I have my 38 year old son's car to do, except it's an SS. I could say one is worth more than the other as I fixed them, not body work for over 40+ years. Not looking forward to this with bad knee's and 18 lumbar procedures. Yea! Thanks much for the metal nightmare preview. ASE Master Tech since 78, tech since 72, mechanic since 70.
If the body was off of the frame, you could probably fight the inner and outer in together as one piece and weld the floor pan to the inner from underneath on the back side. With the body still mounted on the frame, you don't have any access to weld the inner rocker to the floor pan unless you leave the outer rocker off and plug weld it. Even if I had pulled the body off the frame though, I'd probably still do them separately to make it easier to fit the panels in the correct orientation like they are from the factory in the area between the rear wheelwell and the B pillar. (The inner structure of the body actually gets "sandwiched" between the inner and outer rockers in that area and would be a pain to align if installing as one piece.)
Start by removing all of the interior and seeing what all actually needs replaced. If it needs a full floor pan, I'd look into just buying replacement seat mounts rather than trying to salvage the old ones. Make sure you have all of the new panels on hand and start scraping the old seam sealer off to expose the edges of the panel that needs to be replaced. Locate and remove spot welds to remove the old pan.
Shit man, you're doing the last piece i haven't tried, the inner rocker. I'm sure 8 just added steel to it its fine for now, but this is starting to bug me. Doing the 1 pc floor was hard, but not as hard as doing the inner rear wheel wells
If you have to do the rear quarters, the rockers aren't too terrible to tackle. If your quarter panels are good though, I'm not sure how you'd be able to do the complete inner and outer rockers without causing some damage to the quarters. I did the drivers side floor pan, and if I had to do it again, I think I'd just do the complete pan with all new seat brackets and brace rather than reusing the originals. I spent more time salvaging that stuff than it was worth to me in the end.
@@NewcomerGarage the PS quarter is already patched. Consider8ng getting a new one. But again , it's a lot more work than patching what's needed. I replaces the rockers when I got the car 20 years ago or so. I'm thinking I didnt do a good job of removing all the old metal, so probably going to grind and see what I did. I was 17 when I got it, and youtube wasn't a thing.
Well... nobody would watch 30hrs of work with little explanation of what you're doing or why you're doing it. That's why things have to be done in time-lapse...
I have my 38 year old son's car to do, except it's an SS. I could say one is worth more than the other as I fixed them, not body work for over 40+ years. Not looking forward to this with bad knee's and 18 lumbar procedures. Yea!
Thanks much for the metal nightmare preview.
ASE Master Tech since 78, tech since 72, mechanic since 70.
Just like most projects, plan to have to replace/repair twice as much as you originally plan to. Thanks for watching, and good luck with your project!
Well done especially balancing life with projects. You mentioned you could not weld the inner/outer together first? Why was that?
If the body was off of the frame, you could probably fight the inner and outer in together as one piece and weld the floor pan to the inner from underneath on the back side. With the body still mounted on the frame, you don't have any access to weld the inner rocker to the floor pan unless you leave the outer rocker off and plug weld it. Even if I had pulled the body off the frame though, I'd probably still do them separately to make it easier to fit the panels in the correct orientation like they are from the factory in the area between the rear wheelwell and the B pillar. (The inner structure of the body actually gets "sandwiched" between the inner and outer rockers in that area and would be a pain to align if installing as one piece.)
If you could do it again would u do rockers with the floor pan out or no
No, the floorpans being in or out doesn't affect the rocker panel replacement.
@@NewcomerGarage thank you, watching your videos as I'm doing the same amount of metal replacement for my wife's 87 monte.
Where would you start when needing to do a floor pan, inner and outer rockers?
Start by removing all of the interior and seeing what all actually needs replaced. If it needs a full floor pan, I'd look into just buying replacement seat mounts rather than trying to salvage the old ones. Make sure you have all of the new panels on hand and start scraping the old seam sealer off to expose the edges of the panel that needs to be replaced. Locate and remove spot welds to remove the old pan.
Where did you get the replacement panel from
I got the quarters from eBay. I eleventh the seller was 21-Motorsports... The inner and outer rocker panels were from Gbodyparts.com
Shit man, you're doing the last piece i haven't tried, the inner rocker. I'm sure 8 just added steel to it its fine for now, but this is starting to bug me. Doing the 1 pc floor was hard, but not as hard as doing the inner rear wheel wells
If you have to do the rear quarters, the rockers aren't too terrible to tackle. If your quarter panels are good though, I'm not sure how you'd be able to do the complete inner and outer rockers without causing some damage to the quarters. I did the drivers side floor pan, and if I had to do it again, I think I'd just do the complete pan with all new seat brackets and brace rather than reusing the originals. I spent more time salvaging that stuff than it was worth to me in the end.
@@NewcomerGarage the PS quarter is already patched. Consider8ng getting a new one. But again , it's a lot more work than patching what's needed. I replaces the rockers when I got the car 20 years ago or so. I'm thinking I didnt do a good job of removing all the old metal, so probably going to grind and see what I did. I was 17 when I got it, and youtube wasn't a thing.
Also, the whole floor pan was a biatch. The middle bar that goes on top to hold the seats does not come in the floor pan.
3 mins of work 20 minutes of talk
Well... nobody would watch 30hrs of work with little explanation of what you're doing or why you're doing it. That's why things have to be done in time-lapse...