actual commander) survived Cowpens although his soldiers were soundly defeated and almost destroyed. Tarleton lived and commanded for the British in several more wars.
From the Marion, SC area it's why the mascot is the "Swamp Fox". We also have Francis Marion University right down the road.
But Mel learned how to act in Australia and by his first film his Aussie accent was almost as broad as Steve Irwin the Crocodile Hunter. It was Mad Max that truly gave him a Hollywood career.
When susan yells papa as he is riding away always breaks me.
That kid did an amazing job.
@@sumelar she dead in real life
Niagara Falls every time.
@@honda2246 Its true, another fallen victim to the opioid crisis, may she RIP.
If someone watches that scene and not cry, they're made of stone.
Interesting fact, most of the extras in this were made up of Historical Reenactors, who brought their own muskets, uniforms, tents, etc. Mel Gibson was freaked out that the Reenactors, at the end of the day's shooting, instead of going off to a motel or something, they retired to their camps, started their fires, and began cooking dinner. The Reenactors camped and lived on the battlefield locations as if it actually was 1776. I am personal friends (and a fellow Reenactor) with a number of them.
"A shepherd must tend his flock. And at times, fight off the wolves." is one of my favorite lines from this movie.
WHOA!!!! Party foul!! Mel Gibson was born and raised in New York until the age of 9 or10 when his dad got a job overseas in Australia, he's still an American playing an American in the movie, so continuity is still intact. Anyway, loved the review, love you guys, take care and stay safe ❤️
Oh, I just posted right now. I thought he was only two or three when they moved to Australia, which absolutely right he was born in New York.
I love Jason Isaacs as Colonel Tavington. I don’t know if you noticed but he also played Lucious Molfoy in the Harry Potter movies. Plays such an awesome bad guy that you truly hate.
he also starred in FURY
I felt he did a great job as Gabriel Lorca, on "Star Trek: Discovery"
Jason Isaacs is fantastic as a villain, but I loved his quiet snark in Armageddon. Not a huge role, but one of my favorites.
He also voiced Commander Zhao in ‘Avatar: The Last Airbender’. He never seemed as villainous in that role, at least to me, as in some of his other roles. Probably because he dropped his English accent for it, lol
He's played a lot of good villains in films over the years.
8:00 Had to fight that way. Muskets were so inaccurate at range that being spread out would've made them ineffective, especially if both sides were taking cover. Marching abreast and firing a unified wall of lead ensured damage to the enemy. The gentlemanly way to battle for the period was to have close packed opposing units meet on open ground, exhange a volley or two, and then charge after whittling each other down. Infantry being close together also protected them from cavalry charges because they could form up into a square with bayonets out and inner rows firing to keep the horses from charging straight through.
11:30 Tavington is a dragoon, mounted infantry with a short rifle or musket that could also act as cavalry.
Cornwallis detests Tavington for his frequent charging into retreating soldiers after unit cohesion is already broken. Among other things, it just shows he's no gentleman.
The rocking chairs were built by a Master Craftsman near me. He built them the way he always did, to last, not as props.
During filming, the prop department couldn't get them to break because of how well they were made. They had to keep cutting them until they finally broke.
That cute little girl you kept commenting on was Skye McCole Bartusiak who died at the age of 21 in 2014. With her death 6 years after Heath Ledger's, that made 2 of the performer's who played Martin's kids dead. Mel Gibson is not strictly Australian. He was born and raised in Peekskill, New York. The family moved to Australia when Mel was 10 because his father had health problems. So Gibson is actually an American.
When he was 12. Didn't know why they moved. Thanks
The move was to keep his sons out of the Vietnam War. I'm glad to see others know he's American. I see everyone say he's Australian. Doing Mad Max and having an accent for a while probably aided this perception.
“I love Freedom.”
“Amen to that.”
Amen to that, indeed. Love those shirts ya’ll are wearing as well. Love this film and put it on every year. Even tho it’s not entirely historically accurate, damn does it encapsulate the passion for Independence!
Mrs. Movies needed a gallon of water for that Susan scene when she cried out, "Papa!" 😢
“Papa don’t go”
EVERY GOT DAMN TIME IT GETS ME!
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The American Revolution was officially from 1775-1783.
Actually, Benjamin "The Ghost" Martin in the film is based on the real-life Brigadier General Francis Marion, known in those days as "The Swamp Fox. "Butcher" Tavington in this film is based on the real-life Colonel Banastre "Butcher" Tarleton, who commanded a regiment of dragoons--mostly colonials who remained loyal to King George III. On May 29, 1780 Tarleton won the lop-sided Battle of The Waxhaws in northern South Carolina. Tarleton lost control of his men, who believed Tarleton had been killed, and they then murdered many of the surrendered Continentals. The British lost 5 killed; the colonials lost 113 killed. (The disparity in those numbers reflects the killing of prisoners.) As a result, Tarleton earned the name of "Butcher" among the colonists. Surrendering was referred to as "quarter." Many Continentals subsequently shot surrendering British soldiers and called such an act "Tarleton's Quarter" in revenge. Tarleton was eventually promoted to general officer and later WAS a member of Parliament. So, whatever shame may have accrued from his men killing surrendered soldiers certainly did not hold him back from advancement. (The Waxhaws is what Gabriel briefly alluded to when he told his father at their home that the British dragoons charged into the Virginia regulars). It was indeed a bloody, terrible war. (I graduated college in South Carolina with a major in history and had the great opportunity to visit the battlefields and key locations of both the Revolutionary War and the Civil War. Regards the Revolution, SC was surprisingly the scene of more engagements than any other colony. As the war dragged-on, and as the populace became more and more polarized over actual and rumored war crimes, the fighting became neighbor-against-neighbor and for all practical purposes, people could no longer play both sides. it was a civil war within the state.)
I absolutely adore this movie.
It is a continuation of Gibson answering "yes"when asked:"so how evil do you want your British to be, mr Gibson."
It's a cool period piece telling the story of the Revolution, but it's piss poor history. If the British had ever torched a church full of people we would still be at war today. The truth is the British fought the war pretty honorably with the most remembered atrocity being dubbed "the Boston Massacre" but it was nothing of the sort. The soldiers were successfully defended by none other than future president John Adams who showed that they were truly acting in self defense from a mob that was throwing rocks and about to overrun them.
Its a GREAT yeehaw american movie about our foundation. BUT its not as accurate as people think it was.
Also.... i'm assuming Mel Gibson he said the same thing when filming "passion of the Christ" " How evil do you want the jews to be Mr. Gibson?"
We can all watch the police dash cam footage of Mel Gibson on youtube to understand how he feels about jewish people :/
haha
he's a good actor/director... but a pretty shit human being.
@@vertigo4567 - At the time they were pretty much running Hollywood, and treating him like crap. When pulled over, he was drunk and saying nasty things. Lets not assume the things he said while smashed... are the things he really believes.
Mel Gibson did an awesome job playing the heroic father of a hero. And Heath Ledger is also really good.
Jason Isaacs though, he did so well in his part you really hated his character, and if a actor can do that, he is doing a excellent job!
@@NecramoniumVideoYes! Great performance by Isaacs making hate him so much. Second to Phoenix in Gladiator
@@NecramoniumVideo Isaacs as Gregory Zhukov in The Death of Stalin is one of the greatest comedic supporting roles I've ever seen. The man can do anything!
I forgot that Mel Gibson used to be a respected actor before his drunken anti-Semitic rampages a few years ago...
No he didn't, this whole movie is over reacting. Your stoopid with the idiotic historical accomplishments
Happy Independence Day my fellow Americans!!! 🇺🇸
Hell yea!!! back at you my fellow true American vote Trump! to save america so we can still have a country in the next 5 years.
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The drums and music performed 2 tasks . One was to keep cadence as they moved forward. The drums also served to communicate tactics over the large fields because shouting wouldn't work and it would also give them away. The way they fought was all about marksmanship. The better shots took the field and the battle.
It was more about the lack of rifling. The balls would bounce in the muzzle despite the paper sabot before ejecting causing them to be inaccurate at range. Using Line formations was a way to be sure a wall of lead would have the most coverage and get the most shots possible on target.
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Cornwallis was undefeated in battle until Yorktown. And after the Revolutionary War he was assigned to India where he went on to an undefeated record in battle. The only “blemish” on his record was losing to “rustics and farmers with pitchforks”. He was a brilliant strategist and tactician. He could also be very cold. In a battle in North Carolina that was going badly for his army, he made a desperate decision to have his artillery fire into the center of the melee killing many of his own soldiers but succeeded in breaking up the melee and drove the Continental army back. He was brilliant and he knew it. Yorktown really wasn’t his fault either. General Clinton was supposed to send him reinforcements from New York but failed to do so because he was certain Washington was moving to attack New York. Which was a huge strategic deception by Washington which allowed him and the French to encircle Cornwallis in Yorktown and utterly defeat him. So embarrassed by this defeat was Cornwallis that he sent out his subordinate colonel to present the sword of surrender to Washington, instead of doing what honor prescribed in the commanding officer to present the surrender. Famous. I’m glad they included that in the movie.
It’s also interesting that they gave Mel Gibson’s character the line about firing two shots before retreating at Cow Pen, which is what that fictional battle was loosely based on. That line was actually said almost verbatim by Daniel Webster at Cow Pen where his militia and Continental regulars utterly defeated Col Tarlton. Same strategy was used in that battle.
Also, you asked why they played music during combat. It served an important purpose. To provide a rhythm for all formations to work off of, and to serve as a moral booster. Also some commands could be disseminated via the drums and later trumpets. Unit flags were also important. And finally, people often ridicule the seemingly absurd tactic of lining up opposite to one another and shooting. Remember that muskets were absurdly inaccurate at the time. So the most common way of taking advantage of large army numbers was to gather or group into in-depth firing lines. Coordinated volleys of fire ensured that a clustered wall of hot lead was sent toward the enemy guaranteeing that several opposing soldiers would be struck. However, Gen. Lafayette (Continental commander) began incorporating gorilla tactics to great success, that required very fast movements and the use of cover and camouflage. Guerrilla tactics were used some prior to Lafayette, but he began using it and refining techniques with the Continental regulars. But that could only work with a more disciplined army which slowly developed over the course of the war, especially at Valley Forge when they were galvanized into a much more disciplined and professional army. Many lessons were learned early through defeat, that allowed the continentals to eventually have greater success against a superior British army.
Funny story: I was the youngest and only boy w/ 3 older sisters. I was getting past the age where most kids start talking, so my parents took me to a doctor. After finding out I had 3 older sisters, the doctor was like "No wonder he hasn't spoken, he probably can't get a word in!" LOL
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"What about Jean"? Don't worry about our Frenchie friend Jean. Right after American Independence, France is gonna be real busy with a small thingy called the French Revolution and another little thingy called Napoleon Bonaparte.
Support for the War cost the French almost everything.A lot of their colonies fell to the British and the King lost his head.
it baffles me that in just 20 years after the American Revolution, European armies with 100's of thousands of men are gonna clash while in America, it was only 10's of thousands of men clashing.
The Irony is by helping America, France itself went bankrupt and feel into it's own revolution, and Britain turned out just fine and actually went on to enlarge their empire.
If you needed a prime example of Mel Gibson's acting range, this is most definitely it.
Hamlet. He did a great Hamlet
Not as good as Krusty's range; just look at it.
@@Cheryworld oh Jesus, I completely forgot about that adaptation!
Dont forget how Mel Gibson acted when pulled over by a police officer a few years ago... :/
YIKES!!!
haha
Braveheart too. My favorite scene is when he removes the helmet to find Robert the Bruce fighting with the English. They have a conversation with nothing but their eyes. Some of the best acting I've ever seen.
For those who don't know, some of the founding fathers were as young as teenagers, fighting a war for independence. Others were in their 20s. Franklin was the oldest, being in his 70s.
11 of the Founding father's ages at signing of Declaration of Independance...None in their teens, 2 in their twenties, 2 pushing 40, and 6 were over 40
John Adams-41
Thomas Jefferson-33
Ben Franklin-70
Alexander Hamilton-21
George Washington-44
James Madison-25
Sam Adams-54
Roger Sherman-55
John Hancock-39
Charles Carroll-53
You were about as incorrect, as you were correct...
Best Independence Day film without aliens in it!
This one and 'Glory!'
"One very fat colonel who called me a "cheeky fellow"."
That was a nice touch. Since they were scarecrows!
The Patriot was a big hit here in the Philippines way back in 2000. I saw it inside the local cinema on a Friday night and all the seats were filled up! As the movie played, there were varied reactions from the audience ranging from gasps to cheers.
Welcome back to you, me, and the 4th of July.
RIP Tom Wilkinson, Heath Ledger, René Auberjonois
Mel Gibson grew up in Australia but he was born in the U.S. His family moved to Australia when he was 11 or 12 years old so he is actually an American. Happy 4th of July!
50:32 "It was a British horse. It´s okay. His teeth were all messed up!"
My new favourite reaction comment to one of my all time favourite movies. 😎🤣💯
Enjoyed watching this.
Happy 4th of July ! 🇺🇲🎉
The priest in this movie is played by the late Rene aberjonois, he is known for playing the priest in m.a.s.h the movie, also his seven year stint on the show star trek deep space nine, as the shapes shifting security chief odo.
And if you play video games, the voice of the great Mr. House from Fallout New Vegas
He was also a supporting actor in Benson.
the only thing I remember of the movie is when they exposed Houlihan, during her shower.
the Frenchman in this movie reminds me of Auberjonois's character, from Benson
He’s also the insane Chef in The Little Mermaid
He played a psychiatrist/professor in a few episodes of Frasier too
BTW, Mel Gibson was born in Peekskill New York. He moved with his parents to Australia when he was 12 years old. Furthermore, he's not even an Australian citizen (he's a "permanent resident). He's an American citizen and also an Irish citizen.
Junior Mints?!?!? Well, I hope you brought enough for everybody!
God bless America 🇺🇸
Land that I love.🇺🇸
Remember why your free🇺🇸
One of Mel's classics. Check out another one of his classics, Apocalypto
Also "We Were Soldiers"
Classic for how classically bad it is to anyone who read a history book.
"wait why are the Spaniards showing up to fight the Mayans, I thought they tore apart the Aztecs....did Mel Gibson even research this?
Music played a vital role in wars all the way up to the end of the 19th century. The purpose of music was to issue commands to the troops. Once the radio was invented the musicians were no longer necessary.😊
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One of the best aspects is them thinking their dad was weak. And then in one moment realized how insane their father was. Great moment.
At one time, my family lived on a farm in Southeast Ohio that had a summer kitchen. As stated, it was used during the hot summer months to prevent further heating the house. We also used the summer kitchen for canning. We had a large family of 13, so we grew large gardens and did a LOT of canning. We even canned squirrel meat.
51:32 The look of satisfaction on Mrs. Movie's face at seeing that slimly villainous guy getting what was coming to him is priceless! :)
I'm surprised you guys never did The Patriot, it seems right up your alley.
William Tavington, the main villain of The Patriot, is loosely based on Banastre Tarleton, a British soldier and politician who was nicknamed "the Butcher" for his actions at the Battle of Waxhaws.
Jason Isaacs is one of those guys who is just an all time villain in anything he plays. What a great actor. Probably the biggest sweetheart in real life as well lol
The music was also a way to sound off orders and tactics on the battlefield since they didn’t have radios
The national anthem, such as it was, in those days, was "Hail Columbia". The logo of the production company of a woman holding a torch is actually a representation of Columbia, the personification of the USA, basically an early version of Uncle Sam, who did not exist in the American War for Independence. The production company of the film was Columbia Pictures, hence the logo. But an opening image of Columbia is far more historically appropriate to the story depicted than "The Star Spangled Banner" or an image of Uncle Sam.
They line up like they did to fight because the smooth bore muskets they had were only accurate out to maybe 50 yards for something the size of an ice chest, the bullet comes out like a knuckle ball and can curve un predictably, so you had to use the mass vollume fire. It was also considered hororable and gentmenly way to fight.
I think it's cool that when they lose what's dearest to them, the righteous and proper citizen volunteers of the town are the ones that break rank and do something out of line, not the brigand mercenary types from the tavern. Shows that we can all become vengeful killers with enough of a push, no matter how above it we think we are, in my opinion.
This guy was the villain of villains
He is a Malfoy
He's definitely a role model for IDF.
"it was a British horse its ok, its teeth were all messed up" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
French and Poles helped... Casmir Pulasky saved George Washington in battle and was father of American cavelery. Orgnisation and tactic. and Tadeusz Kościuszko who designed fortifications of West Point.
My parents showed me this when I was 8 to give me an understanding of what our ancestors went through for our country. It’s something every American should watch.
Murica! Fun fact, almost 80 years later we had a civil war, and almos 80 years after that we had World War Two, and now we are 80 years after that war… history does has a habit of repeating itself, or at least rhyme. There’s a lot of things in between those conflicts but I find that curious, happy Independence Day!
And it gets really interesting when you look at the population density of male's
Joshua Jackson, Elijah Wood, Jake Gyllenhaal, Brad Renfro, Paul Walker, Ryan Phillippe, and Heath Ledger were considered to play Gabriel Martin.
I do appreciate the credit given to the French for victory in the war. Too often forgotten.
And to be fair they tried to enter earlier but the first force they sent was hit by a hurricane and got seriously F'ed up. We also owe a lot to a Prussian officer who trained most of Washington's men. LoL as well as a good bit to poor mental health, cause folks like John Paul Jones were legit insane.
And the Irony is that thanks to this war, France went bankrupt which led to their own Revolution and destroying of their country, and Britain going on to expand there empire and got richer.
A great reaction to a good movie! Keep up the great work. From a proud Son of the Revolution!
( family can trace back to an officer in the continental army! )
Everybody have a happy Fourth of July!
You've got a great wife, both of your reactions are great. Definitely appreciate your love for America. I'm in the federal military service training to become a federal agent for the US Border Patrol and I love my country. America first always
You are appreciated sir
@khughes1997 I appreciate that very much sir. I intend to do my best to serve our country
Music was there to send signals. The US used mainly bugle calls, but lots instruments have been used. You're probably familiar with "taps" and "reveille". This was the original use of drummers in combat. Remember that once the first volley was fired, you were completely blind on the battlefield unless there was a stiff wind.
You two should definitely watch John Adams this summer! It's a great continuation for the season and celebration of freedom.
People rarely realize that the general population was very divided about breaking ties with England and everyone who actively supported or participated in revolt was as far as the crown was concerned guilty of treason, punishable by forfeiture of property and life. It was actually pretty divided by wealth with the upper half being for revolution and the lower half being against because it was the wealthier Americans that paid the most tax to the crown.
Independence also had more support in the north than the south, which explains why the southern US actually had pretty close ties with Brittan until the civil war. Even today the southern dialect is closer to British English than US English though the pronunciation is very different.
@@markcarpenter6020 I wish you would stop saying "British-English" there is no such thing, it's called just ENGLISH.
@@ChrisCrossClash there are such a thing as dialects. England uses what's referred to as the Kings English. American English, Australian English, etc are different dialects with different spellings, pronunciation, slang, word usage, etc.
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UK English spells colour with a u. American english doesn't have a u in color.
Mel bloody nailed this as did nearly every other actor, mate I loved Heath Ledger and Mel's chemistry throughout the film, it was smack on and it's always had me buggered why they never did another movie together
"Turn: Washington's Spies" or something close to that was a multi-season show on A&E or History Channel I think from a few years back that was fantastic. WELL worth a look. :)
Jason Isaacs and Tom Wilkinson were brilliant in this. The best type of movie villain, for me (!) is the type who gives rise to visceral hatred, a feeling that you want to eliminate them with your bare hands. The church burning still gives me lumps in my throat to this day.
A really fun documentary about the Revolution is Oversimplified the Revolution. They also have other Oversimplified programs about historical events.
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@@stillwaitingfor99 Are you trying to out do me in comments?😂
@17:25 “That’s not the way to get ahead in life. Now’s not the time to lose one’s head. He’ll never be the head of a major corporation.” - Austin Powers 😁
My dad took me to see this in theaters when it came out. He's a major history buff, and this movie really instilled my love of war history.
Scalping was actually introduced to Native Americans during the French & Indian War.
Bounties were paid for enemy soldiers killed, and scalps were "collected" as "proof" of the kills.
And, yes. The system was quite open to "cheating".....
Not completely accurate. Before Europeans came to North America, some tribes already had the custom of scalping (some) of the enemy tribe members they killed. When war broke out in North America between England and France, both European powers very much encouraged and paid for scalping by their respective Indian allies.
A 1959 film based on the 1897 very dry satirical play on the Revolutionary War by George Bernard Shaw is "The Devil's Disciple" starring Burt Lancaster and Kirk Douglas.
I never thought about it, but realistically, he probably went back to France and either became one of Napoleon's generals or got his head cut off in the revolution. Btw, I almost spit out my food when you said the horse's teeth were messed up.
He might of stayed many French and Hessian soldiers stayed after the war.
Mel Gibson is fantastic in The Patriot as always.
But i dont know what to say if you cant cry when Susan finally breaks down, yelling "Papa, dont go!" That scene makes me melt every time.
The sound design in this movie is so good.
"It'll just take another 100 years."
There is another movie that would work for Fourth of July week. Gettysburg. The bloodiest and perhaps most important battle of the American Civil War. It took place on July 1st, 2nd and 3rd of 1863. It is a very underrated movie in my opinion and one of the more historically accurate movies that has been made.
As much as i’d like them to watch Gettysburg that movie is over 4 hours long so for them to do a reaction to it would be very difficult
The music is for giving commands and raising morale, depending on what is being played it tells the soldiers what to do.
There is the 1984 tv mini-series "George Washington" staring Barry Bostwick. It covers from when he worked as a surveyor for Virginia through the French and Indian war until the end of the American War for Independence.
Happy 4th to you mr and mrs movies also to all who are here!
Love your thanks for those that have paid the ultimate price for our freedom. I celebrate with my family. Great reaction.
Happy 4th of July 🎉 sending love from the U.K. 🇬🇧🇺🇸 💪🏻
Gotta give it up to Williams once again. The top 3 "American sounding" patriotic scores has to go to The Patriot, Air Force One(Jerry Goldsmith is the GOAT!) and of course Independence Day. great watch as always - the reveal of just how big the British forces were at the final battle, the score, and the very good CG make for one epic shot! It really puts into perspective just how "against the odds" this really was - for what its worth the Hollywood version anyway lol. Wanna hear the score from my own neck of the woods? Happy 4th of July! ua-cam.com/video/ygjFIm_TzXQ/v-deo.html
Right off the bat, I love how he put up a backwards C when he did the YMCA 😂
Have you ever wondered what happened to the 56 men who signed the Declaration of Independence? What fates befell them for daring to put their names to that document?
Five signers were captured by the British as traitors and tortured before they died.
Twelve had their homes ransacked and burned.
Two lost their sons serving in the Revolutionary Army, another had two sons captured.
Nine of the 56 fought and died from wounds or hardships of the Revolutionary War.
They signed and they pledged their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor.
What kind of men were they?
Twenty-four were lawyers and jurists. Eleven were merchants, nine were farmers and large plantation owners; men of means, well educated. But they signed the Declaration of Independence knowing full well that the penalty would be death if they were captured.
Carter Braxton of Virginia, a wealthy planter and trader, saw his ships swept from the seas by the British Navy. He sold his home and properties to pay his debts, and died in rags.
Thomas McKeam was so hounded by the British that he was forced to move his family almost constantly. He served in the Congress without pay, and his family was kept in hiding. His possessions were taken from him, and poverty was his reward.
Vandals or soldiers looted the properties of Dillery, Hall, Clymer, Walton, Gwinnett, Heyward, Ruttledge, and Middleton.
At the battle of Yorktown, Thomas Nelson, Jr., noted that the British General Cornwallis had taken over the Nelson home for his headquarters. He quietly urged General George Washington to open fire. The home was destroyed, and Nelson died bankrupt.
Francis Lewis had his home and properties destroyed. The enemy jailed his wife, and she died within a few months.
John Hart was driven from his wife's bedside as she was dying. Their 13 children fled for their lives. His fields and his gristmill were laid to waste. For more than a year, he lived in forests and caves, returning home to find his wife dead and his children vanished. A few weeks later, he died from exhaustion and a broken heart.
Norris and Livingston suffered similar fates.
Such were the stories and sacrifices of the American Revolution. These were not wild-eyed, rabble-rousing ruffians. They were soft-spoken men of means and education. They had security, but they valued liberty more.
' but they valued liberty more.'
Well of certain people anyway. Certainly not liberty for all that resided in America at the time.
@@owaindavies916 Slavery has existed for thousands of years through every culture and race of people to ever exist, but I'm sure you probably think it was invented exclusively by white people.
@@owaindavies916 As if what you're talking about hasn't existed for thousands of years through every culture in history and was invented solely by Americans. Try reading a book once in a while.
@@euphoriatoast I’m so confused, nothing I said relates to what you said. Maybe you need better reading comprehension, maybe a book or two? Hahahaha. Of course these things have been happening for centuries. History didn’t begin in 1776 y’know? My point is, it wasn’t some grand gesture of liberty, it just mainly benefited a certain group of people. I.e rich, white men who were part of the upper classes in the thirteen colonies.
Just because things operated one way, why couldn’t the enlightened founding fathers operate differently? They could have given liberty to all, but they didn’t.
I have an ancestor on my mothers side of my family that actually signed the Declaration of Independence. On my fathers side, I have Cherokee and Blackfoot Native American, but my deepest traceable roots besides Adam and Eve actually go back to Sir William Wallace the Scottish national hero. He is my 24th generation great grand uncle.
"He's a British horse. His teeth are all messed up." 😂
the cannon balls were aimed to hit the ground in front of the enemy. this would allow the ball to bounce thru the formation. GR stood for "grenadier". this movie is based on the battles of the "swamp fox" in the Carolinas.
For more lighthearted fare, "1776" portrays the creation of the Declaration of Independence by the Continental Congress in Philadelphia. It is a musical, but surprisingly informative and entertaining.
Great Independence Day Reaction......
This type of warfare is where the term/phrase "Follow the Standard" comes from...... Standard is another term for the Flag.... When the flag moves forward you move the line forward to keep up with the Standard......
That type of warfare was based on the idea of, “Accuracy by volume of fire.” They were using smooth bore muskets which, were not very accurate.
I think the "GR" stands for "Georgus Rex" or something similar. They probably recently had to change a lot of old fashioned ceremonial uniforms from ER to CR.
Fun Fact: Mrs. Howard, Anne's mother, was played by Mary Jo Deschanel. She played Annie Glenn in "The Right Stuff," is married to famed cinematographer Caleb Deschanel. The couple are the parents of Zooey Deschanel.
Back in the late 50s or early 60s, Disney put out a film or miniseries about the Swamp Fox Francis Marion that starred Leslie Nielsen.
The horsemen are Dragoons, a heavy cavalry regiment of the British Army. They were roughly the equivalent of mechanized artillery in the 18th century.
All British banners are marked with R meaning Regent (the ruler) and the initial of the King or Queen of the time; thus GR stands for George Regent to denote King George III, ruler of England, Scotland, Ireland, and Wales and the overall British Empire (1760-1820). Banners and government facilities created during the Reign of Elizabeth II were marked ER.
This movie's fine. History snobs might hate it, but then it was never meant to be a documentary anyway. Had it been advertised as one, THEN those grievances would be legitimate.
I consider myself a history snob and I love this movie but I also know it's just a movie.
Its a good movie.
But its nothing more than propaganda.
The problem isn't that this movie is historically inaccurate. The problem is too many people take period movies like this for facts. Never bother to check what's fiction or added for drama.
Then we get false rumors spreading, like Knights couldn't move alone in armor, or Gladiators always fought to the death.
Music also played a big role on morale, fighting spirit, as well as actually being used to relay orders. There would be different drum rhythms or bugle calls or flute calls that would signify certain orders to certain parts of the army.
The 80s mini series The North and South staring Patrick Swayze is Extremely good if you have never seen it.
The Missus wasn't ready for cannonballs and decapitations!
Happy Independence Day. Great reaction. I remember how shocked I was the first time I saw it with both the sons being killed and how evil Tavington was.
Not the most fun of facts but the reason they had so many kids was because the infant mortality rate was quite high back then. They had 8, 9 children or more to ensure that some of them would survive and those kids would then work for the family.
A common misunderstanding is the music during battles. Different songs meant different orders. It was a way to give orders, since was hard to hear, and smoke obscured vision for hand signals or using flags. Each song was a different tactical order and was the most efficient way to communicate to thousands at once
"I'll never understand the music"
What Mrs. Movie, never listen to the radio when your going someplace?
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Mel Gibson was born in Peekskill. NY , USA. Great Reaction.
The 80s mini series North and South is a good watch. Lots of recognizable celebrities were in it
The kicker is Benjamin Martin was actually following the Rules of War, wounded soldiers receive care and are taken to a POW camp to be able to be exchanged later.
Thomas would have been there for the last 5 years not year. our Revolutionary War lasted from April 19, 1775 until September 3, 1783. If Thomas had joined in 1778 he would have been there for 5 years, 3 if he joined in 1780.
Happy fourth! Merica!