The journalistic profession isn't what it used to be. It has been an elitist profession but it has become the most dishonest profession of all aside from the professions of politicians and lawyers. Even the anti-establishment journalists tend to lie and to be very biased because they themselves don't care for the truth anymore. Truth has been cast away from the profession. It's all about stories and making money.
It makes them squirm. I don't understand why. They aren't responsible but it seems like they want cover up the sins of their ancestors which are many. I noticed how the media has plenty of time to cover BS topics such as what kind of dress Kate Middleton was wearing or about Kim Kardashian. It's ridiculous and those of us with a brain get it. It's all orchestrated to distract from the cold hard realities set forth.
South African here. Mo is SOLID and he actually cares about African issues. The Interviewer Tim holds Eurocentric views, he also failed to answer all the questions thrown back at him about the hypocrisy of the Global North. Mo has represented us well.
Mo has Africacentric views, Tim Eurocentric, thats a given fact. It also affects how Mo is wrong about some things that has happened in EU, for example of course EU will take care of EU people first, just like African would take care of African first. Also Greece financial crisis wasn't immidiately sorted out, many EU countries had to give financial aid to Greece, and multiple times and it took years, think my country gave Greece financial aid 2 times, the money didn't just pop into existence. Greece got also quite a bit criticism from this and they also had huge internal crisis because of this. Thankfully Greece sorted this out with the aid as far as I am aware. But again Greece is in EU and its part of EU internal politics, African continent is part of EU foreign politics. It's same as if say Ethiopia is in financial crisis and rest of African Union came to its aid.
Mo cares more about you, than your own ANC government. Instead of emancipating yourself you keep falling for the cheap drivel of everything is the fault of the west. Your people keep selling their vote for a t-shirt and a bucket of fried chicken to a bunch of corrupt crooks who will sell the whole country until there is nothing of value left. Do you honestly think the Chinese or Russians make better partners to you?😂 I love your country and wish you the very best!
There is more distastes and rotten geo-politicals perspectives about the westerns world, their euro-centrics, their medias and governance. All their nuance is hidden under capitalism and entitlement to dominate , colonised (in many disguises), and hawkish interventions. The political adage for Africans to debunk the socio philosophy of euro-centric minds. Africa would requires a revolution to remove the illegitimacy of euro centrism, and begin a new dawn of African perspectives.
@@Jahvec Yet many EU countries have continuously purchased Russian gas through India, blatant double dealing while claiming to support Ukraine. You also didn't address Bobby's point on european hypocrisy - sure they may be looking out for their own interests (duh) but why is the onus on condemning Russia solely on Africans?
The idea of US applying there "rules" to themselves is great. But US never could manage to do this intellectual exercise. Rules are for others - Russians, Africans, Chinese. Rules are for slaves, not for the master.
"Russians, Africans, Chinese.." Did you know African is a geographical term and not an ethnic or "rav ial" category or nationality. Africa is a continent, not a village.
@MariaNI-yf1bz What he said is correct. Show me the African country that the USA is treating as equals? I will add to his list, Arabs. Biden said he will make Saudi a pariah state. This comming from a guy that voted in favor of the war in Iraq when he was a Senator, now he wants to preach to others. I don't see anybody in the USA or the West confronting him about his obvious hypocricy. How can the Democrats even allow such a guy to run for president? When are the USA going to show us the weapons of mass destruction or pay reparations for the killing of Iraqis and destruction of their country? Will the West ever have that conversation? Was there any discussion of possibly charging Bush and Blair with War Crimes? The worst is when gas prices exploded in Bidens USA thanks to his anti energy stance he ran back to Saudi begging the very nation he threatened. The arrogance of Biden and the USA is beyond believe or comprehension. During Covid-19, Biden put a travel ban on the Southern African region because South Africa identified Omicron. The whole world followed his lead. Two weeks later the UK had ten times the daily infections of Omicron that Southern Africa states had. Guess what, no travel ban was placed on the white UK but Biden kept the travel ban on Southern African nations. Russians, Chinese , Africans and Arabs are not treated the same as others by the US. I am I white man living in Africa I know exactly how the US treats Africans.
It was just as recently as 2011 that NATO unilaterally destroyed Libya despite African union opposition to it up to this date a once prosperous Libya has never recovered and it is vastly a failed state, the voices of African did not matter to the collective west then why should Africa now support the west when things are going against their interests..??
@@juliarichter6987 Which one? The official Tripolis government backed by Turkey or the counter government lead by general Haftar and backed by Russians and Wagner?
Mo is completely and utterly right in his reasoning. The journalist tried his hardest to spin the issue, to play with words and push false narratives (this is what they're paid to do, they're professional liars) and Mo completely shut him down lol
Great interview from the Elders. Africans are not slaves and won't be taking a backseat to anything. We want to be respected and just treated the same. We can't just play nice and others treat us like slaves.
I agree with you. But before we get respected by others, we need to respect ourselves first. If we can do that for ourselves, we should not expect any other people to respect us
@@kassimsaeed789 I agree and I can say we have been trying but sabotage elements are used to created divisions within our communities. Be it race or ethnicity etc. so until we al wake up to the agenda then we just in the system of distraction and this systems are affecting all people in their communities. Waking up to tyranny is important for world peace.
Then if that’s what we want we need to stop taking Chenese money Thought we learned from west But now Chenese are doing the same to us and we accepting it Because we don’t respect ourselves and yet we expect respect elsewhere
@@busanimthati8201 not sure how the chines has done atrocities to us as done by the colonisation movement. China has been helping developing and all we know from the west and it’s allies is bullying, force and or sanctions because we want to be who we are or do things our way. China is not a saint in this as few of their people been beating and exploiting our African people; so that needs to be addressed and starts with political changes which allows for such things and or businesses of such nature to grow and thrive at the expense of all our people.
@@libconnectafrica I am Gona start by asking you how many countries in Africa did China already taken their ports? Do u know the answer to that?? It’s called debt trap How many countries have been given money by China to finance a project that they themselves know won’t make money to pay them back and u know what they do next if a country cannot afford to pay?? Confiscate the Land No one says west haven’t done anything wrong u missing the whole point We hate west so much that even if anyone is repeating the same thing that u claiming west done to us it’s ok as long as it’s not west again 😂 😂 What I was saying is why we going down that road again but with yellow people now instead?? We should be wiser enough but clearly we have not learned from our mistakes Chenese want oil to be sold using their currency but China doesn’t even have oil Why?? That’s just the tip of the iceberg I dont think u even know what’s going on When we were going through this with west our eyes were closed we didn’t see it coming but it looks like we went from our eyes closing into falling asleep 💤
I don’t think this man is explaining himself clearly. All we want in Africa is the west to leave us alone, don’t send your CIA, don’t try to destabilize our governments. Just let us be. Things such as Covid etc is not the west’s responsibility, if they want to help they do, if not they don’t. We have a lot to figure out by ourselves.
Start with the embassy. Kindly tell them to get the fak out, plesse. Thanks but please go away. You can come and work and pay taxes but you will be monitored 24/7. U dig?
Bro you can't beg a bully to leave you alone unless you punch him in the face then he will leave you alone same thing applies to all the vultures stealing our resources then telling us we are poor.
You're very quick to represent all of Africa... Wherever I come in Africa, people ask for better infrastructure and wish foreign investors would come and pay for it. You seem to have no problems at all with the Chinese currently investing in infrastructure while claiming mines, logging concessions and other natural resources.
@@l.d.t.6327 we do corrupt politicians are making millions while their citizens are starving no difference between Chinese or western countries they are both their to steal our natural resources for peanuts .
The most consequential conflict today is in Europe. EU cannot defend or negotiate peace for Ukraine at all because USA has a different view. Yet every conflict in Africa has one or more European colonial powers behind it. Despite this truth Tim has the audacity to project moral high ground over Africa and Mo Ibrahim.
@@MohamedHassan-ui1cq Most of you Sudanese re Arabized culturally and genetically, beside Arab culture, what is your true identity, you dont know, You have Arab names, practice Arab culture and Arab religion
@@ibrahimjoel6080 You forget that Sudan was a colony of Britain. The British made it very easy to move among the colonies and to the UK since the natives provided cheap labour and bodies for their armies. Mo was born in Sudan, went to school in Egypt, worked a bit in Sudan then went for his masters in the UK and got employed there. Mo's heart is in Africa and that is how he founded Celtel. The British will give you citizenship if you are a billionaire. Ask the Russian oligarchs.
@@afrowave I don't understand the point of your comment, because it doesn't contrast what I said earlier. Anyone can become a British citizen, you don't have to be a billionaire or come from former British colony, is that not why many are migrating there via the student route.
This wicked journalist knows its people that looks like him that is the hidden hand behind this conflict and military guns dumped in Africa to cause chaso.
No, he is NOT. He is treasonous individual and he is behind the chaos in the country.. The people of Sudan 🇸🇩 and their armed forces are United to wipe out the janjaweed militia.
Except the Ukrainians, they have to be recolonized by Russia apparently. Here's a thought: maybe we work to apply the highest standard to everyone, america and russia, one and all; instead of the lowest standard and let everyone start acting like the Americans.
Have you considered the interviewer plays a role in the interview? By posing harsh and biased questions they allow a knowledgeable interviewee to demolish those arguments. Or maybe I'm wrong and the interviewer actually believes that :D
Actually, we stand a better chance if we major decisions as a singular unit or at least as regions than as single countries. Remember how our countries were divided for the same reason that we cannot return opposing power.
@@vervetech9395 Yes. I know that. But we don't have control over what Western media say or do. All we have is a weak continent that needs unity. We should eliminate this victim mentality and get triggered by what the Western media say. The best we can do is learn to tell our own story.
@@vervetech9395 African's media does the opposite I think that recent developments in Tunisia showed that North African Arabs don't want to have anything to do with the tribes that live south of them
That's how we are seen ,by size and economy ,we are lilliputian states ,the more reason we have to come together. Remember we didn't create our countries ,they did.
A very candid and honest discussion. The west should know that Africa is not the dark continent they were told. We are capable of discerning and make informed conclusions
Thank you so much Mo for this great interview highlighting the double standards of the West. I remember during COVID19 our government in Uga da could not access Vaccines with Cash payment. Efforts to share vaccine intellectual property was declined by the west because the OAU tried to get them manufactured within the continent. You always inspire me. 🎉
It is about time to highlight your double standards as well. You want companies to share with you intellectual property, which someone had to work their butt off to develop those vaccines, yet you don't share natural resources that just happened to drop inside your borders. There are a bunch of countries in the middle east and Africa whose economies rely on exporting natural resources like oil and gas. We're paying them for something they didn't make, yet you think you have the right to demand something someone had to work very hard for. The northern economies make a living out of innovation, and you do not have the right to take the fruits of their work away from them, because that is all they have left. And if you do so, there is no point in doing research if they're not going to benefit from it. If they benefit from it the exact same way as you do, then there is no point in working if they can just ask others to give a part of their own.
What double standards exactly? This is what is happening in Uganda: "Bill retains harshest measures of legislation adopted in March, including death penalty for certain same-sex acts.", why would west wish to rush to help such backwards nations that don't seem to share our values and don't even have basic human rights?
If you refuse to stand up for what is fair and just because of what the US has done, then you are being held hostage by the US. You should have the strength to stand up for Ukraine regardless of the USA *or* Russia because it is the fair and just thing for anyone to do.
Europe should stay out and stop dragging affica onto Ukraine war. Africa has enouth issues and doesn't need more piled on. At the same time Europe should stay out of Sudan and leave it to the Arabs & Africans as Europe has a bad history interfering in Africa
Should Europe and US continue providing food aid to prevent a famine which at this point may be unavoidable due to collapse of fertilizer supplies and food exports.
@@MikeRyzhikov It was just as recently as 2011 that NATO unilaterally destroyed Libya despite African union opposition to it up to this date a once prosperous Libya has never recovered and it is vastly a failed state, the voices of African did not matter to the collective west then why should Africa now support the west when things are going against their interests..??
Mo is a lovely, genuine and down to earth kind of man. He’s love and intelligence really shows from his patience to answer the questions properly and including the context which the interviewer seems to lack. His eyes popping out and his posture being all bent almost hilariously reveals his lack of straightness. But I am glad he is put in his place in a so gentle and soft manner. A lovely man of Africa!
“They are playing with words” regarding South Africa’s statement about arms shipment. And the EU is playing with words as well, they are using India and Azerbaijan as middlemen and refiners for Russian oil so they can say they “aren’t depending on Russian oil” anymore.
Sanctions have to be designed in a way so that they hurt the other guy but not yourself. So having the Russians sell their oil for like half the market price and then by it from third countries makes perfect sense. The Russians got a hole in the budget while we still have our oil.
This is how many in the Middle East feel too and it's a fair point. There are countless times the past 50 years US has plain ignored sovereignty and either meddled with or invaded a country.
After Britain has delivered long-range cruise missiles to Ukraine. 😂U$A : “These are sovereign decisions. Every country gets to make these decisions for themselves and should be allowed to speak to those decisions,” Kirby said during a press briefing.
Both parties did great. We Africans have a lot to do and no one will respect us unless we start respecting ourselves and voting/supporting leaders of character and competence.
23:26 The interviewer keeps trying to get him to agree that the west is doing more and engaging more when he says clearly they have not been engaging and the words of the west have not matched their actions.
@@CausticLemons7 I understand his lack of neutrality. I don't understand his extreme self righteousness. That's the problem. Not that he isn't neutral, but that he comes of like a self-righteous prig!
@@shannonbrown5913 The so called western World that likes to police and bully the world... America, Europe, Canada, Australia all happen to be of European blood so all of this maintaining Western World economical intrests... Is just a severe case of white man's rascism ;-)
Precisely, his comment about pay back for Europe colonial past is below the belt. Europe horrific colonialism in Africa is unforgettable. Its ripple and remnant effects on the People they colonized is still evident today.
@@kassimsaeed789 Absolutely, what Europe has done to Africa is so many levels above "not condemning a war". Besides, Ukraine along with most of Europe had nothing to do with colonialism, African slavery and the exploitation resources, its like 7 countries in Europe who was involved. So not only would you take vengeance on the grandchildren of the people committing the crimes in Africa, you would exact vengeance on a country who's only crime is getting help from countries that did bad stuff to Africans 1-2 centuries ago.
@@1112viggo To be honest, Africans are just finding a reason to support Russia without saying they support Russia. Africans were helped by Soviets in the fight for its liberation and this is the only way Africans are returning the favour.
Pay back? The violence has nothing to do with Africans. It's white on white violence - occasioned by senile old man that can't move past their prejudices. You don't need Africa to end this, those responsible must sit down and talk. If they do not, they can't guarantee how it ends.
Mo, you are a great son of Africa. May our angels travel with you and enrich your understanding to make African issues known better. Sudan deserves a president like you
Tim Sebastion ? He's a poor excuse of a Journalist. Spent years reporting around the world and never once challenged the powerful or the elite in his time there. But still can't figure out why there is so much chaos in a continent strip-mined from all of its resources and owned by foreign nationals, has its boarders drawn by Europeans, and has its economic policies dictated by IMF. He's not a Journalist, he's a press secretary.
selective line of questioning with bias,Mo is a smart leader.we need more Africans like him to answer bias questions not stooges like the Ghana president Nana Addo
I like this interview a lot. Both gentlemen are mature and makes sense when questioning and answering. A good host. A good guest. Was just like refreshing to listen to even when the topics are heavy. ❤
If you refuse to stand up for what is fair and just because of what the US has done, then you are being held hostage by the US. You should have the strength to stand up for Ukraine regardless of the USA *or* Russia because it is the fair and just thing for anyone to do.
When it's in Ukraine then it's innocent people dieing. When it comes to Africans then it's understandable even when it's the west providing arms and supporting the chaos. In Haiti,its the US providing weapons and supporting the gangs,but no one is saying innocent people are dieing in Haiti.
US supporting gangs LOOOOL every bad thing ever - US does it LMFAO hey Haiti is free no white men on the island what is the problem why can't you run a normal functioning country ???
So why are you so interested in us if we are so bad??? You have a lot of people which means you have a lot of energy. Organize yourselves better, learn to use it, stop blaming us for all your problems. We cannot do everything for you as we have our own problems and people in need. "Support" should mean "support"... Also, it is hard to cooperate with someone who you try to give a hand to and they immediately shout around that you want to hit them.
@@eternal_ecstasy_77 Calm down Slavic-Karen. The West's problems will never be Africa's problems. Just like how the West doesn't care for African issues.
India won't be anybody's proxy in a war. India knows who's it's trusted partners are and what's in their best interest. India keeps the US and the west at an arms length , they're well aware of their imperialistic and hegemonic agendas.
African's media does the opposite I think that recent developments in Tunisia showed that North African Arabs don't want to have anything to do with the tribes that live south of them
There's an African country Western Sahara invaded by its neighbor Morocco in 1975. No effort has ever been made to bring Morocco to account. What is so special about Ukraine. Injustice somewhere is injustice everywhere.
Absolutely true and honest answer by Mr Ibrahim. 👍 Europeans always start criminal wars because of money and power and then are very surprised why others don't like them 🤦♂️
Its always fascinating the posture of western journalists, whenever a pushback question on the behaviour of the west comes, all of a sudden they are not as critical, any flimsy justification is just thrust forth. No real self critical honesty
Its always fascinating the posture of African journalists, whenever a push-back question on the behavior of the Africa comes, all of a sudden they are not as critical, any flimsy justification is just thrust forth. No real self critical honesty, all is white men fault
No different than a lot of the pushback against the west really. They talk about bad actions taken by the west, but once it's about them they aren't as critical, and simply use the west's hypocrisy as the flimsy justification.
Troops from ECOWAS entered The Gambia in January 2017 following long-time Gambian President Yahya Jammeh's refusal to step down after his loss in the 2016 presidential election to Adama Barrow. This ultimately ended the 2016-17 Gambian constitutional crisis. African multinational troops should be deployed to Sudan to address this crisis. Why can't the combined troops of Egypt,Chad Republic,Ethiopia,Uganda,South Africa, and other African Eastern countries stand up strongly via military intervention and political sanctions. We need to start to solve African problems with African solutions without external intervention. The ECOWAS handled the 2016-17 Gambian constitutional crisis very quickly and politically. The United States and Europe should face the 🇺🇦 Ukraine and Russia 🇷🇺 crisis...Leave African countries alone. Mo Ibrahim thanks for telling them the truth 😅 The Americans should mind their own business. Very educative interview ❤❤
You must have missed the part of the interview when Mo insisted that the West should intervene in Sudan, both militarily and financially One more thing KEEP your people in Africa, we DON'T want them and don't need them here in EU
26 minute interview on Africa and the headline is about Ukraine ? why can't Africa has its own voice and identity ? Why the West wants everyone tied to their own agendas ?
Who's agendas should west be trying to tie other nations to? Indians ? Arabs ? Get a grip LOOOOL Why is this Mo guy insisting that Sudan is somehow West problem and that they should intervene financially and militarily to solve it ????
The reporter tried his best to portray Africa in bad faith but Mo silenced him. 1. Africa incompetence in dealing with Sudan issue. How is the West dealing with Ukraine? They are fueling it. 2. Africa being neutral on Ukraine Russia war. Well how does taking sides solve the problem? 3. South Africa weapons to Russia. Well, Israel has enjoyed financial, political, Media, technological and Military support in crashing Palestine. The US had given more money to Ukraine this year so far then it has supported Africa the whole of last year. When China comes to help wake up Africa they attack them as debt trap colonialists. What has the donation money from World Bank, the US or any Western nation helped Africa compared to China? The reporter is a true representation of the Western hypocrisy.
what you talking about? he is obviously OLD and has lost his game. you want him to simply throw a few questions here and there? that's a "regular" interview aka pointless. these "leaders" need to be CONFRONTED
@@ace8184 If you don't want to listen you shouldn't be asking questions. Your idea of interrogating can be done in courts, not intervieuws. Because unlike in courts you need people to agree on participating in intervieuws.
Entirely misses the point. Africa is exactly what multinational corporations want it to be: extremely profitable, and deprived of any chance of being an economic threat to the West. Exactly what the CIA has engineered it to be for the past 50-70 years, a mere continuation of the formal imperialism that preceded it; but more pervasive and endemic and systemic than that, because the average Westerner and the average capitalist alike will both willfully ignore American jingoism and pretend that Africa is what it is solely as a consequence of it's own ineptitude, rather than capitalist neocolonialism.
India should be in the same situation after British colonial rule but it managed to form a democracy. Every time we attempt to insert ourselves into Africa, fix past mistakes, it repeatedly backfires. What do you propose former colonial powers do to stabilize the African continent? Repeat a Somalia-like initiative to stop a civil war turned genocide using military force, support local government? We supported and trained special operatives in multiple African countries and it backfired several times.
@@JackTenrec-qk4zp it definitely is that powerful. If you we’re underestimating that institution you should give him the respect they deserve. They have a hand in coup d’etat and other shady stuff that happen on the continent. As much, we blame terrible governance they do sometimes play apart in making sure we never have proper governance. That would not benefit them. And frankly, the must be people above CIA who are using it as tool too. At the root of the issue, it’s always a group of few individuals.
Mo has common sense and truly honest. Especially when it comes to western hypocrisy. The media should be ashamed for not answering his questions. That's why he so often said: "let's be honest here!" and "Stay in reality!"
Well even thought Russia did help!!It did help the all Africa continent but certain countries yes!!! I'm all for Rússia to your info.. Ps:África is a continent not a country,just wat it to clarify that!!🫶🏽
US trained officers (CIA) have attempted coups in 5 West African Countries alone:3 times in Burkina Faso, 3 times in Mali, and once each in Guinea, Mauritania, and Gambia.
You talk about a dozen apparent interventions. Have you bothered to count the amount of conflicts in Africa as a total? Stop blaming someone else. Stop being a victim. Start looking at yourself in the mirror and fix your governance for the poorest sake.
@Ugwuanyi Collins I'm not saying it didn't (nor can you say it did because you and I can only say what we've been told). You're making my point for me... You're getting stuck on something where you can blame someone else. Stop that and start doing something to get rid of the rotten leadership most of Africa saddled itself with.
18:49 Excellent points on why Africa and the Global South have been guarded in their response to Ukraine and resistant to support one side or the other. Tim just fails to see any hypocrisy in western actions as a reasons for not supporting Ukraine. Get a clue and let go of some of that self-righteousness, Tim.
Please explain this to me because it sounded like he says that African countries were hesitant to condemn russian aggression on Ukraine because America attacked Iraq. I'm Eastern European, I live with russia around the corner and I know history of my nation that had to protect itself against russia for centuries. Why Africans are talking about USA when russia is killing us, Eastern Europeans? Why we have to pay with lives for wrongdoing of USA? Why so many people act and talk as if USA is the most important country in the world and they will pretend that no big deal is happening in spite of USA? Frankly it's really painful to watch Africans and Indians normal people cheering up russian murders and rapes and kidnaping of children.
I dare this journalist to go to every EU leader and ask them if US takes a U turn on the Ukraine crisis and decides to support Russia , will they support Ukraine then ? A summary of EUs spine.. PERIOD..
What an insult to equate the geopolitical struggles in Ukraine between America and Russia with the atrocities committed against the continent of Africa. And categorizing it as a pay back for not supporting America geopolitical gamble in Ukraine, is a dishonest analogy. In essence, diminishing one of the world worst greatest inhumanity events ever carried out by mankind. The reckless disregard for human dignity and the scramble for Africa, motivated by free resources and dominance. Greatly buffered coming from a man who I profoundly admired for his hard talk program in the BBC. But relatively sad by his not questioning the underlying issues that led to the war in Ukraine, and for not advocating peaceful solutions to the conflict. Which is a silent taboo and against freedom of expression. An important tenet in the democratic principles.
The whole interview the western guy tries to belittle opinion the African guy has, not with facts just mentoring the "right thinking". Yet kudos to the African guy, today the intelligence has beaten the ignorance!
The interviewer did a good job, his line of questioning is reflective of how western governments build narratives. Mo Ibrahim was good at giving precise and strong amswers
Does US hypocrisy explain African neutrality on Ukraine? - YES. Does European hypocrisy explain African neutrality on Ukraine? - YES, YES, YES, YES. There, I spoiled the video for you.
no wonder the whole world is against them... and why do they want to put the dollar out of use... learned by force, pressure, wars, blackmail to print dollars without cover and bring them in bags to the opposition in countries that are not servants of the USA, and then to provoke fratricidal wars.... that's why they live well in the west, and their good life costs millions and millions of lives in most of the world but for them it is not important how many millions will suffer and how many billions live in poverty in order for the west to have luxury...
Remember the Soviets and North Koreans played a huge role in the independence struggles of many African countries, then they also built a few industries, built infrastructure and helped with trade because the old colonial powers were not very helpful.
Why do journalists always use like,”we are running out of times”!!whenever someone points out about what’s wrong or the truth!!😂😂😂
That's so called free press technique.
It's also used a lot when mentioning israel's crimes.
The journalistic profession isn't what it used to be. It has been an elitist profession but it has become the most dishonest profession of all aside from the professions of politicians and lawyers. Even the anti-establishment journalists tend to lie and to be very biased because they themselves don't care for the truth anymore. Truth has been cast away from the profession. It's all about stories and making money.
It makes them squirm. I don't understand why. They aren't responsible but it seems like they want cover up the sins of their ancestors which are many. I noticed how the media has plenty of time to cover BS topics such as what kind of dress Kate Middleton was wearing or about Kim Kardashian. It's ridiculous and those of us with a brain get it. It's all orchestrated to distract from the cold hard realities set forth.
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South African here. Mo is SOLID and he actually cares about African issues. The Interviewer Tim holds Eurocentric views, he also failed to answer all the questions thrown back at him about the hypocrisy of the Global North. Mo has represented us well.
so true bafo
Mo has Africacentric views, Tim Eurocentric, thats a given fact. It also affects how Mo is wrong about some things that has happened in EU, for example of course EU will take care of EU people first, just like African would take care of African first. Also Greece financial crisis wasn't immidiately sorted out, many EU countries had to give financial aid to Greece, and multiple times and it took years, think my country gave Greece financial aid 2 times, the money didn't just pop into existence. Greece got also quite a bit criticism from this and they also had huge internal crisis because of this. Thankfully Greece sorted this out with the aid as far as I am aware.
But again Greece is in EU and its part of EU internal politics, African continent is part of EU foreign politics. It's same as if say Ethiopia is in financial crisis and rest of African Union came to its aid.
Mo cares more about you, than your own ANC government. Instead of emancipating yourself you keep falling for the cheap drivel of everything is the fault of the west. Your people keep selling their vote for a t-shirt and a bucket of fried chicken to a bunch of corrupt crooks who will sell the whole country until there is nothing of value left. Do you honestly think the Chinese or Russians make better partners to you?😂 I love your country and wish you the very best!
There is more distastes and rotten geo-politicals perspectives about the westerns world, their euro-centrics, their medias and governance. All their nuance is hidden under capitalism and entitlement to dominate , colonised (in many disguises), and hawkish interventions.
The political adage for Africans to debunk the socio philosophy of euro-centric minds. Africa would requires a revolution to remove the illegitimacy of euro centrism, and begin a new dawn of African perspectives.
@@Jahvec Yet many EU countries have continuously purchased Russian gas through India, blatant double dealing while claiming to support Ukraine. You also didn't address Bobby's point on european hypocrisy - sure they may be looking out for their own interests (duh) but why is the onus on condemning Russia solely on Africans?
The idea of US applying there "rules" to themselves is great. But US never could manage to do this intellectual exercise. Rules are for others - Russians, Africans, Chinese. Rules are for slaves, not for the master.
So Russia should be allowed to invade Ukraine because the rules are unfair by African standards?
"Russians, Africans, Chinese.."
Did you know African is a geographical term and not an ethnic or "rav ial" category or nationality. Africa is a continent, not a village.
@MariaNI-yf1bz What he said is correct. Show me the African country that the USA is treating as equals? I will add to his list, Arabs.
Biden said he will make Saudi a pariah state. This comming from a guy that voted in favor of the war in Iraq when he was a Senator, now he wants to preach to others. I don't see anybody in the USA or the West confronting him about his obvious hypocricy. How can the Democrats even allow such a guy to run for president? When are the USA going to show us the weapons of mass destruction or pay reparations for the killing of Iraqis and destruction of their country? Will the West ever have that conversation? Was there any discussion of possibly charging Bush and Blair with War Crimes?
The worst is when gas prices exploded in Bidens USA thanks to his anti energy stance he ran back to Saudi begging the very nation he threatened. The arrogance of Biden and the USA is beyond believe or comprehension.
During Covid-19, Biden put a travel ban on the Southern African region because South Africa identified Omicron. The whole world followed his lead. Two weeks later the UK had ten times the daily infections of Omicron that Southern Africa states had. Guess what, no travel ban was placed on the white UK but Biden kept the travel ban on Southern African nations.
Russians, Chinese , Africans and Arabs are not treated the same as others by the US. I am I white man living in Africa I know exactly how the US treats Africans.
@@MariaNI-yf1bz They are just generalizing, of course if you want he could certainly name every single country in the countinent if you so wish.
@@MariaNI-yf1bz doesn't matter
Wow, Mo Ibrahim told it as it is, nothing but the truth. This man should be Sudan's next President!!
I like the optimistic part of his speech, Africa will find a way and we shall overcome!
It was just as recently as 2011 that NATO unilaterally destroyed Libya despite African union opposition to it up to this date a once prosperous Libya has never recovered and it is vastly a failed state, the voices of African did not matter to the collective west then why should Africa now support the west when things are going against their interests..??
In Feb. AU started a new initiative in Tripolis. Let's see, if they are able to help Libya.
@@juliarichter6987 Which one? The official Tripolis government backed by Turkey or the counter government lead by general Haftar and backed by Russians and Wagner?
@@Vatnik_tschistilka The one that is backed by the people ... wait 🤔
@@juliarichter6987 So the one backed by the Russians then
Mo is completely and utterly right in his reasoning.
The journalist tried his hardest to spin the issue, to play with words and push false narratives (this is what they're paid to do, they're professional liars) and Mo completely shut him down lol
The same journalist was the one interviewed Gadafi before a public assassination. Smoking gun...
He’s sugondese
@@ihmpall what?
Actually Sebastian seemed to me like he liked him quite a bit
@@widaa911 An outspoken African who wouldn't bow to him?
Probably not.
Great interview from the Elders. Africans are not slaves and won't be taking a backseat to anything. We want to be respected and just treated the same. We can't just play nice and others treat us like slaves.
I agree with you. But before we get respected by others, we need to respect ourselves first. If we can do that for ourselves, we should not expect any other people to respect us
@@kassimsaeed789 I agree and I can say we have been trying but sabotage elements are used to created divisions within our communities.
Be it race or ethnicity etc. so until we al wake up to the agenda then we just in the system of distraction and this systems are affecting all people in their communities.
Waking up to tyranny is important for world peace.
Then if that’s what we want we need to stop taking Chenese money
Thought we learned from west
But now Chenese are doing the same to us and we accepting it
Because we don’t respect ourselves and yet we expect respect elsewhere
@@busanimthati8201 not sure how the chines has done atrocities to us as done by the colonisation movement.
China has been helping developing and all we know from the west and it’s allies is bullying, force and or sanctions because we want to be who we are or do things our way.
China is not a saint in this as few of their people been beating and exploiting our African people; so that needs to be addressed and starts with political changes which allows for such things and or businesses of such nature to grow and thrive at the expense of all our people.
@@libconnectafrica I am Gona start by asking you how many countries in Africa did China already taken their ports? Do u know the answer to that??
It’s called debt trap
How many countries have been given money by China to finance a project that they themselves know won’t make money to pay them back and u know what they do next if a country cannot afford to pay??
Confiscate the Land
No one says west haven’t done anything wrong u missing the whole point
We hate west so much that even if anyone is repeating the same thing that u claiming west done to us it’s ok as long as it’s not west again 😂 😂
What I was saying is why we going down that road again but with yellow people now instead??
We should be wiser enough but clearly we have not learned from our mistakes
Chenese want oil to be sold using their currency but China doesn’t even have oil
Why??
That’s just the tip of the iceberg I dont think u even know what’s going on
When we were going through this with west our eyes were closed we didn’t see it coming but it looks like we went from our eyes closing into falling asleep 💤
I don’t think this man is explaining himself clearly. All we want in Africa is the west to leave us alone, don’t send your CIA, don’t try to destabilize our governments. Just let us be. Things such as Covid etc is not the west’s responsibility, if they want to help they do, if not they don’t. We have a lot to figure out by ourselves.
A global pandemic is a global responsibility. That's why WHO exists. Nonetheless, Africa must build its own scientific capacity.
Start with the embassy. Kindly tell them to get the fak out, plesse. Thanks but please go away. You can come and work and pay taxes but you will be monitored 24/7. U dig?
Bro you can't beg a bully to leave you alone unless you punch him in the face then he will leave you alone same thing applies to all the vultures stealing our resources then telling us we are poor.
You're very quick to represent all of Africa... Wherever I come in Africa, people ask for better infrastructure and wish foreign investors would come and pay for it. You seem to have no problems at all with the Chinese currently investing in infrastructure while claiming mines, logging concessions and other natural resources.
@@l.d.t.6327 we do corrupt politicians are making millions while their citizens are starving no difference between Chinese or western countries they are both their to steal our natural resources for peanuts .
Such poise, intellect and grace. What an intelligent man
The most consequential conflict today is in Europe. EU cannot defend or negotiate peace for Ukraine at all because USA has a different view. Yet every conflict in Africa has one or more European colonial powers behind it. Despite this truth Tim has the audacity to project moral high ground over Africa and Mo Ibrahim.
100% that Tim is delusional.
Why re you so Arabized?
@@Kandatwitter I don't understand the question? What do you mean?
@@MohamedHassan-ui1cq If your name is Mohamed hassan thats a very Arab name, what is your real name? from your tribe
@@MohamedHassan-ui1cq Most of you Sudanese re Arabized culturally and genetically, beside Arab culture, what is your true identity, you dont know, You have Arab names, practice Arab culture and Arab religion
This is a genuine honest man need more men like him in the world and in politics not the crooks
He might appear so charming - believe me he is CROOk.
@@embaderho4807 Please explain.
Mr Mo seems like a true patriot who cares deeply about his continent. Respect from India 🙏
don’t ever believe that. He is just another old puppy who waned attention .
Mo!!! 💪 You can see a hero sitting talking to a Western journalist. Thank you DW. 😃
A hero that is enjoying British citizenship and safety. Lol. He should come back home.
This man is a crook trying to influence world politics
@@ibrahimjoel6080 You forget that Sudan was a colony of Britain. The British made it very easy to move among the colonies and to the UK since the natives provided cheap labour and bodies for their armies. Mo was born in Sudan, went to school in Egypt, worked a bit in Sudan then went for his masters in the UK and got employed there. Mo's heart is in Africa and that is how he founded Celtel. The British will give you citizenship if you are a billionaire. Ask the Russian oligarchs.
@@afrowave I don't understand the point of your comment, because it doesn't contrast what I said earlier. Anyone can become a British citizen, you don't have to be a billionaire or come from former British colony, is that not why many are migrating there via the student route.
This wicked journalist knows its people that looks like him that is the hidden hand behind this conflict and military guns dumped in Africa to cause chaso.
Mo is very consistent in his arguments and wants everyone to be treated the same.
No, he is NOT. He is treasonous individual and he is behind the chaos in the country.. The people of Sudan 🇸🇩 and their armed forces are United to wipe out the janjaweed militia.
To be treated as bad as everyone else. Nice
Except the Ukrainians, they have to be recolonized by Russia apparently. Here's a thought: maybe we work to apply the highest standard to everyone, america and russia, one and all; instead of the lowest standard and let everyone start acting like the Americans.
ICC has lost its credibility. It is political and selective.
You are Too Kind with your Sugar Coated criticism 😂
The ICC is pursuing American soldiers for their reported war crimes. Is the court biased because it pursues corrupt African statesmen?
ICC had no credibility in the first place
They are a bunch of corrupted western puppets
Mo handled the bias of this reporter well. Let's be honest about these conversations without the halo effect of the west
Have you considered the interviewer plays a role in the interview? By posing harsh and biased questions they allow a knowledgeable interviewee to demolish those arguments.
Or maybe I'm wrong and the interviewer actually believes that :D
@@Luthieslol yea I see ur point. Let’s hope that’s the case. I don’t think he was being malicious in his approach
@@Luthies you wrong simple
@@Luthies would be understandable if that 'role' was played across the board with all interviewees. Unfortunately its not.
@@brianmath393 No, he was not. There's a chorus of naysayers on this board.
THANK YOU BROTHER MO ❤️❤️💯❤️ TRUTH IS A HEALING MEDICINE
Talking about Africa as if it were a single unit of anything whatsoever is a non-starter for me.
Actually, we stand a better chance if we major decisions as a singular unit or at least as regions than as single countries. Remember how our countries were divided for the same reason that we cannot return opposing power.
@@clem5474Western media put Africa as one single unit when it's something bad but when it's something good they're specific.
@@vervetech9395 Yes. I know that. But we don't have control over what Western media say or do. All we have is a weak continent that needs unity. We should eliminate this victim mentality and get triggered by what the Western media say. The best we can do is learn to tell our own story.
@@vervetech9395 African's media does the opposite
I think that recent developments in Tunisia showed that North African Arabs don't want to have anything to do with the tribes that live south of them
That's how we are seen ,by size and economy ,we are lilliputian states ,the more reason we have to come together.
Remember we didn't create our countries ,they did.
MO is making more than sense we need more of him.
This was great, thank you! So much common sense in one interview, thank you!
I like him. He clearly cares about Africa, democracy, and rule of law: and he knows what those last two things actually mean.
Those 2 things don't exist though in majority of our countries.
Every foreign politic from every country is hyprocrisy.
he doesn't care enough to move in and live there though LOL
democracy and rule of law do not exist anywhere on earth ... the Russian-Ukrainian war shows us that.
@@JackTenrec-qk4zp Hahaha, He's not suicidal. 😂
A very candid and honest discussion. The west should know that Africa is not the dark continent they were told. We are capable of discerning and make informed conclusions
why is africa so broken
@@byroncoetzee3173 who told you that ?
Thank you so much Mo for this great interview highlighting the double standards of the West. I remember during COVID19 our government in Uga da could not access Vaccines with Cash payment. Efforts to share vaccine intellectual property was declined by the west because the OAU tried to get them manufactured within the continent. You always inspire me. 🎉
It is about time to highlight your double standards as well. You want companies to share with you intellectual property, which someone had to work their butt off to develop those vaccines, yet you don't share natural resources that just happened to drop inside your borders. There are a bunch of countries in the middle east and Africa whose economies rely on exporting natural resources like oil and gas. We're paying them for something they didn't make, yet you think you have the right to demand something someone had to work very hard for. The northern economies make a living out of innovation, and you do not have the right to take the fruits of their work away from them, because that is all they have left. And if you do so, there is no point in doing research if they're not going to benefit from it. If they benefit from it the exact same way as you do, then there is no point in working if they can just ask others to give a part of their own.
What double standards exactly? This is what is happening in Uganda: "Bill retains harshest measures of legislation adopted in March, including death penalty for certain same-sex acts.", why would west wish to rush to help such backwards nations that don't seem to share our values and don't even have basic human rights?
If you refuse to stand up for what is fair and just because of what the US has done, then you are being held hostage by the US. You should have the strength to stand up for Ukraine regardless of the USA *or* Russia because it is the fair and just thing for anyone to do.
Africans did not need that poison vaccine
Make your own then.
Who's stopping you?
This is the best interview I’ve watched on an African statesman. So profound, enlightened, simple analysis and heartwarming. True wisdom
Africa should NEVER condemn Russia until the Western countries condemn America for its War crimes vs Libya, Iraq and Afghanistan
Europe should stay out and stop dragging affica onto Ukraine war. Africa has enouth issues and doesn't need more piled on. At the same time Europe should stay out of Sudan and leave it to the Arabs & Africans as Europe has a bad history interfering in Africa
Should Europe and US continue providing food aid to prevent a famine which at this point may be unavoidable due to collapse of fertilizer supplies and food exports.
@@MikeRyzhikov YES
@@MikeRyzhikov The system of Africa been dependent on EU should stop
@@MikeRyzhikov NO
@@MikeRyzhikov It was just as recently as 2011 that NATO unilaterally destroyed Libya despite African union opposition to it up to this date a once prosperous Libya has never recovered and it is vastly a failed state, the voices of African did not matter to the collective west then why should Africa now support the west when things are going against their interests..??
Love to Africa and its many beautiful people from Iran.
Ibrahim Mo is honest and brave. Yes, it's enough with double standards.
Mo is a lovely, genuine and down to earth kind of man. He’s love and intelligence really shows from his patience to answer the questions properly and including the context which the interviewer seems to lack. His eyes popping out and his posture being all bent almost hilariously reveals his lack of straightness. But I am glad he is put in his place in a so gentle and soft manner. A lovely man of Africa!
This is a very good interview.
A good interview to expose how hypocracy the west and their juornalists are. 😂
@@walhdamaskus2408 How?
@@bramposthumus9300 , how much bbc had paid u to ask how?
DAD MO IBRAHIM thanks you so very much , tell those hypocrite practices what you preach and stopped passing injustices. Justice before peace to all.
When you get an African who is well-informed, the labelling is fought back with intellect.
“They are playing with words” regarding South Africa’s statement about arms shipment. And the EU is playing with words as well, they are using India and Azerbaijan as middlemen and refiners for Russian oil so they can say they “aren’t depending on Russian oil” anymore.
Sanctions have to be designed in a way so that they hurt the other guy but not yourself. So having the Russians sell their oil for like half the market price and then by it from third countries makes perfect sense. The Russians got a hole in the budget while we still have our oil.
This is how many in the Middle East feel too and it's a fair point. There are countless times the past 50 years US has plain ignored sovereignty and either meddled with or invaded a country.
Mo Ibrahim.... a Good Man.
After Britain has delivered long-range cruise missiles to Ukraine.
😂U$A : “These are sovereign decisions. Every country gets to make these decisions for themselves and should be allowed to speak to those decisions,” Kirby said during a press briefing.
Don’t forget the weapons with depleted uranium, to make sure their babies will born with several heads and solders will diе ahead of the scheduled
United States of Doublestand America😆
Very honest man. We need more of such men.
Both parties did great. We Africans have a lot to do and no one will respect us unless we start respecting ourselves and voting/supporting leaders of character and competence.
The interviewer is jarring … self-righteous, condescending and superiour. Mo Ibrahim is clear and compelling. 🇸🇴
What did the EU do when the US bombed Afghanistan and Iraq?
23:26 The interviewer keeps trying to get him to agree that the west is doing more and engaging more when he says clearly they have not been engaging and the words of the west have not matched their actions.
Sabastian is never impartial, very BBC.
@@peteram9527 I am just starting to realize that.
@@peteram9527 So you watch a program literally called "Conflict Zone" but don't understand why neutrality isn't the main objective?
@@CausticLemons7 I understand his lack of neutrality. I don't understand his extreme self righteousness. That's the problem. Not that he isn't neutral, but that he comes of like a self-righteous prig!
@@shannonbrown5913 The so called western World that likes to police and bully the world... America, Europe, Canada, Australia all happen to be of European blood so all of this maintaining Western World economical intrests... Is just a severe case of white man's rascism ;-)
"Is not condemning Moscow's war payback?" If it is, its the weakest payback in the history of vengeance.
Precisely, his comment about pay back for Europe colonial past is below the belt. Europe horrific colonialism in Africa is unforgettable. Its ripple and remnant effects on the People they colonized is still evident today.
@@kassimsaeed789 Absolutely, what Europe has done to Africa is so many levels above "not condemning a war". Besides, Ukraine along with most of Europe had nothing to do with colonialism, African slavery and the exploitation resources, its like 7 countries in Europe who was involved.
So not only would you take vengeance on the grandchildren of the people committing the crimes in Africa, you would exact vengeance on a country who's only crime is getting help from countries that did bad stuff to Africans 1-2 centuries ago.
@@1112viggo To be honest, Africans are just finding a reason to support Russia without saying they support Russia. Africans were helped by Soviets in the fight for its liberation and this is the only way Africans are returning the favour.
Pay back? The violence has nothing to do with Africans. It's white on white violence - occasioned by senile old man that can't move past their prejudices. You don't need Africa to end this, those responsible must sit down and talk. If they do not, they can't guarantee how it ends.
It's not pay back, it is calling the hypocrites to attention.
I always love Mo. So glad he's doing this for all Sudanese.
Africa has its own problems to fix, instead of worrying about a war, in some god-forsaken part of Europe.
Exactly they've been slaughtering eachother on the European plains for millenia no wonder its some of the most fertile soil in the world
Right On!
Agree just like we got problems and should tell african union to deal with africa
Yeah that god forsaken place where grains and cereals come from, all to feed your skinny starving masses.
@@nenasiek see now you get it
Mo, you are a great son of Africa. May our angels travel with you and enrich your understanding to make African issues known better. Sudan deserves a president like you
Another excellent interview by Tim! He's the best. 💙
Tim Sebastion ? He's a poor excuse of a Journalist. Spent years reporting around the world and never once challenged the powerful or the elite in his time there. But still can't figure out why there is so much chaos in a continent strip-mined from all of its resources and owned by foreign nationals, has its boarders drawn by Europeans, and has its economic policies dictated by IMF. He's not a Journalist, he's a press secretary.
Mo is doing a fabulous job championing africa to solve its own issues
selective line of questioning with bias,Mo is a smart leader.we need more Africans like him to answer bias questions not stooges like the Ghana president Nana Addo
Very Smart Person. He spoke for all of us!
A great philosophy, educated and entrepreneur person with familiarity western economic behaviours and dominated ideology
I like this interview a lot. Both gentlemen are mature and makes sense when questioning and answering. A good host. A good guest. Was just like refreshing to listen to even when the topics are heavy. ❤
If you refuse to stand up for what is fair and just because of what the US has done, then you are being held hostage by the US. You should have the strength to stand up for Ukraine regardless of the USA *or* Russia because it is the fair and just thing for anyone to do.
The white man is a racist little man
Indeed.
When it's in Ukraine then it's innocent people dieing. When it comes to Africans then it's understandable even when it's the west providing arms and supporting the chaos. In Haiti,its the US providing weapons and supporting the gangs,but no one is saying innocent people are dieing in Haiti.
Africans are not people … people unite !
US supporting gangs LOOOOL every bad thing ever - US does it LMFAO
hey Haiti is free no white men on the island what is the problem why can't you run a normal functioning country ???
We are supporting the corrupt Haitian government, that we have 'installed'.
Proud of Mo; and
Shame on the journalist.
“A day without hypocrisy is a day wasted”- US and EU
A day without hypocrisy is a day waste - African with 2 dozen children on a welfare in EU
So why are you so interested in us if we are so bad???
You have a lot of people which means you have a lot of energy. Organize yourselves better, learn to use it, stop blaming us for all your problems. We cannot do everything for you as we have our own problems and people in need. "Support" should mean "support"... Also, it is hard to cooperate with someone who you try to give a hand to and they immediately shout around that you want to hit them.
@@JackTenrec-qk4zp No African says that. It’s Europeans and Americans who see hypocrisy as a fundamental right.
@@eternal_ecstasy_77 Americans and Europeans should stop creating problems for the rest of the world all the while lecturing others.
@@eternal_ecstasy_77 Calm down Slavic-Karen.
The West's problems will never be Africa's problems.
Just like how the West doesn't care for African issues.
Mo Ibrahim, A truly great African. In this interview he speaks truth to power without fear or favour as he questions western hypocrisy.
Yet he doesn't blame India for trading in arms with Russia, because they need India to be their proxy against China,while they stay safe in America.
Sudan and Africa were the topics, India will have to wait for their turn in the hot seat.
It's a game
Well said
India won't be anybody's proxy in a war. India knows who's it's trusted partners are and what's in their best interest. India keeps the US and the west at an arms length , they're well aware of their imperialistic and hegemonic agendas.
Bravo Sir Mo Ibrahim, talking frienkly is what we are ready to stand for it.
Bravo Mo,
Between you, President Ruto, and PLO Lumumba , a path is beginning to emerge of the leaders that really care about Africa.
19:15 Amazing reply, sir, that is a silent slap to that reporter's face. I loved your answer.. 🔥🔥🔥
The interview was getting good at the end. And they shut it down because he was speaking FACTS.!!.
Western media always put Africa as one single unit when it's about something bad but when it's something good they're specific.
African's media does the opposite
I think that recent developments in Tunisia showed that North African Arabs don't want to have anything to do with the tribes that live south of them
There's an African country Western Sahara invaded by its neighbor Morocco in 1975. No effort has ever been made to bring Morocco to account. What is so special about Ukraine. Injustice somewhere is injustice everywhere.
Absolutely true and honest answer by Mr Ibrahim. 👍
Europeans always start criminal wars because of money and power and then are very surprised why others don't like them 🤦♂️
Hypocrite got his answer from Mo.
Its always fascinating the posture of western journalists, whenever a pushback question on the behaviour of the west comes, all of a sudden they are not as critical, any flimsy justification is just thrust forth. No real self critical honesty
Its always fascinating the posture of African journalists, whenever a push-back question on the behavior of the Africa comes, all of a sudden they are not as critical, any flimsy justification is just thrust forth. No real self critical honesty, all is white men fault
No different than a lot of the pushback against the west really. They talk about bad actions taken by the west, but once it's about them they aren't as critical, and simply use the west's hypocrisy as the flimsy justification.
Democracy, maybe?
Troops from ECOWAS entered The Gambia in January 2017 following long-time Gambian President Yahya Jammeh's refusal to step down after his loss in the 2016 presidential election to Adama Barrow. This ultimately ended the 2016-17 Gambian constitutional crisis.
African multinational troops should be deployed to Sudan to address this crisis.
Why can't the combined troops of Egypt,Chad Republic,Ethiopia,Uganda,South Africa, and other African Eastern countries stand up strongly via military intervention and political sanctions. We need to start to solve African problems with African solutions without external intervention. The ECOWAS handled the 2016-17 Gambian constitutional crisis very quickly and politically. The United States and Europe should face the 🇺🇦 Ukraine and Russia 🇷🇺 crisis...Leave African countries alone. Mo Ibrahim thanks for telling them the truth 😅
The Americans should mind their own business. Very educative interview ❤❤
You must have missed the part of the interview when Mo insisted that the West should intervene in Sudan, both militarily and financially
One more thing KEEP your people in Africa, we DON'T want them and don't need them here in EU
US hypocrisy AND European hypocrisy.
Mo Ibrahim you're a gem ! :) in the same vein .... i must confess im ashamed as european :(
He is quite right , it is the hypocrisy. The rules must be the same for every country .
26 minute interview on Africa and the headline is about Ukraine ? why can't Africa has its own voice and identity ? Why the West wants everyone tied to their own agendas ?
Who's agendas should west be trying to tie other nations to? Indians ? Arabs ? Get a grip LOOOOL
Why is this Mo guy insisting that Sudan is somehow West problem and that they should intervene financially and militarily to solve it ????
Lol. The truth hurts!
The reporter tried his best to portray Africa in bad faith but Mo silenced him.
1. Africa incompetence in dealing with Sudan issue. How is the West dealing with Ukraine? They are fueling it.
2. Africa being neutral on Ukraine Russia war. Well how does taking sides solve the problem?
3. South Africa weapons to Russia. Well, Israel has enjoyed financial, political, Media, technological and Military support in crashing Palestine. The US had given more money to Ukraine this year so far then it has supported Africa the whole of last year.
When China comes to help wake up Africa they attack them as debt trap colonialists. What has the donation money from World Bank, the US or any Western nation helped Africa compared to China?
The reporter is a true representation of the Western hypocrisy.
I’m impressed Tim has changed a lot over the years. He listens to his guests and gives them time to finish, and doesn’t interrupt much
what you talking about? he is obviously OLD and has lost his game. you want him to simply throw a few questions here and there? that's a "regular" interview aka pointless. these "leaders" need to be CONFRONTED
@@ace8184 If you don't want to listen you shouldn't be asking questions. Your idea of interrogating can be done in courts, not intervieuws. Because unlike in courts you need people to agree on participating in intervieuws.
@@longbow857 ughhh i said confronted, not interrogated. but interrogated isn't a bad idea either, come to think of it
They are always running out of time when they are told the truth about the behaviour of the global north.
it’s hard enough to get europeans to agree to collective security as a principle. let alone people in other continents. it’s just base selfishness.
Nice to see that Africans, unlike Europeans, aren't hypocrites.
Entirely misses the point. Africa is exactly what multinational corporations want it to be: extremely profitable, and deprived of any chance of being an economic threat to the West. Exactly what the CIA has engineered it to be for the past 50-70 years, a mere continuation of the formal imperialism that preceded it; but more pervasive and endemic and systemic than that, because the average Westerner and the average capitalist alike will both willfully ignore American jingoism and pretend that Africa is what it is solely as a consequence of it's own ineptitude, rather than capitalist neocolonialism.
haha had no idea that the CIA is so powerful, they are still calling the shots in Africa ?
India should be in the same situation after British colonial rule but it managed to form a democracy. Every time we attempt to insert ourselves into Africa, fix past mistakes, it repeatedly backfires. What do you propose former colonial powers do to stabilize the African continent? Repeat a Somalia-like initiative to stop a civil war turned genocide using military force, support local government? We supported and trained special operatives in multiple African countries and it backfired several times.
@@JackTenrec-qk4zp Yes it's that powerful
@@JackTenrec-qk4zp it definitely is that powerful. If you we’re underestimating that institution you should give him the respect they deserve.
They have a hand in coup d’etat and other shady stuff that happen on the continent. As much, we blame terrible governance they do sometimes play apart in making sure we never have proper governance. That would not benefit them.
And frankly, the must be people above CIA who are using it as tool too. At the root of the issue, it’s always a group of few individuals.
@@JackTenrec-qk4zp How are you not aware of that and you live in this world?
Mo has common sense and truly honest. Especially when it comes to western hypocrisy. The media should be ashamed for not answering his questions. That's why he so often said: "let's be honest here!" and "Stay in reality!"
I think Africa supposed to go to help Russia openly.. because Russia helped very much Africa, during liberation of Africa
Well even thought Russia did help!!It did help the all Africa continent but certain countries yes!!! I'm all for Rússia to your info..
Ps:África is a continent not a country,just wat it to clarify that!!🫶🏽
Mo is a true patriot and may Allah continue to bless him and his positive efforts
Fantastic interview 💪
Good for Mo.
An army is primarily created to protect the people. All the other components are secondarily.
protect them from what?
Thank you Mo Ibrahim.
US trained officers (CIA) have attempted coups in 5 West African Countries alone:3 times in Burkina Faso, 3 times in Mali, and once each in Guinea, Mauritania, and Gambia.
You talk about a dozen apparent interventions. Have you bothered to count the amount of conflicts in Africa as a total? Stop blaming someone else. Stop being a victim. Start looking at yourself in the mirror and fix your governance for the poorest sake.
@@olsaffa7679 That doesn't change the same it happened
@@olsaffa7679 Sooo we should take responsibility for the CIA interfering with our government???? What kind of gaslighting is this
@Ugwuanyi Collins I'm not saying it didn't (nor can you say it did because you and I can only say what we've been told). You're making my point for me... You're getting stuck on something where you can blame someone else. Stop that and start doing something to get rid of the rotten leadership most of Africa saddled itself with.
@@olsaffa7679 the same is true for south america, the west has bullied and humiliated them for far too long
Well spoken sir, rule application should be universal to every country & not specific states...
18:49 Excellent points on why Africa and the Global South have been guarded in their response to Ukraine and resistant to support one side or the other. Tim just fails to see any hypocrisy in western actions as a reasons for not supporting Ukraine. Get a clue and let go of some of that self-righteousness, Tim.
Please explain this to me because it sounded like he says that African countries were hesitant to condemn russian aggression on Ukraine because America attacked Iraq. I'm Eastern European, I live with russia around the corner and I know history of my nation that had to protect itself against russia for centuries. Why Africans are talking about USA when russia is killing us, Eastern Europeans? Why we have to pay with lives for wrongdoing of USA? Why so many people act and talk as if USA is the most important country in the world and they will pretend that no big deal is happening in spite of USA?
Frankly it's really painful to watch Africans and Indians normal people cheering up russian murders and rapes and kidnaping of children.
I dare this journalist to go to every EU leader and ask them if US takes a U turn on the Ukraine crisis and decides to support Russia , will they support Ukraine then ? A summary of EUs spine.. PERIOD..
Many of us are hypocrites. That's the truth
We are all hypocrites just to a different degrees
You are a very brilliant man Mo
Mo,tell the man what he dearly wants to hear that there is completely no hope for Africa, then stand up and walk out gleefully 😅😅😅
What an insult to equate the geopolitical struggles in Ukraine between America and Russia with the atrocities committed against the continent of Africa. And categorizing it as a pay back for not supporting America geopolitical gamble in Ukraine, is a dishonest analogy.
In essence, diminishing one of the world worst greatest inhumanity events ever carried out by mankind.
The reckless disregard for human dignity and the scramble for Africa, motivated by free resources and dominance.
Greatly buffered coming from a man who I profoundly admired for his hard talk program in the BBC.
But relatively sad by his not questioning the underlying issues that led to the war in Ukraine, and for not advocating peaceful solutions to the conflict. Which is a silent taboo and against freedom of expression.
An important tenet in the democratic principles.
What do you need from Europe? The answer was simple leave Africa alone period if we don't need them why they keep wanting us
Russia was the only country in 1945 that helped African nations get their independence.
The whole interview the western guy tries to belittle opinion the African guy has,
not with facts just mentoring the "right thinking".
Yet kudos to the African guy, today the intelligence has beaten the ignorance!
The interviewer did a good job, his line of questioning is reflective of how western governments build narratives.
Mo Ibrahim was good at giving precise and strong amswers
Thank you sir,For asking them about that,Whether the taws are only for russia.And excluding themselves.
Let’s not be hypocrite! Absolutely correct, let’s be more honest about the US
Does US hypocrisy explain African neutrality on Ukraine? - YES.
Does European hypocrisy explain African neutrality on Ukraine? - YES, YES, YES, YES.
There, I spoiled the video for you.
no wonder the whole world is against them... and why do they want to put the dollar out of use... learned by force, pressure, wars, blackmail to print dollars without cover and bring them in bags to the opposition in countries that are not servants of the USA, and then to provoke fratricidal wars.... that's why they live well in the west, and their good life costs millions and millions of lives in most of the world but for them it is not important how many millions will suffer and how many billions live in poverty in order for the west to have luxury...
Remember the Soviets and North Koreans played a huge role in the independence struggles of many African countries, then they also built a few industries, built infrastructure and helped with trade because the old colonial powers were not very helpful.
Mo Ibrahim is just putting logic on its head 🗣️