In the annals of automotive journalism, the deadpan delivered hair dryer scene will be recorded as generation defining and one of the most brilliant demonstrations of an electric vehicle, ever.
*Very important factor!!!* For me at least. I always buy car according to few main factors like: flat big cargo space for sleeping, AWD, increased ground clearance, comfortable seats. My previous car was Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV with outstanding sleeping possibilities. Good flat space in Ioniq5 was crucial to purchase the car. That is what I did :)
You made another great video Bjorn. It is great to see Norway's Circle K stations really catering to EVs. I am hoping Circle K in America will eventually do the same.
My favorite EV reviewer, you actually talk about the underlying tech for EV. Whether the batteries have their own independent cooling system or share the same as the passengers in the car matter. One of the biggest causes of battery losing capacity is from running too hot while charging.
Hi Bjorn, I think you can set the start up volume for music in the settings. You can in the Kia Niro, you can also cancel the welcome and the goodbye music too.
Thanks for the awesome reviews of this car. I'm hoping to get one here in Australia this week when they come out. Of course the totally botched it here. Constant errors from the ordering system and I'm stuck on the last step of trying to pay the deposit with "unexpected errors".
Björn makes jokes but I have had this discussion with the wife. When we pick up our next car (EV) it will need some sort of V2L-setup. Why? Excursions with the (proper) air frier and an electrical grill. All of a sudden, taking a drive with the family to a lake in the forest is on like donkey kong. Really, this should very much become par for the course.
You should see if you can add to your list of sponsors. Perhaps a suitable hairdryer brand and definitely the Norway Tourist Board for showing us all that beautiful country. I have my Ioniq 5 on order but will have to wait until Christmas :( Great Vids, looking forward to the child seat reviews and how wipeable the interior leather is for baby vomit !
Bring your electric grill. Fold the pizza so that the dough is outside and the cheese inside. Put in in the grill. It’s not dry and no mess. Less space than a hairdryer anyway.
I like your content Bjorn fun but nerdy enough for geeks like me. I wondered if you could do a video about the condition of older EVs eg Early leaf Zoe i3 Tesla after many harsh Norwegian winters, it would be Interesting to see how the cars are holding up. I guess it would be fairer to find an example of each that have been used in similar ways and have similar ages/mileages… may be tricky, but I guess you have many Norwegian fans that might oblige? I just thought it would make some great content eg battery health, interior exterior and mechanical condition of the car etc
The problem with the insane auto music every time you get in the car is the same as the ambient lighting as I believe it relies in the User 1 or User 2 active choices that activates certain default actions like play radio or media, change seats position, activate heated seat, change ambient color etc….
After the sofware update for preheating the battery and the addition of several Hyperchargers (even Ionity) on this route, this car deserves to be retested.
If on roof is solar panels then get energy of Sun only then when car is started. Bad because must some mode when car parking all day that solar panels chargcing automatlicy until batteries are full.
Great review! Just one question I want to know your experience of not having rear wiper. Do you have problem while driving in rain or moist mornings when condensation just stays on rear windows and with city driving you can’t make it go away?? And how it is in compare to Tesla model?
always love your videos. preparing for ordering a model 3 next year. cannot wait. btw do you know when you can do a range test and 1000km challenge for the Cupra Born yet?
If you are charging in AC the car could direclty route with a relay the incoming AC supply to the outlet, doesn't make sense to convert AC -> DC -> AC. So it doesn't make sense to use the OBC to power the outlet. Also when charging in DC you dont'use the OBC for charging, so in DC you could use the OBC. In that way you have alway power in the outlet
The solar is gimmicky. It provides no practical benefit. V2G on the other hand is game changing. Eventually they will enable use for it as a battery to power your home.
Hi Bjorn! I am planning to buy ioniq 5. In your opinion, which one is better to buy based on the battery consumption,,, a rear wheel drive or the 4 wheel drive? Thanks
I would really like to see the review of the Sion Motors car with its integrated solar panels in the roof and doors. Would great to see Björn vision on that.
The music bug you're saying at the end reminds me when using UA-cam music without premium account Every 10-15 mins it will pause and ask you to continue
Guys, Bjorn had drink too much -> set playback speed to 0.5 , jump to 00:18 :D and enjoy hearing our drunk hero ;) ...btw - Bjorn , congrats and I wish you and your family all the best in future
Hi Bjorn, since you are the specialist of sleeping in cars, which is best for that in mind once in a while? Ioniq5 or some other? Of course the car should be good otherwise too. Looking for some not so expensive, but still roomy car.. What's your honest recommendation? Thanks!
12:10 Mr. Bjron, will the power losses on the 400V load be caused by the necessary 600-700V conversion? The reason is that when you do not have to raise the voltage (for example in Ionity) there are no power losses, they are the same in the charger and in the OBD.
I had a Audi Q5 that would play music each time the car was switched on. The solution was to press the on/off for a second instead of just a quick tap. quick = pause, long = off
It sounds to me like the lane keeping is only for visual flight rules, when it is partly obscured, the logic does not like predicting what cannot be seen. So no instrument flight rules.
How long does it take, to charge from ~20% to 80%? Hyundai advertises it would take 18 minutes with a 350-kW fast charge. What is your real-world experience with the charging times? The quick charge time is one of the main reasons why I’m interested in this vehicle. But from watching your videos, it seems like the batteries get hot and that makes it take longer to charge. I don’t know much about all the electrical terms-and I don’t want to have to learn all that. I just want to plug-n-go. You’re very knowledgeable. I couldn’t figure out why it seemed to often take longer to charge the IONIQ 5 when you were charging it. It seems like hot batteries would be a constant variable, and that the charge would always take longer. I was just surprised that the battery wasn’t charging as fast as it could or should. I’m mainly curious how fast the vehicle would take to charge if the vehicle had this kind of scenario: had 3 people in the vehicle; drove to 20% battery; Charge up; Drive to 20% range and charge again. All in the same day. I’m trying to figure out if the amount of passengers in the car-obviously reducing the range you could drive-if that would affect the battery from being charged fast.
When I see those charging speeds I don't feel so good with my ioniq EV (charging at 35kw)..But then again Vancouver barely has any DC charging (at least not in my area)...
Bjørn You need to test the new (update) BMW IX3 :) Hope they have fixed the battery issue. When it's cold. And the other issues you hit the last time you drove the "old" IX3. i am Buying the new IX3 if they have solved their battery problem.
Bit of a bummer that the V2L doesn't work during charging. But OK, first make coffee with the Nespresso, then plug in the charger. Getting mine within a month!
Hi Bjorn. What app are you using on your phone to show all info on vehicle. Now I am off for pizza while blow drying my hair. Cool blogs keep it going.
I really enjoyed your very informative video. I was really looking at this vehicle and I’m really impressed with its charging speed. 15-20 minutes is ideal for many of my stops and since I live in Florida I don’t know if preheating the battery would be an issue. I’m not so sure though. Either way, I’m very impressed. Oh and by the way, I watched both parts 1 and 2 from the beginning to the end. Lol.
Hey Bjørn, just picked up a ioniq 5 and seeing a bms soc of about 50% but displayed % is around 70%.. using same app as you, any idea what is going on? Not seen over 300km, conditions in oslo at the moment without any heat or A/C....
The infotainment software looks exactly like what's in my GV80. There's a setting in there to disable music resuming on startup. Unfortunately you can't disable the stupid idle stop/start function without pressing a button every time you get in the car... but that's an ICE car problem so nevermind.
The battery's thermal management system's heat exchange fluid temperature when it passes through the inlet to enter the battery pack is the inlet temperature. So when heating the battery, the inlet temperature will be higher than the battery temperature. When cooling the battery, it's the other way around.
Standard for the P45 jubilee edition, but are supposedly possible to add to config next year. Same with panoramic glass roof. I just wished the Solar Power glass would have been semi translucent...
Nice car, a few refinements will help, is this car half the price of a model Y? A friend paid $10,000 Canadian extra for self driving for a total of $92,000.00.
Is it ONLY heat pump or does the car have additional “backup” electricalheater? Does anyone know if it’s compressor with inverter or on/off. How many kW of heat can the heat pump produce?
@@bjornnyland ok, but I just learnt today that the difference was that the AWD version ioniq 5 had a heat pump and the other PTC. Could that be correct?
@@bjornnyland I agree, but you can set the infotainment with the seatbelt on. Or just treat it like a reminder. I don't like the beeps, but I'm already used to putting on the seatbelt first, then start te car. Annoying at first, but the car gave me good habits. I have also a non-electric car. When I don't press the clutch when pressing the start-button, only the infotainment will turn on without the beeps. The beeps are only there when the engine is running and it is ready to go. So I can set the infotainment without it beeping at me. And I save a little bit fuel with it. Maybe you can get the same: press start without pressing the brake. I don't know if it works, you can try it.
@@ragnvaldj.kjelseth9482 yes but it really doesn’t do very much… mostly helps lights seat heater and maybe charging laptop phone etc according to Björn
I wonder what exactly the message means at @14:22. “The outside air is cut off for a pleasant indoor environment”. Does that mean the front flaps are closed or?
This means cabin air recirculation, intakes are usually under the aft part of the hood. The front flaps are only used for heat exchangers. The Ioniq 5 has several automatic settings for recirculation, this was probably "activate based on external dust", and there are also settings to activate when you use windshield washer fluid and when going through tunnels.
@@nordlands8798 Ah right. Just wondering why it enabled the cabin air circulation on that exact moment. Probably something like dust yeah but then, why didn’t the car do that automatically when he drove behind the Diesel truck in the other (asmr) video. Björn had to manually enable it.
@@namanverdu Bad smell (gases) does not necessarily mean there is also enough particles (dust) to trigger the sensor. There is probably also a delay before it activates recirculation.
Hej Bjørn tak for dine webinar meget interesante, angående ingen vindues visker på bagrude siger forhandler, man skal bare tænde for el bagrude, så burde det være bedre udsyn, om det er sandt eller falsk vides ikke !!!! MVH Henrik P. Nielsen
In the annals of automotive journalism, the deadpan delivered hair dryer scene will be recorded as generation defining and one of the most brilliant demonstrations of an electric vehicle, ever.
I can't wait to see Bjorn's excel file with the quality of sleep for each car :)
*Very important factor!!!*
For me at least.
I always buy car according to few main factors like: flat big cargo space for sleeping, AWD, increased ground clearance, comfortable seats.
My previous car was Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV with outstanding sleeping possibilities.
Good flat space in Ioniq5 was crucial to purchase the car.
That is what I did :)
I almost died when you pulled out the hair dryer. :D
But did you die?
Heat gun would have been better. 😂
Warming up a day old pizza with a hair dryer: instant classic!
Just got an Ioniq5 last week and drove it 700 miles over the weekend. Excellent car.
I just wanted to watch part 1 again but watching part 2 is even better!
Thanks for the videos. Getting my Ionic 5 in a few days.
Some parts of the drive remind me of British Columbia, Sea to Sky road. Just majestic!!
Bjorn is one of the funniest 😂
You made another great video Bjorn. It is great to see Norway's Circle K stations really catering to EVs. I am hoping Circle K in America will eventually do the same.
My favorite EV reviewer, you actually talk about the underlying tech for EV. Whether the batteries have their own independent cooling system or share the same as the passengers in the car matter. One of the biggest causes of battery losing capacity is from running too hot while charging.
Hi Bjorn, I think you can set the start up volume for music in the settings. You can in the Kia Niro, you can also cancel the welcome and the goodbye music too.
He is fantastic, only little sleep, he still carry on, love his video's
Dishwasher cooked salmon finally has its worthy opponent
Love the hairdryer. 😂
You might not have the fastest roads but they have the best scenery and are much better than we have in the UK.
21:34 try using the window heater, i tried on my car and it actually keeps it decently dry even during light rain
Thanks for the awesome reviews of this car. I'm hoping to get one here in Australia this week when they come out.
Of course the totally botched it here. Constant errors from the ordering system and I'm stuck on the last step of trying to pay the deposit with "unexpected errors".
I did the pizza thing a few times back when i was broke af and didn't have a microwave or electric grill in my apartment 😂😂 awesome man!
Pizza mit dem Fön erwärmen, gefällt mir sehr gut. 👍😀
Am besten funktioniert es mit Fischstäbchenpizza
Hey Bjorn if your channel ever fails which it wont, rest assured there's all way a place on a radio for you as a banging dj...👍
hairdryed pizza 🤣 I really enjoy your videos.
Björn makes jokes but I have had this discussion with the wife. When we pick up our next car (EV) it will need some sort of V2L-setup. Why? Excursions with the (proper) air frier and an electrical grill. All of a sudden, taking a drive with the family to a lake in the forest is on like donkey kong. Really, this should very much become par for the course.
Bjorn, you're now officially the 'TECHNO_TECH_RODDER'
BAAAAAAM!!!!
Learned something new………..can reheat 🍕 using hair-dryer 👍😆
Great video, as ever. Really looking forward to taking my SE Ioniq 5 AWD for its first long road trip.
Good the lack of rear wiper got mentioned. it's certainly one of those negatives to mention.
You should see if you can add to your list of sponsors. Perhaps a suitable hairdryer brand and definitely the Norway Tourist Board for showing us all that beautiful country. I have my Ioniq 5 on order but will have to wait until Christmas :( Great Vids, looking forward to the child seat reviews and how wipeable the interior leather is for baby vomit !
Priceless i thought you were pulling out a heatgun 😅.
Bring your electric grill. Fold the pizza so that the dough is outside and the cheese inside. Put in in the grill. It’s not dry and no mess. Less space than a hairdryer anyway.
You're a monster. That sounds absolutely disgusting
(4:36) V2L capacity is 250V x 16A = 4,000 watts! That is as powerful as two portable Honda generators running at the same time! Brilliant!!!
I laughed out loud when you pulled out the "pizza heater" hahahahha
I like your content Bjorn fun but nerdy enough for geeks like me. I wondered if you could do a video about the condition of older EVs eg Early leaf Zoe i3 Tesla after many harsh Norwegian winters, it would be Interesting to see how the cars are holding up. I guess it would be fairer to find an example of each that have been used in similar ways and have similar ages/mileages… may be tricky, but I guess you have many Norwegian fans that might oblige? I just thought it would make some great content eg battery health, interior exterior and mechanical condition of the car etc
try an electric heating blanket next time ;)
Subaru does the radio always on too, but unfortunately don't have a setting to turn that off.
The problem with the insane auto music every time you get in the car is the same as the ambient lighting as I believe it relies in the User 1 or User 2 active choices that activates certain default actions like play radio or media, change seats position, activate heated seat, change ambient color etc….
As a suggestion, put in your spreadsheet a "total energy consumed during the trip" column
Great job
After the sofware update for preheating the battery and the addition of several Hyperchargers (even Ionity) on this route, this car deserves to be retested.
If on roof is solar panels then get energy of Sun only then when car is started. Bad because must some mode when car parking all day that solar panels chargcing automatlicy until batteries are full.
Bjørn MacGyver 😂😂👍👍
Great review! Just one question I want to know your experience of not having rear wiper. Do you have problem while driving in rain or moist mornings when condensation just stays on rear windows and with city driving you can’t make it go away?? And how it is in compare to Tesla model?
always love your videos. preparing for ordering a model 3 next year. cannot wait. btw do you know when you can do a range test and 1000km challenge for the Cupra Born yet?
The most important info for the Ioniq 5 is at 4:17 to 7:15, the rest is all fluff😂
I let the ads play all the way to help you out, so you can buy a decent pizza warmer :-D
The onboard charger is likely powering the heat pump with AC power for heating/cooling the battery while DC charging.
If you are charging in AC the car could direclty route with a relay the incoming AC supply to the outlet, doesn't make sense to convert AC -> DC -> AC. So it doesn't make sense to use the OBC to power the outlet. Also when charging in DC you dont'use the OBC for charging, so in DC you could use the OBC. In that way you have alway power in the outlet
Nice vid! This Hyundai ticks a lot of family car boxes and with the V2G & Solar would be great as a summer camper.
The solar is gimmicky. It provides no practical benefit. V2G on the other hand is game changing. Eventually they will enable use for it as a battery to power your home.
@@Remigius0815 Where though? I imagine somewhere like an island on the equator it could be ok.
@@Remigius0815 Was thinking the solar would be useful more for extending the life of the battery for V2L while camping rather than driving.
Hi Bjorn! I am planning to buy ioniq 5. In your opinion, which one is better to buy based on the battery consumption,,, a rear wheel drive or the 4 wheel drive? Thanks
i think air fryer will become perfect companion for ionic
I would really like to see the review of the Sion Motors car with its integrated solar panels in the roof and doors. Would great to see Björn vision on that.
can you put the back defroster on for clearing up the back windshield?
Bjørn you have said "ABC" Always Be Cleaning! :-D
Cold pizza is awesome
Pizza and all...excellent review
The music bug you're saying at the end reminds me when using UA-cam music without premium account
Every 10-15 mins it will pause and ask you to continue
What about the batteries in Ionic 5, are they safe?? I see that hunday had some problems with Kona and fire in the car.
Guys, Bjorn had drink too much -> set playback speed to 0.5 , jump to 00:18 :D and enjoy hearing our drunk hero ;) ...btw - Bjorn , congrats and I wish you and your family all the best in future
Hi Bjorn, since you are the specialist of sleeping in cars, which is best for that in mind once in a while? Ioniq5 or some other? Of course the car should be good otherwise too.
Looking for some not so expensive, but still roomy car..
What's your honest recommendation?
Thanks!
12:10 Mr. Bjron, will the power losses on the 400V load be caused by the necessary 600-700V conversion? The reason is that when you do not have to raise the voltage (for example in Ionity) there are no power losses, they are the same in the charger and in the OBD.
Is this gravity Gold as Color?
Did the aerodynamics actually keep the rear window clean in the rain?
I had a Audi Q5 that would play music each time the car was switched on. The solution was to press the on/off for a second instead of just a quick tap. quick = pause, long = off
Why do they not build a roof over the charging stations?
this car is epic
It sounds to me like the lane keeping is only for visual flight rules, when it is partly obscured, the logic does not like predicting what cannot be seen. So no instrument flight rules.
Had to use the rear window heater to clear the Ioniq rear window when covered in rain and dirt.
How long does it take, to charge from ~20% to 80%?
Hyundai advertises it would take 18 minutes with a 350-kW fast charge.
What is your real-world experience with the charging times?
The quick charge time is one of the main reasons why I’m interested in this vehicle.
But from watching your videos, it seems like the batteries get hot and that makes it take longer to charge. I don’t know much about all the electrical terms-and I don’t want to have to learn all that. I just want to plug-n-go. You’re very knowledgeable.
I couldn’t figure out why it seemed to often take longer to charge the IONIQ 5 when you were charging it.
It seems like hot batteries would be a constant variable, and that the charge would always take longer.
I was just surprised that the battery wasn’t charging as fast as it could or should.
I’m mainly curious
how fast the vehicle would take to charge if the vehicle had this kind of scenario:
had 3 people in the vehicle;
drove to 20% battery;
Charge up;
Drive to 20% range and charge again.
All in the same day.
I’m trying to figure out if the amount of passengers in the car-obviously reducing the range you could drive-if that would affect the battery from being charged fast.
When I see those charging speeds I don't feel so good with my ioniq EV (charging at 35kw)..But then again Vancouver barely has any DC charging (at least not in my area)...
Bjørn You need to test the new (update) BMW IX3 :) Hope they have fixed the battery issue. When it's cold. And the other issues you hit the last time you drove the "old" IX3. i am Buying the new IX3 if they have solved their battery problem.
Which problem is this? :) thx
@@DjTonioRoffo the batteries get cold fast. So it charges super slowly in the beginning
I have exactly the same experience with the autosteer in my 2020 Hyundai Tucson, it's almost unusable
Best car review ever, i want a car to heat my pizza
Bit of a bummer that the V2L doesn't work during charging. But OK, first make coffee with the Nespresso, then plug in the charger. Getting mine within a month!
@@stephenwensley I sure don't understand why they didn't partner with Nespresso to integrate a coffee maker in the car...
Noob question, but what is the app to see all the power consumption and how does it connect to the car? :)
It’s Carscanner, available on Android and iOS. You need to plug in an OBDII bluetooth adaptor to read the data and send to the phone.
Hi Bjorn.
What app are you using on your phone to show all info on vehicle. Now I am off for pizza while blow drying my hair. Cool blogs keep it going.
Is it just me or is the cell temp min/max difference higher than in other cars?
I really enjoyed your very informative video. I was really looking at this vehicle and I’m really impressed with its charging speed. 15-20 minutes is ideal for many of my stops and since I live in Florida I don’t know if preheating the battery would be an issue. I’m not so sure though. Either way, I’m very impressed. Oh and by the way, I watched both parts 1 and 2 from the beginning to the end. Lol.
Hey Bjørn, just picked up a ioniq 5 and seeing a bms soc of about 50% but displayed % is around 70%.. using same app as you, any idea what is going on? Not seen over 300km, conditions in oslo at the moment without any heat or A/C....
is there a heat pump on this particular car?
Standard
You should try an Air Fryer in a BEV!
"I have another idea. It is freaking stupid." :D
The infotainment software looks exactly like what's in my GV80. There's a setting in there to disable music resuming on startup. Unfortunately you can't disable the stupid idle stop/start function without pressing a button every time you get in the car... but that's an ICE car problem so nevermind.
Hi Bjorn. Are you able to test the new MG MARVEL R? Cheers!
ABC = Always Be Cooking! 😂😂
how much you spend on the charging? i think you should include that!
That information is not very relevant since prices vary between vendors and change over time
And he spends lots of ‘free’ miles when using Tesla.
Great video
Are those wheels caps or the actual rim
What does the battery inlet temp mean? Seems to be in the 50s while the battery is below 20 still.
The battery's thermal management system's heat exchange fluid temperature when it passes through the inlet to enter the battery pack is the inlet temperature. So when heating the battery, the inlet temperature will be higher than the battery temperature. When cooling the battery, it's the other way around.
How tall people can sleep comfortably in the back?
Can the leg support in the front seats support the legs while driving?
Wait what, solar power? Must be the special version?
Standard for the P45 jubilee edition, but are supposedly possible to add to config next year. Same with panoramic glass roof. I just wished the Solar Power glass would have been semi translucent...
Which app is used to read out battery status?
Pizza specialist 😄
Can you test the RWD Ioniq 5
Nice car, a few refinements will help, is this car half the price of a model Y? A friend paid $10,000 Canadian extra for self driving for a total of $92,000.00.
What a waste of money, sorry... I 5 for the win
Class. ☘️
Is it ONLY heat pump or does the car have additional “backup” electricalheater?
Does anyone know if it’s compressor with inverter or on/off.
How many kW of heat can the heat pump produce?
It has PTC.
@@bjornnyland ok, but I just learnt today that the difference was that the AWD version ioniq 5 had a heat pump and the other PTC. Could that be correct?
The car is beeping because you are not wearing the seat belt. Just put it on before starting the car.
This is a Kia/Hyundai thing.
Very silly feature. Many times you want to start the car to use infotainment before you set off to drive.
@@bjornnyland I agree, but you can set the infotainment with the seatbelt on. Or just treat it like a reminder.
I don't like the beeps, but I'm already used to putting on the seatbelt first, then start te car. Annoying at first, but the car gave me good habits.
I have also a non-electric car. When I don't press the clutch when pressing the start-button, only the infotainment will turn on without the beeps. The beeps are only there when the engine is running and it is ready to go. So I can set the infotainment without it beeping at me. And I save a little bit fuel with it.
Maybe you can get the same: press start without pressing the brake. I don't know if it works, you can try it.
i want to see your sleeping set up!
Bjorn, love how the Ioniq 5 let you sleep well? Does the solar roof top up the 12v battery?
That, and ads to the big battery pack as well... 😃
@@ragnvaldj.kjelseth9482 Cool, thanks
@@ragnvaldj.kjelseth9482 yes but it really doesn’t do very much… mostly helps lights seat heater and maybe charging laptop phone etc according to Björn
I wonder what exactly the message means at @14:22. “The outside air is cut off for a pleasant indoor environment”. Does that mean the front flaps are closed or?
Air circulation only turns on before tunnels
This means cabin air recirculation, intakes are usually under the aft part of the hood. The front flaps are only used for heat exchangers. The Ioniq 5 has several automatic settings for recirculation, this was probably "activate based on external dust", and there are also settings to activate when you use windshield washer fluid and when going through tunnels.
@@nordlands8798 Ah right. Just wondering why it enabled the cabin air circulation on that exact moment. Probably something like dust yeah but then, why didn’t the car do that automatically when he drove behind the Diesel truck in the other (asmr) video. Björn had to manually enable it.
@@namanverdu Bad smell (gases) does not necessarily mean there is also enough particles (dust) to trigger the sensor. There is probably also a delay before it activates recirculation.
Hej Bjørn tak for dine webinar meget interesante, angående ingen vindues visker på bagrude siger forhandler, man skal bare tænde for el bagrude, så burde det være bedre udsyn, om det er sandt eller falsk vides ikke !!!! MVH Henrik P. Nielsen