Parenting Panel: New Unschooling Trend || STEVE HARVEY
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- You won’t want to miss the opinions of this outspoken panel, as they debate parenting topics like public shaming, spanking, home schooling and the new trend of “unschooling.”
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Let the children come on the show and give their opinion
yes!
no kids are stupid
The kids wouldn't have enough of an understanding to be able to decide where to be schooled
@@imjusthere9954 that's exactly what the system wants us to believe. Read the book, Dumbing Us Down by John Taylor Gatto. Children have much more intellect and understanding than you think.
@@southtext3400 that is so ruuuuuude
Honestly a combination of both traditional and unschooling education would be the best system. I mean growing up being forced to learn things that I had no interest in most subjects. Having a structure yet getting to learn what you're interested in would inspire kids to want to learn.
Ally Williams The Charlotte Mason style of teacher is kind of like that.
the best comment i've seen today, yes school is outdated but it's necessary, it needs to be updated, i disagree with the tests system, remove testing in the first years, make school all about learning and no testing, see the child interests, light a spark of curiosity in the child, make them want to learn not want a good grade, make school hours shorter, and there should be absolutely no homework, no compulsory homework anyway, the teachers can still suggest some work or research to be done at home, but at the discretion of the parents and the child, and only later on in life that a child should show his interests and the school should adapt, if he has a logical mind, guide him towards maths, science, physics ... if he has an artistic mind, guide him towards arts, music, design ...
that is kinda in my opinion on what Montessori is .I always felt like unschooling was just a Montessori way of teaching at home and in the pace of your own child
This is what I do. 3 sons, and we call it eclectic homeschooling. Basically I teach then how to read, do basic addition and subtraction, etc. throughout Kindergarten year. Then we kind of go from there with adding in stuff they NEED to know and doing research and activities pertaining to their interests mostly.
Why can't people just respect each other's decisions.
orijinale MORAL OF THE WHOLE STORY 👌🙌
orijinale know this movement put family first most people really don't want kids or like them really let's be honest
@@lorettataylor2608 I agree. I brought up homeschooling on my FB wall and the overwhelming response I got was that their kids are annoying, fighting, and in need of attention and the parent wants some "me time" and thinks a random stranger paying attention to 25 kids at once will somehow provide them with more than the parent.
What gave you that idea? That everyone who is unschooling their child is abusing them?
Becuase decision can be harmful
I learned more after finishing school than i EVER learned in school
+Ramis M (WonderHousR) Me too.
+Ramis M (WonderHousR) Same here dude.
Me too
Me too
+Ramis M (WonderHousR) same. i never when to college . and im self made million air.
learning more than i ever learned in school
The parents on the 'schooled' side of the panel are being so closed-minded...I'm glad that Steve pointed out the fact that there is a lack of understanding about what unschooling is.
Its not necessarily the learn at your own way thing. ITs the structure. Kids are proven to be more successful and learn better and quicker when under structured systems like school.
Alfred Pardoe lol why do you keep spreading lies.
Do some research and you will find no lies here. Structure is paramount to kids development.
@@jasminevaliente96 it really is, no structure = spoiled brats
@@awkwardguy8238 Not even sure why structure is being mentioned here. Unschoolers have structure, it's just not arbitrarily imposed by an outside curriculum. Kids learn to follow their interests, ask their parents for guidance when they need it, and seek out helpful mentors and resources. Nothing is spoon-fed, nothing if forced or coerced. Structure exists in the world and in any home with children in it. Our minds don't need a specific structure in order to learn; humans absorb information readily when they're inspired, curious, and motivated.
My daughter didn't start learning to read until she was 5-6 years old. She just graduated from the University and his working on having a research paper published. Every child does not need to hit the same milestones at exactly the same age.
No body didn't say no. But dont even have an idea is wrong
Listen man her child needs to learn how to read! Lol ur daughter went to traditional school, if that child doesn't learn between 5 and 6 and continues to be "unschooled" they will be socially inept
Good for your child. But a child who cant read by 5 or 6 is less likely to make it. Your daughter probably went to traditional school where she continuously was being taught. Not this "on her own time" bs
LastChance Homestead When do American kid learn to read? Where I'm from in Spain It's normal to learn how to read from 5 to 7 years old. So a 5 year old who still doesn't read is pretty common I would say.
adsdjkl097 4-6 where I'm from
The reason those kids aren't interested in learning is because the school systems just suck all the life out of "education" and if they would go into un-schooling from an early age I bet it would work very well
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+Mungebimp13 Yes!
I agree 100%!
+Mungebimp13 The school system is all about conformism and obedience. That's how it was created in 19th century Prussia and how it still works today. In every single country with public education!
In Germany (the origin of this system) you're not even allowed to homeschool your children. Even if you are a teacher. Kids will be forced to visit school and you as a parent can even end up in prison. Wonder what they'd do, when you decide to unschool^^
My parents took me out of public school when I was in 3rd grade. I was having a hard time learning in a classroom setting, they were fed up with how the teachers were treating me. I wanted to learn but I thought I was worthless. That's how I was treated by both staff and peers at school. We started to homeschool and my confidence built but I was still behind so we went into an unschooling method. I was such a visual learner. I learned my fractions by cooking, I learned biology by spending time with our local naturalist and veterinarian, I loved to read. I read 8 books a week on any subject I chose. My parents were my guide and they gave me the world! I socialized with so many people. Peers my age and people older than myself, younger than myself. I got my diploma, I went to college! Unschooling is misunderstood. Like everything else there is a right and a wrong way to execute it but there are too many square pegs drowning in over crowded classrooms where they are expected to be and to learn like everybody else 7 hours a day, 5 days a week!
My son is extremely visual as well and after homeschooling him, it became evident he would have done horribly in a classroom environment where so much is taught verbally. His auditory skills were so bad! Now, 3 years later, he is excelling academically and is a year ahead of his 'traditional' grade. We don't unschool but I do try and let him dive deeper into anything he finds interesting. He devours documentaries and prefers those over entertaining tv shows. I hope to do more unschooling as he gets older!!
I'm so happy for you and your son :)
Amen.
How did you get a diploma? I’m considering unschooling my special needs child but I’m not sure how it’ll work for him to go to college. I don’t think he needs a four year degree but maybe more like a community college one. But not sure what college requires from unschoolers
I don't get why "school" people get so angry. When I first started homeschooling people were just evil to me. Why do these people think they need to be looking down their noses at homeschoolers/unschoolers? I think it's bad to have to send your child to school all day and then when they come home they have homework. When do they ever get to have time to explore their own interests or spend quality time with family? Most parents do NOT like their kids to have all this work to do but they are having to send their kids to school and not be in charge of their education. It's sad.
thats the set up... And it conditions them to be a worker of society and not be able to think for themselves.... My son goes to a very good traditional school but I still feel bad because he is such a great artist. he taught himself how to play piano and he is a grwat drawer but the school would never know because its getting him ready to be a worker. (not really because he has an awesome mom) but Unschooling is a road to freedom and I like it!!!
It's because those people are conditioned to conform to social norms. They think unschooling/homeschooling is wrong because it's not typical. Don't worry-they're just weak minded people.
Unfortunately, many people attack what they don't understand. I have a very hard time finding people who are supportive of my decision to homeschool, and oh man, God forbid I now introduce the concept of unschooling.
Danica DeCosto the same reasons why "religious" people look down on other people who's lifestyle differs from theirs.
Danica DeCosto ???? That one lady with the short hair and think pink dress said she IS a homeschooler? Tf?
I am an unschooling mum and we love it! Our kids learn so much and so deeply, and most of all we all love life!
Lulastic Hippyshake I admire you for that. It's a great decision that very few people are willing to consider.
Lulastic Hippyshake me too ❤️ I feel like the "old school" parents here were likely actors. I was unschooled for the most part till 11th grade and graduated valedictorian and went on to college (like it matters 😂).
Hey, I recognise your picture...This lady has a lot of good things to say about unschooling...
Lulastic Hippyshake i might have to do the same because I didn't put shots on my baby! How can I start?
I noticed u posted this 2yrs ago. How have unschooling been like? Would love to read your testimony.
Why are the people on the right...the old school group...so aggressive in the debate? That doesn't come off very well. Try using what you've learned from your way of "schooling" to have a mature and intellectual conversation. Why can't they have a difference of opinion without the scolding attitude?
They’re bullies.
Their attitudes are horrible and their so arrogant. I wish I was on that panel because I’d give these bullies a run for their money.
Wow. Why are the “traditional” parents so incredibly hostile at the very idea of unschooling? They admit they don’t know about it, but they are yelling at the unschooling moms and won’t even listen to the explanation!
One of the biggest issues with the education system is that it's designed to make the US look like we have our stuff together, but it's failing miserably. We aren't even ranked in the top ten for education. We're falling behind and the younger generation is the one paying for that.
I went to a large school in Las Vegas. I was shocked to see the amount of students who had trouble reading and writing. These were things that the education system said "you should already know this", so they continued to be denied help in learning it. The focus was always on getting through the next chapter. And if you were behind, you stayed that way.
Schools are largely funded through property taxes, so if you live in a poor community, you are probably getting a lower level of education. Students have to take way too many tests, some of which don't make sense for what the state is making them learn that year. I took my ACT in my junior year. My math teacher had to stop teaching my class (which was full of juniors) what we were supposed to be learning. In order to score well on the test, we had to skip forward a year. So we can't even focus on what we're supposed to be learning.
What I find to be true for most people is that they want to learn. They want to learn without feeling like they'll be considered failures for not being the best.
Our education system needs an overhaul, so it's really not shocking that parents are findning other ways to teach their children.
Agree 100%
Elsie Crosley agreed and for Gods sake I wish teachers got paid more. It makes no sense to me how most are paid under 40,000 a year when without them our entire society would be in trouble. Then we wonder why teachers dont seem interested din their jobs. Children cant learn from unenthusiastic teachers and we dont get enthusiastic teachers as a norm when they make 38k as a base pay.
Elsie Crosley great 👍
It’s amusing to hear ‘educated’ people speak of Unschooling as new, when it has been the primary mode of education since Creation. It is the schoolroom model of education that is new, with compulsory attendance from age 5-18 not being established in the U.S. until post WW2... a social experiment that has resulted in both the indoctrination and ‘dumbing down’ of attendees.
My husband and I began Unschooling our children forty+ years ago, and I’d do it again in a heartbeat.
Blessings! 🙏🏻
Jesse.🌹
Hi Jesse, Thanks for sharing! If you don’t mind, can I ask if any of them went to universities and/or what they do now as their primary occupations profession?
@@lizbethdiehl318
Hello Lizbeth!
I don’t mind at all.
Our four surviving children chose quite different paths in life.
Our eldest daughter (now 44) was a classical ballet dancer until she suffered an injury some time ago. Now she’s a full time stay-at-home mum.
Our second eldest daughter (42) is a nurse and mother of three.
Our son (40) has his own construction company, which does very well, but he’s also a brilliant guitarist, and that’s where his heart lies. He has no interest in commercializing his gift, but rather finds great joy simply in the doing of it. He is the father of three children.
Our youngest daughter (34) did attend a Christian University and stayed long enough to earn an MA, and she teaches ‘special ed’ kids and has done so for years. She is the mother of two children.
I hope this answers your questions.
Blessings! 🙏🏻
Jess.🌹
Albert Einstein graduated at the bottom of his class and had a difficult time with traditional teaching methods. He was mostly self-taught, and he accomplished great things. Just because something is the status quo doesn't mean it works.
PS: For anyone wanting to know WHY homeschooling should be something you at least consider to do, read the book "Dumbing us Down:The Hidden Curriculum of Compulsory Schooling."
+ladynottingham89 Exactly!
Amen, amen!!!
Labby Williams Getting an education is essential. I'm only saying the traditional method may not be the best one, especially with the poor results we get for science, math, and reading levels.
+ladynottingham89 I can't like your comment so I'll reply to you! I agree 100%!
+SwaggerChiick1 yes true before there was a school , children became apprentice to whatever field they wanted to learn. I could name so many people that were not in any school famous and not famous and they are great people and not homeless. However we have a school system that doesn't work for every child but most parents won't even put in the time to see what is beneficial for their children . They either don't have the patience or is extremely misinformed about how great it is to invest the time into your children . I know that whatever you deem important you going to make time for .
yeah we walk across that stage. we get the diploma and we still don't know what we want to do with our lives and just end up with debt
yes!
That's your own fault. By the time you're even 15 or 16 you should at least start trying to understand yourself and find a purpose.
agreed, High school is when you should be looking for something. First year college is to confirm or change.
Seems like unschooled graduate college at a higher rate than the general population though.
That lady has 6 kids and none of them stopped her when she walked out the house with them lashes on smh
+Kenwood High BAHAHAHA!!!! I thought the same thing! LOL
lol😀😀
Kenwood High lmmfaooooo
Kenwood High LMAO I am so DEAD
Kenwood High I was looking for a comment like this!
as a recent HS graduate kids don't learn in the school because all our curriculum is based off passing a test. we spend all year learning materials to pass a test to be able to go to the next grade and I've never seen any of the materials we learned on the state mandated test itself. none of the information is useful it's a waste of the taxpayers money.
Funny, but the unschoolers seem to be more articulate and intelligent than the traditional schoolers. If I could do it all over again, I would do a combination of unschooling and home schooling. In my school I would add psychology to my teaching plan. Teaching your children about the mechanics of the mind is the key to a free mind. You probably do not know what I am talking about. Look up cognitive dissonance. Very interesting theory. Create an experiment testing this theory. Would be an interesting lesson for your child. Socializing with public school students enhances the indoctrination of the public education system. Teach your child about the power of conformity in groups before you let your
child socialize with the brain washed masses.
I could be wrong. Just something to ponder. Do your own research
I just started homeschooling...I do a combo of both
The unschoolers didn’t seem to be more intelligent and very articulate
Yes!!
Their education & articulation was from traditional schooling. The unschooling is what they are doing with their children. Come back in 20years and do a comparison
I want to do the same to my kids , they can learn sooo much more this way!
First of all the traditional schooling panel sounds like they need some unschooling, they interrupt and don't care about what the unschooling panel has to say, they talk over each other which makes it hard to even know what both sides are saying. Why did they sound so shocked when the lady in the red said her daughter doesn't know how to read at age 5? Are you kidding me no one knows how to read at age 5, in grade school that's kindergarten!!
So true! And everyone sounded shocked, lol. I bet you all their kids in old school still didn't learn how to read until 6 or 7!
My son is unschooled and he taught himself how to read at 6 (I only showed him letter sounds and he started to read signs when we travel, then started to read books) and he checks out 20 books at a time from the library, and they are chapter books! From this experience, I learned that kids are natural learners and not lazy or uninterested like the old school people claimed. Their kids might be that way because they learned to hate learning from school!
Maria Tamayo My cousin's daughter started reading when she was 4 and I've seen children as young as 2 who are able to read so to say that "no one knows how to read at age 5" is not applicable to everyone. The learning process starts from home and the earlier parents start or build a childs interest in things like reading, learning a new language or skill (in my opinion) the better as a child's mind is so absorbent in their younger years. But it is how it's introduced and fostered that can spark an interest in these areas or an uninterest.
B3llaBambin4 I learned how to read it 3 but reading before 5 is definitely not the norm so for them to be shocked whispers are most kids don't learn how to read until 1st grade they start the practice of phonics and letter recognition at 4 and continue that into kindergarten but a kid reading at 5 on their own is rare
I'm really happy to see that some people are starting to get that unschooling isn't about hating school and doing nothing all day. The conversation was short, and there were so many disruptions, but reading your comments actually encourages me to keep sharing. And as for Google Translate, it is very true that it's not the best. That was just one quick example. We know people who speak Japanese and Mandarin, the languages my daughters speak. They are also in online groups where they talk with native speakers and write out notes. There are a myriad of ways to get and process information, and in unschooling, we try to use many options for getting to the main goal of confident autonomy.
I totally get it. I homeschool my 3 little girls. We also unschool some days. Keep doing what you are doing. I wish my mother would have unschooled or even just homeschooled me. The Detroit Public schools taught me nothing. I had to teach myself everything I have learned.
Akilah RadicalSelfie Richards I had no clue you were on Steve Harvey! I was doing a quick YT search to find out more about unschooling when I stumbled in this clip. Thank you so much for your clarity and representing this method of education succinctly. I know you must be proud of your girls- they are amazing to be multilingual and to learn all that they do at their own pace.
If you want to learn more about unschooling read books by John Holt. He also had a magazine Growing Without Schooling (you can find them free on Issuu. There are some interviews on YT with him as well.
Unschooling does not take forever. By the time a kid turns 12 or 13, they already are clear of their career paths and assimilate even much better to a formal curriculum. I know unschooling parents who have since graduated their kids in college. Folk need to stop freaking out about things they do not understand. Learning is natural for humans, and keeping them in a rigid structure that is destroying them won't make them want to learn either.
We also had to unschool for some months after taking our kids out of public school. In those few months, they had actually learned so much more, and their self confidence had improved too.
People who live in glass houses...I unschool, we do life learning. Its not business to judge those who send their kids to school, just like its not theirs to judge me.
finally someone said it! As someone who has been homeschooled/unschooled for 7 years I face All of these hateful comment in my everyday life. People need to be more open minded.
Enjoy the dead end job.
@@DQO07 ur opinion is not needed but thank you : -)
@@DQO07 as opposed to what? 12 to 20 years of government education and having no valuable skills in the market?
This is Ryder they.will and.look for short coming.maybe because I live in the inner city
It says a lot that the anti unschooling people get so angry about different ideas . I agree with what the first unschooling lady was saying ... Kids are just different and they learn differently . I personally was one of those kids that felt stupid because I was pushed faster than i needed to be and didn't get the appropriate help .
old school is so disrespectful! man... let new school speak!!
Especially the man, like oh my goodness. How can you be against something that you know nothing about? Ridiculous
thats the old school mentally. ... I'm talking so you shut up.... proves a point of how old school works. .or doesn't work
butyoucancallmesam honestly their behavior is proof enough new school is the better way to go old school is beyond close minded, unwilling to understand and judgemental
My eyes almost got stuck to the back of my head 😂🤣😂🤣 that's how far back I rolled them when he asked very rudely "your kid don't know how to read?" No booboo the fool... she's 5... u mean to tell me every single five year old in public school can read? Dummy needs to get his facts straight... hell how many 8-10yr olds in PUBLIC school can't read... some unschooling kids probably can't either but that's because it wasn't time for them to learn yet... public school kids have had instruction after instruction and still can't read (not all)
@@bayamonrican Don't know what public school you are refering to but 5 years old and can't read, maybe she need more structure. My son knew how to read before going to kindergarten, before 5
It might take both educational systems but learning starts at home
So true and if parents could spend more time with their children oh what a beautiful world
I have been homeschooling for over 12 yrs. I have one child a sophomore in college (never been to public school in his life), on the dean's list and entered college at age 16. I have an adult son, age 20, who is a correctional office (went to public high school) and my youngest son, 13, is mainly unschooled. I think as parents WE need to be able to have the right to choose what kind of education our children should rec'v. I'm not against the public schools. I just feel I can do a better job at home. That one gentlemen asked about reading. He made a comment about a teen not being able to read. Trust me, that child will want to learn to read. My youngest wanted to learn early because he wanted to play video games. You have to read what's on the screen to play the game he wanted to play. In my 12 years homeschooling, I have yet to meet a teen that didn't know how to read. lol.
I think the misconception here is that children can retain that information for further use in the future and they're happy doing it. There aren't many people that go "HEY! I really remembered what that was or this is...*( adjectives,past tense, a plant cell..whatever you want)" and actually retain it unless its something for their job or something they liked. In traditional school kids just regurgitate what they're told because they have to pass the test so that they could get a little stamp of approval to take home to Mommy. Where as a home schooled kid or unschooled kid would gladly tell you what they've learned because they ENJOYED learning it and not feel the need for their work to be "Approved" and told it's presentable. As someone that has been in public school it failed me and I think it's awesome what these moms are doing and they aren't given enough credit because other mom's or parents think it's WRONG because it isn't the normal thing to do. These things don't work for every family but if it works for you that's awesome.
Close minded people never consider new ideas at first smh😒
Kai A. The level of intelligence is measured by the ability to change - Albert Einstein 😁♥️
“I JUST heard of this unschooling, that’s something I’m TOTALLY against.”
How can someone form an opinion that quickly just because it’s different than your preference
It is absolutely silly to decide that at 4 or 5 suddenly all children learn the same things, in the same ways and at the same time. We homeschool with unschooling leanings, my oldest has learning challenges and I have seen the results of pushing. Tears, feeling stupid and a gutting of the joy of learning! It was awful and that was with me trying my best to be relaxed. Forcing things did NOT do anything but make a toxic relationship with school! What I found is that when I backed off and shifted the focus to areas he enjoys doing (math and science for example) that joy came back and with it a willingness to learn. I’m a pretty avid reader and it was HARD to back off and let him have a breather from learning to read. He wanted to but his brain simply wasn’t ready! So we shelved it. Cut to the end of the school year and suddenly stuff started clicking. He was able to wrap his brain around what he needed to do to sound out words and string that information together and he did it without me in his face making him feel stupid. Traditional school HAS to push, you cannot individually tailor education in that setting like you can with homeschooling, there just isn’t time.
Google translate isn't the best for foreign language.
+jade basham Very true. That's just one quick option I use on the fly.
well it's her daughter learning not her, but I agree. she has a point otherwise though
+jade basham She never said her daugther was learning with GT. Just that she checked it with GT.
Yeah, the point was that she knew she was learning the language online because she could google translate the child's conversations. I heard her speak in another video and she said her kid links up with people in other countries over the internet to do an "language exchange". I actually did this for 2 years with someone and it really helped me to become conversant.
Joseph Smith but even checking how phrases or words are said on Google translate isn't the best either. I have searched up how to say things in Brazilian Portuguese or Japanese only to be told by friends who speak it fluently "that's not how you say it" or "we say it slightly differently."
The parents that don't believe in unschooling are so angry and hostile. Why? Don't tell people what their kids need. Just say you don't understand and give them a chance to explain and help you expand your minds because they're clearly very closed to anything other than the typical conditioning most have. They were also very rude. Is that how they teach you to be in regular school?
"She can't read!" .....Bruh lol
The kid is still only 5 years old not 10
he was expecting she could read hieroglyphs lol
She's 5-years old. Most 5-year olds aren't expected to know how to read and most of them can't read.
doesn'treallylikeIt really? When I was 5 read perfectly.
I paused the video and looked through the comments just for this one because I knew somebody died at this part too 😂😂😂💀
Unschooling is also called , self directed learning
That woman on the right (the black woman) just wants someone to argue with or disagree with she seems used to heated arguments, STRONGLY disagreeing with anything that isn't what she is interested in.
She couldn't even smile at the end. Its a discussion/ debate not a heated argument stop being so loud and obnoxious.
Ms L exactly
My husband and I have taken our son out of the traditional private school and he is now being home schooled. He is doing very well and with gangs, bullying, drugs, teen pregnancy, in the school system, we are very happy that we have the career structure to be able to home school our 14 year old son. So yes I am for home schooling. Prior to bringing the responsibility of our son's education and future in our hands, he went from a smart and intuitive little boy to a boy that was marginalized and made invisible. IT has been two years now and we as well as our son is just fine. He is part of the church youth group and he is very much into sports, so he is a very socially active young man.
The big guy is amazed she can't read at 5? Ummmm Finland's literacy rate is 100% (including people with severe special needs) and Finnish is one of the hardest languages in the world and they don't start to teach children to read until age 7!
Megan I heard Japan does the same thing too. They teach them life skills first and then reading at 7 y/o
I didn't learn to read until the middle of 3rd grade. Literally, one day I was following along while my classmates read and I instantly got it. One month later I was in the highest reading group and my live for reading never stopped. I think some kids will hate it if pushed too early, especially boys.
I actually love this concept. When they started I was like, "oh hell no!", but as I listened more, it does sound like a great concept. It definitely needs some tweaking but I think it's a step in the right direction for some kids. That lady on the right in the blue (eyelashes), just because you didn't go to college doesn't mean you need to force your kids to do so. No where in the explanation of unschooling did they advocate no college. In fact Miss, sometimes formal education does nothing but give people bragging rights. A lot of the time, children learn absolutely nothing from formal education. If this method can somehow be incorporated into regular school, I think that would be excellent. I must say though, that there's no way a child can know for a fact what he or she wants to learn unless they are exposed to it and I think it's a little irresponsible to allow your child to not learn to read. Go at their own pace, but don't straight up not teach them at all because you think they don't want to. All in all, I think this is an excellent concept, if carried out correctly. Of course it wouldn't work for EVERYONE, but it is a great option in my opinion. Poor that lady on the right (eyelashes). No matter what they say, she's shaking her head and is already in disagreement. That's sad. She and many others are very close minded. No one is saying you have to follow that concept, but to think everything they say makes no sense is ridiculous. Even when one of the unschooling women was saying that kids learn differently she was shaking her head. Hunny, that's a fact. Many kids in formal schools are left behind because they can't learn the way the school system is set up and many end up hating school as a result or are labelled as stupid. Whether you agree with unschooling or not, these are facts. They really need a new name for that for real though.
+SwaggerChiick1 I'm really happy the discussion gave you some clarity on what unschooling is. And I agree with you fully on the need for the name change. It's never useful to label something based on what it is NOT. Instead it should address what the things actually IS.
+Radical Selfie maybe call it free-schooling? For freestyle or choice schooling?
+tritawan ruttivut positive schooling, lifestyle schooling?
lmao.. Eyelashes is her name huh.. lol but thats a poor persons thought. if you go to college and "walk across the stage" that makes you successful. But what about the student loans and the fact that you probably will end up with the other people hoping to get a "good job" and still be just making ends meet. its sad that being an Entrepreneur isn't an option until after you have the loans. (for some) I'm all the way ok with the UNSCHOOLING.... Most passions don't include sitting behind someone elses desk, not being the person you truly are. etc.
"Unschooling" is as unique to each child and family as the child themself. We incorporate Unschooling/Interest Led concepts into our days around a limited curriculum inspired formal lesson.
I find it so annoying when people talk negatively when a young child can't read. That doesn't mean they aren't well educated, everyone has difficulty with at least one subject.
TheBookWorm1718: I agree with you, however in schools, they clearly don't deeply address the kids who are not up to pat in a way that fixes the situation, or else they wouldn't have to keep building prison cells accordingly. The mom on the panel clearly cares about her daughter but not being as fast to read as some other kids doesn't mean it will never be addressed at home. For example, one kid I knew in unschooled loved pirates and only pirates. To find out more about pirates, he had to learn to read. To find out how pirates sailed, he had to learn math/maps/charting. To learn about places he could go, he learned world geography. His interest in pirates faded as he aged but his interests in other things took him to new learning. That is how following a child's interests works. It also takes believing that your child can unfold their own destiny better than you can know for them what is best in all situations.
Albert Einstein didn't learn to read until he was 7!
I’m all for unschooling. She is a very smart mom leading smart girls🌸
The old school look so mean...
Because they got whoopings
LOL!
Bullies
Stuck up as well. Like wow the unschooling moms are relaxed.
It almost seemed stage, like they were told they had to act like a-holes just for drama and ratings. I hope they are not normally that mean, judgmental and stuck up!
I am an unschooling mom and our family loves it!
Unschooling has given my son his love of learning back. The school system sucked that right out of him when he was there. It’s nice seeing that spark again
The guy on the right trying to sound like he's come up with a good come back question of "How do you know they are speaking right?" when the lady on the unschooling side was talking about her child being multilingual. He totally missed the point of what she was trying to say which was that they taught and learned through their own curiousity. So what if they weren't speaking right? How is that relevant? They'll continue to learn until they do because they enjoy it!
That was so forced lmao, how the other side was so appalled at a five year old not being able to read. It's different for every kid. I could read at 4 my sis could read at 6. Yeesh
Different strokes for different folks. You just have to find the method that works best for your child. I love learning but took me going to uni to know that that just does not work for me, caused me stress and made me lose interest in my major. I never before heard of unschooling but I think it is an interesting method.
I knew a mother who did unschooling both her kids were extremely smart her oldest who was only 17 had already went to 3 different countries and knows two different language's.
lol.I'm homeschooled and soon I'm getting unschooled. honestly.. ik of some kids that's were unschooled n all they did was play video games all day every day n he grew up to be a video game maker...if u go to public school..obviously u don't really get that. what kid wants to be in school all day..n readddd about the grand canyon...like okay wow so boring...but unschoolers or even homeschoolers...if u interested in the grand canyon u can actually go there n learn first hand about it. I think "old schoolers' are just so simple minded n feel like every child should be in school.
What if the child changes their mind after learning one or two things for their whole life? I agree that some subjects should be optional, like art and music, but sometimes skills come in handy later on. Maybe if we learnt first aid in school as well the ED wouldn't be full of people with cut fingers all the time, or people who think they are having a heart attack when they are clearly not. Kids need a wide range of skills and options.
True, I feel as tho maybe parents should let the kids try public school and if the kids don't like it..take them out. There's wide range for ya. Try homeschooling if they don't like regular school. It all depends on your kid. But no other parents should be mad because someone else does something a different way.
What my parents did because I had/have a learning disability is they spent 30-60mins a day teaching me at home and made it fun. They hired tutors who taught in a fun way. They put my in hobbies where I would learn to learn such as piano and soccer and theatre. Being in school is still beneficial because they learn to function in society. You need to learn to make an imperfect situation work for you and function within it or you won't be able to deal with it as an adult.
School is terrible in its current form and is destructive. Nature know best, we are meant to grow up in a tribe like setting with both parents, grandparents and extended family influencing the child and helping to guide the child, passing down knowledge and skill sets expanding awareness continuosly. Human beings are very curious and imaginative by nature and we love to learn new things. The current systems all but destroys the creative essence in children which is fundamental for success and happiness. It is based almost completely in the left brain, with almost no focus on the right brain, both are needed for holistic brain function The Adults are not meant to go to work all day while being separate from their children, although the way this current system is set up makes it very difficult to do it another way. For unschooling to be successful the parent needs to guide the child and draw out their natural abilities.
I watched my 8YO nephew break into tears because of school and not feeling “smart” enough or getting frustrated because he doesn’t understand something, it breaks my heart. It reminds me of my school days and feeling like an idiot in certain subjects, comparing myself to classmates and siblings. If I ever have kids I’m going to do a combination of homeschooling and unschooling.
The problem with schools of today as oppose to schools of 30+ years ago, is the kids are learning to pass State Board recommendation ONLY because this is how the School Districts get their funding. Bad Scholastic Test scores in the inner city as well as some county School Districts alot of the time get the lest amount of funding, which produce poor grades and kids failing to learn until they eventually drop out. Phonics are all but null and void nowadays, the after school and summer enrichment programs are gone and the teachers they are producing are not like they use to be YEARS ago. Also teachers are not getting paid what they are worth (good dedicated teachers that is). The sad thing about all of this is the States and Local government continue to find money to produce these SUPER MAX PRISONS to house the adults who failed through the cracks in society, but they can't find money to produce good teachers or help change the curriculums in school to help educate EVERY CHILD no matter what. Mighty sad state THIS country is in now.
You really need to read John Holt's books. He was talking about the problem with schools in the 70's
As a teacher and someone who studied child development I can say with confidence that unschooling works, and I encourage it.
I think that there are things that you need to learn that parents can't really teach you in this generation. Learning different languages, different math stuff, reading, and more. If I was stuck at home, I wouldn't know English cos my first language was French. Also learning in a school will help you in the future when you start working with other people like you do in school.
LOL home educated children aren't stuck at home all day LOL
Going to unschooling you will never have that childhood memory as every normal kid has of going to public school for example: meeting your first friend, getting to go on cool field trips, and meeting teachers who will actually help you in life. Yes there can be bad things like bad teachers maybe being bullied but overall having those memories help you gain experience for your future so you don’t have to deal with the same things you did or choose to do in the future.
I self taught while in school, I unschooled myself. It depends on the child. Not the household. I go to school with children that went to school every single day and is dumb as hell. -- Excuse my french. So education is nothing without the drive of the child.
I have taught an entire class of F students at 16 years old-- based off showing them how to life-learn. Now each one of them students have a 3.0-4.0.
"Give a man fish and he will eat for a day. Teach a man how to fish, and he will eat for a lifetime. "
My daughter loved to learn at an early age. She knew her letters, shapes, colors and most letter sounds by 3. By 5 she was starting to read because she wanted to know what the words were in the book. She went to traditional public school from Kindergarten through 4th grade. She gradually stopped enjoying learning and started regressing. We encouraged her, I worked in her classrooms and I was in daily contact with her teachers. We made the mutual decision to homeschool in 5th grade. We had all the curriculum and a teacher on call if we needed help. That year my daughter went from a 3rd grade reading level to a 5th grade level in less than 6 months. As the years progressed I gave her the option to stay home, go to public school or private school. She chose to stay home. We gradually used less and less curriculum and often did our own thing. Because we weren't using curriculum and measuring her success by anyone else's standards she was able to take classes in our community like cultural geography, cooking, ballroom dancing and many other classes our local community center offered. She would often take a book out to the creek and read then go for a swim. She was often outside being active while her peers we're in school from 7:45am to 3pm. When they would be home doing homework she was out working or babysitting. In her Senior year she was a mother's helper to another homeschool mom. She was teaching children how to read and she was enjoying herself at the same time. When I stepped out of being in charge of her education she blossomed and learned more than I ever expected her to.
the Black lady at the right end keeping shaking her head and acting like any other idea of schooling is foolish without trying to understand it. That is the height of stubborn ignorance, you often can't have progress or change for the better with these people smh...
There are a lot of better words for Unschooling that wouldn't frighten so many parents away and give them a better understanding of what it means... Hands On Education Child Guided Education Self Motivated Education Instinctive Education Exploration Education Terms such as "Free Range" and "Radical Unschooling" Are actually very unstructured ways of life (no rules, no boundaries, no bedtimes, no discipline etc.) that go along with the schooling but are certainly not approved of by every home educator.
I think both are acceptable. You can't leave everything up to the school and you can't leave everything up to the child either. . . .
Parents of interest led learners support and facilitate, encourage and guide....the children aren't the leaders in the relationship or of all the elements of their education. It's more like a partnership, but as the adult, parents obviously have more wisdom, experience and knowledge that is necessary to keep things on the right track. However, unlike the school system, parents have their child's best interest in mind and can individualize their child's education to reach their fullest potential in the areas they shine in.
Everyone knows their child and knows what sort of education works best for them. Home schooling works for us. My 4th grade student has dyslexia and I have an OG tutor for her so she gets 1-1 help 2x a week. Most children with dylexia fall through the cracks which is sad. She has never felt like she has a disability but just knows her brain works differently for reading than her brother and sisters. She excels at math and is gaining ground with reading everyday. She learns best by music, creative play, and hands on. My 2nd grader loves learning through videos and online program like Teaching Textbook, Reading Eggs, etc. He is reading at grade level and is a grade level above in math. He also loves hands on experiments and sensory play. My 1st grader actually likes workbooks and reading books more than online games. Every child learns differently. Putting them in a school environment where they are all expected to learn the same way is difficult. Some children do thrive in a school type of environment though and some thrive with home schooling or unschooling, I have a friend whose son just got accepted into Havard through unschooling. We shouldn't compare or judge what is the best style for the whole it is whatever is the best style for the individual.
wow. 'unschooling' so umm, what are these kids gonna do or rather how will they adjust to the classroom environment when it is time for them to get some certification? suppose they want to learn some sophisticated things such as engineering or medicine or computer science? will they br prepared for what is ahead... the work load and all
I'm sure they will it just all depends on the child. School is definitely not for everyone and I'm sure they will find a career where they don't need to receive a degree.
Godschild_Channy like one of the unscooling parents said, let their curiosity guide them. If they're interested in sophisticated things such as engineering, medicine, or computer science, their curiosity will guide them to resources that are necessary for them to master that area in which they are interested in!
Depends on the child/teenager. Every kid has his or her own different way of learning things. Albert Einstein had trouble reading and writing in his childhood and bloomed quite late
crashpal, that tale about Einstein is a myth (a lie)that is perpetuated by some people...... I guess it kinda motivates one into thinking they can be the next Einstein
crashpal einstein’s genius wasn’t recognized by his teachers. He was off the charts in math and physics and thats how he got into university
I left school with no qualifications because I was hardly there and never learnt much about anything anywhere. However when I wanted to fix myself no school will take me. Until one day I met a teacher who let me explore my curiosity and let me learnt what I want. She thought me the love of learning. That actually inspired me to go to school and learn. Once you know how to learn and love it. You will want to learn everything.
Unschooling sounds like an excellent idea honestly, because kids love it, and they're not being brought down with intelligence tests, and also, the majority of kids, HATE school, kids actually love unschooling, plus, every kid and parent is different, and schools are all the same
I like the concept of un-schooling that the kids learn things that they are interested in, but thy still need guidance in certain stuff to show them what they are doing right from wrong. Like the 5 year old child that doesn't know how to read and will learn how to read when she's ready? Nope. Not that for me. They have to show her and tell her why learning how to read at a young age is good for her and then when she learns how to read she can read things on what she's interested in to read.
Old school rough af lmao
I evaluate homeschoolers for my state. The rich vocabulary and explanation coming from the parent's mouths, you can tell they are doing it right. Unfortunately that is not always the case. You have to be motivated and have a passion for learning and helping your kids succeed in order to do this. You GO girls. Yes, I agree, we should call it something different.
The name threw me off completely. I have to admit that the concept is good, but it needs a different name.
***** At least it's a better name than 'Unschooling'
+Real Vegan Mama Interest-Based Learning works as well. ^^
Joy Boy it's a great name cuz that's what it is. Unschooling
I had thought unschoolimg referred to a period of time in which a child who was formerly in a traditional school transitioned into homeschooling..Apparently, I was wrong.
Bah9, that's deschooling.
I was 21 when I began homeschooling my son, who was 3 at the time. My son is a "special-needs" child. He acquired a permanent brain injury at birth due to negligence which resulted in him having Hypoxic Ischemic Encephalopathy, Epilepsy, a severe speech delay, moderate developmental delays, and he also has Sensory Processing Disorder, Type 1 Diabetes, and is severely allergic to egg, tree nuts, and soy. When he was just an infant in the NICU, I would read to him. Around the time he was a year old, we began "learning through play". I naturally pointed out colors, numbers, shapes, and words while playing with blocks, reading books, or at the park, etc. I naturally counted or used numbers while doing household chores with him by my side. By age 3, he couldn't talk, but he could point out numbers 1-20, all colors, all shapes, and a few sight words. I was never against him going to daycare/school, but with his medical needs, therapies + allergies, I never felt 100% comfortable with any of the facilities that I visited. As a result, I looked into "preschool at home", and our very traditional homeschooling journey began. The first year was great. We both loved it. At age four, he began taking interest in things not necessarily in line with the curriculum we were using. It frustrated the both of us when I was wanting him to sit still for sight word practice and he just wanted to be a ninja. So, we took a break from homeschooling to focus on fun and regroup. Long story short... we ended up accidentally UNSCHOOLING and he learned a tremendous amount of "core" subjects through his interests that were completely unrelated. As unschooling (and homeschooling) parents, we are extremely involved and very proactive about finding resources, researching ideas, etc to ensure that our children's interests are explored in a way that WILL result in learning. And in actuality, when you're truly interested in something you will learn and acquire knowledge about that particular interest/subject whether you are TRYING to or not. Humans are made to be inquisitive and learn naturally through daily experiences. I am 27 years old now and, I learn something new EVERY. SINGLE. DAY! Most of the time it's soley from good ol' human interaction/conversation! Unschooling may need a new name, but it's naturally how we ALL learn, and it was the norm until the last few decades. Public school is indeed great for SOME children because structure is needed for them (especially when their home environment/parents aren't that great or involved). All in all, knowing YOUR child and the type of environment they excell in, is the key to a well-rounded education!
Maybe a good blend of both would be ideal....call it Informal Schooling! Where the child still learns the basic topics of education, but also get a period of class where it's an exploratory environment. They definitely need to incorporate real world applications in High School, like how to manage money, write a resume', manage credit, etc.!
My son is homeschooled/ unschooled. The public school system failed him. I was made promises for resources that NEVER HAPPENED! We worked with our son alot but he gave up because he was so far behind he couldn't catch up. But since he's been home he has a 3.5 Gpa and has really come out of his shell. He even gained 10lbs because of his lack of stress!!
All this talk about how kids won't want to learn is just sad. Since when did parents start doubting their children so much? The wonderful thing about a child is possibility and the school systems are destroying that. My problem is that whenever a system different than the "traditional education" system is introduced people don't even want to listen. Listen and then decide how you feel about it. And all that talk about a child who can't read at 5.......My daughter was born in December so she has a late birthday, so she was basically 5 when she started kindergarten.....you want to tell me that every kindergartner knows how to read 2 months into school???? No. Guys, look at it this way don't judge something before you know what it is. Unschooling may sound weird and it may not be for you, but for some it is truly amazing. Oh, and to everyone claiming unschooling is a new trend, its not. In the history of man schools technically are relatively new.
Even kids who go to school can't even read. You got people in Highschool who don't know how to read. The father on the schooling side pissed me off
I was a natural learner... my parents gave me a great deal of freedom. I was a painter, writer, poet, chess champion, and just opened to learn. I didn't go to high school because of bullies and a lack of good education and teachers. Oh, I also played the piano by ear. I'm naturally gifted and the WS education was killing me. I graduated from high school by 15 years (took the GED) and went to Rutgers U., at 16 years old and did very well. I still think college was a waste of my time... I've owned my own company for 25 years. I didn't need school for that.
I like unschooling and learning and doing what you love! I've written and published 36 books, I show people how to live for free globally, and located free resources to thrive! Our kids don't need school... they need great role models and freedom to learn and experience life. Bravo!
Honestly, a 5 year old can't make these decisions. Obviously most children at the age of 5 would rather stay home playing games instead of learning if you gave them a choice.
magali castro: Kids learn from playing games better than from a classroom setting anyway. Plus at school it is one teacher for approx. 35 students...one on one education tailored to the individual student is awesome! My sister fit into her kids life everything school teaches the kids into two hours in the morning and let the kids follow their interests the rest of the time. They blossomed, two received engineering full ride scholarships, two went into theatre/singing/psychology on full ride scholarships. They are well rounded, they are active & healthy...but most importantly, they all have that light in the eyes that lets you know they are fully alive, happy, passionate! Traditional education started dating the industrial revolution to prepare large numbers of people to become obedient factory workers. They had to be smart enough to regurgitate memorized information to run the machines but not too smart so as to become land or factory owners themselves. It hasn't changed since then, only gotten harder and more competitive but not any different in agenda. Unschooling is about nurturing the child's spirit, helping them bring their personal best to planet earth in their own unique way.
Kids learn through play. Isador Duncan, Leonardo Da Vinci, Mark Twain, Milton Hershey, Leo Tolstoy these are some of the famous people who were unschooled growing up for all or most of their childhoods. Children clearly learn before they go to school. They learn their ABCs, their colours, how to put their shoes on, the names of dinosaurs. They learn all of that, for example, having their granny babysit them while mom's at work and they learn it cos they ask grandma a million questions. Kids never stop learning and they don't need a certain place to sit in in order to learn.
Im a homeschool mommy, and I get so much hate from family, its awful, :( unschool, homeschool private or public whatever you decide be proud and stay strong, youre making the best choice for your family, and your children.
Samantha Alvarado thanks for the encouragement. We live in Kenya and we unschool,my relatives bullied me because of that and one cousin labeled me a control freak.
You know what is best. You are their mother for a reason! Good luck with your homeschooling journey! God bless.
The old school panel are bullying, the new school are more open minded
I’ve homeschooled my oldest.... when he went back he was bullied by adults and children. He is an all A and B child who now is tired of being judged. He is a student athlete who is extremely outspoken and loves to be fashionable and be himself schools want children to conform to the environment and parents not to speak when advocating for their child at least in my experience. I recently began researching unschooling which was started in 1970. I believe you don’t knock anything until you try it. Everyone is different!
i also think kids learning off their own impulse can be difficult as they can be so grossly intune that its difficult to get them to do other important things
We’re starting online school this year with my boys . Tired of all the pressure on everyone. Kids need sleep and play , not structure to the max . When are we going to quit pushing our kids off on someone else ?
@3:51 So as a purr? Those kids are doomed.
(yes I know what she meant... but still)
if you are an engaged parent it doesn't matter if your child is unschooled, homeschooled or regular schooled. I've done all 3 of then and its got 100℅ to do with how you interact with your kids, how much energy you put in and what you focus on. Even if your child goes to school you should still be a homeschooler. Having a teacher doesn't mean you get to shirk your responsibility of being their main educator. Even though my kids are in the school system now, I am still their main teacher. Their classroom teacher is my assistant.
This is the dumbest part of the show and I don't watch the show. Why are they defending themselves about what they do with their lives to appeal to a larger audience? If it works for them, let them be. They're not starting a cult and murdering kids. This is a panel for argument and telling people what is right and wrong based on a consensus that doesn't even matter to each individual. If you do something that you can justify and not hurt anyone in the process, keep doing that.
It's because they want to spread the idea to a wider audience in case someone who doesn't know but would benefit from the information could apply it to their lives. It's not about begging for acceptance or any of that. There's also nothing wrong with open disagreements or heated discussions. If people only spoke to those they agreed with, there would be no point to living.
Unschooling is just speaking to your kids at home when they get home or when they are off on vacation...instead of shoving them in daycare or sending them off to someone else. I learned how to sew, cook, clean, speak different languages, interact with different cultures, etc. and still went to a public school because my parents interacted with me and encouraged me to learn about my interest. I get the concept but I just want more information and or perspectives from adults that were unschooled for more than 5 years.
Google Translate as a resource for learning language: LOL!
That wasn't for them to learn, the guy asked how she knows they're even saying anything, since the mother doesn't speak the language that the kids do. So I imagine that sometimes she types what they said into Google Translate and can see that yes, they said something applicable to whatever was going on. It was just for the mother to keep up a bit with the kids since she hasn't learned the language herself.
I had never heard of un-school myself. I have a background in teaching educating kids and I think the term un- school should be changed. My five year old daughter loves to read, because I love to read. I have been reading to her every since she was in my womb. She has interest in books that have stories about martial arts, cooking, hair styling, sharing, meeting new friends. I agree with the lady that was speaking about how child learn without us even realizing they are learning. My child is a sponge. She is so funny and I thank God every day for her. She is so smart she puts 100 piece puzzles together within a couple of hours with just looking at the book. I know I was not doing things like that at her age. My parents spoke to me and didn’t use a lot of baby talk with me and I began to understand and speak early. I believe that my daughter is as amazing as she is because one my husband and I were blessed to be able to live comfortably on one income with him being in the military until our child was able to go to kindergarten. I had part-time jobs here and there, but my main focus was our child. My husband knew this before we ever got engaged. He knew that providing for me and our child was his responsibly allow financial until she was of age to go to school full time. I also was raising my younger brother who was only 14 when he came to live with me and my husband after our father and his mother passed away. I’m saying all of this to say kids learn by example. My daughter is a very eager learner, helpful, happy child, and that is because my husband and I want to be the ones to introduce things to her first. We have set a really good foundation for her, and although we can not monitor what she is learning outside of us when she is at school she knows that she can always talk to us and tell us anything. We can always try new things that she is interested in and if something is unsafe other than just telling her no. I give her examples and sometimes have even pulled up videos to help her understand why things are just the way they are. Thank you for sharing the parenting panel.
Does anyone else feel like this teaches kids if you don't what to do something you don't have to? The real world doesn't work like that.
Jay sometimes it does. If you don't want to do something then you don't have to do it. Just accept the risk from it.
I keep commenting on people comments lol. It depends on what the parent or guardian is trying to teach them. I'm an unschooler and I honestly don't do that much "school" Work(most I do in a week is maybe one math lesson with a bunch of crash course history and anatomy videos) I'm more interested in the things I love like writing, reading, dance, hanging out with other homeschoolers/unschooler and taking care of my cats. Not everyone homeschools/unschools the same
Why not have both? Give them the structure to be well rounded but also build on developing their curiosity and creativity.
I have never heard of it before but I see a lot of benefits in unschooling. And interestingly enough, it seems you would have to have a lot more discipline and structure IN unschooling for there to be any benefit, because you must monitor what the child is finding interest in and ensure they are indeed learning and progressing in that area. Otherwise they are just Playing. But successful unschooling may allow for a great deal in confidence in children.
I am a product of the traditional schooling system (have a bachelor's degree in Kinesiology/Exercise Science) and I can honestly say I've learned more practical knowledge (critical thinking, day to day life necessities, culture, history, business, etc) and about myself outside of school than within it.
I found that the most successful people in traditional schooling "test well"; meaning they can do well on tests to get the grades but test scores and evaluation results are a product of so much more than knowledge. If you don't have time to study (maybe there is financial, personal, mental, health obstacles, etc) it is not reflected in the evaluation as all it shows is your ability to fill in and complete testing that day. I think unschooling may provide a different way of assessing intelligence
+CarAmeL624 Thanks for sharing your perspectives! Those critical thinking skills you mentioned are definitely not encouraged or fostered in traditional schooling, which is why many children need viable options.
In Canada we have forest schools where the kids stick to the educational curriculum but schooling is completely hands on and instead of a classroom setting, all classes are done in outdoor environments, classes are usually held in a forest setting, very few books, or paper are used, everything is very hands on and learned in nature.
these are people who never liked school themselves. now they are helping their kids to hate school.
it seems more like they excelled in school and are able to overcome the negative aspects.
They are actually supporting their kids' love of learning.
Unshcooling isn't new. I home educated my 3 children in the 90's and into the 2000's. We unschooled for several years and when my kids entered school for the first time in their lives at grades 9 and half way through grade 11 they were immediately placed on the honor rolls and graduated as honor students! Unschooling worked for us. Happy kids, happy family. They are all successful adults with families of their own.
I'm proud for ya and happy for u and ur family. I'm a new homeschooler...any advice is welcomed.😎
more like, "we don't want to pay tuition fees."
As someone who has hated traditional schooling since I was in 2nd grade(I also have adhd), this type of schooling fascinates me because I still struggle to learn anything I'm "supposed" to learn. But almost anything I am curious and want to learn about I learn insanely quickly with very little effort. Sometimes almost no effort.
I would have personally preferred this for myself, but I can also see that this wouldn't work with everyone. And when I have kids I would probably prefer them to still start with traditional education(dispute how emptionally traumatic my entire schooling life was for me) and see how they go with it.
I'd encourage you to use those learning skills to do some research into unschooling. Read some studies about how/when kids learn best, and find some podcasts to listen to (read aloud revival is my favorite; the woman who does it homeschools but doesn't unschool. It's all about the benefits of building your family culture around reading).
I didn't think I'd ever unschool my kids, but now I don't know if I'll ever do anything else.
When children don't know how to read and write by a certain age, parents of those kids best be prepared to know that their children may be taken advantaged of, especially when purchasing items and they cannot count/check the correct change received; also if the kids go out to play if there are warning signs about stuff: e.g. don't approach the railway crossing, no swimming, - the children cannot read the signs, just let their curiosity take over??!! (Having said that, kids still do it, even if they can read), but the fact is the idea of un-schooling is feckin' rubbish, stupid and dangerous!!!
By the way, Google Translate is not always grammatically correct when it comes to translation, so that was preposterous for that woman to say that is where they learn a new language!!! How do I know, because, I can speak another language and have checked out GT!!! Those kids need to have proper, structured language lessons, period.
TheBookWorm1718 l hear you!! I can understand how you found that to be frustrating!! Sadly those children you tried to help, will have to learn the hard way...🙁😔!!
Having said that, l would have thought that the 5 year old would have been easier to teach, compared to the older students...!!
TheBookWorm1718 l am curious, how and why did their parents ended up 'neglecting' the children's education? At 16, l can understand your good intentions to help them learn, but that was too much pressure on you at such a young age! Was this a voluntary offer to help them on your part?
Going off on a tangent, some children do find it difficult to learn to read using traditional means (l didn't talk until l was 3 years old, but made up for it as l learnt to read using the traditional method at 4 years old 😂😂😂). From what l understand the 'phonetics' method of learning to read may be easier for others - that is how my youngest brother learnt to read, as he struggled using the traditional method. However, if he tried to throw a tantrum at a difficult word, my dad would whoop his behind!!
TheBookWorm1718: yikes. sorry to hear about that unfortunate situation. Homeschooling or unschooling, isn't about neglect though. All kids need care, nurturing, attention, time, and support of learning at home and through whatever education method is chosen.
I think different things work with different kids at different ages. I went to school as normal from K to the 5th, got “bullied” so to speak, was homeschooled for 3 years, and spent the last year in another public school. Everything I went through shaped me into the person I am right now, and everything I’ll go through today, tomorrow, and the next day, every day until I die will shape me into the person I will be. Public school worked for me as a child because I didn’t have enough attention span to pay attention without an unbiased observer to keep me in check, and I had an attitude I couldn’t have used at home. Homeschool helped me go at my own pace and do what I needed to do. This new school is giving me things I couldn’t have gotten in homeschool. Overall, don’t jump to conclusions if you and your 7 year old boy live in LA just because something worked for a Nashville teen chick. Work it out with your child. Don’t be a dictator. You’re the parent, the person your child looks up to most likely. Don’t throw away their trust.
Child not reading at 5? Wtf... I don't like the school system but damn
D Alexandria that's not late most kids don't really get it until 1st grade
victoria hale that is late your kids should be at least able to say some words when they see it in the paper, spell their name and be able to know their alphabet
Thomas Tekno that's good! I think kids Should be able to read especially if they can work the internet which is basically what our children are surrounded by 24/7 nowadays.
What gets lost in this is that some kids are going to do well no matter where they are. For example, that african american lady on the left? Her kids are going to do well if they are in public school, private school, homeschooled or unschooled. The actual physical situation doesn't matter that much, because you can tell a) she is very smart and b) she's an extremely strong advocate for her children. Parents matter a lot more than the school situation...js.
It makes me sad that the panel is so closed-minded and contentious. But then again, they are the products of a conventional school system. ;)
I couldn’t read properly until I was 8 years old. I was in public school and I went to tutoring. I feel like it all comes down to the approach and how you teach. I am actually going to become a Montessori teacher because the approach to learning how to read and do math is so much different than traditional schooling. On top of that Montessori actually has practical life skills as part of the curriculum. So that just shows how alternative approaches to schooling can set you up for a better education and life skills.
And also not to roast anybody, but a good handful of the people I went to school with were not that bright. So that just proves that traditional education doesn’t guarantee smarter and more successful students.