JBL One Series 104 vs Presonus Eris E3.5 || Sound & Frequency Response Comparison
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- Опубліковано 2 лип 2019
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All the tracks used in this video can be found here:
• Test Tracks
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-Sound recorded using Zoom H6 recorder
-Frequency measurements done in semi treated room using UMIK-1 microphone
-Levels matched using SPL meter
-All tone controls set to neutral - Наука та технологія
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which do you prefer JBL or Presonus?
@@TgifchurchCoUk video is 9:50 lol
@@sandeepkark ikr
Those JBL’s have really impressed me!! Upped their game on small spellers big time! They give me a nice NS10 vibe I’m digging with that close to accurate mid range. Definitely gonna try these with a sub!!
Picked up Eris 3.5 and already got JBL 104 both very different animals JBL has that midrange kind of boxy thing going on that is great for listening to rock music Eris are much more even across the board and are great for more dynamic music where you can pick out every instrument. Both have plenty of bass although the Eris seems to pick out the low frequency stuff better (you will need acoustic isolators for the Eris especially at higher volumes they do vibrate my desk). Eris go very loud I only have them on half way whereas the JBL need full volume when using the balanced inputs, you can get more volume if you use the RCA inputs. The JBL do hiss a bit whereas the Eris do not. Eris are not at all lacking in bass as some people say the JBL has less low bass but is very punchy when listening to kick drum etc. The Eris have a wider sound stage, the JBL sounds as if the sound is coming from exactly where the two speakers are placed the Eris sounds like the sound is coming from a meter either side of the speakers.
Build quality the JBL is better they are heavy and solid feeling the Eris are light to pick up and don't feel as solid.
Sound wise I would buy the Eris over the JBL for definite but I only paid £79 for the JBL so cant complain.
I have the Eris EQ set neutral.
I'm keeping them both as they do suit different types of music and I use Bias FX which sounds good with the JBL, haven't tried recording with them yet but the Eris sounds Flatter to my ears but I'm no expert.
Hope this Helps someone I think I've covered everything good luck.
Omg thank you, im thinking of returning my JBLS and getting the Eris in stead. I miss the low end... but the highs and mids are so clear wow
god bless you
Thank you champ
Thanks, Paul. Appreciate it! I'm getting the Eris tomorrow.
Thanks a ton. This helped a lot.
Excellent review! Thank you.
Thank you for this!
Thanks for making this 👌👌
Thanks I have been waiting for this one.
It would be interesting to listen the JBL's next to Edifier's E25HD as well.
The LUNA's got very good reviews from this channel and generally, and they are two more or less competitive products.
Which one would you suggest soundwise for music listening?
For music listening go for E25HD
104s and iLouds are slowly becoming the standards. Impressed with JBL
Lmao, sure... I guess this is why the PreSonus 3.5 are selling out everywhere as one of the best monitors for production/mixing? 😂
@@TranceHistorian presonus are just hyped up
@@TranceHistorian they sound like **** and need strong EQ - then again, Beats are flimsy and overpriced garbage and they sell like candy, too
@@TranceHistorian When people gets that sells ≠ quality. 3.5 are objectively bad.
I am wondering if I will get the correct conclusion listening to this on my $200 5-speaker (including woofer) Vizio Home Theater?
A vs between JBL 104 series 1 and JBL Control 1 would be very interesting.
Those "Original Track" speakers sound the best, where can I get a pair? Lol!
they are your speakers
@@clashott4372 ...that's the joke
@@clashott4372 bruh...
Which ones?
I listen to Hip Hop. I'll buy JBL. But the 3.5 is much detailed though.
I like 104 tonality.
Just bought the jbl cause I paid only 105$ Canadian for the pair, I hope I wont be disappointed hehe, will probably buy yamaha monitors next, so I can compare to different setups while mixing 😊
How are the jbls for you?
I've heard yamahas in sound comparison and from other reviewers if you are genuinely using for mixing music not actually great, especially when adam T series exists for same price. For the more expensive yamaha's you can get adam A3x or genelec 8010 for the price which are great tiny monitors. I have jbl and like them cause tiny and cheap but headphones way better quality and detail for price.
i wish to buy good set of budget speakers for listening to music on my laptop, should i even consider bookshelf speakers/ studio monitors like 104 ? or look for regular pc speakers ?
The E3.5's lack bass, but they are great for monitoring and mixing above around 500hz.
above 200hz i'd say.. bass is there.. just not punchy deep.. but structure and mix is clear. We use vintage Yamaha speakers for low end, and inears off course to really look at sub bass. I acutally find the mid/high range on the Eris to be almost as good as vintage NS 10.. well not 100%.. but close.. and really good for mixing.. again: this is studio monitors.. not media monitors
@@HR2635 upto 60 hz,,
Thank you very much 👍🤗
Listening to this comparison on JBL 104BT.. 😀. JBL are wonderful for the price..
I think it depends on how your room acoustic treatment and how big your room is, for small room i'll choose presonus eris than jbl.
I found the volume of JBL was at 2 o’clock, while Presonus was at 12. Does it make any differences?
Both are cheap monitors (they have lacks) as a starting point the presonus can help a lot by having the most controlled media and highs, which in the future you can add a subwoofer. The JBL requires certain conditions to listen to them better and can be something hard in the high (hi-fi).
The JBLs are impressive almost like the original tracks
Issen't it difficult to make a comparison when we don't know how the "room control" is used on the Eris?
As far as I saw from his comments, he always sets the room controls to zero / neutral.
Which one you choose for mixing and masterning?
Both lack bass.. This base boost should be at 50hz not at 80 to 100.. Otherwise it is amazing how flat they are.. Incredible how good speakers are today..
JBL has 60hz
damn it! I was about to order the Eris, now this is stopping me....
Haha Just thought exactly the same
@@troycobley9795 yeah, but you know, I made up my mind and will save a bit more and would go for the E5s
@@AngeloGuardia I was going to get the 4.5's then heard the comparison with the e5's but still in love with the JBL 305's. Mrs put a stop to buying them for now haha. For now just for the desktop and casual listening just bought the JBL 104's I know there's better for 99euro there a good compromise for quality and price. Love the presonus sound was blown away by the quality of them. Never even looked at them before I watched these vids.
Why ? Presonus do not have amatch for accuracy and flat response is alsmost perfect not to mention wider sound stage.
Just rented E44s (2x4 one of the more espensive eris models)... Definitely do not get presonus speakers these are not flat at all... Super mid scooped (you can hear the lack of mids in this video) and also very very noisy... I am so glad I am able to rent from my music store before purchasing. I am pretty upset with all reviewers who said they were great. I have lots of experience with high end speakers and I prefer my $12 logitech for midrange accuracy, less noise too. They aren't the worst thing ever but its not a $488 upgrade over my logitech crap.
The original sounds as a > US$ 5000... on a < US$ 1000 (my system).
104 is much closer to the original tracks but the highs on the e3.5 is better. i preffer the 104.
I myself was / am very disappointed with Presonus and the Eris 3.5.
The first pair of boxes remained silent after exactly 2 days.Retoure. Get a new set.
The second pair began to squeak and scratch after 18 months (according to the reviews, this is not a rare problem). after 20 months, the speakers sometimes stopped working... And after a little over 2 years, they completely gave up the ghost.
This also seems to be a problem that is not uncommon if you look up customers at dealers such as Thomann etc.
Well, either I had bad luck twice...or Presonus should definitely work on his QM!
Since I don't feel like stressing about my audio components in my work as a musician...I looked around for another manufacturer (nubert).
Too bad Presonus.
The JBL sound pretty; the presonus sound clear. If you want pretty (for you hi fi, general music listening or gaming), pick the JBL. If you want to mix tracks, go with the Presonus. They don't sound good by themselves, but if you manage to make a track that sounds great in them, it will sound great everywhere else.
The JBL easily the better speaker especially on vocals and it has a much better stereo image !
Yes, while being around $10 cheaper…makes sense…
Damn, I really cannot make a decision here. I'm looking for a pair of speakers for a desktop I have in a small room, just to use them with a laptop (right in front of my face). My main system is a humble pair of Mission M31i speakers, and I use sometimes a Grado SR225i when is necessary. But I don't always want to use headphones (need to hear my baby, doorbell, etc.) and the main system is located elsewhere, not where I work.
So that's why I'm in the search for an as small as possible pair of speakers, but with HiFi signature. That's why studio monitors are a good option for me. I don't like punchy bass, but defined, and also like very detailed highs, with great soundstage (for Jazz specially). I've been watching this and other reviews and I have narrowed down to this two options here (E3.5 and JBL104) and also Edifier r1280t (although this one is a little discarded at the moment).
This video produces me mixed feelings because in some songs the JBL seems to be closer to the original track, but in others for example, the bass feels a little bit muddier than the E3.5; or I have the feeling that the E3.5 lacks middles but sounds more defined that JBL. So I'd like to ask how defined is the bass between the two, how much soundstage do they have? Or if what I'm looking for (on the same price range) is better found in some other pair of speakers?
TL:DR - I'm looking for a recommendation of good (HiFi) speakers as a secondary system for my laptop considering that I don't like punchy bass, but defined; and crispy defined highs. I know I won't get the same sound as my primary system, but I want at least something better than the laptop speakers or some Logitech ones...
Get the 104s.larger 4.5 inch drivers produce great mids though the highs are less crispy than the eris 3.5s.besides the jbl 104s go down to 60hz whereas the eris 3.5s lose steam below 80hz
Jbl for vocal sound quality is great
Digital Stereophony, Which of these two do you personally prefer?
@DSaudio.review Which one is better JBL 104 or presonus Eris 3.5 ?
Would the eris sound better with bass added with knob behind?
Which one is better for a simple recording set?
jbl more low end
jbls definitely have some distortion happening but i like the mid range
Wondering why does Presonus sound so much sharper at highs if their AFR is so similar in highs? Could it be because of the grill on JBL and also the Presonus advertised special tweeter that "is designed to radiate sound with a fairly wide dispersion pattern, creating a large optimal listening area or “sweet spot” so you can move around and still hear everything accurately."? Thus more of highs are hitting the microphone.
Maybe because Presonus has 1'' tweeter and JBL 0.75''?
JBL Quantum Duo vs JBL 104, JBL Quantum Duo vs Logitech G560 please
Why don't you make your test room sound proof for even better results???
Can you do the presonus eris3.5 and Jbl charge 3 sound test?
Just listen "deep" track or "classical violin" and hear what a miss a lot... at JBL... Eris has perfect mid and high with AB class amph.
Owing to the amount of bass, the sound of JBL104 is more immersive, but the definition of E3.5 is clearly higher.
The bass is adjustable on the Eris, the JBL has no HF/LF adjustment.
I own a pair of eris 3.5 and a pair of jbl mkii 305p and even with tuning there in more definition in the eris. But the combo gives you the richness and definition. Paired with a subwoofer too, perfect!
Jbl for listen music, Eris 3.5 for mixing and music production
No jbl also is for mixing
Listen on headphone and focus the detail of "deep" track and classical violine Eris another Galaxy...
@@muhendisabi1697 lol eris have to much high and zero 40-80 hz so no bass
@@djkidii Eris Have great bass(for a dimention) l have both of lsr 305 and eris 3,5 ... Absent quality high on jbl you think suppose have much bass but jbl just less high... İf you want more bass 3,5-4 inch woofer doresn’t delivery enough bass but you can add external wooofer, so if you want quality treble and mid what will you can happen???
JBL connection with RCA or jack TRS or ts ?
What audio mixer did you used and what master db did you set ?
can we really compare this both speakers, i think the jbl is a little bit bigger
Are the original track speakers Klipsch?
please do a video on JBL k4 nano too.
jbl was very near to original, great midrange and high. Plus its coaxial with neodymium magnets.
Pls compare with Jbl nano k4
I Also Want This Comparison JBL 104 vs JBL Nano K4
PreSonus is better at mid and high but lack of bass
I had the 104's, took them back the next day, very low power, not really even enough sound for a small room. The Yamaha NX-50's sound way louder and better for about half the price.
Compare the newer PreSonus E5's to these JBL 104BT's please!b TY & stay safe everyone!
This JBL are the same as the Blutooth version sound wise?
Yes. They are the same speakers.
Presonus definitely have that flat sound which is ideal for monitoring as there is no colouration at all. I’m not sure they would be pleasurable to listen to other than as a reference source. I imagine if you are in a small room they will equally perform better as they have no bass. They would be of no use if anyone works on the lows in their music.
You are wrong with that assesment. Eris 3.5 are not flat at all.
LAS ESCUCHO IGUAL DE BIEN...😄
JBL easily..the miss are just missing in presonus
They both lack in low ends and that’s for the size , but the jbl is way closer to the original track and has a better balance and more flat sound than the presonus , the presonus has very tacky white noise highs and muddy mids , I think the jbl was more honest
and in person, the Eris3.5 are just horrid, I've yet to try the JBLs and Edifier R1280, those look to be the best two for cheap and compact speakers
Presonus give more detail. You can hear the hihat in almost all tracks. The JBL's sound muffled.
M confused please tell JBL or presonus which is good for mix master ?
ultimately niether but the presonus eris 3.5 just aren't good in general. JBL is the definite winner
adam perfect
I don't know what you all are on about but the presonus don't sound flat at all 💀 the jbl sound much more natural, presonus sounds v shaped and narrow, like audio is coming out of a plastic tube into your ears
Presonus have much clearer low and high frequencies. Jbl only seems to be better because it has louder these.
At 2:22 the bass is louder on 104's, but sounds better on Eris
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Any good speaker should REPRODUCE sounds, means the closest possible to the original source. The JBL is much closer to the original for all the song than the Eris.
JBL is way better. It's not that it has better bass, it also has better imaging. The highs are equally detailed in both.
I think you need new ears mate, the 104s clearly have lifted higher mids you can hear it in the presentation. Also no bass/treble adjust.
You sure you are not being paid to side with JBL 😂 It's clearly obvious here. JBL is just not hitting the airwaves like Presonus. The clarity, openness and range is evidently better sounding. To each his own. Night and day to me.
@@twyz0ne presonus sounds like a muffle box, the subs are out of control, god its awful
@@prodbygio9611 Laughable 😂 Presonus for me. Delusional JBL fans 🙆🏾♂️
JBL rocks!
Which one are best for making beats in a small room
sems the jbl has better bass and expansion but lacks on articulation with stressed music like rock. Go for jbl.
Raúl Peralta JBL does have better bass but the higher frequencies sound dull. When producing/mixing, it’s definitely a no go, in my opinion.
@@FernandoDCDuarte So pre sonus eris 3.5 or pre sonus eris 4.5 ?
@@rudolof8540 go for the 3.5, they sound cleaner than 4.5.
@@TranceHistorian
what about bass,how are we gonna mix 808s in eris 3.5 if it lack bass?
will studio headphones help?
Have both of these speakers and prefer the JBL by a country mile. Far better build quality and far better balanced tuning over the Presonus. People have the JBL 104 a hard time when these were released but not at all deserved. It’s an excellent little speaker for a very reasonable price and performs exceptionally well across all genres of music. The build quality is very robust and the JBL can take a knock or two. The Presonus are also a nice little speaker but in real time compared to the JBL, like I said I have both, they sound thin and nowhere near the balance of the JBL. I have the 2nd gen 3.5bt which suffers a mid scoop. Also the build quality of the Presonus is no where near that of the JBL. It’s a cheap chipboard wood with the thinnest vinyl cover that easily peels off as mine did just removing and replacing rubber feet. The JBL will serve your ears better over longer listening periods to and as far as detail goes then don’t let this video fool you into thinking the JBL lacks anything, they don’t and have everything even most producers in the studio would need from and entry level monitor.
The JBL sounds a bit more exciting than the Presonus, but the Presonus has a slightly cleaner sound. The JBL's bass sounds slightly muddy in comparison to the Presonus at times, but the Presonus' sounds a little regressed in the bass department.
Also, my Marshall monitor headphones are awesome!
just eris have more high end
Jbl has more blance realistic sound to my ears
wow, the Presonus sound really thin compared to JBL
Presonus clean sound. I like it
The frequency response measurings of the Presonus Eris 3.5 in your room seem to be pretty smooth.
Cause of the little tip around the 90 Hz bass frequency area I've even turned down the bass knob on these still pretty nice little studio monitors from 50 % (standards setting) to 25 % and extended the lacking low end frequency area on a separate 3rd way with the very nice Japanese Fostex PM-SUBmini 2 subwoofer - which can handle the lower bass frequencies excellently and which reproduces the lower bass very clean and dry.
Presonus sound smooth and much premium.
I wish
jbl slaughter them Eris hands down
You really mean that?
Presonus suena asquerosamente brillante, fatiga asegurada en 5 segundos.
JBL is more boxie sounding.
Man of fire track shows up both speakers don't produce particular well.
JBL Win
104 is definitely closer to the original. Mids are more apparent, and flatter.
Eris seems to exaggerate the highs a lot and the deep lows quite a bit.
2:39 music？？
It's his own song. most of those songs are made by him besides heart afire and another one i can't remember the name of.
I jbl kind of sounds muffled to me.
they are a little bit muffled and has a rich low/mid. Just purchased these. For the price point i can't complain at all to be honest. No one purchases monitors in this price range for accurate mixing/mastering. So for the purpose of every day listening and producing, they definitively do the job well.
The JBL's are great for reference monitors. They don't sound great, which one can use to their advantage. If you get a mix sounding nice and balanced on the JBL's, then it should translate well to other sources. I am running the 104's as my reference monitors and using Adam A5x w/ Sub8. So far so good, but i am still considering the iLoud MTM's to replace the 104's.
Compared to the JBL's the Presonus sound like a "nose pinch."
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Judging from this video they sound the same except for a few things. If you're serious about mixing neither will last you long but starting out I think the E3.5 is more useful. For general listening I think the 104 sounds better. Really can't go wrong with either especially for the price.
I strongly disagree with those who commented that the Eris 3.5's sound neutral and balanced. They sound thin and heavily V-shaped. The emphasized high-mid and treble make them sound hash. JBLs still sound a little shouty but are better in this case.
The Eris' lack mids and the JBL push them a bit too much to my ears. Can we find a middle ground?😂😂
it's probably just the juxtaposition, pretty sure the jbls are flat
That's what an EQ is for
the eris has a quick tone adjust for bass and treble at the back. wonder whether the comparison is based on both in zero position. If so then the eris is definitely a better choice.
Not sure about JBL, but Eris is not the winner
presonus gives more detailed sound
A more thin sound lol
You can really tell the presonus is lacking on the rock track.
& both sound really bad - the choice of highly processed music doesn't help.... Is the sibilance in the mix or is it exaggerated by the speakers & mp3 artifacts ? who knows ? Neither does the fact that it's all compressed phony mp3 - but they sound great !? Or not great at all !? Hah !? :-)
JBL is class D amplifiers! Just run from this! Presonus is class A/B
that's why jbl is distorting everything
Eris wins here easy.
Prefiero ahorrar un poco mas y tener unos mejores monitores, que ir por los mas baratos (no se hagan, los eris 3.5 son los mas baratos junto con los mackie) y luego tener que cambiarlos porque resulto ser que no eran lo suficientemente buenos. Si vamos a empezar hay que hacerlo bien.
Depende, si tú cuarto está bien tratado acusticamente y tienes suficiente espacio en el cuarto. De otra forma es un desperdicio de dinero y conviene más usar los Eris de referencia.
I would choose neither as they have no bass. A pair of Edifier R1850DB powered speakers off amazon sound better than both of these, as you can adjust the bass/treble.
Nope!
No. I have eris 3.5 and a pair of edifier. Totally different
@@fuzzfizz Edifier R1850DB are cheap and beat both of these. In this review the Eris 3.5 win over the JBL.
@@gregd7842 that is not true, at least in my application of recording and mixing music. If for casual listening and enjoyment, that's a different story.
I see you are quit knowledgeable about the edifier line of speakers. For the recorded i don't own any Edifier's, but i have tested them. Your Eris are great if you don't like much bass, and have small room.
Jbl is Hi Fi standard lol
presonus lacks bass also mids
Jbl take it home.
Depends on the purpose. For entertainment and casual vid/music mixing then JBL. Serious vid/music then Eris.
Jbl sounds hollow af, and the the eris sounds shitty in general😂