I think Nintendo sees the generic enemy characters as kind of interchangeable. They can leave out Koopa Troopa sometimes, because they can just trade him for another enemy to change things up, and most fans won't miss him. They all serve the same purpose.
Once Birdo had gained prominence as a recurring spin off character, she really shouldn't be considered a weird inclusion. She cemented herself as one of the spin-off staples alongside Waluigi and Daisy (but she's hit mainline now, so it's not quite the same) as one of the main character counterparts (Toadette too to a lesser extent, Toad misses a lot of rosters so she never stood a chance). Her exclusion should be a bigger surprise by the Wii era than her inclusion.
Haha, this channel ain't my first rodeo... although my previous channels were never over 10k. The quality might have something to do with how the videos take a month to make lol
💀 But on a serious note the memes if Diddy were playable in Jamboree would be crazy in a post-Diddy era 😭😭 perhaps it’s for the best, or worst idk it’d be hilarious to see diddy kong dnksnskb
Great video! Since I’m a huge fan of King Boo/Boo the only things I would change are that Boo being the biggest exclusion from Mario Party 9 instead of Dry Bones, since Boo debuted in Mario Party 5 and Dry Bones debuted in Mario Party 7. I would’ve also mentioned King Boo as a weird exclusion from Mario Kart 8 on the Wii U’s roster since the previous 2 home console Mario Karts at that point being Double Dash and Wii had King Boo as a playable character. But this is a really well made video and tier list overall!
Imma be honest, i feel like some of those weird exclusions that you gave to Koopa and Toad shouldve gone to Birdo, and some of those weird inclusions shouldnt have gone to Birdo. Like Birdo missing from from Party 10, Super Mario Party (Yoshi was there, neither Toad or Toadette were playable so yoshi needs a partner), and Golf Super Rush, Birdo felt like obviously missing characters. Birdo being the weirdest picks in Party 7 and 9, and Tennis 64 feels weird because 7 had DryBones, 9 had Kamek, and Tennis 64 had Paratroopa, and i say all of this as not a huge Birdo fan, like i like her, but shes no where near my favorites
A big thing I’m judging weirdness on is prominence in the mainline games. Birdo showed up a bit in Bros. 2 and that’s it. If it weren’t for her previous spinoff cred I would rank her similarly to Pom Pom in importance.
i wish you considered weird inclusions as a positive! I think MK7 has one of the coolest rosters that leans into the fact that it was more limited in-scope compared to DD/Wii/8 and focused on cool characters that are exclusive to MK7 to this day.
I get where you’re coming from here. In games like Super Sluggers and Tennis Aces the weird inclusions do count as a positive, the difference is the gulf between the weirdest inclusions and exclusions. Having Honey Queen or whoever playable is cool, but not really worth leaving Waluigi mains high and dry.
@@lapse3721 personally i found metal mario weirder mainly because the metal power-up hadn't been relevant for years meanwhile honey queen was clearly a galaxy 2 tie-in (which i personally don't think was the best choice)
I always found cool that Mario Tennis for the GBA gave you the option to play all the characters from the story. It is a pretty fun RPG Tennis like adventure mode and the personalization of your character for the special moves and stats was pretty cool.
One of my favorite parts of the Mario spinoffs is seeing characters from a main series entry become a mainstay, like Petey and Rosalina did, and I really wish they'd do it more often. Nabbit and Pauline seem to have gotten halfway there, but I was really hoping we would see characters like Cappy, or Plessie, or even Lubba get a shot at being a spinoff star. Heck, give Prince Florian a go! There's so many cool options they just leave on the table, and I get why, but c'mon Nintendo get weird with it
You have a Koopa Troopa obsession. He's cool but like sometimes he's not necessary. Paratroopa and Dry Bones are just better Koopa Troopa, so if they're here, I feel like Koopa Troopa isn't needed (except in double dash) My main criticism about the Jamboree roster is having Koopa Troopa instead of Dry Bones, who was there since 7. (And also the fact that there is 0 character in Jamboree that wasn't already playable in previous game, like Goomba in Super Mario Party or Chomp in Mario Tennis Aces (exclusing Mario Sluggers of course))
I feel like Paratroopa and Dry Bones are sorta just variants of Koopa Troopa. It's weird for them to get in over Koopa in the same way it would be weird to have Waluigi but not Wario, or Baby Peach but not Peach.
I mean... birdo was pretty obscure and toadette was created whole cloth for double dash. They are important to have around so there are good female characters though.
Man I actual would have enjoyed this if you did not drop a game because of koopa troops missing that ruined it for me. Mario party 8 for example should have been a tier but because no koopa troops nope.
lol on further inspection Mario Party 8 totally could be an A tier. It’s less about missing Koopa Troopa and more that it was directly compared to other Wii games like MKWii, Super Sluggers, and Strikers Charged.
@@lapse3721 If they would include Luigi costumes, I do think that any power up of a new Mario game would be used, just like Elephant Peach. Gooigi would maybe fit it if it's also in the next Luigi's Mansion game. I personally would also use Dr. Mario as a Mario costume. I changed my message.
I feel like there are some points that were not in thought of the weird inclusion and odd exclusions. Which could’ve been done better by categorizing characters For example by now the absolutely bare minimum in any Mario spin off game characters are: Mario, Luigi, Peach, Yoshi, Wario Then we have the expanded bare minimum (which is mostly the norm in current times) those include: Daisy, Waluigi, Rosalina, Bowser Jr., DK (now Pauline seems to be joining) The In-Betweens which would be the characters that switch between playable character and NPCs: Toad, Toadette, Bowser The sometimes they’re here sometimes they are not: Birdo, Diddy Kong The enemies characters, which for most games especially in the Mario Party Franchise seem to be interchangeable for their similarities in between the variations and low player attraction to the character (also some of these are used as NPCs hence the absence of them in the roster, but they’re not as focused as the ones mention in the other ‘tier’): Koopa Troopa, Para Troopa, Hammer Bro, Spike, Monty Mole, Goomba, Boo, Shy Guy, Pom Pom, Dry Bones, Ninji, Lakity Of course this changes from series to series but this is what I found most commonly throughout the games, what did find very odd in ur commentary is how Birdo keeps being depicted as the odd inclusion in games where is very well passed the time where she could be an odd inclusion, and of course the biased for Koopa Troopa being an ‘odd exclusion’ when they’re almost identical characters in the roster doesn’t make sense since you could easily depict that they’re too similar and it would be taking two slots. Also the lack of consideration in counting certain characters as odd exclusions when they’re NPCs in said game is an odd choice with all due respect.
19:46 I think the fire variant was a good choice because it suits its playstyle in-game. It has a very strong top-spin which is essentially this powerful, fiery shot that can causes the opponents to be knockbacked and also suits the character. Also, it allowed it to be differentiated from Petey who is essentially the piranha plant representative of the entire series.
0:16 I actually heard somewhere that Jr. was chosen over DK for SMK bc Jr’s white tank top helped him not blend in as much with the course backgrounds. Don’t know how true this is tho
Personally, I'd rank _Super Mario Party Jamboree_ (and also _Mario Party Superstars_ ) lower than _Super Mario Party_ because of the lack of Diddy Kong.
Made sense you didn't include Fortune Street because it's not really a Mario game, but tbh all the weird choices in that game come from the Dragon Quest side. Not including the heroes is weird but they had a rule about that or something, but they left out my man Torneko from the Venture Capitalist game?????
Also it's kinda funny how you long you went without conceding that Birdo was a mainstay. She can't be the weirdest inclusion forever come on! (Respect the hating tho)
Would be pretty tricky to figure out where to draw the line at who's a Mario character and who isn't haha. Not to mention having all of the super obscure like one-off characters from Mario Land or SMB 2! That would be really cool though.
It’s crazy how Toad wasn’t playable in Mario Party after The Top 100, it feels so wrong to me even though i mainly play with Luigi Anyways. Also Goomba for Mario Kart 9, I swear he needs to be in it
The weirdest inclusion for double dash imo is Koopa Paratroopa. He's the same thing as normal Koopa, couldnt you have added idk shy guy. But i agree koopa troopa is based
I'd be curious about your thoughts on the Mario choices for Smash Bros. I know it's not a true Mario spin-off, but it has more Mario characters than some of the true Mario spin-offs
Sure. Dr. Mario being in Ultimate is a bit wacky. K. Rool is fun and super surprising. Piranha Plant is completely wild. Weird exclusions are Toad, Waluigi, and Koopa Troopa. B tier overall.
You're mostly just judging the size of the rosters, MK64 has the best balance with the most variety of types of characters and no filler clone characters like Daisy, Waluigi, and Toadette, and also no generic interchangeable enemies like Koopa and Boo.
Exactly! Well I wouldn't say Daisy, Waluigi and Toadette are clones, but I agree that MK64 has the purest roster. I think it's absurd to say Tennis Aces is better when half the characters are interchangeable Bowser's minions that have no reason to be there. Quantity isn't quality.
I like Daisy, Waluigi, and Toadette, I'm just saying that they're extensions of pre existing characters. Mario is the main character, Luigi is the sidekick/partner, Peach is the love interest, Toad is the supporting character, Yoshi is the pet/mount/animal, Bowser is the villain, Wario is the rival, and DK is the external frenemy that also represents Mario's pre-SMB days. Daisy is another love interest, Waluigi is another rival, and Toadette is another supporting character. They don't really add a lot of variety.
I see where you’re coming from but the various enemies are probably my favorite characters. (Obviously this is very subjective) I will say that since the Mario series is so light on characterization that visual design and fan following are more important than character traits.
It's a very solid roster given the technology, times, and overall size. Its biggest weakness by far is only having one woman. Would go Birdo (or Daisy) over Wario for that reason, but there's not any duds here.
A question! Is there a sign of Geno in Mario Hoops 3-on-3, Fortune Street and Mario Sports Mix? If he actually belongs to Square Enix, then he's likely playable. But if I'm wrong, correct me.
you should make a sequel to this but with the mainline games I always hated how they included blue toad and yellow toad over yoshi and wario in new super mario bros Wii
This is unclear in canon. That's possible, but I think it's more likely that Jr. is DK's father and modern DK is DK III. In any case, it's pretty normalized for the same character to appear multiple times at different ages in the same game. (because of the babies). They both appear in Tennis 64.
S tier, yeah. I didn't rank it for the same reason I didn't rank Mario's Tennis for the Virtual Boy; because it isn't on a mainline Nintendo console or handheld. Also it's weird because there's no real way to actually unlock all the characters.
I decided not to talk much about crossover characters unless they were particularly surprising. And the Miis felt quite natural every time they appeared.
i think this guy might like koopa troopa
Hmm... what gives you that impression?
@@lapse3721just a lucky guess probably
I don't Blame him.
I'm more of a Paratroopa guy myself.
I’m a Koopa guy too. Can’t believe they would do that to my boy. 😔
I think Nintendo sees the generic enemy characters as kind of interchangeable. They can leave out Koopa Troopa sometimes, because they can just trade him for another enemy to change things up, and most fans won't miss him. They all serve the same purpose.
I also feel like koopa troopa shouldn’t have been the weirdest exclusion in games with para troopa because they’re basically the same
Once Birdo had gained prominence as a recurring spin off character, she really shouldn't be considered a weird inclusion. She cemented herself as one of the spin-off staples alongside Waluigi and Daisy (but she's hit mainline now, so it's not quite the same) as one of the main character counterparts (Toadette too to a lesser extent, Toad misses a lot of rosters so she never stood a chance). Her exclusion should be a bigger surprise by the Wii era than her inclusion.
100% agree, birdo not being included in a big roster is weirder than if she is. same with waluigi, theyve been spin off staples for YEARS
17:23 shows character development in his story arc. He sees Birdo as a common reoccuring character by this point.
Bro I thought this guy had above 10k, talk about quality.
Haha, this channel ain't my first rodeo... although my previous channels were never over 10k. The quality might have something to do with how the videos take a month to make lol
I think diddy isn't playable in too many Mario Party games, cause we all know, there ain't no party like a diddy party.
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But on a serious note the memes if Diddy were playable in Jamboree would be crazy in a post-Diddy era 😭😭 perhaps it’s for the best, or worst idk it’d be hilarious to see diddy kong dnksnskb
Great video! Since I’m a huge fan of King Boo/Boo the only things I would change are that Boo being the biggest exclusion from Mario Party 9 instead of Dry Bones, since Boo debuted in Mario Party 5 and Dry Bones debuted in Mario Party 7. I would’ve also mentioned King Boo as a weird exclusion from Mario Kart 8 on the Wii U’s roster since the previous 2 home console Mario Karts at that point being Double Dash and Wii had King Boo as a playable character. But this is a really well made video and tier list overall!
Good catch on King Boo in Mario Kart 8! He totally should have been there!
Tbh weirdest exclution from star rush shouldve been Birdo tbh litterally the entire roster is goodies so where is she-
Nahhhh there are literally no Bowser characters. Koopa Troopa or Bowser Jr. should have been there!
I will never understand how anyone can consider the Koopalings in MK8 a bad inclusion. Legacy boss characters they are, and were relevant at the time.
I'm a big fan of them for sure. The real problem in MK8 was the missing characters. I'd sooner replace the babies and costumes than the koopalings.
It's not that the koopalings were there. It's everyone who wasn't.
Imma be honest, i feel like some of those weird exclusions that you gave to Koopa and Toad shouldve gone to Birdo, and some of those weird inclusions shouldnt have gone to Birdo.
Like Birdo missing from from Party 10, Super Mario Party (Yoshi was there, neither Toad or Toadette were playable so yoshi needs a partner), and Golf Super Rush, Birdo felt like obviously missing characters. Birdo being the weirdest picks in Party 7 and 9, and Tennis 64 feels weird because 7 had DryBones, 9 had Kamek, and Tennis 64 had Paratroopa, and i say all of this as not a huge Birdo fan, like i like her, but shes no where near my favorites
A big thing I’m judging weirdness on is prominence in the mainline games. Birdo showed up a bit in Bros. 2 and that’s it. If it weren’t for her previous spinoff cred I would rank her similarly to Pom Pom in importance.
@lapse3721 in that regard I can understand your reasoning
i wish you considered weird inclusions as a positive! I think MK7 has one of the coolest rosters that leans into the fact that it was more limited in-scope compared to DD/Wii/8 and focused on cool characters that are exclusive to MK7 to this day.
I get where you’re coming from here. In games like Super Sluggers and Tennis Aces the weird inclusions do count as a positive, the difference is the gulf between the weirdest inclusions and exclusions. Having Honey Queen or whoever playable is cool, but not really worth leaving Waluigi mains high and dry.
@lapse3721 Waluigi fans should be greatful he still around instead of being a one off character.
@@lapse3721 personally i found metal mario weirder mainly because the metal power-up hadn't been relevant for years meanwhile honey queen was clearly a galaxy 2 tie-in (which i personally don't think was the best choice)
I have no idea how you only have 18 subscribers this video was great
lol give it time
hahaha this reply aged
185 now
I like how Mario Rosters can either range from being the most cool picks to literal made up characters just to take space 💀
Of course that's how Toadette, Waluigi, and Baby Daisy began
@@lapse3721at least toadette and waluigi are memorable, the excessive baby versions are the problem
I always found cool that Mario Tennis for the GBA gave you the option to play all the characters from the story. It is a pretty fun RPG Tennis like adventure mode and the personalization of your character for the special moves and stats was pretty cool.
Me too, and frankly Im so sick of people distespecting this game, because of the original human characters
so real on the koopa troopa love
Stop glazing koopa troopa 💀
Can’t stop won’t stop 😎
I love you rupturing my ear drums every few minutes in this video
One of my favorite parts of the Mario spinoffs is seeing characters from a main series entry become a mainstay, like Petey and Rosalina did, and I really wish they'd do it more often. Nabbit and Pauline seem to have gotten halfway there, but I was really hoping we would see characters like Cappy, or Plessie, or even Lubba get a shot at being a spinoff star. Heck, give Prince Florian a go! There's so many cool options they just leave on the table, and I get why, but c'mon Nintendo get weird with it
For real. I was quite surprised that Cappy never showed up.
You have a Koopa Troopa obsession.
He's cool but like sometimes he's not necessary. Paratroopa and Dry Bones are just better Koopa Troopa, so if they're here, I feel like Koopa Troopa isn't needed (except in double dash)
My main criticism about the Jamboree roster is having Koopa Troopa instead of Dry Bones, who was there since 7. (And also the fact that there is 0 character in Jamboree that wasn't already playable in previous game, like Goomba in Super Mario Party or Chomp in Mario Tennis Aces (exclusing Mario Sluggers of course))
I feel like Paratroopa and Dry Bones are sorta just variants of Koopa Troopa. It's weird for them to get in over Koopa in the same way it would be weird to have Waluigi but not Wario, or Baby Peach but not Peach.
mario super sluggers mentioned 🗣️🗣️🔥🔥
I think this guy should have more followers
I'm a simple man. I see good content. I like good content. I subscribe.
This is the most straight to the point into to a video I've even seen
Thank you! One of my pet peeves is overly long intros so I try to keep em quick.
birdo and toadette are not weird 😓😢
I mean... birdo was pretty obscure and toadette was created whole cloth for double dash. They are important to have around so there are good female characters though.
@ i will agree weird origins but we have normalized them 🙌💯
Here before this guy becomes the next big mario youtuber
It could happen if I don’t run out of motivation lol
Man I actual would have enjoyed this if you did not drop a game because of koopa troops missing that ruined it for me. Mario party 8 for example should have been a tier but because no koopa troops nope.
Nah bias like that in these kind of lists make them more entertaining
lol on further inspection Mario Party 8 totally could be an A tier. It’s less about missing Koopa Troopa and more that it was directly compared to other Wii games like MKWii, Super Sluggers, and Strikers Charged.
You would think that the baby bros would have been playable in World tour and Aces
Wild that you have so few subs, also glad to see another certified koopa troopa enjoyer
I was surprised when I saw you having only 200 subs, the video is pretty well made
The toad glazing is almost as crazy as the humans and waluigi hate💀
Nothing crazy about hating waluigi.
@@INFERNO95 dawg who asked💀💀💀💀
Lovely channel!!! This seems like very high quality content coming!
Bro’s gonna throw a riot if Koopa Troopa isn’t playable in Mario Farts On Rainbows 17
Real
Watch this space if that game releases.
*My ideal Mario Kart 10 roster (40 characters in total):*
Mario+, Luigi+, Peach+, Daisy, Rosalina, Pauline, Yoshi+ & Birdo+
Toad+, Toadette, Koopa Troopa+, Dry Bones, Shy Guy+, Lakitu, Kamek & Hammer Bros+.
Baby Mario, Baby Luigi, Baby Peach, Baby Daisy, Diddy Kong, Funky Kong, Bowser Jr. & Dry Bowser
Wario, Waluigi, Donkey Kong, Bowser, Petey Piranha, Wiggler, King Boo & King Bob-Omb
Honey Queen, Monty Mole, Dixie Kong, Nabbit, Donkey Kong Jr., R.O.B., Professor E. Gadd & PAC-Man would be DLC
Characters with a + behind their name have costumes or alternative colors. These are:
- Mario: Regular, Tanooki Mario, Dr. Mario, Metal Mario & Gold Mario
- Luigi: Regular, Pinguin Luigi, Gooigi & Luigi with power up from new Mario game
- Peach: Regular, Cat Peach, Pink Gold Peach & Elephant Peach
- Yoshi: Green (Regular), Yellow, Pink, Light Blue, Dark Blue, Red, Black, White, Purple & Orange
- Birdo: Pink (Regular), Green, Yellow, Light Blue, Dark Blue, Red, Black, White, Purple & Orange
- Toad: Regular, Green, Yellow, Pink, Light Blue, Dark Blue, Black, Purple, Orange, Captain Toad & Toadsworth
- Koopa Troopa: Green (Regular), Yellow, Pink, Dark Blue, Red, Orange + Red, Green & Dark Blue Koopa Paratroopa
- Shy Guy: Red (Regular), Green, Yellow, Pink, Light Blue, Dark Blue, Black, White, Purple & Orange
- Hammer Bros: Hammer (Regular), Fire, Ice, Boomerang & Sledge Bro
Cut characters: Baby Rosalina, Koopalings, Villager (M/F), Isabelle, Link & Inkling (M/F).
Characters in consideration but didn't make the cut: Ms. PAC-Man, Fly Guy, Chargin' Chuck, Goomba & more variants
No Luigi costumes? Also having PAC-Man but not Link is wild to me. I really like your picks otherwise though.
@@lapse3721 Yea I personally think they should stick to Mario Kart & their arcade games, not more Nintendo characters.
Penguin Luigi is a favorite costume of mine. Gooigi could work as well.
@@lapse3721 If they would include Luigi costumes, I do think that any power up of a new Mario game would be used, just like Elephant Peach. Gooigi would maybe fit it if it's also in the next Luigi's Mansion game. I personally would also use Dr. Mario as a Mario costume. I changed my message.
Only 170 subs??? How!!!! This was a great video! Got me through my lunch. Enjoy a sub!
I feel like there are some points that were not in thought of the weird inclusion and odd exclusions. Which could’ve been done better by categorizing characters
For example by now the absolutely bare minimum in any Mario spin off game characters are: Mario, Luigi, Peach, Yoshi, Wario
Then we have the expanded bare minimum (which is mostly the norm in current times) those include: Daisy, Waluigi, Rosalina, Bowser Jr., DK (now Pauline seems to be joining)
The In-Betweens which would be the characters that switch between playable character and NPCs: Toad, Toadette, Bowser
The sometimes they’re here sometimes they are not: Birdo, Diddy Kong
The enemies characters, which for most games especially in the Mario Party Franchise seem to be interchangeable for their similarities in between the variations and low player attraction to the character (also some of these are used as NPCs hence the absence of them in the roster, but they’re not as focused as the ones mention in the other ‘tier’): Koopa Troopa, Para Troopa, Hammer Bro, Spike, Monty Mole, Goomba, Boo, Shy Guy, Pom Pom, Dry Bones, Ninji, Lakity
Of course this changes from series to series but this is what I found most commonly throughout the games, what did find very odd in ur commentary is how Birdo keeps being depicted as the odd inclusion in games where is very well passed the time where she could be an odd inclusion, and of course the biased for Koopa Troopa being an ‘odd exclusion’ when they’re almost identical characters in the roster doesn’t make sense since you could easily depict that they’re too similar and it would be taking two slots.
Also the lack of consideration in counting certain characters as odd exclusions when they’re NPCs in said game is an odd choice with all due respect.
When are we going to get a new playable character like Cappy, Gooigi, or Lumalee (if it's possible)?
Bro I thought this guy had 100k subs. I can tell this is going to get you a lot of views.
19:46 I think the fire variant was a good choice because it suits its playstyle in-game. It has a very strong top-spin which is essentially this powerful, fiery shot that can causes the opponents to be knockbacked and also suits the character. Also, it allowed it to be differentiated from Petey who is essentially the piranha plant representative of the entire series.
they should add the normal humans as playable characters in mainline games
That would be so funny actually
Mario Superstar Baseball and Super Sluggers had a great roster larger than most Kart or Party games.
0:16 I actually heard somewhere that Jr. was chosen over DK for SMK bc Jr’s white tank top helped him not blend in as much with the course backgrounds. Don’t know how true this is tho
I have never heard that before! Very interesting. I wonder if that was part of the reason for leaving Goomba out as well.
@@lapse3721 It probably was!
I’m surprised Nabbit hasn’t popped up as playable atleast once
He has! You could play as Nabbit in Mario Golf World Tour (and Mario Kart Tour).
Hot take: I absolutely adore Nabbit. I love the Swiper type thief angle. Although him being playable in a main game was very odd.
Koopa’s my favorite Mario character and he’s done so dirty in these spin-off games 😂😂 Like how do you have Paratroopa and not the regular Koopa?! 💀💀
Personally, I'd rank _Super Mario Party Jamboree_ (and also _Mario Party Superstars_ ) lower than _Super Mario Party_ because of the lack of Diddy Kong.
Why is Wario always the weird inclusion? He’s literally a staple and has been in the spin offs almost from the start?
Well, he's not that weird. He only ends up as the weirdest inclusion in really small rosters. Wario's weirder than Mario, Luigi, Peach, and Bowser.
Koopa bias is based, subbed
Subscribing now I feel potential in this channel
Your love for Toad and Koopa Troopa is the same as mine for Dry Bones
Also, you did not just overlook Dry Bones not being in Jamboree. :(
Oh shoot! That was a major oversight! Dry Bones is definitely a weirder exclusion than Diddy Kong. He’s super cool.
Thanks for the video
You’re welcome
Made sense you didn't include Fortune Street because it's not really a Mario game, but tbh all the weird choices in that game come from the Dragon Quest side. Not including the heroes is weird but they had a rule about that or something, but they left out my man Torneko from the Venture Capitalist game?????
Also it's kinda funny how you long you went without conceding that Birdo was a mainstay. She can't be the weirdest inclusion forever come on! (Respect the hating tho)
Imagine a Mario spin-off that includes every character in the Mario universe in one huge package!
Would be pretty tricky to figure out where to draw the line at who's a Mario character and who isn't haha. Not to mention having all of the super obscure like one-off characters from Mario Land or SMB 2! That would be really cool though.
1:53 they probably chose paratroopa bc koopas are slow asf. paratroopa at least can move fast enough to fly
Koopa’s fast enough for Mario Strikers. Faster than DK, Bowser, Wario, and others in that game.
22:17 It's honestly criminal to have excluded Dry Bones and Hammer Bro in favor of Spike.
It's a goofy move for sure. Spike is kinda fun though?
It’s crazy how Toad wasn’t playable in Mario Party after The Top 100, it feels so wrong to me even though i mainly play with Luigi Anyways.
Also Goomba for Mario Kart 9, I swear he needs to be in it
the goomba hope is real... stay tuned for me to put together that video
Rosalina not being in sports mix was criminal
The weirdest inclusion for double dash imo is Koopa Paratroopa. He's the same thing as normal Koopa, couldnt you have added idk shy guy. But i agree koopa troopa is based
Fair enough. Toadette didn’t exist before Double Dash but Paratroopa is still a weirder pick than Shy Guy.
That NBA Basketball game is goated
Nah, where's Mario Kart Tour because that was the best Mario Kart roster ever. They had POOCHY. 😭
They had like everyone 😂😂
Can’t have it on there cuz it would have blown all the rest out of the water haha
Poochy is an s-tier character
I'd be curious about your thoughts on the Mario choices for Smash Bros. I know it's not a true Mario spin-off, but it has more Mario characters than some of the true Mario spin-offs
Sure. Dr. Mario being in Ultimate is a bit wacky. K. Rool is fun and super surprising. Piranha Plant is completely wild. Weird exclusions are Toad, Waluigi, and Koopa Troopa. B tier overall.
Cool video but I wished you added the Mario Kart arcade games, the mobile games and also the Mario and Sonic games excluding the Sonic characters.
Fair enough. I considered doing them but the video was getting pretty long already.
You're mostly just judging the size of the rosters, MK64 has the best balance with the most variety of types of characters and no filler clone characters like Daisy, Waluigi, and Toadette, and also no generic interchangeable enemies like Koopa and Boo.
Exactly!
Well I wouldn't say Daisy, Waluigi and Toadette are clones, but I agree that MK64 has the purest roster.
I think it's absurd to say Tennis Aces is better when half the characters are interchangeable Bowser's minions that have no reason to be there. Quantity isn't quality.
I like Daisy, Waluigi, and Toadette, I'm just saying that they're extensions of pre existing characters.
Mario is the main character, Luigi is the sidekick/partner, Peach is the love interest, Toad is the supporting character, Yoshi is the pet/mount/animal, Bowser is the villain, Wario is the rival, and DK is the external frenemy that also represents Mario's pre-SMB days.
Daisy is another love interest, Waluigi is another rival, and Toadette is another supporting character. They don't really add a lot of variety.
I see where you’re coming from but the various enemies are probably my favorite characters. (Obviously this is very subjective)
I will say that since the Mario series is so light on characterization that visual design and fan following are more important than character traits.
@@Quinhala11Daisy was never a love interest. Get your facts straight.
It's a very solid roster given the technology, times, and overall size. Its biggest weakness by far is only having one woman. Would go Birdo (or Daisy) over Wario for that reason, but there's not any duds here.
I’m curious as to where you’d put the Mario and Sonic Olympics rosters
Diddy was going to be in jamboree until he was cut very late in development for obvious external factors.
What really? Did somebody find this out recently?
Is this true cause if so thats dumb
Apricot is a solid addition tbh
blooper deserves better
Truth. I totally hope he is playable in the next Mario Kart it would be so funny.
Mario Tennis on Virtual Boy Missing
Oh come on I mentioned it didn’t I
My roster:
1-mario
2-luigi
3-peach
4-daisy
5-rosalina
6-pauline
7-wario
8-waluigi
9-yoshi
10-birdo
11-toad
12-toadette
13-bowser
14-bowser jr
15-kamek
16-king boo
17-petey piranha
18-boom boom
19-koopa
20-goomba
21-dry bones
22-shy guy
23-ninji
24-wiggler
25-donkey kong
26-diddy kong
27-paper mario
28-e gadd
29-9 volt
30-mii
4:51 Chun Li got in over Yoshi.
Haha she totally does look like Chun-Li.
Somehow Mario Strickers League has a worst roster than Supercharged for the Wii.
It’s strange that your “weirdest inclusion” would be peachette for MK8DX instead of one of the non Mario characters
I decided not to include the crossover characters in the running.
Bro is attracted to koopas
Fun video, although I feel like Koopa Troopa isn’t THAT necessary of a character
I mean... he shows up in basically every mainline game. Who else matches that? Mario, Luigi, Peach, Bowser, and Goomba and thats basically it.
I would always take diddy kong dry bone,koopa troopa and toad over all the baby character
For me, they should change Diddy kong to Didi Kong
My Roster:
1 - Mario
2 - Luigi
3 - Peach
4 - Toad
5 - Bowser (Dry Alt)
6 - DK
7 - Daisy
8 - Rosalina
9 -Wario
10 - Waluigi
11 - Yoshi
12 - Koopa (Dry Bones Alt)
13 - Cappy
14 - Shy Guy
15 - Bowser Jr (Koopalings As Alts)
16 - Toadette
17 - Birdo
18 - Diddy Kong
19 - Cranky
20 - Pauline
Having Cranky here but not Kamek, Funky, Dixie, Lakitu, or King Boo is kinda crazy to me. Including Cappy is based though.
Can’t believe he was forgotten about after Oddysey. Also I genuinely forgot about all the people you mentioned lol
It sucks i can't enjoy and play mario baseball super sluggers as it wasn't released in the UK💔
I didn’t realize that! I guess it makes some sense as baseball isn’t that popular outside of the US and Japan.
"the weirdest inclusion is toadette" for double dash?? paratroopa is right there
Toadette was the Pink Gold Peach of her time. She was invented whole cloth for double dash.
4:44 40?
edit: not too far off lol
A question! Is there a sign of Geno in Mario Hoops 3-on-3, Fortune Street and Mario Sports Mix? If he actually belongs to Square Enix, then he's likely playable. But if I'm wrong, correct me.
I don't believe he shows up in those games.
you should make a sequel to this but with the mainline games I always hated how they included blue toad and yellow toad over yoshi and wario in new super mario bros Wii
I don't think there's really enough variance in those rosters to do it. Maybe a short?
@lapse3721 still would be interesting otherwise.
Mario Super Sluggers have the most complete character roster, the only miss is Rosalina
shocked how snubbed koopa troopa is.
You missed super mario maker 2 the original mario maker doesn't have a roster but in smm2 you can play as Mario, Luigi, Toad, or Toadette.
I decided not to do platformers in this video, so Mario Maker 2 and Mario Wonder and 3D World aren't in there.
DK Jr and modern DK are the same person btw
This is unclear in canon. That's possible, but I think it's more likely that Jr. is DK's father and modern DK is DK III. In any case, it's pretty normalized for the same character to appear multiple times at different ages in the same game. (because of the babies). They both appear in Tennis 64.
Justice for Koopa Toad and Diddy
not that diddy though lol
probably why they removed him lol
I think you mistaken donkey kong with koopa troopa in the mario party games
Do you like Koopa?
12:54 there's spike 😂
Is fucking Chun Liun one of those pictures for Mario Tennis Power Tour?
No, but she has a striking resemblance to her.
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Where’s Mario kart tour?
in S tier lol
S tier, yeah. I didn't rank it for the same reason I didn't rank Mario's Tennis for the Virtual Boy; because it isn't on a mainline Nintendo console or handheld. Also it's weird because there's no real way to actually unlock all the characters.
Did you know the uproot is in a new Mario game that is not Mario odyssey or Mario run, not giving you a clue cause I am a Koop hater.
Minecraft is not a new Mario game
@ Minecraft is a Mario game, Mario’s in the switch verison so it counts
Where is fortune street?
I did not know that game existed until now! I’ll have to check it out!
@lapse3721 don't get your hopes up if you don't like monopoly
Why did bro forget the Miis
I decided not to talk much about crossover characters unless they were particularly surprising. And the Miis felt quite natural every time they appeared.
Cool video, you gotta make more videos like this man! You’re earning yourself a sub from me for W content
Huh.. this guy has less subs than my dumpster fire channel?
There a reason diddy kong wasn't in jamboree
I'd put Mario hoops higher
12:08 Rosalina & Dry Bowser
17:59 Not Pink Gold Peach??
It was certainly close between those two.
You forgot Fortune Street
Didn't know it existed until another commenter told me about it!